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25 Years On, The Lasting Cultural Impact Of The O.J. Simpson Trial

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25 Years On, The Lasting Cultural Impact Of The O.J. Simpson Trial

"This message comes from on points sponsor indeed. If you're hiring with indeed, you can post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions, then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard. Get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast. From NPR WB. You are Boston. I'm Meghna Tucker bardy. And this is on point June twelfth nineteen ninety four twenty five years ago today, Brentwood Los Angeles a grisly double-murder discovered there. The following morning body of thirty four year old Nicole Brown. Simpson was found after are attempting to clear the freeway, although you can see a car, right? They're going up right next to the Bronco or J Simpson is in this vehicle. One report says he has a gun pointed to his head says he will not be taken alive. Trail of blood is devastating proof of his guilt, if it doesn't fit, you must team Simpson. Not guilty of the time of motor in violence. Seven cheers. From the audience of Oprah Winfrey's daytime television show, watching the acquittal of OJ Simpson in real time. And they weren't the only ones in nation was transfixed. What that moment sparked over the next year and three months is seared into our nation's cultural memory. Now a quarter century later. The case still resonates, the Simpson trial was the perfect distillation of America at the time the power of celebrity the spectacle, and manipulation of media, the deep inequities of race and the corruption in law enforcement, and the question of what is Justice in America? But how much if anything about all of that has changed in the America of two thousand nineteen so this hour on point, the lasting cultural impact of the OJ Simpson trial? And you can join us what do you remember about the brutal double murder about the Bronco chase about the trial of OJ Simpson? What did it change? And what did we learn from it? Join us any. Time on point radio dot org, or on Twitter and Facebook at on point radio. We'll joining us I today from Los Angeles is Steve Futterman, a west coast correspondent for CBS news and CBS radio. He covered every aspect of OJ Simpson's criminal trial, his later civil trial, and then the two thousand seven two thousand eight Las Vegas robbery trial. Steve Futterman, welcome to on point. Great to be with you. I guess I have a PHD in J Simpson. You do. And that's why we have you here this hour, Steve. So first of all, tell us I mean take us back to your first memory of, of the trial, is when did you hear about the double murder? Why heard about the double murder being in Los Angeles. I heard about it. The next morning took place on Sunday night, June twelfth, but we didn't hear reports of the bodies being found until very early on the thirteenth. Now, I was someone being in the news business who was aware of the allegations of domestic violence against OJ Simpson. Nicole brown. Simpson had complained about him before there had been some police intervention, but never an arrest or anything, but there had been whispers in the southern California area so initially when I heard about this, my mind did think of initially OJ Simpson. But when his lawyer started speaking to us Howard Weitzman, who I knew from covering the DeLorean case, he said, well, OJ Simpson's in Chicago. That was technically correct. But with Howard Weitzman didn't tell us was the night before when the murders took place, OJ Simpson was in Los Angeles. Once those two things came together, I felt immediately that this is a man who is a potential suspect. Obviously, you can't say that he is a main suspect, but he did have a history of domestic violence involving the woman who had just been killed his ex-wife. So my mind did unlike most people immediately focus on OJ Simpson. Now, of course, much later on the nation witnessed the. Trial of OJ Simpson. And so, and even prior to that the Bronco chase on the freeways of Los Angeles, which will talk about in a second, but in the immediate aftermath of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson. And Robert Ron Goldman. I mean how quickly was that? What people were talking about and focused on in Los Angeles. I mean how much did that resonate? Okay. So instantly, I mean by the late that afternoon, the police held a news conference and they were being asked questions. Very vigorously is OJ Simpson assess Specht and the police were diverting. They were not answering that question, which, of course, makes a news reporter, ask it even more more directly. We knew immediately that the police were interested in him, O J Simpson did fly back immediately from Chicago. He was questioned by police, but there was a drip, drip, drip in the next forty eight hours, even twenty four hours that seem to point the possibility towards. OJ simpson. And this building to a crescendo the crescendo was Friday night, when the, the slow speed Bronco chase took place by Friday morning. I it appeared that the police were beginning to focus almost entirely on OJ Simpson on Friday. They did try to arrange for surrendering. And that's when the Bronco chase took place. He eventually surrendered early that evening. And of course, that is one of the moments that if you were alive twenty-five years ago, you remember so, well, all three networks, all the cable news networks were broadcasting that slow speed chase on live television. I mean that so many people saw that, that it is one of it's an iconic image in our mind. He said, if you were alive, all you need to hear the words. Here are the words white Bronco and it's in your mind twenty-five years later, or the term slow speed chase. What, what's what's a slow speed chase? That's the OJ Simpson case. Right. Well, so here is some sound from that moment, and you're going to hear OJ Simpson, interacting or speaking on the phone with homicide, LA homicide detective Tom Lang. So this is OJ Simpson on the highways of Los Angeles. Slow speed chase white Ford Bronco. Let me get to my house. Okay. We're gonna do that sweaty. I'll give you what. You could be my whole body, a Kate need to get them. Colder, we're going to do that. Just throw the gun out the window. We're not gonna buy gonna let you go up there. Just throw it out the window, please you scare and everybody OJ you there. Wow, we'll Steve Futterman. Let me ask you something. We're looking at this now twenty five years later, and we're going to talk about the role of the media played in, in this in the story in this moment for America. Later on during the trial. Lots of people said that or some critic said that it was OJ zone defense team Simpson's on defense team that brought race into the picture. But is that true? Or was race in the picture if not explicitly from the start it all it all depends, where you're coming from. I do think immediately. There were people from the minority communities who were saying this man needs to be treated fairly a, so there was initially a racial aspect of concern of fair treatment. Now when the case really got involving race is when the name of Mark Furman I got involved. Mark Furman was one of the detectives in Los Angeles, who conducted the initial investigation he is the man who found the bloody glove at OJ Simpson's residence and later on. We learned that Mark Furman had been involved in. Some activities and writing the screenplay where he used the N word number of times. And again, you have to remember what Johnny Cochran and the so-called dream team wanted to do their goal. I this doesn't sound necessarily complementary, but their goal is to defend their client, their goal is not a search for the truth. That's the prosecution's job. The defense team's job for the most part in there are some ethical issues involved here, but for the most part, a defense team is trying to do the best for their clients. They wanted to fi get get a jury define their clients not guilty. Yes, they did make the race issue a central part of the case. Raising the suspicions of the public, the jury it leaked, you know, it got involved in the news media. All the coverage had some aspects if not directly at least a hint of race during much of the trial book, actually because. But this is why this matters. Right. And why even twenty five years later, the, this moment is very important for America because it wasn't hard for Simpson's defense team to do this, because we're talking about the hell LA the LAPD. Right. And then he was just a couple of years ago before that. King Rodney King. And so this, I mean Los Angeles daily PD, the stage was set for this rending open of, of the of the problems with law law enforcement race in America that, don't you think absolutely one, morphed into the other you hear people who I wanna say, defend OJ Simpson, but they raised the issue of his eventual, Las Vegas trowel, which had nothing to do with the murders. It was armed robbery and kidnapping he was trying to recover memorabilia, which he claimed he owned, which he actually didn't. But he was very upset. He wanted it back. Many people said, well that that's payback that that trial was payback for the not guilty in Los Angeles. While it might have been. There was still strong evidence against him. But let's look back at the original trial in Los Angeles, the criminal trial. Many people said, well, that was payback because those officers who all of us all brutally beat Rodney King. I mean you were left stunned. Really, you can do that and be. Found not guilty. There are many people who felt the Simpson verdict was payback for the Rodney King verdict. Well, Stephen ask you. Put this through your own personal lens of your experience covering the arrest the trial. I mean, how did it change your view of, of your city or even of the country, did it? Well, I saw I guess I had more of a rose colored view of race in America. This brought out some of the divides, which unfortunately, exist, then still exist today, you know, in a perfect world in the ideal world. We are of different races, but we get together so well. And the divides are not that great. This one did expose some of the raw differences is far as experience as far as views of law enforcement between whites and blacks, and it wasn't a shock to me, but it was a bit more raw than I expected. And I obviously felt that there were some big problems in finding the officers not guilty in seamy valley. But I felt you separate. Cases. Many people felt there was a link to these two cases. And that's I think that's a prize me a bit. Well, we are talking about twenty five years after the night, that Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman were murdered which led to the trial of OJ Simpson. And what America learned from that moment, Steve Futterman, joins us today's west coast correspondent for CBS news. And let's listen to ABC's Ken kashiwahara with a recap of June seventeenth nineteen Ninety-four the day of that Ford, Bronco chase, when it became clear that Simpson was a suspect in the murder of his ex-wife after delaying their news conference. Los Angeles police officials finally appeared this afternoon with the announcement that shocked everyone the murder charges allege that Simpson stabbed Nicole Simpson. And Ronald Goldman with a knife on Sunday night, outside, MRs Simpson's house in the Brentwood section of Los Angeles. The charges carry with them allegations of special circumstances. Meaning that Simpson could face the death penalty if convicted well when we come back, we will talk about. The trial of OJ Simpson. This is on point. This podcast and following message sponsored by xfinity. Some things are hard to control like over caffeinated co workers other things are easy to control. Like you're in home wifi with xfinity, X fi, set WI fi curfew change your password, and create user profiles all with the x fi app. Another reason why xfinity is simple easy. Awesome go online. Call one eight hundred xfinity or visit a store to learn more restrictions apply. A language was about to die. Once it gets wiped out. That's it. We will have nothing in our language to pass our children and the people trying to save it, we're still learning how to speak it to hurry up time was working against, as we were like hundred years Lee, to, you know, it's code switch. Ula co lo a listen. And subscribe, this is on point. I Magnin Tucker bardy it was twenty five years ago today or this evening that Nicole Brown. Simpson and Ron Goldman were found brutally murdered in Los Angeles thereafter, followed the trial of OJ Simpson. So this hour on point, we're talking about how that trial changed America and how it resonates today, a quarter century later on our phone lines are are already lighting up. So the issue of the Simpson, case has not waned at all in America, but let's listen to some moments from the opening statements of Simpson's nineteen ninety-five murder trial where prosecutor Marcia Clark outlined evidence that the LA county district attorney's office, thought would seal Simpson's fate, the mere fact that we find flood, where there should be no blood in the defendant's car. House in the in the driveway and even on the socks in his very bedroom at the foot of his bed that trail of blood. From bundy. Through his own Ford Bronco an into his house in Rockingham is devastating proof of his guilt. Marcia clark. Then the attorney in Los Angeles County DA's office will. Here's Johnny Cochran on the defense team for OJ Simpson. In his opening statement Cicero said that he who violates his oath profanes the divinity of faith itself. And of course, we know that you will live up to your promises and be fair and keep an open mind and decide this case not on speculation. Not on conjecture not on your mind. But based upon the facts you, then as jurors are the conscience of this community your verdicts, set the standards what we should have in which it happened in this community. You have this rare opportunity. It seems to me be participants in this search for Justice and for truth, now the late Johnny Cochran in nineteen ninety five. Let's go to the phones gino's calling from Tampa, Florida. Gino, you're on the air. What do you remember from the OJ trial? Hi. I remember people being separate at my job on the white on one side. And all the blacks is on the other. And you know let's be let's be true for about it. It's not happening. It has to do with how America treats black from the time we step foot here to the day, when it comes to the court when you have twelve white men, judge a black man. That's not fair. That's never been fear. They've killed us and they continue to kill a sand sale phones look like guns. And, and that's the way they had to do with the LA police, or Mark Furman, or what is is true. It's not that we didn't believe that he didn't kill her. It's just that we wanted white people to see what they've been doing to us for years in the courtroom, killing us, and, and then coming in going to the corner and been set free, if they are caught they're seventy five eighty years old. The guy who kids up in, in Birmingham. And it contains the day. That'd be true for about it and stop saying that it's not about race. It's always about race when you go to court, and you judge a black man with twelve white men. Well, Gino, thank you so much for your call. So let's talk. More about how many people saw the OJ trial, not so much as a trial of Simpson. But a trial of the criminal Justice system itself, Kimberly Williams, Crenshaw joins us now. She's professor of law at Columbia law school, and the university of California, Los Angeles. She's author of the essay, colorblind dreams, and racial nightmares reconfiguring racism in the post civil rights era that appeared in the nineteen Ninety-seven book birth of nationhood, gays, script and spectacle, in the OJ, Simpson, case, professor Crenshaw, welcome to on point. Thanks for having me. So what was the meaning of the Simpson trial to you? Well, there are so many meanings, I think one meaning is that we were able to see that the divide about race in American society was one that was a first of all made more apparent win white people became very aware and disappointed about the outcome of the trial. The I think the, the diff- difference is reflected in what we just heard Steve earlier had said that race became apparent mostly when Firmin came forward were well for many people race was in the mix from the very beginning. It didn't take the evidence of Firmin's racism to make a lot of people be aware of the racial framing of, of the case. Even I mean, I don't know if people remember that time magazine cover that showed a darkened picture of OJ Simpson that. That came long before the trial started that made a real splash, so to speak in the racial discourse and people saying racism, going to play a role because we don't think of OJ as black now lot of people think that's a colorblind statement. But that is that is a racial statement, a it makes it clear that there is something called being thought of as black and number two OJ is going to be exempt from that. So we don't have to worry about race playing a role. It was all of these moments like this from the very beginning that made it clear that this was going to be a racial spectacle. Well, I mean and to the point you're just making the this is this trial was never about one thing. It was about everything at once and even, you know, OJ Simpson's own perception of himself as a black man in America came under interrogation that we were, we were all thinking. For example, here we have some tape this rubber lips site. Former sports writer for the New York Times. He recounted a story that highlighted Simpson's complex relationship with the black community and this was in ESPN documentary. Terrific one OJ made in America and lip site. Describes a story that Simpson told him about being at a teammates, wedding, and sitting at a table with several other African Americans and you overheard for white woman, the next day, it will say, look, here's Jay sitting with all those. And I remember in my ninety day saying to outage. Terrible for you know, screen, don't you understand? She knew I wasn't BRAC she saw me as OJ and really at that moment. I thought he was. Kimberly Crenshaw AKU can be Williams, Crenshaw respond to that. What does that make you think? Well, you know, let let's be clear about a couple of things. The fact that OJ may not have seen himself as black like other people didn't mean that effectively his status as the person next door that we're going to treat like a white person wasn't contingent. The reality is that OJ's crossover status was always contingent. It was contingent upon him. You know, not being a criminal defendant. It was contingent upon him. You know, not being accused of murdering someone so within the black community, there was clearly an awareness that OJ was a certain kind of black person. He wasn't a person might other athletes like Jim Brown who is deeply involved in civil rights. He wasn't the guy who was going to, you know, put up a black fist salute. Everybody was clear. Aware of that. But whether race would play a role in his prosecution didn't have much to do with how OJ thought about himself, or how white America thought about him prior to the allegation. So Steve Futterman of west coast. Correspondent for CBS news. Let me let me turn back to you, because this is making me think about and check me on this, because, you know, there was a terrific X series, the people vs OJ Simpson. And there's a scene in that series where during the trial. Jurors are brought to Simpson's house. Right. But beforehand, the defense team actually emptied out, most of belongings and replace them remodeling taking place there. Yes. With with artifacts that they believe would be more. Remedy would be more. I'm saying this in big air quotes appropriate for I in a African American household. Did that really happen? They actually did. I think they changed some of the paintings, they decided what paintings would. Look, better for the jurors this is when you have a defense team that is so trying to take care of every little cross every t dot every I you think about things like this, the image is so important did it change the jury's verdict in the trial. Probably not. But it did have a bit of an impact. It's very interesting. One of the jurors who went on that it was a weekend day, and was sort of a little craziness media circus, says everything involving OJ Simpson was, but one of the jurors who was on the jury at that time, wore a San Francisco forty Niners jacket that day during the tour of the house, he will he eventually was removed from the jury there were nothing escaped the defenses of you, they examined everything that was a brilliant job by the defense. And again, the defense's job. Was to find a way to get their client found not guilty. We sometimes say OJ was found innocent. He wasn't found innocent. He was found not guilty. The prosecution did not prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. So you can have people who feel OJ Simpson's guilty, but the verdict was also correct. We'll take another call here. Let's go to Tom who's calling from Manchester Connecticut. Tom, you're on the air. I'm African American background. I've never seen the case when the chase some was doing up and the basketball playoffs. But thing I wanted to point out dealing with the evidence was wide detective Vannatter have that blood in it is shorts eighteen eighteen hours and also in a witness saying were four men and UCLA sweatsuits, not in a murder and said some town. Hey, hey, hey, I think he may have been a German emigrant no show of he's the cease. But it seemed like his testimony went nowhere. And I think the time of the police department there was this rampart row. Please. I don't know from from that or not. Know did someone speak, -able X? So I would say it was some, some tension on their own police chief Pham gray at the time and I don't know. I guess it was on the second trial. They went, unfortunately, you know, I guess when against him civil case, brought in, but I guess, when the whites jeered at that five that was okay. But when blacks cheered at the end of the first trial that wasn't okay. Quick question here. Do you remember every trial? You've seen on TV with such detail. No, I guess it became like you said, say media circus was, you know, their case to build up against in with other prosecution. Lawyer miss Darden getting philosopher, Johnny Cochran. I guess it was it was about racial. Yeah, you're right and want to send any, but then you wonder about, you know, white lives worth more than a black life, especially when against them is a court case. So, yeah, I think it is very nuance. And I think when he talked to the technical terms about the blood and contaminated scene, you had to -ssume that it was, you know, his blood drops, but I don't know that was questionable. So I felt like it was came a media circus, when America never let African Americans forget about it. But yes. Interesting point, and I want to turn back to Kimberly Williams Crenshaw about that Tom. Thank you so much for your call. And professor Crenshaw ask Tom that question because that's incredible detail that he's remembering from the trial here. And what does that say to you about how a quarter century later, Tom, I don't know where he was at the time. But he's in Connecticut, now he's three thousand miles away, twenty five years later in that moment, still matter to him so much that he remembers even questions about blood, you know, drops of blood that were entered into evidence. Absolutely. Well, you know, I it was the longest trial that was ever televised. So it's not surprising people remember so many details, but I think it's also important that, that kind of detail is remembered in part, because I think it's a reaction to the claim that this was a jury verdict of just pure payback. It was a verdict that was just meant pretty much as revenge is, though, the jury did not take into account any of the evidence as though. The case that was constantly framed as there's a mountain of evidence was evidence that was completely without a fault. The reality is that a lot of people actually had some serious issues with the way the LA police department collected the evidence the way that it was presented berry shack, and Peter newfield, who were experts at pulling apart and showing the irregularities in how evidence was collected. All of that was sufficient for a jury to find reasonable doubt without the conversation about these jurors who were unqualified and just we're in love with OJ. And let me also remind people the jury was not an all black jury is much as people talk about this. They don't talk about the fact that it was a multi-racial jury. It was across gender jury. It's, it's almost as those the assumption is Pat Williams said, is that, that the other jurors were mugged or something this, this was a jury? Twelve people who came to a decision that the LA PD, did not do persuasive enough jobs, so that the prosecution could actually present a case leading to conviction, and that has been often, you know, appointed contention which is why think so many people actually go to the facts of the case. Right. We'll solit- listen to a moment from the trial, because the name Mark Furman has been mentioned several times in this conversation. LAPD detective Mark for a minute here, you're going to hear defense attorney, Gerald omen questioning firm in about his alleged mishandling of evidence detective Furman was the testimony that you gave it the preliminary hearing, in this case, completely truthful. I wished to assert my fifth amendment privilege. Have you ever falsified? A police report. I wished to cert- my fifth amendment privilege. Is it your intention to search your fifth amendment privilege with respect to all questions that I ask you? All sorts of problems with detective for a minute, including, of course, his admiration for the Third Reich. But, but Kimberly Williams, Crenshaw, lemme ask you ISD Futterman. This earlier definite really want hear from you on this. How much does it matter or how central is, what was the, the, the tenor of the city of Los Angeles in nineteen Ninety-four to this story and, and race relations and relationships between communities of color, and the LAPD? That's central tall. This isn't it. Yeah. Well, that, that's one of the reasons why I have issues with the idea that race was introduced with Firman. Ray set the set the stage it was racial drama from the very beginning. So yes, there had been the Rodney King beating remember it was videotaped people around the world. Saw this beating and for many people, it was a moment. Where they thought will finally we have true. Testimony, people can see it with their own. Is that this happens, and we'll get a conviction that didn't happen. So many in many ways that was just a one, you know, sort of evidentiary point. But there is also a fifteen year old black girl named Matata Harlan's, who was killed by a Korean shop owner. And she was affectively you know, put on probation that was also caught on tape. And then as was mentioned earlier, there was a rampart division story that led to the acquittal. Well, many people being let go who had been convicted based on precisely the kind of actions that the defense was accusing or suggesting that Mark Furman had done. Well, professor Kimberly Williams, Crenshaw, and Steve Futterman, standby here. Lots more to talk about on the twenty fifth anniversary of the double murder of Nicole Brown. Simpson and. Ron Goldman that led to the trial of OJ Simpson. This is on point. Hey, it's been an Ameri, and we're the hosts of endless threat the show featuring stories found on the website, read it but you don't have to be a Reddit or to enjoy the kinds of stories. We tell like a couple experimenting with non monogamy or board game that may have predicted the attacks on Pearl Harbor. Subscribe to endless threat on apple podcasts or wherever you listen. I'm Gregory Warner and this week on rough translation. We follow a rescue mission in real time after an Iraqi photo journalist goes missing on the front lines. We don't believe it. I don't believe it leaves his family and his friends to try to save him. When you said, who is this? Who are you? They respond. We are the Slavic state this week on rough translation. This is on point. Meghna shocker bardy. We're talking about the trial of OJ Simpson twenty-five years, after the double murder of Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman that happened twenty five years ago tonight in, let's listen to one of the more famous moments from the nineteen ninety-five Simpson trial. Here's defense attorney, Johnny Cochran put this knit cap on who Emma. I'm still Johnny Cochran with Nick cap in. Have you look at OJ Simpson over there, and he has a rather large hit, OJ Simpson in a knit cap from two blocks away is still OJ Simpson. It's notice guys. It's no disguise. It makes no sense. It doesn't fit, if it doesn't fit. You must acquit the late Johnny Cochran. He also used that line regarding a gloves. Let's go to Paul who's calling from west bend, Wisconsin? Paul you're on the air. Do you remember this moment? Is line if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. Hi. Yes, I do. And I was I remember this this episode cock, Mr. Cochran clearly, at advance degree in, in trial court TI tricks. But they handed him a surgical, latex gloves, very tight. Vaguely remember him putting it on didn't they handed him the leather glove. And you would have needed a team of horses to pull that let a glove over that latex surface because of the coefficient of friction and the prosecution never raised the question you take on take that tight latex gloves off, and that glove would have slipped on very easily with the, the texture and the service of human skin. We'll you. I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but I want to get Steve Futterman to respond to that, because he's the west coast. Correspondent for CBS news who was there. You were there in the courtroom, so, yes. So pick up on one Paul saying, well, I'll tell you very funny moment, a bit of an embarrassing moment. But it's okay I was actually in the press room when the glove experiment took place and a bunch of my colleagues are saying, oh, this is a mistake and I said to them, the prosecution those exactly what they're doing overtime rule hung on that one. Listen that glove being fair about it. OJ Simpson was not going to allow that love to fit him. No matter what the circumstances were that was a big mistake, by the prosecution then guess what mistakes by the prosecution? And there were a number of them, not necessarily visual ones like this, but strategic mistakes, by the prosecution led to Johnny Cochran being able to convince the jury that there wasn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the prosecution open many doors that Johnny Cochran took advantage of, and we can't forget that. So that, that love is obviously one of the iconic moments. And by the way, how many other cases can the general public quote a line from, if it doesn't fit, you must acquit it's the OJ Simpson Trump professor Crenshaw, let me ask you, a in, in our callers voice might be misinterpreting it, but I heard a little bit of, of derision when he said, you know, the Johnny Cochran was a master manipulator, but that isn't part part of a defense attorneys job. Was this. I, I mean, was it was the fact that this trial was televised on every television set across the nation and even around the world, we have to talk about the role that the media played in all of this, and quite frankly, I see Johnny Cochran as being a brilliant attorney in recognizing that the trial was not just going on inside the courtroom, but outside as well. Well, and, and I, I knew Johnny. Cochran. Personally, he was a masterful attorney and much of the criticism that we're hearing. I think comes from a failure to understand what attorneys actually do. And I think a failure to understand both sides. We're playing particular narrative, so we talked a little earlier about how the defense attorney sort of decorated, OJ Simpson's home when the jury visited, but we also need to realize is the very reason. The prosecution got in trouble with Mark Furman. Is that they were doing their own decorating? Mark Firmin's background was not unknown. What was unknown is that they had proof of it. What was unknown was that there was a tape, but this was a guy who basically tried to get disability based on his racism? He confessed it s part of his effort to say policing in Los Angeles had turned him basically, into someone who is incapable of following his his duty. So why would the prosecution have made taken a risk to read? I so much of the case on him. It was their way of playing the odds, it was their way of trying to present somebody as a completely valid, you know, sort of witness, without any questions around them. So they just played the game and they lost the gamble, both sides were doing it. They were trying to tell a story that affirmed their theory of the case, and the prosecution story just didn't hold water. Well, let's go now to Barbara who's calling from Macon, Georgia. Barbara you're on the air. Hi, everybody. I just wanted to say, I'm a African American woman, I always thought O J was guilty from the beginning. And I was not surprised when he was acquitted or found not guilty because it was proved to me that if you have the right amount of money to hire the right amount of legal help, you can do anything you want an America and get away. And that's just my comment. He just happened to be black, which really shopped probably white people more than than black people. If you have the money and you can just like Donald Trump, that you can just shoot people on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, Barbara. Thank you so much for your call. So this brings up another piece of tape that I wanna play this is Chris rock in nineteen ninety six and his take on the Simpson trial in Chris rock's comedy, special bring the pain. Cancelled. O'day prize. Race. O'day wasn't famous. It'd be in jail right now. Both. The bus. Chris rock in one thousand nine hundred six professor Crenshaw. Chris rock, right? Yeah. Well, he's, I think both the caller, and Chris rock a right to point out that celebrity fame and wealth had everything to do with OJ Simpson being able to afford the kind of defense that could take advantage of the mistakes that the prosecution made, so. Absolutely. I, I would say the problem is that all of those factors ended up being a raced by the media's dominant narrative that this was exclusively about racial payback. I'll tell you story when the verdict was prepared to come forward. There were television cameras trained across the United States basically, to capture the racial division in the response. There was even a camera in my home that was coming to watch. How was I going to respond? What people missed in. That was two things. Number one, there were millions of white people, particularly white men, who also thought that OJ Simpson's should. Would be acquitted and I mean more white men, white people than there are even black people in the United States that part of the story wasn't told and the other thing that isn't told us what I've called the white riot. The response of many disappointed, white people who were incredibly angry, who would say to me directly some of them liberals that they weren't going to stop supporting black causes stop supporting civil rights, stop sending money to Peter shack and, and berry, who were doing the innocence project and why because they namely black people shouldn't have been celebrating so that white riot that response. I think that's the thing that's still lives with us. And it really hasn't been talked about nearly as much as I think it should be Steve Futterman, your I haven't forgotten about USA jump in. What do you think about what professor Crenshaw saying about the lasting impacts here? Why do think there's a lesson impact? I do think if you did a proper public opinion poll today, I think the racial divides would be less than they were before. Again, I brought up before you can feel OJ Simpson was guilty of the murders and not guilty in the trial. And I think if you take an intellectual look at it, there was a mountain of evidence against him. The blood is amazingly incriminating evidence against him. But again, the prosecution open doors for Johnny Cochran and the defense team to take advantage of an advantage is not a negative word. That's what defense teams do. And Johnny Cochran is a was a master defense attorney, I covered him a number of times, was always impressed. I remember him when he was in, in the DA's office. That's how far back I go with Johnny Cochran. Always impressed with him. And he had a number of things that were presented to them. Hi, Marcia Clark by crystalline by Bill Hodgman. There were like be my guest. I'll take it and I'll go with it. He went with it and allowed him to get the jury to find him not guilty. I just want to take a moment to, to observe that there's lasting national and cultural impact from OJ Simpson's trial. There's also the lasting impact on the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. And in fact, today, Kim, Goldman the sister of Ron Goldman. She launched a podcast just today where she hopes to get answers to questions that have haunted her since she was twenty two and the day, her brother was murdered confronting this part of my life is something I still need to do. I want to confront the fear the grief, the anger the loss the shame. I want to ask questions that have never been answered not only of OJ Simpson. But if everyone involved because this crime this case, this trial has changed us forever. That's the beginning of Kim Goldman's new podcast that she launch just today. Let's sneak in one more call here. Let's go to David who's calling from hangar, Massachusetts? David you're on the air. Hi, one thing, I it was many aspects of this case, obviously. But one thing I have is the looney issues domestic violence at the Simpson. Also, please call the his wife beaten up the brew is, you know, they have it on tape field her calling into background. I mean that's an issue. Also in the nothing the only issue but it was the only one not address today. Well, David, thank you. Raise it go. Early on that I was aware of that. Simpson had domestic of violence allegations against him very early on. And that's why I wasn't surprised that he was a suspect on that first day. But, you know, it's interesting if OJ Simpson was around, if this case was around today, let's say twenty nineteen would have OJ Simpson's previous encounters with police involving allegations of domestic violence, would that have made him a power Rana today in the era of metoo, there may have been a closer look of OJ Simpson, even before, the murders took place, which would have presented them in a different light is all I'm saying it. It's very interesting that in those days, nineteen ninety s nineteen eighty s when these allegations took place when police were called to the house, when the, the windshield was broken on the on the automobile it got little publicity because that was something that we didn't focus on back then. Steve to put a point on it. The prosecution didn't even put a focus on it. In fact, they had to be lobbied by domestic violence advocates to make the long history of domestic violence, as central part of their argument and they never effectively did it. That's right. Sister'd initially denied that she was a victim of domestic violence. So it was I was surprised and, and, and affirm that you saw that because so many people didn't see it, including the prosecution. And you know, in the civil trial, they did bring him some of that stuff up where they had Simpson talking about the, the bruises on her face. He called them. Oh, I forget the term, he used a some skin condition or something tried to downplay it. And that's another thing when you talk about why was he found liable in the civil trial. Two reasons you have proof proof beyond a reasonable doubt in the criminal trial, which is a very high level of proof. And then in the civil trial just proprietor of the evidence. Also OJ Simpson had to testify. In the civil trial. And they had the pictures of him wearing the Bruno Mali shoes, which were, of course, part of those footprints they found at the murder scene. We could have this conversation literally for hours because there's so many, there's so many pulses of what America was, and is this issue of how did we talk about domestic violence? Then we did America want to see it self or white America. Wanna see itself at the as at the time as being, you know, approaching colorblind society. We, we haven't even got to professor Crenshaw you pointed out a little bit about Christopher Darden and the position he was put in, as you know, the prosecutor on the LA DA in the DA's office, Marcia Clark, even as a high profile of female prosecutor here, there is just so much so sue professor crunch. I've just got two minutes here left to go. I mean, how, how do we understand what the lasting impacts are of this moment in American history? Well, I still think it's a missed opportunity because so much of the reaction to the verdict focused on anger towards the jury. For the disappointing outcome rather than anger towards the institutions that made it possible. So why not focus more on the fact that domestic violence hadn't been taken seriously? Why not focus on the fact that hurts, it never withdrawn the contracts to OJ Simpson because of these allegations. Why not focus on the fact that the handling of the evidence and the justifications that were given for the police, you know, actions didn't make any sense. So I think if, if there had been more of a shift to focus on what's not working that caused this disappointment, rather than focusing on the cherry, we probably would be at a different point in talking about this. So it's one of the things I'm talking about. I'm looking back thirty years in looking at that case with a new contemporary, I and I want to bring some of those issues out in the coming months, I would love to have you back when, when, when, as we do that, Steve Futterman, we're coming full circle here. With you in the last thirty seconds last word goes to you. And when you look back at the trial now what do you think about its impact on America? While I think it was a moment in time where you really had the entire country transfixed by a couple of moments, the slow speed. Chase the trial the verdict at cetera. I think it's important, I think the professor sort of hinted at this, you have to understand why the jury came back with that verdict, especially if you disagree with that verdict. You have to understand why the jury came back with that verdict. If you understand that you'll go a long way to understanding the entire OJ Simpson case, we'll Steve Futterman, west coast. Correspondent for CBS news primarily for CBS radio. He covered every aspect of OJ Simpson's criminal trial, the later civil trial. And of course, the two thousand seven two thousand eight Las Vegas robbery trial, Steve Futterman. Thank you so much for joining us today. My pleasure ridge be with you, and Kimberly. Williams, Crenshaw professor at Columbia law school, and the university of California, Los Angeles, author of the essay, colorblind dreams, and racial. Nightmares that appeared in the nineteen Ninety-seven book birth of nationhood, gays script and spectacle, in the OJ Simpson case, she has a forthcoming book in the works called on intersection -ality essential writings, which comes out later this year, professor Crenshaw, it's been a great pleasure. Thank you so very much. Thank you for having me. I'm magnitude crowbar this is on point.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

"Nice meeting you guys E._S._P._N.. L._A.. Get back on track fast. Get rid of those unwanted inches visit freeze. The FAT DOT COM. Dr Grant Stevens his whole team out there. We'll get you thin this summer all right time for the coin flip. Let's see <hes> one side of the coin <hes> <hes> I'm at a loss to all right so dustin may is making his dodger debut all at you call this estimates making his dodger debut due tomorrow night his first major league pitching experience against the budget edgy heads he stays in the game long enough to get a decision in a winner loss tales. He comes up before the fifth and he's a no decision. I say he gives us five innings now. He's coming out early. I he could come out in this coin. She could come out early and still leave with the lead but you get the win yeah. I'll chat all right Mason twenty sixteen the band Metallica had a concert at U._S. Bank stadium in Minneapolis they realized after the concert that more than ten thousand tickets had been resold on the secondary market. The band obviously didn't see any of that Prophet right so a music consultant they work with Tony Decio help them come up with a way to get some of that money. Moving moving forward Yup decio realize the group initially price their tickets to low but management was nervous that high price tickets would make their fans mad according to one of the promoter sure so working with live nation they funneled future tickets to the secondary market without offering fans to buy at face value that way the band gets cut of the marked up price live nation told billboard that the company has facilitated the quiet transfer of concert tickets directly heckling into the hands of resellers throughout the years but only at the request of the artist who control where the tickets are sold. Here's my question. Is there anything wrong with that. The fans really here just finding another way to test the free market. They sell the original tickets to. Let's say stub right then if the prices go up or down they you get a cut of the new ticket price. It's a little devious but he doesn't that make it's like it's if you sell your tickets to stub hub. <hes> doesn't that inherently make tickets more expensive for your regular fans or less you don't know because stubhub sells them for whatever you know sometimes so you know you're in demand right which they're banking on here but you're taking a little bit of a risk might my question is is this. Is this in any way wrong or deceitful. Did you have a problem with I've got a problem with it. First of all I understand it's free market. Make whatever you can at the same time. There are die hard metallica Alica fans who can't necessarily pay second market price but it is the going rate. It is ninety-one striving it up but I think you want answer driving up their our own ticket price. I think you want to as aband- make your tickets affordable for everybody so I my thought would be you want to make some tickets available directly early to fan like what baseball teams sometimes. They'll have a couple of sections in the stadium. That will be a five dollar ticket. Yes yeah something like that because you don't WanNA price out your regular fans even if the free market price is the one that's being decided by consumers in other words like you and I are hot band we we're GONNA go to it's a hot band concert tomorrow night Mumford and sons okay so I don't know how you get your tickets. I assume you went through the secondary. Mark went through the initial market and there were still available here we bought him within thirty seconds. Okay concert sold out. We bought him within thirty seconds. Okay so you just got lucky correct right but but fans have really wanted to go would have have to go to the secondary market. Yes you would have paid that right hi. I don't know what the rate when you really wanted to see the man right you would have paid whatever the I've got means right era diehard Mumford and sons fan and you don't have money to buy tickets on the secondary market you could get priced out of that concert and those are the people and some of those fans are the ones that have made the band successful all those years so I would want Sato is there is there. I think what you're describing. There's a middle ground here between me and you. If I'm okay with this yeah you you would be okay with it. As long as all of the tickets didn't get treated this way absolutely right. Some of the tickets were made available for the diehards. Yes they wanted to work a little harder. GotTa get them absolutely one hundred percent enough fouls tack all right Carey Jernigan a thirty seven year old lawyer local school board president was checking out at the <hes> payless shoe store when our older daughter asked her if they could buy a pair of avenger shoes for a fellow student who shoes were too small for him she she told a news outlet of course I always tell my kids if you ask them what they want to be when they grow up they say be kind so I don't care what they do. In life as long as they are kind and good people Jernigan Dan <hes> bought out the entire store roughly eleven hundred pairs of shoes for a and local kids local schools and some adults who are need what is in your life the most spur of the moment helpful Honda magnanimous signed moment that you've ever given all right so lynn years ago what your nine eleven vigne was two thousand one so in two thousand one I was one of my gigs was working as the sideline reporter for U._C._l._a.. Football right and we had a pretty good broadcast that brought in a lot of money I I was paid a pretty good rate that year and when nine eleven happened Remember College football cancelled all their games they didn't and I we you and I were both working at Fox sports radio. Yes we were and we got an email from somebody that said any donations that you guys wanted. There was a cameraman at Fox so I did. They know it had never met that was on one of the flights but I'm friends with so many cameramen yeah. I always say that if you're in T._v.. News you're only as good you know I get to work with the Great Glenn Shamata for all those years and D._N._A.. Allah and riding hunting all this. I said you know take care of those guys. It's GONNA come back to bite you. They're the ones that make you look good so I always have a soft spot for camera PPM <hes>. I don't know why did it but <HES> I took my. I took my game two games for them before and one that was it's coming up that week and Fox paternity meal said if you donate to this guy's fund will double it right say took. All the money from those three Games was tony tonight. Blocks Fund had them double. It and I've never met that guy don't know who he is a went to his family but I just I was overwhelmed by nine eleven and I felt felt like I had to do something for somebody Yup so that's what popped into my head for me. It was after Hurricane Katrina. I met these people I flew who <hes> three families <hes> from New Orleans to Los Angeles. Their homes were in ruins <hes> because of the hurricane flew him out here. They lost all their clothes took him to buy new clothes. Put them up at a local hotel at one point. I remember I mentioned to you that I had a friend who owned a restaurant Iran and the mom in this in this family was a sous chef. Yes and we helped her. Get A get. A couple of shifts over the restaurant Inter Inter who the three family stayed in in southern California Nya one one family went back to New Orleans and rebuilt their lives. That was a really rewarding experience. I think out of that also came. Do you remember we you and I paid paid for a school bus and Scientology Center right because they were all staying there and we took like forty kids to a dodger game on this bus yes and we paid for all of it because they were just they just been displaced. They were up there. I think this these the families you're sponsoring were part of this Yup and the thing that jumped out at me about about those kids who are how many of them we asked. When are you going back and the overwhelming majority said we're not yeah? We're just never going back couldn't go back to start new lives heroes. It was <hes> just a <hes> but it was it was really rewarding. Towels are you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles Their Mace. There is a viral video going around the Internet of a married couple arguing on a plane. Yes the plane on the tarmac in Miami and the wife is F- bombing the husband loud allowed accusing him of looking at other women. She says the F. Word so many times that the flight attendants come over and demand that she stop Yep okay instead she continues yelling at him then hits him over the head with a laptop computer g now they were sitting in the woman was on the window seat. Yeah the man who she was screaming at was in the middle seat and there was another guy. I assume who didn't know oh them in the aisle seat now according to her husband the couple was traveling back from Ecuador to L._A.. He didn't provide police with an official statement and said he didn't want to press charges along with her husband. The flight attendant who got hit with the computer also nor the passengers who were hit by the bouncing laptop decided added to P- to prepare statements. They said we're not going to do anything about it and authorities say quote. If there's no statement we're not able to move forward with the case right <hes>. Let's say you are the person in that aisle seat. The woman on the window seat is F- bombing and there's little kids at my farm in the husband. He's trying did not pay any attention to her. She takes out a laptop starts beating on him. You're in the aisle seat. How do you play what is the proper protocol there? Do you help defend the guy to get up and get outside has said pat point. I go to the CAN right I I. I just go to the canned Gregoire run away. You Get out get out. Give the Guy Escape route. I run away seen this with the Air Marshal handle it Jeff. You've seeing this video just Google this woman plane Miami Miami of course it's my okay well. They're flying. They were there was a stop or they're flying from echo and by the way the flight attendants when she starts lacking him the laptop the flight attendants are like okay. You're out of here. The pilot comes down says you're being charged charged with assault. She says fine whatever yeah and she goes. I'm going back to get my purse yeah. She grabs a person storms off the plane and the whole time screaming at this guy like this the only safe places the camp unfair like I I might try and help the guy out a little I would get up and give it away to get out but at some point when when any person man or woman starts whacking people on top of the heavy laptop. Don't you have to get the laptop and I'm not going to be the hero there. I'm going to he had done something that deserved. He was out of there. She goes. She was mad at at this particular case of looking. There was apparently another talkers. Are you watching it. Are you watching. Are you listening to know you're on the air. Not Take your finger off the microphone button and listened to because that's what will make its own country because every other word of mouth is if you F- in ever F and look and what other person in the I'll do. He'll you see it in the video. He does nothing he just kind of stays is there and then slithers. That's the smart play and let's the the flight attendants handle. S.'s what they're paid for. This is where you're paid for. I know a a Lotta flight attendant paid for this law there for our safety and security a lot of the flight attendants. I know listen to the show all our LAKER flight attendants. If you guys ever see some woman whacking a guy don't do anything get a guy to go in there and tackle the lap Cottam. Oh smack them with the laptop. Oh it's it's bad it's Greg. I didn't under- sell this. Did I not at all good and she never chasing him down the aisle. It gets up and gets out she casing him. I will beat your what it's bad. Wow fouls tack. A new study in Italy has found that a steady diet of insects provides an excellent source of protein fiber and vitamins of the edible insects analyzed grasshopper hopper's silkworms crickets displayed the highest level of antioxidants five times more than fresh squeezed orange juice. If this is real. Would you ever take an insect based supplement <hes> as part of your health regimen I'm out. I don't want to insects I. This is one of those now I'm out. I have no interest no. They're good for you now. They sell these in Seattle Mariners Games. They fry them in the Damon diamondbacks Simpson. I'm out. I know you've never eaten him out. I don't want insects. Grasshoppers can be really good you have you have not I have to and do I when today they're not available. You know you could go to whole public. Don't think whole foods sells grass. I mean say oh I did in Central America well but at that you know when in Rome kind of thing I did in Central America I did in Africa. They're okay like when I lived in Louisiana I the frog legs Dojo frog legs. Are they're good. They're French yeah yeah but that's fancy insects. No you're really you're an-and this totally in win on eating insects Salaam. I don't want to eat insects but are these supplements though these are they do you can do it either way admitted healthy him as a pill or you can eat them whole. If it's something that's going to help my body and it's going to help me feel good shorts supplement. I'm all I'm okay rash ride hoppers Craig not eating anything Herreid first of all fried anything and nothing and why is that he no even hopper no fried anything all right more faster. I can two minutes Mason Ireland E._S._p._N.. L._A. Fasttrack Rolling on Ireland to attack right fantasy football season's coming up in in our league mace the Hollywood football league. You have the first pick up. You were so bad last last year. That really wasn't click purpose <hes> if you go to E._S._p._N.. Dot Com there is no debate over who the best quarterback is who it is Patrick mom had rooms easy or or even who the best running back will be this year. You know who that is in agreement. I assume he's going to put up the most points <hes> how it's either Zeqir Levian bell neither saquon Barkley so is Olympic but I was surprised at who the top rank wide receiver is and if you would've given me three guesses I wouldn't have got it you guys guest Gregg Jay and Steve and this is the consensus number one side receive like Matthew Berry Field Field Yates all these great. Who Do you think it is take a guess well? I don't WanNa say Michael Thomas now. <hes> I'm going to go off the board. I guess we'll Yep. You're saying you wouldn't even three guests on the for three guests. Not was on. I can't go. I'm GONNA say Marcus Goodwin which is totally random because I want to go random dad do you went to random not did Thomas Micheal. Thomas is not <hes> I will go deandre hopkins all right. That's the best guess of the three he's he's second. Deandra Hopkins is the second most coveted receiver followed by another swing obvious okay followed by Michael Thomas Julio Jones Yep and Tyreek re kill but number one was no debate in this guy. I didn't even know this. He caught one hundred eleven passes for fourteen hundred yards and thirteen thirteen touchdowns slash. I'll go no idea what about Juju no good guests though not Odell it's not it's not Antonio Antonio Brown right up yeah. It's Davante Adams of the packers a hundred nine eleven passes for fourteen hundred yards and thirteen touchdowns the only wide receiver that and more touch last year was A._B.. Wow Antonio Brown but isn't that weird how he flew into the radar. The packers had an you think about it makes it and he's the consensus pig Aaron Rodgers GonNa throw to somebody because he doesn't have remember doesn't have Randall Cobb anymore. Doesn't have you know Komo Nelson. Nobody liked that so it's a good quarterback yup on a team with a passing offense. They don't really have a dominant running back and he's clearly the number one target so it all makes accents but last year remember the the packers had a bat I think they went three and five in the last eight games. Say didn't make the playoffs and nobody noticed but according to the E._S._p._N.. Japan football experts Davante Adams. If you're looking to go receiver with your first pick he's the guy I've decided who my first pick is. I can say because has no one can patrick mahomes see I had him last year. It's superfund yeah. I don't blame me for doing it a matter of fact like even when I was written for the Rams on Monday night I football. Do you remember how many touchdown passes Mahomes at five or six six yeah jared Goff had four and no interceptions Yup Patrick Mahomes had six touchdowns and four interceptions so he he throws all the time and now remember would know Kareem Hunt he's going to you know they don't have necessarily like a featured running back out. He's going to throw it. He'll lead the league in touchdowns. It's a great pet. He threw fifty last year. Going quarterback Right but it rutgers possibly if you want mahomes he has to take him with this verse pick because he doesn't pick again until twenty five all the running back to actually makes you pick it twenty four. It's a snake draft right so you have the first pick and the twenty fourth favorable you want mahomes will Matthew Berry would agree matthew comes on. He'll tell them the same thing they'll say yeah or he'll say it's Adams I would I would go to here's here's what I would tell you. If you pass on Mahomes you don't get them because someone in those first twenty three picks. We'll take them with their first or second round. Pick going correct. I because you have the second you have last second round pick. They've got Patrick. mahomes ranked as the forty seventh best. Pick only your goal because you're going one only because does but every year in our league somebody in the first round takes quarterback yeah every year. I know it's <hes> it's only because there there's so many other good quarter rice but if my home source sixty sixty touchdowns this year. Would you be surprised no not at all no but you get fifty point. It takes one to get one point. You need fifty yards plus. You only get four points perk this all correct. This all makes perfect sense but again. It's your team and if you want mom's you have you have Scott they've got saquon ones Zeke to Kamara three McCaffrey for David Johnson Five Levin Never Taking Zeke and I'm picking tenth. I'm not taking Zeke. If he's there yeah me outbid be out till the tenth week fast track all right. Let's see strange scene at a small San Francisco Comedy Club a guy. It was an attack by an audience member who was told to stop talking so the comedian capital pill crow was on stage at an open mic <hes> uh somebody was talking Pill Crow said shut up on trying to do my act. The audience member attacked him and the audience members attacked the comedian Indian attacked. The comedian show went the other way. Where is the most egregious place to not talk? Have you ever confronted somebody for talking where they shouldn't be talking and what were the repercussions. I'm not I'm not normally ash guy. I'm not you know I'm a big Guy <hes> but right I remember somebody was I'm so sh I was at a wedding and one of the either the bride of the groom is giving their vows. Somebody wouldn't shut up yeah. That's so we couldn't hear it. That's wrong and I think that's the last time I actually Shush Church. them bad plays where it happens. A lot believe it or not is impressed boxes for I like I. I remember one time. Remember the late Great Tom Kelly yeah yeah okay so curt sandoval and I are at a U._S.. Football game yeah all all right and we assigned seats Tim tessalone the assigned seats to everybody so I'm sitting in the K._C._B._S. seat Yup Kurt sitting in the K._A._B._C. seat and that seats reserved for Tom Kelly yeah and Tom Comes and sits down next to a big talker and he starts telling old stories stories about John McKay and about <hes> Anthony Davis and and you know that era had Hayden and these these are these stories are great and and about halfway through the first quarter tessalone gets out of his seat you sit in the front row down by the glass gets out of Ireland career and he goes he pulls me back to the site he goes. You are killing me man. Dan and I went tim. What are you talking about? He goes he goes these stories. Tom Kelly stories. This is a working environment. You gotta get them to stop. Go Tommy's Ta Timmy's Tom Kelly. I haven't said two words he goes. I know but you're encouraging it. Yeah he goes state. He was stay back here for ten minutes. It's so he doesn't have any re- I call sandoval over I go. Hey Man Tim's mad at us because he doesn't want Tom tell us anymore and finally called aw Tim comes. Hey Tom Great to see like press boxes our biggest fan by the way I could have listened to. Tom Talk all great store. No the biggest offender is do you know Steve Futterman C._B._S.. I worked the Olympics with he will not shut up. You you see him at a press he will not shut up and I sat next to him at at during the Laker game. Oh Man that guy just choose your ear off. Steve Steve Futterman from C._B._S.. I'm a big sky especially at the movies I in fact when I was seeing once upon a time in Hollywood there. There's a couple talking through the entire thing I remember that billboard. I remember that movie you said something to him. I said quiet down over there regear. Are they just trying to enjoy a movie yeah. It was a great movie experience. I don't want somebody talking through what's going to happen is some blog. Some read. It blog is going to say that a whole other ways the other way around me out in fact they just put in the Alamo Draft House here in downtown L._A.. And and that's one of the rules is they will object you immediately if you're talking during the movie or if you use your cell phone during a movie if it even lights up they will judge you and good okay so what would you do. You're watching a movie good movie. You're really into it and like three rows in front of some harder on you and older lady yep gets a call and she answers it and starts talking to conversation normal voice. What would you do ma'am leave the theater which she just keeps going? I would go telling US her. Get Her who worked in the movie theater with the ushered absolutely sure Jackson Wow jacker Jack Kennedy Yeah Jack Come Out of the Jack Dangerous all right all right got a game to end one quick story. Yes Oh Laurence Fishburne was doing I think Othello on Broadway right and somebody's phone rang and he broke character walked out to the edge of the stage and be rated that person person talking about their lack of respect for the theater. That's a that is a really bad place for your cell phone to go out and play. They wouldn't even answer. Tell turn that Aww Game Greg you could play Jay. You could play when no googling when N._F._l.. Training camps open this week they featured a total of nine of the top twenty five passers in N._F._l.. History nine of the top twenty five are playing on active rosters rosters today the guys with the most passing yards all time. Let's see if you guys can get all nine three strikes and you're out go three of them should be pretty easy right. It should be drew brees number one seventy four thousand years. What did you say J.? River Philip rivers number eight very good. Tom Brady number therefore very good. Wait a minute. Don't say that Aaron Rodgers what why would you. Why would you say all time passing yardage right now? You have one four Oren eight okay. Let's go in and Roger Aaron Rodgers number seventeen very good. Thanks for the faith. There's no four they're five more more left. Let's talk about it though but Matt Ryan totally possible. It's been around for a little bit now. Matt Ryan has been around for timely allies. Definitely GonNa be one of those yeah. Let's Go Eli number seven all-time very good. You're five for five. I'm sure that a guys like Stafford and Ryan or going to be a good call Stafford number twenty one. No that's good you got. It got one five twenty five all right. Matt Stafford is on the list your six percents that have been around for a while. There's eight total right nine time. There are three more three so the the ones that were missing are going to tell you what you have. You have breeze Brady. Eli Rivers Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford Three more love. I wonder if Russell Wilson is on that list no okay. Let's try it. That's your first Mitt Russell. Wilson on the list to strikes left okay now. I think we may be looking at Matt Ryan. Yes what about big band. Oh yeah no very good number six all time. He was the highest remaining remaining guy that you had snag down to two. You're down to your missing number twelve. Let's and number twenty two. Let's cut people out so guys like Derek Carr not going to be there. Cam Newton is not gonNA be there. What about interlock will not be there about <hes> Kirk cousins no? I don't think so I think we should try Matt Ryan Matt Ryan Matt Matt Ryan Number Twelve Time Wow yeah you just don't believe in that. Ryan has more passing yards than drew bledsoe Dan and fouts Joe Montana Johnny Nitis Donovan mcnabb all right so you're only missing one and you have to strikes have been around okay so it's not like guys is like deck. It's not not I'm trying to think of other people that <hes> I'm just going through the League's jets I mean Ryan. Fitzpatrick is around <hes> <hes> now what about Joe flacco Oh excellent call yes Joe FLACCO DOT it Joe Flacco Joe Twenty any to all time you guys only had one strike yeah cousins no was Russell Wilson know that here they are again breeze Brady Big Ben. Eli Rivers is Matt Ryan Rogers Stafford Flacco Nine of the top twenty five all time Gannon's changed all right coming up. I've got a game and then we get your movie. Pass game. GonNa play the game between you and George. It's a game oh history voice voice good so we'll do it. During the category versus George I so greg open the phones and coming up next we'll give away. Is this our last four pack of Mason movie night. That's the last more seats in the theater. Yep All right. Come news movie. Do not bring your cell phone. This is no don't miss you. I will shoo fast and furious furious Hobson Shaw starring dwayne Johnson Jason Statham Idris Elba. Oh Regal Cinemas Garden Grove as part of O._C.. Week come in Monday night eight seven seven seven to ten E._S._p._N.. John has come up with the dumb game for today because I have struck out on games pretty relentlessly this week Mason Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A.. Oh see week coming for you Monday and we got the final four pack of tickets to join me for Mason movie night. It's fast and furious his Hobson Shaw at the Regal cinemas in Garden Grove John. You have come up with the game last four tickets and the whole theater last year all right so you get to see the movie for free on Monday night with Mason in Orange County Tito in Pasadena is first step now Tito you tried to win earlier in the week right. You're okay so try. This is simply a game of true or false okay about the movie Hobson Shaw and the actors who are in it so all you gotTa do is tell me a true or false you get these seven questions. You're going okay okay number. One Jason Stay thumbs. Dad Berry was say street merchant and a lounge singer true or false true. It is true Vanessa Kirby who is most famous for playing Princess Margaret in the crowd. She's great yeah grew up in Wimbledon England in the shadow of the great great tennis tournament true or false false am sorry she did wow Tedo Miguel and Irvine Miguel. Oh you're right there. You're in Orange County. You're in Irvine right there okay so here he owner. He got okay. Jason Stadiums Dad Berry was a street merchant and a lounge singer true true or false Vanessa Kirby grew up in Wimbledon true or false sure okay before he was an actor actor interests. Elba worked in nightclubs under the Nickname D._J.. Big drills true or false D._J.. On what they should route three go miguel. It'd Coachella this year right. You're halfway there is he's a Gonzales who's in the movie is one of Hollywood's most eligible bachelorettes and has been linked to among others Klay Thompson true or false. Oh I'm sorry no <music> play so close so close Kevin in Chino Kevin Are you there. I'm here Okay Kevin Jason. TATUM'S DAD was a street merchant allowed shing or true or false Vanessa. Kirby grew up in Wimbledon true or false true Idris. Elba was a Deejay E._J.. D._J.. Big drills true or false true I easily Gonzalez's is eligible bachelorette and has been linked to Klay Thompson true or false true. Jason Statham was a diver on the British national diving team and finished twelfth at the World Championships Championships in one thousand nine hundred ninety two true or false true true is correct to more Kevin now that was a lot the detail that had to be true. Helen Mirren won an Oscar for playing Queen Elizabeth and the queen making her one of seventeen actors to win the award for for playing a real person who is still alive true or false true true and if you get this win the tickets so listen closely Kevin Okay closely dwayne Johnson the Rock received a full scholarship to play football ball at Florida state then played three years in the Canadian football league before becoming a pro wrestler true or false Senator University he went to the you you got to Miami. I try to trip up Kevin and you're rating Johnson is in excellent job Kevin so we will see you money. Hang on Monday night. Man Greg's going to get your info good job Kevin all right thanks I didn't. I know if he can you even when I was like oh I know football. The the most surprising thing about that was Jason Statham was edyta Reina British national not yeah that's Craz- finished twelfth at the world championships yeah apparently he got hooked up at a young age with Guy Ritchie the guy who married Madonna though yeah and he was impressed with them and actually early like said can you play street merchant and he goes my dad was a street merchant and he did it and he put him in was lock stock and two smoking barrels. That's exactly right yeah. Put Him in that movie. Dini was often running excellent all right so we are now full House for Mason movie night and I'm. I'm excited for that Monday night at the Regal cinemas in Garden Grove drove. I think this is our third Mesa movie night. We did Captain Marvel. We did avengers endgame now. We're doing Hobson Shaw. I saw a preview for Hobson shot and it looks looks yeah. It looks really good. <hes> what do I always say hot. Women blowing stuff up it has both. When are you going to see once time a once upon a time in Holland? That is a great question so I was told you I was scheduled to seat Saturday Yup. Lisa lolly gagged at some tennis tournament and didn't get home in time so I have plans tomorrow night Yup. I have gone to the dodgers game Saturday night and then Sunday I have I've got to be down in Orange County Tony and then and then every night next week were down in Orange County. That's right so I don't the answer is I don't know I but I don't think I can go another week because they tried to go a whole week without without learning anything about it and it's almost impossible I would argue that it may be the greatest movie ever made about Los Angeles. Okay let me a couple of things that are in the running for that all right. Did you ever see L. A. Confidential L._A.. com vessels on my pastor and I'm surprised you chinatown yeah made that admission because Chinatown about Los Angeles right yes it. The Alex Karras is one of the team but <hes> it's. It's got great villains. Have you ever seen against all produced by my friend Stuart Benjamin Yeah it's really good so that's an intense and advocated by Taylor Hack for Rachel Ward in her prime. Yes yes yeah inner absolute prime and the other one <hes> to live and die in L._A.. Is a great one William Peterson the John Panko against traffic chase scene on the freeway driving the wrong way on the freeway to absolutely fantastic <hes> but you'll you'll see once upon a time in in Hollywood fantastic especially for the period detail it is great. It is great <hes> all right more Mason in Ireland coming up next and by the way mystery voice will be Ireland versus Sodano head to head today Sodano's here right yeah. He'll be in studio so it'll be Ireland versus Sodano auto in mystery voice much worthier challenger Than Greg bribing winning. You beat me. No you lost on the last one last time but you were very competitive. You thought thought you were or did you win. I thought you were going to get killed and you were very respell. I did that one. I one on one the last one all right so we'll see how he's killed. Did you in the Will Ferrell game right yeah three one yeah it was a skunk. I Mason and Ireland E._S._p._N.. L._A.. So this is interesting Bob Nightingale. There were a record thirty trades at the trade deadline. Yesterday I can expand on it. They're an all time high. Seventy six trades were made between June first and July thirty first <hes> the average number was just I have thirty nine. There were seventy six hundred fourteen players have been all stars were among those traded in two thousand nineteen yeah so maybe the fact that there was not a rush of trades yesterday overshadowed the fact that I guess a lot of teams Indian by either way you look at the dodgers starting lineup tonight <hes> they have both tyler white who they acquired <hes> in a small trade last week and Christian Negra AH I keep calling that Kristopher Negron who said homers and back to back Games is in the lineup too so although not gigantic names guys that have stepped right into the starting lineup the dodgers we forgot a great L._A.. Movie Okay thank you shabby for tweeting this in swingers swaying hers is a great Elia Yeah A and made for like a million bucks and away stories and other one yeah see Martin as the weather leaves the weekend. He goes like free tape the weather for three days it never rains has my favorite scene in that is Steve. Martin says he's going over to somebody's house and he gets in his car and drives three houses down to go to their house car which is very l._a.. Yeah our Buddy Kevin re says how about double indemnity. I haven't seen it. No I haven't either enemy Stewart. Will Yeah <hes> all right so here's a tweet that I'm having trouble even Reggie Silva sends us this if the dodgers do not win the world series this season to you fire Dave Roberts. Oh Oh come on Dave Roberts has been the manager for three years. He has three division titles in two World Series Really. Do you fire boots. A guy that makes three Ricans Wins Three Consecutive National League pennants and your answer is fired day from now. That's point players got to play at some point. It does come down to players performing at the highest level <hes> and last year the dodgers were just completely outmatched by Boston Austin the year before it came down to game seven on Game Day game seven. We thought they were going to line. I thought for sure they were going to win. That's the most you've ever paid for ticket right. Whatever you paid for that even remember member by either that or super bowl super bowl is crazy expensive? Yeah <hes> Zylstra Super Bowl. Get all the tickets all right so you guys greg getting on this. Tell me if this is something or nothing pulp fiction as a essential movie absolutely terrible. You're wrong with you. What is wrong with you? Somebody pointed on. I'm trying to find it so I can give it's our mean Sham. Marana says all the astros good starters all these big three ver- Lander Garrett Cole and now grinky are right handed. Is that something or nothing for the dodgers over pretty good left handed hitting lineup very good left hand. I mean you'd rather them frankly leap face a right hander than elaborate and Greg in that scenario in those three games. What do you do with Jock Jack Petersen Jospin in a very good season player though comes off the bench in the late now he's been? He's been like one of your best. Place is a righty. No no start them. He's not GonNa let you lead them on Vertigo. Yeah you do go and center absolutely no. I had a bench pollock. Yes no policemen really Verduga comes off the bench for Jock in left. You really would do go off the bench absolutely see I'd stack the left I would much rather I'd bring pollock and later in the game <music> by the way you put you put John Paul concentre cody and right. That's an excellent defensive. Outfit is a very very good outfield there but no yeah you're you start you lead off Jack Petersen especially in a world series like that Yep Jack Tober Israel. Wait a minute you leaving U._k.. Do you lead jock off. If you're playing Chris Taylor at second who's also been a really good postseason player. Are you put Muncie. No no no money's GonNa play I right now. So what does the hailers gonNA play second right. where'd potatoes are good leadoff hitter? He will no no go anywhere yet. Pollock is for sure your leadoff hitter. I'm sorry jockey your leadoff hitter. I mean he's led off. I would imagine most games against right right. Hander Jack has led off this year. <hes> jock would be your leadoff Guy Yep anything else seger and then turn round vase. I'd rather face right handers than left-hand course postseason. Absolutely left-handers are a dodger Kryptonite right now and they hit cranky really well. They'll be able to hit the hit actually hit Verlinden okay yeah. They hit him. Oh and remember if they if these Games are in Houston you can D. H.. For Dugo Oh yeah yeah that's right or you or you can d. h.. Jock if you WANNA have her do on the field yeah but I'm thinking gee is fast. He covers a lot of ground in the outfield the sodas for do go but yeah they're they're both I mean I flip a coin. I think jock and center for do go D. H.. But you could go either way on that <hes> yeah and they <hes> I'd I'd rather face right handed starters than left handed starters any day of the week yeah <hes> so they're they're stacked that way and they own a <hes> grantee. I'M I don't find Houston scary as everybody else does. I think the dodgers it is an absolute tossup you get into a world series with Houston and by the way a rematch is the first world series the two thousand seventeen world series was just a phenomenal series. Seven game series went right down to the wire. The last game was kind of a dud but there were unbelievable games in that series <hes> and if you go back and look at I think the series was lost in game mm two yup sure was game too was where the game verlander started right but he didn't get the wind and get the win. He was actually losing in the top of the Ninth Kenley the happening Yeah Kinley blew the save up to Marvin Gonzalez Marlin Gonzales Marvin Marlin <hes> yeah that it was a great series though <hes> terrible heartbreaking series but <hes> just as a strictly as a baseball series fantastic until game seven so ben Higgins. It's just treated me they already said bellinger publicly I facing and so writing the postseason you can't take Bellenger Outta right field. He's gold glove season. No boundaries playing every single game every single inning. You're not taking him out. No no no he's not saying take him out playmate Furlan that I may not know he's playing in right field. He's been great in right field. You have too many too many first basins now anyway. You're it's. It's not gonna be League Max Muncie. It's GONNA be David freeze so you're just not those. He is no longer first basement. He is a right fielder. He's a gold glove right. He had another assist this yesterday. I was in ninth outfield assists tied in Major League Baseball Yeah No I. I don't think you take him out to right field. I don't think you could he's. Although I'll tell you what he's fun onto watch first base. He was up phenomenal defensive first Baseman to that guy is just an unbelievable athlete can play I or right and is spectacular both positions but I think you want him in right field again <hes> because of the arm and and because of the number of assists he's had this year and I think he is going to win the gold glove. Thank you should win the goal has to he's been amazing this year. Everything is going well silver slugger. He's going to win a gold glove. He could very well win m._v._p.. Yeah all right so let's let's before for your own here. Let's throw a just a random question of random in nineteen eighty one yep okay on this date August first nineteen eighty-one very first day of MTV MTV how many of the the original MTV V._J.'s can you guys name. Wow that's tough. <hes> God one of ours. Yes Summers always always no no no mark Goodman Goodman. Is the name your that's one Amanda dive. No it wasn't one of the originals no there was <hes> what what is your name she. No Martha Mesa's there starts with a Q.. Kennedy was Kennedy one of the Queen Quin Queer Close Martha Quinn all right so there are three left of Black Guy White Guy woman right. I'm trying to think of the black guys name Teddy No J._J.. Jackson J._J.. Jack Why am I in this game reborn eighty the three yeah so this is before the I think you can get the woman. She's pretty famous blonde yeah. She's a blonde yeah. <hes> Alan Hunter is the guy you're missing right right right but the the wind would have been the most famous original MTV V._J.. Remember Nina Blackwood Loyd Nina Blackwood Choice Nina Blackwood Mark Goodman Alan Hunter J._J.. Jackson and Martha Quinn and the first video came under the first video video killed the radio star I I the I want to say. It's the bubbles I did that. That's a good question. I don't know <hes> the muggles swatow. Those were the days when M._t._v. played music videos. Yeah they really don't anymore. I don't think there are any music videos on MTV zero rope buckle up got it is the bugs yeah yeah the Quin twin it couldn't I only I I couldn't quite get it couldn't quite pull it out that shirt thank you man. He's a he's already stepping into the weekend. Yeah exactly getting ready for you. Are you ready to play mystery voice. You've never played mystery voice against Hugh coming up. <hes> purgatory is coming up next for you. Sodano is here and it's Ireland versus Sonata Voice Mason Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A.. I Mason Ireland merging with the Sodano. Show Ryan came here. What's up guys? Hey Hi George John. We've never I thought we thought we'd continue purgatory hung up into saying hi to me yeah. That's true so we're going to do a little game here. George let's do it. I've never played tomorrow by the way fast. Track your your idea. We're crediting you with creating. I am a big fan of faster so I think the audience will enjoy the Hi Sarah when Mason Ireland credit other people with creating something you are just mad about the blame potus. I am invented the blame. Pi Yeah see that's a good alliance science alliance. No I'm happy McVeigh thing. If I deliver you back Sean mcvay. Will you admit that we invented the you mad about my bromance Sean McVeigh Even Amina Phillix she was chaperoned and I thought it was odd. Given my really want to go back. You can of worms again. He might have to have come so far he might have said this was the original the original the last time Georgia went down this road to me and said Nice to hear more on this purgatory thing is over. I'm ending it. Yeah it's done. It's only become the biggest segment we the entire sentence now now. He might have said hey man he. He might have said it would be great to do the show with you this year like me me you know me you know what here's the thing I he might play this game against Brian. Why am I am True Rams A._M.? Span or the Ramle ceramill Mason is the only one at the station who actually spends his own money on the ranch so I said to Sean Yeah. I said you know Sean. You and I could be cool but the interview unless there's a scheduling snap right unless that happened with Mace yeah no I did McVeigh did offer up to you. Former tight ends coach Rob Rob Rob Board there you go. That's you're you're the one who is actually who's actually nicknamed. Rod Boorda's yes right at border similar so I took the high road there. Did I was flattered by the offer for the bromance Yes yes but I said you know what stick with Mason in IRA- Shahu with us every Wednesday all season announced with you today George Junior show which I think is cool meanest. It's GonNa be in the booth. Yes she's going to be the first Sicilian. Oh and Marshall Faulk woman analysts doing it on linear television. We've Hannah storm did it on one of those was Amazon Games. WHAT IS LINEAR television regulates you get in your house? You don't have to get on the Web non-cable yeah because Hannah Storm did the cable nine an Internet right <hes> non streaming right like Hannah Storm. <hes> and Andrea Kremer did one of those Amazon Games on Thursday nights on the streaming service service and the first woman to be an analyst which is also let me tell you I listened to her podcast. She knows more about football. It's super dorks she she is she she is really. She's knows she deserves it. We're super proud of her. Yeah that's funny. Do you see what the Seahawks tweeted out when they did take take good notes mean it conscious. She's the seahawks yeah so yeah. She's a big seahawks Fan. Yeah all right Jill listening to Caspian in Los Angeles we do this during fast track and we ran out of time today and I thought this was a perfect opportunity to pit John Ireland verses George Synon- and it's it's the summertime and we need to just do stuff absolutely amen so the this is around of mystery voice. Let me get my cue to the answers here okay. So how do you play this game until if you if you he's GonNa play summit speaking right as soon as you know who it is your name is your bus and if you miss it opens it up for the other guy okay so ready. Here is mystery void. He's all have to do something or is this generic mystery ran doing okay okay. Okay okay. Here is mystery voice number. One everybody in the audience and listen to me carefully is being given a special package and don't that's Oprah Winfrey that is Oprah Winfrey yet in the famous you get a car. You get a car car with Ellen that one is going to be my guest because it sounded like a talk. Show Ireland is up one one. Nothing I'm going to be here is mystery voice number two but I loved the style. I Got Georgia George Michael Irvin Mike Lurid. Thank you got that right out of the gate nice all right mystery voice number three this was a truly important nights for America and with with a nation tuned in to watch one man emerge from giant. I got into George George Trevor. Noah Trevor knows never seen that show. You've never watched the daily show note with him. I am currently waiting three to nothing. Of course you are her. She would've everyone so. It's two one George arterioles mystery voice number four last funny kid from New England to get a chance to super I get to sit and sit next to a legend George George Arch Dan Shaughnessy no Lou England hero award get a little more grass to me for any kid from New England to get a chance to sit. I get to sit sit next to a legend like Joe. Castiglione it really it is a dream come true John that is new dodgers announcer. Tim Never that yea never it good job man. I didn't realize he was doing red SOx games right before he can't so he's doing red sox games during the world series last year now. Maybe he'll be are good law. I took this will decide to do it misses Ivano. You're doing well mystery voice number five by saying I know we're following the game of thrones uh-huh panel which is a nightmare just effectively the owners didn't show up because I didn't want to answer questions about the show aw Jimmy Kimmel no we're following the game of thrones panel which is nightmare. Just objectively objectively didn't show up because I didn't want to answer questions the Yeah sorry about that. Brian of course would have gone five three three two three wins brand COMECON who I almo I did J. put him in jail. Seth Rogan went on a rant at comecon about lot how bad the final season of game of thrones was people. Just will not leave it. Alone won't let it go. They will not let it go yeah Brian. Did you watch game of thrones I did yeah. Did you like the last season I did did not. I don't think the last season was so bad that you can say game of thrones stunk it wasn't he didn't live up to the other seasons. I'm not one of these people to let a T._v.. Show ruined my life. I mean ruined. A lot of people who ruined lives in the problem. The biggest problem was these super sized episodes. Yeah just doesn't work that like that's not how T._v.. View needed ten one hour episodes to really let the story breathe and tell the story properly they you know you can't do time and place and all these other things if you everybody's gotTa be where they need to be in an hour and a half so that to me was what really did it in the season before whatever eight episodes yeah the neon ten episodes in the last two seasons reasons to get it right. They didn't have still is fun Atkinson's. Hey we have great. We didn't have time to get to this today but I'll throw it out with Georgian Brian here to do you guys see that Melvin. Gordon's agent demanded a requested a trade today yeah yes okay. Would you trade them. <hes> where that laughter come from after I heard ear I didn't I wouldn't trade well. Wait a minute wait. You'd pay them I would I would if someone's willing to give me a first rounder I would. I think I would too yeah. I might even trade Zeke. Would you do for a second rounder probably not no yeah. It's got to be a for venise. He realized that if he doesn't come in then you get you know he next year he just goes away becomes Lebanon Bell well no because you I mean he's. He's has no leverage on this one right because he does. He doesn't he's under contract and he's got a plan to play. I've got Lebron tweet. That seems a Serio Nice. He says it just happened like six minutes ago. All right all right enough is enough. The throne has been played with too much much and I ain't for horseplay ether coming soon smiling face fire fire fire fire fire fire fire emoji Crown Hashtag James Gang <hes> <hes> if you think that's in response to the Griffin story I know that so I was on the jump today and mcmanamon and Ramon and I R we're talking about it and McMenamin says he spoke to Lebron camp and McKinnon's coming in studio to start the show and he says they were stunned by this. Now I will say this Grif says that this was taken out of that not all the context was put in and I believe it John Because I like David Griffin Pants of quotes is going to say he's going be there forty quotes from the guy in the story. I get it but it doesn't mean they're all in the right in the proper. They're not framed the properly you know what I'm saying. He could have said yeah playing with Lebron on can be tough Blah Blah Blah but at the end of the day it's worth because you go to four straight finals and that might not have been employee says he wanted to climb into a closet and cried and he say that he said Xavier also said he wouldn't have come back no matter how much money he was that miserable that then all reflects on and has to be this tweet tweet from the Brian has to be reference to that run a lot of that the griffin stuff what was left out of the story which I know for a fact was a big thing with Griffin was was the Dan Gilbert part and there was no very little mention of Dan Gilbert. No there was mentioned in the Salon. She's willing to spend all that much analytics and all that episode but that's it like there wasn't any of the negative stuff that comes from working for Dan Governor which I know for a fact is part of the reason. Is You know not finding it fun to be the G._M.. Of a Lebron team is not the same thing as Lebron is a bad guy. No I think the stuff about weaning is probably what if you're going to find there's a lot of pressure to put the right players. Lebron not being interested in winning anymore is if anything's going to he says the same animal. Is I get that part of it. How did you get that part of it? You know why Lebron said it is much he was in a game against Boston and was asked about his legacy and he's like and by the way these aren't mutually Julie Exclusive. I believe I remember defending Lebron that day because people were freaking out but he said Yeah my legacies set like I I'm paraphrasing. <hes> <hes> people here freaked out like Oh. She doesn't want to win as much as you used to. That's Kobe. That's that's our because we live in Kobe right but I remember that day. During the regular season he said that and people freaked out <hes> so you know look you can't have his cake and eat it too. He's actually said something similar to that. You know so okay the tweet I interested in all right all right enough is enough. The throne has been played with so much and so much played with too much much needed an extra an extra not who an I eight for horse play ether coming soon Smiley Smiley face fire fire fire fire fire fire fire Smiley Face Hashtag James Gang crown of the fire crown yeah and then you Jane what is coming soon. Does that mean he's going like scorched earth. He's like so he's not going to tweet anymore. He's just he's going to know. Basically he's going to light up when basketball season comes Lebron James is going is highly motivated to remind people at his best player in the game. I hope that's what it is. That'd be awesome so ether means <hes> the upper region of air beyond the clouds. Yeah that's not what it means. In like the pop culture lexicon it just means he's going to or a slave waist or a pleasant smelling colorless. All that's Miriam Webster that that's not like <hes> so the world's oldest millennial surprise remains going to going to scorch the Earth yes wow. What do you think that looks like? I'm the find out. It looks like a Anthony Davis. Davis plays like he did a couple of seasons ago they to best three three best players in the N._B._A.. Like I would like this isn't this shouldn't surprisingly if your Lebron James and you've had the people based on one injury really after a season where you average twenty eight eight eight start basically writing your obituary a lot of price when the summer doing that you know he got hurt one time everybody else there's a lot of this season before. Durant is hurt a lot. You know Kyrie's hurt all the time everybody everybody else gets hurt. Lebron gets hurt. Once and people are like well and he's all right yeah I mean I get it. He's older and all these other things but he's got got a better health track record than Anthony. Davis and it's not even close played eighty two games the <hes> zero before so I think the idea that Lebron is automatically on his way down. Is something something he certainly is not buying and he's going to be very motivated this year to prove and I'm sure being the G._M.. Of Lebron James Team is you're. When you're in a pressure cooker there is I mean it's as David Griffin said Lebron gets credit for all the good stuff and you get all the blame for the bands? That is true that I don't think he'd take that back. That's true that's and makes complete hands or aunt said something very similar didn't about yeah about that. Yeah no use the word grant zoar toxic which is way worse sure but he that was his general point was. You'RE GONNA go there and you're gonNA get the blame. If something goes wrong and that's that's why he wants to play with Kobe. Nobody one of the one of the weird things that we do with a lot of different superstars especially when they're quote quote unquote our superstar is we give them a pass on nights where they don't play well where they don't quite do what they're supposed to do. Is I'll well but you know who else but we expect the guys who aren't as good to be great like well. That guy didn't step up he was not supposed to he's not as good as your superstar but depending on who it is is we like to give that guy passed on sometimes we like to go crush the star right and you know to the e- even if they've got nobody around but it just depends on the player in the context I'll say this. I don't think anything that David Griffin said is untrue right. I think that there's probably more to what he said that was edited out of the peace because it sells is better for a fledgling magazine to have it print this way a fledgling or struggling magazine. Both I mean no sports illustrated is in his right. They didn't have been sold like three times this right so I think it's a magazine right so I think there's some of that too. I'm sure there's more context of what he said. God because he came on he knows my show months ago and like defended Lebron when I said like he does this he does that. He involves evolves himself too much and he put the full. Stop on me and said we have the cuts <hes> so like that's why I feel like some of this is not the entire. I think it's some of it's not the entire context. He did say some of the stuff like that. It's not always easy. Of course it's never going to be willing to have very difficult. Go conversations with Lebron. I always was which is why we had a great relationship right yeah. I didn't think any less of Griffin or Lebron after reading that story but my question is because we gave the Lakers a ton of flak around here for not you know why David Griffin out there go get him. I don't think they tried but also would have taken the job. Maybe maybe not maybe not or if you wouldn't have taken the job. He said he wouldn't have stayed on in Cleveland for a right for any amount of money. I think he wanted full autonomy and he's got that he wouldn't have had that here. Well it depends if you ditch. I mean let's we don't have to get into saying change out for hours. I would get into the new hole show. I can't change the context of leaders Asian. You're you're saving the nuance. I'll save the say okay so stay tuned for nuance. Yeah People Love New Onset Radio Twenty minutes nuance nuances kind of the opposite a heartache. Isn't it yeah yeah yeah so stay tuned for Nuance Minimum will be <hes> chapter to purgatory coming next Mason Ireland George George Sodano and Brian Cabinets E._S._p._N.. L._A.. I what is up it is purgatory. It is Mason Ireland Sodano now and <hes> Brian Kaminsky and yeah new ones coming in thirteen minute. Nuance stay tuned driveway so we get an N._F._l.. Game Tonight you. You Guys GonNa Watch you absolutely I'll it'll be on here yeah on den and Denver in Atlanta. You don't WanNa this team. Atlanta could get in these have early implications for my fantasy draft. That's all I care. None of the starters are playing watching. You see that's the problem I mean look football great. I'm glad it's coming back. Obviously it's <hes> it's my favorite time of year. <hes> I love football season and frank. Frankly the fall is just the best time of year to be doing what we're doing 'cause. She got <hes> Pro Football College football you get the N._B._A.. Starting at the baseball playoffs mean fall were about to go into the season right. This US right now is not to seize no thanks David Griffin though Yeah David Griffin thank you gave through a log on the fire for for for a day yeah yeah. Maybe a little bit tomorrow. Yeah it'll burn tomatoes fast take Friday so does that has track Friday. You guys sit there and you you make the big money and you talk up up yourselves and your skills and all that anybody can host a radio show in December in this town. It is easy. I mean right. I mean it's like any Schmo off the street but the minute it gets hard hard in August when there's nothing about you guys scattered Congress here every day but were there were days where we all had to do the shows in August there there were some times back in the day and there were some time yeah yeah now instead. We just go on vacation. We both know right to go on vacation and not talk about anything but next week as O._C.. Week are you going to be part of O._C.. Week I think I've asked you this question. Already are doing is office are you doing. I'm keeping my head down. Are you doing are you living Sasha House called reviews successfully. Stay out of Orange County all next week that you should be given an award. I mean look. We're like every day and night O._C.. Only week that everybody's basically working except for George but then Thompson and Charles Started O._C.. We Thompson are doing Thursday and Friday last week so it's really whether or not Mike needs a helper for for George Monday through Wednesday yet so it's really up to Mike it is up to Mike Michael decide and tell Brian Nowy hunting Tuesday el Torito and you're the fallback choice. That's actually on my business card. Tuesday Tuesday were at El Torito at John and I have the bowling thing and Lucky Strike Yeah Mason's jousting with key on Wednesday night bearing in the house will be there Sunday night and staying at that point he didn't want to be with the unwind the the unsullied. No unsullied book great on that hotel is five hundred bucks a month. That's above your your your rules said three hundred Pant Oh you make the station and other stations fail Ken Fancy. I'M NOT GONNA go above the above above the limit yeah three hundred bucks limit on hotel room yeah so the so then where we Wednesday Wednesday were debts where at a secret location I think we're actually the house the house where I'm going to be staying <hes> Tuesday night on Thursday now Thursday up here and just green screen Orange Orange County to be like wag the dog no no this we are we're going down and mixing it up and Orange County people were excited that we were down there. The last two days <hes> at camp going on Yeah <hes> Rams Campaign Golden Road Bruin yesterday like it was fun like the the people were into it Mason. If you're actually staying down there you should popping on race camp a couple of days. Oh I should yeah I should toasty McVeigh. Go see shaw catch up with <hes> we saw yeah yeah. That's a good idea C._v. dabs Yup. Just let them know you know George. It'll be okay right. I'm mentioned George's name. That'll give me some crazy. Hey Sean I work with short. I work with George. I love that guy who oh oh. Did you see what clay said No. What clay says so klay was on was spoke to carry champion? He was at one of these video game things things I meant to bring that up today yeah and he said look anyone who starting to write us off. As far as the dynasty being over. You're crazy basically is what he said like Yo slow down. We still have me. We still have staff. We still have draymond. We just added the Ngelo Russell. We're going to be just fine. You WanNA sleep on us. That's on there's actually a lot of truth that I I agree the if clay comes back fifty one team if I don't think they need to be I think need to be healthy claims to come back by the All star break well Georgia couple years ago when the West was loaded the eight C one that couple years two thousand eight the eight seed was Oklahoma City and they were fifty and thirty two right so you might need fifty to get it in land. There's so much talent in the way because it's so competitive you're not going to have to get there like I think that the last couple of years has been what forty-seven yeah has gotten you in so I think they can be around there I if they get into the tournament and plays healthy by the all star break and he's got six weeks to get ready for the playoffs. I could see them going to the finals Linas like I think that they're that good. I wouldn't WANNA play him. That's for sure that that team. I mean if they can get enough bench him because he's not there Sean. Sean living is not as Livingston's not there that team is the one that won the those three guys one title and now you have the Angelo to Brian you. Were there for this. I I will say this the twenty eleven Lakers after they've gone to the finals in Oh eight nine and ten and they won it in nine and ten still had all the all the key guys still add vitamin ODEM and POW how and Kobe they were just after three straight after three years they were exhausted and over each other but now so if the warriors you know they've been five straight years right but they just maybe differences now now they're now. They have a chip on their shoulder now they. They don't even have to invent the thing where teams who were like. Everybody thinks were done and discounted. It's actually true. Everybody thinks that they're done that. It's over. It's the clippers now they do. It's the Lakers and the warriors are over and so now they have that actual chip. The playful Ramona Ramona was talking about it today on the jump with us about how staff is absolutely relishing in being the underdog for the first time in a long time I._D.'s. That's how we came up though it has a five foot two baby-faced shooter from Davidson like this is right up his alley I think Steph will could potentially the League in scoring this year I do too and I also think you were talking about that. Brian had always being overlooked. I found it funny that in the Western Conference finals this year the four starting guards all who all star caliber went to Davidson Washington state weaver state now and Lee high you know all four of them craze played that championship. Hey besides it's nuance new what's coming up on minimum. It'll be your shortly. We'll talk to him about this. David Griffin Lebron thing he spoke to Lebron's camp so we'll talk to McMenamin about what he said with Lebron's camp <hes> and then Tim Kirk is GonNa stop by we'll tell him about the trade deadline but mostly mostly shades of grey shade once yeah and Brian Yeah Nuance and Bryant Yeah Stay

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MT. ROCKMORE | Episode #20: .38 SPECIAL

MT. ROCKMORE – THE BOWER SHOW

41:04 min | 5 months ago

MT. ROCKMORE | Episode #20: .38 SPECIAL

"Know I spent a lot of time. Thank you universe for. Cut off jeans shorts and cowboy boots. It's showtime folks down best. Now you're welcome welcome. Everybody Olah Southern Fried Rock. Moore's bid welcome to our southern rock and lights Iraq born nation. I'm Bauer pulling together. They needed special forces to make a tour. De Force hike up the mountain side taking the strength in numbers in picking the four. Kurd all right thrown way too. Many album titles free to not know who this band is. Southern rockers formed by two neighborhood buddies out of Jacksonville Florida. And if you're all of that sounds fascinating to you. Do us a small favor and check on our other mount rock more ventures at the Bauer show dot com recently. We took down the offspring. Put them up on Iraq. More rat now up on the Mount Rushmore looking at the career defining songs from then the Beastie boys without an rank from NFL network Alison Chains Michael Fabriano from the NFL. Network now. This Band's roots firmly planted in the Leonard Skinner D- family trade so much. So that will. They're named after a Leonard Skinner Song. Today's man has taken the art of southern rock and the big guitars of arena. Rock married them together in one deep fried nugget of goodness and when you've got the career releasing a couple of albums straight ahead southern. Boogie the BAND REVAMPS. It sound goes all right. Let's let's fall. Halfway Between Country Fried Blues Rock and Driving Arena hard rock and end up with a plan. Your boots on flack jacket buttoned up. Because we're almost ready to begin the climb now. I'm fully aware that I will not be able to satisfy every girl in hot shorts or Daisy. Dukes who thought hm if only the almond brothers recorded with louder marshalls and maybe some more blow. Well we got it here for you on this. Mount Rushmore thirty eight special after more than three decades together. Thirty eight special still continue to tour. They still continue to bring their signature blast of southern rock over one hundred cities a year. They're one of those bands that back in time when financially? Things weren't good for people in the early nineties. They went to small clubs for the sole purpose of being able to sell tickets for lower prices. So people come check out their show. When you're ban leg that when you care about your fans that much you get a Mulligan you gotTa Gimme you get one. That didn't quite make the caught but it gets to be heard as bracket terms the number sixteen seat taken on the number one seat of the tournament now they have many gold and platinum album awards and those awards stand testament to the endurance of a legendary southern rock powerhouse. Get your neck beard ready. Drop a dip in your pie hole because it's playing time. This song reached number twenty five on the billboard hot one hundred and nineteen eighty-four and was on the soundtrack to the movie with almost the same title are thirty eight special play in goes to teach teacher on the thirty eight special now. Rock battle certain. The tape teacher duplicate teacher their teachers. The movie in Nineteen Eighty. Four was a comedy drama. Starring Nick Nolte Jo Beth Williams Ralph Macho and Judd Hirsch shot in Columbus Ohio. Thirty eight special led that soundtrack cool is that was one of those mega soundtracks. Were you had other artists like Freddie Mercury Z. Z. Top Bob Seger Night Ranger Eric Martin. Who later went on to sing for Mister big? They made up the teacher soundtrack. Once again. Proving you don't have to have a good movie to have a good soundtrack. It's carved time my friends now back in the day when MTV actually did this crazy thing they it's so weird they used to play music videos. Remember that where they actually had songs and then they made a video for that song and then. Mtv played that they used to be so much more than just reality TV. I know you find that hard to believe at least your kids. Do you remember what that was like? This video was the lucky thirteenth video to air on the day that MTV debuted back in nineteen eighty one back then. This song reached number three on the Billboard Rock Tracks Chart Number Twenty seven on the billboard. Hot One hundred our first song were officially carving into the Mount Rushmore. Of Thirty Eight special was the first track from their fourth studio album. Wild eyed southern boys. This is hold on loosely on thirty eight special amount bad. Sudan back see does about coming up with ideas for songs way back then Don Barnes. Jim Patrick. They described that songs opening. Riff raff like the cars meets. Leonard Skinner. Something that's how they kinda define hold on loosely taking inspiration from the just what I needed song from the cars. In Fact Jeff Carly See. Wrote the famous one eight note riff to the thirty eight special song based upon the cars by the way where the members of thirty eight special used to checkout live bands when they were underage in a little thirty eight special. Today you learn all courtesy of Jacksonville's finest thirty eight special here on Mount Rock more. It's the onion radio news. A magical girlfriend transmute guilt into precious stones. This is doyle. Redland reporting residents of Galway Michigan. Were astonished when Jennifer Mall. Roy magically converted Boyfriend Mike Royces guilt over his chronic tardiness into a beautiful emerald encrusted bracelet. According to one of Royce's friends the girlfriends miraculous powers are nearly limitless. This one time I should have Blake Jennifer's parents house and she was able to which him into helping her sister move out of her apartment. I power is great. Indeed Roy is most adept at transmuting guilt into golden jewel. She is also able to harness the power of jealousy transforming it into flowers and dinner at a fancy restaurant rattling for the onion radio news online at the onion dot com. She is clearly clearly to metro sexual moment moment in history the dragon slayer bond pardew a man in Montgomery County taxes attacked by neighborhood. Pit Bull recently. The dog bit hard into produce hand in US release. It's Clinton with Pardew didn't complain the dog. It ruined his manicured fingernails and their shiny translucent nail Polish. Why not because he didn't have any girly Nail Polish? On in fact he doesn't even know what the word manicure means. He thinks it's when a guy gets better with the snarling beast. Still digging into his hand. Hard do didn't pull some WORC- crap and try to reason with the Animal. He didn't say that compromise let pass a UN resolution. Let's talk about your problems to give a rough childhood. Hell no the Texans Rag. One foot tall fanged monster a full block and a half his house where he dan. According to police choked it to death. No real man like perdue is going to let that hit ball off with a warning it's one strike and you're strangled to death. He's judge jury and executioner and more importantly he's a real man and now dragon slayer this been Lee camp for more funny crap. Checkout Lee can't Net and shark maybe Breaking down s now. I cannot believe that I'm actually thinking about blanking. You're bland oh you better believe it. Welcome back to the mound rock. More podcast if what we're doing here is you know making you feel good then. Please check out our website. The Bauer show dot com. Follow US ON TWITTER AT MT. Are Ck M. O. R. e. At Mount Rushmore? And all you fellow. Stay at home. Zoom teachers early Sunday drink and mother's Day Mama's welcome to the rock more crew. We're glad to have you sure. Tell all your fellows if I'm wearing tight jeans talk to my boots. I'm heightening my game. Soccer moms and the days of donning some serious chest hair softball. Dads out there about this. Podcast thou our second song. Being pounded into the thirty eight special. Mount Rushmore Mountainside is the Classic Barn Burner. That opened up the band's nineteen eighty album of the same name. Now Song only reached forty three in the US billboard charts it became a staple of FM rock radio. Trust me triple shot weekend. When I was on a KS. This was a definitive. Must have for the triple shot weekend. The album also featured Leonard Skins legendary pianist. Billy Powell song number. Three on the Mount Rushmore of thirty special song rocketed. Tonight on Mount Rushmore. June new all and visit someone new rocketed tonight. Thirty eight special. But here's something interesting. That song was written by survivor members. Gary Smith Frankie Sullivan and Jim Patrick for their band to perform on their first album survivor. But they're producer Ron. Evison felt like the song really didn't fit for the ban wasn't right for the record so it was nixed and the songs rock mix was given them to thirty eight. Specials Manager Spector. He took it to the ban. The ban recorded it loved it and eventually became their first hit. We are halfway through the Mount Rushmore. Thirty eight special songs. We've only got oh man to really just two more songs to go. Take a breather. First Time for a little thirty eight special today. You learned today today today today. All right finishing up my beer here have can be are one thirty eight specials on aright today you learned young members of thirty eight special often went to a bar called the forest in to hear other musicians play because they were underage. They couldn't legal into the club so they begged the kitchen workers to let them sit in the kitchen and listened from there. They were kind of right there at the debut. And the success of the ALLMAN brothers. Today you all. The band members lived within a few blocks of each other and often grouped and regrouped informally eventually forming thirty eight special today. You lert Donny. Van Zandt sounds a little familiar right his brother Johnny van Zandt and Leonard. Skinner will the two of collaborated on two albums. Brother brother and Van Zandt to and they even went on their first tour together as a team and finally in Thirty Eight Special. Today you learnt today you alert. The first two records were not successful by record industry standards for thirty eight special. Their third album rock and into the night released in nineteen seventy nine had that single hit the top forty and they took off from there and now back in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. This song kicked off the Tour de force album and video featured A. I think it's I would call her a supermodel except I think she was prominently an actress. She certainly a smoking hot actress from the eighties. I think she I'm not. She may have fallen into the supermodel. Category Julianne Phillips Former First Wife of Bruce springsteen was in this video man not only was the music better than the Hadi's also. This is probably my all time personal favorite song from thirty of agile. It's if I'd been the one here on mound rock tony apart so dave Tour de Force did well in nineteen eighty-three. Although Rolling Stone writer Steve Futterman complained that they had lost their southern edge and sounded more like a west coast band. I I tend to think the exact opposite. I got southern edge from that one and while we prepare for the final ascent up the Mount Rushmore of thirty eight special songs for our fourth and final carving. Let's Salute. Those songs couldn't quite make the climb sadly in the Valley of very stocker. A sounding songs lay the mangled remains of back where you belong me seriously. Listen to the lyrics on that it kind of sounds a little stocker. You might want to avert your eyes. If the death throes of an overproduced gully writing you where back to paradise has been laid to rest along with all the rest of the nerds from revenge of the nerds to nerds and paradise. All right enough with the emotional heartstrings. I'm pulling at here for you. The blurred Kurt loader riddled. Mtv Memories of the eighties it's time to carve the fourth and final screaming southern fide track in mountainside. You know what's next you have to process of elimination. Says you know what's next. We'll pick our final carving and if you like Iraq with an accent stay tune. It's southern rock porn next here. Mount Rushmore. This is lance with talk shot. 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Talk shot these two guys here. Voila it's a miracle. Congratulations Yada Yada Yada. Now here's a hardboiled egg. It's kind of like a testicle look unrecognizable now at a quarter. Sean for the Dick in go. Don't have time to screw up your boss now you do. So here's the deal kids by the cock shot you're gonNA get the criminal men for gravy Brown gravy white gravy inside the modifier. Ignite the salt and watch this hotdog. Bauxite Dave Matthews band sex with a horse. It's so easy if I can talk. Shot someone with one thing you can do with your whole hand. I mean bless. Somebody's Dick at the back of their genes. Kids can do it. I'm talking serious thick damage guys. We'RE GONNA make America's Meet Bananas Hurt. One shot at a time. I just slap a cock wash it and put it away. It's a very quick Dick Punch. It's a real time saver. It's so easy it's just like Bam Bam Bam Bam. My boyfriend gets so winded. The Cock shot sells for four ninety five. 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This classic song released on the Band's special forces album back in nineteen eighty two. I was thirteen years old. It became the band's first number one single on the billboard top tracks rock chart and also became one of the band's two top ten pop hits reaching number ten on the billboard. Hot One hundred. Your final spot on the thirty eight special amount rock more goes to right caught up in you. Hear the thirty eight Special Mount Rushmore. Who OVER YOU DO Who My cat bureau pass baton good song thirteen year old. Our La that cassette mainly because I had just gotten my very first Sony Walkman and I was just listening cassettes all the time. It had the the cheesy head. Mostly the buds we have now are the beats our anything over the years. It was an over the ear but it had that cheesy orange foam on the sides of it man I loved I think and I would just listen over and over and over and over again to that. Entire special forces cassette. I spent so much time chain. Lightning was one of my favorite songs. Second side of the cassette. That's what started off rough housing. Was there you keep running away. I I've I was surprised. You keep running away. Never became a bigger single for thirty eight special and more importantly one common thread for thirty eight special albums as they were making it big where these incredibly sexy women that were drawn on the covers of thirty eight special album not pictures of these ladies on the cover but the artists drew thirty eight album like it was an awesome. Comic Book. Were almost on some level graphic novel album cover and the girl and the thirty eight special album for special forces. I was amazed you rarely by the way ever saw her face out any of them on any of them you rarely ever saw face you rarely needed to and I spent a lot of time thanking the universe for cut off Jean Shorts and cowboy boots. Just remember in the hot shorts and wild eyed southern boys for a second just for Split goodstuff real quickly before we head out of here. I WanNa tell you about the shop. We've got open at the Bauer show dot com slash shop. We've got t shirts. We got Mount Rushmore t shirts. I think there's a rock more hat available for you to purchase. If you're like in this podcast please log onto the Bauer show dot com slash shop. And go get yourself while. There's a discount here for mother's Day weekend. Go get yourself some mount rushmore gear or our show clear. It's all right there for you. Dad's home podcast. Gear all right there and if you hate my picks if you think you can do better than by all means tweet me at Mount Rock more empty. Rotc Gay Amaury and let me know. I might need you to help me come host upcoming rock more than anyone you see spending the weekend mowing a lawn weed whacking or just chilling by the pool. 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Act 250, Farm Biosecurity

The Dave Gram Show on WDEV

1:31:24 hr | 7 months ago

Act 250, Farm Biosecurity

"The Radio Vermont. It's the Dave Graham. Show on. Wd It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most you. Now here's your host Dave Graham Good Morning. Vermont is Thursday February the twentieth. Two thousand twenty two to twenty some some kind of synergy to that date or anything but And we have good show lined up for you this morning. We're going to be talking in the first hour. Hear about act to fifty and proposed changes that have been making their way through a special commission. Study that fifty year old and US law and then suggested some legislation and Bletchley legislature has been working on particularly the house. Natural Resources Committee has been working on. These proposed changes all last session in into this session. Now in a big wrinkle came up in January when Scott Administration in the Vermont Natural Resources Council announced that they were going to be reaching a they had reached a compromise on proposed legislation Diminishing the role of the regional commissions that have been sort of the linchpin the first stop act two fifty for. It's all it's fifty years really and Go to a more streamlined. Statewide process that some people have analogize to say the Public Utilities Commission and We're going to be hearing in the first part of the show this morning from Ed Stanton. Who's a retired active fifty district coordinator? He worked in district five based in Bury For thirty two while Yes thirty one years initially he was a roving district coordinator and And then East in any settled a barrier and spent his the bulk of his career. There little later this hour we're GONNA be hearing from John Grossman of the natural resource of the aforementioned for my Natural Resources Council which has been pushing some of the changes. Active Fifty Grossman argues it. The law needs to be modernized in a big way and that part of the effort to do that There was this compromise with this with Scott Administration which wants to streamline the process. So we'll be talking a lot about active fifty in the next hour or so later on in the second hour of the program. Today we're GONNA have a conversation about with folks when the University of College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. It's our regular weekly Thursday feature these days we call it our seeds to society segment. And it's all about how food is grown Vermont and how food is consumed in Rod and marketed in All the different aspects of where our food comes from in how gets to us and and so on and so forth and today we are going to be talking about protecting our dairy herds hurt health and biosecurity. The by security seems to be the buzzword among a lot of farmers these days in terms of keeping diseases. That could really Devastate a dairy herd away and not not not not active here in the state of Vermont. Some steps farms need need to be thinking about it and We'll be talking about those in our second hour this morning but first let's let's start with guest at. Staticky is in in the studio with us this morning and ED. Thank you very much for joining me this morning. And yet you you mentioned to me before we started at you I this long career as district coordinator Under active fifty You were kind of appoint man take him. The applications in when they first came in the door. Is that right? Correct I served. There's administrative staff for the district. Commissioner three citizen volunteers appointed by the governor. We worked I worked with the applicants shape the applications to ensure efficient and orderly process once it got to the District Commission. So your district. Five would encompass I gather Washington County. And what else around Washington counties. Thirty five pounds includes a stove. Sugarbush everything in between wow and so And retail commercial developments like the Berlin Mall and the various other projects that have occurred over time long projects the glacial Gravel Oil County so we did a lot of mining projects. And what about the The granite quarries and Berry absolutely. Yeah so active is really covers a lot of different areas. Any anytime you want to do. Any kind of development that has an impact on the environment in Vermont. You need to at least ask yourself Is that is active fifty implicated here in fact? We walked me through that process the way it has worked over the last fifty years. Let's say I wanted to Build a convenience store and gas station on the corner of routes one and two. What what what do I need to be thinking about? Vis-a-vis active fifty so the two so-called jurisdictional triggers for actually fifty are commercial industrial development. And then the other one subdivision of land so from the beginning you know. Active fifty has always been premised on Local control so therefore if it's a town where there is zoning and subdivision regulations act out of the picture unless the commercial industrial developments on more than ten acres land by default at the ten has local control one Acre triggers commercial industrial development and then the short explanation for subdivision of land is ten or more loss. Triggers Act fifty. But you know it's important to note that in this day and age. Only thirty percent of all development and subdivision going on Vermont is any longer subject to act fifty putting it the other way seventy percent of all the developments division. Vermont does not have anything to do with active fifty. There's a lot of confusion out there by. Golly I need a permit. It's an active fifty permits. It's not true. Only thirty percent better worse goes through actually fifty any longer and the reason for that is the diminishment of of the percentage of projects which go through active fifty. I gather as more and more local communities have adopted their own their own zoning regulations correct that's right global control therefore fifty backed off on jurisdiction and the second factor is over the last few years the legislature has been increasing the number of exemptions to incentivize or encourage development quote unquote in the right places. So they've been backing off jurisdiction for example on residential projects. You know if it's in the right place you no longer need to go through active fifty so I I if you are in a in a city typically if you're in barrier mafia or store Waterbury really you're going to be subject to locals awning probably not active fifty that's correct and So that was. That's a lot different from the way the world worked back fifty years ago when active started out right that's right because Dean Davidson and the folks back then had the the wisdom and the insight that a lot of the towns had no local control. And they need to have something. A compelling state interest was to protect the ecosystems and particularly water quality the Water Quality In issues inactive fifty. Don't extend actually of empty never extended to agriculture Enron. For instance right correct. So that's another giant sort of a track of development or activity in bravado. Which is not under the fifty umbrella right. Nothing to do that to fifty so I guess active fifty. Maybe considered to be more ubiquitous than it really is. That's correct you know. Even Phil Scott had terrible experience with active fifty. He thought when he was young businessman he won open motorcycle shop and long story short. He still tells us on the campaign trail that he changed his whole career. Because of an dastardly delaying act fifty will the public record indicates Phil was finished and done with active fifteen thirty two days as a minor application. Unfortunately the guy. He teamed up with WHO OWNED. The property dragged his feet for months. Forgetting Related Agency of Natural Resources. Waste permit So there's a perfect example Where had nothing to do? With active fifty the delay by law and rule the commission had to wait for the anr wastewater permanent And and and so when when the Governor says the that active? What's Load Them? Down prevented his project. that's really not the case. Public record indicates that's not correct and that was the district Coordinator back then. We know luckily in hindsight that was the year we took the great family trip to yellowstone. Somebody else covered the base for me but again in the public records there Phil was over and done with act fifty thirty two days. Wow Okay and is that pretty typical? I mean talk to me also about people talking about being tied up and active fifty forever. Is that pretty typical that It's a month or more government processes. Perfect I don't think that's a standard for any government agency including legislative branch but having said that active fifty has always had these performance standards so many days or weeks within which to get something done you know. I lived by those performance standards. You could see. In these large controversial cases that people would be raising these concerns of or allegations of delays. So every case long story short has a procedural history in it indicating from day. One all the way through to the final decision so yes. There are some cases which take a long time a lot of the time we were waiting for additional symbols from an applicant I just was caught on when you said no government processes perfect. I was thinking to myself. Well there was that phone call Ukraine joke. I the So accurate fifty right now is is proposed to get some big changes. What are some of the biggest changes envisioned in the legislation? That's currently pending. The pending. Bill would basically eliminate any meaningful role for the district emissions which have been the heart attack to fifty for fifty years. The proposed bill also has some language in it which is feel good language you know in terms of forest blocks and habitat But for a lot of reasons it doesn't really have a punch behind it. This is very unfortunate because as we were discussing a little bit this goes back to a legislative study committee that went cross the state for two years gathering public input. They gave a report in December two thousand eighteen which the House Natural Resources Committee picked up with in January of last year and worked all of last year quite diligently in a methodical way to come up with a good bill when they left off in. May everyone thought they'd come back this year and by mid January the bill would be going to the floor of the House that did not happen and the The reason that that got sorta way later whatever is what on January seventh a private organization the NRC and the Scott Administration produced seventy four. Page basic basically counterproposal Which sort of disregarded the work that was done by the Legislative Study Committee and the has not resources committee and this proposal I began with the total elimination of the district commissions and then it went on to add some other components in my opinion that was poisoned down the well and quite frankly. It was a hijacking of the process by the House Natural Resources Committee up until that point all of us everyone proceeded in good faith with that with that process. My my impression is that the committee chair is not has. Been Cool to this idea of of Significantly reducing the role of the district emissions or eliminating them or whatever. Well what happened was after the original Via Nursery Scott proposal to limit the commission's Rain into to say the least trouble Suddenly that morphed into well we'll keep the district missions to do minors. But we're still going to create this new board at a cost of six hundred forty thousand dollars to do the hearings that the district commissions did quite well for fifty years and the The new ward again would be a statewide board of what it would be mirroring. The Public Utility Commission formerly known as a public service board so they would be paying I think the estimated salary is something like plus benefits one hundred forty thousand dollars for each of these three professional members on the board by the way district commission members. Now do the same work for one hundred dollars a day and That is that is a significant difference. I I think the other thing about the You know you hear about the complaints directed toward the the former public service or now public utility commission that it's too litigious. It's too much like a court. It's it's too inaccessible for average citizens to have input in into its processes And I would gather to. You must be worried that a similar fate would befall. Any new board built along the same lines. That's correct you know I have been to a public service board now Public Utility Commission hearings. And I've actually seen as an experienced bureaucrat. Myself you can see how hyper legalistic it is and I contrast that with what the former environmental board used to do. This is the board that was eliminated in two thousand and four under that wave of quote unquote reform. The board was still user friendly they. They took the appeals of the district commissions and they knew their role was to cross T.'s. Don is on legal procedure and stuff but it was still an opportunity for the salt of the earth to be on equal footing with the biggest developers And that was eliminated When the board was eliminated environmental court which is also a hyper realistic So part of the Legislative Study Committee report identified the problem with the appeals. And that's where the House Resources Committee was going in two thousand nineteen and now we wound up with this proposal for this professional board which will be just like the Puc the accu fifty Law has been actually praised. I I've seen national media reports about it Overtime In terms of its its welcoming citizen involvement especially at the district commission level. Is that the main problem. You see years that the that's GonNa be diminished. Two problems one is. Certainly that would be a major blow to act fifty. If this prevails they'll be some sort of land use control but they should not quality act fifty anymore it will be new undertaking. But the other thing too. That's unfortunate is the lost opportunity now in this law to really address twenty-first-century challenges that fell by the wayside. And we could talk a little bit about that in terms of you know the these profound implications of climate change in. Vermont. And and so I I mean I thought there was some climate change provision in the bill aren't there are Quite the criteria would expand to include impacts on climate. That's right but my point is that We know that there's a reasonable expectation of climate migration into Vermont and is a reasonable expectation that the first wave will be people with wealth that will be wanting to relocate from places which are seeing the dire effects of climate change now that California and Florida for example and so there was nothing in this bill that prepares for that in. This is the wisdom that they had back in the late nineteen sixties. Davison the crowd. But there's no comparable provisions bill now. For example everything about fifteen hundred feet reminded the aquifers recharge areas water quality. The watersheds of the rivers Last remaining intact forest habitat areas. But there's nothing in the war right now. That anticipates these new growth changes in the twenty first century again. Unfortunately everything was waylaid by this battle. Now over district commissions And the bill in the in the current form and so Is there would there be a way to maybe pass. Do this a little more piecemeal past the changes to Respond to the climate change issue right now and save the battle over the district commissions for an another time or something like that. In fact there is discussion on that very topic going on in the State House to sort of bifurcated break in half this Worked this whole project to to rewrite active fifty. What are some of the other things I mean? They're clearly some baby. In this bathwater I would think in and The climate changes would be among them. Anything else you'd like to see preceding be saved. We know that there are two new jurisdictional provision one deals with interchange area on the interstates. Nothing wrong with that. But it just covers within two thousand feet of the interchanges and another new jurisdiction vision deals with subdivision of land where a combination of common roads and driveways of all adds up to more than two thousand feet. That will come under active. Fifty less sounds good but you know we used to have the old road rule. Eight hundred you know we saw. We saw a lot of site plans with seven hundred. Ninety nine foot roads to avoid jurisdiction. You know what's going to happen with these. Two Thousand Foot wrote provision one thousand nine hundred ninety nine foot road subdivisions to avoid jurisdiction. So it sounds good. It feels good. Doesn't really signify much. Talk to me a little. More about the interchange rule here or proposed There's been a lot of discussion especially around Exit Four Randolph. And what's GonNa be what's going to be built there and what land is going to be protected and so on and so forth and I was just wondering if Do you have any sense? That there is a how would how these changes apply to area like that? Well I kind of go back to the late. Nineteen sixties but the so-called billboard for and I mentioned that because entitled Envious I think it's chapter forty five there's a lot more besides the billboard Lord the legislature made findings of fact in nineteen. Sixty-nine that the importance of these scenic quarters on the interstate or critical to the economic aspects of Vermont. That's why these quarters have been jealously protected for the last fifty years. So we get to the interchanges. This goes back kind of in a way to Howard Dean where he had concerned about. You know development beginning to sprawl at those interchanges Such as we've seen in Chilton County and you know he put a finger in the dike with an executive order Subsequent governors just dissolve the executive order. So this bill now is a is an attempt to get hands around what you can see at those interchanges Let's Let's bring in a listener. I believe Susanna is on the line from Walden. Good Morning Susannah. Hi I have a question to questions actually for ed one. I'm wondering if Ridge Lines are protected in this Proposed bill and to one of the complaints about the existing act to fifty processes that the appeals to the environmental core. Are the Noveau and the complaint is that gives the public two bites of the Apple. And I'd like Ed to explain that. Thanks so rich. Lines I There's nothing in the bill in its final form that deals with Ridge Loins. There was a provision in the Scott proposal the dealt with Ridge lines about fifteen hundred feet but four hundred wide swaths along the top of the Ridge Loin and in the earlier duration of the House Natural Resources Bill. There was a lot of other language about rigid lines but all that has fallen by wayside so this currently nothing in the bill about Ridge lines and with respect to the appeals being day Novo. There's there's really misunderstanding out there. It's not a complete blank slate. The developer doesn't start at Ground Zero. The only thing that is covered on the appeal or the one or two criteria which is an appeal. So that's not the whole case all over again The district commission process. You know people come. What is this thing? All about The neighbor next door is trying to participate learn process that same time. You know it's too simplistic to say district commissions or the dry run but it isn't true that people hide in the bushes. Just waiting for appeals to strangle development The advantage to having a district commission process right now is people get up learning curve so that if there is an appeal to the informal court usually brought by the developer. Then salt of the Earth have an opportunity to decide if it's worth now ending up money to hire a lawyer in other in other words the issues are defined initially on the district commission level. And then if you WANNA go to the appeal process then so I mean I think that's a key distinction. It probably needs to be hammered home and clarified in my own mind. And maybe that some listeners. Which is that the If you're talking about an appeal on active fifty let's say let's say the contentious criterion has to do with traffic counts. Okay and the and there's a disagreement there you know. The District Commission finds makes a certain finding relating to traffic counts. And how they're going to be handled by the existing road network or whether the road network near the project needs to be expanded etc etc And that's going to go on appeal to the environmental the Environmental Court The rest of the case does not come up for appeal. Is that right. That's correct so it would be almost as if somebody were charged with six crimes and went went to the Criminal Court and when was convicted of all six crimes and wanted to appeal. One of them. the the the other crimes or the other verdicts would not be challenged right. I guess I agree. I know about that analogy but yeah that's true. That's I agree with the gist of it. Yeah I mean yeah the idea. Being that we're we are narrowing down on the on the list of stuff to be considered at the appeal level. Some of US suggested to the House Natural Resources Committee a user friendly approach to solve this problem with the pills and that is a hybrid on the record. So in other words the district commission decision itself should be given deference by the environmental court instead of starting a ground zero. Give weight to that. District Commission decision and its exhibits and build on that In the informal court instead of a blank slate that will reduce the expenses. It would speed it up. This fell on deaf ears because I said come January seventh. Everything blew up in that committee and You know I it would be good possible. Can you stick around for a little bit? John Growth for Vietnam. He's going to be joining us in the second half hour. But it might be good about some stuff back and forth between you if that's okay. That's fine all right we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go to a bottom of the hour break for some MUSC- bs news here on the Graham shown. Wd FM and am and When WE'RE GONNA come words our sponsors and when we return I'm GonNa Keep Heads Synagogue on standby air anyway. And then bring in John Groman from the Matinee Vermont Natural Resources Council and get his thoughts on all of this. We'll be back folks. They witness as the winter rolls on her on sale upstairs with warrants door all full winter clothing is twenty and twenty five percent off cozy tops. Comfy bottoms warm coats and jackets for men and women who'll promise smart will save the duck car trolley underwear meet a hat. We have skied a soukous. Poppy and more palms and beanies Galore. And Large Selection of sucks from fun to Functional Blue Cue to Dr Tub. Spring clothing is arriving. So come on down for the best one stop. Shopping reminds the almost world-famous Warren store mainstream porn village. It's the Dave Graham. Show on WBZ FM and am. We're back in my guest here. In the Studios Ed. Staticky is the Retired of active fifty coordinator for district five based in bury and the The other gas do we were bringing in telephone. I believe is John. Grossman of the Vermont. Natural resources councils and Johnny you there on the phone I am Dan. How are you doing? I'm doing well. Thanks for joining us this morning. I gather you're probably standing in a state house hallway outside of the House. What the House Natural Resources Committee? I ran back to my office. Oh okay got. My Cell Phone's not working this morning but a little bit not not not interesting for your listeners. Okay little Little Quieter in your office. So that's that's a YEP YEP and so How's it been going so far over at the House Ways and Means Committee? I think they're just GonNa you know. This is the second time they're just hearing about the bill so I think they're just learning about the bill and trying to understand so they're focused on the financial impacts of the bill. The Big One there is I understand the creation of a new state board with a budget of at least what six hundred forty thousand a year that I think. That's the estimate they came. They came out of the House. Yeah I think it's a range I I think that Yeah the committee's drill into that understands you know one of the resources that are going to be needed. We certainly Vr See believe if this is GonNa Work. It needs to be properly resourced. We need to you know. Get it right and so I think you know that's the job of the ways and means committee to understand the workload that we're asking the board to do and what resources doesn't need and the This board we're talking about now would be. Is there a name given to it yet? I believe the Bill Calls Enhanced Natural Resources Board enhanced and natural resources is not a terrific. Well we haven't enhanced nine one one board somebody Maybe we're just enhancing everything in government these days the and rb. I think it's being version. Okay well yeah. I don't know I think I think there. Maybe you have to be a little bit of a head scratching in a Scott. Skull work on that one. I'm not a marketing. Yeah Yeah I hear. Ya So I We add and I add standing. I have been talking for the first part of the show this morning. About active fifty in and of course is skeptical about some of the changes proposed particularly particularly diminished role of His former the district commissions Here in In Vermont and when somebody comes to you John Rogovin. Rc and says you know your compromise with the governor appears to diminish the ability of citizens to participate at this district level And how do you? How do you placate their concerns? Hopefully it's not placating. It's you know saying here's here's how we think that they're addressed. And so you know I I. I just like to start out by saying I mean I I ag- knowledge that concern. I think is something we wanna make. Sure we create Savino. She's goal is not to create a system that is not fair to citizens or citizens can't interact with and I've read some of the things that reading about it. And you know I I just. I have a disagreement in terms of what the impact of this bill is going to be. You know I had a lot of respect for ED and his working actor fifty but you know I hope that people can see. The reasonable people can differ. So here's how we differ so And I don't know what you're talking about because I was testifying. Yeah I don't know what it said but You know under the bill so satistics historically active fifty projects breakdown to minors and majors. I don't know Edwin through this or not and you know. Minor projects are basically projects. Don't get hearing and they don't get a hearing because they're you know deemed to be you know when the obligation to filed Not to have significant impacts or there's not significant interest and so those go through without hearing issued by the District Commission You know there's a back and forth between the coordinates coordinates of the staff person for the commission and the applicant and sometimes the public comment and say they're concerned about this or that condition could be placed in the permit was eighty percent of the of the permits and so under the bill in our view. That doesn't change right. So district commissions remained in place and they will process those minor permits. Just the way that they do now I know at his says that he thinks that is not meaningful. Or and I just. I don't see how Continuing process eighty percent of the projects. Up To district level is not meaningful. I think we'll give me an example John of of a of a project which will be considered minor and be able to go through this this type of processing eighty percents or most projects. Most of the things that go through our our our don't get here you know could be. I mean I. I've seen like so just so people know. I mean I've been on your show before but you know I've I've been a government attorney dealing with active fifty I was the chair of the Natural Resources Board. I mean you could see at amendment to an existing project right that that is minor you can see a new project. Maybe it's It has chicken and county like a new gas station. Convenience store in Williston road could be a minor right because it doesn't you know there's a lot of that type of development there right so You know even though but But a a gas station. Convenience store in You Know Greensboro. That could be major right because you know of the community and the impacts and people need to keep in mind that accu fifty only there's only a jurisdiction over the larger projects in Vermont so right now for commercial projects for example if your town has zoning and subdivision regulations it has to be over ten acres to basically trigger active fifty zoning subdivision it could be one acre so let's say for example. Greensboro doesn't have zoning subdivision and I don't know that that's true I'm just you know just for hypotheticals fake But you know rural towns like that often don't have zoning subdivision regulations on the small gas station. Convenience store would trigger active fifty. They're probably wouldn't even trigger it and logic communities but so you know and the point I'm trying to make is it depends on where the project is and you know but most of them go through as these projects without hearing and that doesn't change under the system created in the bill. What does change is for the major projects which are defined as projects that whether it's a hearing The hearing right now is held by district mission in the region in the town where the project is located and it's reviewed solely by the District Commission staff by the district coordinator could get advice from the State Natural Resources Board but it's up to them You know but it's so it's really. They're totally in control of the process. So the significant changes is that these major projects would be reviewed by this enhanced Natural Resources Board. Which would have three professional board members and the two district commissioners would join them and review the project and The hearing would still be held in the town where the project is located but there is a it's solely in the authority of the commission's anymore to review those projects they have so this is maybe where there's disagreement we think it's still a significant. Say for the two commissioners to You know be part of the decision making process I've heard in the State House. People say things like well the commission the Commission will always be outvoted because there's only two of them. The three board members by the bill does not require like the commissioners and the Board to vote in the block. You know these are human beings. They're charges actually to make decisions based on the The facts and the law and I don't know how these how people will vote right. You'd be one commissioner and three board members or any combination you know so I think one concern has been that so my concern. Is that the commissioner. The commission's power is not is not the same right. They don't have the sole authority anymore. They'll now be part of this board. So the citizen participation issue I think is a legitimate concern and one that we've been trying to address in the bill you know. We don't want to create a process at the this communist. Hybrid Board of District Commissioner and Professional Board members That is not accessible to citizens we. That's not the intent of this I. There's language in the bill that indicates the intent is for the boards help facilitate citizen participation in the process. I agree that we know that language needs to be made meaningful and come to light and it's incumbent upon As a bill moves through the processes are improvements to that language. That could be made. If this ever comes to fruition I think everybody who cares about These issues needs to you. Know the board will create rules and You know guidelines on how it's going to function and implemented the legislative intent and that needs to be bird dog so I you know I do think that it will be a more you know for the bigger applications. It'll be a formal process because we'll be hearings before the board and they'll have to create a record and then the appeal from that decision will go to the Supreme Court to be reviewed but our hope. Is that You know for majors. That maybe aren't asking tested but there's a need for hearing that there will be flexibility informality. you know there could be hearing officers used to you know basically try to facilitate disputes between neighbors? And that's the intent. You know and I so I I I I think there you know I I do appreciate that concern that Ed and others have raised about that and I just we I think the differences we think it can be addressed. We don't think that it will re that. This will this could improve actor fifteen in terms of bringing more resources to bear being some professional help to the district commissions who basically volunteers now Doing this where it can don't have to meet any specific qualifications John. I'm going to interrupt you because I want to bring a caller listener Out there WHO's Checking in with us on the phone and that is a net from Danby. I think I know in that and eh good morning in that. Are you doing doing good? It sounds like in that Smith of Vermont for a clean environment. That's correct okay. So what's on your mind citizen participation? I mean this change. I'm still waiting to hear someone say something real about what this change means. Is this idea that oh where they can work it out later. I mean the Scott Administration and entered into apparently extensive discussions. That a lot of people were included front disc excluded from it and a lot of interest were excluded from and it's a little late to be saying. Oh we'll iron out the details of citizen participation later at the District Commission right now residents of a mobile home park with a quarry proposed next to them can show up at the district commission. They don't have to file any paperwork. They can get party status. They can participate in the hearing. They can be heard. The decisions include comments. You know based on their comments this new proposal. The Ledge Council Stafford told judiciary yesterday was modeled on the PC. And I spent ten years helping people participate at the PSE. Dave will probably recall. I was brought up on criminal investigation for helping people do that. You're you're dive. Believe under recipes for Awhile for acting with acting as a lawyer without a license helping dissipate in the regulatory process. And now they're creating the same process and what it will mean is people will have to fill out forms. We'll have to file paperwork to do all kinds of things that the average reminder does not have time for and this this whole idea is being sort of suppressed as oh well. We'll just deal with that later. Sorry right now. We have a system. That's accessible to the average reminder or it's efficient it gets the voices heard and this new process is basically a gift for rich people in their lawyers. John Roman is this a gift for rich people in their lawyers I I don't agree with the net and I don't we're not saying what else will just work it out later as I said you know. There's language in the bill that directs the Board to facilitate citizen participation. I agree could be stronger. I agree we need to do whatever we can to make sure that that intent is affected. This is not is modelled on. I don't know what the Legislative Council said but I guess it's modeled on the PC to the extent that it is a professional board. We don't have too many professional boards in in the state but it has really different jurisdiction than the PC PUC complicated jurisdiction having to do with energy system reliability and rates as well as now citing projects you know this will be the active fifty criteria the commissioners will be part of the process I just don't it's not designed to be the PUC and that is not the intent. But as I said I think the concerns that an and others are are raising or legitimate concerns and not just concerns they were. They were issues that we brought to the committee that everybody who testified to that community including district coordinators district commissioners said. Don't do this lawyers very few lawyers. We were all ignored. This process was baked and was put into play without any input from the stakeholders and it got out of committee with nothing in it. That ref recognize the interests of anyone other than Vr. See Scott Administration that is completely inaccurate. There if you look at the record and go ahead Dave and anybody who's listening does go click on the House of Committee website. It was a mix. There are people who support the proposal that aren't Vr See There are people who oppose it and raising legitimate concerns about proposal. We wanted to be a part of it. This bill could have been a good bill. Had there been a legitimate process. Has the we have all been blindsided on the first day of the session? Back into the discussion here. One thing David isn't or and It's just beginning and I don't know where this bill is going to end up or how how it's going to end up and you know so. I mean the process is one of the middle of the process and people are appropriately expressing their opinions about the bill and the concerns. And I think that's what's happening so I mean it's you're having the show that people are commenting I just. I just think that record doesn't reflect that like no one else supports this proposal. I agree that there's a mix some people very much opposed as and there are people who support it and we're trying to work through these issues. I mean that's what no one else supported it. I'd say limited as what I heard you saying in a final deal. There is no recognition of anybody's input other than what was presented by the Scott Administration. This is politics. This is not good legislative accurate either because there were significant changes to the bill. That were made. That aren't weren't did not reflect. The you know the proposal that was submitted there weren't provisions that were taken out ever significantly altered. The committee clearly made it. Things could have been added to enhance the okay. I get back and forth. I mean basically in that you feel like you were cut out of the process and developing. The proposal landed on July on January seventh of this year. And let me ask you. Let me bring you had standing. Back into the discussion here because maybe provide somewhat of a of a in between point of view or something here but ed. How did you see that? Did you think that there was Insufficient input from others into the pro into the process at this point given this fairly fairly heavyweight proposal from both ESPN the and the Scott Administration got dropped at the beginning of January well to the credit of the house. Resource Committee turned into never ending streams of testimony. And so if you put it on the bathroom scale everybody had an opportunity to have a lot to say but I could not a committee yet is it. It is out of Committee House attribute going to pass it out last Thursday and now in ways and means right okay says quote unquote possession of it but just for Revenue Stream. Okay and that's interesting there too. Because did it stop at appropriations? I or not yet not yet but my point and had a long way to go. I mean that's the point I mean and you know it's not. The process is not even on the House floor and who knows when it gets to the House floor when what what what the bill in the Senate is coming from this I've heard that the Senate is very unhappy. It's taken the house so long to get a bill over that this is basically a two year process and I think they had hoped that the bill would have passed out last session and they would have this session to do it And so it's you know they're running out of time. They've got the global warming solutions. Act coming over to them. They've got a lot of heavy lifting to do on on other bills and this is a big bill with massive changes and so I'm not hearing that the Senate has A very good feeling about it. Well of course could become a sort of a bargaining chip at the end of the session. You never know if the If the Senate wants the global warming Solutions Act maybe the Senate's going concern and that's why does of us who are feeling. Shut out of what what's happened so far. I mean if if this committee had been able to start where they left off in the last session. I believe they would have had a bill out in a couple of weeks. We would not be in the position. We're in right now. Where we're trying to have to scurry to to salvage the best thing about active fifty. Which is the district commission process and Build on that and instead we're having to to really be concerned about this thing just getting rammed through the way it is with with a lot of expense to the state that has not been well estimated and a lot of added expense to the applicants and to the intervene irs. I in this new process. This is all about money and it is A full employment Bill for lawyers didn't that's what they get and then I'm GonNa let you go because they're going to get another call another caller in here what's bringing four from east current Good Morning Forbes. I had the pleasure talk speaking numerous times within day he owned my home and and I act to fifty came out basically From a problem down in Dover and Wilmington Where unscrupulous developers would come in and buy a three hundred Acre farm up and divided into a quarter acre lot and the select boards? That are townhomes. Didn't have any zoning. So he put together at ten point quite comprehensive guideline guideline. I say it was never in his terms wanting to be legislation but a good guideline for towns had was only what we've how we've ever come to this situation. This way begun we The little person who doesn't stand a chance anymore. We're moving decision making away from the legislative body into boards and bureaus that looks quite lucrative to me but only by the person who's trying to build something or do you mean a person who has concerns about fifteen thousand dollars and permit for ten thousand dollar job is just Taking it completely out of his realm or or chance. I don't like a lot of other people's don't look. We've come a long way baby all right. Thanks for the call for free just address a couple of things. She went so So you know Num- number one. You know. I think you know we we all. We did speak to lots of different people about the bill including legislators and we you know as we at the proposal I should say and and we all on the way you know we queried you know whether or not you know this would be helpful to them and it's not it was never intended to be. You know it it. We goes into the process and they take it in and do with the proposal. Would they see fit? And that's what they've done. The bill that's come out is not exactly the proposal nor would anybody expected to be right. I mean of course it's GonNa Change and so I think the idea was to facilitate the process the other point. I want to make that and I've heard different things about this but in this this this argument is really perplexing to me is that there's a lot of other provisions in the bill. We've only been last time. I was on. We talked about this process provision. I like to come on next time to talk about the other provisions where we've been fighting for For eight years now to put forest protection criteria into the bill and Habitat Protection Criterion to act to fifty. That doesn't exist now. I think they're strong week. I don't know how they could be characterized as week. We're trying to expand jurisdiction for the first time to address these issues Is it a perfect expansion of jurisdiction You know probably not but you know it's an it's an it's it's. It's a way for the first time to try to address development you hear from the prior caller this people on all sides of this debate people who you know. I gleaned from the call think actually fifty is is is to you know doesn't like active fifty and the review and the cost and whatever and we think active fifty has had tremendous benefits Vermont environmental provisions that we're putting in the Jerry. Andrus sexual changes will strengthen it further. So it's a complicated bill. Overall point protection humour discussion to come on his complicated bill. John Grogan I gotta go but I appreciate you joining me this morning. Do this again sometime soon. Are More than nothing. Volts and Stanek. thank you for coming by this morning former active fifty commission mission coordinator. And we're going to go top of the hour break. Cbs News as the winter rolls on. We'RE ON SALE UPSTAIRS WITH WARREN store all full winter clothing twenty and twenty five percent off cozy tops company bottoms warm coats and jackets for men and women. Cool promise smart will save the Duck Cari strong underwear Mita hat. We have skied. Shoot us. Popu and more palms and beans Galore and a large selection of sucks from one to functional blue cue to Dr Tom. Spring clothing is arriving. So come on down for the best one. Stop shopping in Vermont. The almost world-famous Warren Store Main Street Marin village it's the day Bram wd well. We spent the first hour talking about act to fifty and proposed changes to that fifty. Euroland US law here in Vermont and lot of the second hour. We're going to be talking about farm issues especially Biosecurity and dairy herd health but Wanted TO INTERVENE INTERJECT. Inter player something with a little bit of a conversation. By last night's democratic debate it was quite an rollicking time there On the on the debate Involving six candidates for the Democratic nomination for President and joining us on the phone we have one of our CBS. News correspondent Steve Futterman to talk about what what went on in Las Vegas last night. I don't think it's staying in Vegas happens in Vegas gets broadcast around the country in this case. Around the World Steve Futterman. Thank you so much for joining me this morning. Where he today with you. And so. Who's the big winner? And who was the big loser last night? Would you say well right now? Remember these are these are comments. We sometimes we'll revise weaker to when we see the totality of what happened here. But based on the early analysis I think Bernie Sanders probably was a winner. Last night I think Bloomberg was a loser although not eight total loser. Those are the basics. Right now I think Joe Biden had a good debate. Does it make any difference? They'll not sure moveth. Warned had a good debate. Sin Thing for her big Amy Klobuchar and a tough night. She was She and Pete Food is just roll going after each other back and forth all night decent night but that would by the migrate for basically all of them. Yeah I I'll tell you I give. It sounds like I give a harder grade to a Bloomberg that you do. I think the thing was a disaster for him especially when Elizabeth. Warren asked him that question. Are you willing to Ford essentially release from nondisclosure agreements All of the women who have sued you over time for harassment or other misbehavior Apparent apparently none of none of the rise into like a Harvey Weinstein level or anything like that but still some pretty obnoxious behavior on the part of this corporate titan in New York Being disrespectful and bullying to his employees and so on but based on on their on their gender and So they all they're all assigned these nondisclosure agreements. They get some money in exchange for doing so and the question came from Elizabeth. Warren I thought I thought it was a great question from her last night. And then Joe Biden and others piled on but essentially Mr Mr Bloomberg. Will you release these women from their nondisclosure agreements Boy was he on the spot with that. Of course the demerit he said no basically so yikes yeah. It was a very awkward moment. Where aren't for two three minutes? And then after Elizabeth Warren Has her say it was almost like a little tag team wrestling. She slept handle. Joe Biden not really but Biden over and he had some things to say as well this We knew this was going to come up. there is new. No good answer. I believe for Bloomberg but it was a better way to deal with it than he did last night. We have solved everything no not even close but the way he handled last night was almost to just rejected and not understand why there seems to be concerned about this. You you know what actually struck me as a little bit. Reminiscent of twenty sixteen. When when Hillary Clinton when gave speeches to Goldman Sachs six-figure speaking fees and then wouldn't release their contents and there's this issue of transparency with people. Who are kind of you know in into one percent? Are they willing to are? They willing to disclose stuff to the other ninety nine percent and and I think the failure of Mrs Clinton to do that was really damaging to her campaign. I and I think this is a this is a big blow to to Bloomberg got it strikes me I mean maybe I'm wrong about this but I just. I feel like this is another area where you know he. He's he's on the inside of a whole list of transactions that nobody else can get in on. Yeah I think this potentially is worse for him than the Clinton things with the Wall Street people because there was no suggestion that she did anything wrong. They're just by the fact that these nondisclosure agreements were signed there is some tacit understanding that there are maybe not anything long but certainly accusations of wrongdoing involved in this story so I think this one is actually worse than the Clinton situation for years ago that you raise you you. You make a really good point. There is that element that extra element of actual alleged wrongdoing which was not there in the case of these speeches. Goldman Sachs. Does he just think that anybody's giving speeches to Goldman Sachs is up to no good? I don't know but I I nothing really nothing. Really the base on every came out so who knows but I but I want I. I wondered also whether you thought that I mean my sense of Bernie Sanders performance. Was He kind of just held his own. He didn't really Didn't really gain a lot from this but he all he also didn't lose. Anything in is the front runner right. I guess that's what he wants right. Exactly I'll listen. There was the issue of electability when they talk about socialism socialist Democrat. That is not good but listen. That is part of the Bernie Sanders package so When it split up If it's something that you're going to expect I think was not necessarily good till him in the long run short term. Don't know if it's had much effect If he comes out of Super Tuesday as it was a big win it may be maybe very tough to stop him from eating loving nation so people images beating up on Amy Klobuchar are for not remembering the name. The name of President Lopez over our Mexico I in interview with the Other Day and and Elizabeth Warren Jumps in and comes to to the defense of amy closure. What did you think of that exchange? I found it was awkward and strange that people who was giving so incensed that she could not remember the name It was one of those where you know. I make a decision on my own. Saint you can give her a break. It's drought-like he is as well known as Justin Trudeau or lighted mirror. Putin Probably would be best if she knew his name but she didn't and he just sort of move on from there. I was surprised that people church made such an issue of it. Not Saying he was wrong. What he said but still was surprised. He made such an issue about it. I'll tell you there's somebody who's posting online the other day. A common along the lines of you know to be fair. We're all the other candidates asked to put on the spot. What the name of the current president of Mexico was and and I responded to that by saying well if they haven't made asset I bet you they're standing in front of a mirror going Andres Manuel Lopez overdose or. There's there are a lot of countries out there a lot of countries that the US has relations with. Are you going to ask them if they remember the name of some hot bed? Country where suddenly in the Middle East Do you know the head of state of some small parts which can be very important in the oil Struggle that we are the fight for Power and Natural Resources so I just did find that surprised that That she was really killing their attack from from the Buddha. Jj I was surprised at the question from might leave univision was. She seemed to be quite taken back that she didn't know the name of the Mexican prison as well. My personal opinion there but well. I think that's GonNa have any impact in November helped talking about G. Remember that moment overcharge probably have any impact at all you know. I actually thought that Budapest Budapest Buda Jones. Last night was You he was taking a lot of swings at people and not all of them connected that. Well I mean I. That was the difference between him really. I Don and Elizabeth Warren who when she took a swing at somebody it really seemed to connect. I thought we had some good points especially going after standards You know this whole issue of of his extreme views compared to the mainstream the moderates It's something that needs to be brought up. I think the Democrats feel that way and At least helpless and he was willing to bring it up and I thought those were good points to bring up made that much difference but Bernie Sanders do aides to raise His his voice and just deal frankly with do his policies have a potential downside when it comes to general election in November off the meal people in the Mid West. He'll fly over country as recall. It's hard is going to be comfortable with a man like himself as a socialist. It could be very tough. And everything else of the asked me. Very Frank is their vulnerability. Trump wants to use that as an attack to using the term socialist socialist mixed into the word Communist. Wants the while as well. Yeah I think it does I think Sanders does have some potential vulnerability there. I don't think he wants to address it but it might be better if he did. Well I haven't seen on this show for a while. I thought Sanders actually would do well to say that. What he's really after his a more ethical capitalism amore responsible capitalism more and more sustainable capitalism more humane labor friendly you fly the adjectives and then and then challenge other people say so. You don't agree with me more ethical. Or more sustainable. I don't know whether that would be if he gets the nomination. Believe me This is GONNA be Donald trumps favorite words in the Campaign Socialist Socialism. He will use that as much as he used. The word footage four years ago. Yeah Crooked Hillary and Socialist Socialist Bernie or whatever. Yeah Steve Futterman. Cbs News thank you so much for joining worry. I always appreciate it. Great talking to you. I'll give you a bit of a Can't I've been told that it's very possible that Mr Sanders will be? Maybe this is known by Everyone Vermont right now but very likely he will be in Vermont on Super Tuesday which is going to be probably a very big night firm so the celebration for the Sanders campaign officially not a hundred percent that they're likely to be in Vermont on Super Tuesday. Good to know. Thank you very much for that. On Thursdays in our second hour of the Dave Ramsey show we like to run segment? We call seed sue society. It is organized with the help from the College of Agriculture and life sciences at the University of Vermont. We have someone from that college as guest typically on many of our many words seats to society segments and sure enough today Julia Smith GonNa be joined in a she is a PhD research associate professor in the UEM Department of Animal and Veterinary Sciences. We're going to be talking about Heard Health and biosecurity on Veron's dairy farms Also joining us as a dairy farmer from Chester Vermont down. The southern part of the State Lisa came in is the founder of the Jersey Girls. Dairy and I'm thinking the Jersey probably refers to the cows on the farm there so Lisa and Juliet. Thank you very much for joining me this morning. Dave to be here. This is Julie. Hi and listen to at least let me start with you. Are these in fact Jersey. Cows evoked down there in chester. Yup Jersey girls dairy because it relates to everybody. I grew up in New Jersey so I tell everybody from the state of and the girls are from the Iowa. Okay all right nice meeting of meeting of the minds or something in there in in Chester Vermont. Which is lovely town? I I liked gesture a lot. It's a it's a great place. People are wonderful here and How many do you have there? Lisa Between Twenty and twenty five Jersey. So is this operation. Basically Right Yep. Are you doing it organically or is it a conventional farm Well kind of neither Kind of do my own thing Basically free range CAL comfort oriented rotational intensive greasing disease-free concerned. So you must have some some special thoughts and concerns and challenges in your style of farming related to bio security. Is that correct absolutely? It's my number. One priority is to keep the healthiest hurt. I can keep so that my product is the healthiest it can be. I want to bring in Lisa into the into the. I'm sorry Julie Smith into the conversation here Julie. You're one of the things I suspect you do. People in your your Organization do for sure is to go out and advise farmers on the In the various techniques of keeping their herds healthy and safe and Avoiding any any threats to that What about a small farm? That is That sounds like a a as Lisa. Says she kind of goes her own way here to some extent What sort of advice share with folks like that? Sure Dave will. The importance of our security is is that everyone wants to keep their animals healthy and it doesn't matter what size the farm is or what kind of animals are on the farm. So bio security practices are are designed to help prevent the introduction of disease causing organisms. You know these microbes whether their bite bacteria viruses or parasites and if they happen to be on the farm to help minimize their spread on the farm and our large farms and small farms as susceptible to the same kinds of Of disease threats or are there different things that are more of an issue Depending on the size of the farm maybe even the breed of cattle. Well it's more related to the species of animal in terms of what types of these threats were worried about And and it depends on how the farmers managed So one of the key ways that diseases can come onto farms is through animal introductions so farms that have more purchases of animals or they have animals. They're bringing in for breeding purposes. Or maybe they're showing animals that are mixing with animals from other farms those introductions or returning animals that pose a greater risk because they can be carrying diseases and parasites with them. What are some of the key diseases that are most worried about on raw dairy farms? Well I can't say from the fiber perspective. What's the disease that they're most worried about right now? Is that a disease that I have spent a lot of time talking with farmers about and I'm quite involved with the state program about controlling a disease called Yonis Disease and this is a a contagious disease. It's a slowly progressing very chronic disease that affects the intestine of primarily cattle and other ruminant animals And it's partly because of this slowly progressing nature of the disease that it's so hard to control because animals can be infected when they're very young and they don't show signs for two for maybe ten years. Wow an all all of their time. Because it's contagious. They could actually be spreading it before it's noticed. Well they don't start spreading right away but they can start to shed the organism four before we know that they are shutting it so The tests aren't perfect So it it can be and that can be expensive Can Be hard to know what the actual status of an individual animal in the herd is when you when you do you actually go out and travel around and meet with farmers on their on their places. I I do. I do a lot less often than when I was fully with extension at the university but I do get out on farm at least once or twice. A year usually related to Talking with people about their Yonis Management and the other era the other health problem I hear about among cows and mastitis. Is that contagious does. That's right that way or is that a Sort of very localized thing. Sure well in terms of cattle diseases. Mastitis is probably the most economically important disease that farmers deal with And there are contagious and non contagious types of mastitis And some respond better to antibiotic treatments and others so it. It really is important for farm to understand what types of pathogens. They're they're dealing with in terms of infections and Lisa came in the Jersey girls farm down in Chester Tell me what you're what do I? What would what Ki- what diseases to keep you up at night? Not personally but I mean among your cows honestly none. I've got this place lockdown. Pretty Tight With a lot of help from Jewish. She's been coming here for way over a decade possibly going on two decades So and I like I said I have a closed. Hurt him very conscientious about not letting animals mix With outside animals I don't really have any diseases here. MESS MESS. Status is one. You can get anybody can get mastitis. It doesn't have to be introduced by another animal. It just is a thing But we probably have maybe two cases of mastitis year. That's pretty small number. I mean that has a lot to do with animal care and cleanliness. And stuff like that right right now in the case of Your your lockdown techniques. Talk a little bit about what some of those are just means. I don't go out and buy other animals and bring them in My animals don't leave the farm and then come back if I sell an animal it it does come back here Okay Okay and so Do you ever feel like there's a downside to that in other words let's say you want you know you might want to bring in Let's say one of your One of your existing animals. retires from active milking or or or passes dies and and And you feel like Like to replace that animal because I want to keep up by my supply milk. Yeah like most farms. I raised Heifer Calves for replacement animals. So so it's all really new. Keep it right there Right there on the farm the whole evolution of heard basically I really do. Because there's lots of stuff out there that you can bring into a heard that you're never gonNA be able to get out and I just don't WanNa take that chance and do you wouldn't talk with other farmers defined that that's a pretty common approach about all this or what you're saying Depends on the farm. There are some that are more worried about stuff like that than others. Lots of farms do raise their own replacements. So that they don't wind up in the position that they have to go bring animals and not sure what they're gonNA wind up bringing in Because a lot of times Jewish said you can't tell an animal has something and the tests aren't perfect and are expensive and just a big risk. Yeah I I mean I suppose if you really feel like you can keep keeping all lockdown as you the phrase your phrase I guess that sounds like a pretty solid strategy again. It's worked for you for years now. It does work for me and like when I go to sell animals. I can tell people you know were certified by the State is the only three hurt and all that stuff so if people wanna buy animals for me they can be pretty certain that they're not gonNA bring something onto their farm which is another way to do it like go to specific farms. You know have certifications if you need to buy animals. Don't just go like to an auction because you have no idea what you're getting there. Yeah and and I would. I would imagine that That that that is fairly risky. A risky proposition You're you're the Milky. Make at the farm there girls in Chester Where does it end up usually? Where does it go? I sell a lot of raw milk. I have a very strong customer base for the raw milk and then I sell to cheesemakers. I felt of woodcock farm cheese and Crowley Cheese. Okay so you have a a good lineup of clients buying your product. Basically it sounds like it. It's all people that are concerned with the highest quality milk to make our products with. Yes sure makes it all it all makes sense to me We are Fast approaching the bottom of the hour which means that we go to a a a one minute Cbs News update couple words from our sponsors here on the day Graham. Show wd EV. And want to continue this. This conversation with Julia Smith and Lisa came in Julia's The University of Vermont's Department of Animal and veterinary sciences and Lisa is farmer. Chester Jersey. Girls Fire. So let's do that. Let's go to a break here on the day of grab show. Wbz FM and am and will be back in just a couple of minutes Virginia to talk about her dairy herd health advice security and those good things will be back shortly folks as the winter rolls on who are on sale upstairs with worn store all full winter clothing his twinning in twenty five percent off cozy tops comfy bottoms warm coats and jackets for men and women who'll promise smart will save the duck car trolley long underwear Mita hat. We have Skiba soukous popular and more Homs and beanies Galore and a large selection of sucks from one to functional Blue Cue to Dr. Spring clothing is arriving so come on down for the best one stop. Shopping in. Vermont Almost world-famous Warren store mainstream porn village newsradio. Wd FM and am now back to the Dave Ramsey show. We are back in. My guests are Julia Smith. She is An animal scientists at the University of Vermont and Lisa came in is the farmer at the Jersey Girls Farm in Chester Vermont. And we're talking about dairy herd health biosecurity how to keep your cows healthy basically and Lisa noting that You've been involved in in this effort for a number of years and there are a lot of discussions nationally and internationally about the whole subject of biosecurity on our farms One one item. I read indicated that Australia actually has quite a robust program On this in this field whereas the US does not as much What is what does Australia doing. The United States is not doing and should the United States get more aggressive Well I don't know a lot about Australia but They definitely Encourage farms to pay attention and care about the biosecurity of their animal's Because there's some diseases that can spread rampantly and then you're a heck of a time getting it back under control right So United States generally food agriculture. I'm pretty disappointed in the United States but anyway and Vermont in specifically needs to step it on helping farms maintain their biosecurity and do the help with the testing. And all that Let me ask you. What is your mind needs to do. One of the top two or three things that Vermont where Vermont needs to step it up. Well like New Hampshire New Hampshire. The state goes and test all. It's dairy cows. Every animal in the state gets tested for three or four diseases. I think every two maybe three years I forget the exact amount But stay takes care of it. It's not the burden of the farmer. If the if the animals just test positive or they put down. I can't answer that and I'm guessing it depends on what it is tested positive for right okay. The Yeah I mean there are some diseases where you pretty much have to do. The others ISIS SPO-. I suppose that are considered to be perhaps short-lived or whatever now It will and and this this rayner testing that the state and half dozen Vermont does not Is that an expensive thing. Or is that something that is a fairly easily manageable cost? Most of them are fairly expensive because a lot of them have to be Administered by a veterinarian. So there you have the expensive that as you know dairies not in a good position to take on any extra expenses. These days it is. It is a struggle and What else aside from testing is are there other techniques or things that are being done in other states or countries where the Vermont could again easier phrase? Step up Well there's always ways to step up but I would say that's a pretty big one because if you don't know what you have you can't deal with it right and you can't dame stranded in other areas is one that Leeson. I've been involved in the unions program. There used to be federal and state support to help farmers work with veterinarians to develop plans and to do some testing and those funds have have gone away. And so that's been a real challenge for continuing Some of those programs when the farmer has to bear those costs. Yeah when I got into the Program. It was the call. It was free it. It was the cost of not following me and now I have to pay for it annual expenses that for you Lisa Julie. I don't know so it's in the range of two to three hundred dollars for a small herd like Lisa's. And if you have more animals you need to do more testing so that gets expensive in a hurry. Right that that that would add up for sure listeners. Out there to four four one seven seven. Seven is a call in number here for the Day Graham. Show in wd EV FM and am. And if you have any questions or comments you would like to make Ask Her or make about Dairy herd health though we have a couple of experts on the on the line right now here on the Nave Graham Show and It's a great opportunity to to get your questions about this realm. Answer or make a comment that you would like to be heard by a Vermont. Dairy farmer Jersey girls from there and Chester And or the University of Vermont Department of Animal Science and the person of Julie Smith and Now let me ask you Julie if I could D Do. Do you feel like Vermont is Doing everything it can at this point given budgetary constraints and so on or the specific areas where Vermont needs to improve and could be improving said set a goal the end of the year. We WANT TO GET X. Done by then. I think it's hard for small state meaning estate with small population to fund all the programs that we really want And so I think the emphasis has to be on supporting educational programs. It would be great to have more extension specialists more folks who are out in the field providing education helping farmers assess what their risks are helping them to assess what steps they could take what. What's practical to implement in? Their situation won't cost that much but could actually have a significant return to them. It's the people providing information and helping farmers make good decisions. That aren't selling product that I think really could help our situation in terms of health. The Those let's go to some specific steps that farmers needed to take What what Give some examples of sort of bio security best practices Julie if you would sure and I'm going to start by saying I hope. Everyone visits our new website. We have a website at healthy agriculture. Dot Org that is a hub of resources about bio security for all kinds of farmers whether you've got poultry beef dairy Pigs you name it We've we have information specific to different species and then the main things that people need to to be I would say organizing their thinking around when you're talking about biosecurity and those are the activities around prevention detection and Response And so it's the prevent prevention side that we really focus on with bio security. Because we don't want to be bringing in the problem in the first place and then there is the the aspect of what some people call bio containment where okay so we know. We have a disease. How do we minimize? How do we keep it from spreading to more animals in the herd So it depends a little bit on the type of disease that we're dealing with. When we're working with farms on your knees management plans where focused on all of the opportunities for been manure contamination to spread for minority to contaminate feed for minority contaminate water for minore from adult animals to come near young animals. Because they're the ones most susceptible to picking up the disease So we we walked through and look at each area Could in a way we look at it from age groups of management and think through. Okay so how? How clean insist area? How Cleans the water? How CLEANS THE FEED? Are these animals mixing at any point with older animals and then walk through? Okay so what can we do to reduce that contamination? We have a listener online. Keith is calling for Brookefield. Good Morning Keith. Guys the morning. What's on your mind. So just a comment I own a large scary firm here Phil Vermont. And one of the things that we've done It's is for biosecurity as just do a really really good job with all our heart. Health management activities and. We're what you would call a coast hurt. So we're not purchasing any animals And and we've we've had a lot of the diseases that You guys are speaking about. And they've they've all all disappeared just for that simple black then that's a An sounds like progress to me. It's definitely total whole progress But Anyway yes so. Thank you for that already. I want to congratulate you. Keep them and they didn't tire dairy industry in Vermont to the extent that we are making progress on this stuff. I mean it's sometimes Just a nice thing to I. I course cover a wide range of topics here on the on the day. Graham show wd. And and I I when I hear about somebody actually addressing some issues. It was bigger or more of a problem ten years ago than it is now. I kinda have to pause for a moment ago. Let's ask gratitude rate. Yeah I believe probably less than a at least for us or much less of a problem than it used to be There's a lot of good state employees speakers. Today that helped educate us and continue to feel with Any problems that we have and It's nice to have those guys on our back pockets here. That's great. Well that's good to hear. Thank you for the call Keith. I really appreciate that kind of Jewish miserable UVM's Department of Animal Science Animal and veterinary science. Warm the cockles. That's great to hear in the space. Have a great family. Actually hosted breakfast on the farm Was it just last year keys and it was just really great to let people see what they're doing. They're yeah that's that's That is that's a nice thing where you're you're able to get out in and go visit with folks and and see what they're up to you out there so talking to me a little bit about about the The degree to which UVM extension in particular but The the overall staff there at the university in the agricultural related fields are able to get out there and work you know on the Firearms in Vermont with folks of getting getting the the kind of scientific and other knowledge that out into the people are actually applying it every day with their cows. I think we're really fortunate here in Vermont Dave that farmers are very willing to work with the researchers from campus and we have a lot of different types of studies that are going on. I've been fortunate in the time that I've worked on biosecurity. Both education and research programs that we've worked with farms in many parts of the state and Asking them lots and lots of questions and getting their insights about different aspects of what makes it hard. What would make it easier And just getting those insights has been really really great and talk to me a little bit about Different animals and their own kind of biosecurity profiles if you would. Is this a bigger issue for cows and for sheep goats or vice versa? Or How do you sort of rank? The different species of people are keeping in terms of how much they need to spend time and money on thinking about security right. I think We we fool ourselves into thinking that maybe another species doesn't have problems Each each species has different disease issues and especially for people who are getting into You know starting a business with a species. They're not familiar with. It's really important to check in with some veterinarians. There's some extension folks and find out. So what questions do I need to be asking? Because he wanted to make sure that you're sourcing animals from herds that either are testing that they're low risk or don't have some of these key diseases So that you can make sure you're bringing in the healthiest animals possible. Lisa was really really fortunate when she started her that she brought in really healthy animals and so she's been able to maintain that and I can't tell you how rare that is so it's it's more often that we have someone who's like Keith. Seeing that Oh we have to do something different. We have to close things down and really get on top of managing things. Well if you don't have them to begin with your animals just are a whole lot healthier and it's a whole lot easier to manage them. Yeah I would imagine so Lisa. How long have you had your heard there? There's girls dairy turned twenty last October. Second Well Happy Twentieth. Belated happy twentieth birthday to the farm. And and and we're did you get your your initial Your where did you get your cows? Yep So when I started by fire. I've researched where I was going to buy animals. I knew I wasn't going to an auction or just out there by an animal's I researched where to go. I went and visited the farms. I went and talked to the farmers I made sure I saw all their testing all their milk tests and everything so I wouldn't bring you know start out with problems from the get-go because that's not a good way to start out new So I got most of my beginning. Heard from a farm called Bali Brook farm up in Danville Habit. Really good farm Jersey heard and I got some from Spring Brook Farm Down South here in reading. I see okay so all all within Vermont and and brought him down to your got him going and here. You are twenty years twenty years in jail later. Time flies when you'RE MILKING. Cows talk to me a little bit if you would Lisa about About your use of vaccines and kind of how that compares is that. Is that a bigger and more important tool or about equal or not as important as the sort of sense of of almost quarantine you have for your cows there I would say it's I would say it's pretty equally important. I mean what's the best way to reintroduce in erotica disease in an area rate stopped vaccinating for it However some of these diseases especially Yonis we've been talking about. There is no vaccine for so that you have to manage you know manage your way out of or whatever Because if there is no vaccine. That's your only option right okay and then with the Onis I mean that is that is that pretty much is that is that your biggest worry or do you. Also worry about other things as well me. Personally I don't really have too many words because you tell me earlier things are cruising along very in very good shape there. Yeah we don't have a lot of challenges to the cows 'cause we keep them at a at a minimum on purpose But yeah there's there's definitely diseases out there that are scary And everybody should be worried about. Their Prevention I again I think the state of Vermont could do a little bit more to help out I do sell a lot of raw milk. Here so The State Law says I have to test my animals for certain diseases One of which has TV which doesn't have a vaccination but the other ones Russillo sus which does have a vaccination program so but what the state has done with. Its regulation is kind of pushed farmers into stopping vaccinate brucellosis because we have to test them whether we vaccinated or not and it's really expensive so farmers are choosing to stop vaccinating to make up for the extra expense of being forced to test. That dot is a bit of an maybe unintelligible con. Unintentional consequence of regulation that the state made that they are now kind of setting up the situation. They were trying to prevent well anyway. We we have a listener calling in. Let's go to Fred in newborn Fred. I I've clicking truck would be cost effective. Komo news transportation costs and we have crush vegetables year L. I. Vertical truck farming off our topic today. But Lisa actually let me ask you in addition to your dairy herd. You do other kinds of farming down there. We have a flock of leading up. What am I are or that sort of thing? That no veggies so fred. I think he got call back when we got a veggie farmer on the on the show that ask about vertical truck farming all right there. You Go Fred is a frequent caller that show the oftentimes introduces topics. I wasn't expecting. When has just one of the funding bumps in the road about four wheel it out in the woods or something when you're on live radio sometimes and Dave biosecurity does apply to crops too? So maybe you can add that to a segment there. There's a there's a todd elaborate debatable. what what are the prime biosecurity thoughts about crops about vegetables or other people growing crops. They have to worry about diseases and pests to and there's whole organizations around crop protection right what you use. What what Chemicals Practices? You know so. They have biosecurity practices around plant production. Just like we can for animal. Production so biosecurity security is is really broader than just lifestyle. That's that's interesting. I mean I suppose if you're growing if you're growing some kind of vegetable and you bring in a whole bunch of starters there Infested with some certain kind of pastor whatever you didn't have on your on your property before guess what. He's just introduced something. You may not have wanted to introduce so that that would be that would be a concern in something so for folks to think about At our website right now healthy agriculture dot. Oregon's just focus on animals but we are hoping that will get additional funding so we can extend that out to the whole crop and plant site of agricultural operations as well you know and and it's really I think I think it's a good thing for farmers to think about it for others. Who are who obviously eat. Eat The produce and the meat and dairy products so on from farms to think about from time to time. Just how well are we doing? In terms of managing our farms The health of the crops and the and the animals we growing on our farms. I mean it. It's gotTa be a big concern not just economically for farmers but for the overall food supply. Exactly and we're expecting a pretty small percentage of the population to grow all the food. So the more we can convince people that helping. Those farmers implement goodbyes. Security's better off. Everyone will be alright. Well I think he you know. I actually think that. That's a good note on which to end our discussion today and I Julia Smith of the University of Vermont Department of Animals Animal Veterinary Sizes. I WanNa thank you so much for joining me this morning. Good to be here and Lisa came in of the Jersey. Girls Farm in Chester also really enjoyed enjoyed talking with you and I wish you luck and disease free dairy farming for long into the future. Thank you that's the goal already. Well thank you so much. We are fast approaching the top of the hour here on the day grab show. I just wanted to mention a couple of things one. Is that Tomorrow morning on the Dave Ramsey show. We will be broadcasting live in front of the remote State House. Over Montpellier catching up with some of our legislators by what's been going on going on under the Golden Dome and Also wanted to mention our podcast. Forget if you wanted to hear this entire segment and you just tuned in the last ten minutes. So shucks I missed the earlier part. 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Election Security, The Spirit of Ethan Allen, and Climate Change

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Election Security, The Spirit of Ethan Allen, and Climate Change

"The Radio Vermont. It's the Dave Graham show on. WD It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most you. Now here's your host Dave Good morning reminded is Wednesday January the Fifteenth Twenty Twenty ides of January. I don't think we need to worry about the is in January. The only have to be where the eyes of March. So we'll get there in a couple of months. Meanwhile we do have Just launched legislative session lots of news out of Washington the houses this is Just about to move articles of impeachment over to the Senate and we may get a little bit of news on that in the second hour from one of our. CBS News Correspondents And we've got a good full shore for your wrapped around the national news though. And that is we're going to start out. With Montpellier City clerk. John Odem who's GonNa talk actress a little bit of. He's become kind of an expert on technology in elections. And today we're GonNa talk about blockchain and the use of that new technology relatively relatively new technology in elections in the In in in the latter parts of the show we're going to have some other interesting guests coming onto or scheduled to have a couple of Folks talking about the Climate Change Agenda of the Democrats in the legislature. Ben Edgeley Walsh from Vermont. Public Interest Research Group Sandra Sandra Levin from the Conservation Law Foundation will be stopping by this morning to talk to us about why they think the legislature might just Start to move on climate change. Change Related Items this year in the and then a little later in this hour. We're GONNA be talking about an interesting. Speaking of climate change are real practical. Application of efforts soclean our environment and and reduce emissions and so on the State Department of Environmental Conservation who will Be represented by Deirdra Ritzier from that department And Mike Shea the owner of the cruise ship on Lake Champlain. Known as the spirit of Ethan Allen will be joining me in the second half hour of the program around this morning to talk about a state grant. That just went to get this in the spirit of Ethan Allen some new and cleaner burning engines so We like to talk about the real practical applications of folks trying to clean up the environment and address climate change as well as the kind of theoretical legalistic stuff will later in the show from from a couple of activists who hang hang on the State House a lot on this stuff Full show for you this morning so and don't be shy about calling in and telling us Where we're we're we're being brilliant where we're being less so two four one seven seven seven is the call in this morning call in number Every morning actually This morning I WANNA welcome I. I guess John Odah as I mentioned. Is the the city clerk sitting across the table from here w the studio and Waterbury John Welcome. Welcome to the program. Thanks very much for coming by L.. Thanks thanks for having me so you put out interesting A press release last week about Using blockchain election technology. Apparently that's something you're gonNA Get ready to go look later two day later this year rather Trying to read something. Read something while I talk. Never never good idea folks great. Yeah I've got a rush right Outta here at the system of John. Is John. Tell tell us about how blockchain's works in what it is and how it applies to elections who that's a big question. It's just twenty five minutes so and I got. I've got a you know preface this Bhai saying that I'm not a blockchain expert I obviously I have some technological training and experience but blockchain is a is a is a relatively new technology and IT'S IT can be extraordinarily early complicated the way it's described the way it works. Is they call it. A distributed ledger and conceptually is a rough off roughly analogous to the technology The idea is that you have this ledger. which has your financial information on it and you have multiple all copies of it so that if someone comes in you know what I like better? The the algae of a library different libraries have multiple copies of the same book. So Oh you go into one library you find book Utara page out. You haven't truly torn page out of that book because that book exists in all these other libraries or another better analogy that I. I'm wondering if this works as well as you mentioned a ledger. Now picturing one of those red leather bound books with the green pages in it in all the numbers on the pages and so on with with some old old clerks handwriting or something in it and imagine there being an ability for Ten or one hundred thousand different people at the same time to be looking at that ledger. and Maybe even making changes ages for that In it that other folks can can see in real time as you're making the change Person Miles away can see the change your making and understand what it's about and There's a great deal of transparency and so on and that that that that is Basically thanks to digital technology that allows was this. What used to be this one ledger of the red bound book? He'll red leather bound book now to be as you put John distributed so that many any many people can look at it at the same time and realize what's happening Perhaps elsewhere in their enterprise. Where whether this is a town clerks around the state talking to the Secretary State's office in the case of elections We had a couple of blockchain aficionados come by a few months ago to talk about their business of trying to try to help the cannabis cannabis industry Sort out where it's product is where it's sourced where it's going and all of that sort of thing in this distributed ledger idea again. You could you could look at look look at it Along with you know the shipper and the and the receiver of of a package of cannabis or whatever the product is can look at it at the same time and see See Z. When you know when it's when it's coming in and where it is in the process and all of that sort of thing in my my on the right track I mean that's that's the analogy. That's built into the whole distributed ledger terminology. Yeah I mean you can imagine this information signed off on by one person and then signed off by another and signed off on so there becomes this. These layers of accountability are are very you know. They're they're stable. They're secure enough That you have you know. BITCOIN built on it. which has it's its own unique characteristics? You know on on top of that technology to to sort of self verify but it's a it's a powerful technology and so tell us about out How you see it? Applying in the world of running elections which is what a city clerk does. Well this is a this is a big topic now in election circles Because blockchain is you know it is a distributed cryptographic database basically That provides you. You know a enough combination of transparency and just dependability. That you know the secret makes all kinds of things possible awesome people go straight to elections There have been experiments with voting over blockchain's And what we are looking at. In Montpellier is a little different. This would be a blockchain system that would verify the the integrity of our voter lists Without actually really getting into and looking at those lists again we're looking at digital signatures and the analogy for what we're looking at is is more like a a tunnel You know like the big or something where you got a camera in there and information is flying by back and forth and that I camera sits in the middle of us and the Secretary of State's office and it's just verifying that all that traffic belongs there and that that traffic hasn't been it hasn't been altered if it has been altered in some way that That seems inappropriate. Or you know. Meet certain conditions Then I can be alerted. It and I can alert the Secretary of State's office so it sounds like there's There's a lot of built insecurity here. That would actually add some layers of of shoe of shorty Jordy and and integrity to which accounting it is another layer of security and I think it extremely powerful one. That would that's going to sit. Sit on top of the security the already impressive security. That secretary state has In their system so this is going to give Montiel Aaron. and IT'S A it's a pilot demonstration uh-huh of a of a new product. But it's GonNa give us Really frankly we're going to be using technology okay through a system in through a company that does technology for places like the Department of Defense so it's It's going to seriously secure our election system Stephen further our other Cities and towns in Vermont. Trying this outdoors is is my pillow. Kind of flying. Solo is at least be the state on this On this pilot early project nope it's just me. I was approached A while ago and I think my name is out there as A. I'm a certified ethical hacker so I have awesome training and interest in in security and I've spoken a lot about election cybersecurity So anyways they found me asked me if I was interested. We have to coordinate with the secretary of state in so far as you know we need to make sure that the one end of the tunnel where we're watching. The traffic traffic is is acceptable to them on that end. So that we can watch our traffic going back and forth. But it's going to be a completely montpellier driven Montpellier managed Process I see okay and will voters The folks actually showing up at the polls eater on town meeting day in March Archer perhaps in the later summer primary for the statewide elections or in the General general election and by the way the March vote also is going to be our the presidential primary here. Oh Yes oh yes and so So lots going on election wise in the city this year and Are Voters going to see any difference as they come to city hall and cast their ballots. No and I I want to be careful not to overstate this Because the because I do think blockchain gets overstated and I think it's it's possible. Utility elections is a bit overstated sometimes dangerously but this is the right tool for the right job scenario. I think this is just verifying the integrity of the voter lists okay. So we're not shaking up the system here we're essentially adding a bit more security to it. We're adding yeah. We're adding more security guards with with a particular level of of skill and the I was looking at the at the statement he issued last week Talking about your office will be extending the city's cyber security protections with blockchain technology. The pilot will be conducted with S. I C. P. A. Okay and guard time international leaders in architect thing that ever come on Trusted government systems that. I put that in it. Says are conducting Al Gore Yanks in the US as I- CPA or sick PA. Government clients included a majority of US states and and numerous US federal and local agencies. The pilot will extend the current cybersecurity infrastructure to provide assurance the integrity of my peers. Voter checklist Do you don't have any doubt about about the integrity of that voter checklist right now do you. I have no reason to I've I feel very very confident I think the whole point of having cybersecurity or any kind of security is all at all is so that you don't need to worry or that you need to worry less so And especially with something as you know. It was critical as fundamentals are elections I was GONNA say I don't think you you can have too much. I think you could have too much if it slowdown or over complicated. The process on the net could become a problem. But this doesn't this is really something that sits on top of our current process and plays Guess as sort of traffic security cops. They're so just because you're putting an extra lock on the back door doesn't necessarily mean somebody's trying to break in right now right okay okay. That's good to know And we much moment ago being a certified ethical hacker That sounds like a pretty cool title. You get a t shirt or anything to deal with. It just means I've Passed a test that demonstrates a certain degree of of hacking skills or tape they say penetration testing for for networks. It's something I don't get to very much because my day job kinda takes up all my time. Yeah it's a lot of fun. You've been to a couple of national conferences conferences on this where they actually tried to break into say election systems right and And Show where their weaknesses are. That's what the whole ethical hacking processes about from. What I understand? Yeah I'm I'm actually on the board of Advisors for the Cyber Policy institute at the University of Chicago which actually puts on what they called the voting village at DEFCON which is the Big International Hacker Convention And that's the folks you probably read about this in the press. It's it's a whole room whole setup where hackers are invited in to try to get into voting machines voting machines or brought from all over the country and we test to see their vulnerability Especially insofar as their network can get in there. Can you change election totals. Can you mess with them. So I've been involved with that the last couple couple years and it's a it's a blast and in the in the first round when this was I tried a lot of holes founder was assistant pretty solid or what. What was the general? What what kind of grade would you give? And how's that changed over time. Well that's tough because there are so many different systems used by so many different states You know some of them not so good. Good some of them quite good. I I will tell you about the the the machines we use here in Vermont These accu vote. Oh S.'s they're very old this Old Technology But in this case it's age really really works in its favour. Those things are very very hard to get into with a lot of without a lot of direct correct physical well without direct physical access because they're not network And I remember being there this last time we had a few of those open and we were looking. You know if I wanted to hook got my laptop year what could I do at a couple points. I just said you know whatever its weaknesses or challenges I would rather have this machine than in any of the other ones in this room to person. All the hackers agreed wow and and when you say they are not network that does mean that Y- you nobody can Get into the system from Saint Petersburg for instance just to name one said he might be right right. You'd have You'd have to actually go and physically plug in those things. There's a chain of custody protocol that makes that unlikely or or impossible. I don't WanNa you never. Everyone used the word impossible when you're talking about any aspect of cybersecurity even physical security. Yeah I mean But chain of custody is is Is a key term here because that actually the people who are recorded as to WHO's got control of the physical object in this case of the voting machine at the time right right and they live in the vault There needs to be you know. A couple voting officials around them Gamut so they do a pretty good job anyway I I wanted to ask you John. And you Oh you very kindly agreed. How break that this would be okay? to talk to you a little bit of Attica another conversation we had on the day Graham show earlier in the week with Senator Chris Pearson for much much hitting county who is part of a campaign to Bring about a national popular vote. meaning that the idea that presidential elections should be decided by whoever gets a majority of the votes around the country in And that the electoral college is a relic of the eighteenth century which Either needs to be the got away with completely or Actually in the case of the national popular campaign they are working on a system that would essentially get around. The Electoral College by having states states. Agree that whoever wins the popular vote. Nationally gets our electors in so if we're not You know you hope this wouldn't happen but Vermont ever ended up voting for candidate a majority of routers candidate a and but candidate b. got the national Majority than Vermont's electors would go to can and they'd be by virtue of this of this state law And the the the the hope is from the backers of this that it ends up with you we have go back to popular sovereignty or whatever where the the vote of individual people no matter where they live around the country ends up taking precedence over any any sort of state concerns on the theory that you know people were around before states actually created states and maybe therefore are at least a In some ways kind of superior a period of states are long around logger anyway senior states. Maybe that's the word I'm looking for but What do you what do you make of this John? Do you think that there is Any good reason to do this or his assist fine the way it is or where we on here. Well I mean that's a it's a big federal question federalism question isn't it It's I know you were talking about applications of technology when we were on the break and the idea that you know this was something that You know the Pony Kony Express would have to run and give the results of the election to and I don't know the technology impacts that argument so much because the technology is simply the the tool and not the job and we always have to keep that tool and job question separate so I guess in the question is what is the job. Isn't the job up to treat is not just democracy and the democratic vote but to treat all these states and continue to have all these states exist as independent independent entities in our closest we can get to the truest sense of the word state as possible so that they're interacting somehow at the same level. More is that is that a meaningless concept or concept is not meaningful enough to change the dynamic of one person one vote. Because that's that's really what we're talking about Do we want to have one person. One vote have those votes equal the same thing across the country regardless of the state. And that's where you have the electoral college change that equation. Yeah I think it's fascinating and I've had a couple emails over the course of the week from people who you didn't like my conversation with Chris Pearson very much because I mean I symbol. I'm a little sympathetic to the idea that that that somebody who who lives in New York Orca ought to have a vote which counts about as much as somebody lives in Vermont to where they live. It shouldn't necessarily Matter that much but with the card electoral college system you actually. They do have a chance for a certain votes in certain states. To kind of you know What more be more equal than others? In the old days of George Orwell. You're you're creating a crude proportionality with the way. The electoral votes are distributed. But it's still a crude proportionality. It still means that you get right down to it. One person's vote in one state is not going to be the same as in another and that that does not feel right the And yet I have. I do have some listeners. Who've of emailed me to say they they are strong advocates of maintaining The state integrity in the state sovereignty and so on and so forth and Very worried about talk about getting away from that And you know some folks I mean. I know the comedian and commentator Bill Maher occasionally gets on his campaign about trying to Do Change up the in a big way to the United States Senate because he doesn't like the fact that forty million Californians are represented by two members of the United States. Senate it and you know six hundred thirty thousand reminders are represented by two members of the United States Senate and You know I remember Dude a little tally tally. One time he was when he was talking about this a couple of years ago and And it occurred to me that the New England would be our fifth largest state if it were one st and It and it has twelve senators and and that sounds like a bad idea. I'm sure to Bill Maher and yet I noted that the last three US senators it's who had been hunting show had been Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren and Angus King on offering New England? I was wondering which one he would jettison. And so so you know kind of an interesting debate about about states rights there as well such a tough combination conversation especially in this environment where everything. Everything is so harshly polarized where the question comes down to which system gets me. My President of choice. That's too bad I I really do. Wish we could have a conversation like this and strip it of the those political considerations because frankly I do think eras change and then we could very well. Yes in the last couple of cases where the electoral college diverged from the popular majority they they elected Republicans. Okay so it looks like if you're complaining about the Electoral College you must be some kind of Liberal Democrat And yet I can imagine in in twenty or thirty or fifty years from now being exactly in the opposite situation here and then it you know again whose whose ox is getting gored. I guess is the question Or whose ox oxes getting pushed in the case of two thousand but the The you know it's just I don't know oh it's one of these sort of civics class kind of conversations. I wish we could have without it becoming so tinged with WHO's advantage so there you go yeah it's a it's a a real shame that so many so many important conversations to have our. We're wearing a point where it's tinged without as you say. Yeah John Auto is the I feel your city clerk I would say the Segue flew by and John. Thanks so much for coming by it for the ride and I really appreciate it. Let's do this again. Sounds great thanks a lot. All right you're gonNA take a break break your the Dave Ramsey show and we will be back in a couple of minutes folks. The Warren store is a warm and welcoming oasis. During the winter a woodstove is roaring the aromas of fresh made soups and our daily specials spill. The air to copy is hot in the pastries of fresh stop by for breakfast before you hit the slopes on make. Yes you're operates ski choice to relax Refu- after a day of fun on the mountain and we have a great selection of grab and go meals if you can't stay in chat but we hope that you can stick stick around the Warren Store funky friendly in almost world famous now back to the neighb- Graham show. WD FM and we're back in my guests I'm GonNa let them get settled here in the studio a little bit with the headphones and ready to go. Talk to Talk to us about a very interesting announcement this week. I saw that the State of Vermont Department of Environmental Conservation has made a rather large large grant to the To the spirit of Ethan Allen Khruschev company which which operates on Lake Champlain. And the purpose of the grant is to allow the spirit of Ethan Ethan Allen to be outfitted from what I understand with new and more efficient cleaner burning engines much better for the environment for four the carbon even footprint of of this cruise ship company. And we're GONNA find out all about it from the Owner of the Cruise Ship Company Might Shea joins me in the studio this morning. Mike thanks for joining us. You're welcome thank you for having US and dear Deirdre. Richer of the Department of Environmental Conservation also joins us this morning in the studio in D.. Thank you for coming opened by thank you. It's nice to be here and so let me find out a little bit about this. I was quite intrigued because We actually at the At the second in the second hour of the program today we're going to be talking with a couple of advocates. Working Montpellier on issues related to the environment and the climate and all that sort of thing Ben Israeli early wash out the Vermont Public Interest Research Group will become via long with Sandra Levin of the Conservation Law Foundation and those two groups have been very active on climate issues and environmental environmental issues for years. Have sued the state occasionally and so on and so forth. We're going to be finding out a little a little bit about their hopes for some pretty Pretty major environmental title and climate related legislation. That they're backing in the legislature this year and all of that theory in politics lawmaking and stuff aside is occasionally like to get folks on our air here. We're actually out there doing the real work on the on the ground and trying to make make specific changes in the way in the way things operate and in fact our our environment I've told young people that It won't be the environmental Environmental Studies Major Major. Who Will Save the world that would probably be the plumbers and electricians in the solar installers and and maybe the boat captains will find out a little bit about Boat captains from from Mike Shea. Here so Mike Talk to me. A little bit about The spirit of Ethan Allen as a cruise ship company you oppor. You're not offering this time of year. I don't think no oh nationally. We have vice but this year because it's warm. We have no ice but we shut down. We kind of go from tax day to. Halloween is kind of what we say. Tax Data Halloween so sort of horrifying on both thins frightening. Yes writing or something like that. Yeah there we go okay. So starting April ending at the end of October and In a quiet in the wintertime. How many boats do you have? Well along the way we've had four and three of them were cruise boat was an overnight cruise boat but wrong timing annette with the bad economy. But right now we just have the spirit of eastbound tree which three hundred sixty three triple deck passenger boat. Okay and so you have one boat right now and it runs and during the warmer months How many how many times a day would you set it out? normal it's Four scenic cruises an hour and a half and dinner and sunset cruise and evening a two and a half hours. Okay so there's three hour cruise in keeping with the Gillan Gillian's island tune or anything. No but we've had that theme played on that boat many times. I've been on this fear of Ethan Allen. I will say it's a lot of fun I've enjoyed and it's such a beautiful. You look at the at the adirondacks back at camel's Hump and I mean the whole thing is just it's pretty. It's a pretty spectacular experience with those haven't tried it. I recommend it and and Do you ever richer you are with the State Agency Sorry well agency. Does he have natural resources. But the Department of Environmental Conservation which is one of anr's constituent departments and You are actually Overseeing I would gather these These grants that go out to specific applications like these new engines for the spirit of Ethan Allen. Talk me a little bit about the grant program. How much is this budget? The overall in how many how many recipients are they going to be this year or whatever. Period of time applies here so our grant program receives funding. I'm from the United States Environmental Protection Agency under the Diesel Emission Reduction Act So each year we do apply for that grant from the EPA EPA They provided to assist states with developing their diesel emission reduction programs. And this year. We did Somewhere in the neighborhood of three hundred thousand dollars but each year it does change In recent years whereas we've received anywhere from seventy five hundred seventy five thousand dollars all the way up to about three hundred thousand dollars In it is dependent on the federal budget and interested in me because it looks like this year anyway. The bulk of the grant money that came down from the hey goes to this one grant. It's two hundred. What's the number two hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars so that is pretty much all of that? Three hundred thousand dollars shot at capital from the going going to the spirit of Isao Ethan Allen Company to upgrade its engines and Mike Shea with a spirit of Ethan Allen is that cover your all of your your costs are was at two. Or How's that work. No the way to grant works with me. is a fake Covers forty percent of the cost. The total cost is somewhere in a range between six hundred fifteen seven hundred thousand which being seasonal business. We could never afford that amount of money. Wow that is a lot of money. We're talking about two new diesel engines. No we're talking for diesel engines two main engines and two generators okay And the the new engines are Are Cleaner burning. We'll get to that in a moment. Actually I I I WANNA find out about about About diesel as a pollutant in and of itself in the last last year about that How does how does it compare to say gasoline or other other other possible methods of moving vote around that is a good question? reducing diesel emissions ends is One of our greater air quality challenges because diesel engines are so durable in even as emission standards for are diesel engines become more stringent In the engine technology becomes cleaner. The older diesel engines are still out there in operation so they emit large amounts of nitrogen oxides diesel particulate matter air toxics and greenhouse gases so this this grant program really provides incentive funding to turn over the older technologies to cleaner more efficient technology faster than normally would have. And how how old were the existing Mike Shea. The existing diesel engines there. Well these engines were built in nineteen nineteen ninety-seven but I'll tell you a little story about ten years ago. Had A war war veteran come on the vote and he heard the sound of the engines and a note to me he he named to me. Exactly what the engines were nicer. How'd you know that he said I was on a PT boat in the Pacific during World War? Two and I slept next to to those engines for a year so he recognized the sound. I say that because the technology in nineteen forties. I'm not sure what year he was in the war. I don't remember that but during that time. Technology for diesel. Admission was zero. I'm sure there was They were fighting a war So we inherited it engines at basically come with nineteen forty technology and what was built in ninety seven. So we're way way behind behind in terms of where we are today. Twenty twenty in this grant is accelerated us to a new level of reducing our admissions and contributing to the climate change. Wow that's kind of amazing when I think about I mean I suppose it shouldn't shock me and maybe as much as it does but the idea that you'd have similar technology in an engine sold in nineteen ninety-seven these were new engines then They were brand new but You know that they D- Detroit diesel hadn't hadn't come out with engines. That were as efficient as they are today. There's there's a we're call zero tier now they're at tier three. So there's been three jumps Shen inventory twenty twenty five plus years that gave for less less emissions the in in terms of the the emissions again. I guess Deirdre you would know a little bit more about how can can we. Can we translate this into this. Change will be equivalent to removing a certain number of vehicles from the highways of Vermont. I believe on on the application that I received from Mike Shea There they indicated that it would be equivalent to removing seventeen eighteen diesel class. Eight long haul trucks. That's that's quite an impact because those things can put out some smoke and aw you know obviously people wanna be able to do this kind of transportation both in boats and trucks All of it important to our economy and so on but if you can do it at a significantly smaller impact in terms of the initial an immediate pollution issues as well as the carbon emissions which are going to impact the environment and of course are huge concern these days? I think you are You making some progress is that that's the idea right. Yes definitely a- and Mike I'm your This were when does this work at done. Is it happening this winter. We started Right after we got at the Grant Award in terms of the planning We were awarded it in early October. Right now the crew I was talking to them. They're listening to us on board ship right now. Where are we've got all four engines out of the engine room sitting on our deck Right now the engines I tuned generators are being finished down in Georgia And they'll be put on a truck in the next two week and shipped to us about a month behind that will be our two new main engines and transmissions they will arrive at the beginning of March and they'll be able to be installed by the season opening in April. May I. We've set a goal. May I and my sales person just sold a cruise in April thirtieth so now we got April thirtieth deadline. Okay so you. We'll quite be tax day this year. You maybe take a little more time to get your taxes. Done this season start for actual cruises on Lake Champlain. And put that out there at the end of April or wars to make. We'll be ready. We've we've already committed okay. We got good strong crew. That know what they're doing. We have all the people in place so I'm one hundred percent confident. We'll be ready and are these contractors. Are Your employees or who's doing the work a combination we have some local steel people in Burlington or help us a crane. People that are helping us. We got naval architect down in Jacksonville Florida but Most of it is my guys. They're they're the bulk is right down there lifting the engines out cleaning a surface repainting And making it all better re piping rewiring will the passengers come summer Who are out for an evening cruise? Notice any difference Absolutely and in particular killer the P- The people who are at Burlington boathouse I'm so happy for them. Because of how dirty our PRI- prior engines were blown out by black black nasty smoke. These won't have any of that it's going to be a major major improvement so Yeah and sometimes we're out there and you can see that black smoke on the lake. Nobody likes it. Smells it stinks. Everybody's aware of what harm. It does so a person who runs the company. I'm proud of what we're doing. We've gone the extra mile. Yes that that sounds like again real progress and I I know I I have been up there and seen and and actually heard a little mumbling and grumbling there along the shoreline in around the boathouse. US on on the evenings. When the when the Ethan Allen Spirit of Ethan Allen is is getting going and people are like all that smoke you know CETERA and And so and understandably people concerned about this both for what. They're breathing themselves in the overall impact on the environment and this summer it's going to be a different story. Worrisome I it's GonNa be great because the people won't smell it and every I won't say everybody but most people are aware nowadays to harm. That is done and and we're correcting it or have. You actually gotten a lot of complaints to your company about the smoke from the folks around that Waterfront Burlington. We have some yes. I can read people's faces I'm standing on the shore and we get underway in the winter out of the south and it blows it right back at people standing I can read their faces. Yeah that's Ah Yeah I would imagine as the as the guy who owns the cruise ship company. That's not any fun for you. Know no we tried to start last year but there's always a A process to go through in the EPA funding and we were new to it and it took to state of Vermont to come through and and Deirdra down in her agency really was a was a supporter of wanting to project. So in terms of how the synergy happened between the State Agency and your your company Kind of who thought thought it up came to whom I well ironic. I call Deirdre and I was already on her list. She know about me and so we just formed a relationship unshipped. She kept her aware. I applied nationally and Came in fourth out of three people. Three people got to grant. I was number four data around and I was number one so it was is being persistent knowing that he was going to cost me a lot of money because I could get forty percent finding but I had to come up with a sixty percent but I knew it was worthwhile. How long have you been trying two years two years okay? Hey we have a caller on the listener on the line calling in. I should say and that is wade from correct. Good Morning Good Morning. Good morning to your guests and Both guests actually so So yes I've I've have used the Ethan Allen several times I've I've taken busloads of people to the Ethan Allen and it's always been then pleasurable experience Often on the water to get in and out of there and congratulations on your new Your grant get your diesel conversion but I was in the transportation business and still am a little bit and we we experienced a couple of phases of diesel particulate filtration systems that were mandated federally to go onto our diesel buses quitting school buses heavy over the over the road trucks medium duties and even even like like contractor. Do and I wasn't too bad if you initial problems. But two thousand ten came the next stage and if you're a commercial the operator it was a nightmare didn't know if you were going out on the road and getting I with Internet and this could have been with the bus little kids or a load of milk or propane or gasoline or anything commercial and it was a tremendous failure. Louis ask you wait. I'm trying to understand you. So you were actually what getting pulled over by like the DMV officials or we would breakdown o breakdown would be mechanical failure in these in these in these in these upgraded engines Zor upgraded from the point of view. I should say environmental Jackson's they run so dirty and so-called internally trying to clean them up on the way out of the tailpipe with the diesel particular filters EPF filter which is very expensive to replace You want to indicators on a dash he'll come up and want you to pull over for twenty not minutes and run a parked regeneration which cleans those filters basically like a it's like a pottery kiln and it has to blow that stuff out of their burn. Burn it up in in place you know in the filter and it would just problem after problem after problem to appoint a small operator that I have all gotten out of the larger bus transportation business. 'cause I just couldn't stay in it anymore so bad and it rendered those relatively new vehicles absolutely worthless in the market. I I couldn't get a guy to come up here for Massachusetts chooses to tow them to the scrap yard. Wow that's that's hopefully so. Hopefully your guest. I saw that on the news yesterday and it said four engine and they said well. That's good 'cause you'll have two or three to get back to shore but it sounds like two or generator engines. were to a running so I hopefully. The Marine engines are are better technology than they've had on the road and they've they've fixed a lot of sense then but the expense and the and the frustrations that that came to that Were insurmountable to to to continue to operate for a small operator and even the big operators they were just a safety in numbers where they could you know when Airbus quit and and stopped. You know with a busload of kids to twenty below zero. They would you know it's you would just send one as quick as you could go get him off the road and get them to school or back home. Yeah wow well. I'm sorry about your experience there. Let's let's take service managers managers and dealerships. That changed professions. That was so bad. I think they were getting death. Threats on that and that is that is literal right from owners vehicle owners and stuff. Yeah Yeah Right. People trying to make a living was with significant investment vehicles. Well Wade thank you for the call perspective and again the summer. All right. Okay thanks well let me let me ask my guess. WanNa take a swing at this These mechanical worries and And how how. Well have the been resolved so far. Hi Yes I. I have heard that. The earlier generation of the technology eh the diesel particulate filters From two thousand seven through maybe two thousand ten model years here's In in two thousand ten I believe they were also including selective catalytic reduction ESI are. That's why a lot of trucks have to add the diesel emission fluid the fluid I did hear that they early on there. Were a lot of problems and hiccups in bugs to be worked data the system but I have heard that the majority of them have been worked out. And let me ask the purchaser of this new equipment these new engines Mike Mike Shea of The spirit of Ethan Allen. How confident are you that you're going to have smoothly operating a ship this summer? I'm very comfortable right next. Door are great neighbors. Burs A. Longtime Company oldest up boat operators Lake Lake champlain transportation or on the ferries they run. We're getting caterpillar engines and It was on their advice Their suggestion because they've had such great success with their engines that we got these Caterpillars plus there there is a Dealer right here in Richmond Milton Caterpillar Milton cat and so we've got an right nearby service department. So I'm I'm very comfortable. These are very very well Recommended by other boat operators also And did have their as there have been a better a better S- Service record four and performance record really for these engines in marine applications than on the road applications. You know. Honestly I'm I'm not that familiar with marine applications versus will lose we a I have a runner. What are the what is lake? Champlain transportation use for their engines They they use. It's pretty much all caterpillars and Back in When the bad economy was going on there was some funds that they've got some deer refunds also? Oh about ten years ago and they converted either with one of the one or two of their votes. Were had older technology that we're polluting. And they took the time in and spent their money to get the new engine on airboats and Mike. I'm wondering you SORTA customer reaction you want returning guests. You know people eh recommend it to their friends and so on have the have the existing engines in you. You're talking about the black smoke and the smell and so on happened in issuing if people actually gotten off the boat complaining to you or anything or is that not really that big a deal so far some people say it and you know the majority say nothing but I'm sure they formed their own opinions and thought about got it so we're doing something about it. Yeah and I mean I gather that it works on many layers not only in terms of kind of your own conscience about your environmental normal impact zone but also if you make your customers happier that's what any any business person wants to do APP absolutely especially for us in the tourism industry which is one of the major three industries in the state of Vermont We've got a good cooperation with the state. NECE- PA program to to it only enhances a tourism now deirdre go back to the grant program for America kind of curious to know where it might go from here. I mean it sounds like a real a really unique project to take this I think you're the are you the only sort of cruise boat Mike on on the lake. Yes now we are okay and So this is a pretty unique business in Vermont and obviously Your Job Deirdre is to try to reduce These Lee missions and so on Across the board every anywhere you can find an opportunity like this to do so and I'm wondering What other what give me do you? Are there other examples of past grants going out on and maybe a couple of other projects if you could describe or or what's next down the list of people who are applying yeah The grant opportunity is open to a wide ride variety of eligible vehicles and equipment such as You know buses locomotives heavy. Duty Trucks Marine engines engines non road engines equipment vehicles that are used in construction agriculture and In the past we've Helped to fund the early replacement of older heavily polluting school buses we've partnered with municipalities to replace vacuum trucks or back Os and we've partnered with the multiple Rail Railways in Vermont To install it'll reduction technology on the local locomotives and we also partnered with local. Construction companies beverage distributors distributing companies to replace their trucks and equipment and so there there is a wide variety of opportunity. It sounds like you have a list. Is there a lot of which I probably wouldn't even thought of. Obviously your your. This is your work so it would make sense that you would have the ability to come in here and identify some of these other projects objects around the state either which have done or pending or maybe some of them have done more of a similar type for coming and I'm wondering You know overall is there any sort of total for which you can say. This program has reduced diesel emissions in Vermont by x in y number of you yes So we've been receiving funding from the EPA annually. Since two thousand eight we've spent more than Provided more than three million dollars in grants to schools municipalities and businesses and we have Reduced I An estimated two hundred ninety tons of nitrogen oxide emissions fourteen tons of particulate matter our ten tons of hydrocarbons ninety seven tons of carbon monoxide and more than seventy six hundred tonnes of carbon dioxide. Wow that's quite a record. Well well congratulations on that. We were at about the top of the hour upcoming in the end of this segment. I want to thank my guest very much near drug ruseler of the Richler of the Ritzy Ritzy I'm GonNa get this right eventually. Deer give richer of the Vermont Department of Environmental Conservation and Mike Shea of spirit of Ethan Allen Cruise cruise ship on Lake Champlain. Take the two of you for coming in. I really appreciate it. Thank you thank you already. We're going to be back after some. CBS News at the top. The Hour and a couple of words mar sponsor stay with US while the Warren store is a warm and welcoming oasis during the winter a Woodstove is roaring the aromas of fresh made soups and our daily specials. Fill the air copies hot in the pastries of fresh. Stop by for breakfast breakfast. Before you hit the slopes make your operates ski choice to relax Refu- after a day of fun on the mountain and we have a great selection of grab and go meals if you can't Dan stay in shock. But we hope that you can stick around the Warren store but funky friendly in almost world famous. It's the day grab show on. WD FM and am or our second hour of the Dave Graham. Show here on W. Devi the and I wanted to just mention that right now. Apparently there's a news conference going on in Washington relating to the appointment of house impeachment managers to send over to the Senate with the articles of impeachment that the house is expected to vote and Go ahead and move those over to the Senate after a delay in which Speaker Nancy Pelosi he was trying to press the Senate for terms of maybe That you considered a little more fair so onto the house Prosecution of of this impeachment and the Senate Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell was pretty much able to hold off on a lot of what the speaker wanted but The process apparently early the logjams breaking the House has to go ahead and send any articles over the houses in point appointing managers and we'll see what unfolds on the impeachment front in the coming weeks expected. Expect to be a three to five week process or so So lots of stuff to watch their including its impact on the presidential primaries which are obviously also about to unfold The the caucus I should say I will end the New Hampshire primary first off about to unfold. Maybe right in the middle of when the Senate is holding this trial And thereby tying up some of the leading candidates including people like Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders. Amy Clo- which are the they are. I think it'd have to Do some scrambling to figure out how much time I spend an Iowa when I was supposed to be a juror at this impeachment trial back in Washington. So that's GONNA be interesting to watch and speaking of the politics. We actually have someone who could comment. I think in some To some degree to a great degree I hope I think that Steve Futterman. CBS News he was watching the debate last night. Very carefully and learning about how all breaking down for the candidates. Steve Are you with me. I'm with you I'll try and you do a great degree okay. Excellent tell us. Tell us your your sense of The winners and the losers last night whether any clear winners and losers the debate I I don't really think so I think Joe Biden wins because there were no big problems for him he is still using someone who just wants to get five five. These debates the thing we were all watching for last night entering the debate was was Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren say about this alleged comic made he by Bernie Sanders in twenty eighteen Elizabeth. Warren says he told her back and the woman he could not win the White House this year. So as we expected Bernie he's centers. I asked about it as expected. We he denied it categorically. We weren't sort of expecting the next question to be to Elizabeth Warren. Well he say it just just after reiterated but for some reason the moderator said to her unusual choice of questioning She said she. Whoa Whoa what did you think when Senator Sanders said this to sort of implying that Sanders was a known fact that he said it to her so that was a bit awkward. But I I don't think either of them were expecting to make this into a big thing that would last more than a few minutes. It did not even turn into a spats Bernie. Sanders said he didn't say it's Elizabeth Elizabeth. Warren says essentially confirmed that he did and said she has more. I get into a fight with him so we moved on from there. I theory about this if I run a by sheriff he yeah I I think I think that I I've I was longtime. AP reported here in Vermont. I've known Bernie Sanders for about thirty five years and he ended the idea that he would say this to Elizabeth Warren even in a private conversation just doesn't sound like Bernie Sanders. I mean it just doesn't sound like what he thinks or or and is he pointed out he said and you know Hillary Clinton got more votes than Donald Trump and twenty sixteen. What do you mean anybody thinks that a woman can't get elected And and so again I just I don't. He's a very practical guy. And even if veep thought you know it's a deep dark thoughts about this or something I I don't think he would say something kind of that inaccurate about the political scene but So so let's assume for the moment that Elizabeth Warren total lie here I actually think that she was a strategic foul. If that's the case it was kind of like Layton enlighten a basketball game when one team. You know you're the announcers go. They've got to follow. You've gotTA follow so they committed file And they hope the other the other you know the a person who is fouled will miss the foul shots and then they hit a three. I think last night when she made that speech about yes a woman can run for president and you know the women here one all of our elections and all of that stuff. That was kind of three pointer that was it was a big score for her and I think it works. But that's just my my my sense of the situation. And what are your thoughts. There there are many people who agrees completely with you that they've the Monday when all this happened when the leaks sort of began Suzanne Jesse in that Bernie Sanders said this that this was all a strategic move by the Warren Campaign. Remember they are essentially going after the same voters. There's Yup not exactly the same but essentially the same voters if you vote for Sanders you're probably like vote for warn. You probably like Sanders. So let's say it's a tight race and let's say this may be motivates. Maybe women citzens off women away from Bernie Sanders into the Elizabeth Warren Camp. Well again. This is not There was no coach that Oklahoma state who wants talked about its division one football. This is not intermurals. While presidential race is Division One. That's not intramurals. This is tough stuff. These are big boys and big girls and they want to win and yes you may be things that are not marcus of fleeing sperry very rules but You WanNa win. You sometimes do things that maybe in a perfect world. You wouldn't do so if that theory is correct. This sort of fits in. Yeah I I suspected and again I think it was a winning move for her. I mean not necessarily that that calls you the primary election or even the results in Iowa or whatever but I think she she did score points in the overall process here and so You know you kind of have the Hannah tour at some extent And we'll you know again. We'll we'll see how it plays out in in the voting. I my sense is that a lot of A lot of democratic voters are especially in the Warren in Sanders. End of the spectrum are are pretty zeroed in on which they prefer already. I don't know about If shopping let's say between Biden enclosure or something maybe there's less kind of fervent fervent fervent among among their voters. But my sense is that they can again also one of the other reasons. If in fact this theory is correct. This was a strategic move. You make sure that Bernie Sanders doesn't mess up you. You put him in jeopardy. I think he handled it. Okay last night no one saying saying Oh my God why did Bernie Sanders say that he was strong. He denied it. He's tonight. It's strongly so did not mess it up but again The always that possibility that he would messed up and he didn't so you take that chance And again I don't think it's going to be determinative. I don't think they've already third. We're going if you go back and say oh. My goodness all changed on that Monday night. Elizabeth Warren we'll be set statement. I mean it could. I just don't think this is going much farther. It's already gone if she picks up a bit. She has if she doesn't have nothing. No harm no foul pretty much. Yeah I agree with you there. I think actually some of the coverage bridge of this has been a little breathless compared to its real significance which is not that great after all so I mean but we do jump on things like that and it wasn't news nuggets around around four hours. Yeah I think it goes away unless there's something more to it and there's no indication right now there's anything more to it. Impact remember. That was worn one made the statement she said he said. But I wanNA talk about it. Let's move on. Yeah paraphrasing here. Yeah she's already even WanNa do she's already trying to get past it. And certainly there's no There's no capital for him to gain and continuing to pursue it so I think both of them are going to say again and to me. It just feels like it feels like a foul late in the basketball all game and these things happen and yeah it's not as you say Marcus Queensberry or whatever but but it's a it's a tough game and people are trying to win and and here's a strategy. Did that can help you. And and and again I think I think the bottom line years you know a three-pointer for war so there you go. We have a caller on the line. Do you mind if we take a call here. Let's go to Roger. Lebron Worcester wrote. What's your question we're address? Yeah I just like to convey my My dissatisfaction of the mainstream press and how they treat Bernie Sanders. I think he's treated extremely unfair. In fact I would say. Hey Dr is probably pretty constant By you know for my view a million miles away here I've seen a lot of campaigns. I've seen how this thing we know. We know Bernie Sanders up very no but this is just garbage about him. Not Thinking a woman could win the presidency. So it's really preposterous from from the people who actually know. Oh him but I would like to ask you In the mainstream press. And you know I don't WanNa be like a basher of the mainstream press but Jeez you know there's unfairness fairness going on here. And I hope this is heard in New Hampshire. I really do and I know there's a lot of people who are really upset just like I am about this watching this from afar. My question question to you is. Are you guys gonNA try to treat everybody fairly just give everybody a fair shake. Are you guys You know here's my opinion on this whole thing. Basically you're the mainstream press in general can't be proved sure looks like they're trying to elect Joe Biden. They're trying to elect maybe Buddha judge or closure and they're trying to Warren and Bernie into a big fight and this is how it looks from a million miles away and and I hope you convey that to your folks down in DC. If you have the chance because we're watching you guys. Like Roger. I get your point I wanna I WANNA get give Stephen chance to respond respond. Here's Steve You have any thoughts you'd like to share all this but I'm not gonNA take it personally. I don't know if he was aiming which me but let me tell you. As far as I'm concerned basically what I do I just report what they say. Just give them the facts and when Elizabeth Warren came out with that statement on Monday night we reported what she said we we immediately reported what Bernie Sanders said. His people issued a statement. Very playcalling allegations ludicrous. I reported that immediately and pretty much what was it. Today is the Sanders denial. We're not really talking much about what Elizabeth Warren said. Because she didn't say that much now I understand when you have have a a dog in the fight I think everyone you know I follow sports teams. I don't like when something is said that about the team I like even if it's true so I I don't think there was a conspiracy against Bernie Sanders again. I hope you're not confusing. The opinion talkers. That people who do have have opinions with the straight news reporters. I'm a straight news reporter. I sure hope you're not finding anything. Bias in my report. Says I will guarantee you. There's nothing that they are. It's that you should shoot interprets. Fires and I can only plead. My case has for your mercy if you listen to all right well Rogers I think already already gone off off the area but I I appreciate that. Response Steve Futterman. I'm GonNa let you go because we've kept you a little long already and I and I appreciate you use standing there and taking the heat so it's okay. We understand that I understand. Listen there many people listen and this one's on both sides of the aisle that's Bernie Sanders reported. We have people who support president. Trump will also have an agenda again. I think it's important for listeners viewers to know there is a difference between the sweet knees with this someone like myself. And then you'll have the opinion makers on MSNBC. Have lots like Rachel maddow. She gives opinions on the on the Fox Sean. Renting he gives opinions. We are different from them if you hear US making comments like that. There's a problem but I don't think he will that much from this guy's source of all right right. Well Steve Futterman CBS News. Thank you so much for joining us. This morning we'll talk soon already. let's go to a caller. We have Forbes from current on the line Good Morning Forbes morning how are you. Good right I've got a question for you and you can try to analyze it for me Last evening I'm listening to the radio and four four different press releases or announcements came across and what they said is trump agrees stories with Bernie Sanders and they stopped right there now. I was a a woman how. How would I construe that Trumpet Reasons Bernie Sanders on this whole dust up with Elizabeth Warren. Or y'all say that's that's correct okay. It stopped right at that agrees. Korea was Bernie Sanders. Well just to be clear that the topic here was this question of whether whether Bernie Sanders Says Elizabeth Warren. I don't think a woman can be elected president correct okay and so trump agrees with Bernie Sanders. That what Bernie didn't say that or this or that or that. Trump actually believes himself that a woman can't be like the the president. Well that's why the message was was kept abrupt. Okay so in other words you're asking me to try to tell you which those answers is in is does trump agree with agree with the alleged comment by a Bernie Sanders that a woman can't be it can't be like the president. This is common by the way that Bernie Sanders designed denies making and says. He doesn't believe so I I do. I think that the president has his own view on these things which kind of has to be taken almost I don't know analyze separately from the conversation and with between between the Sanders and Warren. Here I frankly don't think the conversation between and Warren is relieved. That big a deal. He said she said I think he can sort of believe whoever whomever you want I mean again I'm I'm I'm sort of thinking sanders word. Because I've heard him and seen him do an awful awful lot of other things over the course of his career indicating that he is fully aware that women are capable of winning the White House or any other political office And he's he's Set things to that effect he has. He has acted in ways which support women's rights to to a high degree overtime. I I just I don't i. Don't think that the idea that he made that comment you know. Maybe he was thinking well. The conversation have been where he just has sort of normal skeptical. Skeptical Scowl on the Bernie. Sanders look and she took that as disagreement. I don't maybe because because now she's a little vague she says basically he disagreed. And you know how do you disagree. Go Haram F- or do you do you say why did I disagree. And here's why or you know but we're not getting that level of detail so I I quickly think the whole thing is kind of a attempts to not pot and I'm not really that worried about it one way or the other. It certainly certainly doesn't change my view of either person involved that much. I mean the only only thing I was saying earlier about Elizabeth Warren is I think it was a sort of strategic foul if she if she told something she really doesn't believe true. She committed this what I call eldest strategic foul gave her an opportunity last night to make a speech about yes. I'm a woman. Yes I'm running for president. Here's what I think about that and I think it's you know a l. of worthwhile thing for her to have had a chance to kind of answer that question that nobody had asked so clearly yet and so there you go. That's her view of the world around women in politics. Does that make sense for us. Well yes it does when as Foley Explained my contention was that I had in her for Basic News announcements that and it went just like this trump agrees. Okay if I was already sanders saying that a woman could not be elected. That's pretty nice again. I I frankly kind of doubt it but you take you take it for what it's worth anyway you want to. That's obviously one of the great things about this being a free country. Got A couple of other callers on the line which I'm GonNa go to you and then we're GonNa take a break and then we are going to change topics to climate change. But let's get a couple more people on the on the air here. I think Robert From Bristol was first Robert. Are you with us or is that okay. No Robert Unusual. Oh Are you there Robert yes okay you please start. I missed the first few of your words. Oh well it's what important I just sort of wanted to back A little bit of what your last caller said But I don't think it's the press as much as is it is the party that doesn't want burning to the party has the party. Such doesn't WanNa have Bernie beat they have many of the party type have all elect Verney. Even Obama came out and said don't do that but I think that the party really doesn't want to make the changes that Bernie wants to. He runs the they. Don't see him as a Democrat. They seem as an independent but He he is what I believe. Most most people want and they tried to downplay Bernie a lot. I would have to say that there are some forces that are certainly trying to downplay Bernie and anybody who disappointed that knows him well We'll may not anybody else. Many of us I and as far as the Warren and that's just that's just the whole thing nonsense Bernie Warren conflict. That's that's all that's all just politics. Alright appre appreciate the Gulf the. Thank you for checking in with us. We're going to go to don in Worcester. Good morning done on and gave. If you really think Bernie Sanders says that. I've got a Ridge Brooklyn. I'll get a price on or you're a same way as you do about that. And and I go back actress Elizabeth Warren other big deal with our claim to be part of American Indian hole. Where does that go I have two copies of her book here a fighting chance. One of the US is a loner. The other ones in my from library. Excellent book brought. I heard her on one of the early debates and I can't remember exactly what the issue who was but I came away from that feeling that here's a woman whose mind just made up. She will not be confused by the facts. Okay that's the scares me about Elizabeth Warren Right there you don I appreciate the call I gotta move on but Check in with again soon. Hey let's go to betty from Berry Good morning morning. I have a question now if they do go with a trial and have questions who who can they call. I know that what's his name was called as a manager. Adam Schiff no can he be called as a witness if he he is a manager I am not sure about that whether that procedural procedural would be okay or the. I guess that you'd be turned the question around and you could eat candy actually serve as a manager if he's being called as a witness witnesses yet. It's always I know right. Even if he's called as a witness does that mean to stop being a manager I just I don't know what you're saying. The interesting question buddy. Hey Buddy while I have you I want to ask you as a woman you know I. I don't get enough women callers on the show when one comes comes in I take advantage Do you do you have any concern about this about this. Dust Up between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders allegedly told Elizabeth. Warren and a woman can't win the White House he allegedly told. We know that he did kill it. Yeah I I mean some other callers are expressly doubt. I have my doubts. I mean well. Let's just start a you believe it. Do you think he actually told her that. I don't think so I I don't think so. So you're not. You're not that concerned about about something you don't know now. All right anything else betty. I kinda jumped in this kind of question. I just kind of wondered about that question because I know they just announced the managers worth. Yeah Yeah IT'S A. It's an interesting question. I just don't know the answer. I'm sorry to say maybe we'll find out at some point very go. Thank you so much. All right we're going to take a brief break here on the day grab show and then we are going to get back to our regularly scheduled programing or something like that. The Warren store is a warm and welcoming oasis. During the winter. Woodstove is roaring the AROMAS of fresh made soups and our daily specials spill. The air to copy is hot in the pastries of fresh. 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But we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA put them together out see how they mix and match and all that sort of good stuff so let me start in if it could with you Sandra and just ask you Talk to us Maybe maybe give people a reef definition of what these two measures. Here's our trying to do. In Montpellier sure I'll start with the global warming Solutions Act and first of all. I'm going to start with the excitement this year at the legislature on climate change. There's been been a lot of really positive energy to legislators have come in our in our excited to get some work done on climate. Change the students who came in last week. And just I. There's A. There's a buzz in the State House on climate. Change this year which is great I think we're we're there really poised to get some work done. I and the global warming solutions. ACT IT. It it's a key framework A policy that would put in place a requirements. We've had goals now for a number of years to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and we fallen short year after year after year. We fall short and we're now thirteen Thirteen percent and above cl climate emissions from nineteen ninety instead of moving in a downward In a downward way so what if fundamentally what what this would do is it would make The goals that we already have in place to reduce greenhouse gas emissions requirements. And then it sets a path forward for how. We're actually going to get that done. It has a climate council that is responsible for putting forward a plan. The Agency of natural resources will take that plan. Put those into regulations so that by twenty twenty and twenty twenty five and twenty thirty we will actually meet our greenhouse gas reduction requirements and and it follows on Successful legislation in other states from Massachusetts to Maine just passed last year in New York recently as well so it's is not Vermont. Go going out alone. Vermont following and standing shoulder to shoulder with our neighbors to make sure that we reduce our greenhouse gas emissions and can move move move forward to reap the benefits of cleaner economy of lower cost energy solutions and being more prepared in terms of resilience the ants and and solutions going forward so the the climate change I'm sorry global warming Solutions Act. which is what are what are its actual actual provisions? I mean give me a sort of chapter by chapter break down here of what. What does it do early? You know the top two or three things. I don't know if we can read the entire bill air here between now in eleven o'clock the headlines for half an hour we could probably read through it in that time it fundamentally it takes the the goals that we have in place now oh To reduce you know twenty six percent below Two thousand five emissions by twenty twenty five and forty percent by twenty thirty and eighty percent sent by twenty fifty and then with a provision as well to get to net zero goals and it makes the mandates correct yes and that would give your your group and others the power to sue the state of Vermont if it weren't meaning those mandates at that time right. It's not that it is power to sue that meet the mandates it. Obviously the the goals that we've had in place in the past have not been sufficient You know if anyone's ever been on a diet sometimes the goals you have a little hard to meet so you need a little push to get you over there to get you cross the finish line. And that's what this does it sets these requirements and Says that the there the the The climate plan climate council will will put forward a plan and have requirements in the Agency of natural resources will Follow through with regulations agents they requirements or a deadline. They have deadlines in place similar to other environmental laws have deadlines and if those deadlines are met You know their feet can be held to the fire. We'll make sure that it gets done. Bottom line is we will meet our greenhouse gas reduction requirements in a way that is helpful to our economy and helpful to our health often helpful to the future of Vermont so to use your Diet. Analogy you go to your annual physical with your doctorate new doctors. You know you really ought to lose twenty pounds right come back the next year year. Ten pounds heavier. I mean that's basically where we are with stuff right now right. That's exactly where we are with this now. And so. How realistic is it to think that down? You know annual physical over to here now. The goal is to lose thirty pounds. I guess I mean what are we. What are we doing? And how are we gonNA get there man. Let me ask you that question. Uh thanks Dave. So one thing that's really important to know. Is that the global warming Solutions Act as being promoted in the State House and by organizations as part of a much more comprehensive climate platform that includes actually four piece of legislation. Not just the two that you described earlier we can get into all of that but it's really important important to know that while the global warming Solutions Act is going to be putting in place a strategic and accountability framework and the plan for how we get to each of the goals the targets that sandy described it also is going to be part of this comprehensive package. That actually is going to put the resources into do that. Plan and the actions that we need to take in order to ensure that we are being put on Track for success. And that's the the last thing that I I WANNA know before I turn it back over to Sandy. Is everyone involved in. This conversation is interested in setting the state up for success. This is about giving the state the authority the responsibility the tools to actually achieve the targets that everyone from the governor on down says they support so to date. We have not had either a plan nor the tools to do that. And if we pass this comprehensive platform of climate legislation this year we will have both the goals and the plan and the actual tools to achieve those goals. We have a listener on the line. Fred is calling in from Newburgh. Fred are you there. Can you hear me we can hear you now you can't okay How many climates do we have in North America in one of the climate change? How's IT GONNA fix the other climates Um Bandai's that one sure so of course when we're talking about the climate crisis it's referring to the global climate eh obviously has a lot of sort of sub climates or micro climates climate of North America. Yes so the reality reality of how the climate crisis is playing out is. It's affecting different places differently. What we've seen here in nor the northeastern part of North America is the dramatic increase in precipitation one kind of truism and it's a little bit of an oversimplification with the climate crisis is that wet places are likely to get wetter and dry? The places are likely to get drier. And so you see most of Australia on fire right now to make light of it and just just to finish the point what we've seen here in a Temperate climate that has plenty of precipitation already is decade over decade both more rainfall more precipitation in total all and actually the extreme weather events. The large storms are getting both larger and more frequent and so they kind of affects that we saw the Halloween storm or tropical storm Irene. A number of years ago are going to become much more common in fact already have so that you're saying that the Deniz will continue to get drier in the coastal hostile climates will continue to get wetter. That's again that's an oversimplification. Climate System is incredibly complex. But yeah I mean okay. So the great limiting then we have the dust bowl. was that a weather change. was that a climate change. I would defer to other folks who've studied that particular climatic event but the kind of that kind of effect is going to be much more likely in places like the South E. Sorry the South West US Australia California anything. We were already starting to see that when you look at the wildfires out west that have hit record record or near record levels in recent years already fred. Thank you for the call. Appreciate some good Good interesting questions. There and I I I wanted to shift the focus now a little bit and talk about a related piece of legislation and I'm curious to get your thoughts of In part on in what the relationship is between the two And that is of course we have not just the The global warming Solutions Act Moving through the process in Montpellier earlier. But there's also the Transportation Climate Initiative Sandy Levin. Can you tell me a little about how they are they are they are related or not or well. Sure as I said the global warming Solutions Act really sets the framework for all climate action. Vermont would be taking so any efforts. We do as part of the transportation climate initiative it is part of our effort for one hundred percent renewable energy efficiency. All that would feed into the solutions that are part of the global warming solutions Act Okay and the transportation. Climate initiative a would have Vermont in partnership very directly with Other northeastern states. We'll get the New Hampshire in a moment But let's start with the overall picture here that that people are talking about Similar to something that came up several years ago called the regional Greenhouse gas initiative that applied to electric utilities and in which has been successful and So tell us how this TC and Ah I would work. Yeah so one of one of the things that I think is very exciting about the transportation. Climate Initiative is that collectively these states. Make up something like the fifth largest economy in the world so it's not just again Vermont. Doing something on its own. It's Vermont working in concert with all of our neighboring states to look at. How are we going to address? The pollution greenhouse gas emissions were getting from transportation which in Vermont is is the biggest source of our greenhouse gas emissions and to move forward with a a way to again have solutions. Help people get into more electric vehicles more public transit more ways to avoid burning an expensive and polluting fossil fuels that are hurting our environment and hurting our health. Now one of the aspects of this interstate agreement. Obviously you. Oh you do kind of need to get all of the neighboring states Ideally on board. Here My understanding is that Senate governor Sununu of New Hampshire has recently said his state will not sign onto the transportation and climate initiative and And the impact here. There's there's always a worry. In Vermont. Along the Connecticut River Valley about disparate economic impacts on either side of the river I've heard estimates that gas prices Vermont. Ah are expected to go up about seventeen cents a gallon. It's already generally cheaper to buy gas in Littleton. New Hampshire then across the river in Saint John's Wart Vermont. How do how do you placate the worries of folks in that part of the Vermont that all of a sudden we're going to be at a greater disadvantage vis-a-vis New Hampshire so the reality of something like the transit transportation and climate initiative is? There's kind of two sides of the coins. There's the potential cost side that you were describing and then there's you know what is Vermont you're going to do with that revenue and that's the conversation that we anticipate the legislature taking up in Ernest In the coming weeks and the reality is as with kind of every policy that we could conceive taking up on climate. Change or anything else. You can do it well. You can do a badly and one key thing that we're going to be looking for and pushing for during this legislative session is is to ensure that this program is implemented a way that is equitable that's just that's not just equitable for low income earners but it's equitable for minors in rural areas. And so you know the effects that you are talking about are a possibility but the reality is we have an incredible opportunity here to make the transportation system work better Vermont to make Transportation more affordable for Vermont. There's there's this sort of Acceptance of the status quo. As if what's happening now now where transportation heating are incredibly burdensome especially for low income for monitors in a rural areas is somehow fine as long as we don't do anything everything's GonNa be okay and the reality is. This is actually a very difficult situation for Vermont today so I would much rather be involved WBT in trying to help alleviate that those burdens and try to fix that situation not just from a climate standpoint from an affordability standpoint rather than just sitting on our hands and accepting the status quo. Because that's what we're used to. Yeah and I would just say in terms of affordability you know more Vermont as having the ability to drive electric vehicles and have the opportunity to be paying a dollar a gallon equivalent with dollar per gallon for gas instead of three to three or four dollars per gallon I'm wondering into in terms of the The burden on rural residents. We hear so much about You know there are folks who are Even if they work in let's say Montpellier Very expensive housing relative to the rest of the Washington County So somebody's GonNa live out and for you know twenty miles from town commuting commute in In all of a sudden they have this cost every day of driving back and forth What about what about the equity? I mean tell me tell me how they would see equity been been Yeah so The let me just talk briefly about the legislation and then the potential legislation and then Answer your question. A little bit more directly so what we're anticipating that the legislature probably in the Senate is going to be Putting forward a bill that would put some parameters around how this is implemented to say Revenues from this cabin invest programme needs to be invested in climate solutions. They need to be done in a way that's equitable and that's just So in doing that kind of legislation they have the opportunity to direct the Scott Administration Their implementation of this program which by by the way one thing we haven't mentioned is so far the only Vermont Irs who've been at the negotiating table in this regional. Collaboration have been members of the Scott Administration. They really actually helped shape. The the program So getting back to your question Frankly and this is V. Perks position. I'm sure it's not universally held in and I'm not I'm not sure where the legislature legislatures going to land on it but we actually think that it would be a good idea certainly something to be comfortable with taking some of this revenue. Not all of it. Because it's important that we actually invest vest in getting at the root causes of the affordability problem and the climate pollution from transportation but taking some of the revenue putting it directly into rebates for over monitors. There's rebates for low income for monitors so that in the short term This program works for them while. We're actually making things better for everybody in the long term Ben Now you said The break that there are a couple of others you wanNA mention as well. Let's run through those yes. There are two other big pieces of legislation that were supporting this year. The the first one is a requirement undermines electric utilities to get to one hundred percent renewable electricity by twenty thirty with a significant increase in the amount. One of the electric coming from renewables built right here in Vermont which obviously have fallen benefits not just for the climate but for our local economy and keeping more money right here in Vermont and then the final piece of the puzzle For this session in our minds is this idea of modernizing energy efficiency programs so we have had a very good track record on electric efficiency efficiency. Vermont is the best known and largest efficiency utility in the state. They've actually saved her monitors. The net savings from the their investments are going to be about two point four billion dollars in a in the past twenty years in the sense they were created in the year. Two thousand there have been They've had about a four to one return on investment from ratepayer dollars so a net savings of you know over a billion and a half dollars over the life of those those investments. That's great right now. However their hands are fairly tied when it comes to investments that would reduce climate pollution? Shen by doing things in the transportation sector for instance. They are very good at electric efficiency. You know if you've ever bought an led lightbulb in Vermont. It's cheaper AH easier to get because of their work as one small example but they could be doing a lot more to reduce our climate pollution if we gave them more flexibility in a very direct requirement into focus on climate pollution. So we think there's an opportunity to sort of unleash that very successful program on climate pollution. So the four. The Global Warming Solutions Act is Transportation Asian climate initiative one hundred percent renewable electricity by twenty thirty and really putting our efficiency programs to work to Tackle climate pollution. Okay Okay and you know it I guess. My other question is in terms of the The actual impact on the ground out there I I. I haven't done any formal traffic studies and I haven't looked at any recently but I my sense. Is that drive up and down the interstate. Eighty nine this more traffic out there than there used to be Is that true or or is that not not not so true since entered. You know I I think there is more traffic out there. There's more people. Driving people are driving farther there. You're living farther out there's Building farther away from town. So that's not surprising and again that's it feels like you gotta ask. Are we really making progress. And the and and it sounds like we need to make a lot of progress and is this. Are we doing well. We need to make a lot of progress. And as I said at the beginning I mean in terms of greenhouse gas emissions and particularly with transportation from the transportation sector where we're falling very short in terms of reducing put polluting climate emissions. And if the if the transportation sector is the biggest problem than the solutions that we look at then you hear a lot you hear a lot about public transportation. Obviously there are some some difficult aspects of public transportation among them that It doesn't it doesn't penetrate very thoroughly into wherever monitors are actually living in working. It seems You know if you want to catch a bus from Point A. Point B. I you have to get to the bus. And that's a I don't know what it would be a mile or two walker. Kerr something and that's daunting for a lot of people especially when in the in the cold in the wintertime. And so on I see buses travelling around A lot of times are nowhere near full. So how do we get more people on the buses and off their private vehicles. One is to make them more available. You can can you know pick some of the easy routes I and make sure that we're you they match roots with. Our people are coming in where they need to get to I. I see very few people complaining. What about empty roads? So what's the complain about an empty bus. There's you're you're paying for that road that's empty this costing a lot more than that buses costume I'd also add that There's a this idea of and it's sort of a fancy term for just saying using smaller vehicles and and being a little bit more on demand But this idea of micro transit I actually might be a good fit for Vermont. If you're having sort of like passenger vans instead of larger buses you're gonna be able to to your point you know get further out of town centres But it's it's going to be a mix of solutions it's going to be getting people into more efficient Vehicles that my still use some gasoline. It's going to be getting people into electric vehicles. It's going to be increasing our transit a- and IT'S A. There's a long list beyond that. I did want to mention just briefly The pergama Vermont Conservation voters just about six weeks ago commissioned a poll that looked into Vermont Vermont tres perspectives on these four policies as well as global warming more generally. What we found was really overwhelming support across the state really in every corner of the state for both climate action generally and these policies in particular so sixty one percent of monitors were Very concerned learned about global warming and again when we broke down and looked at different counties that was June the northeast kingdom and Franklin County Down Windham county across the state we also saw support ranging ranging from seventy five to eighty five percent for the four policies that we described and again that was true in really every part of Vermont. So that's very heartening and and it really makes sense given where route on the climate crisis and is starting to be reflected in the State House. And that's that's really heartening. I'm excited to work on this this year and it seems like you're pretty high high energy fully seeming. This morning as well Sandra absolutely so well the two of you. I appreciate you coming by this morning. Talk to us about these issues. We'll have to revisit them as a session unfolds and see how they're coming in how you how you're doing on getting the governor on board and all the rest of that Unfortunately we're out of time time time for today's show however we are fast approaching the top of the hour here on the Dave Graham Show and W DAV FM and am if you missed any of the show today don't forget about our podcast the WB radio DOT COM followed a link to the Graham. Show you can scroll down to find. List of our recent programs won the war in store for sponsoring our podcast and and That is getting about and good about do it. I should say I get the words out for the Dave Ramsey. Show here today. Stay tuned now for common sense. 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"From Radio Vermont. It's the Dave Graham show on. WD It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most to you. Now here's your host Dave Graham. Good morning everybody. Today's Monday November the eighteen two thousand and one thousand nine hundred and Welcome to the Dave Ramsey. Show for this Monday morning here on. WD really appreciate all you folks tune in and out there finding US online at WD radio DOT COM uh-huh and it is a pleasure hosting this show and wanted to mention what we've got coming up today. We have three. I think interesting segments with different guests. Colin mine is become a Monday morning regularly here on the day Graham Show he's the managing editor of et dot. Org and he's going to be joining me just in a moment after I introduce or or give you a preview of what's coming up on the rest of the show. The second segment today is going to be with Kevin. LLC is actually a member of the board but that's not why he's coming in today he's He's going to be talking to about developments in Washington related to the impeachment hearings and so on. He's been watching this stuff closely. He's a political blogger with a lot of interesting insights. It's an ideas that he puts up online these days and of course he's a former reporter for the BURLINGTON free press than he's a longtime lobbyist and sort of political player here in Washington Lean Democratic I will say I think people ought to know that up front And Kevin is a very thoughtful guy. Last time he was on he was actually saying some interesting adjusting stuff. Sort of defending other Republican Party And and So we'll be getting a little couple of words with Kevin this morning and then around internal clock after ten o'clock this morning we're GonNa have a very special guest Former host of the show. Mike Smith was sitting in this very chair where I am for two three years. I think or something like that on here on. WD Nine to eleven am slot and These days he's back to wearing You almost want to say a new happen. It's really an old hat. Because because he served as a secretary hume services back during the Douglas Administration for Awhile interspersed with Time as As the administration secretary of the sort of top day-to-day day to day operator operations chief in state government and Mike is Going to be my guest. As I mentioned after ten o'clock he's GonNa talk about his new autour as as Secretary Human Services Governor Scott just appointed last month and He's taken a few weeks. Looked around and we're going to get a report from him on the state. Zeta that agency. I think and what he has in mind for any changes or improvements and that sort of thing so we'll be hearing from Mike about that but one of the START I this morning with Colin mine are good a friend and Monday morning regulars. I mentioned Good Morning Colin and a lot of interesting stories digger boy. It seems like sort of an exceptionally actually strong edition this morning. A publication online publication is frequently quite strong. But you've got Really interesting stuff. This morning one is a story by Kevin O'Connor honor about the Catholic Church and they've been stashing money way trying to protected from lawsuits. Tell us what's going on. Yeah so you know. There was this recent Report Report on priest abuse that the Catholic Church actually sort of mobilized a lay committee Look at their papers and sort of identify priests who had been credibly accused of abuse And there was some concern or Sort of expectation that this would bring new lawsuits which originally and sort of late nineties when the Boston Globe did it Spotlight investigation in this sort of became a national thing. There was A number of lawsuits. They cost the Catholic Church millions and millions of dollars And sort of the and then again in the mid two thousand and Some of this new scrutiny bring new lawsuits and therefore is likely to cost the church. New Money and the Church has talked about some concern that it's going to sort of run out of money and there's just not enough there in the coffers that they have about sixteen million dollars on the books But Kevin's been reporting forty on this quite some time and recalled that Backing them into thousands. There was some conversation of trying to move church assets mainly property around the state into the sort of private trust that would be shielded from potential lawsuits down the road so he dug into that and found out that indeed it had happened. Spend and That the church sent letters about one hundred and forty towns around the state Changing the sort of church deeds into private trusts that'd be protected from lawsuits or they hope will be protected from lawsuits And that there's almost half a billion dollars that are sort of half a billion dollars worth of property assets mainly that are currently the trust and sort of raises the question as to whether or not it would be recoverable from victims if there were lawsuits. I'm the Catholic Church had to pay That's a legal question down around. Yeah boy now a couple of questions I have about this one is is there anything that looks nefarious area here. I mean a lot of folks do things with their money. Put Him put money in trust and so on basically they've tried to protect it. I mean I know. I know seniors who are who are trying hi to maximize the what they're gonNA leave in their to their heirs and And they will put money in trust for instance to try to look at the amount that you're going to have to spend down if they go to a nursing home just for one example of people you know trying to protect their assets Is there is there any allegation that any of this is unethical or illegal or any of that sort of thing. O'Neill who has sort of been the BURLINGTON lawyer that's really been The lead lead sort of advocate for victims legal process for twenty years now In the midst thousands he accused the Catholic Church of and I believed even filed a lawsuit accusing it of violating. Vermont's Friday on DIS law which basically is transferring money with the intend to avoid right debt or duty So indeed there is a claim that this is Not on the up and up I it's not unique among a number of Catholic church is is Around the country did similar types of things moving millions and millions of dollars into things like graveyard trusts and sort of places where it might be. Shielded From general sort of lawsuits against the Catholic Church But you know it hasn't really been tested in Vermont Courts Because the Catholic Church still had enough money in it. Sort of main coppers. It's unprotected coppers To pay off victims so far which is why this new scrutiny and these new lawsuits might sort of Raise a new legal fight and whatnot. Bene- two decades sort of dispute between victims and the Catholic Church. Of course they did end up selling significant piece of property on the waterfront in Burlington. That was was that a decision that they made to say. You know this'll be. This is what we're going to sacrifice and then we're going to try to limit from here or was that something that sort of fell through through the cracks of what they hoped would be complete protection or do you have any idea no like you said. I think that they chose that they were going to try to protect these properties around the state But that they had to free up some money and that was the biggest chunk of change that they could produce In short order. Obviously that prime real estate In Burlington so you know that piece of land has its own story. which is referenced briefly in the story leading you know James Sanders in Burlington collared sort of collapsing But yeah you know it seemed like that was sort of part of the plan is identified. Here's a way that we can free up some money and then with all these other properties. Let's protect them for the future. Interesting stuff and and so the next step of this I mean Willoughby court hearings on this on this case that your o.`Neil is bringing you regarding this What did you call it improper? Deeds or something. Yeah so that he actually because all of the cases in the mid two thousand were settled eventually The I I believe he went through that lawsuit or rather the statute of limitations on the particular claim. ran out But with this five lawsuits currently in the works Derome o.`Neil representing Victims and potentially they have they have about sixty million dollars those lawsuits where to lead to settlements above above that or more were to come forward Then I think you'd see renewed questions and perhaps renewed lawsuits against the church on whether or not this half billion dollars is really protected. Acted or not. Well it's GonNa Merit continued vigilance and so on by outfits like digger. I shouldn't say outfits like because you guys are pretty pretty unique. Maybe this digger I. I don't know who else is really watching this very as as as carefully and thoroughly as as you folks are these days but but Definitely merits continued scrutiny. Shall we say hey. I wanted to shift gears here and ask you about another big important story that you have. This morning involves evolves Incorrectly pronunciation if you have a better one. I'm going to guess I eat Garang he's An Asian Man Asian my birth earth who was living in Burlington and Committed a heinous violent act a few years ago has been going through the court system and latest ruling is that he is Mentally ill to the extent that he is not competent to stand. Trial seems to be something of a vindication for the state's attorney so FILL IN THE GAPS CHICAGO. What's going on with Mr Curran Yeah. So there was a big dispute You know previously over whether he was insane at the time of this very bloody and grizzly murder And the State Attorney and Shit and in county decided that basically the experts who had been hired to assess his mental state at the time of the murder order said that he was insane. She basically decided that she couldn't Challenge Court would be unsuccessful in challenging in court So she dropped the murder tar dismissed the murder charges The Governor Governor Phil Scott. Of course Asked Attorney General Donovan to review the case along with two others. There's that were fairly similar. Sort of Very violent attacks that had been dismissed because of the insanity. Defense an attorney general. TJ Donovan undecided to bring his own charges against IDA Garang And there is some dispute over where he'd be held in the interim he was moved to You know whether he's sort of kept it's in a medical facility He's currently in a prison So the the question now is whether or not he's fit to stand and trial or competent to stand trial and Dr has decided that he's not that in his opinion is current mental state is such that he wouldn't understand the charges being filed against him or the process process playing out in court before his is And Attorney General. TJ Donovan Again Through one of his assistant attorney general says that they we're going to contest that determination and they believe that he should still stand trial and We'll see what sort of arguments they make against the sort of medical decision It sounds sounds like they're gonna say something like you know He. has been deemed competent to stand trial up until these last few weeks. So you know why. Have things suddenly change in that kind of thing but it. It seems that the Attorney General is absolutely determined to make the trial happen interesting stuff. I mean I I just got a a text from A friend of the program. I've it's Lucy is a lawyer up in the Northeast Kingdom State's attorney actually in Essex County and has been around the Vermont legal system for a long time he he says In a text message not an email but he says that confidence is a fluid. State income. Change incompetency as is at the time of the offence. So so that's an interesting point actually because it's easier though. There are different stages when you can ask this question. Is this person mentally competent enough to to stand and trial and You know I I guess you WanNa you would wanNA have a defendant in court. WHO's up on a charge of murder? be able being able to understand and participate to the extent defendants usually do in in that process But then the other the another question goes to responsibility for the crime itself. This was a heinous offense. I mean this was a meat cleaver murder of was it. His mother-in-law believe in any taxes wife as as well. The mother-in-law died as I recall The and so this is a particularly gruesome situation There's a lot of political critical pressure here so so I sort out the the stages of when you ask the question. Is this person competent. You know I think the decision has to be made Well I I don't really. I don't know specific the answer to that question to be on it. Yeah okay well I mean in Vince Lucy here says confidence is a fluid state and can change. That's a really interesting point too because because obviously a mental illness is not a static thing so people you know improve and then and then Deteriorate or whatever. I'm not sure exactly what the proper language here is but You know they mental illness can wax and wane to some extent and Somebody could be more lucid at one time than another. I guess I mean and so you can have a situation where maybe This man was in was in a state of severe you know having having a particular flare up of his his mental mental health problem at time of the crime but the time of the murder And then he improves for while while he's going through various discussions with lawyers and maybe with psychiatrist to determine his competency and then then comes trial and maybe the stress of actually having to go to court and and faces accusers etc.. I mental illness again so I this all situation is so fluid it's really Partly tragic partly fascinating partly disturbing that we we have such a hard time figuring out. Yeah and his lawyers and the it's sort of mental health and physicians working with him and said basically what you said. which is you know He? He was getting better over time. Sort of you know the rehabilitation Played Out but then he sort of moved to a prison which certainly didn't help From a sort of more medically focused type of institution And then also obviously having this question over whether he would end up back on trial and that sort of thing surely has shaken him up as well. So You Know I. It's hard to imagine how you know this Latest assessment was done in early October So how you know as as long as this trial is sort of hanging over him Whether or not one can really get back into a You know better head space if indeed there fighting these mental health issues but I do believe they'll continue conducting these sort of examination. A little additional texier from from Viz. Lucy says a person can become competent. which is I think what we were just discussing here? He says in some of the southern states years ago on death row they would medicate defendants and make them competence so that then execute execute them That's at any goes on to say What stops what stops US case in? Its tracks is whether the person was was insane at the time of the offense and so again it strikes me as a tough thing to measure your especially sort of post-facto you know the person person commits a horrible crime. Let's say a Wednesday and At a certain date and then it could be months later. Actually that they're getting they're having a meeting with a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist job is determine their mental state on that Wednesday. You know it's just it's wow what a what a difficult part of the of the law of the criminal justice system and I don't I don't envy anybody who's doing this work because it's just got to be really. It's really hard and frequently. There's an awful lot of pressure a lot of political pressure a lot of public concern and and desire for someone to be punished. I mean I'm sure if you reading online comments that are going to result from the latest news here They're going to just going to be a lot of people just saying. Lock them up. Throw away the key kind of stuff so that is so one more says The question of sanity looks to the time of the offence. Competency looks to real time now. So so I guess there's a distinction here between the sanity and competency so Anyway I WANNA ask you about Peter Walsh because he has been an interesting player. You're in the impeachment proceedings so far down in Washington. He came out with one very funny a moment the other day. And that's why give us a little a little review here. Yeah Yeah I mean I would say that. His sort of quip with two diplomats In the hot seats on Wednesday last week probably ended up being one of the biggest the most memorable moments from the hours and hours of hearings. that happened if not the most important when he One of his Republican colleagues said that they wanted the whistle blower lower in the case and he called him the person who started at all To come and testify and Peter Wells said that he too wanted the person who started at all to come come and testify and proceeded to invite President Donald Trump to come before the lawmakers In the room erupted in laughter So that was rather memorable but you know he really has become a rather sort of central figure and all this perhaps not central but You know very much involved in all of these private in public hearings He also is very much accessible to the media. Vermont making him Quite Y- allowing us to sort of see through his is is What's going on With this whole process And sort of the expectations and developments day to day so It's been really interesting thing and You know this week. There's Gordon Tomlin who of course is the Bassett Who apparently had a number of conversations with the president where they specifically Michael specifically discussed tying the military aid to Ukraine with the military aid to Ukraine with investigation into the Biden? And I'll be really interesting. Yeah and and I mean this week I think is going to be perhaps less interesting than last week. Maybe maybe more so because it was silent coming I think he may end up providing some really key testimony in Philly in a couple of the elements that the Republicans in particular say are still missing including something the closer you are to a firsthand account of direct conversations with the president now of course Someone has been accused of being less than truthful in some of his past testimony Mainly in defense of the president And so whether whether they really get to the bottom of what this guy knows. is or take you get halfway there That's to be determined I should say by the way. Peter Welch Congressman for Vermont is You you were praising him calling for being accessible to the media media on this stuff He he is in fact going to be a guest on the day. Graham show here on Friday. I believe so. That'll be That'll be excellent. Because you know what was just becoming off three straight. Today's testimony tomorrow Wednesday and Thursday in Washington and then And then Peter Walsh on Friday will be a guest on this program and I think that's it's GonNa be a valuable valuable interview I think on Friday so I'm looking forward to that and Do you think that this This actually his performance in this so far where he seems to acquitted himself rather well and and I actually asked that question in the Muller hearing This past summer about whether Muller Robert Muller expected expected more of this in the future he said yes. Does this help welches career in Congress. Is he going to get some kind of more plum role as as the years goodbye. I think there's no doubt that In this latest sort of you know since Speaker Nancy Pelosi is returned You know to having the gavel. There in the House that his his stature among Democratic Caucus has risen perhaps play by the fact that the veteran but certainly doesn't hurt for a politician and get them up in national attention in his future so brady gotTa Wear Shades All right Colin Mine. Bt digger thank you so much rejoining this morning. CBS News upcoming coming from our sponsors. And we'll be back. Currently we hear a lot about shopping local in here in the mad river valley. We put our money where our mouths are. Make your holiday shopping of joyful the adventure far from the press and stress of big box stores. Come to the mad river valley inexperienced the joys and charms of a quintessential new holiday stores bars and restaurants to fill a day trip. Take a few ski runs before heading into Warner Wakefield for lunch or snack while checking off the items on your list at the Warren's store you'll find something for everyone best one stop shopping Vermont where we're fun funky and friendly mainstream village. It's the Dave Ramsey show. WD FM and am. We are back canelas. My next guest Kevin is a long time Reporter for the Burlington Free Press. Maybe not that long. How long were you at the free press? Coward three and a half years yeah. That's that's early nineties early nineties. Yeah I did a nice job. As the environmental writer for the free press back then then then decided to make some money went into lobbying was a fixture at the State House for a while and and then His firm really took off and it got this national footprint going it's that's unsolved unsolved and a different direction Kevin. You're off on doing your own thing these days including writing a regular blog and Being in all round political observer I'd say from a Democratic Liberal viewpoint is that fair absolutely free yeah I wanted to get that clear. Because we're GONNA ask you some questions here that might might get under. There are some of our listeners. Skin a little bit because Conversation this half hour I think is going to be mostly about what happened last week in the impeachment proceedings What what did you you take away? What was your big takeaway or two or three takeaways from last week? Take Away One. Long Standing State Department Foreign Service officers coming in defying the president and telling the truth to Republicans in Congress seeking in to defend the president's behavior and not being able to do not having much to work with so throw up a lot of mud and dust. And see if if you can distract the public which to give them their due. I think they actually are are fairly good at doing and I think the question is is coming out of all. This is unlike you know you and I are old enough to remember Watergate. I was about fifteen The question's GonNa be whether the public gives a darn yeah. I think that is a key question. And and what elements the police. Give a darn my sense of it though is that You know an awful flood of Americans do care about the stuff. They learned in school about separation of powers. And all that sort of you know elementary middle school civics fittest class stuff that you got way back when they care about respect for the presidency And and I think that that there is some real concerned and about whether the current occupant of the White House has enough respect for the presidency himself And I mean a lot of people who defend the president. I and hear criticism say you don't have sufficient respect for the presidency and I really do think that there's a question about Wetter president trump is understood. Good from from his the time he took over the office. Just what holding that same chair that was held by Washington Washington in Lincoln. It's a pretty great people throughout our history. What that means? Do you have any any sense of that. Yeah I I must say I I lean a little bit deeper into the conspiracy than that and that is I worry that if you're under the age of forty five that those civics lessons since that you just referenced which I call and I've written a lot about this sort of post World War Two World order that we helped create gate after the war with the Marshall Plan etc etc where the UN was created the NATO was created all these institutions that have have kept some mm semblance of order in the world. Trump is basically saying that is attacking that and so I wonder You know you and I grew up with that world order and learned about it in school If you're under forty five or forty you didn't really. I'm not sure that kind of learning is taking place is anymore. And therefore the strength of that order and those institutions are susceptible to attack and with Internet and Fox News being the prime ways in which we can appointed spear point of the spirit. Right you know I I I actually think this is really fascinating because what what the What may have happened after the Soviet Union collapsed in Nineteen Ninety Ninety one that that period in there? The Berlin Wall of course came down in nineteen eighty nine. And so all of that. Previous post-war order of these these two polar opposites really of the Soviet Union versus the United States and and essentially the rest of the world lining up in one of two parades Started to go away And for a while there was a lot of the lot op-eds is an editor orioles etc being written about how the United States was now president. Bush Shou George W George H.W. Talk about equal new world order in which the United States dates who's going to be the one supreme power For instance fluky. Our course wrote his book the end of history talking about how we don't we don't really have to worry about world conflict conflict anymore because the conflict has been one Boy then that didn't last it now. It sure didn't and I guess I saw on the news this morning. That Russia has now taken over the The military base in Ukraine. That I'm sorry in Syria. We abandoned and you know thirty years ago Dave that would have been a absolute scandal and now it Kinda just goes onto the ram home a couple of remarks on twitter. And then you're out. Yeah Hey we have caller on the line rick from adamant how you doing rick. Thanks Dave Yeah to your the point about about civics and and where we were at post World War Two up until things have really changed which the the right and Republicans and I think We're really trying to find a way to to gain back some some control. They hadn't held congress basically all that time. And this kind of goes back to the Lewis Powell memo in nineteen seventy one Generated by the Heritage Foundation and Lewis Powell. I think it's a good piece of history for people to know about And they they came up with the idea that they needed to. I take over the media. Take over the education system. Do whatever they could to you know. Bus Unions and things like like that and And with the election of Ronald Reagan which I thought was pretty suspect and how he pulled that off they've been implementing that ever since and that's what's really gotten us into this mess interesting observation there. I mean I think that there is there is Certainly I it's a hard thing because I mean frankly I come out of a long tradition in journalism of trying to be right down the middle balanced and fair and all this great stuff My long career with Associated Press. That's still the standard Certainly for the AP and for many other uh-huh traditional news outlets and And and so. It's a hard thing to say that To start talking about this sort of long term strategy not or you know to to even even try to even talk about an slightly more negative spin a plot really that got cooked up Way Back in the one thing I noticed over time. Was that when you talk about taking over the media for a long time in the seventies and eighties and the nineties. There was yes I thought. A real concerted pattern of whenever we're conservative columnist couldn't think of what to write about for the next column upcoming. You can always bash the quarter order quote liberal media and what the result of that has been really that that the the media have been cowed to a large extent. I mean there hasn't been and there hasn't been any real aggressive reporting against a conservative Regime I I. Don't think Watergate well I mean that's certainly been the strategy to to change the narrative and that's what they've I think they've largely done and even if it's a very centrist point of view. They they the Try to paint it as some liberal right a left wing point of view and when it's really not and so it shifted you know shifted this country's very by right one artifact of this I've been doing a little research recently trying to figure out just comparing the criminal convictions of of of Republican administrations versus Democratic administrations over the past fifty years fifty years. It's pretty good sample size. Really we're talking about almost a quarter of of American history. So let's go back to eighteen sixty nine and I believe the Nixon administration is something like fifty five criminal convictions. The Reagan administration at Sixteen and the Bush administration. I believe that sixteen Obama had in his eight years one. And that was David portrays pleading guilty to a misdemeanor. About mishandling of classified classified information Jimmy Carter had zero so you add them all up and it is more than a hundred to less than ten for and and so I think and the reason that most Americans don't know that is because the media had been bending over weight backwards to be so balanced the unable to point something like that Out Yeah Kevin. What do you think well Dave if I can make a cultural point this the Internet? We're just beginning to understand what the Internet has wrought and it's divided into two camps The Fox News Camp and the MSNBC you see camp. I think those are a false equivalency myself but we are now just going to the Internet and go into TV and watching. What already confirms what we already believe? That didn't exist when we were all watching Walter cronkite. And I think we're just starting to come to grips with how that's changed the society you you know. I think it actually goes beyond the just the Internet I mean and let's think about love for criminality for a moment because to the big heroes arose in the last twenty years of popular television. Have Been Tony Soprano and Ray Donovan. Yeah you know these guys are both just killers vicious criminals battles and people love them. Yeah so maybe maybe it's okay to be criminal. You know. Maybe people say that's fine on voting for it. Well the president of the United States is is that Kinda guy I mean I. I've often said he he's he's not a he's not incompetent and he's not stupid. He acts like a gangster and Roy. Cohn Joe McCarthy's general counsel was his hero. So that's how he's running. This operation is just like Tony Soprano and if you listen to this sunland ambassador Sir Sunland transfer read the transcript which we're going to hear about this week in the way. He was talking on his cell phone in a restaurant to the present the United States. You're going to hear a lot of Tony. Soprano style talking. You know actually The Mafia might want to look into some consulting here because they could probably we offer some tips on security phone. Calls trump made a memorable statement. I think it was in the campaign where he talked about dealing with Mafia guys in New York City real estate they said I know these guys. I know how to deal with them. Okay well I feel like there's gotta be some some counterbalance here because because I think we're going way off the deep end year now into into liberal conspiracy theory and stuff any callers out they WANNA call us up and tell us how badly we're going off the rails here two four four one seven. Seven seven is is the Is the local number here in Waterbury one. Eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five and You know I just I mean I. I'm I'm looking for some way to say There's some okay stuff going on here. I've I've heard some from some people on this very program. About how how they like what the president has done with the economy There is a A very interesting Peace Out The the online service market watch did add an analysis on the economy talking about how the trends are really just a continuation attenuation of what were what was happening in the latter part of the Obama Administration In fact I saw chart where if the if the those transit continued the economy on a key indicator of I think of the of the charter get but on one key indicator I think just economic growth nationwide would've even slightly higher if the if the previous transit discontinued And so when we hear all this chatter about Albany's great for the economy and yeah the new record Wall Street Hit on Friday so there is that and You know my retirement funds have been doing pretty well lately so that's okay but I just I'm just trying to let me see Fred for Nubrik. And how what about roof read as far as my question. Is You know what you talked about. Always News Medias and all this stuff Jorde or did. The country is so politically polarized So politic politically corrupt that. We might have another civil war. I mean it's crazy. I don't think you know. The constitution is too powerful for another civil war. It's not gonNA happen no matter how evil one party is to the other party. Yeah I I really. I have severe doubts about that as well. I I think I hope that there is enough. SORTA civil structure left in society. Including frankly you know they were the violence where breaking out in the streets. The you'd have law enforcement put it down essentially and and we can't have. We can't have a civil org. That's just but don't even come to that I don't either. I don't think your good good okay. Afraid thanks for the call I I I think we can agree on. We don't want a civil war but David Fred's onto something when he talks about the institutions that are are we were talking about this earlier. We don't value. I think about my own kids I think about a mid size level. VOL- CEO Manufacturing CEO. I know in New Jersey who. It's pretty liberal guys that I voted for trump. I said why because I think the system is corrupt. I think the whole thing needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt and you know. He's a highly educated guy. Do you think he's aware of this disparity in criminal criminal convictions. Over the past fifty years between the two parties probably not and he knows that trump is a not just trump Nixon at fifty-five criminal convictions connected with no no. I don't Reagan had sixteen member Iran. Contra right you know George W Bush at sixteen I mean and so I think I yeah I think it it it really does bear pointing out that. There's a difference here. You just want the numbers I I'm I'm trying to be as objective as I can. Yeah and when it's more than one hundred to less than ten. Let's not an even basketball game. I'm GonNa make a I'm going to go out on a limb. Maybe it'll spur a lot of controversy and caller please. Let's do the the reason i. I think the reason that exists is because of a and it's it's an older white male right. It is the American white male mail that elected trump and fears the disintegration of the society in which they grew up the post World War. Two you know Madman Generation Stable society two cars in the driveway mortgage etc.. They feel that slipping away and they will do anything it to retain that culture and including what's going on now okay. Does Jim from Mary get the get. Today's patients fries so far. Are you still allegiant still here. All right Oh you today do you not too bad. You made some comment about Organiz plans to try to shift the flippable manscaping and it reminded me of a very famous article. Those written about thirty years years ago. About engineering scheme or blueprint to flee take over Vermont. And interestingly it's not enough. The article was in Playboy magazine. I actually read it in a reprint and the articles. Come on you gotta copy of playboy. No I'm only kidding here because anywhere else. I may have actually but but the reprint that I saw was a commentary on the article in a used the term who moved the middle of the road that was that was the articles the second article about the first one but anyway it was one in playboy supposedly was not directly about from a hypothetical state. That was very small towns that you could in the whole focus was get into the local level. Get involved in your school boards. Get on the selectmen. They really easy to get on because everyone thinks that everyone should. It should do a stay on the select board yet. When you get inside the machinery of the small town you can then start to shift and and this was touted in the second article as being a blueprint for how remarks shifted to the left in the late sixties not? This article was probably around. Nineteen eighty five or something tyranny. Six and I was reading the The follow up on and probably in eighty five eighty. Six of any of you heard anything about that. That'd before I I think I have actually that that actually brings a bell. Let's put it that way And in fact I think I remember the the name Playboy in connection action with with that view of of you know last four or five decades on history and frankly I don't I don't hear anything that is really really that questionable there I think either party wanting to move It's Wanting to move the political picture atmosphere fear. That's the way you do it is. Is you start running for the school board. you start running for the select board and start running for city council. Whatever it is and you work your way up through the legislature mm-hmm and and that's Kinda the way politics gets done In America I think in the sort of traditional way I think what we're talking about really is a a much much higher level decision to Just for one example Get rid of this thing. They used to be called the fairness doctrine in national broadcasting broadcasting where You know it was expected there was required really that both sides will get equal presentation in a broadcast I still believe in that myself. Oh that's why I urge when I put an opinion out there I urge people call disagree with me because I think that's how you get into a worthwhile conversation But but the the fairness doctrine a win away and that gave birth to rush limbaugh and Fox News and a and a whole panoply of conservative media that basically You know here's one example of this is coming in Vermont now. There was somebody. Put up a post on a Vermont version of conservative media. Just this past weekend talking about Obama Obama being very bad for press freedom and and I'm able to say that Obama is very bad for was very bad for pressroom us terrible on that stuff. I don't have time to sign all the cases aces now but But that was one of the worst aspects of his presidency. And I'm happy to talk about that as a as a somebody's working journalism my whole career. I really care about it. And he was bad and and I. I don't mind mentioning that even though I think a lot of people perceive me as probably more more of an Obama supportive and say a trump supporter. Okay but one thing I never hear from the conservative media that if they're just sort of Vermont these days is is. I've never heard any of them. Say That trump is really really bad in the following aspect you Kevin No. I've heard I've heard lukewarm complaints about oh I wouldn't have said that. And he shouldn't have said that and that was but overall he's great but overall silence. Yeah silence aures great. Yeah and and And so I I think that's a big difference but anyway I'm coming from my perspective. Dave I agree with you. One Hundred Percent Obama tried to put journalists in jail. Yeah and he did put journalists in Joe Bad news bad news. We think we're coming up on top of the hour here. Is that right Dana in a few minutes. Okay well we okay. We got a little all time left now. Jim Are you still there no okay. Jim's gone and and and Kevin I. I do think that this is worth really pointing out here that There are there are conservative media outlets out there who almost never say anything critical of the conservative media and and the conservative politicians whereas the New York Times when Democrats go off the rails. They pointed out gats. Hey I for this half hour segment how he got the correct hugh here. I think we're going to wrap this up. But Kevin Ellis. Thanks very much for coming and and let's go to some. CBS News at the top of the hour. Mike Smith's GonNa be my next guest after ten. Take the stress out of holiday. Shopping at the almost world-famous Warren store door. We have something for everyone on your list from toys to be your jewelry to wine clothing to your logs. 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We'll get these specific dates when Mike joins being just a moment but Wanted to you. Go first to Steve Futterman. CBS News we hear his voice a lot on the top of the hour and bottom of the hour news breaks here on wd and it's really great to get talked with with him. One on one Steve Good Morning. Thanks for joining me. Great to be with you. Hey let me check in with you. I just wanted to kind of get a preview of coming distractions or whatever recall that The impeachment hearings resume tomorrow. They go Tuesday Wednesday Thursday this week. That's right there will be eight witnesses testifying this week and up. I think they're going to be interesting. Witnesses of I thought last week. Catch some interest as well but these may actually be more interesting in the fact that some of these people may talk about about more firsthand dealings. They had with some of the issues. Involved you may recall that one of the Main things the Republicans tried to show so was that many of these people did not have first-hand connections with any of the dealings many of these things were second hand And they brought it up quite a bit. We have people closer to the top. I think this week and we'll see what happens. I mean obviously we know the tactics that are being used by both sides and We'll see what they can can do. Will there be anything new coming out. That's hard to say Much of the information that we heard last week was things that hit emerged before through either syrup leaks or the transcripts that were released from the closed door hearings. I the the the one one witness they seem to be generating a lot of headlines. Already one of the upcoming with Gordon Silent. He was on the he was on a on the phone with the president. We're told From a restaurant in Kiev correct correct. That's right now one thing that's interesting about him is that he's over to Europe while to Change Your testimony at times it may sound strange To your knee me but you are allowed to change your testimony. He has changed his testimony from the first time he appeared before the closed door hearing he adjusted his testimony only to revise it. Just say well on this issue I was on and the thing that he was basically talking about that he adjusted for was. Did you ever hear the president talk about a quid pro quo. Initially he said no and then later on he seemed to indicate that he has heard a quid pro quo offered by the president so that could be just went and brushed up on his Latin. I don't know but Oh yeah did you ever write I. Now I know what a quid pro quo is. I can but he also didn't mention even even even in the second round The July twenty sixth phone call from the restaurant. Whoa yes like? We did not even know about that until last week. So maybe he wasn't even questions about that so interesting for them as well. I think you got a question about you know. was there anything else you needed to tell us. Certainly I mean he got a pretty good invitation. You should whether whether he's not taking it as as he might have is going to be open to any culpability. I don't know we just have a couple of minutes left. I wanted to run a theory by and see what you think about it. I've I've often wondered whether this idea of getting dirt on Joe Biden or hundred Biden would be worth so you know basically risking your presidency over. I mean it just strikes me as pretty right pretty small price. Yeah looking back at it. Obviously not I mean Different people different ways. There are people who think it's I've heard. Republicans who support the president say. It's not such a big deal what he was doing doing your allow. You know. It's all part of the the the the though the gamesmanship of campaigning. The fact that you had a foreign country involved though and and the fact that some people feel that that was what was being offered. There you're going to get the military aid the the military eight the US. If you help us that bothered lots of people but of of course looking back and it probably not the best idea. This and Could the bigger prize slot problems. I mean I just I get this question. Could the the bigger prize really have been making Putin happy. Because imagine if you if you end up cutting off the military Ukraine that would fit right in this pattern of. There's is an hour Russian flag flying over a former. US based in Syria NATO's been greatly weakened from the very beginning of the trump administration just by his comments and his sort of you know very apparent lack of lack of support. I mean in so many ways. He's done things which might be seen as as essentially pleasing Putin and I'm wondering if this could have been part of that same pattern. Oh no definitely I mean when you have dealings with Ukraine yes that can sometimes get involved but I I'm not sure that this was one of those things where He was talking about the nine. The military to to fleas prove obviously Putin with pleased if he didn't get the aid Putin you would think the way putting up his not want a strong Ukraine. He wants to control Ukraine. We we know that. But I'm not sure that I I don't think that necessarily we've seen any indication that that was necessarily the driving gene points for this remember. Giuliani was talking about almost openly. They wanted to get dirt and unbinding was very very open about it at some points. I don't again. I don't know if that was really what he was doing there. Many times what the president has done has been interpreted by his critics and even supporters sometimes as exactly what Putin wants and it's not really in the US interests but it's in a Putin interests. Yes if this it happened if he denied the claim the Yes. There would be some Putin more. But I don't think we've ever heard anything to suggest that that was really the the main reason he wanted to possibly not deny the eight. It did seem that he did want to get some jurors or continue the investigation on the man who at that time and they continue Oughta be because the biggest obstacle to win a reelection if he gets the nomination all Steve Futterman CBS. I I WANNA thank you so much for joining me this morning. I I think I've used up your promise time so I'll let you go but let's do this again. You have that sound hearings. Pollini are very fast fascinating. I'm old enough to remember the Watergate hearings scale and I think if you approach them in the The the right way I agree with the president. You can district person still very interesting hearing well actually one last question on the hearings. Yeah do you know what time they start the next three days. I believe they're going with the start as I'm not one hundred percents believe they're gonNA start like nine eight am nine am. Well thanks for telling me. Because I'm actually trying to figure out the impact on my little radio radio program here which usually goes from nine to eleven so it's just a little bit logistical question to wrap it up with a thanks for. Thanks again Steve. Ten and they went to nine. Nine dollar hold me to that. But that's my guess okay. Great thanks Nice. You had next gas is. I've already advertised a couple times on the program. This morning is Mike Smith. He is the The newly returned I guess is the best way to describe it Secretary of Human Services for the State of Egmont Governor Phil Scott appointed him to the job Month or so ago and Mike tells tells me he's been on the job of by three weeks now and Mike. Of course. A lot of our listeners will remember Was In this In the very seat where I am I think for For a while Mike. How long did he do the show here? Two and a half years and a half years open mic. It was called so And he did a really credible job with it and I. It's it's great to have him back. I might and if you got a couple of pointers and ask them one or off the air in a few minutes. So what do I need to improve my quit Instead of we'll we won't talk about that on the ends then we'll talk about this really important the job Mike has Heading up the the largest agency in state government and Mike. Thank you so much for joining me this morning David. It's a pleasure to be here. Dave I really appreciate the opportunity and nothing. Nothing S- well daynuss board has changed. I got a new board pretty sweet. He's got his new toys in there. I can't see wrangled do headphones. We'll see if we can work that out at some point. Sardines are still here. All sorts of things I tell people I take no credit or blame blame for any the interior decorating his office. Because my two hours a day just come and go and I and I really have not had time to paint the place or anything so it would hold your right anyway. Mike You are This is the second tour of duty as Human Services Secretary you. You had the job under the governor Douglas. Back in the mid I part of the first decade of this Millennium Right. That's right in two thousand five. I was originally. The secretary of Administration went over to Secretary Human Services for a year and then came back as secretary of administration and and it was I say this David I I mean not many people get the opportunity that that I have gotten an I. I feel blessed in order to get this opportunity and I thank governor Scott for pointing me because back then it was the and still is to this day. One of the most rewarding experiences that did I ever had is being secretary of Human Services and during that year I was there. We did a lot of things global commitment for example some of the things that are still in place place global commitment. We looked at blueprint for health. We we did vital That year we did the catamounts health. We did a lot of things that were very very interesting. And I just feel Privileged to be back. That's great now global commitment. Of course that was a healthcare scare Adam as well to refresh on what that was. Basically what happened is that the state looking at its Medicaid program in how it it was organized was projecting an over six hundred million dollar deficit global commitment allowed us to get a little bit more cap space. What is called a Cap At the same time allowed US flexibility. In how we could spend it and we in in doing that. We were able to eliminate the a six hundred twenty million dollar deficit. I remember hearing some legislative testimony wants about cap space and I was thinking to myself or are we talking about an NBA payroll i. It's as complicated as that. Believe me. It is complicated is that it is really interesting that some of the issues. I'm I'm dealing with now. Are the same issues that I was dealing with fourteen years ago. Including we're going to have to renegotiate this global commitment waiver which has been negotiated negotiated one time before. But now it's coming up for renewal in twenty twenty one. Wow Okay so that's that's GonNa be a big project Tell me broadly sadly what else has changed about a variety of human services posture in the last fourteen years. Let me The tone has changed. I think two into things if I answer your question directly to things one well actually three things the size of the The let may start with their the size of the agency. I mean it's three three thousand five hundred employees. That's relatively the same when I was here. The budgets bigger two point. Five billion billion dollars has The same departments the was it. What was the budget previous? You know I can't remember it. I think it was like one point seven. Maybe one point a commensurate with inflation. I think health care is really Taken some of that Ah You know growth in into consideration. I WanNa talk about that in in just a minute So you know the department. The agency has six departments Dale DCF director Department of Corrections Mental Health Health and then diva which is the Medicaid portion of of it where there has been a lot of growth in that area and if I had to say one thing that's changed back fourteen eighteen years ago. Thirteen years ago it was fourteen years ago it was healthcare was probably thirty. Five forty percent of my time Now it's probably fifty eighty five to fifty percent of my time to fifty five percent of my time so that has changed the other thing Dave that I think has changed. I just just. The sort of the atmosphere about government has changed in those times That time period the tone is different in that and it will get to my philosophy here in a minute but the tone is that I see the tone shifting to government is the enemy and and I don't believe that I believe there is a proper role for government to intercede into people's lives to to make their lives better or to protect people in the state of Vermont. And you know that's why I'm I thought this position originally was so rewarding morning. That's why I am so grateful to have this position again because look in earlier in my life I have been homeless i. I haven't been out on the streets But I I didn't have a home I've been broke You know in my younger year my High school year I would I would say I was rowdy as As you look at the various things that I used to do I used to act out in dangerous and unproductive ways but there was always a friend there to help me to guide me to take me under their wing into help me get through those times. I've you the agency just like that just that friend for people. That don't have the friends that I had an able to really help people and I view the agency all all three thousand five hundred of those people that are in the agency as willing are have the same sort of mindset that I do how to help people and move forward wardhaugh be that friend and move forward and the people that I've met both then and now they're dedicated to doing that. I think that is That is something that really Rewarding to me when you hear that The government is the enemy kind of stuff. Do you feel like that. There's any any any is at an echo or trickle down from the famous comment that the scariest nine words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help at Ronald Reagan quote The one thing that I I don't think so I think a lot of people I think. Social media is part of it that there is is this sense that you can criticize anything and do anything And you know part of our business my old business. Your Business is is to evaluate various public policy pro- programs to do various things to to in some cases criticized but it's gone beyond a different level than I I remember. I guess that's the tone change that that that I'm talking about it's gone to a level You know where we were happy. You too have a nation full of criticize irs but not a nation full of doers. And I think you know I really respect the people that are out there doing things. It's the very hard thing. So like the people that worked for the agency the DCFS an apartment for children and families. came in for some criticism. Just a couple of weeks ago long long. Piece in seven days for instance about the OPIOID epidemic. End Did you think that was fair. You know one of the things that I think we have to look. Do we do things completely right. No but do we do on a daily basis is the preponderance of what we do. Good for Vermont Monitors and I think the answer to that is yes. For example there was a a death of county of where mother was Allegedly murdered heard and her two kids as infant and toddler were in that apartment building for a couple of days before the woman was found and it was RDC RDC F- workers that went in there. Took care of those kids made sure they had medical care made sure that they were placed with a relative and they spent the entire our weekend almost twenty four seven making sure those kids were were okay. Those are the stories that don't get into the news but those are the stories that happen every day. And that's it's something that I think is Is Things we lose. Focus on as we. That is tough work Just it's amazing other times flyer we got about at six minutes left here Mike but we have a caller will go quickly to Michael from Barry Town. Good Morning Michael. Good Morning. Good Morning Mike Wall. Since I've talked with you you good morning Michael. I admit that I do not know enough to evaluate this current debate on health insurance and the idea of Medicare for all if structured so that literally. Everybody is protected protected for for everything that they have to deal with. You have an opinion as to whether that's the best way go here. It seems like whatever we've tried has not worked worked well and I can't compare apples for apples and any of this. I don't know enough. Well well let me let me try to answer the question. Perhaps without getting into the debate of Medicare for all. Because I'm not as familiar with that debate as perhaps I should after three weeks but three weeks ago. Yeah so and I'll give you a sort of a general philosophy. I think we have two choices in healthcare. Do nothing or continue to watch. Healthcare costs climb uncontrolled or at least do something and not worsen the condition but do something to attempt to control healthcare costs and When we talk about controlling healthcare costs I think you really have to look at it holistically and how we receive care? We a half to control healthcare costs. I don't care if it's Medicare for all or if it's private insurance if we don't if we don't control healthcare costs then we're all sunk sunk in terms of Of where we're going. So what does this mean when I say control healthcare costs it means to me concentrating on primary care. It means per van of care means looking at the patient in treating a patient before they get sick with preventable diseases. Such as A heart conditions heart disease Aziz Diabetes it means reimbursing provider for those activities in a way that doesn't That concentrates concentrates on preventive medicine and and doesn't reimburse them for how they how many tests that they do. How many procedures that they do you like the all payer model you know I? It's it's still an experiment. I think there's been some Medicaid budgeting that has made it predictable predictable because of I like to call it the all you know. I don't like here. I like to call it. The accountable care model same idea. We're just hour's discrepancy but all paired it just goes over people's heads accountable means that he is that. Somebody is looking at accountable. So has it made Medicaid budgeting more predictable. Yes has it Made more providers that are joining. Yes however One care for example apple needs to put more accountability into the system and they need to tell people what they're doing in order to do that. So that's That's a short answer to a long quest. Yeah boy and say this is why we're going to have you back Mike Smith if you're willing and at a later date to talk about a lot more of this stop because So much going on human services just quickly in the last couple of minutes here your thoughts. On the justice reinvestment efforts the The correction system really trying trying to cut the number of inmates and Do we need to do more of that. I think so and I think we there's a couple things that we need to do We we need to look at our correctional facilities. This was fourteen years ago. Dave Our correctional facilities from an infrastructure perspective were pretty Rough shape rough shape. aped they're still the same now. We have to address how we're going to Move Corrections in the future. Bring people home and House those people I would think in fourteen years Ibn rougher shape because they are eventually I mean that that population frankly is going to give a beating of a building beating. Don't you think I I do. I've been to northwestern Western I've been to new poor. I plan on visiting all our correctional facilities and get a better evaluation. Better knowledge of what's going. I thought you were going to say the biggest is changing your between two thousand five and now is the impact of the opioid epidemic but I wonder. Do you getting a handle on that. I think we're starting to to look at. It was starting back fourteen years ago and we started the deter program for example and those sort of things heroin was was rampant in the state eight. And we're trying to address it opioids in a broader sense. Now I've had An impact on the state. I think the hub and spoke in what we've done in that and try to treatment and it's a it's a it's a systematic Attack that we have to do from education to rehabilitation and to enforcement as we move forward. There's so much on your plate Mike Smith I I remember talking with Al Gore Bay once your predecessor and he was maybe having a rough day or something but he just looked like he was really it was a struggle and and And I think that it's man what a what a job and I admire anybody who's willing to take it on as thank you so much for coming in Mike Smith the new New and old secretary of Human Services And we'll have you back Unfortunately we're about out of time for now now but Thanks thanks a million. Thank you and we will be back after some bottom of the hour. CBS News a couple of words from our our sponsors. And we're GONNA have some open phone lines. I think it lasts half hour and we will go from there. We hear a lot about shopping local in here in the mad river valley. 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Especially when Gordon Silent is testifying about his Phone call thinks restaurant and Keith to president trump and several other really interesting witnesses upcoming as well and some of them some including Mr Sunland he of course is the Ah Embassador to the European Union. Who got himself involved in some of the Ukraine dealings earlier this year And we'll have some important stuff I think to say providing he's truthful and so on Anyway these hearings are going to be broadcast live via. CBS On wd next three days all three three days starting at nine. Am and let's see. CBS is talking about them going into the afternoon. Each occasion I think that means means yeah. It looks like it. Looks like that means that the Dave Graham show is gonNA take a break but That's okay I gotta get a painting project on at home so we will We will Maybe get some of that done this week and one moment. Pardon me we Continue into our final hour of the program this morning. I'm one of the folks to weigh in here about what they heard last week. From from Mr Taylor Mr Ken on Wednesday to State Department officials William Taylor now the current Sort of acting ambassador in Ukraine. I think I think official titles Shares of the fair or something like that which basically means he's in charge of affairs as they sometimes throw some French at you and that diplomatic core but the Mister Taylor was testifying along with George Kenton of the State Department official on Wednesday Friday very interesting stuff with Marie Ivanovich the former the former Ambassador to the To cave to Ukraine and she was ousted from that job back in May She says after a sort of a smear campaign launched against her and carried out by a A Rudy Giuliani that president. Trump's personal lawyer and She was very compelling witness. I thought on on Friday. I mean I was watching with the hearings and boy it struck me that the The Democrats that have sort of prosecution here in the House could not have asked for a better witness She was poised careful and it was on the moments when she seemed to be invited or had an opportunity. This kind of go out on a limb him and Perhaps say some things which were more speculative or more critical she resisted. She was just the facts Ma'am and it was Quite an impressive impressive performance by Murray Ivanovich And as I mentioned the hearings resume tomorrow. Nine o'clock each day on broadcasting live here on WD Dav And I'm curious to know we got about twenty minutes to go here and they've Graham show and I want to open the phone lines and ask you listeners out there to tell me what you make of what happened last week. What you expect to hear this week And the phone number here in Waterbury two four four one seven seven seven. The toll free number is one one eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five Is this whole thing a sham. Do you think it's just basically a democratic Life performance playacting here in trying to gene outrage where none is deserved at Cetera. A toward this president. Obviously he's not had been the favourite of most Democrats in Congress or or at large in the country in the last three years that he's been in office and so maybe maybe that's the best way to view thing. This is just somebody saw an opportunity to watch what they hoped would be the final fatal attack against against this presidency and That's certainly something we hear from a lot of commentators on the in the more conservative media out there And so I'm curious to know what folks think about about all of this Once once again two four four one seven seven seven or one eight seven seven to nine one eight two five five Meanwhile you know it's it's interesting when something like impeachment hearings are going on that how the news becomes dominated by. Hi this one sort of narrative but Other stuff has been happening and Other you know some media there are some reporters who aren't assigned to cover these areas. They you gotta figure out something else to do. One thing and outfit called Marketwatch did they. Actually went and looked at some of the economic indicators. As I mentioned this briefly back around the top of the hour I think but I think it bears looking at a little more carefully and the The market watch piece especially especially was talking about you know looking at the performance of the economy since president trump came into office. He is talked many many times about how it is the the strongest economy ever. And it's a truly remarkable thing that he's been able to do with the economy a lot of a lot of President trump supporters are are buying that and and And they really They're really calling this his strong suit etc And they think that his is the the trade disputes with China are going to end up being being a good thing for the US economy and trying to reverse some trends that the that the In our in our trade situate our foreign trade situation the market watch which is an online publication of looks looks at At the economy at the markets. I think you you would understand from its name has been doing some analysis on economic conditions and Now one thing that you've got to say that the the stock market the Dow Jones Industrial Hit A new record. High on Friday surpassed the twenty eight thousand bark. That's that's a very very strong performance. And if that is the the sole measure of of the economic performance in the United States of America. You gotTA say boy. Things are booming German and But then there are other other issues in the economy's well For instance How how are we doing on providing jobs for folks and Here's a His really looking at a very interesting chart in Market Watch The the job performance formats here. This chart indicates is following the trend. That was in place in the mid teens of this decade and of course we had it different president up through up through twenty sixteen and According to this market what watch chart there's a line here for Reported number of jobs obscene millions and number of jobs if the previous trend had continued the previous trend of course being the one that existed up through two thousand sixteen and the line signed for the previous trend. Continuing is actually slightly higher. Just a bit higher Not not remarkably so but Then the line for actual job performance points since two thousand sixteen job growth performance. I should say and so that that to me is quite interesting. It says that that This is not really been A giant transformation of our economy is as some people have tried to paint it including. I think it's fair to say the President of the United States Donald J trump and You you know I I. I think that you've got a measure that also against federal spending in the efforts to stimulate the economy that the president is put in place The the big tax cuts at the end of two thousand seventeen Were it was said designed to stimulate job growth in the country It looks like we could have done without them. Frankly and And the country would have been just about where it is in terms of actually a little better in terms of job growth. So I don't know I think that there is some some reasonable symbol skepticism. There I have another another area where I wanted to explore a little bit but I'm GonNa take a phone call here from Rama. I Rama from Williamstown. Good Morning. Hey Good morning if I had a trillion dollars that I could just borrow and throw out into I economies. It would look look like a trillionaire wouldn't I I. That's it's interesting. You bring that up. Because that's exactly the point. I wanted to get the next is that is that normally. See The old style Keynesian economics the government. uh-huh spends a lot of money when the economy's doing poorly I mentioned this on the show. Pre listen closely. I'm sure you've heard it. And and here the the government the chief you spoke to the government the president of the United States is telling us the economy's booming more than it ever has before in American history. So why do you need a trillion dollars worth of stimulus. He allies anyway. That's all I mean. Basically that's that's what he does is is live. So you know I. It's it's what it is it something helping people. I think are finally coming to an understanding and I would look for to him actually having some courage in his life for a change in showing up in front of the a House Committee for the impeachment hearings so he can be questioned under oath. The one well Oh you listen now. He's not the one that started already. Did all remember this started decades ago and this is really the point I wanted to get to. I was making a semi humorous. I hope reference to Peter Welch his comments last week. Actually actually the Jim Jim Jordan reference. But go ahead. You're not interested in their cutesy little comments decades ago. But you know listen. This all started decades ages ago. But what I really call Dope Abou was a bit about the press. You've been talking about earlier. And and how the press started doing different coverage over the decades each and started trying to put in this phony you know we gotta give both sides equal airtime and how it and it didn't really work out that way and there seems just to be this constant push by people from the press pray and you know. Listen this isn't personal but I do think you're one of the people the blame for it along with many others who at like the The national and local press has never had a position that it's taken can on on issues throughout the history of this country. And if you go back to probably person who could be called one of the granddaddies of Modern Day Newspapers the papers. Benjamin Franklin used to actually write letters to his own paper under a pseudonym just so he could go after his political enemies without put in his own name to wait and the press has not gotten any better about this since then and even in the news coverage and if there's been one major failing or no not not one there's been multiple major feelings in the press but if the biggest one is probably the lack of trying to provide any historical context for what gets reported on on any given day and leads to this attitude that Oh this is what's happening today and nobody's thinking about well. How did we get to the point? We're this is happening today. And when you try to have that discussion. The press is absolutely incapable of getting into that discussion. BECAUSE THEY WANNA keep well. This is what this person said. This is what another person said. But there's a history behind our politics of today trump. The Republican Party is not the trump party. It's the Republican Party. Trump is part of this Republican Party. And what they've been building up over decades of time period and by the way I'll say the same for the Adama crafts because they've been such a bunch of weaklings I call them surrender monkeys that you know they built. They've helped get us to the point where we're at two you and people have to understand this is what's so important about these impeachment hearings in that over the last half decade where we've seen extreme amount amount of power gets shifted over to the executive branch of our government. We need legislative branch. And frankly I don't care if it's Against the president is it and I like or former president or against the president. I don't like we need a congress. It will reassert itself because historically they've given up so much power we we have seen a suffering because of this and when people look around and say Obama was acting like a dictator. Well you mentioned in your press he was trying to shut down the leakers big time. So Yeah Obama did have as bad sides and we never got to address it Because the Democrats and now finally we have somebody they they just push it to such an extreme. Maybe we can address. You know protecting understanding that our governments for ourselves but anyway the main point I wanna make just historical oh contacts you one caller called in about the Powell memo. You know having these historical context and presented regularly in light of today's events. Well I mean that's that's one of the reasons why I I. I think it's important to look at. The statistics related related to criminal convictions by administration over the past fifty years. This is what I'm talking about a couple of times on the show recently and And and you know and I think you see I have a very good friend who said to me repeatedly over the last couple of years both sides do it. They're equally corrupt. And and if you look at criminal criminal convictions and and again. I chose that category not indictments not not charges made by people. But this is an independent judiciary right either. The person pleading guilty and admitting they did something wrong or or an independent judiciary the courts determining that. They've done something wrong and it's more than a hundred to ten And you can look at the economy's I I mean I don't care how you want to measure it. You look at any part the economy whether it's national deficit National Debt Wall Street returns you know it's there. There's a whole long list list of items that get better under democratic administrations as opposed to Republican ones. And they'd never you know but the price and in what people have to do the problem is the historical context has to be repeated as often as events of today do because otherwise these people just lose sight of it and and what you're saying as true as it is but unless it's repeated every time that that somebody gets out and says oh the Democrats rats are just as corrupt as the Republicans unless something like that is actually repeated. People don't understand that you know. Listen the truth is very obvious. You know and I and it's opposite from the statement that everybody does it Here's here's one last point before we we do need to break shortly. But I I just want to say again that the One of the issue here is that the press get beat up all the time particularly from the right. I mean if you turn on Fox News which is you know. Very heavily watched cable Cable News Network out there. You constantly hear that the the left-wing media that are destroying the country or the enemies in the American people just as the President says and so on so forth. And so there's this constant drumbeat that I as we as a working reporter for more than thirty years. I I I heard all all the time and and you know when one one analogy or metaphor I would use would be safe. You're driving down a road and your the person in the front passenger seat. Let's say your spouse is harping on you all the time about driving too close to the center line. You're going to tend to drive to the right. You know you're GonNa you gotTa Start Heading over toward shoulder just to keep the peace. And just because you know you're getting this constant drumbeat of criticism of hewing too much to the center and and they were really did seem to be this concerted strategy this talk about how the press were way too liberal and all during in this era when this is happening you know there was one person in the national media who had a regular seat on on this week show on ABC who had a regular. I'M GONNA Weekly Column in Newsweek magazine. And it was the leadoff op ED writer for the Washington Post. His name was George will And and you know a major major major player in setting the opinion climate of this country was George will has George wildman mostly liberal mostly conservative. Would you say. Obviously he's a he would consider himself a conservative. I here's the headline my final comment on that. Is You know because the descriptions since you're using as part of the problem this left that's middle this right and it really doesn't hold up and people understand this and by the way the press us is made up of adults and you guys. If in the process he can't stand the heat on just like I'd say to other people get out of the kitchen but It's it's a matter of getting out there and telling people what's going on and over and over staying true to your mission and not worrying arena about who's going to be the latest name. I agree I mean you know and and I say that for the most part. I've tried to withstand EH criticism but I I'm sure that the atmosphere full of it just has to seep in occasionally Anyway Rama I gotta go. I appreciate the call and let's go to day from plainfield. What do Dave I want? First of all I wanted to tell you. I'm I'm my family's from Ukraine and I still have my parents and I still have family that lives in Krakow and family that lives in northern Iran. And I've been on the radio for thirty five years. Greg Hooker knows me Greg Seoul station and I wanted to ask you. You've been through. It said I just turn on the radio. So you've even here for thirty years. I was asking I ask everybody just questions. How many times have you said the name various Touro when you as thirty years you've been on the radio first correction? I haven't been on the radio for thirty years. I worked for thirty years more than thirty years for the Associated Press Bureau. In Montpellier mainly print out that we did ransom broadcast copy. Happy but it was mainly the work that went under my violin and so on was was all for for print consumption. So there's that I've been on the radio as regular host of this show. Oh since March or late February I guess it was a twenty eighteen so almost two years. Now it'll be my second anniversary upcoming a couple of months So let's go to your question again though. I didn't catch the name. You're asking Berry Berry Sotero. I go around asking I. I've done radio for thirty five years on the first person into my same. You understand my family's immigrants. We don't understand your country we know. My family lives in my film. Iranian Kurds Roma and They lived in Ukraine Ukraine. See people getting fused about Ukraine. I was told them my life. I was Ukrainian and No it's a big place like California and my family wandered into Ukraine from northern Iran and my oldest son by some miracle actually found. I don't know why they helped. So that's what I'm saying Ukraine's a very complex issue and I've never heard anybody. Anybody studying Alexis on Ukraine. But anyway I just go around asking I just I'm quite I'm GonNa Hurry this. Okay my answer your questions. I've never I don't I don't know this name. I don't think I've ever invented it. Okay well this is okay on this is all by by the Way Greg O.. Tell You I'm the Guy I go on the radar gun shows your fears. They've and I've told people the Alan Greenspan. We used to eat a golf course when I was a kid on Academy Alan Greenspan. At least I tell you Greenspan's stories and all these things you know what I hate. I hate to tell you the Coming up on the top of the hour here. I wish you'd call it a little earlier but I got to wrap it up because we are in our last thirty seconds here and I want to tell folks that Tune in tomorrow for the impeachment hearings. Dave Graham show. I think we'll be back on Friday and have a great day everybody.

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Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Police Reform and Congress' COVID-19 Response

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Senator Joe Manchin Democrat from West Virginia senator mentioned great to see you. You're working from your office in the Senate Hart Office Building. It's great to see you virtually and great to talk to you. To be with you as always. Enjoy your show very much. Thank you, so let's start. Audience. We're recording this on June. twenty-fourth and I wanNA talk about something with the center of the just happened this day, which is a vote of the Senate for not to proceed to the Republican sponsored legislation on police reform Senator Mansion was one of the Democrats another was Doug Jones of Alabama and then an independent. Angus King voted with Republicans. All the other Democrats voted against it means is in the Senate for the time being this legislation is dead unless there is some resolution created by both parties senator mentioned. Explain your vote and tell us what you think we are on this. You know I can understand the caucuses, basically their positions taking. As a Democrat we have to understand. We're not in the majority in the Senate Mitch McConnell and the Republicans are. He sets the agenda and he says the tone he put the bill. I wish to bill would have been worked through the judiciary committee it was not. That means that there should be a process on the floor than open amendment. Process for amendments should be able to be made since we've been working committee. A lot of my my Senate Caucus Democrats. Pushed for that was hoping that would happen, but then they have lack of trust that he would actually do an amendment process. I just. I felt because of Tim. Tim Scott Your friend of mine and Cory. Booker, and Carmela Harris are three. African American. Senators. Hopefully they would get together and bring us all together and work it out. And they did for a while work on this, but then it went in two different ways. So Tim being in the majority of the Republicans that was built are gonNA use the we call it the underlying bill. I. I thought it'd be hard pressed for Mitch McConnell not to have an open process. I thought since he said he would do it. And he said there'd be amendments. I wanted to see if he would. And I think it's a debate we have to have. We have to have a debate on on basically tro colds, and all the different things, and and and qualified immunity and the things that basically right now is. Kind of the poison pill from whatever side you may be on. And, I thought that would be a good debate. We'd all be educated and learn a lot for those of US especially. Don't sit on judiciary because we wouldn't have seen that debate happen, right. That's why I voted for not thought it was time that we do not I've always said this major. If I can't explain back home in West, Virginia, I can't vote for. I couldn't explain not voting to get on the bill because I'm not sure if that bill is gonNA, come back, I. Don't know if it's a high priority for Mitch McConnell. Who sets the agenda. and. That's what I was concerned about so I thought we'd better take advantage of the time and I didn't want to perfect. To be the defeated, the good understood I. WanNa play a sound by since you mentioned Senator Kamala Harris. She was on MSNBC earlier today, and was informed of your intention to vote with Republicans, and this is the process upon what she was informed in her reaction I want to get your assessment of and on the other side. Cleanse to vote yes, on the procedural motion. Let me get your reaction to that. From Joe Manchin. I'm not going to vote. Yes, I'm voting. No and I'm following the recommendation of hundreds of civil rights organizations including the NAACP. The Lawyers Committee for civil rights are being just I could go on down the list. We should vote this down this Republican Bill, which is empty, which is a shell which is lip service with no teeth to an issue that the people marching shouting by the thousands and fifty states of the United States of America are are calling for and demanding of their government. Senator was the Republican bill an empty shell that only gives lip service to those people who are marching in the street I've talked to Tim Scott on this because I'm thinking. Chamblee Pappas much concern interested anybody. Tim. Is the one is informed me that he'd been stopped as a US, senator entering the capital. He talked about that on this very program many months ago. Yeah, and major song thinking I have all the respect, but. I'm not sure if that was held back from. The leadership Republican or the White House or whatever I know. The president the President basically getting executive order on establishing national standards for law enforcement. and. That wasn't intimidated. Tim Thought that was the executive order that the president did there was some things I would have liked to have seen, but timber's open to debating and voting on amendments. So, even if his bill lack some of the things and I will say that Communists and cory's bill was much. More detailed by an explicitly, but the thing that gave me heartburn on. That bill was one thing which was qualified immunity. I had all my police forces around the state of West Virginia's Joe. If you do away with that explicitly, basically, we're going to have a hard time. Keeping the people we already have let alone attracting anybody else in law enforcement for my audience that may not notice well as you do. Senator, what is qualified immunity wiser concern of your police department, so the Police Department qualifying committed. And basically the way the courts had invoked this. Is Pretty. Much police are doing their job to protect society, so they're not gonNA bring civil suits. And very seldom ever criminal suits, and that's why you see most of them that don't get convicted. So now there's we're trying to set up procedure of how you should police type of of lethal force or nonlethal force that you should or should not years. the training should go. A continuing education if you would. On racial matters, people need to know and we have a much better job I'm told that we're a country that does lease the least amount and most civilized country as training of our police officers. We put him out. into the streets. Much more that can be done, but unified are qualified immunity, but secrets Carter Ball. To basically do whatever you think is necessary and a police situation right and. We've seen that you know because of the telecast. And all the everyone was the cameras now. We're saying that that didn't make sense and when you had the situation that we have George Floyd for the whole world to watch. No matter who this person is no matter what color of their skin may be. And have the person that administered that lethal. Blow putting this neck. Neon a neck. Doing such a nonchalant. This is my job. What the heck. It went through me like I. Know Every American. Is the idea of getting rid of qualified immunity a deal breaker for you in any legislation going forward. Not Right now, Mike Brown from Indiana has a compromise and we're looking at it how you have a hybrid of this. We want protection. We don't think lawsuits because you said he might have handcuffed you too much or this or that. For every little incident. Basically in recourse when there's criminal actions, the police officers, and basically it's caught with with mandatory body cameras. We can verify. You. Don't have to worry about someone being close enough to take a video of their own telephone, but basically being able to have recorded, and then be held accountable, and when there is unjustified, lethal force, they will be held and not be protected by qualified immunity understood sometimes when you have a procedural vote like this, it's a shock to the system and everyone reassesses. Is that what you think are? Will here or is this debate over in the Senate? Tell you that depends on. One Person If he truly wants you know and this is where this is. Where the calculation of my democratic colleagues markets Congress the majority of except for the three of us because I thought I'm not sure if Mitch McConnell really wants this piece of legislation. It's a good messaging thing for him now to be able to say hey, look there. The Democrats didn't want. They don't want to help. RELEASE WANNA protect. They don't want law and order, and we're the party of law and order. Wait a minute. That's not the case at all so if he wants it. It'll happen understood. That's the voice of Joe Mentioned Senator West Virginia Democrat our special guests this week tuned for segment to the takeout coming up in just a second. From CBS News, this is the takeout with Major Garrett. Welcome back special guest Democrat from West. Virginia Senator Joe Manchin sort mentioned continuing our conversation on the legislative future policing reform I wanNA. Play with sound bite from house speaker, NANCY PELOSI TO OUR CBS colleague Steve Futterman. And she was talking about the Senate. Republican bill and the language is pretty harsh and I want to get your reaction to ardent play that please for something to happen. They're going to have to face the realities. Of police brutality rally of the need for justice and policing and the recognition that there many many good people and Law Enforcement, but not all and that we have to address. Those concerns so when they admit that and and. Had some suggestions that are worthy of consideration, but so far they were trying to get away with murder actually. The murder of jewelers born. Get, away with murder of George Floyd. You talked a moment ago about the lack of trust and. Give and take. I'm gathering from your perspective litter. Doesn't help. It makes it makes I have all the respect for Nancy Pelosi, really do get along fine with her. She's worked with US and helped us on pensions for miners and healthcare for our minors, and so many of the things we've worked on. But on this, we just have a difference. They passed the piece of legislation, or they will pass a piece of legislation. That basically would have been something to go to conferees on. Conference yes, a conference between the House and the Senate right. Down mccollum conferees, and you look at the two different bills side by side and work out what one except one concede this one will basically went on. This one will compromise on something else, and that's what we hope that it would happen, but rhetoric makes it difficult. These officers that are going to be held for the murder of of George Floyd will be held accountable, and we'll be punishable by the law as extremely as anyone should. No matter where they are police, officer or not. And so with that being said again. You know we've got good people who have knowledge Tim Scott Corey accord boker. Kamla hairs easier, bright intelligent people that understand the system. And we look and put the politics aside major and get to the crux of the bill that we can work. Other than just messaging was a bad bill was good. Bill my bills better than yours I will say. The Democrat bill was much more. Intense as far as subject by subject. Addressing everything humanly possible to choke holds lynching a federal crime. Hey, Craig goes on and on and on and these are all things that should have been debated. Why had we not unless you I thought? We had a perfect opportunity to debate it in a grand states such as US Senate floor. But do you think? Senate Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell now has what he wants, and he can move on and move on feeling. He's won the politics of this moment. I would hope that that's not the case, but I would be. Fear are surprised if it's not. MITYA's tactician. He's able to get the best spin on this humanly possible. The Democrats were not even move to debate the bill when he said I will give them amendments. But if you're willing to give him amendments, and you're willing to do everything you say, you're GonNa do Mitch. Why don't you put it back into committee and work? At the way, every bill supposed to be work through the committee. Equally so that's where the lack of trust, but I was willing I. said. This is such an important issue. It's what we're facing today. It's what's dividing our nation even further. Why wouldn't we try to get on it? I just had a different. Homeless explain understood. I want to ask you. Since we raised an issue with you about Nancy Pelosi's rhetoric. I WANNA play a sound bite from the president. From this week he was in Phoenix, and it's about this larger issue of what's going on in the streets of America, not just people protesting and raising their voices, but some of them going after monuments or statues, some of them trying to create so-called autonomous zones, and the president has put together some very sharp rhetoric about that WanNa play with sound and get your reaction. They don't love our country. The left is not trying to promote justice or equality or lift up the downtrodden. They have one goal the pursuit of their own political power, for whatever reason, but that's they go. That really seems to be their goal. Goal of their sickness, and if you give power to people that demolished monuments and attack churches, and she's city streets and set fire to buildings. Then nothing is sacred and know what is safe. Nothing is sacred, and no one is safe if the left wins Senator Mansion well. First of all. There's no one no one should absolutely anyway I'LL! Be Able to contend with violence. That's going on. We should not. That's not who we are a nation, major and and I would I would. I would import everybody. WHO believes that's the only way they can get their message across. To read the words of. Martin Luther King. Junior, concerning violence take time to read just Goo and read it. It'll tell you it gets you nowhere, but it gets worse off. It prolongs the agony. Anyone is curious can start with a letter from Birmingham jail. It's exactly correct. And I haven't read it today. Just on a pod with a bunch of students and we had, we called her healing. and. We do it every week. I hurt to healing different groups, so it's just something but on this. You can't have the leader of the free world. Continue to spouse division. You know to where it's. It's all one side's phone. You know when I became governor governor of everybody. Democrats Republicans, people voted for me. People voted against me. People didn't vote at all. Take. Office and leaders don't do that. I wish the president. I I just think it's horrible to continue to blame. It's just a left. These these people that are doing what they're doing and facing and. It might be just common criminals. They might not be in a movement I can tell you how proud I am in West Virginia. We haven't had that violence. We've had good communications. We're learning. You know. I never knew what. I just not going to have another part about basically black police officers what they're going to. Do they get different duties, or they treated differently I just found out recently from reveron English who basically learn from art. He was Martin Luther King Junior and senior was his mentor. It doesn't West Virginia now and he was telling me he says you know black black officers could arrest charge a white person with a crime. Head to get a white officer in order to do it if it was a white. Criminal. I never knew things like this. Major. We're all learning. But you have I mean my goodness as a country, we have to come together and people that want to talk about the monuments. Google Robert e Lee See what Robert Lisa nine hundred and sixty nine. Is a civilized I mean there's no way in the world is a civilized country that basically under civil discourse that we should ever memorialize honor. Any of this caused the civil discourse. He didn't want any monuments. That came about from Jim. Crow Right. And and as as a result of that observation should mighty midst to confederate officers or quote, Unquote Heroes be taken down and relevant to the National Defense Authorization Act. That's way you made a reference to it before. That's GONNA come up should. Existing US military facilities with the names of confederate officers be renamed grooming. Just tell you that came up in the NDA National Defense Authorization Act. Whoever year you know that has it has. To defend our country and my dear friend Jim Kane. I want to explain to you. He says I used to be the mayor. Of the seat of the confederacy catchment, yes. I was the governor of the State of Virginia which was the home base for the competitors. He says I never really knew until I started looking and thinking and eighteen sixty nine, he says read this one all one-sentence property. He says he says these robbery roads, and he thought it was wiser not to keep open the source of war, but to follow examples of those nation who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife. That was Robert E Lee. And you can read all you want you about Robert De leaners never anyway that he ever felt there should be any statues any moral ization, any type of naming of our military bases after a person who was part of the civil civil strife right? Yes, I think the changes are. We got some good names in some good people if you want to name him after some honorable. God fearing God loving people from West Virginia. We got some good names for you. Right, you could be medal of honor. Recipients I mean that's been suggested medal of honor recipients. Who else who could be better qualified. Absent, an option as an option, not the only option but one option. Senator Joe Manchin Democrats West Virginia's our guest. Stay tuned for segment three coming up in just a second. There are accusations. The president trump was the victim of some kind of political coup attempt perpetrated by the Obama Administration. What do you think about that all? I don't know who say's knife incident. From CBS audio, this is the takeout, and now from the Sokoll Law Home Studio in Washington. Here's major Garrett. Senator Joe Manchin Democrat. West Virginia is our guest of Senator mentioned also today we're recording this June twenty-fourth, and also say hello to all of our great radio stations around the country more than seventy of them, also hello to Sirius Xm channel, one, twenty four, and of course podcasts platforms you. Were there I in our audience on CBS, so? Senator Manchin are talking to a vast array of Americans through so many different platforms when come on the show. Federal. Court today said the Michael. Flynn case should be thrown out. It's not probably the last word, but it might be near the last word your reaction. I know Michael Flynn because Michael. Flynn was the general. Basically. I'm on armed services. We work very closely. Always like Michael Flynn was a great general, great guy easy to work with not. I don't know what happened after he left him when they started I think with. President Obama that time. Were with him, and something happened, there got sacked from the head of Defense Intelligence Agency. And just change some something, so I can't speak to that. Do you think he got railroaded? You think there was a miscarriage of justice here as the current Justice Department assert. Justice Department has a way of making you say things you don't want to say here. Don't really believe, but I really can't speak to that, but he did admit that he lied in court voluntarily though he said those words. I'm not lying to you. Okay, but if you lie and you said you lied, that'd be Kinda hard for justice bombing to make that. Kind of make you say something such as? Such as that when it didn't have to fact so I, I would say once. You've admitted to something in now because of The politics involved of the day. If you will not seems to be what it is. Pretty hard. Edge as you, no doubt are aware on social media, and even in the voices of some of your Republican colleagues, there are accusations. The president trump was. The victim of some kind of political coup attempt perpetrated by the Obama Administration would think about this. What are you talking about up? On how I can't put any? would. Totally crazy, that would not happen major. I just don't see that whatsoever and I've never seen all these. These theories about this is a people have i. don't know where they come up I. Don't know who stays. I think that I. think that covers it any reaction to John Bolton's book, did it tell you something, or does it reveal something that you didn't already know about the working to the trump White House. I haven't gotten the book. I've been reading I. Mean What Y'all been published. To sit down with it and. Not, surprising the whole thing. That that's disheartening trolley with peach metron. And John Bolton not to come forward, and says ahead and sue me up to sue me in this and that. To get me to come or I'll sue if you subpoena me the end of that. Then the house said that's the reason they bringing four because that lengthy battle. For him to take that position and be able to openly about that at the time, it happened and now to take the position and look at it because it was all about the selling of the book. It looks like they're basically he's prioritizing on it and not sincerely concerned about the country, but this is surprised me. Now. Does not surprise me. the validity of it I. Think these willing to stand by that I think his credibility has been weakened greatly. By not rising to defend the country or protect the country, looking more about protecting his. What is the status of Covid nineteen in? West Virginia right now? I think as this morning we had ninety two or ninety three deaths, which is ninety, two ninety three too many. And we're doing more testing now than we had. Thank God for that. Because first, it showed it West Virginia. was like an island that we were not affected well. We weren't affected because we weren't testing. Nobody knew anything. Exactly so that when the President says just quit testing, you number so good now. Hospitals won't be emptied, but the numbers will go down, so doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but right now. We're being very trying to be conscious possible We have a good group from Wvu medicine. WHO's been speaking up and basically advising such as CDC, does and Dr Charleston all them. We have audit. People aren't paying attention to take on different parts of my state seemingly more more alert to what. A safety should be we have we been identified as a state with the most vulnerable population? Because of our age major and Inter conditions that they have health conditions hard workers, respiratory problems major community so I've been pleading with them. Please don't go out. If you don't have family member that can shop for you. We'll send someone. We have a two one one call it a calls into the Red Cross and all the different support agencies we have. We'll have someone to your shopping for you. We're doing everything we can't support them. And those who should be staying in, so you've got to get that element of support and we have a very rural area, my state of Western. We don't have one city over fifty thousand population I want. We're a basically a wonderful state of made up of all the towns and a lot of rural areas and people do look after each other, so we're hoping adhere to that, but they don't wear the mask as much as they should. They're having the very cautious about we'll see. When you were governor, you had a reputation for speaking compassionately in times of distress for your state, but also speaking bluntly in ways that your constituents could understand and. You'd sort of. Not Be shy about peeling the bark off if you need a to. Saying back home, you can't show. So I. Wonder Tooth questions in your state. Has There been this quote? Unquote backlash against facial coverings mask like you're. Suppressing my rights to my own liberty, have you had that sort of debate? And when you talk in that blunt way about the importance of all these mechanisms social distancing mask-wearing into like? How do you phrase it back home? Well! I tell people absolutely adhere to it I tried to. Use the best. I possibly can to make sure I go out. I have a mask on sometimes I have forgotten. Run back to the car and get it. Things of that sort because you're just not used to everyday life of that, but it is important for us. It's important for all of our employees were asking to go back to work. See I think every employ. If you're asking a person to open back up, go back to work. You should be able to test. You shouldn't expect a worker to go back into work environment to where they might be someone fact, or had been infected, or maybe still is. We don't know they should be. They should have all PP's. We asked people to open up. There's there's there parlors and salons and. And a haircare and all this yet. We have as dentists dentist, ask an open up and they couldn't even protect them out their selves with the mask, and all that gowns and things they needed, so we're not prepared to do that and don't be prepared to open up as if nothing happened and if you're going to do it, then make sure if every every every business ought to have the right. To say if you'RE GONNA shop in my store. You have to have a mascow. If you don't WanNa. Make it mandatory. Then let the stores decide. Let the people shop to where they think there are protected. Making, sure that I think that the market will drive that politicians are afraid to stand up and say I'm taking your rights, but that masks on. Well I want to Save Your Life I'm recommend you put the mask on. My Mask on and I'm going to a store that I think is protected as as they are. Want me to be protected so that basically the market forces. Understood, I wanNA play a sound bite from the president also from his speech in Phoenix on this topic, what is or is not happening with Kobe one, thousand, nine hundred and play that place, and it's one of the reasons. We did so well. Before the plague and we're doing so well after the plague going away. It's gone away. Is that right. Well! Not In West Virginia. Not In Florida not in Texas, not in Califor- not anywhere. I. I don't know I can't. Even I don't have an answer for that Major. But does it complicate things for some constituents in West Virginia like the present Joe. What are you talking about? What is in me about the mass? The president said it's gone away. Snow has one of the highest popularity's of any public official in my state, right. They like they like that kind of rogue. Type thing but I'm gonNA. Tell you now that the economy's not what we thought it was. It was not as resilient as we thought, and it hasn't come back the way we think it should, and with that it's not going to come back and tear. We have a vaccine or an or an antibody that works. You can't and if you're not willing to give me the protection and test me. As much as I need to be protected and tested. If you want me to open up, do back into the workforce. then. Don't tell me just gone away on. Okay. Everything's Hunky Dory because the the rates of infection going up. The people are contracting this up in the summer. Heat has not taken it away and I'll tell you it's been hot and some places of West Virginia and they're still hasn't gone away. That's the voice of Joe Manchin. Democrat West Virginia, our special guest. Stay tuned rather for segment for the takeout in just a second. From CBS News! This is the takeout with Major Garrett. Welcome back work from home as you can see. The dining room studio. My apartment here in Washington DC Senator Joe Manchin Democrat West Virginia's special guest senator. Continuing the Kobe Nineteen, conversation. West Virginia is landmark university. It surprised of West, Virginia Your State. There are many other colleges and universities. What are your ideas and attitudes about? What's going to happen in the fall, kids going to? College is going to be able to function in a recognizable way. I think well, I think they're going to everything. They possibly can just from the standpoint of survival unless we're willing to put more money into education. To help them to a most difficult times. You're going to have to do everything they. Can I understand WBZ's planning on coming back. The football program is basically practicing. They had one. Thing there was one reported a. Player. That was positive. They shut things down. Don't tracing going everything because they're testing. They're doing everything they can to be safe. putting sixty and seventy thousand screaming fans. In a stadium could be a could be a stretch. Will the. Television. Revenues carry the financial end of it. Or they'll have to all make some adjustments but I. Don't think a lot of the schools. Especially, some of the smaller schools in all of our states will be able to survive if they don't get people back on campus or some form of a sports program, not able to be observed, watched participated the other variable there. You just mentioned it could be extra support from the federal government of there are those senator who are writing articles right now I read last night and the Atlantic saying the coming great. Great Depression meaning that the initial assistance the cares act and other things bipartisan, rapidly done kind of I think history will look back on that period of time is remarkable legislative functioning, but that's expiring sometime in the near future will there be another trench should there be another trench? Does there need to be another lifeline to get to keep this economy afloat for another six to twelve months? I believe that will be, but it won't be what you saw the first trunch. The first cares act we had. I think the cares act. They were trying to get money out two dollars out the door YEP. Difficult very difficult to be done in an orderly, passionate people don't take advantage of we had people return and billions of dollars in should have never gotten right with other people that took it unconscious. Way and Kevin could care less didn't and some who never got it? Exactly. Can we do a better job? Absolutely? Should we be able to target? Urgency around that right now. Senator on. Urgency from stamp. Let me tell you why you would have thought. We came back in the United States Senate two weeks early. The last time we came back two weeks early house was even in Thought coming back two weeks early that we would at least put commute together to start evaluating what's working? What's not worry? Different people from government in tell us what's working unemployment. Okay, VP, all the different things we try to help. We have over four hundred billion dollars that no one's barred from the large corporations. You know what they didn't want to be held accountable. They didn't want to be able to not to have stock buybacks or give big bonuses to their corporate leaders, so they wouldn't take it. They went. They went to conventional way. So rather than putting more can't redirect that. It's just sitting there exactly so we need to look at that and be smart, but there's no one serious. We don't have a committee doing it. That's what's awful, so we're going to try to get some senators and do it on our own without any formal committee. We have to WHO's to blame for that. Part, who's to blame for the lack of committee of lack of urgency right now. Is that other McConnell thing? Down the leadership it really is, McConnell has, it's a shame I. Don't know how the power all ascended. In the Senate or Congress. To the top two three four five feet while you know the answer to that part of that is committees. Don't function the way they used to committee chairman. Don't raise hell like they used to a shame. It really is you know what right about that? Absolutely, you're right you, you understand the process work was here when the process used to work in good work and it could go back to that again. But also when you look at what the congressman, but committee chairman have to be able to tell their leader to step off. As exactly, right? You have to be able to speak up. And sometimes stick. Pay The price. Often basically voted DACAS and say listen. I was thrown out because spoke up. Is that right I, don't know I. You know I have a good relationship with chuck. I get along with Chuck Schumer we have. We have our agreements, and we have our disagreements and were able to do it. In a civil manner, we can raise our voices everything. Walk out and we. We move on, and he knows I'm going to be very independent I. Come from State Montana Summer. Liberal. I'm out and there's always free. And I exercise it day The president tweeted this week. something to the effect of millions of mail in ballots will be printed by foreign countries and the election is rigged. Another crazy statement why? Come on we've been doing. Most of the country's been going Mellon. We just started in West. Virginia and we and we have a Republican secretary. State is embraced it many Republican. States secretaries of state have actually. But I'm saying we never had him before absentees. We did some of that okay with people very sick. But other now it's basically common. And it's going to be common. I don't think we're low back the other way I am I am not an not basically concern that it's going to be a rigged election. I've seen and heard of rigged elections when aged to have to come and vote. Right, are you concerned about the president's rhetoric, though in what it may mean to those who support him. What does it sets it up for term all? If a November, he's defeated. And transfer orderly transfer of power. This country is always I. would like to think that his true patriotism will come true come through that he understands the orderly transition of power. The people have spoken as democracy. We live in the Constitution the way it was written. We abide by what I'm hoping. I hope is people. Don't get in a fever pitch and he throws gasoline on. You! Think that's a fifty fifty proposition or worse. I don't know major on that I like to think that you know deep inside I understand and I would like to think understands. The president understands that. That the country. And who are is bigger than him even though he hasn't shown that. And I know the people I mean I'm concerned. I'm more worried about our democracy that I've ever been in my country because he spouses division, but all he knows. Reality TV. He's done well as ways he's never had. A public company has always been privately owned. He's able to call all the shots in answer to nobody says a big transition but that's congress comes in. That's where the three branches of government to stand stand tall and I'm thinking when people think down and out. Don't count out. Americans will combatant. have has your relationship become estranged with the president? It has. It must have because I. Haven't heard from him. Sensei voted for the impeachment, but I voted based on the fact. Facts didn't want that to happen and I was waiting for vigorous. Vigorous defence. And Defence I heard was for more switches said. Of course, which said the basically he's the president can do what he wants. And we're. I come from the West Virginian. No one's about the law. No one's better than me and I'm sure not better than anybody else. And it just went through me and I never heard anything that basically would disperse that from not being where. They really truly south. Their defense and I thought it was wrong and I thought was overwhelming. What had happened and it was insurance and you can't tell me that a brand new president of Ukraine. And he's trying to please because he's trying to protect himself and he's a weapons that would given him, but. Also, the president has given him a lethal weapons. Defend themselves. which had been reluctant before, and there's nothing seems to make a lot of sense from time to time, except when it comes time to the politics, which him never being a politician before the president. Ninety thing he knows, is the play the game the way he's always played it do whatever it takes to win. That's the voice of Joe Manchin are very special guests. Democrat senator from West Virginia Radio Audience Sadly. We have to say farewell, but for those on CBS on the podcast platform stay tuned for the takeout. Take a special back in a second. From CBS News, this is the takeout with major. Garrett welcome to your take out. Take a special. The Funding Games portion of our conversation and senator. Joe Manchin, Democrat West Virginia is with us. We have three questions. We ask everyone who is kind enough to join us on this audio Odyssey of ours. So. And our audience loves the answer because it's. Kind of insight into who we're talking to so in no particular order most influential book in Your Life. All Time, favorite movie or one of your favorite movies, and if you're going to indulge yourself musically, what artist or genre are you? GonNa Listen To. Well where you can start. Wherever you want to senator your choice first of all movies animal house. We've gotten that we got that. Frequent frequently frequently and I. Just read a book about the making of animal. House very revealing I mean that's was i. went to college. Nineteen, sixty five started freshman W. Right I can relate to all everything. You saw an animal house. I have observed. In the Senate cloakroom, right? Now, one brings the most joy to these. the original with Peter Sellers Sell Panton. I just I just love that slapstick humor, okay, and as far as just. Pearl Harbor Midway to I. Love I. Love Love. Those those movies have been wonderful to see who we are, and how we, how we sustained and been able to come through something like that. Books there's so many moving books in so many historical books. I want to speak about stuff about Chuck yeager because I never hager very well. brilliant book Tom Wolfe, your friend of mine and we talked about in detail an all the things, and how he went through and everything Sean. That movie was very accurate because he was there. Just put the accuracy to. He's a West Virginian. Correct Hamlin West Virginia. Biggest thing how he got picked. Why things? He wanted extra twenty five dollar pay. Incentives matter. Back then they got rid of the high price. They had before from the from the Boeing Company. No one you know and put chuck in there and he knew that if he didn't break amber that day, he lose that check. To got kicked off four rockets one time until Babur. Start taking pictures because I'm coming back. I heard all the. Other one is homer Hicken. And I'm speaking about my state of West Virginia Homer Hickam Rock. Okay okay, if you October skies of movie rotten right, yes, know the area well, and if you saw the area today, you would never think that that type of intellectual could could come from an area that so poverty ridden today. And, they're just wonderful. People and I mean it's just unbelievable how? Coq Au community around a coal mine and his father, but have the teachers that push them to drain that they could do something and that was just something. Spoke about the quality of of the people that we have in our state of West Virginia. So, who's your favorite ones? Have you ever seen the movie? Mate One all make one I've been to Maitland I've seen the bullet holes. May One phenomenal movie if you haven't seen it? Folks I highly highly recommended beautiful, intense deeply movie movie the movie, but as far as a music. All types of music. From Frank Mike, would they? You name I like it. My favorite artists Jackie Wilson. Right. House. That's excellent. Music my wife and I like to dance. One last thing before I let you go does Joe Biden have any chance of carrying West Virginia Rail I would like to think so, but they say the odds are long and hard. He'll fight better chance than Hillary. Clinton the right. have to have to prove a whole lot there. That's not high bar. No, it's not no, it's not Do you consider him? The odds on favourite in the twenty twenty election do? But here's here's my advice. Now anything I've said this I think if Joe Biden when he picks his VP candidate. Could also pick his basically advising team his advisors, his kitchen table the people. It's going to be with him. Not Be I WANNA. Tell you he's been to the power. Not One person can do it. They have to have good people around him I believe that. Joe Biden will put good solid citizens. Democrats Republicans, forget about the politics put most articulate person, the most knowledgeable person and he'll listen to, and if he can put that team. Team and show the American people. This is how we're going to govern. This is how my administration and these are. Some of the people that I'm going to be counting on to give me good sound judgment from experience and knowledge and Vision Donald Do senator, Mansion always a pleasure to talk to you I appreciate your time. You've been quite generous. Thanks so much. We'll see you around the capital. Thanks Major. Look forward to seeing you thanks. The takeout is produced by Arden Foreigner Jamie Benson Sarah. Watson, Zoe poindexter and Jake Rosen CBS and production by Eric Soussan, grace, seekers and Daniel People's follow us on facebook twitter instagram at takeout podcast that's at takeout podcast, and for more go to take out PODCAST DOT com. The takeout is a production of CVs audio.

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Meet the drag queens using glitter and kindness to positively change lives

No Really, I’m Fine

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Meet the drag queens using glitter and kindness to positively change lives

"So stop by telling me are you ready hi hello i welcome to you know really i'm fine i'm michael pearson and this episode is all about dry coach a on mental health you may have noticed a new program on channel four cold dry as a west it's about five drag queens he told the nation to find unsuspecting by members of the public to unlock that long lost confidence and become bold brave positions of themselves so i decided to head of my microphone to manchester to speak to chat a gorgeous the mother of how scorgeous and one of the stars of the show show but before we hear from chedda here's a little clip from drug that's the west is kind of mission of channel for trump got potential named purina dry i'm a grand that must grandsons five years old he always cosby poppy relevant that hand he's autistic and they're talking about giving mcaddo succumb to some puppy love a little extra that might be a good night playing style of what would i think if anything so you're not on his law festival and then it's like i think he'd be quiet proud i'm standing in a drag lab they made up attract coenen fading all sorts of different images i'm feeling a lot of faith in half in was feeling when he was ten years old looking in the mirror gonna get more i mm and welcome to this week's episode of no really i'm fine i'm today i'm joined the peaceful cheddar gorgeous i like how you put that is joined into his like we've come together in a special moment for joined ways we have a history of folks coming together just because if anyone doesn't know you're part of a new show which is cold dry castaway on permanent on channel four nicely i didn't see the the program being advertised around 'cause i'm in the department and the fbi did see it came into my facebook feed the the video on channel four and it was this lovely moment with be the father listen man which is gone viral and things like that survive looking around and it's still you from manchester so just for up to but free mutual connection i have to get you on the show to welcome but what we always do and we said stop the punt cast is the best question okay is all you redefined today i'm fine actually know ryan literally plans have been doing a lot of stuff so it means going around in a traveling the law and eight so i'm i'm a little bit like well worn a little bit tired yes but quite good trailing oftentimes they cannot just go on about all my problems it is what it is they like it's it's like unknown therapy therapy loved i loved style of 'cause we gonna be a very interesting podcast listeners shave and why but we we we we stop by and finding out about people's stories and i i think the people that don't know let's talk about your story about you know how you say i mean what what's interesting pick me up in the car i mean is is that you i'm trying to you in the car on the way over you saying oh you know as as social worker and you know and how do you go five we've never never lost rabia so short trained as a social worker i was too young chimes is how short so i start i started my long if we'd be idea that's what i was gonna day from a very attached match like fifteen i sold down so it's gonna be all my mom and my sister they buy fucking nhs my dad networks in such as a news also this idea of lot but obviously the team's gonna be a special aka sidelined by melissa ness my sisters a paramedic 'em odd is gonna be a social but also how in my head on them so trying very very as lying trained at least trying when i was qualified one twentyone through 'em and eight just i just don't i don't think i have the right to life experience without and so i worked for a little while 'em but then a stall teach a by fifty working fulltime running restaurants so if i had a lot of really disjointed all of that journey to get hate today opt in so many different things so i i trained is a shortcut in iran restaurants and 'em in in whole but she's a lovely town although it's very lovely now maybe you staged a reputation of being very lovely i always love the analogy capital again after the culture which is really amazing lovely thing to say because i always had a great love for the city was fabulous and from then on china's hasn't apologized alone lots of people always go awash and i'm like yes i know i feel exactly the wind after studying if it's a long i'm still don't quite show and bound apologists on study a papal essentially inside they left against spend a long time we've painful and then they write about experience of getting to notice paper and understanding nicole chess i 'em through ethnography captain called i say politician observation if no graffiti so i would just nonstop polo chased it up is not politics i feel like you're all in education system you're always kind of been training on 'em so i take my phd in apology which he's not too dissimilar from journalism supposedly probably too dissimilar from your wild with others and realize armed police had that going well actually no it's very different than any is discovery to from a crime in some respects but yeah i saw i and then i ended up being a dry cleaning that happen and it's and it's interesting because you're see either among just analogy richard from having us here i am who was you know like monsters of seen known is being this great of the divested e in lgbt life and things like that so did mount shasta have a play a lot to play in la icon signed by men to start to get something very much about may in you you're yeah and i think that's the thing about drug it's very much about lifting something i am giving yourself a mission to let some things i m i think manchester suddenly help but munches drop wasn't baking chest when i go into drugs like it was something that not many people deed like we were talking eleven years ago ten eleven years ago and they will but it was about ten eleven years ago start doing drugs and people doing it in the same way back then now you go down canal street and every single by has a has a drunk quaint old it's like a dying off ten years ago i think launches things like ru paul's drag crises how they sort of research and 'em and i think the manchester history in truckee so very dug a so we have many different eras of drag of come and gone by the hacienda ear and then obviously there's been this kind of this this run of what people traditional push cabaret you knives cited the spin that all the time and always will be there and so it definitely gave me a crude grind in which to stop playing with drunk but it wasn't really a hugely popular or successful load of profitable thing to do a time with easy sort of thinking and now i'm going to get into dry unsourced something like deep to make to something like deed as a kind of released as a y of bringing fun back into my life and it's a way of finding confidence i'd lost team failed to us so my failed to this radio ready challenge and so in us policy and you do a period of time way you you do research you failed weaponized should work around public sex and sex work which is quite stressful i spend a lot of time around a lot of very chaotic paypal poll and around some rain now he's painful 'em and as a result i lost a lot of confidence i lost a lot of white hot as a young adult 'em on drug raid became a wife me to reconnect weeds and it's not even the same thing might be to to reinvent nhl myself but without able to connect with the well and you and you said about losing energy you know how'd you always been offered release of comfort in paris oh god no telling i was in a white jinjing geek like when the teenager grabbing up i was in star trek ditches to addicted and then we start trying to what stuck truck of course there's still a straw all the naysayers and i think that's very nice tonic so star trek i problem folly i did all the nations like foss game but only once in a real problem for long gig and i will not name drove a drive school and then when i went to college when i started kind of a brunch i kind of want to express myself more but even that was quite struggle you know i only and when those between the ages of seventeen seventeen and nineteen i would not the best at eighteen i had i had and remain i still have a lot of issues around buddy these mafia around saying give a particular kind of person in the mirror that might not necessarily resemble full truth all fact there's a little people say 'em so i think my life has always been diamond we struggling with those kinds of issues and drunk israeli helped me be able to find i a white to feel good and he said that about when you when you expose that seems to be some times the common theme from from everyone we i mean i certainly when i went to union to expose things more and using that is you know because that when we're we don't wanna do you know we do because parents situations in life well i think being home didn't stop me to stand up show my mother will attest 'em didn't stop stop me from from being able to have a rebel towards the end the m but i think it's plus it gives me and people kids go to university the cultural universities very peculiar when you think about things suddenly my generation the dumb things everyone everyone went to university stay and in those times when you you leave heim and you a given a certain kind of freedom to spend your time you're lying way you will you make that expression where you lucky that when you were i hope you had a good relationship is only oh yeah i've been very very lucky and taking me wrongly wasn't perfect old times but suddenly they have i have worked to loving accept me you know what i mean and i'm short times i have been difficult to loving except in there is there is another i haven't talked to you know go licorice black licorice bligh my baby and she talks about in this episode but yeah it doesn't even when i said i wanna pattern shit by the time this growth will be too well yeah they and she talks in a quite openly enough that you could see the tea is down a face about she doesn't have it in in another tano i'm sorry i'm sorry sorry and all right guys like a guy that's on voter bray twice as well as some sort of and it just just kind of give you an introduction to the teams this me yet on the flack tank licorice block lil l t t buying an esteemed mandela 'em most suicide among chester buys but in that episode but we we just saw which will send you a on a guy seems quite a lot of detail about her relationship with a dad non you know why is it like a surprise to all of us on on i think was incredibly brave 'em on them so incredibly proud that she when a you know what i mean i'm actually felt a guy to open up and talk about the stuff because it's incredibly important the so i think we could save any parent child relationship and that was what was lovely about showing the story was i think any parent tight from now but it's important to learn and by any bryce children's life book particular thing for lgbt q young paypal where i live can be so radically different from my parents and then the issues of love and acceptance a us i think we crave hey if we we want the information because we're locking it from society will talk about drug prices a lot more in detail about 'cause i don't really wanna go away from me drunk driving in they lie about it monitor it and what's interesting is while you talked about star trek as well because it would you say there's a relationship between costs play on dry 'cause i know they're completely different i think the relationship between mind try and science fiction like icon i think the costs place is interesting because costs plays about emulating of the courage to whereas dry isn't by creating a character from yourself right so i think there were there is a difference that i don't feel like dry he's playing dressed up and that's not devalue dress up because i think calls planes amazing it's wouldn't have fun i think it's a really fun way to keep yourself the freedom from yourself dragons about going into your self it's about becoming becoming so comfortable with southie you no longer have to free yourself from not pass and it's about becoming that pass and you want to be even if it's just that little moment and by allowing yourself to his moments where you get in touch with the most confident version of yourself over what you perceive to be is the most beautiful person this off or what you perceive to be the passengers in cash high beautiful how old the most sassy version of himself having those moments where you can connect with top passing can be really really good for allowing you to leave your life in idaho highway everyday mono 'em say me science fiction played a huge role in wall molly drunk became because when i always when obviously incredibly older commentators on and i think some some drag queens they look at the kind of movie style that sold the pine cones and they look at those generally women because i ten top annoys the softer energy that we can connect it became an m but they look at those kind of extravagant comes in they see the the kind of pets and they want to actualize to me the pass and all going to watch the tape you eyesores powerful and it's having the ability to affect change in the world they we learned that with the monsters with the colts have the guardian sees that would these characters throwing science fiction and said that any jeannine comes through my drunk drivers launched late at trump's human almost just writers i mean some of the some of the make you have on your instagram i said i'd make a bet i can't tolerate these i'm it's wrong man wearing makeup stuff but certainly the pains but you have been in dogs on germany it off because he's when he when he sees the details when you go like oh i don't know the proper was shocked when i when i had ongoing look at your instagram from because you steve futterman the school gorgeous makeup of the knights play with the online you could just see these incredible photograph of you in lots of these different phones and now you talk about the science fiction you concede us so played in that's so interesting from your perspective see that the connections superheroes amongst is in dragons and the things they actually just have the power to do whatever the hell they won't allow the time on change the world be heroes and save paypal and 'em you connect teach people in my sometimes literally be connected people in ways that we calm in our world and not always the kind of thing or using trusted the stuff that i couldn't do the people i couldn't be stopped trying allows you to do it allows you even if just for a moment to be those things to win a line to be the rest of the time offense it's a it's it's a huge form of expression that you couldn't yeah south maybe yeah i think there's a lot of dubai around highway to find dry just so much people think is gender as agenda trans gender transformation as men dressing up as women 'em and i think we need to sting less about wasn't drunk has pain and more about what dry can be and so for me i'm much more interested in in dry cause of why off a through makeup of course shame performance through all those different things oh why is creating a spectacle of ourselves for looking into us arms and thinking what's the one thing i think the people see it by main hama gonna make that the only thing that i see see how am i gonna make a larger than life bigger than anything if you think the dry helps those at mental wellbeing get an in mental health times the idea of being able to look inside yourself and maybe shows ask yourself the people i don't see normally that could be huge volume mental health wise because you have a says typing up a one of my direct auto is watching i think he's taking you just explained dropped down to a science or a of a in a lot of drunk communities you have a ton of knowledge you used like track mullet most attractive to attract sista on a spicy it's a way of making the relationships we have as performers and friends and off tastes small white t so we kind of meat very much you know almost like a serious plot so day all people who have time for years who i'm friends with a who i was quiz cetera professional twice therapists ties in north ties of mentor ship is well so i have on the flight is metric system louis metro existed tt's my sister and then i have the younger generation if you like licorice block is a direct oltra mining on us because we were rhyme when she started doing drugs so she she looked up to offices prime example of how not to do things 'em so you have that kind of terminology that's used among among drug community sorry i interrupt tom so riling a story about a common remember wants to know i am so i think one of my daughters who is kind of taking a bit of a high isis from dracula by mitch school violet and when she did to track but she's not only using that night minimal 'em she used tracked connect with traumatic experience so she would become a drunk monster and so she would become this kind of humorous creech she would choose life tax and stick things right about why expressing pine and the pine that she felt the rest of the world didn't say so i think he can be incredibly powerful and allowing us to express to the papal intensity of our emotions but i think there's another aspect that which is you tank drank off and it's something that you have control lights up and i think particularly around bc and beauty me this this real and i think sometimes we can misinterpret drag as being by creating an unrealistic to stop did and i think the real the right think about track is that everybody knows it comes off everybody knows it's off the face the fact that it's fight 'cause you know it's fake could strike right it's the most releasing and yet at the same time we all know it's fake and not revealed to us how all these beauty son does this all these days is perfection soul site gray on the me deliberation i mean you could you could see me in front of you right now the painful hyman con at michael all that fat my dad's day life i mean a local raleigh attend look the chef old well not most of the time but i don't make a huge amount of it when it comes to my parents and that's because i've been able to put that into drawn i need that to me that's the way we should be looking at daytime you should be able to relax and do whatever the hell you want a no worry about what people think about you know even if that's because you wanna look extravagant and you died life fabulous great for you to me i don't make any effort and that's the fun but we we know the drug if something comes off dispels the idea that we have to be passed victim flowing us all the time because it's unrealistic and it's just it's hard work and it's just not true and do you think that says a wide paycheck in this this is a this is loaded question do you think this does a wider pitcher of i'll be down to the women and men in mostly for women let's be honest which is why why i think the drug is something they have powerful women in certainly something that we saw in the shot was on and you'll see much more on the show you can be incredibly liberating for women to take ownership of feminine beauty and learned something that doesn't necessarily have to be about them being attractive for about why anybody else thinks about it could be about them having fun and then by taking off and i think it's the most peculiar thing the that's also the human rice harvest have expectations to drag every single diet the lawyers say usual from the they drag queens lemay who were doing it so yeah i think kit reveals and if you look at how people concussion using dry techniques they become the new standard of beauty i'm i mean i'm all for it i'm all for people expressing themselves in any way they want but it's when it goes from the thing about drug issue own drivers something but you doing intentioned bay folio south as a as a some fun as a laugh as a way of expressing yourself sometimes it's profound sometimes it's frivolous but you're owning it as dopamine and i think the moment the shifts from being a point of view being out celebrate you south street being something that you feel you have to do in order to be accepted dot swim we can't really horrible area i'm nuts when a the the the came crashing michael techniques become a real strange and difficult thing from h price says using you have a lot of young women sometimes young men but mostly young women i do feel they have to do that you know just be pretty and that's my problem what we were like the joy of drag guys he's you get to take off and maybe you don't have to do it every single day be alive mm mm so no one who took a little bit about i'm dragway show after that the next recession that sean adams whatever you idiots radios tracks tells dragging them like tell us how the rhine do nothing at all say we were like dry saws so thoughts away that so ast railing and basically it just those you haven't watched it give me like your five five second run dum dum dum dum dum as as of this show is about well we've been traveling around the uk helping people in small towns discuss sudden death fabulous through the power of drug that sounds like he does things like the intro to the show douglas douglas living off of one of the many and they episodes and we see it as you mentioned before with in dover and we need three people to to women and one non on you see them go on this journey and they will upset but when he is heart wrenching in an inspiring stories when it gets to the end is a lovely showing it and that in and i hate to say this but if someone said can you just tell me what it is and it's like well it's a bit like ru paul's drag race which i know it's not at all but it's a bit like repulsed drag race meets queer eye and i feel like you a lot of people have said that probably to you already yeah so i think i mean i i love ripples drunk rice yeah i'm really excited it's coming to the uk yes i think one of the things i enjoy it by our show in how do this ripple strike rice is the at the center of our show to track the thing the phones community which you speech happens in repulsed drag race and you see that in repulsed drag race you see how they become distilling throughout the thing but the center in competition though like the center the center repulsed drag race remains competition which is really it's really important in american drug culture but a dying at the cause of the history of how to trade the highest in american drug culture but we how's the same history of patrick yeah you know our our trucks scenes were built up in small pubs and clubs to the drag queens really play polytechnic museum this time in the states but we don't have saturday's competition culture here so i love the the out of the center of the show he's he's the idea the drug is something that brings people together and something that's open to all this while i think like you said the two women one man on the first episode and not batteries the serious guys on but i think we always have a female on tests and who who is on the show a drag on the one a one of my team members tape on gays assigned female at the top of the new expression poisoning i up is living in fema which he found those great life is good in it which is interesting because when we were saying about gender you know absolutely well i mean don't get me wrong it usually involves some kind of ply of gender or way of connecting with gender understanding your gender in a different way but i truly believe the drug is something that can be embraced by men by women by non binary people by transgender people i mean the only thing why should anybody get high level of discomfort in suffering the people have took a turn truck it's something we can enjoy altogether and in the show you this woman's story and i don't wear with with the story we see now is the oil a yeah they they between the offering the in sean and stop you know fast she becomes at it in his speech or it's a lovely story so 'em oh we have been nominated to start showing the weekend me sean and obviously even though he's nominated him showing us agreed to do this a you we couldn't pull him you know wouldn't that be wonderful to pick out a paper in society we want to force instruct but that's just not how it works out shouldn't wow close but choon really committed to the project because he he felt that he had not connected with his son enough as he's so much growing up his son when it came out as guy and he finds out very difficult showing hunt while he describes is quite caveman attitudes towards his son coming and i'm like what you meet him in the book page yeah absolutely bit of a bit of a surge of but he's he he he's a wonderful man and obviously is tyke he's turned a corner and he's alive when it comes to the acceptance of his son and his sons 'em sexuality but not only has he turned the corner he's acknowledged said this some think he fails he has to make a particular some that on the why he decided to do that was to try and connect to ways em drive so i just drag on on on showing just believed would be a really a great way to understand why he's so much came through growing up now i won't you seen a he's a we we presented this idea is lying thinking would not rating nine whether we would walk so we kind of put into this idea to the channel i mean why would he has one track maybe can help people connect with each other and their emotions and it's a really wonderful thing not really knowing whether it's gonna pay off and then through the through the stories like showings we saw michael shirley eight eight withdrawing its profound why of exploring yourself but also 'em allowing you to connect ways your family family and friends and whether it be that through a moment of celebration old tourists we've seen showing in this situation a chance to actually articulate something to one another they haven't done yet there is a lovely moment wet showing a number this is the court may when he put on the week the space time and then the department of addressed a combat well if it's a silly thing on any look in the mirror and he just start crying and he said i convert exact words he said something like i just mentioned now just imagine having doing they should have been by his side got a girl maybe you wanna i mean 'cause he wants he you know he at the image of like playing football with his son the he he up in the past it approached his relationship with his son we will he expected the relationship to be robbed the relationship with growing say and he felt like he may style on a chance to be that with his son and if you do you do you describe the situation and it sounds sounds silly any is we can drag is profoundly cillian profoundly from funding as a real it's a great opportunity to have a laugh and you know you have these guys avenue in a way a guinea just having a good time 'em but then they can have this be perfect you're not any any pg it might think of amendment the heat mixed on this and it's and it's such a relationship little thing yeah i found myself like i remember i'm not saying that when i looked at myself in the mirror and younger i thought about that but like i i know that a connection of non bolan 'cause it's so rooted in all lies now and i i hate but point is you and i felt like i lost the connection with my my dog great and like i'm really sick and other pieces i i don't think i ever tell him so high but at least they is that i never had that moment my doubt and it's really interesting 'cause my life changed a little bit in the i know they work in the football world with journalism and i ended up being in the madrid finals final liverpool in the champions league final and then it was just like i felt like i dunno like good on you so i felt like i'd like we thought he was an end do you find that without throughout the series there's always this this this this those were labeled moments there's always there's always something that takes us by surprise and by the time these guys out you'll if you will experienced in the very very powerful and wonderful story and i the sign three separate every single episode we met such a nominal people who are willing to share that lawyers on this thing silliness of drag on on the kind of i the nsf drunk on oddly gives people permission to go into rainy day fund serious places because you're making yourself honorable this idea that when you came to try and keep putting on a mosque and somehow you end up being vulnerable not just no what's happening when you do drag you you are connecting with something deep inside yourself and you're encouraging people to look at you dust at the core of drag you saying me and when you look at buying courage you to realize a whole stuff about yourself and it was interesting in the cali which eyeing about last week's episode which and we had a reality star mcabe allen from the violent on the puck and we were talking about on the puck us so we were talking about you know reality television and how toxic kicking being this is this is not reality is it's used as a restriction document hosted event so as documentary in any industry for talks on the people we met were real people there there's a false sense of the situation there in in in the sense that they're doing drugs so we're making making the underdog but we are putting them in dry for the first time 'em without shopping that wouldn't be happening but just know kind of a this nice this this set tasks folding in the form of learning a routine but the life you seize real life their reactions to a real reactions on that they were much more interested in their real stories not the story of what's happening necessarily between us and the dramas the happening between us 'em was filming it is interesting because these you know these sort of talk when she thought we have on the television i know i'd much rather watch something like this then i'd watch a reality tv show but we had a really interesting discussion before in the cop out reno reality tv in that sort of spearing about you know do you think they were programs create something that we would maybe not too spicy but why we yeah yeah yeah and i think dragging the show is the way that people are alive to tell the story i think a lot of reality tv 'em is about creating a story that people aspire to and creating a particular kind of story that's bind with sun so super drama and kind of be team kind of allama darren rarely stink so i think if you think about where we get our aspirations and what we see is a successful life what we see is a funny and interesting lie 'em we look to things like love island we looked at this types in dramas in hollywood folks on we tight those i think even subconsciously and the very base level this kind of a multiple highway supposed to be living in that's what i live should look like i'm not stuff really screws up so even if i was just saying going well i just watch i watch these programs and i don't take any thinking you're used to come yeah i absolutely think the the oldest those the stories that we watch have 'em have a way of affecting the way that we spoke to some things you not allow leaves a even if it's just having a certain kind of job or looking sang kind of why am i think over time these things con help influence game i could i could do a whole lot about his apology starting you know if you think about the power of soap operas on windows windows a what you see is a perfect relationship come from way way where we getting these ideals of a the we should be in a monogamous relationships where we get this gang it'd be preventative away we get any of this idea of what what we should be doing on the weekend how what kind of things you should do when we go i yeah you know drinking having fun going to the movies then they old stories that have been told to us and then multiple presented to us of how we should live outlines and nothing what reality tv does it gives us this acutely toxic toxic mix which incredibly attractive painful light trying to pull late shut the whole a going in and being protein unrealistic situations but we'll never be able to achieve on the side we will never be able to achieve all those beauty standards because let's face it allows the app rushton construct tate and you know that spending the time beautifying themselves defined the and then the situations that they've been put in a decree i entertainment defined we will never be able to achieve by situations fucking make us feel crap on at the same time wearing courage by them but we should have certain kinds of drama which raunchy rini unpleasant for us to experience some jealousy you know a guy in the the full lines you see on shows like if they not pleasant things to go through yeah we look at it and go nuts life we should be living because then the models of success that we have in this interesting about dr as well pick is in in track coach of in repulsed drag race i specifically in programs like that you know it's it has created these sort of beauty stunted of of drag and things like that the ashley we we don't relate with in the uk 'cause we've we've been exposed you and i are battles have been exposed to pray struck coach but but if you wanna know from the uk a cast of diamond he creates a sudden there's a certain kind of dry as well and jack rice and but you know while they always tank the drunk off you know i mean repulsed drag race you don't just see the drive on stage you see them massively tightening of improving on on all said the show has created spice memorial ton too drunk to 'em if you look at these fees win a tv outlay she's not kind of messy hong she's fabulous messy kind of punk energy of drag race showing that it's not all about having the cuts your guy and it's all about having the most polished skin and all of that sort of stuff it she she's been allowed to exist and be celebrated full v automats she is you know with the with the previous year maybe the year before that was it says he was nine visit sos shovel he's it's the law i lay icon yeah and she and she when she just had dry she does it without a week would likely the time yeah most of the time i started drawing yet an odd she she has these real emphasis of online doesn't change the idea that she is performance artist and if you look at the weather she's done since finishing track rice to producer i'm shy and to do nine guns which is a shoving new york which israeli placing this emphasis on on drive the has a high a concept or attracted he's able to shows and reflect and think back about society it's incredibly powerful amazing stuff and ripple strike rice has created a spice with that i think he probably could do more in creating a space for people who own men as they have their show the show that the show has come under criticism sometimes i'm yeah you know you go into that by saying well what is important best says be south is that you've been able to because they they dry will be seeing huge resurgence now solutely in my in my generation we are about to report strike rice and you know and i think we we wouldn't while we don't know dewey but i'm saying and we dived remember they they what many is non a non of a problem at work you know they worked hard to create show the voice that has become emmy award winning 'em and the people involved without from the all they did that for the love of eight they did it when the walls in a massive huge seen why seem to celebrate them on a i think that has to be commended because we'd i thought i wouldn't be doing the work i don't think that i do not i i think i think i'd be publishing drunk on a very small scale part time all star team university somewhere before you were talking about a drag you created something at the with something so special that was inside you to bring out you know would you go back and go what might change we just think how brave a i think i think i'd give up my job seeing a you know and if you do not know what you're still i'm coming to the end of it i'm very very very supportive policies lovely who's being very flexible but we may be able to come into thing on the work of been able to 'em but a yeah i think i would probably have taken the late singer now but that any attempt at any point in thinking about what you would have done differently 'cause you hey and i and i'm very lucky should be wearing out in the sun is almost like you'd be like well actually my journey with brock hasn't even started you know it's definitely stone and it's probably coming to an end charles clay showed off and i think you you cannot any bryce life on whether that's about joining drag or johnny in general you can any and bryce life is something that is ongoing until it's no longer ongoing right yeah and i think that's how i try to see life in general you don't really know what's around the corner you don't know what you're gonna feel okay tomorrow and you started this podcast by asking me how do i feel and do i feel fine on identity eugene whether you're gonna fail find tomorrow with something that's by physical your mental health or something that's happening in your sexual well divine gene but you couldn't just keep on keep on keeping on and keep it on spreading good energy positive positive messaging because we react to one another and why 'em and one of the things who took their by the commerce department the way a i think we are women take way make one of the things that's how we learn anytime we grab a is how empathy works and that could be something that looks rainy rainy policy to fly on stuffed election every negative way so i like to just kinda keep on go in and try and surround myself with positive things should everybody's things i've just been looking we've been talking five forty five minute i can't believe i wish you go on it just feels like we've just been half the five seconds of a thank you so much for joining me on the puck slashing am and hopefully flight cbc weakening and get you involved more because you ask them what but rounding to the close of series want us to make auto jeans chiefs on i am but yeah i'm thank you so much i mean i'm the styling maybe just quick question what is the status quo questions the boys one of your favorite thing about drug that when you switch and rotten to the radio open question but that will say kay was one my favorite things about and drag 'em i think one of the things i love about trunk sees that way the pro folks celebration await the random using provides in a very low dude why would provoke celebration bryson or whether it provides conflict dr always and this reaction new by being died during a spectacular yukon help connect to add three single person in kansas you even they try to ignore you and i think the movement so always good so even conflict can be good if encourages us to opioids coming to a compromise 'cause you have to just on different before you can move forward with anything i say well thank you so much richer they've always been not so you go just heavy thank you my pleasure to be here in we all have mental health and it's just as important as physical health no really on time shares real stories and experiences but we all expect on this podcast is not smell planets have sick asking official medical advice if you'll mental or emotional state quickly day or you're worried about someone you know helping support is outlay sociology pay or call a smart decisions on eight hundred five eight five eight five eight fritz vice on how to help a friend or loved one

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Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

"I did it's time for fast-track. Mason ireland live from the beach. Get your body back on track fast. Were those unwanted inches visit freeze. The fat dot dot com. Dr grant stevens his whole team. We'll get you ready. Freeze the fat john ireland one side of the coin clayton kershaw starts game two in the playoff series on the other side of the coin walker bueller does call it in the air. I'd go with bueller going tails your tails bueller. It's tails jay gujrat. It's just a very good try jack there. You go all right mesa phillies. Yes are trying to make sure that the philly fanatic that green furry mascot. That's been with the team since one thousand nine hundred seventy eight doesn't go to another team in a federal lawsuit filed friday in new york a copy of which was obtained by the philadelphia inquirer. The phillies allege that the firm they hired to help create the fanatic. It's a firm called harrison. Erickson yup is trying to renegotiate agreement that the sides made more than thirty years ago and in so doing making making the fanatic a major league free agent. How here's my question would this even work. If the fanatic left for another team would he become become the mets fanatic or the nationals fanatic would another team even take the fanatic if he decided to leave. If i was another team in their division vision i think i would sign the fanatic as a free agent just to say scorer you philly if i'm the mets if i'm the nationals if i'm any team in the national national league east. I think i'd do it just spitefully. I remember when clipper darrell was having problems with the clippers. Your mark cuban was talking to him. He said we'll come. You know it come down here and you can be like you know. Maverick daryl and i always thought how's that gonna work like i. I just don't think it did work with the san diego chicken remember he just would go for minor league park to mind right park and he'd be great everywhere he used to come to the toledo mud hens and do to annihilate and it was a big deal san diego chicken night so maybe the fanatic could but i just associate the fanatic with the phillies fanatic did that just went for minor interleague park. The minor league practice seemed stick it would be it would be a deal. I bet you care now. You're a dodger fan. Yes it dodgers have never had a mascot the lakers have i have never had a mascot which you welcome. The fanatic do either a staple center laker game or a dodger baseball game. <hes> there is absolutely no way yeah. I wanna mascot either at the dodgers or at the lake. I've always thought that that every time i see chuck the condor yup. I said there's the different yeah lakers would never do that. Never do it yeah so it is. I think what the clippers always hide behind his. Oh it's for the kids. Well kids can have fun without without a giant nine yeah. They have all of them yeah. I'd rather see lebron yeah. I'm not so sure that that. I don't want the dodgers to sign the filial on either. I don't either jay a whistle blower at apple has come forth and revealed that subcontractors who worked for apple regularly alertly here things like users confidential medical information drug deals going down and even couples having sex on siri the employee <music> who asked to remain anonymous due to fearing for their job related to the guardian that sometimes siri gets accidentally activated without the user knowledge the whistle blower further further revealed. There's not much vetting who works there and the amount of data that we're free to look at seems quite broad. It wouldn't be difficult to identify the person that you're listening to especially ashley with accidental triggers addresses names and so on. How much does this concern you are. We all just resigned to the fact that companies aren't doing their jobs by making customers easterners vulnerable and do we need to go back to less smarter devices. Have we created a virtual monster right so this is interesting because on the t._v. Show the good wife in one of the final seasons remember they had that crazy lawyer that played by carrie preston called elspeth yeah all right so elspeth had a great by the way right she had an amazon echo in her office yup and she was in a court case up against matthew perry matthew perry's paying lawyer lawyer from the other side and matthew perry subpoenaed the echo thinking that every meeting she had in her office may have accorded yeah proprietary information and she tried plasma and she's like alexa race race every think and he knew they were running out. I think this is absolutely a real thing. I think that that we have gotten too far advanced and but but the question becomes the even tougher question is let's say someone commits a felony yeah okay and there's evidence on their phone of the felony they committed right should law enforcement began to use the phone against them in other words. Can your own phone incriminate you. What do you think well. Let's let's think about this. There are such things as wiretaps right but there's a generally speaking a judge that approves a wiretap before it goes on this would be after the fact for example. You and i come up with a plot to murder greg bergman okay and we talk about a relationship okay. We talk a batch out of the bag. Now we talk about it in your kitchen yes and somehow your amazon echo picks it up right okay and the police ace who have recent we've said for three years. I'm gonna kill bergman. Police have reason to believe that somewhere on that echo is probably with your eye plotting the murga. Should they be able to use the echo against well. We invented this thing years ago. Called the fourth amendment <hes> which is designed to prevent vent legal search and seizure is that illegal search and seizure. I think it is illegal search and seizure absolutely it is so what about greg's right to a fair trial or the in the same. I'm waiting in the same way. You need a search warrant to be able to go in somebody's house. You need some sort of court order to be able to listen into somebody's information so i think because of the fourth amendment i think it is private information. It's an interesting question. I'll give you that answer your regional. Yes i think we've become too technological for our own good and it's only gonna get wurley. Get more of it right yeah. I think it's gonna sneak up on us. Although there's nothing embarrassed i i take that back. Take that back jay. You're listening to caspian. Los angeles okay mace senator senator. Josh holly h. a. w. l. e. y. Who is from missouri is trying to pass a bill that would make technology less addictive. Okay holly social media addiction reduction technology act the smart act tap would ban these features that worked to keep user on user platforms longer cast says you would band auto play on youtube. You now goes from one gal there he wants to. I wants to ban scrolling on facebook or twitter that you scroll on your phone. He wants to limit those features two questions here what it work if appear in youtube and the auto feature is disabled. Would you watch less do too young to be honest with you. I don't like the auto feature on youth ended. Identically goes to actually find that to be really annoying but oh the other one. Scrolling is what facebook is four. That's all my mom does is scroll on facebook but big picture look at this overall. Would it be a good idea to limit technology. You know like there's some. There's some cars that when you plug your smartphone in it's not now i'm driving. I could automatically send a text of somebody right ex- you do you think limiting technology and attempt to make it less. Addictive is a good idea a bad idea. Yeah i think within reason it's a good idea like for example on instagram. <hes> they're testing in australia. The idea of making <hes> <hes> likes private so in other words. You can see your own likes but other people can't see how many likes you've got something right because i the number of people that put put something on instagram and then just see how many likes they get her see. How many likes somebody else gets is. Actually <hes> people waste a lot of time doing that so that's that's the sort of thing i would approve. Scrolling instrument. Mean facebook was invented for scrolling twitter. That is their business model. Yeah same a twitter so i do think got seven eight year old daughter where you went technology limited to make it less addictive tour. Yes some of that stuff. I don't think you can do the whole scrolling thing alan you you could add a feature and make it optional like are you as her father. You could say all right. Here's what i've done. I've taken and your phone and i've limited what you can do it and when you're older i'll let you do it sure but i mean the auto play feature. I'm fine with taking that away. I would absolutely watch less youtube do it. I didn't have that wait a minute. Do you follow once. You're watching something on youtube. I just let him watch sex to all so many times one night. It was wet somebody somebody sent me a really cool video of springsteen australia and i ended up watching thirty springsteen videos but then it starts going to other places too and you're watching like rabbits doing something it just the whole all mother crazy thing craziest changes and you just go through this hole's. Your daughter have a twitter handle doesn't she isn't even phone yet. No i don't no she doesn't what's the correct age for a kid a twitter handle now yeah i if you'd be up to me never right the people would say when they get into high school ford org maybe last year middle school thirteen fourteen teenage years right yeah right about right. I take away a lot of my time. Which would be really nice if i didn't if i couldn't scroll twitter that'd be way way better be less time. I'm sending in laying in bed in the morning or even right before i go to sleep scrolling through twitter. I don't wanna do that anymore. That destroyed actually limit the technology yourself on myself. Yeah totally fine with that jank back in twenty eleven kevin smith blasted bruce willis unmarked mirren's podcast claiming smith moviemaker moviemaker <hes> working with the action star bruce willis on the movie cop out with soul crushing when shooting wrapped smith reportedly toasted the crew by saying. I want to thank everybody who worked on this film for bruce willis who is a blanking blank <hes> the recently the to have turned their relationship around thanks to an out of the blue text message willis sent to kevin smith. He says he said quote dear kevin. I i have pictures. I want to send you. I need your home address. Love be dub. The two of them talked for ten minutes and have mended their strained relationship. Have you ever had a falling <unk> out with somebody. You were close to only have a happy ending yet. Joe mcdonnell lakeridge joe mcdonnell and i were were joe for whatever every reason didn't like me and because he didn't like me i didn't like him and in the last two three years of his life we turned it around yeah we <hes> we sat down at a laker game and just kinda talked it out and and <hes> and and by when by the time joe passed away we are on really good terms many big few will you regret shoulder and <hes> uh not not as much as you used to though. I think you're better now you before. You were kind of like in the tom snyder school. You're either with you or against. Yes senate that. You're like that anymore more. Are you know i'm really not <hes> but i do hold a grudge against some people. I held a grudge against a t._j. Saimaa a real growth i. I don't know what i thought that was fatal. There was a real grudge for awhile and akahsi slam me a couple of times in his column. This was before i knew him when i got to meet mm-hmm and got to know him a little bit and he would slam me in his column. I knew he was doing it with a wink right at the beginning. He really pissed me off. I we'll the <hes> the things that is. I always thought t._j. Like totally which was he got us and we got him right like with me. I always took. It's a huge honour when he ripped me in his car i did not. I thought it was funny. I did not but <hes> pity me a huge favor when i was trying to raise money for autism speaks by writing a giant basically making fun of me for being an idiot and i ended up raising forty grand for autismspeaks but i always liked t._j. Miss him. I wish he still had his comedy to either their their grudges. I still hold alfonso ribeiro. I'm telling you that guy cut you off. In the long beach pre and multiple occasions he was he was impossible to deal with in that rhys was a real jackass and he was nasty personally. I really don't like afonso riviera. We brought him on the show. I thought he was fine mind when he was on not after the race was to promote the real upset. He said you had no chan. I hated him. During training. I dunno. I brought to our training. You're on your way to training. We absolutely had him on and you said you've won this thing twice. What's your advice to me and stay out of my way. I'm tony he was a jackass during training he was jackass during the race but my window a nice guy but i wonder if that's what makes him good like in the race win it a couple of times did but i mean he p portrays himself as such this lovable. I'm showing funny videos guy so i you know when ten minutes kind of funny i played pick up basketball. I was in a pickup basketball football game one night with jalil white great guy who's who's a good player too and people were like getting into it with him i think because he had a little noah you're not like oh. I'm gonna go score on him and bob up on. It felt kind of bad because they're like lighten him up because he was on a t._v. Show i had seen a scene with him. In mega shark versus caracas source it was just me and him. I was interrogating jalil white. I thought he was a great guy. We ended up talking fantasy football afterwards. He's a big fan of the show all right more fasttrack in two minutes mason and ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. I roll non with fasttrack ireland. It still all right <hes> mace nathan patterson person went to a colorado rockies game last month as a fan and up in the concourse they have a thing for fans where you you step up and throw a baseball and they register your your speed on radar yes so he did that in the stands and <hes> with a little bit of a crow hop he topped out at ninety six miles an hour patterson's brother christian filmed filmed the whole thing on his iphone in the footage went viral on twitter nathan is twenty three hasn't paid competitive baseball since high. I school still ninety six miles. An hour is almost unheard of so the oakland a.'s reached out to patterson and two two weeks after he pulled the stunt at the rockies game the as have signed him to a minor league contract simply based on the fact that he was able to throw oh ninety six miles are the as being smart or stupid here. They're being smart. I mean there are a a low budget organization and you never know where or you're gonna find talent. It's a great story and it would be unbelievable if that kid made it in the movie the rookie with dennis quaid yup. This is kind of what happened. Dennis quaid was or jim. Morris yeah was pitching and texas. He was a high school baseball coach jeff and he had had a brief minor early career but he he flamed out and so he was probably in his thirties and this is actually disney did the movie and it came out really good. He's pitching batting practice to his high school team any told him look. If you guys make the playoffs they haven't made the plastic ten years. He said they said <music> coach. If we make the playoffs you have to try out for a major league team. You have to try out so they made the playoffs. You went to trot hit ninety five on the gun and that was the beginning. If jim morris going to the tampa bay devil so you never know i love stories like this and we're talking the overwhelming majority jordy. We're talking about this. During the trade deadline of baseball prospects guys who sign majorly contract eighty percent of them never make it to the major. Why not take a flyer on this gaffe yeah especially when you know you don't necessarily have the money for a gigantic scouting department the way some teams have or if you're the as why not take a shot. I completely agree jay. There's a bell jay is all over the board today early. The last week <hes> we saw the mass of bench-clearing brawl between the pirates and reds which revived greatest revived the talk of possible criminal criminal charges being filed in a baseball game it started when kiana kayla nearly hit reds batter derek dietrich in the head with a ninety plus mile an hour fastball fastball hamilton county prosecutor joe dealers said in a tweet during the game gutless behavior from the pirates pitcher used throw something that hard at a person's head ed in any other circumstances. You're ending the night in handcuffs. Even though it's part of the game for pitchers to sometimes go after batters in this this instance or can you imagine an instance where a pitcher should be criminally charged. I don't like crossing the line. I don't like law enforcement. Commit coming into professional sports and filing criminal charges against players. I think the sports should police themselves but mace for one hundred years baseball players have been thrown at each. It's not it's not getting any better. They don't get it so maybe this would swing at the other way and didn't <hes> kate after the game with you saw the guy's head he acknowledged st was throwing up and in purpose pitch up in it was basically an admission of guilt. He was suspended ten games which is pretty significant ignificant for a reliever yeah. I've so maybe it is a good idea. What do you think i may. I'm not against it if these players don't stop throwing each other's heads yeah i think it's i don't believe leave that. It's <hes> it's the right play. I do believe baseball needs to crack down on it and start sending some message back to pitchers who are actually out there doing doing this and i'd be curious to know. Baseball has been getting more serious about it. I'd be curious to know if baseball is cracking down more on pitcher's pitcher's throwing out batteries and maybe just the threat of legal persecute or prosecution is <hes> is enough to get baseball to step it up yeah. Maybe it'll help j. all right last one for me. Gotta game <hes> since jason. He'll just play between you and grey. Tabby are spending time in huntington beach so i have a simple simple fact or fiction quiz about huntington beach okay all right the city gets its name from the huntington shipping yard who agreed to move of all of its operations from long island new york in the eighteen hundreds during the gold rush creating thousands of jobs and stimulating the once sleepy beach town greg true through a false false mace true or false. I will say that's true. <hes> greg is the winner <hes> it's false. It's named after american and businessman henry huntington who built a railroad through here all right in fact number two huntington beach is the home of the national professional paintball ball league championships the n. p. p. l. holds the first event of the year in the last week of march. Mace true or false are the national paintball championships held here and honey pot. It seems so huntington beach that i think it's probably true all right gregg. It's very huntington owning beach. I'll say it's true. You guys are both right. It's one hundred percent true last week of march right sport number three the city was once owned by spain and the main thoroughfare of huntington beach beach boulevard was originally a cattle route for the main industry of the rancho greg true or false sure true base true or false. I'll go true also both right again that was that was owned by spain and they used to run cattle then beach boulevard in nineteen thirty three city officials gave huntington beach high school the nickname the waves a name adopted because of the great surfing they have here pepper nine later copied the nickname in malibu mace true or false. <hes> seems a little on the nose. I'll say false great. I think the only one that's as a false. He has a right it was the huntington. High school was built in one thousand nine hundred six schools team. You know when you guys know what it is. No pelican the oilers named after the city's first natural resource all right gregg four steve has three this city's ocean view little league won the twenty eleven little league world series championship beating japan two to one nick prado who is now twenty years old was the best this player on that ocean view team and now a first baseman in the kansas city royals farm system greg true or false. Wow okay see a lot of there's a lot of facts there. I don't know if you're just messing with the facts there man. I think ocean view did win so i'm it's true all right mace <hes> <hes> nick. I will say it's true. It is true. There's a lot of facts in there which probably is screwed me up all right right now. It's great five steve four and this is the last one so you're both in it and grab you have to go first because surfing is so popular in huntington beach. There are no no no dogs allowed on the beaches anywhere in the city. There is let's look there is a dog park in seal beach which borders the city ready to the north greg true or false. There are a lot of dogs that are allowed in lot of places. I'm gonna say it's full all right. Mace got no choice but to go true. <hes> greg is the winner. The orange county register consistently no choice. There's a lot of people say choice that screw the i can win the game by going. It's huntington dog. Beach is the best park in orange county. According to the register some popular events that take place at dog doc beach are surf city surf dog and the so cal corgi nation beach day there. You go so greg. You're the winner who got six out of seven. The giants only helped me with like to all right so last night was not a night for straight edge mace. It was a night night for venice mace so a saturday right the concert correct all right well no last night sunday but the concert was saturday night right. Yes so too <hes> too vast yeah yeah so here's a game of famous people who were born in long beach california okay last night. That was thinking we were going to long beach uh-huh we're actually in huntings and venice face all right so this is a game between you to your name. Is your buzzer going to give you clues to a famous person born in long beach. Okay you tell me soon as we seek. We've got it. We wreck okay. She starred in the film ten and is married. John bodak kodak has correct. John is on the board number two. This actor was married to lisa. Marie presley greg greg wait. I guess he's technically we now isn't elvis presley. He's an actor dad you three edison so keep this. This actor was married to lisa. Marie presley and his uncle is francis ford coppola nicolas ken his karate yeah. We're looking for michael jackson. Mary her for little exactly all right number three. He was a standout wide receiver at u._s._c. john john oh wait a minute. There's a lot of those <hes> <hes> u._s._c. i was going to jackson. I'll say curtis conway at is not correct okay. He was a standout wide receiver at u._s._c. and is currently going into his his third season with the steelers greg greg. Would you smith shooter smith schuster <unk> dancer too. She's a former world number number one tennis player who had a highly publicized tennis match against john billie jean cat is correct. I feel insane being low and you know what i was trying to. I know i know i didn't know if you're gonna go. The stabbing go against the male tennis player of course billy <hes> bobby riggs and the last last one all right. There's you know two and a half yeah and it's three two one steal it. She joined the cast of beverly hills nine o. Two one o. After the departure of shannen doherty oh john drake john tiffany amber that is absolutely the only kelly capacity and there you go. There are famous people who would not be able to talk to if i missed that last that's when he was addicted to try to do famous people from huntington well. That's good 'cause we'll be in orange. Stay one city behind signed for the entire week there you go. There's your fasttrack more mason and ireland next e._s._p._n. L._a. Hey we're live in huntington beach at resort and spa mason ireland. I think we're we're just talking about. Max brown is going to be part of the u._s._c. pre and post game him this year football radio we there we no longer have the u._s._c. games but he's max is gonna be on that crew and he actually transferred out of u._s._c. right and as i recall you so you can check me on this. He was part of the famous. <hes> one guy plays one half. One guy plays the other half game in hawaii. It was cody kessler wrestler and max brown. I think won the job. I think you're getting those confused. I think max brown started the season as a quarterback and was replaced by sam darnold. I think he played a game. An alabama waxed u._s._c. and then they brought salmon after that but i could be getting them confess because remember sam didn't start until the utah game in week four <hes> the year that he won the right but then lost his first start to a utah sixteen. I think max brown was the guy that that same replaced. I think max was the quarterback trojans here where greg's looking it up. <hes> in two thousand sixteen max brown is fighting for the starting jobs. That was the year that he did. I think he was the quarterback think darnold was the quarterback in sixteen and seventeen seventeen and then he went to the jets and so where he was the climate on me. I miss money thousand bucks thousand bucks mythical money right off. How did you say that cody kessler replaced max brown icy sam darnold replace max brown. That's the that's the bet all right somebody that knows this. It's this is easy. This is easy money okay because i was at that game in hawaii. <hes> the <hes> twenty sixteen season sam darnold took over for max brown. Let me go ahead. Keep yeah behind next season to redshirt. Freshman darnold was the second string quarterback behind max brown round victory dollars four. So what am i thinking you're thinking of mail her back's wittig yeah. That's what you gonna. Max wooded brands for the update used you before i made the bet <hes> he massacre versus alabama. That's how a a sense of how to the wolves. Sam darnold took over game four against utah. Remember 'cause then lie also the team. It was max brown. That's older god. They wanted to let you know sam darnold uh-huh kind of mixed up your max wittig max wittig both dan max did nothing dan giving away a thousand dollars dollars that easy. I lost it over the weekend on on a bellinger bed anyway by the way are <hes> mythical money is brought to you by the bicycle hotel and casino the it'll be interesting this year with u._s._c. is everybody assumes j._t. Daniels as the starting quarterback me to this air raid raid. You never know 'cause he. Gains didn't come here to play. The air raid so graham harold calling the plays. They've got like three really good quarterbacks in camp. Maybe one of them beats him out. I don't know <hes> supposedly. It's an open competition but i'm using air quotes. I think it's <hes> j._t. Daniels job. I nine oh. They were bad. That's better that he looked good. I thought he was fine. He was he was totally fine. I mean he was a true freshman member true freshman not a guy who <hes> who was redshirt freshman he he eighteen years old and he actually really left high school early to get a jump on things so i thought he actually i. Let's put it this way they their problems last year. Were not quarterback. They had problems all all over the place. Yeah they had a they had problems everwhere. <hes> and i'm excited to see the new offense. Apparently it's going to be very uptempo. Apparently it's going to they're going to throw the ball a ton especially especially the wide receivers. They're going to be quick outs because their <hes> their offensive line wasn't good last year is not necessarily going to be a strong point this year so they're going to he plays where he just gets the ball away fast and don't sleep on the air raid. John don't sleep on the air raid yeah. I am sleeping in the air raid. I but i will say this i think i think it's gonna win the south but i think u._s._c. and u._c._l._a. Have a chance. I think that u._s._c. u._c._l._a. Game might mean something this year unlike last year. Which was you know. It was like you know two teams that would circling the drain and u._c._l._a. Beat them. I think the the key for clay helton this year is don't lose the opener to fresno state which is possible fresno no state now jeff tedford who's the coach there and they finished number eighteen the country <hes> last year don't lose that and come out of the first six games with the three and three record 'cause they open against fresno state at home stanford at home at b._y._u. Which is a tough game home to utah at washington at notre dame three and three. You want three and three that i think i think that's what clay helton needs to do. You think he's sitting around and go rian three. There's a couple of three over the first six yes. There's a couple of the way and i'm not saying amy stick around. I wanted him fired after last year. So i'm willing that's what he needs to do boy and we we have we have two examples of when you fire football coach in the middle of the season. You'd better have somebody else who can take over and i'm not sure they do graham harrell. The first thing to watch is whether or not lynn swann is still the athletic director when the season starts right <hes> <hes> there's a big there's a bunch of rumors coming out of there that they have a new president that has a bunch of problems on her plate and that lien may not survive it if he's he's out. He's the guy who gave clay helped me. Extension and klay may be in trouble but mace even if play has a tough year. I wouldn't fire him in the middle of the season. I just don't i think that makes any sense in college sports near the twice. They did it with lane. They had to do was sark sock. Was we worked with coach. Oh they ended up down there really good year but then they get rid of them but it still worked. It's an in terms of firing amid season that was year they finished <hes> didn't finish ten and two that year no that would tend to blaine ten and two was laying right coach. Oh they finish like eight and four. They finished strong. Yeah they can't win over stanford and and everybody thought they're going to give coach oh the job and they didn't stanford was my that u._s._c. Stanford game was my dad's last foot coach last game. You've got to go see coach. Oh took over for lane then. They fired fired. Lane and race are with sark and the klay took over for sark yeah but <hes> you know those are a lot of people in this room won't go away. I don't know if they're saint saint to it. There's a lot of people who think urban meyer who's going to work for fox on their college. Football pregame show in their century city studios. This year is just waiting in the wings to take over a year from now at u._s._c. Myers gonna finish his career as the coach of the trojan and i mean schedule wise they've done klay. No favours fresno state is going to be pretty decent at home to stanford early. I hate when they have the u._s._c. stanford game so early at b._y._u. Which is which is a rough trip home to the south <hes> <hes> favourite uta than at washington at notre dame in back to back weeks those first six games are brutal and i think yeah if he can come out or that three and three that will be <hes>. That'll be a strong play for clay. I <hes> more mason and ireland coming up next by the way purgatory is coming up for you. George sodano will be here live guitar at the sale hotel and spa mason and ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. Could there be anything better than being at at the beach huntington beach summertime passaic hotel and spa where on the p._c._h. At huntington street <hes> pacific <hes> city shopping shopping mall is right next door. We're here all day including the sodano show which is coming up next and day two of e._s._p._n. O._c. week is tomorrow. It is taco tuesday. Stay at el torito in orange from six a._m. To seven p._m. For complete list of all of our e._s._p._n. O._c. events follow us on twitter instagram and facebook at e._s._p._n. Los angeles and don't forget tonight as mason movie night at the regal cinemas in garden grove. We're going to see hobbes and shaw which is supposed to be great with the rock and with jason statham and with idris elba john while i was at the mumford and sons concert on saturday night you were over there seeing walker bueller and he struck out fifteen fifteen was the fastest game of the year two hours eighteen minutes. It was great bueller. Look great justin turner hit a home run and then there was the game yesterday that lasted four hours and the dodgers won eleven to ten which was also great but a completely different experience. Yeah nazi had the walk off yesterday. That is actually the first regular regular season walk-off of munchies career course hit a walk off in the postseason against the red sox hit a home run in the what was that seventy seven eighth inning. Whenever i think of that i think of the time i called the show is on. I was like on a laker trip and i called the show and and this is back when you were allowed calls and accused you of leaving early. I didn't say it was me yeah. I called and said i can't believe you left early. Mac your mic smash micciche moment and you hey listen. I didn't leave early to not leave early. I said it was ben from la mirada. It was sitting with the annoying steve futterman and he back me up that i was their mission. I can't believe you'd have to early. I leave early ben. Hey so vince carter was just announced is going to play for the hawks this season. It'll be as twenty second season which is the most in n._b._a. History passing four guys you know the four four guys play twenty one years at least two of them are in the hall of fame. Maybe three three three of the four in the hall of fame any idea one of them just retired just retired yeah let this last year was his last year. Oh dirk berkshire novitsky right. <hes> one is well. I'm trying to think that you won't get once kevin garnett once kevin willis and the other one's robert parish but if no vince carter plays in twenty twenty yeah he will be both if at the start of the season he only needs to make get until january and it will accomplish it if he plays in a game in january. Yeah he'll be the first player in n._b._a. History to appear in a game in four different decade wow how how he would have been coming in the ninety eight in the ought they are paid in the two thousand ten's and he would play in two thousand twenty. Wow that's amazing yeah. Kobe twenty dirk jerk played twenty-one dirk has a record for most your spent with anyone team right twenty one and and carter going back to the hawk still going man good for him. L. gone as our friend. Jalen rose would say keep getting them checks. Yeah forty two right. Yeah which is also is that tom brady's age thirty just turned and forty two and just got an extension <hes> which is deceiving because apparently the first year is for real than the second two years aren't for real. Did you see this today right. Well it which is typical with n._f._l. Contracts the first years guaranteed and after that it's not they're going to have to renegotiate something else else after this year for him to come back for his interesting about tom brady's he's never been the highest paid player in football his whole career even though he is generally regarded as the most accomplished i i think he's the sixth paid quarterback for this year yeah so the moral of that story is marius supermodel and then your team can afford a whole bunch of other. It's it is one of the patriots treats <hes> secrets to success is that they never had to break the bank for tom brady. It's a lot like dirk nowitzki in dallas. They never had to break the bank for dirk. He was willing to play for pay. Ah play for less almost every year tim duncan to tim duncan same thing <hes> because if you're the cost control contract in the middle of your team at allows a the team to surround you with with more talent and what's interesting is the patriots really don't have a lot of other all pro guys you know they just basically have brady eighty and a bunch of guys that you did any other team could have gone out and found gronk would've been the exception but now they're gone. You know crocs retired so i guess would edleman be the second best player on the patriots. Yeah i'd say probably that's right yes so it's pretty amazing with brady and belle checkup and able to do. Are you picking them again. Are are you picking them to go to the super bowl of course not at of the a._f._c. all out of the rams kansas city kansas city well. I'm going ramsey k._c. A._c. That would be a super bowl just to be different. I'll go rams and colts justed. Throw a wildcard into it but i think the rams big is challenged by the way it's gonna come from the eagles in the n._f._c. I don't think it's a cowboys eagles yeah no. I don't think it's the cobb i don't. I don't think they're going to start the year with ezekiel elliott. I think this thing is going to drag on for a why don't think the chargers gonna start with melvin gordon but i think the cowboys could start with the zeka. They gotta pay him by the way over here. We've got standards of ourselves. Did you see these standards yeah. I walked by him. Did you notice that mine is the second shortest and you and i are approximately the same height. I'm taller than you but i mean barely if if you look at those those standards it's not representative of no. I'm at least a half a foot shorter. Though no no way i'm like two inches tall and then george is like just a tiny little person <hes> did they have do. They have one of del trudell like that comes up to your waist. Trudell did not qualify for the for the sandies wendy's but no georgia's easily the shortest and his george shorter than us barely not he should be here. Barely he should be here by now yeah yeah. I don't see right there yeah. It's only come over here. Let's let's why would argue that you're going to tape. Measure your hair taller than sodano a hair taller them sodano. No yeah back to back all right. Let's do it back to back to back. Am i not not toes hollering you a little bit i did. I thought didn't you see yeah yeah. Did you see the standards over there. You're easily the shortest of the state your weight your foot shorter than ireland a day tissue presentative. No i don't care it would get to me you well. We all know that it was like it bothered me that i'm three inches shorter than ireland because in real life. I'm not three to shorter than you like to. I don't even think that's true. I tell you <hes> five ten and a half and a half yeah. I'm exactly exactly six three and a half. I know you're a hat by the way i'm tall. Yeah sounds like right yeah but i could care less. What difference does it make. How you're what happens. What about his those standards. Who is the guy that got screamed in the in the fast food restaurant because he was which who's seen the video. There's this guy we talked about last week. We actually played the clip of him. Is this the guy oh the bagel guy vaguely yeah yeah yeah. You don't know what it's like to women on social media coach short licking their lips all right coming up next for is purgatory sneak preview georgia's there. He is definitely shorter than both me and ireland yeah now shorter than greg too. I think maybe told him and trudell although yes and then cams and both can't hurt is much taller than all of this kirk is just a big mess. He's a big man yeah. Purgatory is <hes> coming up next with george and kirk morrison. We're live from the per se hotel and spa in huntington beach e._s._p._n. L._a. I'd it is <hes> purgatory mason ireland sodano lonzo and kirk morrison. We are live at the resort and spa and hotel all those things it's the resort and hotel and spa have be checked out any of them in huntington beach no not yet yeah yeah well. I mean straight edge. Mace venezuela should be taken advantage of venice mace. <hes> came out to play all weekend. Long long heard all weekend long. I was at the mumford and sons concert on saturday night and that was a real wheat a palooza yeah yeah. We're at the bank of california stadium. Oh elliott first time i've ever seen a concert there. It is replaced see a concert. I would imagine it's got to be great. There's he's only twenty something thousand seats so everything should be always like the acoustics of the stadium because the soccer stadium. It's the sound in the crucifix. Were fantastic. It's interesting. You say say that all night long. I was like man it sounds so good and the thing about him is his voice sounds the same in person as it does on our on on recording right. I mean which is almost never the case in this era of auto tune. I mean you can just flat out saying plow. Play plays. Dr plays the drums. I mean he's just he is a virtuoso yeah so let me ask you guys this i._s. Mason earlier. I was at the dodger game on saturday night. Okay walker bieler strikes out fifteen justin turner homers dodgers went four two one one of the fastest games of the year two hours eighteen minutes so i left my house at four forty five okay all right was in my seat for first pitch and was home by nine o'clock now yesterday. Dodger game at dodger stadium nine eleven ten tents or mac max muncie wins it on unexciting walk off in the bottom of the ninth three hours fifty six minutes which if i've told you you can attend one but not both do you want the fast game pitcher stool with the fifteen strikeouts or do you want the eleven ten with the walk off. That's four hours. I liked the pictures. Do quick easy next thing you know like the games already over your tail l. No eleven your personal is where we live at two like going onto. A dodger game is not just hey three or four hours out of your day. It is a four day almost commitment six seven our commitment to one game gimme the action action every time and you know this notion of time and how long these games take an n._f._l. And college football game takes three and a half or four hours three our no no no no. That's not one. No i know i know why those ten o'clock games now end. I know no way leverage n._f._l. Game is you'd be surprised. What do you got to take a guess. The average game put them all in in every fifteen real to mace. How long do you think it is three hours twelve minutes. It's three oh eight three alone but those ten o'clock games are all going past one o'clock now and every single one of them but here's the thing orlands. You always complain about pitchers tools. You want scoring right then either sudden you want isaiah pitchers loved. I wouldn't say four to one is a pitcher stool surest the strike outs. Five runs of scoring is enough for me. I i thought what i loved about that. You love the homerun. You love to see schooling. I got two homers. I got five runs. I got a lot of there. Were a couple of steals rundown. There was a great diving catch what i loved about. It was the pace ace of the game two hours. Eighteen minutes was just like moving and you felt like took longer to commute but i liked it. I feel like i went to a movie. Ian came home. If i would have gone yesterday in that sun ninety degrees four hours catan fit jimmy the action get the actual man gimme a walk off walk off are fairly rare. Yeah don't see walk-offs all that much but still i wanna game. It's gonna be short. It makes it makes every pitch to be much more important. You work in college football. Every game is four hours by got a clock. That tells me it's going to end up with more games for hours. Now almost depends as i worked. I worked three seasons of sidelines in college football and the the weird thing is if you have a day game and you have a flight that night and you think you have plenty of time and you're gonna make it never have and then the game starts going late and it's always like man i never. I hope i make my flight yeah yeah. It never had that dilemma. A couple of times at at noon. Game is seven thirty five. I'm like come on. This should be easy. I have a noon game couple of weeks at virginia tech and i have a noon game. Local time of flight leaves at four thirty nine. Oh you're making your way game so they want it. They how about twenty minutes no way because you gotta if the game ends early say the game goes three hours. Are you fast game three hours ten minutes. He'll take three thirty our certainly the non conference schedule. They're planning against the cupcake. That's actually worse 'cause it's gonna score seventy points but the clock is going move and it's gonna be a lot of run plays. You're listening to caspian in los angeles. I did an all star game with jerry coleman years ago the late great jerry coleman sir and i was so excited to be doing an all star game is doing the player interviews and i was super excited about it. <hes> it was my first all star game and i just remember the very first pitch and here i am all excited. Jerry coleman turns turns around and says you think i'm gonna make my flight pitch in the back of your egmont as great that way to thirty to forty five you're pretty much in and out the door barring like a quadruple overtime. The best is soccer stage j._j. Hours they do forty five minutes then you break for fifteen and you do forty five minutes and they add a little extra time for injuries but it's always two hours in your out yeah n._b._a. If they can only speed up those last two minutes they're working fouling up the last two. Did you see what that big tournament that the tournament thing that they're running the basketball tournament that thing to run an on e._s._p._n. Right now which is basically a bunch of old timer guys who were great college players all play for two million dollars they do what they call the <hes> ee lamenting which is <hes> with after the first whistle when there's under four minutes <hes> in the fourth quarter they pick a score right that you have to reach and once you get to that score boom game is over right. That's they're debating whether or not that would be a better way to do it because it like first team to yeah. Yes living emanate all those long drawn out everybody calling time out in the last two minutes mad. The clock wouldn't matter. I team do <hes> one twenty. They'll probably test that in the oh gee league first. That's always the way it has a good idea. I think they may do it in the big three they didn't i know in at tournament in vegas. They had a three tournament and they did it but i would try george. I made the arguments today. I would try everything in the g. League i would i would try if you know any crazy idea like they. They had an idea the w._n._b._a. All star game last weekend. They had hockey substitutions in other words. You could run like kirk. You're in the game yeah. They send me in for you without a time out you run by we tag in wrestling. You're out. I'm in. I like and they tried. I'd say you're perfect. G. leak experiment thing called the transition foul which is kind of like <hes> what's that foul when god open court path open clear path calling pulling a transition because then you can <hes> you can take the ball out from the other side of the court already like what i'm saying like it just and they have a time out that speeds it up did you were you automatically. Go to mid court like the g. League is doing stuff like that. That's what they found the the challenges. I think that two years ago down the four point line michael thompson wants that slobby but they're going to move the three point line back farther back in you move or more feet twenty twenty five nine how much for geyser shooting such deep threes yeah yeah. They're gonna go at night against mitch. I'll bet you anything you want that happens within the next two years. How much farther can you move twenty five nine lee that was steps on a retort washing five nine. No i'll just say like every time you move it back. They're going to continue to keep shooting horner's the corner still there but the the the the the wings you can move the daimler line. I call it. The wings can be moved. Not everybody shooting twenty. I five nine threes though maybe staff and like the trae young some of those guys dave lillard but i would say ninety percent of the league can't shoot that so what would mason was going over the decade teams the three and there's i seem second him thirteen klay not on any of how could klay not be on clay was drafted in two thousand eleven time all star. <hes> dwayne wade is on their credit paul chris paul well. The status first team fema staff co harden lebron <hes> k. d. and koi no issue there yeah. Those are good second team. <hes> c. p. three westbrook. It's brooke a._d. Blake griffin and carmelo anthony uh-huh and thirteen is wade koby paul george lamarcus aldridge and janas yahoo is he bumping and i i in in that scenario. I would bump honest for clay. Jaanus is no. They're not no no oh. I see it's just five guys you honestly. It's been great for the last two years. Eighteen and nineteen clay was great for a bunch of times but he's carrying team whereas claes number two years. It's an all decade team. I mean i mean i get it but yet is an old that plays a five-time all-star yana says to you know i only a two-time most yeah. He's a three time all star three times all n._b._a. Yanni's janis is clay. Don't know the end. I think he's three and <hes> but he didn't make it this year. Which is the one that hurts his contract but i just think that the warriors eight years have been the team of the decade and only have one they have durant and stuff but really steph is the only full-time warrior. Which is you know. It seems to me. The warriors don't get there without steph van clay away and i you could even make an argument for draymond dream on him ahead of mellow yeah. I don't know yeah. I mean mellow early in the decade was really really good early in the decade but no playoff wins right they won. Sear is the one two zero nine this value champion the roy hibbert blow george teams. They lost two in the second round. Mel one one series with the knicks yeah. Oh i was thinking when miller was on the nagano with the knicks they were in the second round. They lost to the pacers. <hes> you have a draymond claire the finals every year i get that but mellow in i mean he's a sure fire hall of famers jim on a surefire. Mellow is in the two thousand three draft. What's your what's lebron threat so we have ron wade though so he was in the last decades carmelo still fight fourteen <hes> try. I would think some you know like he said lays only two time all n._b._a. How many times has mellow been all n._b._a. In this decade that'd be that'd be the hard one but i think doc that mellow should be on a roster someplace. I mean there's fifteen guys on a team. There's thirty teams telling me he's not somewhere on. That list says interviews stephen him yeah. You should be on the team somewhere but not by. I mean the problem is all the general manager seemed to agree carmelo three three times this decade all n._b._a. So one clay okay. I mean that the problem with carmelo what i mean there's a consensus among general managers they don't want him well tampa's defense and he doesn't defend and he and he doesn't shoot three's anymore yeah why michael pearson calling me by the way and there's some question about whether or not he does he think you're <hes> easy unaware that you're on the air. I don't know he's sitting here producer. He's got urgent. Information apparently could just text me. I guess all right that's the end of purgatory chapter one and after two is next on e._s._p._n. Analyst i we are live purgatory from per se resort resort and spa and hotel. It is monday of o._c. Week we'll let you know that tomorrow is going to be taco tuesday. Where at el el torito in in city of orange tomorrow so you can come on hang out with us. They're tonight is mason movie night which is is <hes> at the regal cinemas in garden grove and the movie is hobson shaw which i hear is great has got idris elba's the bad guy the rock ecorse and jason statham <hes> and we just got news here that the raiders have officially naming rights for their brand new stadium in las vegas. I guess it is a liar caribbean stadium. That's not backup choice jolly roger stadium no it is not jolly roger stadium. It is allegiant allegiant stadium and i don't you guys just tell me it's a it's a hair. Spirit airlines really just a step above yeah. I've never even heard of allegiant alex ever flown allegiant. I know i know it exists. Remember on an agent for a college team but it's <hes> yeah like you know like you say everybody makes fun of spirit. We all know why you know for numerous reasons but yeah it's a it's barely bossie is run and find a seat yeah run and find a seat. Ah your carry on right all right. We charge you for everything on this thing <hes> yeah. It's it's like that kind of so. They fly out of santa monica airport. Oh really yeah plan to santa monica airport so small airports. Have you flown allegiant. I have maybe like a charter flight. I believe once yeah like san diego estate. Maybe but other than that that's all they did was small these charges yarder. They're one of those kind of airlines. Ram stadium does not have a name yet really. That's gonna ask ah well. That's gonna command top dollar to yeah. They're gonna want like like hep c. or someone. I always say if you can get the first name of a building. That's that's what you want like. These guys are leader. Smart like staple center has never been named anything else like kirk word of the giants play baseball the baseball giants. It's right now. It is park. Oh it's oracle yes. It's fun to to oracle <hes> and so if you are if staples decided to give up the naming rights at staples center and we had to start calling that building yeah you know sub- the hines or of reno just the competitor right. It doesn't stick for for years when the chargers play down in san diego we referred to that place as jack murphy stadium murph and qualcomm paid for the rights for like ten years. I still think the ducks play at the arrowhead pond yeah. They complain at the honda center for like fifteen years. Yeah you want the first name i do you want first name and if you don't get the first name don't get in it and you know like united tried to buy part of the coliseum but it wasn't the actually actually was like the field united field and now now they've backed out no. I thought it was still united at the field at the los angeles memorial coliseum. They've decided to back out all the other. They've decided that since it was a memorial coliseum that it was this wreck will slap a sponsor name on it and united backed act out plus. We all refer to it as just the coliseum bright or not going to start calling it like do the theater that's next to where our studios are across from staples nokia theatre okay. You guys know that for ten years. It's been the mic shows to microsoft. I refuse to accept the new spala aw point. I got suckered in you. Did he used to be nokia yeah. Every l. called it nokia and they changed that sorry. I don't let the microsoft but they both called it nokia yeah. That's what if you don't kid in on the first one. It's all confusing. I don't know i think about this. The seattle seahawks folks where they play at chase field. Though the seattle seahawks football centurylink centurylink center bringing it started as quest mariel was passed so actually centrally angelique is kind of taken away from the old queso best name. I've told the story benjamin the best name ever most appropriate name ever for an arena is so the sixers serves play at its right and it's but wells fargo is a bank so it started as the wachovia center yes and then was wachovia. Via kabul was bought out by first union bank so it was in philadelphia the center the first union center and then first this union got bought out by wells fargo and so now it's the wells fargo center but first union was the most perfect name of an arena ever 'cause philly fans are so salty. Welcome welcome back to the center. You're right. I think the first name is the name most people go. It happens when staples naming rights deal and i think it was twenty five years so it's coming up. This is the twentieth year now somebody else. You don't think they would staples is not a growth business. People order their office as online nothing the growth business right but don't you order your office supplies on amazon by the way i went to a mall this weekend. Yeah i want to support nine of funny. I wanted to support retail it enough <hes> <hes> dilemma mall and got applause retail fully down there. They're right across the st. Not everything has to be delivered right to your home. Don't be lazy ass well. Here's the thing have you been to the century city shopping center now. That's the template for the new mall. Shopping center is unbelievable randy's donuts in their italy alone. All the italian joint leaders great is really in there and they got a great restaurant yeah but yet mace you don't support retail anymore. Yeah i support the retail that comes from amazon. I i still technically retail. If i'm buying snow somewhere like bringing mortar brick and mortar no brick and mortar is so last century it is it really is jobs man like go support. Those people man no thinking go to work for amazon for tourists honestly george for tourists worth a tourist spot. That's a tourist trap dilemma. Molin torrents is not a tourist pitino. It's coming. Let's say let's say tomorrow. We need we need. You and i need a red golf shirt. Show tomorrow. Okay you go. You're going to stop by the monitor way sporting according goods and grow. I'm getting runs if i if i order it now on my phone from amazon they they now have same day delivery. It would be at my house by the time i got home. They're getting super smart about the seven pretty soon george. They're coming with drones drones. Just go down down down mason. Did this story last week car by the time your kids are old enough to order an uber self driving cars not only self driving cars gonna pull up in front of your house that it has no steering wheel and no pedals yeah. It's just gonna pull up and you're gonna get in it and no driver and it's going to take you to where you wanna. Go have a self driving car right now mason. Would i would absolutely yeah. They're self driving cars everywhere right now known occasionally. You'll hear about one that screwed up right occasionally. You know how many regular people screwed up trust me. A self. Driving car is much better than having me on the road. You do not want me on the road. That computer will drive better than i do. I promise you and by the way with texting and all that stuff don't you think a computer which has its sole attention as getting you from point a. to point. B. is better off than people texting arrived. I israel. I just wanted to ask you the question. If you actually gotten in one oh yeah yeah no. I don't know where they are. Yeah okay so hey before would if the rain i'm in. Here's an update from ramona on allegiant air allegiant charges for everything spirit. Yeah it's like twenty bucks for a seat than five dollars for a coke oke. Super annoying airline used to fly him up to oregon literally. I stopped and gave up the direct flight because i hated it so there you go so you see. I wouldn't fly spirit. I wouldn't fly collegian either. I don't even like to fly southwest to be honest with you. If you can't pick your seat beforehand like i'm getting in there and elbow man oh man michael thompson true story. This will surprise no-one sitting here. Michael thompson drove up to the studio the he lives in orange county. He drove up to the studio because he doesn't have a printer at in his true. He didn't think that a fedex wanted to be at a computer when the clock struck like like twelve ten which was his flight time the next day so he could get sporting pastime southwest any so he drove an hour and a half printed sporting past lasted one segment with us and when he couldn't he could pull that up on his phone that he couldn't have what's coming up on the big sodano shaw aw bill is gonna stop. I we're gonna chat with him and albert breer of sports illustrated. We'll talk to him n._f._l. With him and <hes> you know what kind of get after it kirk is the helper today today nice nice saturday. He got nice little tan going. Everybody's willing to get their west coast trips n._f._l. Reporters have tan right now because they're all it's <hes> tramper by the way you might mention named one of the forty most influential splendor forty people under the age of forty two years ago which i was still under four. I find to be very offensive. Let's of why we're why because what who said that arbitrary age who decided it was funny listen. I'll be under fifty five hundred fifty five. I would make john would you know shame the promise. You wouldn't make the under fifty five lists. You know why why you're the only one here only has one. There's that they have all job coming up for you tonight. <hes> is mason movie night. We'll see regal garden grove for the cops and shaw and then tomorrow we are all live at el torito in the city of orange taco tuesday yeah that will be. I promise you a wild scene and then john and i are going to go bowling s._m._u. Bold spit years she to turn pro ones. Yeah toledo big bowling only towns. I bet i bet that now. I mean is it better. Are you better bowler than your. Maybe a basketball player i roller. The video was misleading the floor her coming thursday yeah. What's that mason the golfer for coming thursday yeah. It's like the olympics this week. He's gonna play black and gold golf from got. It all covered. What's that three. Here's the here's the deal he's paying three holes. He claims he will score twenty five or under. I'm taking the over. What do you think it's a par three par five only three hold on. I twenty five a whole no oh no three to eight on all three makes. I don't think you're getting an eight on any of how trust me you get in there. No i'm getting there. No i am not going to bet on golf his hard man yeah. I don't play it a few times and it's hard you don't play but i intend to go out there and demonstrate that even a non player you might live on my friends or three or four five. What is it that paul kirk all with kerry like over ravine all the water out. You can't even see we're just gonna let he doesn't know that you can't lay up when the water is right. Uh he's kinda hit it over the water. No i'm not i am not going to get a seven iron playing a seven iron or laying up steve tin cup mason. The sedillo is next mason movie night and el torito tomorrow back here at noon e._s._p._n.

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Rob Huebel, Erinn Hayes, Jonathan Braylock, Jerah Milligan, James III

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Rob Huebel, Erinn Hayes, Jonathan Braylock, Jerah Milligan, James III

"This episode of Comedy Bang Bang is brought to you by the daily show. podcast universe a five episode miniseries. Parodying all your favorite podcasts. Hopefully mine search for the daily show. podcast universe in Apple podcasts to hear all five episodes and more from the daily show with Trevor Noah. I'm the fan coming back by buying the the I hate to say it. I love to spray it. Welcome to Comedy Bang. Thank you to supple Nepal full four twenty for that catchphrase emission. I am assuming the first four hundred. Nineteen supple nipples were taken and had to choose. Is that for a non deblum. Welcome to Comedy Bang for another episode on my name is Scott Offerman and we are have a wonderful show for this week coming me up a little bit later. We have a farmer. That's interesting we also someone who is in the Custodial services and we have a either a member. I can't remember if it's the head or a member of the CBA CBC so that's very exciting. We'll be talking to them a little later. But first we turn our attention to the business of show We have a couple of actors on the show and they're going to be talking to us all about the art of acting in the crowd. I I assume it's more craft than they are the stars certainly and they may have other titles on this show so stars I shine celebrate. Does your now yeah I did today. You're on the way today but I have shown yes certainly They have a show. That's currently out on Netflix. Just came out. It's called medical police. Please welcome back to the show Rob Hubel and Erin Hayes. Hi guys thank you thank you. Thank thank you rob. They're going to be an applause. Sound effect that you put in there. I mean can we recorded now. uh-huh what dad get Outta here folk you we'll see you know. My Dad follows me everywhere and clear. Always always you want that coffee in their gothic. Do pick the couple of coffers That's what happens when you come out with an episode in the winter months. How are your resolutions? They're doing Honestly they're really good. I don't think I'm ever GONNA break them. That's great yeah that's Great Yeah I never die is number day never die yet. I have not broken that one yet. I got bad news where you holy Shit is this heaven. God now fell off the as a gunshot. Perform on a podcast. I saw poll commit to a we. Were going to get into craft of acting. Okay so this is what we do. We will be getting medical police in just a second but before we do that The craft left of acting. I is it hard to shoot a fake gun and not make that sound I actually have done that before. Where like I think the first time I'm maybe way back on human giant I would shoot a gun and go like Blah Blah. And they'd be like no no no no. Don't do that with your mouth. Like they would eventually from from what I heard in the trades. They would so your mouth shut they did. Have you ever seen like one of those. Little Shrunken head dolls. Were they I've never seen one of those on the movie beetlejuice use. Yes just like in the movie beetlejuice. Have you seen the movie. Beetlejuice is only seen the play beetlejuice and we said his name Chris. Carlson joker where he He had the scars on his. You didn't see that. But they what we're talking about a sewing. Our mouths shut. Yes so they did so my mouse. Jeff I wouldn't make that Sunday right and then you just farted everytime everytime I shoot a gun right out of your your for real because the you're committing. It is a kraft kraft Aaron. Are you OK Jesus podcast. We haven't embraced reese three sentences and you're out podcast listeners about taking outside call nine one one podcast listeners. This isn't live. She's GonNa be dead are you all right. Don't don't feel like you have to recover yourself. Just take care of yourself. I as a real medical police situation really is waiting. Wait a minute. Is this an ambulance and plug in all this. Get Out of your mouth. Oh my God listen to Aaron. Oh Gosh she's farting. Now what adorable mouth I all right you continue while I talk to you. I'm GonNa Talk to Rob Rob. You're I guess I well. I consider Tom Lennon to be our first guest. I what do you mean I was there. I was there and definitely were there but he was he was like our main. I like incredible guest star and then you were also there. Yeah hanging on his Jock talk about Reno nine one one we you know we do ooh a recurring bit on this show where almost printed it out and brought it for the two of you are and what it is every. I feel like whenever I'm a guest on the show. I can never ever just be myself. See you later. Aaron right by. She's literally taking off. I wonder if she you know God if she pooped her pants. Yeah the first time was on the show. We did this bit and It was just a natural conversation that we were having Between Tom Lennon Star of Reno nine one one one and yourself about human giants right at the time which was on the air. That's right and I think I love you. Man I love you man reference. I I love you man references. We just had that conversation and then on the one hundredth episode. I thought to honor the first episode. We would reenact that conversation without ever telling the audience right. Yeah and it sounds you know people are probably like wait. Why are they talking talking to years on and then but we've done a couple more times we've done four or five times at this point including the ten th anniversary episode? There must be like three people that love this bill and only three people who understand it and everyone else Nelson also. I'd rather listen to stamp. Dot Com commercial. Yeah well you know. They're a wonderful product You enjoy the post office. You would never say anything negative about them right. The hassle of going there is the are we. How did I get roped into doing a commercial for airs back Arizona back wearing different pants? Aaron you pooped in your pants with my mouth parts. I'm really very sorry for that. I would you be worried nervous. I was nervous. I was like what did you sabotage me. What did you do in your water bottle? I put tiny Shards of broken glass. Yeah I it made me cry a little got so hot. I'm tied to take off sweater. Tried to take up you know I didn't I succeeded. A you were wearing during a different layer I reference earlier on an earlier episode. I don't look down below the Chin risky business above the have you. You had any Have you been sexually harassed on this podcast. Where have you been accused of sexually harassing people on the podcast? Never been accused by would love to be sexually harassed. If you have that Komo look at your tits right now enjoy. Oh Yeah it's about to be couple anything nice. Thank you so much for being in our second guest ever on this show. Thank you for allowing me. It's been Erin. I mean you came in early and then not often but you were there Uh Hey I was there. You've never had a coughing fit like that. No this is a verse. So how before have you. That was the first time I've ever coughed. Yeah well I didn't love it. It's a bad feeling. Yeah it's bad. Feeder coming is better. Yeah sure Oh. I've done the coughing pussy. Sure wait coming. Is the coughing never coughed. You've gotta get your opinion on the ratings. Yeah how are the ratings so far. PG Thirteen PG thirteen. Yeah Oh man we cross over into an are without pussy although not oh quite sure well we did win a pre M E. Oh Yeah I WANNA pre emmy for this the just the first portion of this pocket of blessing. you're so blessed guys enough about the pussy talk. It's not that kind of a show. We have to talk about medical police. It is that kind of a show. We have medical police. What is a spin off Of Children's hospital spin off a lot of people don't know what spin offs are anymore because they're not as popular as they used to. That's a great point back in my day. What was the spin off yet? I I am happy. Days spun off into Laverne and Shirley furniture and then they spun off into Mork and Mindy and then they spun off into Joanie loves Chachi. Wow and That was growing pains. Had just the ten of US L. Like so many great spinoffs suggest that there is a fair amount of spin offs on TV right now if are the ABC network. Well there's God blackish Rotich is a spin off your right but you so children's is a spinoff children's ask that you guys were on for several years and twenty five years twenty five years we did it and you guys wanted to remain getting paid and the other people didn't want to stay with that work. A lot of the other castes. died too So this is a spin off where rob not cordray has Clemencia Yep fatal limited. He's bear he's on hanging on ballers colors did the dealers. Oh you get Clemencia. When you're on bolers definitely got committee on Bob's got Columbia just from watching it? Can it can jump onto your TV screen. Yeah he let me see he did ballers. Why am I cordray's manager. He did bonds Welby does a show on CBS. Wait are you saying you don't want ten percent of Cordray fucking takeout next top gear incarcerator. ooh Yeah Oh he's doing he's got that hot tub time machine all the time machine to so cordray. So he's too Biz. He's not he's they're all indus but it's mostly Manera and what happened. was we focus grouped it out and the audiences loved me and air in the most also where the tallest silas were the tallest. It's like a line a- and also ask a lot of people look at Aaron and they say why black wide so you're hitting diversity which is very big airy import. Okay great so when you see if you turn on your net flicks. They hope that people do. I hope you do on your net guys algorithm yourself. Go so let yourself go yourself and just click on medical police. Police let it just run in the other room while you actually get it it done and we are so attractive on the show like I know right now we look frumpy to you. Yeah what is it the way you're dressed or is it your body's it's all of it for me. I can't speak for Aaron. I looked better when I had my other sweater on. I've gotta say today it's it's definitely like you have Fuca Fuca all over. Yeah it's my body thank you. It's my wardrobe I'm wearing ratty underwear wide the ratty underwear it's personal snow preference really. Do you own clean underwear or no. What do you mean it's clean low? It's clean old seeking out of your jeans. Ship stains all all over. He's told me before that he doesn't like to buy new underwear. He likes them just to disintegrate into the wind for the for the earth. Yeah degradable label degradable. If you shouldn't enough if you should on anything enough it becomes biodegradable. That's true yeah that's why you're supposed to replace your toilet like every every six months shit comes out. It's just constant. Erni Avenue replaced your toilet in six months. I look I do it every six days. That's is how much shit on your toilet or in is what do you mean by. Well there's if you open up the LID it has a lid Scott what if you open it up their goal just do it on air and then I pressed that little lever and I hear a noise but nothing happened as a pile. Yeah Shit should pile is what I call it now if you opened up there's a whole with water and it goes it's supposed to go down this tube. Why why didn't anyone tell me about? I don't boy can you come over. No iot your shit pile just over my shit violence each me to do this ed but yet but so so Aaron when you watch the show we do look I would say twenty five to fifty percent more attractive like I just feel like all everything on me as weeping. All the stores is a lot of stores it's like you're a leper. So I'm not working right now. A AH FROZEN TO HASHTAG BE MYSELF NOT coverage. No no you don't want to shake me to. What do you mean? That's when someone says something that I know you don't want to get caught up in doing people get so pissed no Hashtag tag. Never forget to okay. That's good ask we gotta start using some of these so medical police. How many episodes did you do? We did ten must have any episodes how many they don't see it on film. That's a great question the film anymore. And what can I ask and this is a serious question question I want. I know we've been joking around a lot goofing around. Yeah I called Jerry. It's based on the joker joking around and see it but ah we talk about call sheets on this show a lot and I know that you guys number one. Whose number is number one? WHO's number two? I gotta find number two number one number what I what is that based on spurious based on resumes alphabet. You shut the fuck up for a second huckleberry shut up. I'M ROB ROB number. One is speaking. Did you negotiate it. It was just you know it was just really wasn't because because of how many guest star roles you've had as well let's algorithm it's a calculation. How many guests? How many CO stars? How many walk on how many seasons of Kevin can wait? How many was I or did they make do different answers right there reverse rip? Sure I paid Donna. Did they talk about how she died in delay because they said it was going to be a big pigment. Would you do a Kevin can wait podcast office. Ladies podcast Guy Tone every episode. Just be like in this one. My character is understanding nate. Nice talking about when she was understanding by the way I did not come in wanting to talk about this but I suddenly remember that you're on that show so I need to talk to you about it. They they said they. We're going to mention how she died. And they kept like alluding to it but they never said what it was so they never said there was actually And this is quite real. An esquire writer. Who every every week would do a recap of the show and read into every plot line? If it was like he's solving Donna's murder what he said on the hunt for the killer. We'll get this week clue and he'd be like because there was also another carrier that got cut after they died as as well never ever mentioned do you. What do you think it was? Do you think she was decapitated. What do you think it was? It was a water ski accident. It was probably a water ski accident or for more than more than likely not water ski but ATV ran me over an eight hundred or maybe a F. B. America's funniest home videos AF H. Yeah I was killed by cassette. Yeah he just. Can you laugh so hard that you pressed eject on your VCR just flew out in decapitated you do you get. Can we talk about this this or should we not talk okay. Yeah let's talk about it. You get do do paid people to people contact you like. Hey this bullshit i. Can't I believe that brought you. Out of the show I add more people come out of the woodwork. That it fell. I was like what you gotta get fired. Well the find out how many friends you have tax messages from believe I may have I didn't I was pissed. What an injustice seven television shows in subtly yours was take away? Thank God you got this one. Oh Gosh uh-huh high fame is that would be the same. Oh and I think that Kevin James actually is a ghost in he righted this wrong and gave you this television show medical police if you unfinished business here on this earth and he finally took care of it. Now because WHO's seen Kevin James since this show premiered we've seen positively haunting me with more work. Yes because he knows bad K.. Right of the wrong gave you this new show. And then he went up to the having down to hell out of nowhere he went. And now it's taken care of and you're back on our television screens and we couldn't be happier Erin. Hayes slotted pizzas get delivered right to my door hungry number one on the call sheet and Rub. I was number two in the Koshi upset. No because I requested question number two because I'm the Shit I see that duty spot do you get that duty spot. It doesn't what do you do a lot of people who listeners. Don't even know what to call it. Is I believe me they do when you're filming a TV show. You don't have to explain every week. Get a list of the cast. By the way I acted in something today. Not to Brag was it. I don't want to say what it was. But it's for Wendy's mixture of Wendy's and hemorrhoids medicine. What they mash up commercials and the commercials are so expensive now they have to pay for? It's it's like a Taco Bell Pizza Hut a CO OP. So they're like what goes with him or with cream cheese. Yeah exactly yeah I try Wendy's then you're going to need this. Because when can these causes hemorrhoids Diarrhea Hammer. Well sold bad. Yes I gotcha but you were acting today can okay. What is just? Let me one line that you perform. I don't want to give you the line but I one word one word the I know but guess what number was number fifty four higher one hundred and forty two this is oh sorry I mean higher on the hierarchy so a lower number avin three. This is show. That's been on for a while. This is a show. I just did a guest star role. How long has the show been on the first season I see? Oh so it's not awesome. No one gives a fuck about this show. Yeah exactly thirteen Lower do you know your number. I got into into the system of saying lower because eighteen. Thank you so I won't be worth seventeen. Yeah Okay I was right on the edge of seventeen. Did you feel view illegal right. Isn't that weird. Stevie Nicks wrote a song. I guess about banging seventeen year. Yeah right song used to be about seventy s smile little rock saying this song called Christie's fifty six. I think it was so. Oh Yeah you're right. It was sixteen. I'm just but still like they're like razor like thirty five singing that like well. It used to be. Here's my fear. Donald this girl that Sixteen Sixteen when the Beatles sang well she was just seventeen. If you know what I mean. They were seeing for teenagers. who were also seventeen who they were in character? Seventeen couch it that way but then every fucking ski rockstar on the planet just as like cool to talk about bang teenagers. Now let's talk about it anyways. That how St Jeff Christie Plays a young sixteen year old. The Anti on Medical Question Underage Banging non-medical we have should we. Yeah Erna my have rough sex. Yeah Ernie my hand and I will say because it's net flicks They can show it. You know what I'm yeah. Yeah full on. They can show nutrition. Yes so there's like there's like a graphic close up of intercourse. I is it a still shot or a close up front and back seafront season back so now to be honest we had our stunt people do it because we're friends and the people those a little bit cold outside it's an outdoors out of concern for you know what I'm doing back sees. I don't WanNa be cold. Oh I understand okay. I thought you meant for the SYRINGE. But what no expand when it's cold who are who are your Stunt performed my son person was rub. Cordray oh okay so we can can Marino. We know the afterwards disappeared. So we can see Rob Cortes doing siennas. You inner going into Ken into his Weiner because they did fritzy's he's yeah. Oh so Ken Weiner is and his whole is so large that had can't has a can sized hole. Wow Yeah okay. This isn't cordray's reasoning goes into Kens. Weiner whole wow these are all spoilers. Shot Medical Police just watch medical. Police what are your character. Names what are they. I am Dr Lawless Brat on doctor. When Maestro doesn't sound right yeah it is that low normally change it Doctor owned maestro known the name. Oh Yeah Dr Steve Futterman very much better to complete Modera- show would you go to this serious question. Would you take your child to a doctor named Peterman. No no no in fact I go to the doctor at all. No Good No. I don't believe in vaccinations medicine. I don't believe in medicine. I don't know it's kind of slurred. Oh isn't it is I do believe in vaccines No I would not take my daughter to Dr Peterman or Dr Dr Butter butter men or anything close to it. Yeah Dr Lollipop That's a close. No give me some more more more suspicious. Doctor named Dr Touching no doctor White White van. Now what were you gonNa say before. Rob Just steamrolled do you. Is that what this show is all about. Is You like starting to say lines and then rob just steamrolled gladly. Sin Point. That's that was was my experience in acting with rob not. I've never been accused name role. Never never been accused of that now and it to be honest. I've been accused of a lot of terrible things onset bowl that I can't even talk about but steamrolling rolling. No no no no is. Is he a giving scene partner air. Okay boy really. Do you think you're going to be killed off of this show as the podcast. LISTEN IF I don't cough myself to death then for sure rob's can account but again I think poisoned me so bad to the list Colo- we'll see how this goes. I may kill you on this Episode we cross medical. Police is It's on Netflix. Now ten episode. You can explain one thing that will help the viewer. I I don't care go ahead. Children's Hospital was eleven minutes. This show is thirty minutes thirty. You Better Strap fucking Dick down and get your the Vagina Vagina to all your parts and get ready for thirty minutes. Also is a two loss but I louis say thirty but some of them are like twenty six point forty two but you know what I mean like. Do you get tired of it after eleven minutes in this one. This one as actors. Yeah as memorisers of words. This is a big. I mean this is a big job for you. You guys used to just fuck around on children's hospital so many words. Yeah now to be honest sixteenth president on his day on a stirring in children's hospital a children's hospital was like every episode is kind of standalone. It all reset but then this chart it number one two to three three to every consecutive episode. What you call a Procedural this really well. It's a how would you die. Fighting Pat Ewbal steamrolling you again just describing the show rolling me on a description. We'll let procedural I think of it as like red herring red herring this unsolved it. And that's episode right. You've done your share of those right. How many have you how many? CSI's and she was on city murders. Does she was on cop. Car Cop car. Fire Department guys. UNDERCARRIAGES undercarriages firehoses train train train. That was so good where you'd figure out what the train was every time it was always a train but it was like. Sometimes you're like is it a car. Yeah Yeah I'd be like listen. Door opens doors on trains. Open ever got there somebody in here well very good medical beliefs. I don't Care Braga. We didn't need yeah. We need to care every episode ends in a cliffhanger right so you got to end this conversation on a cliffhanger by stopping right now all right we need to get to our next guest. He's a farmer a please. Welcome to the show George Washington carver. Whatever you WANNA peanut Yeah I do you go thank you just one. ooh peanut it. Okay that's all I can fit my mountain. These are big. Sorry George Washington carver. Welcome to the show. This is Rob Hubel. Oh Hello He's not allowed to talk anymore. This is Erin Hayes peanuts though right. y'All yeah go ahead peanut here you go up Air Delicious all. Yeah I like giving out peanuts. I bet you do George Washington carver. Are you the George Washington. Coal that is that is correct. Now you might be thinking. Wait a minute hunt you did. I was that did cross my mind and I was thinking that to the reality is that I did die. You did But the thing is I haven't died yet. See so you did die but you haven't. I haven't died yet. And that's because of how the time space continuum works. I invented a time machine using peanuts. I can do a lot of things with a wait a minute so you you died in the past but you have before you died in the past you have come to our future feature using a time machine. That's right so you know when you die. I know when I die but it could be at any. You May as well no doubt because that I use to get here and found out. Oh Wow I bet but you may as well live your entire life and until you go back to the past. You're not going to die so it's almost like you can do anything right now. Oh I didn't even you think about like that but that is correct. You could be flawless. You can be hit by a bus. You do anything like you you. You could be the most reckless person on earth. Because you know you're not going to die until Oh you're back in the past that's correct. It would be like one of those things where if I tried to kill myself. It wouldn't happen. Yeah you know what I mean you could probably severely injure yourself. Yes because I believe that seatown. Tam Space is it's the what am I. What am I trying to say? You can't change. What happened what happened happens? You're not creating another reality correct by If if something were to happen to his presidency has always been the only reality. There are no multiple earths. That's correct. Is that why we know you from your scientists right but it's not is for peanuts. See I'm actually I am a scientist. It's called botanists but I'm also a farm and you might know me because I am the most famous black black inventor of all I I mean don't know don't don't lie jury from Black Panther also you bring it up made up. Is that what you're saying you're saying maid Goethe's more famous than me. She did a lot of you guys. They want people were like. Oh sure you did such a great job. No one ever said. You're like a modern day. George Washington carver well and that's why I'm here. That's talk here. That is why I'm here because people are not put enough respect to my name and yes I know I am the only person that people talk about when black history month rolls rolls around. We'll get to that in a second but I remember there's a run. Run DMC lyric George Washington carver. He made the peanut great. Oh reductive when I think about it. Yeah yeah but it's not false. Because I definitely made the peanut greet with describe what you did with a penis for people who did not do request you basically like. You didn't figure out that you could grow peanuts in the ground you took you saw peanuts and you turn them into peanut. The butter is I. I can't remember all of your backstory. Here's the thing I took peanuts and I developed over three hundred uses for the peanut. The three hundred uses one. That's what you think. We'll for food right for sustenance. See now now. This time line is really messed up. Well the only time line according to you I mean really right. So here's the thing in Mac in the time that I was just past versus the president. If that's how you WANNA call it remillard past the future and time traveling has made you superhuman right. No no no migrate. Mind has made me superhuman. It is my great mind that invented the peanut. Tom Machine what are some of the other. I mean obviously time machine would be number two and what are some of the other uses yet but nobody uses it other then you know. What's so crazy? Is that even event peanut butter. That's right Oh no. I didn't invent peanut butter. That's what everyone says you know. It's messed up because I made three hundred benches with the peanut. Peanut butter wasn't what it people need to stop putting respect him on the ED understand the real story but maybe they would if you could describe more than the two uses all right here. We go for them really when I ask you what are some of the other uses. If you were the follow through and let me just get my list. I forget them. So so you list all right sorry. Excuse me long scroll saw all right. Is that on a peanut shell or is that there you go you got number three three right then and Also this peanut inc see the thing is when you grab. I had peanuts in a way you can use that peanut paste and peanut oil peanut butter. What did you say I thought? Shut up Rob Rob's going. I already told you. Peanut butter was already invented. Okay who invented peanut butter because that's some white that guy got what is it. But isn't it interesting. That we credit you with the reversible. It usually lasts. See what's happening. I see what's happening now. You try to do that. Reverse racism bullshit real powers. Racism exists. You just proved it in this time. I know it is funny though. I was very popular with white. People and Black people did not like me for that. Tell tell me about that because you don't hear about a lot in fact you hear about no other scientists you and Sherry. I'm Filipino. Too serious every all right go ahead but but why did you get to be a scientist and no other black people wherever got to be scientists. Yeah that is a great question because even though other black people haven't scientists technically they just not good at it they were as good as it is Abbas. Clearly I mean yes I know Ben. Carson was a brain surgeon but did he come up with three hundred. Different ways to do brain surgery is that true was Ben Carson. Actually a brain surgeon himself. He's black I it's not because he's black black because he seems like a dumb question I I you know what to be fair okay so as you Suri and Ben Carson. Yeah we have the company YOU WANNA keep. Listen I'm above. All of them is C.. It's me and then a large gap large peanut gap. He Will uh-huh actually. I don't know why we would. That is one of the uses. You could use. You can thank you so much. You're you're my friend so you could. We use peanut against you. Robin is clear. The air with some of these. I want to hear some more used to that. All right okay. I created a massage from peanut peanut. Oil It actually it. Actually I actually created that to try to cure polio. And you know what it did it did did actually work and then people try to say no. It wasn't the oil. It was just the massages and I said you cured polio. Will you said Fuck you. Yeah I did look I gotTa admit most of the uses that out of the three hundred you've mentioned are just using oil for different things like you. Create Peanut Oil Union. Eating not existed are like one thing and then you have like a bunch of uses for it. Okay I feel like you're trying to diminish my work and my work has been been very very very important for this great nation of the United States of America. Okay that's why I met so many different precedence. Well I mean you have a time machine would you would you just dip in every four years and basically and I said I'm George Watson Coleman. They said depending on which time that I was in they were like. Oh my God I know Oh you you're famous. You have had the peanut butter and slapped him in the face and I said I did not peanut butter I created three hundred users and peanut butter was one of them and they said Okay and then teleporting reporting into the White House. How do you get past security No actually I've invented a peanut butter has yellow even know that a lot with peanut peanut shells are actually very sharp though they are and if you take them and you mail them together you would limit. I'm in a certain way. You can create a very sharp knife. WHOA okay call it the peanut butter? Oh yeah that's like a play on peanut butter which you don't inch and I don't mention but you're right. It was a play on Saturday so why why travel through time. I'm a little more intr. I don't really give shit about the peanut when and honestly you. You're here now you. I mean everyone's against peanuts. I mean peanut allergies and you can bring them on planes. So what a shame because you guys in your is is being diminished being diminished. And you know what the problem is is corn because you years Hobby Abi for you. I love high fructose Corn Syrup. I just drink gallons of it at home with massaged. Polio Away with uh-huh remember that used high fructose corn syrup to massage way my polio. One nine child they worked fantastic. I wish someone had time traveled and I just I got to tell the truth three on one now they do say tell the truth. The shame the devil. That's what they used to say. Oh that's an old thank. Why are you time traveling? This time traveled to a time where people don't even remember you. They know Suri and they know. WHO's that other one I mentioned? And then Gerson yes sir urkel he ever ever Maybe not tell you this show. I thought things change and this time. Put it clearly you didn't know existed. So why why have you time travel. Well first of all what question because of course I would time travel. Anybody would if they could. Would you time to travel rob if you could just assassinate Some people yeah some people. Yeah Yeah you don't want to say I'll say there's got to cut me off and traffic two days ago and L. Really how it time travel back to the moment. He cut you off or when he was a baby when he was baby smother shoot him messy. Well why. That's you do that your parents are gonNA come in. They don't know what he did in the future. Coming see the baby's brains splattered all over all only procedural. I'm from the future. He cut me off traffic. Yes you have to. I'm from the future around. He come up and traffic in twenty nine thousand nine hundred and I'm going back to the future OSCE later I understand they so oh I used. Why did they had such a wonderful woman to understands I so many of his mental problems problems as well as his physical problems so lovable? Well George Washington carver. I we need to break okay. I don't I don't know that we ever drilled down exactly exactly on your reason for being here but can you stick around other guests to get to. I will definitely stick around I I have some time to travel. I wait I you got it because of the time machine that I was comedian. I'm I'm a peanut okay. Great Yeah all right. 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If you have a true steamrolls rose peanuts to make your oil. That's correct okay. Talk to Jimmy Carter did you. What does that obviously right? Like peanut look honest. I gotta be honest. You made it all happened for me. He he was so a few in his compliments that I was like okay do i. Actually I called Adam Jimmy Jimmy but you you this one time you call George. Yeah because here's the thing. I talked to myself in the mirror. That's like a taxi driver guy. I I never visited whatever time like you're talking about. Oh this is the time line where Robert Deniro played a taxi driver and then they then they turned it into the joker. Interesting Robert Deniro. Okay yeah look we need to get to our next guest He is in the custodial services. Oh we've talked to We had a guest on the name. Mike the Janitor once or twice as I recall But I'm always interested in talking to Someone who has this job please. Welcome to the show is lead. Baby Sleep sleep is Lee. Yeah let's clean toilets about a day a coming in hot. You're given all your details right away. Know who subtle in Seattle and say. Hi this is George Washington carver our trust in you don't trust it wasn't what we own the way he came from Witty's way way he way he never said it. Three hundred being subpoenaed very explicitly sent that I invented the time machine for with the pima. Woah yeah for my personal. See what I'm talking about. You got me sitting right next to us. What thing the nurse I eat nurse? Okay but the thing is did you know that I have a peanut lubrication device. Oil was that made morals. Yeah it is oil but it's very very luscious like no. Don't don't don't don't take my my name steamrolled them. Yeah bigger rolling. This is this is rob Hubel without man. This is Erin Hayes from the medical police have some questions toilets. You did. Mention toilets got earlier in the show was learning how these things work apparently. Yeah apparently you have to lift up a lot lead ed lead so this is the okay cleaned. A lot of toilets you have seen. Is that lines cleaned. Poor people toilets rich people. Don't lift the LID P right there on top. That's what I usually do i. Sometimes I'm like hey flush the toilet go number two if you go boo boo yeah. Hi say if it's yellow. Let it mellow if Brown also let it mellow. No you never let never let him Melo would never let anything. Because this is my thing when Miller was smells ooh The mellow mellow because when it smells it gets in your body when your body. You have now absorbed someone else's duty tron you know it's Ben Carson came up with a degree by have a degree in toiletry. That's wonderful uh-huh can I get because you you said you said you were rapper. I can rap and I can do to a question so you you luscious Lee. Is that a stage name correct. Yeah that's that's my rap name. What's your actual name? Can I ask that Leroy Leroy. They never gave me a last night. What are you talking about? I don't know I woke up one day. And they say hey. Your name is Lee Roy. How old older you goes to sleep until you twelve? I will go ahead of a cold chain. That's it no clothes on your body city got your name is Leroy say Oh snap and this slang lying back then it was natural him about it and say hey are good people only have one name like like okay. uh-huh Bono. You mean bow. No would you say what did I say. I said correct name which was bothering. You said Bono in this timeline long enough to know like Bono signs it Sonny Bono. Oh yes any apple loan. Loan your APP alone you know. I'm just I heard I heard the other day. Awesome the restaurant. Yeah it was good. So what are you doing here. I came here. They say it was a job interview. 'CAUSE y'all needed some custodio help toilets at the moment. This'll that'd be great. I'd love to see how a job interview works here. Yes what are your weaknesses. That's your first question too job applicant. I I mean I realize pretty strong and all the things I rap really well like rapid light on either okay. I feel like when people when people take shits. I don't run away from it. I'm like a finish. Sometimes you get you know. Sometimes you get in the bathroom in a public bathroom and the people get nervous now like I. I don't WanNa make a sale. I'm not Darren are nosy. So you're GONNA go into our restrooms and cheer people on and say finish it finish it and and encourage them to actually finish because this is the thing I realized in the totally business is that people don't feel comfortable taking dumps and puddle. Got So I wanted to. I wanted Kirsch. Hey Shit Iota okay. When you're at work sometimes I'll be a work and I'll be like I'm just GonNa hold this until I get home because this is more of a private don't do that? I could be paid for shitting MHM that's the dream cheerleader branch out. More like a life coach. Would you are you in the stall right outside. You call it express yourself because I'm right outside so I had that cough. I wanted to come to. You only be like you know but I didn't want to do that because we didn't know each other. Yes sure but but if you in the bathroom and you're coughing you're gonNA introduce yourself to everyone who goes into the bathroom. Got To become to Leroy here to help you out because you won't do it unless you know the person i. Yeah because I feel like people won't let loose enlisting I don't see I feel like this is a step that I'm not GonNa say I was going to the restroom. I'm all business once I get it. That's the problem okay. Oh you want to see if you were going to go in right now I would follow you in not too close. Are you going with the person I walked into the bathroom. All right and then I don't pick stolen number three picks on one. That's that's not what you WANNA do with emergency desktop. You must have more space all right. Let's just added I. I don't like to give it names ax over number one twenty nineteen stone own number one all right. Do you change the year every time. The user changes and as more progression happens the saints number. It's twenty twenty right now but but you're still on twenty nine tab machines. He talked about the time she was told. What about what about if I'm not in a stall I'm at the urinal what could question because sometimes it is hard to relax? They're in really let your Komo. What's your strategy? Do you take your pants all the way down to the ankles when you're at the year thank you some lunatics urinal. Usually I do kind of like a dog like where yeah. I'll go down on all fours hike one leg and just try to angle it and try to shoot it up in there. I got the perfect thing for you. When you get down on all fours? I'm make get down with you but I'm a combined next to your face. I'm right next to his face. Whatever you mean peanut? The oil lubrication all right allergic. I don't think I want I'm allergic. I don't think I want to do is say. Hey you can do it. Oh that sounds nice are you. Are you massaging him at all. It's called it's called it. It's caught an ear tender. Whisper sweet nothings it tend to Razz it. Could you dry try whispering some of these tender us on Mike and we'll see if we pretend the P. Bladders Pia. Ah I don't want to pretend I wanna see if it actually trigger something you know they they call it they They have the Brown notes. You know basic sounds that are so low they make you shit. I didn't know about that I'm I'm wondering if maybe these are the yellow if you're if you're sweet nothings or Just humming woman a moment. He's a woman ended up. You know I do have some of that too voices. I'm allergic offer. God Robert That's my full name. Yeah Robert Robert. You can do anything you wanted to. I'm circuit on. Japan is in your hand naivety but us now Hip At us. Oh pee wherever you want this is your toilet. You Compete on the heart failure on the on the sing. Oh yeah yeah we hit about to finish this boy. That was great. I hope you had an experience when you went into a few state where you said you were pissed boy. I blacked out it happens. Everyone has a different experience so so much piss in my pants right now. So that's GonNa the happen if anyone who goes into our bathroom they're going to be all over the place and they're going to call themselves pissed. Boys pistol is option. Leslie we need to take a break but as we're going out. Do you want to give one of your best wraps. I thought you'd never ask mistake. Kushtia poppin coming out February twenty twenty any catch it. was that the rap no chatter drop. That's when people do what people do. Stay absolute the favorite my favorite rap lyrics. Can I hear more in the headphones. See but that's just my turn up that's not my that's not my talk okay. So our drop over I just I just talk. I'm so hollow fire of right here. We GO PEOPLE WANNA be shit. Shit is nasty and dirty. Ib She didn't know day shift. Hillary you say what that mean. I Essay I don't know I gotTa say is I'm not even about to go interesting all your backstory but felt like you really loved. You gotTa have a rap but you gotta rap rap persona you know like we know you know the the fact that you did wake up at the twelve years of living on the earth and realize is you had no idea where you came from a who you are has allowed your your wants and your desires to be very very minneapolis all rapids have a persona Zona. Some some. I mean you just locally game. I'm in the game away. Twelve years mentally younger than that when people usually stay in the game the referring to drugs. I'm in the rap gay. Okay maybe just a sad little boy you need the last name. That's your so understand. Nice thank you my last name. Leroy Hayes it sounds way are you. Are you offering to give him your lessons that you wouldn't have never last name name anymore. I'm a mother and that's what we do liaise. Oh you that's not the offer. She wants you to go. Buy Your Full Christian Name Leroy. Hey what's so no deal so if I sign this Dan in triplicate. I'm a notary public. I mean I would like to have a last name I would sign that here. Use My the George to- chew. I don't believe that Suri. You wouldn't see Suri forcing her inventions on people like the way you do Let's see she's very automatically signs. Is it for me. But I'm assigned right now. Thank you all right. So last night I exit last name which means I am like a rap star probably lovely maybe works right one. Name your like pink. Yeah look we need to take a break but When we come back we have someone from the C. B. The AA CBS? which is very incredible to have someone from that organization that is We'll find out after the break. We will be right back with Leroy Hayes George Washington carver bowl all and Aaron. We'll be right back with more being big. Okay check this out. 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Hey right yes in many more areas. You're saying hey hey hey. Hey Hey what do you think about bilk. Okay I know we talk about George Washington carver. You've you've seen him through the all through the years no. I haven't visited every single time line. I skipped the time time line. You just talking about ears. Isn't that what everybody calls years time latte really I played tablet goes different weeks. All right we also have Leroy Hayes formerly known own Africa as Leslie Leslie. That's that's my stage name no not anymore. You're Leroy Hayes now but we need to get to our next guest. He is a a he's either the head or member of I can't recall these. CAA CB please welcome. Marcus Tanner thank you so much for having me here I am a member of the CBW as C. B.. Remember I have not the president. I am not the founder. I am a member as we all know the CBW also coming in so hot is to relax for a minute. Say hello to everybody. I'm sorry hello everybody how how Ya doing he has A. Here's some of the nicer recently as you know what I mean like just relax into this. It is lovely to be here. I'm saying I was listening to some of the playback and they have been a lot of triggers for the CBW WCBS spoken throughout the last hour. Or so no. I'm not familiar with the coalition of black actors against Chadwick Bozeman. Now I got what a joy this what. What is your beef with champion? Say a fantastic actor thanking place so many parts he can play so many parts. Do we have to play all the parts now. I see what you're doing now. The play all the parts and saying these are the triggers. We were talking about earlier so you know that was very clear correct sitting here with a prominent historical black figures as much which is I wouldn't expect to walk into that. No no but he has the time machine. Yes yes yes. Wow I mean goodness gracious. I am an historical Black Megan up. You're like most people are recognizing it thank you. Yes just so you know is one of the few roles left ASPIRA. Black Actors to play is George Watson covered search everyone else. Are you kidding me. A movie made about zinc livid not even not even a development deal risk that make any sense three hundred inventions peanuts. I gotTa admit if there was a film about you what the time she was really. You're only interested in in all the peanut stuff. I would jettison the time machine not even tell anybody I know this is the first time in evens are hearing about it but I tell you it's the only movie worthy thing ahead write a screenplay you hate to say Arundhati -fensive to to the Union. I'm sorry this yet. So it's a union. What does the work that you do? We you know we coach we we we coach young black actors and and and try and train them how to how to read this is like acting lessons acting school. It's an acting school holiday. It sounds like scientology just an acting teacher. This sounds like a scam Dan. This is the quickest. I've gone from someone giving their details to noticing. It's a scam on this show. I mean you know. I've gotten close have auditioned for a thing or two. Yeah so I auditioned for twenty one bridges for the main part. In addition for for Chadwick part was what was his name. He was the cat. Whatever that's the most bridges that have ever been in a movie? The thought different strokes have bridges. Y- Chris Bridges Chris. Oh Yeah. There's ludicrous pop up at the end of that. You can't do this without me. No he does. Not and that is it's offensive because you count the bridge when you look at the movie You Count The bridges and you get get to around your confused counting movie. Oh Yeah but you know. He's not he's not in that he he does not appear in twenty. Oh Yeah what are you got Leslie. I'm sorry twelve toilets. Twelve twelve toilets. It hits is a musical movie okay. We haven't had a black musical. Yeah musical there's never been a black musical. I mean you think there's odd there's some they do sing at the beginning on on the ship. You know there's There's a Ain't too proud to beg. What's the name of that movie that you are part of a union? You know. He's a he's a day and not the head of this. You just have members now. There's ever organized protests. Do you ever. We goes a movie set where he's shooting. The we have tried. It is very hard to get into. Somebody's these studios. You gotTa have a mission to be there film studio for medical noise. You GotTa have permission to you. have to ask permission every day on the set. Yes they say. Permission the of and I say rump Quadri Okay so yes go to I. I have since been banned from a lot. Uh of from a ladder studios because of my work. What do you do? Yeah so we do. So what was banned. Were the way in which we protest Chadwick Bozeman. Okay as we go out to the studios and we get a bunch of Bose Stereo Systems. Yeah Yeah we get a bunch of bose because his name is both so we go to to go to the studios and I we try to get and so we show our ideas and we say our names we wait. No sit the lead her to the plan because they're not they're not going to achieve. What if we could get inside and close if you were to say like? This is a distraction while some of the other of US climb over the wall. But you guys just en masse so we try to we try to because we want to go through the proper channels. Okay it's hard to get us up off the ground costume. Ask Your question. Yes what if there was a movie bio pic about Chadwick Bozeman. Do you think he would claim self. I would probably do that. That That bullshit that they do where they animate the person the same James Dean so you know. When he's on his deathbed they're going to be like we never made a movie about you? We have to paint. We're GONNA have to young younger and they're going to do that for you know they should use my peanut paint because it's the peanut paint. Does it work through technology does it is it can be computer. TRAE has has it like a jury situation where suddenly like you put it through the trigger. Scott here's the thing it's better because it's like old school makeup makeup and you don't have to pay all of those computer people because there were no computers paying. The people is not the issue we need to look it will. It's it's made a peanuts you blessed to get to the heart of this Chadwick Bozeman problem. What if you used a George Washington carver's time machine and time travel back and smothered him shot him to death in. I wasn't gonNA say that. Oh well I would say you show up to the audition right before him so you go first and get the part and you act exactly like the way you know. He acts in the mood every acting teen choice. Every inflection memorized daddy that FAM- go back in time. What would I will put together a memo and our present this to my fellow brothers and sisters do time machine fucking nerve right over here? You just have to go to the Prophet. This is why you're never gonNA make it. I think this is a great idea. How long have you want to be an actor? Oh you know since since the beginning Eh inning of my time okay off the from the first twelve years are also a part of this so the first twelve years you know I was looking up and I saw all kinds of people who twelve years a slave twelve years a lot lot on this show that I was asleep. I was born into slavery. No you were real fast. Everything has been real facts but that is also we affect things you picked. Is that role that is wrong. You are trivializing way were you. Were you picking peanuts and give you ideas or did you and picking okay. Why are you laughing man that no listen? I've triggered. I've learn how to take my triggers and turn them into humid so that I do not cry in front of. That's great that's cool. That's cool question. Marcus what are you Eddie. Murphy played all the parts on his movies too. He does play all the parts on his own movies and you know his tantric Bozeman. You think is playing parts and other people who've yeah see that's the difference. The difference is in the movie is just movement. He Murphy creates roles for himself to play various. The film orbits. She was yes except was nervous. The woman open number was a woman do but he was a lover. Healy he the nurse. Who was the guy was in Norbert? Oh that's right. Why did we talk about that on the first episode? Because it didn't come up at movies where people I'll have to play their own twin. Yes because that could be a role for another actor. Here's the thing. There are a lot of twin actors. There's Matthew Lawrence and is our brothers and they should be playing the twin roles but instead were just like you know getting one guy suddenly play double duty do they. Get to paychecks paychecks. I doubt it. They probably do not and see the becoming evermore. Frustrated even Imagine I'm imagining now tabloid Bozeman in a in a film where he has has to play a twin chattering gran bozeman featuring Chadwick Bozeman. One of them should be in a fat suit yeah chattering Bozeman and his his fat suit. That would give him right now. I I would say twenty bridge is a classic and I love that movie title. Ask Your all hat and no cattle. You got a nut up here. One of my name again. Okay carver. Jersey Washington goes the very excited when I said nut just writing that down because I gave you an idea for another dimension. Aaron what were you saying. I was GONNA say isn't one of the words in your acronym an egg against the first thing. You would be complement him. Yes yes but again. You're maybe I am a coward uh-huh maybe I am but I just know that there is a world where where any black actor can play any role uh-huh and it doesn't have to keep going to the same one so that's your main beef is that he's getting all the roles getting for every movie that he's ever been single one. It was some of your dialogue. Can you we want to see how you do it as I will show you some a little bit of A. This is a little bit of Black Panther. I love it. It's a real good. A real fake panther rebuttal that might live dial with the Senate deleted scene. No no it's just amazing that so you seem to move back on the Black Panther you remind me more like a earth. A Kit woman on uh-huh yes earth. A KID IS A. She is the goat if she was the best and every time line yes did he ever hit that peanut from negative. He didn't he didn't you. You know what was your feedback. After you did that out. Dish George say feedback peanuts. I was getting ready wanting more peanut. I'm sorry everybody should eat Pinos everyday though continue well they did. They told me they were like you felt a little bit more. Like a Kitty Cat Panther. Yeah actually felt that you play in the Kitty cat. You've got to get enough back. That was a good that is exactly. That was the only way to go away slower. If you play in a kitty cat you got to get in bat like a baton off. Rhyme asks almost back to rapper classified dream to be a top ten. Say Good Luck. Yeah you could travel to the future and find out if he does. Yeah just go right ahead right now. Oh it looks like a penis always back isn't that. Oh Hey how come on. Come on the grammy. How famous is he? At how many grams I'm bigoted Kendrick right to be honest. Would I just saw in. The future was so horrific what happened. How long were you go? I just jumped sixty years in the future. Okay Yeah but how long were you gone in in your own day because you have white hair now and you look like the wizard from Suzanne A for thirteen years. Wow during this oh were you doing immediately when our grabbed sixty years in the future so you were in the year twenty eighty the earth is still here. The Earth Earth is here but doesn't exist. No no it certainly does about it. Do you see the thing. Anarchy has is rain in sixty years from now. It is the purge. That's exactly right. We've seen the purge I have seen the purge. May She's a time traveler traveler of course things except for things from the eighties. Only you've seen most things. How old are you along? No no he. He pauses time watches. The movie star also created a peanut oil cream. That I believe is a So-so also free you know oil all you did was create oils anyway. What hap- what happens to Leslie You did not make rapper. Become a prison terms of life. You die very very soon very soon from today. it is. It isn't a tragic way so much so I was able to read about it in the archives. Is that by the way the reason I was gone for thirteen years. It took me a long time to get to the archives books. This is a fantastic story. Is Loath stores. The fact that you can time travel when you've seen so much this is Bozeman. Were no should make a movie. Yeah I just got an alert from variety. Heidi that's in development movies that also in development God is all about the archives in the future. I just I just thought that Medecin So we all get. We didn't know we don't know how are you going to. We don't are. We not allowed to find out how I'm not de that's my new year's resolution with that. I'm not dead. It's it was weird. Yeah Yeah I was my resolution but in this field many many other are the people but a lot of them were cannibals. Oh okay but the peanuts and they were not having them but you just assumed they were cannibals. Then I saw awesome eating other human beings. I didn't come on now all right so we didn't have sex for the future. Did we wait a minute. Okay we didn't you didn't didn't happen. Okay well I'm so sorry that you're GonNa die. Does he died during the episode or after after the say soon yes I mean. It's a couple of years funeral. Everybody's everybody in his room. I hear you look very young so I I feel like a few years from now is pretty suit is that in the archives. who goes is to someone's funeral? No absolutely why would it be read obituaries. Did you see who attended. What is your stupid fucking because Roy so when important to chat with Bozeman is going to play my life no no no no? We're told he's going one of the cannibals it's all right here's Larry H.. Agreeing for the CWC. They are. You know I will be writing. Get another another memo about this. The complete disregard for the personal feeling. Do you want to have my first name Aaron at all I'm a mother. This says this was understanding. What what were they put on the call sheet for medical police? You could be a simple like you can be Aaron Tanner I would. I would be honored Aaron with this is incredible. It'd be on it are I just signed this triplicate. There we go all right. Wow assigned one earlier okay. This is incredible so look we're running out of time on the show. We only have one final feature and that is of course a little something called plugs. I'm looking for this. Uh Won't on a ooh that was neutral Plug Hotel L. Bhai lost and found all right Rob Hubel and artist formerly known. uh-huh maybe I'd just like. Hey An inhale with that to rob you blind. What are you plugging your medical medical police? Netflix skull just dropped. It just came out ten episodes on net. Flip it on and get ready to strap your Dick down. Parts have been popular binding. They're there there'd be flaps is in a slaps if flat ups as straps wraps so it gets trapped wraps. That's a great wraps if it wraps or flaps guest your straps right okay medical police George Washington carver. What are you Plug in here. I watched a lot of things of course travel time except for the eighty s and there was a show that came out. I believe a a month ago on Netflix. As well it was called Astronomy Club. Sketch you in. I liked it very much. Well of course everyone at this point been out a month in everyone who has been rhapsodised. Today's calling it the first Great Sketch Show of the twenty twenties. Yes even though came in the twenty tense tens has everybody's new decade gone timelines. Alright well founded on the plug. You're a bunch the people will come in and we'll get written about in the archives. That's what I'm talking all right. Leroy Hayes what are you plug There's this podcast called black. Made can't jump in Hollywood interesting. Yes it's like these these three handsome strapping young. Like man named review. Move Sir yes. They're fully so flaps them slaps so they strap it down. Strap it down mighty shopping. All the way in perceptible penises. Is that what you're saying. I mean I don't like to say the room was true but no bulges. You made podcast from peanuts. It's called cut cat okay. Does the whole thing podcast so a black man black men case. Jump jump in Hollywood. And it's a podcast. It's out right now right now you can check it out at tunes and spotify. Those guys are funny you should. You should do to start off your a new decade right. Yeah wonderful sense and Aaron Tanner. Where are you plugging? cosign astronomy club on Netflix. And also so black men can't jump in Hollywood it is these are both staples at the CWC. Jerry Grossman nowhere to be. Either he's on episode but also so the WCBS we are doing a community production of Estrada on January twenty eighth at seven forty five pm and we're getting the actors for this. Do they have to sign up for your classes and pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes it is it is. It is for the for the featured roles of course Are being being performed by the members of the CBW seen we disagree on a lot of money and be like a background. Extra say say featured extra grimace Rata Estrada. Yes wow featured extras you get the higher up on the call sheet. You'RE GONNA get tips so am I invented. Maybe Saudi but USA a true skin. I don't know what you're talking about and make sure to keep following me because I may be dying soon so please if you read about my death come to a few roles mix tape. You're gonNA play your mixed that's my one requests. Did you put it in a will or anything right right now as we speak right three so let's pits peanuts. All right I wanNA plug you know. I really don't have anything other within the between two ferns movie. That's still on Netflix. Look if you're going to be spending a lot of time watching medical police in astronomy club just End The day by watching between two FERNS. All right let's close it the plug bag bag you start with a see when you close Be Within you up this J that horatio comes in and he just says do today they do a fantastic again. Ah Ah pay up the bag. Everybody off the keeping bugging goal Minute up all right now. I'm getting used to it. I hope Maybe someone out there as remixing maybe leroy. Hey that's my last track before I kick the can okay. Well if you just never do that track then you'll live for a long time just like works. No because you have the information but you're just set it pretty sure you're going to be poisoned poisoned by judge. George Washington carver feeling worse than those place. Wayne George Washington carver. You never said that. Are you the guy who kills him. Listen don't but high said it was a very terrible tragic accident. Is there a water skiing accident. Common doesn't kill me either. Yeah he's he doesn't even get close Well guys I wanNA thank you so much for being on the show rob and pleasure so great seeing is for having rob our second oldest guest because obviously Tomlin got top billing and it was number one to be here today. I think he was. Yeah unfortunately really And it's always great to see you. Thanks for having going forward. It's been a tricky day because I don't know how to introduce myself and conversations now. What about names because I do have three three watched it and carbon? Which one do you want him? I guess I'll take carver because it's like some people talk George Washington George Washington carver. Oh my gosh thank all right thanks. Oh Rob Uber and Carver George Washington and Leroy Hayes and Aaron. Tanner have you guys on the show. Thank you and You know there's nothing else to say except we'll see you next time right. Can we all agree. We'll see next next. We'll see your next all right. We'll see next time. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 342-The BIG Barleywine Show

The Brit and Yankee Craft Beer Pubcast

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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 342-The BIG Barleywine Show

"Honey open debt so we didn't get the sound of opening the CAN. So how does the Cango sh beautiful thank you boys. Let's sold together one more time award important in Yankee pup studios now. The Big Yankee Craft Beer Bubka Armenia. The point being pulled Bieber again in the game. JC Won't kick jagged contract. Take it away that you are putting that yes everybody. Welcome to another Briton Yankee hub. Kost this is Phil Clarke debris we are recording in rather a voluminous luminous area. So if you get any feedback oh echo or anything like that is because we live in a hurry while we're live when we record it. But when you lear. It's recorded now. We're dead wood that my friends is the original Yankee Mr Mike Lingo Lingo fellow with me. Welcome Mike filled a damn. Yes all back from Wisconsin. Oh okay well. It's almost as bad. It's not so bad. You just gotTa pay cheese Kurds to get out of Wisconsin really okay. What's the tax these days about a bank and a half a bag and a half? Yeah well I've been in the bag and a half for a while anyway. It's an action packed. PODCAST here today We have let's see hang on on account one two three four and a half brewers and I say the half because I'm going to. He's he doesn't have a microphone. But we're river lands brewing company here in Saint Charles might second guest. Host is with us first brewer of the evening. Mr Ken mcmullen Goody Hall. Ken Wayne is it evening. It is says yes binders notice man. We've been here all day right. Yes we have been here all day and I'll tell you who we've been with and that's as second bro. WHO's GONNA share your microphone? He's going to have to lean across you. Which is going to be interesting? Mr Eric Brumwell twelve from river land. And I'll be nice and cozy over here. Good evening good evening everybody. Thank you very much eric for hosting this. Get together of Ne'er Eh Wells. I should include before I go to the other two guys the Hof and I I made that with a Jew insincerity day. Mark is over there Dave you what your role is at the very speak up. You don't have a might do a lot of things here but it's just a excellent thing. Okay they ever got a system brew Dave Amol. Welcome Dave Fell Phil. Let me go good. And it was good for us because Spurs were playing this afternoon eurospace supporter and they one two one two one. That's a that's a good victory so The other two bruise that we have with us. And I'M GONNA go left to right Alphabetically by height I'm going to the what the last in first out we're going to do and you'll understand why we have the these Folks here once we get into the show because it's the Bali wine show from from migrate. BRING DOWN IN joliet Mr Daniel Rosenberg now. The real questions. Are you gonNa edit that so that the gap is longer her or shorts adequate sound. I'm going to say mind the gap house I'd ever go and then last but not least and both of you guys of come quite a way up here into Saint Charles but I think Steve You must have come the furthest right because with me is Steve Kemp from Evil Evoke Crete Eagle Creek brewing evil hosmer howdy fellers and the reason Steve is with this because in last year's show which was actually show three hundred which we record a back beginning of February overhaul vine line and there was a chapel was with us at the time. I don't know if he's GonNa be on a make if he does. He hasn't got a seat so to back. But the one that we selected as being a favorite. Was your Bali wine which is cold GRANDPA's big ASS. Barley wine and English style. Barley wine an English style Bali wine and this Bali wind show is particularly Appropriate because today Eric and Ken Myself Ralph Well Yeah Three of US baffled. BF and. Why is that the pitcher? I go back and cut this out right so offer finished Gordon read all four of us. Bottled a wonderful Bali wine. That is going to be released the day that we released this podcast. which will be Friday? What's the date today Twenty thousand Wednesday. It's Wednesday is Wednesday. The march coach. No February twenty-second today. Don't lean insomuch blow Andropov Javan. They have an outside voice. Just right there Steve Futterman what the Hell's like. Oh yeah so. We bought a wonderful Bali. Wine in English. Bali wine called wicked googly. And you'll be able to come out to riverislands. Pick that up there ballgame price bottles but you'll have to come to find out what it is We only have five hundred of him and I have to say this right now that there is one bottle which has been signed by all the people who are battling including Dave and then we put our initials on it. And if you get that bottle you get it free. How about that? That's a deal man right there. That's right we're going to have to. Oh yes we are going to have a God i. There's so much remember I mean how do these things you can I at River Islands I the revelance and them at a hotline and I should say that can can is Kennedy's been very help. I mean when we do a collaboration wondering how collaborations actually went and basically these two guys got together on the recipes and then Eric did most of the work because it's his equipment but Ken comes along and he goes. I didn't do much but I know what he's doing. And I'm asking all these questions and it's like a heady -cation for me but at least I felt like I was doing something when I was putting the cleaning the bottles and ever in the dave was put the caps on and Eric was filling with beer. I should say and and then you and I came. We were sanitizing the bottles and putting them into putting them into the cases. Oh my God anyway. So today is show three forty two. I'll Bali wine shower annual Bali. Wine show. We have an absolute wonderful station of Bali winds for you and we're also hopefully going to get a whole bunch of Brewer told Steve. Would you please open your first one. which is going to be GRANDPA'S Z's these big ass while you're doing that can you tell us the store? Can you do two things at once white walk. And he's going to okay. Okay so tell us. The story of GRANDPA Z's big so I don't know about as big as but it's a big ass and he GRANDPA's Oh GRANDPA's big. His name is big new Banovic. He's a home brewer. Okay longtime home. Brewer I've got one of those crappy promotional openers. Okay and I should I should explain. He has blues Pooch on. It's all commonly known as wax which is the curse of many a bottle opening. Okay anyway He sorry he what he burs assault suburbia that Charlie Memorial homebrew competition. Best of show with a seven year. Old bottle of this beer of this recipe so this is his recipe. It has not been in. Would it is Straight up English barley wine Not Barely edged. The primary base mall was Mira Satar fact all of the Malt in the beer was British Except for the Malt extract. There's some all takes to Busey the the alcohol on it Ab All East Kent Golding hops was a three hour boil and we did a decoction on it as well to To bring out the profile quite a complex beer and no no what flavor no would flavor. Why should they be well? The trend nowadays is everything is a very early age and this was not well. I should say that we could googly is not barrel aged either nicer nicely fresh and I think I think this is it is oh some of it will be right. Yeah okay that's good barrel right. Okay okay cool as we speak. So what does the on this because this is going to be quite a high alcohol. Believe it's the Levin Levin eleven percent This one is a year almost a little over a year old It's probably developing developing some of the Sherry notes with getting some of the age on it One of the styles of beer that got me to be at home back in the eighties where English barley wines. Just because they were there was nothing else like that and it was hard to find if nothing else they wanted. You had to make it yourself. Yeah well I'm GonNa Randomly Oskar somebody an opinion about somebody else is bill and I think we should start with Eric because Eric This is about well from the selection. We have and as we go down we. We've got beers from Idaho from Wisconsin and Illinois. So this is about the closest to weaken googly. So Oh Eric. That was the first attempt at doing a Bali wine. We think it turned out. Great what comment on Steve's I think Steve the next on the job I agree. And you get those kind of Sherry notes like you said those kind of sedated flavors you kind of want in a beer like sir starting to set in a kind of compliments like caramelized sugar sort of flavors probably that it had more fresh It actually reminds me a little bit of the beer that we brood which hopefully means our first crack at the style of went went well because this is a really good barley wine I like this a lot Nice and complex without meeting any barrel aged each to it. It's it's a great beer on its own. Thank you so by the way I have to apologize to everybody. We are doing this recording plastic table and when people put their blouses down it makes a big thump. I don't know if that's GONNA come out on the show. But so now Bali wines typically a beer that people people embroiderers have hanging around for a while because people will have one once in a while and a good example is when when we went down to rigs brewing company and he said I have a volley wide on tap all year because in doesn't sell that well but when we tasted it it was really really good. Now this has got dot collartoo it Whereas The rigs one was more light line during college lighter in color. So what's the difference. What what makes is it? The color of the Bali because I think you added some an amber malt we all use a probably forty lava bond crystal mall so that's kind of like the medium crystal flavor or Color Range we also used an AMMO. which is kind of a right right around that same color? We also use Marissa and ours which is a a little bit of a higher kiln baseball than your standard like hills near or something so all those things combined with a three hour boil and in a couple of things that adds color to the beer. So you might have had something like a blonde barley wine or something like that so I guess what I'm GonNa do is is is just let everybody consider the beer and at the end of it. Have you come back black and tell us what you'll favor is. When I say favorite I I've got a feeling all these beers are going to be pretty damn good but you know someone's going to age out somebody somebody else and that was that? Was You last year. Steve and you know you aged everybody else so you put me I this year. This yes you can forget about it now. Funny Gatt what about it. No just injured myself trying to get through the WAX holy cow. He's bleeding folks. Go Man I tell you what they're up. Who knows who knows medical the mouth go ahead? Sorry that Oh boy All right we're back with the volume number two and to do the owners on this and hopefully not to cause himself an injury. Mrs Dan Rosenberg Dan. This is an experiment because when we were down the back in February I think it was purchased a Crowley of the beer which is called what it's called Our Lady of blessed acceleration and that is a note to note to the Blues Brothers. So we're down in Joliet Illinois and if you come down there you'll see blues brother's stuff all over town it's on murals there's There's an ice cream shop on fifty three. That's got a couple of statues up on the roof of them dancing. Unlike its you know the town totally embraces all the all the crazy stuff that happened. Yeah we're actually keep an eye out there doing a beer fest. I believe it's coming up in August and the old prison where the opening shots of that movie took place so come check it out. Minutes go ahead on crack open. Give us a sound effect view oatmeal corral because if this sucker explodes that was a good sound I like that. There's some men minor exploding. Yeah so we. We did an experiment here where we wanted to see whether or not Crowley would keep Avia Good right for for a year which it really is Tell us about this beer. What's in it? Yeah so so barely edged barley wine agent variety of whiskey barrels but the way the whole project kind of came about is It was a collaboration between us and the homebrew club. That mean Ken both came out of It's called a Pale. The plainfield Ale and lager enthusiast. They reached out to me that they had come across a barrel and really wanted to do a barrel. Aged project gave me a date that they were picking it up. I we got together together on the recipe so brown barley wine I brought the unbear- or the unfitted version of it and we can try that in a bit. But this version has cranberries employees in it kind of get the reason. I made that decision kind of getting back to what you said earlier. Barley wines tend to really stick around rounded burris. They're a tough sell so we kind of wanted to give it a little extra cash. It's already a barely barley wine but we figured let's get shot and add some fruit to it and see what happens barley. They went already. Has Those Kinda deep caramel notes to it. So just playing around with fruits and looking at what was available at the time like plums. Were in season and I've never had a beer with plums uh-huh in it so just wanted to give it a shot. What was the other cranberries cranberries give it a little odd gives it that little bit of tartness little zing and again another flavor that plays really well with those caramel notes that are already in there what's Ab on this one? That's eleven point four percents. Oh Yeah so we've got like half a gloss. Oh here we're being very conservative with that pause and I should say that we're not either so We we ought conservative. Would it be of hip. Everybody should take Bali winds very seriously because they are high alcohol and they do sneak up on you. Ken What do you think of this one a little bit of cloudiness actual which probably spruyt. Yeah it's just the fruit like I said we'll open the one that does not fruit in it. That one's is crystal clear when I added the fruit to it Did a bunch of research and nothing said anything about how many pectins were in those cranberries. So we didn't add any against enzyme like we'd normally add came out cloudy but the flavors still fantastic so we just kind of went with it so adding fruit to be is something that I know. Eric you know about because you make a range of beers one which you like lingo acid rainbow in all its different from varieties and there's a bunch of What have you you know when you add fruit to be one of the things you need to be aware of in order for go to a go sour? Go over sugary Shit that can happen when you know it all depends what you're trying to get the fruit with our acid rainbow series we had a post fermentation. So the thing to be aware of that is keeping cold drinking it fresh That's the reason we don't can that here because it can turn into a package bomb. If you're not careful are added prism series we at that during fermentation usually a few days ends of the East is still active That shelf stable. No no worries about every from any anything like that and then as far as you know. Make sure. There's no infections or anything something like that. It's not just about your process. Proper sanitation We use a lot of aseptic puree. So we don't have to worry about wild Easter contaminants being in there Whereas if if you're using whole fruits that Kinda can become a concern And as far as you know Texans and then things like that go Most of ours. That we we fruit are Berliners or go says heavy heavy amounts of wheat and those anyways so generally. We're not too concerned with with clarity in our fruited sours. Yeah the the big trend right now is the milkshake. Ip as and those are meant to be hazy anyway so again same thing. We don't worry about Pickton's when we're doing something like that. Something like this would have liked to have clarified but by the time it was you know we we would have needed to added that peptic enzyme it was just too late. Anyway bio fine took out a little bit which is You know another clarifying agent that we use his brewers but you know it's it's never going to get one hundred percent unless we had way too much and then we risk ruining the beer so a tactic enzyme is something that makes it clearer era. Yeah so The thing that's adding the haste of this particular beer And you know it's Kinda common in milkshake as a New England. Ip As to is the pectins from the fruit fruit that are added as it cools down it just kind of ads. That cloudy Haze too It's very common in winemaking as well. But there's an enzyme that's been develops called again. I mean finding your local homebrew shop. You add it either just right when you add your fruit and it'll help break down those pectins and you know eliminate the hayes stay bosses I do have to say you asked me about dozen. All I got was that it. It's cloudy and launched a whole discussion. I gotta tell Elliott this for for being I think you said it's two years old in a crowder. Well I'm going to assume that this is your one new brewed in two thousand eighteen. Because I got it in February glory. Twenty nine thousand nine and you'll bring out the twenty nine thousand nine one now right no. That's the one from last year's well okay. You know what was so. You don't have it on TAT now. Not still the same batch. Oh it is so actually. We pulled it off tap for a little bit during the summer. Just 'cause nobody's drinking a barley wine and you know when it's ninety eight degrees out but it's it's to me it's crazy but we We kicked back on during the the colder months. It's you told us very well and it tasted that's cool the acrylic glass out. Yeah so I think that's a big thumbs up for not only the the fact that I thought it was gonna be okay because what can happen to it. I mean okay if it's if it's IFA or something like that with hopes and you're gonNA lose the hawks right that's going away while imagine a bartenders filling us your when your packaging beer money. Your big focuses is to keep oxygen out of it so you have a bartenders filling it from a tap. It's it's not very easy to keep this very unlikely. They're going to keep oxygen out very well if you purchase you to right before you fill. Can you really only doing so much. But you know thankfully the barley wine style that I think holds up To that kind of packaging. Where if you put hazy? CIP A drink at a year later. It's going to be a pretty different story so do you. Guys C O. Two into Crowley's I think you got it right at river land so a can have crawlers. You don't have crowds okay. That's right you'RE GONNA HAL. I'm on a reminds me. I can't seem we're going to start doing okay. Is there burgeon. I got like three of your house. I gotta get back to you Dan. Do you have absolutely perjured. Okay and then Steve You don't you don't get behind the bothered you know. They don't allow me to. We don't have we don't have a crawler machine. We still do the old fashioned crawler. But I believe we're getting a cancer where at some point to probably just for sixteen ounce cans dollars are that's fine. I you know to be quite honest. I like a sixteen ounce can and will the study too right right. Yeah and I like these can sizes because it gives me an option of having two for one big growl would be sixty four ounces Any oaten that sucker. You've got to drink really with a day or two. You know unless I'm missing something. But I've never had even speak break-up Dave Day Yeah Push we've actually got a for our sales rep we've got things called a UK It's essentially got like a little paintball impulse to canister in it So it's a growl or that's got a tap on it that will last as long as you've got pressure in that little co two canister again we. We bought that for our sales reps in around your samples at the stuff that we don't package. But yeah for gralow if you open it. You're toast. That's why we made the decision to go with With the crawlers whereas when we want people to get the breast impression with the best impression of that beer impression or the impression. That's for the milk. Stout you put in the crawler makes dense on the Gaza. We want people to get the best impression of the beer and the best way is to drink fresh so we kind of eliminate the option of thrown a cap back on it. It's you know we'll still if you bring in a row or our we'll still fill it. It's just for the same price. Price will give you a crawler or two dollars so you might as well get the crawler. It's the better option. It keeps the beer fresher like as as we demonstrated here this this beer fresh for almost a year now. I think we're just a month short of it so you got that. UK thing and you you and it works really well and had growlers that I I have had it very fresh for over a week and would stop that. I wanted to pro-life at all instead of drinking it. All at Johnson then being slashed nappy able to have dinner with folks but no it works real well and I had the same. I got that for my birthday. My lovely wife gave it to me. Use It from time to time. It's really very handy. Not not to just advertise for them. There's other companies that make similar things. Although cakes are available. Yeah a a you know. There's add ons to growlers people. Jerry rig drilling holes into a growl or captures. There's plenty of options for it but at the end of the day like howlers. Pretty perfect decor well. I would like to say that it took me probably thirty seconds or more of sniffing this be because the aroma rove it was absolutely delicious. And if I like the aroma then I'll sit there and enjoy that before a game to the very very nice very very tight very nice. Yeah cheers on that one. All right well. I think it's time for us to head out of Illinois away from these guys a little bit and head up into Idaho uh-huh Our Lady of blessed acceleration. Don't fail me now mm-hmm all right When I said we were heading out to Idaho that is we're not literally heading out the door you've got to be over prepared not actually hitting it's been put to shame? Okay so I just want to let the listeners know that they're comparing bottle openers that they have whipped out of the wall wallets. They all know got you got the key to happiness. ooh which is we. Don't want to talk about okay to happiness all right come back to the podcast blaze. He's right. I'm still staring at this bottle over. This thing is a work of art at Slang. That's pretty sweetheart. It's made out of like what that's titanium the tools so so isn't that heavy not really okay. Link is taking a picture this is fascinating fascinating listening for the people. I'm okay. What the hell was I asked Idaho? So we're not literally go rhino. Because obviously that would be out of the budget of Britain Yankee punk guests but my good friend Martin ASCII who used to host this show off the lingo left us. Yeah right now. Yep Yeah Yeah. He's he's he's an from Finland so he has moved up to Boise and now is Consulting with a lot of the birds up there have which I think is about twenty four and growing and one of my favorite breweries is barbarian brewing and they are in Gaden Gabu Garden City. It sounded rather interested in it. They're in Garden City Gone City and they were one of my favorite beers at this year with their elixir of the gods and I tasted some of their other beers because mark is very fruitful with bringing the bottles down and they really good. We have a Barrel aged Bali Wind Donning Bourbon Barrels. It is cold all Sampson is O.. L. Apostrophe pre owned Sampson. And could you open that up please. With one of those fabulous openers if it works works the whole top to poor itself. Or you all Samson is and was apparently a English mastiff. That was a close friend of some of the people that barbarian brewing. And he's snuffed. It up sorry. He passed away and so with the help of their friend. They made a big beer that fit. And I'm reading this off their website fittingly not only pays tribute to a big dog with a big heart. So this is suppose we know nothing about this. Other the fact that it is from These folks Zimbabwe remembering so the first bourbon barrel Bali wine not true. ooh This is. Yours was in above embarrassed. Oh Shits Okay and then by out of state barely thank you so so Who Haven't we get? Can you get your microphone dive. Oh can you just shell get to the microphone. We WanNA include diving. Yeah I've I've forgotten that he was doing. You said he's only a half. Yeah right so what do you recommend missile. May I like the Bourbon. Bourbon barrel adds a little bit of depth. Pretty cut and dry. It's really really really clean. I mean it's pretty straightforward. I would say just really good. I have a speck of something floating again mind. How does this on? Various differ is probably from the others Definitely a lot lighter than the ones that previously less carbonate get get less commonly than the urban in more than the Bourbon. I can a lot of oh coward. It's it's not quite that chewing on a toothpick over OAKTON. It really bright where I like it. It's nine it's there's one one flavor in here that's really cool. It's got like a toasted marshmallow type Vanilla. You Know Vanilla Flavor which I agree. It's not quite as big. It's a little thinner to say. Maybe but I think the bourbon barrel really comes through in the Vanilla from the from the oak but not so much spirit right and according to the ball. This one is eleven point eight so I think that's actually the highest odor and this is all right. Now's lymphoid for eleven point for obvious but it doesn't have the mall field or anything of you know something with high alcohol very smooth very drinkable. And I think you wouldn't guess just by tasting it all it's eleven nine very attenuated beer. That big very I. I think that Aquinas kind of gives it a little bit more of a perceived dryness to kind of drive out. I really dangerously drinkable for that. And I should say the lingo had more pieces in the bottom of his. He's got quite a few so I'm wondering yeah. I know that the bottle so you shoes. So he didn't believe in there that Dan is going to investigate pieces of the bolts barrel. Yeah I'm GonNa going to say that's Char- charcoal for how you can see the little grains in it. That's fair because I had the last four out of that bottle so you get all this food. It was just if you drink. Then you're going to get a Lotta would okay so all. There's still some in Canada. The one big thing on this one is it's got far more at tunnel donal to it. It's a lot more warming gets less balanced. Yeah yeah and it's not so harsh going down though it's not high Hewlett in Burns your throat and stuff like that. It's not hot and finishes actually kind of wounded. Is this GONNA sound. Totally contradictory finishes weirdly dry. And Jack is I just lingering sweet dryness really comes out of Yeah it's a really interesting complex beer. I wouldn't say classic barley wine by any stretch of the imagination but really cool near like I could. I could sit and drink this whole model so these guys have been chips strain or the charcoal. How clean? Ut Steve so these guys have been open since Twenty fifteen when they opened in Garden City and they also now have a downtown taproom. MM so they have expanded They have a bowel room. That houses Movin Ninety Oak Barrels. And I'm going to say they probably got more now because this is that off their website. And there's probably written a while ago And they tend to they tend to focus on classics. Okay so listen to this. We focus on classic styles kettle. Saleh's hazy IPA's west coast IPA's Belgian Ales Doctrine Balti- styles and experimental styles such as ice cream. Three Miles melgen guys at barbarian. You basically make everything right. Okay The beer at GPS was elixir of the gods just fantastic village about barrel aged Belgium Quad with pomegranate. Oh and plum in a port barrel. The barrel was it was the pork barrel. I think just made the difference. It really was the elixir of the gods. I'm hopefully fleet GONNA get a bottle of that so I'll be able to share that you guys soon as I get it and if I don't know I've got it and drunk myself so there you go so so you've brought up marshmallow flavors Walk let's open up a little discussion here about what I think is tended to fade away a little bit now and that is a pastry stoute's perhaps it's ice cream ales as they call them up on their enduring this this oh boy is that maybe you know because some beers you can float ice cream round it and I believe that Pollyanna here in Saint Charles is going to be having A ice cream via evening with kilmer's ice cream which is in Saint Charles so thoughts on that whole side of things. That's that's That's not at all a new idea. back before I was a professional still homering I used to run music music and live events. In one of the things I wound up doing was The first hop the HOP centric leave. The beer is now event. Two brothers roundhouse. When I took that over and one of the things that they had that I was told that they always had it? All events was just an ice cream vendor over in a corner. Doing ice cream floats bearings. It's it's something thing that's been around for a long time. That's it's it's a superfund thing to play around with like you'd never think like an Ip a vanilla ice cream go together but they totally do. milkshake ideas. Yeah exactly I mean we. We do Every month we try to pick out another local business around us that does something totally different different into a pairing with them. So like this coming in February were Wine and cheese up in Plainfield is GONNA do a cheese and beer pairing We've got the next month month. There's a guy opening a cheesecake shoplift. He's he's by James Out by us. We're GONNA do a pairing with his different cheesecakes from thank Ford cheesecakes for from Beers her. Four different cheeses from Donovan. The bagels and of done with donuts Dan's candies candy shop out and Julia. We've done it with like you. Can you people always kinda breath do pairings with wine but you can totally do it with beer. Beer is such a diverse flavor profile from style the style of the style then playing around with pairings tons of fun and with ice cream absolutely. That's something that just absorbs whatever flavor you put. My first job was in southern California that it was Temecula brewing company and OATMEAL stout there. It's actually the same recipe. I'm still brewing at the fantastic oatmeal stout killer but but we put ice cream that beer back then that was one thousand nine hundred nine and the cool thing about it is the alcohol in the beer melts ice cream. You stirred up. It's like a it's like Frappuccino it's it's delicious but we also did shakes it at limestone and added all kinds of things. Thanks to that are chef. was doing killers things with that with Adam liquors into it to to kind of strengthen I mean what Crusade Burger Bar adult shakes out there. I mean it's I think alcohol and shakes is not. It's not what Nouveau Yeah. I mean it's foods I mean. It goes back to as long as people have been doing beer broads. It's it's not a new thing it's not going away. It's you know sometimes your ears there's GonNa be used as an ingredient for something else and that's okay. It's you know just like every whisky maker has to deal with somebody because somebody's GonNa make an old fashioned out of their whiskey that they spend all blood sweat and tears making it's like. Do you want people to just enjoy it for what it is. Yeah but it's okay if someone wants us in something else whatever happened to blood sweat and cheese anybody everybody not they forget. Eric do you guys. Is You know what I think Eric. Anything along along. Those lines We haven't been open to line to play with a play with those things. The only thing I will say we were one of the very first fest we did and we were still still technically considered home. Brewers at the time We had the good fortune to be stuck next to a the ice cream vendor at the fest and we were pouring are I Chris. Catch the day Coffee Maple Vanilla Stout and we thought this would make a kick ass float so While we haven't done anything along those lines here we We have experienced firsthand hand with ice cream in our pastries doubt It worked well one of the other things that barbarian brewing is doing is a candy Goza series. I'm not quite certain what that might be. But any thoughts on what Candi goes on my guess like tossing Sour Patch. Kids and a beer jolly ranchers. I could see that probably maybe even something like that. Candy Porter as a homer wants And got some of those hard linger style. Candies or Hound liquorice. I don't know there were some weird flavored candies that my father when I was a kid that we're comeback. I'm bugs when I was a homebrew. I did a strawberry half of ice and all the runoff strawberries. But really I use those robbery candies. Your Grandma Eisner us just because I wanted to try it and see if anyone picked out the difference like strawberries. I know guys that do get moonshine will do the same thing I know a guy that I work with Used to take skittles separate them out and make different color moonshine would and it would be like I remember skittles talk of book one of the things. That's interesting is that Beer and milk come from the same basic Roy ingredients. They've come from a cow. No Oh no all comes from green so basically cows eat grain. Aw grasses which is basically the same ingredients that go into making beer I think cheese and beer pairs way better than wine and cheese. He's because it's really honestly Kinda it's full circle. You know it all comes from the same basic ingredients. It's just some as manufactured through a cow. Okay somebody who used to brew Beer Account About Candy and my favorite avert is having like a really good stout or porter and having chocolate like my favorite Lebron absolute favors having you know snacking on a little bit of that and that to be allowed but you just do the little bit that melting in your mouth you tape a sippy or stout and it's it's like there's I mean there's nothing better or very good sharp Cheddar or something like that we could go on and on about pairings I'll l.. Leave your listeners. With this and that I'll shut the hell up about the the brewers association website go on there. There's a little store function and it has all the books that brewers publications nations kicks out. There's a pamphlet that like three or four bucks. That's just a basics of pairing beer with food. If you're interested in playing around that stuff pick it up. It's is like it's cheap. It's worth picking up especially like the on a restaurant or a bar. Whatever and you WanNa start doing stuff like that? Check it out like it's it's a good basic resource to start off with listen. Listen that's Dan shopping up So Marge we need tomorrow. Manila chocolate strawberry claims her. Yeah all right. We're back now. And the fourth of Iberia is also from Idaho from edge brewing company now edge brewing company recently did a collaboration with Church Street and burqas brewing burqas out of Ohio and the reason being that Mark Naski was representing edge brewing company and he also associated with Church brewing company. Because he did some some of the recipes and burqas brewing is the son of Lisa Grega. Who is the owner of jersery? My God it's worse than the bloody story. Yeah right tracking. Don't get it anyway. Where was I? Oh yeah so. This is edge brewing and they're they're pretty Decent bring company in fact when we did our October. I remember this one. Can you were you there for that. One the octoberfest the Show but we might. was there for that. Maybe you Labia And anyway he raw with him an edge October October fest which was really good. It also brought one from rambling company which apparently also want to some sort of a medal somewhere so that doing good stuff out there in Voisey opening the beer okay. So could somebody open this. This is cold. I'm thirsty this is this is called Bass spasm. Lisk Bali wind no isn't Basil. This isn't a basil this type of Lizard I mean it's you know a listener. You're Harry Potter snake mythological mythological creature. That's a snake that will turn you to stone. If you look at it. Something along those lines. Something tells me you know. You're Harry Potter. I know no the mythological beasts a little bit more than Aquino the Harry Potter but it was it was the monster at the end of the second movie. Okay well. This is cool. Bacilus Bali wine and and this is Paul there beside vulne series which apparently is A series of Biz they call them the mythological or they the logical series abyss of unimaginable taste and epic gravity that with rival any ancient legend spiritual belief so they're putting themselves up on a lofty pedestal. Here for this now. This is one. I actually have the full grain bill and halt profile four. Because thank you very much they put it on the Front label which is really Nice This one does come with some openness to it because it was aged in oak spirals soaked in wild Turkey it says while Turkey one. Oh one anybody no will this. Well okay I know while Turkey one proof verb. I'll get strength bond. Okay so so. This has Columbus Centennial Cascade Hawks so no traditional English it has to row Munich to rotate communiqu. Kara Hell special. B malts and the yeast is San Diego Super So let's talk a little little bit about yeast in Bali wines What use did you use in wicked? Google's Eric we used Omegas British Ale one which which is a higher attenuating but of a drier British L. E.. So you're GonNa get a good esther profile out of it. Some of those kind of fruity deep stereotypical English Ale notes. But it's GonNa it's GonNa come out a little drier. Leave a little less sweetness It's one of our favorite East's reason in quite a few different for beers and about in yours Dan sway US S. O.. Four Where do you want to be on like a barley wine and I can't speak be downing? What else here does it? But I always whenever I'm using yeast. It's usually third or fourth generation needs. So I use that so far. Pretty Common in-home breeze you can pick it up anywhere and it's usually for five to seven percent beers. What I do is I'll I'll take that now? I grew it in our standard stout. Then I'll bump it up to an imperial version. That's doubt maybe a couple rounds of that and then I'll bring it to something like barley wine or Russian imperial stout or something like that. It kind of helps train the yeast to work up to those higher levels and be able to tolerate that higher alcohol level but flavor profile wise. I it might be the same strain in the Omega strain. You guys are used in a variety similar from Steve well as you magically call. Last year I used Nawgam not a a- and I do the same thing I do. You know. I'll do a five percent beer. I and rampant up and get enough cells. That particularly East is very neutral but got it will ferment concrete. If you get stiff isn't new via their mentioned concrete concrete or it's a good bit. Don't get it on your shoes. Maybe gone by using this year. That had something that was fermented in concrete. I'll be damned remember. Who Food Is? Yeah so sorry. Sorry to interrupt you. So how does so. You've got a British Airways you've got not again not an yeah. Did you get like. Is it green. Actually they just change the packaging. It is green. Say Nottingham is where Robin Hood came from. Okay is it the same use type of thing going on. I know my wife works. I know it's it's a British. Yeah nodding but it's not a little cleaner write. It's very neutral. Yeah it's very neutral so we do we use it for we use it for pretty much everything and you can adjust temperatures to get different esther profiles it's like our Scottish shale has it's very neutrally fermented at lower temperatures. It's it's also very versatile could permit down into the fifties at it keeps going sold Nottingham's kind of one of those bulletproof he's trains. It's been around for forever it it's it can do damn near anything since since the eleven hundreds i-it's since probably well before that you also get it dry so it's really it's really good. It's easy to use and it's economical and versatile. I used to raise it at limestone too. So does anybody know what San Diego Super Is. Yeah Humber never commercially here. But I've used it as a humber before it's it's a beast of east to choose through word really quick It's it's an American strain so it's a little less heavy a little cleaner fermenting This is This is probably the crispus cleanest barley wine. I think we've had so far Naturally talented American airline American hops definitely come down say I got that citrus. Even yeah backbone number this is just kind of gets out of the way and let the other things be the star of the show. I worked at a homebrew shop when this came out so I got stupid. Goofy like marketing literature on it it was bred to be a direct competitor. RETU- USO five. Yes whatever ten fifty six White Labs Bwi one which is a long way of saying the basic east train. That every Burris is that classic American restraint this was brewed to be that on steroids shoe through fermentation a little bit quicker. Little let higher alcohol attenuation but still these acting flavor profile so clean Chris nothing to not a whole like for an ale strain. It's about as close as you're going to get to a longer frame without going into like California common. What Eric said? It's it's an American barley for sure or more herbal I don't know I'm old so at anyone's familiar. With snaps candy. Yes there were little little liquorice tubes that had like pink and white coloring on them and it has snaps nose to it even know if they make snaps anymore. My Dad used the bills to grow savvy when I was growing up so we wouldn't take You keep saying you're Steve Hodi fifty seven. Oh Shit you. You're a youngster young stuff. Here's taking autumn. But this is whereas the other beers we've had so far we're more kurmule forward in multi forward. This was way more hop forward and it is I agree and so The guy out at the edge brewing head brewer. There is a guy named Brian Garcia Brown Interesting way. He came into WHO Beer knots because off. It says here. This is in his biography off to use of cheerleading and home brewing okay Eh. cheerleading obeyed a good bit. You know flashing around with Pom Poms. He came. I'm here to do that later. wrote so Brian I like it as a bit. I'm not so certain that the Bali wine profile comes through as much as the others but it is What's Kabibi on this? By the way thank you on the on the thing that was One point five eleven point five. That's well hidden from this. Yeah yeah to me. This drinks more like a slightly hot. WPA Yes and very American Marley out. I think this was PA. There is a say call their experimental series beside bombers. So we'll we'll let him off there. We're GONNA come half acres actually. He's it's about. This reminds me a lot of hype. Works there's a lot of American. Barley wines are very similar I think makers is quite bridge quake ridge but yeah it's you know it's it's just century American slightly very cool all right so we're gonNA come back closer to home with the next day before we head back to Illinois for lost couple of this. We're going to head to the Great State of Wisconsin in Wisconsin capital of Wisconsin Madison. Oh Shit I thought it was Milwaukee. Okay no no no. I'm just getting this beer. Capital of Wisconsin cattle is Milwaukee of girls and we have a beer here from a well-established brewing company. I'm putting in Milwaukee been around since nineteen ninety-seven which is way back in time In crop every time anyway You can remember that Khanaqin nine thousand nine hundred seven some of it. Yep Yep okay there you got any craft beer long time and I don't remember a lot of it so this is Milwaukee Brewing Company. And this is. They appear that they call. You brought this up. Describe what you have in your hand. No no the beer nights lights. It's a it's a barley wine. Oh no that's a little different isn't it won't be inobound bounded. I'm very confused. Right now. was reading what the help you know is not Pino like wine but to know. How do you spell that P. P. I. N. E. A.? You Okay and what is the name of the bid I grand madam barley wine. Okay all right cool okay got it out of me here for everything I say is like mccracken. And we've been through five Morley. I was gifted this bottle. And it's from M. k. e. what are they what do they call 'em key Milwaukee Brewing Company is NBC I Dunno okay reason Kentucky. Thank you fred has KFC. Oh wait a minute that works okay. Kerryon that's grandma. Adam barley wine aged in pinot barrels in smoke peony. A you okay so I looked up with that was and it's it's like A. It's a wine that is blended with Cognac. Oh Oh so it's like a it's like a fortified wine can. Would you open the bottle please. After fifteen minutes of talking about it eh off folks we have a Gotcha I gotcha of evening. Must be that opener. Yeah I think so so. Let's find out why is is be a guy. Well that's possible. Is this possibly bottle condition. It's been oprah while I could never number of things. Dan has a list of. I shook it right. Yeah number one reason. He shook it off. I got I got a fun story about that time. Yeah we go play. It's okay so my last Burri We had a porter that was one of our one of our year round beers. One of our better sellers. We always had it on. I had a guy come into the tap from one night. Just man. You're just totally blew up on me man. I don't know what happened but it was a news. A total disaster. That noise in the background. Is Ken Rolling up one. All those malls carry on them so like all right. Well Hey man I'm real sorry about that will get you a new bottle. Can you just like. I'm the brewers brewers. Can you just tell me what happened just so I know like what I got to look out for if this was actual problem the beer whatever so I went to like I was going to the Dave eight Matthews Band concert right and I went to the whole foods across the street from north of the island and had your beer so like I righteous man get your beer and I've got it and I snuck it in my backpack backpacking. Okay so we just let me make sure I understand this ewbal. My beer warm off the shelf from whole foods and then went to a concert and danced around for a half hour our before you opened it. And you're gonNA come bitch to me that it exploded and he's an you did just about everything wrong and he just kind of looked at me like to tell you manage exploded. How far down the list of Dan's reasons for gushing bureau number one included worry of them in that story? What's the answer so you shake it? If it's so the colder something is the more it's going to hold carbonation in solution so if you open to be a warm can explode with age. One of the one of the things that tends to happen is carbonation. Just tends to go into solution a little bit more so the older beer gets the more likely it is to kind of carbonate and Gush over like that but like that. The main reason is it's there's too much carbonation in solution for the temperature that it's at so if you've got a beer that you're worried about blowing up make sure it's cold when you open it and you know over sink if it's a Corcoran cage bottle. It's gotTa Cork in it. You can take the cage off and if you will that portal and you feel it moving. It's it's GonNa blow you'll you can actually feeling happening. Then it's a blow or there could be some bacteria in the bottle auto started a secondary fermentation sheree from immigration. This does have quite a bit of tartness in it like a sour. It has part of it is the the the Koniak barrel that comes through fairly well but it does have. I'm detecting some lactobacillus. That's got some like a gasoline and by by design to like you know it's the fact that it's packaged in a champagne bottle which means they're expecting levels carbonation. It could have been by design. I don't see anything about it being wild Easter Brad or anything like that on the bottle but there could have been some some bugs intentionally added at some point so certainly not very cold either. Yeah but it but it isn't war. Okay I was going to say I thought it was quite a nice temperature but yet may remember so just to be fair to them. This is part the destination local series and it comes typically in a twelve ounce bottle. At least that's the impression I'm getting by looking at the picture on their website right and it does say that it has aromas of raisin date and fig have that giving way to form flavors of tobacco ACAPA molasses finishing with a sweet warm stickiness. We don't we all do that from time to time And thankfully really finish stickiness. So this this really is a happy ending. I'm telling glass. Barley whites have got us the I.. U. Pills mcglasson. Thank you Dan. I think this maybe lost some of the sweet warm stickiness. Because it's not very good. So dry hurt. Yeah so this is very interesting so again how do you how. How did you stole this bottle? I mean someone gave it to you as a gift. And you don't know where it came from but well. We know where it came from Milwaukee Burr Company. But but you know. How's it still because that there's nothing to do with it it's stored in in my cellar? which is a closet in a box came to me? It's it's it's like seventy the in my house year round so it's been I do. I do have some stuff on the bottom. You know some some residues sediment it's definitely got some secondary fermentation and in the bottle which leads to the other like I. I went through. All the good reasons. Why appear can be gusher? But you get a you you get some bad reasons like infection. There's there's definitely some tarnished to this which we lack of US got in there and that for men's and settles out to the bottom you get that little segment good. If you've gotTa Gouzer. Olympic irs. Something that's supposed to have that but not so much in Charlie. One still tastes super awesome. It's very very interesting tasting. It's just there's there's hintze futile alcohol in there as well. It's scary and what's Algal. He's local halls pay higher alcohol. All of it generally from to warm fermentation You get some beers. I did judge it full Bab and there's some things said it's like rocket rocket fuel man. It's it's it's hot the alcohol rubbing alcohol right. He's kind of you get that. Yeah and how do you stop that from from happening you see robber from tation ten. Okay I mean really a Chaz assuming you don't want that no general so it's that's one of the thing about fermentation fermentation Criti- and if you're not harm punishing that heat it will. Yeast produces all sorts of things. That that you don't want in your beer and that's why you have jacket and fermenters which can control the temperatures. I think this is actually quite interesting. Beer it's very farley. One like it's more of a Belgian sour beer. Looking up with the piano is the most popular one is called Keno the district and it's a it's a A Mixer Steve. This I can't okay this is this is going well. Gosh we've had a broken gloves Stephen. Whatever already been bleeding? I'M GONNA move this quasi problem. Yeah Oh goodness overland's his booking their next Britain Yankee by de. Yeah Oh my God so okay so Milwaukee Brewing company what we know about it as anybody you know everything about it or is it just one one of our neighbors up north. Who makes reasonable beer and we think this is a very interesting brew? Even though it's not very Bali whether whether by design or something then went wrong during fermentation or aging Iraq. Weird but I like it whether the tartness was on purpose or not actually Kinda like what I do too early wine tasting. It's really not barley. For sure. was that it's really interesting tasting beer. It's Marlena I would say not so much everything else. It's I would definitely drink this again. I mean this has a nice Mildfield Of the aroma in it is addicting. You want to actually go in and take a SIP. After smell reminds me of the early like two brothers others sours when they were accidental. sours words they were fantastic beers but it was when they when one of their food is actionable. Excellent got infected. The first one was called skew like they caught it right away. They knew it happened. They released his our but it was not at all intentional. It's it it really reminds. Find me of that. It's it's a cool beer. That wasn't necessarily supposed to be a sour. But it totally works all right hands. Those of us we stickiness now. Are you all over my face. Because all over they corner the nevertheless shouted a sweet sticking all over the front of us We are back and we headed back into Illinois and to Romeo Ville and it. It just opened in. If you're on the what is that going it's nitrogen generator when it does something. It makes a noise that reminds me of the monty python surgeon. Sketch well over. There is the machine that goes being Eric's Burger it. Did something went. Okay fine here by Shaw. Aw right around the corner from my Burrito and freaks me this place is haunted. I'm pretty all right back to the show. Mental Monkey Burn in companies. Down in Romeo Ville did all stand cam to come here because we have his Silva back which is a barrel aged ball wine. I think in writing saying I don't have my glasses on. Put them on the and he unfortunately it had to decline because he said I'm getting ready for my fourth anniversary serie weekend which is coming up this weekend and he's got all sorts of things going on mostly metal band. No that stuff so it's going to be a head bangers weekend but some good beer ear. I'm sure so. Dan always been real good to the podcast. We did a podcast down. Live at Middle Monkey once and I'll never do another live. Well no because the metal monkey. Hi Four no and I never will slow but this is his silverback now. We had to be very careful. I four important us out and I and I said WHO's good at poor bear out. Of course who is hand up but Dan rose and he opened it so so we didn't get the sound of opening the CAN. So how does the CANGO SH- useful. Thank you boys just opening thank. Ah So dan has done his is it as Modi Asimov yes. I can never remember. But he's done his Russian imperial style bureau style which has been really really good. Now he's coming. I think this is his first Bali wine. I think I'm correct in saying that. If he's listening listening is not well too bad. That's what I said so We we've got a little squirt squirt there. It is This is come out to be. I think one of the more dark Mahogany ones. Don't you think Cliff quite look at good looking I'M GONNA go to Eric because es sitting on I'm in there and he's not said much. I looked bored and lonely. Eric tells about this. So it said it says barrel-a-day barreling down there. I don't get a ton of barrel out of this. I'm getting a lot of like alcoholic in the nose Which I think there's most of the barrel characters right thanks? Yeah it's got a really big ethanol knows it. It I think the kind of Carmela notes and Vanilla notes that you typically get out of a bourbon barrel are blending really well with the actual beardsell Those Carmelina Vanilla mired reaction kind of birch sugar. Her nose. Is You know our. It's hard to. It's hard to tell where the beer ends in. The Barrel Begins Sword. And that's not that's not a knock against any Manson. I think the barrel nicely integrated and with the beard now is one of those wants to where you really. I don't know about everybody else. I feel it going down warming. Yeah warming going down now. This does say on the CAN. It's bourbon barrel aged Bali wine but on the description and I got this from untapped so we know how accurate unpack it says a barrel aged version coming late twentieth. Nineteen so either this is early or there's something else that's coming later wrong. You know. It's twenty twenty right. Oh yeah so so. This is only eleven point four now now what I will say is this is eighty five by the US which I think is quite high for Bali wine. It doesn't taste like something that's eighty five being me and someone that does not generate towards Ip as long as the bitterness. I don't I don't taste it and Daniel don't because of the the amount of sugar when there's a lot of residual sugar in a beer it. The bitterness is balanced. You know I have my Russian imperial. Stout is somewhere. I can't even remember. I want to say about eighty five ninety I. It's a super sweet near Broadway that bitterness to balance it otherwise always sweet sticky the Russian imperial studies to my last one hundred. I use evernote. We didn't use for it because people would look at it and go. That's bitter bomb rats that to balance the mall. So so that's actually. That's actually interesting Dan because the more I look at you know people putting that bears out there and what they are the less. They seem to be focusing on the issues. And that's really interesting because I did not know that you know. There was a balanced between the two and at some point in Manga. The closest approximation that most people Mike Connor remember from High School Chemistry. If you remember your Ph scale. It's a- as you add more acid if you add more base it balances out on the same thing with bitterness versus sweetness. The the more residual sweetness you have which which in a big high. ABB Beer a lot of residual sweetness the more bitterness. You WanNa add to counteract that when you start getting off that scale that's where you start getting your pastry stats in your super sugary sweet stuff into so the description that he has out here on on that which I take from the websites it says lively and Fuji Ritchie. And I would. I would give that sometimes sweet sometimes bitter sweet but always alcoholic and I would definitely agree with that because this is one I yeah I can taste. I said it was thirteen percent. I hadn't got it written down in the right place for on the palate. It's got a real cool like kind of burnt coffee flavor. Rustiness on the back end. I get a little bit of that kind of wood. Tannin flavor to it Yeah Yeah it's it's a cool beer. I don't like the at this point. Were five barley wines in my palate. Might be a little screwed. But I don't get any bourbon into it now. Aside from that little woodsy character on the back end or the ethanol part of it like that being said. It's you know like Eric said earlier. You don't necessarily know where the beer ends on the barrel begins. And that's that is not a bad thing and this is this is one of those that you well at least my first a sip. I didn't get a very good impression. The second one I got more of the the third one okay. I really starting to appreciate this so I think the small small twelve ounce can is probably a great idea for something like this because you can stay in the sniff sit down at the end of the evening and really appreciate it. Suck doc back to a comment that you made Dan I'M GONNA go around the table here. What was your favorite subject to score? You talked about Chemistry High School Chemistry. Steve can can you remember school Steve. You're all I'm old but it was geography geography. Okay where are we know that he failed. Dan Dan Physics physics okay. You're like the physics okay. What is the law of gravity law gravity It's God what you stand up you fall down. Yeah I mean that is the law. I have enough if I'm remembering right. Is Apples apples to apples math math really well. I loved math math. What is Pie delicious attained Dave. You're I love your the school onto we're probably around there and I was a big fan of lunch. By far my I spend periods. Nice okay. Sloppy Eric's anybody. That wasn't an sorry and visit Lingo. Probably divided between math and history. Okay cool all right well. I never went to school. So he's like that explains lanes of mindless football. Yes right every dawn you go all right so Dan. We wish you all the very best feel full anniversary weekend. I should you say that there's another brewery in town in town but in Illinois Anyway local seventy fifth anniversary this weekend and that is the fine folks noon whistle. Aw and So congratulations anybody. WHO GETS to four or five years? I think that they're doing something quite right. You know anybody here. We're four or five years off-spinner. This'll be four all go ken. How Long Vitamin Oakland? We're in our seventh year with that. We'll take a quick break all right. Well coming to the end of our Bali Surrey. What was that can? I saw you the cup. I was just wondering what that was. I was listening to the music. Because it's funny when I go headphones on because I'm listening to you guys very closely and and he's he's not just jamming whenever he wants and I can hear the The the music coming from he's listening taproom right beyond because we are recording this on Wednesday evening after holidays. Bottling Yeah at the end of this Bali wine Afam. Has I like to call it. I just thought of it. Actually I thought it was pretty We have a beer that I've been looking forward to for a while because Islay we're ski Barrel Beers an Islay Pete at all that intense smokiness is one of my favorite adjuncts. Really an adjunct. What it's it's a flavoring? What would you call them? Then it's possible. I basically laid. It has an iodine quality to it. It's it's it's Pete Flavor it comes from the the water there is always so it's a flavoring. It's is not an agile desert. No now okay. You have the bottle I do. Go ahead and open that so you get the sound of fake. Oh there's a little Jason Solemin out there so this is from the fire and the sound effect is good because it's this from lake effect burning the fine folks down in Chicago and I understand because we're recording this off the Illinois Brusco meeting that at least one of you. I can't remember who it was Was ooh oh Steve. Sorry you were talking. With Clinton Routes Clinton out who is part of these the bird and then as Lynn four order through is also a partner. So they're downtown in Chicago and this is lock affect because it is a beer that is aged in a get this right. A single malt islay whisky barrel which is is absolutely stuff whiskey with either be go. Well done Dan so I oh mad smell I brought it up to my nose Ties as brewer brewer. This this PD flavor is like it's an off labor like if you get this flavor in your beer you have done terribly horribly like Im- unimaginably wrong but in Scotch. It's hey go for it. It's just it's so incredible scotches. Yeah it's basically Finol finol his A Sulphur compound that Basically smoke is basically phenol. Sulfur compounds that that don't necessarily smell good everybody but I think this is wonderful. My favorite Scotch is my favorite. Is Hard bag which is extremely smoky. some people tastes like bacterium. What's back to back teen? That's a basically a Yeah Yeah really wow. I didn't get a well anyway. I love the aroma us. It's fantastic. I haven't tried it yet. Yoga of it man. That's what it's extremely smoky is a hint of sulfur in there So I just like to say they've been a few groans coming around. If anybody does not like this I wanNA drink it. Please posit over to me because I've just hang up. It's right right so like burning wood. Sorry I leaned in probably burning. Wood gives off this aroma and flavor and taste like a forest fire. Basically what ISLA. Whiskey basically has a forest fire flavor with Melville. So Eric for last year's birthday for you I I gave you. Because you're so good to the podcast I gave you a bottle of goose island. islay wasn't an imperial stout. I think it will uh-huh yeah. I probably their Bourbon County base aged in skyline bottles. What did you think of it I liked it. I say this is somebody and I sorry to admit. I'm not a big Fan of rouch beers. I know it's heartbreaking. But wait a minute this is not right. But it's the smokey flavor and beer. I typically don't go crazy for but that being said I enjoy scotch so I liked the Scotch notes and the pete notes in that beer and I'm I'm actually Based on the small I wasn't sure but I really like the flavor in this. It's it's kind of muted from. I think from that island. It's a level just below for sure. Yeah I drink drops of Water Eh. This is One of highest ones coming in thirteen percent. And thank you thank you lingo. Didn't like it so he gave me his try. It smells like He. S should be drinking. All serve by your smells like so there was those one other beer the really I enjoyed which was From Stone Brewing Company. And I think it was cool longer stronger on cop or something like right. That was the arrogant Boston. Don Annihilate barrel and it was just fabulous and you can pick up those bottles for about less than nine bucks and whenever I came las when I came across was in a local liquor store hair over In in Saint Giles area and I picked that up for eight fifty the bottom line. I just enjoyed every drop of having a monster production facility in just giant barrel Bro. Van Like they're bringing in truckloads. It's a barrel under time. They'd like cost is it doesn't become a factor that down so we We have Something that's quite strong. Dulcet work. I guess for you guys as I mean. I don't think this has the true taste of a Bali wine but by God it tasty to me anyway. Yeah No. The eight flavor is dominant by by far Sixty like that. You're GonNa like this beer if you don't you're not. I think the taste is a lot more approachable. Once you smell you might get scam. Actually the thirteen percent doesn't really come through. It's the trump signed up It's got a nice sweetness. It doesn't have a ton of barley wine character. You do get some caramel but it's pretty much smoke you know. It's Pete Smoking Smoking. It's it's I mean. I love it because I loved those kind of whiskies. Yeah me tell me well. I don't want the whiskeys cigar. Yeah I would have been some Eric said earlier gets the. There's a world of difference between a row Sh- beer beer it's still arou- spear it. That smoke flavor is very much. You are standing over a campfire really and smoke heated. There's there's a little more around this to it. There's a little bit of fun to like. Some people will pick up like that kind of old band AIDS Labor. Doing but it's it's there's a little a bit more of a depth and complexity to than there is with just straight smoke. Who would I say this is a barley wine? Hey might have been before when in this barrel shirt. uh-huh it drinks a Louis. Bv Light Scotch. I would love to see this as a Scottish Eighty Schillinger we heavy or something. uh-huh yeah and I I would agree. I think if you'd said this was a eilly barrel we heavy. We wouldn't have been any different right right. Barrel covers up probably about ninety five percent of this. It's also kind of a pallet record because I don't know that I'll be able to taste anything but pete smoke for the rest the night will you. Can you can have to have a washout. Because we're going to finish up with summer is from you. Guys drinking wicked googly. which is our wonderful river? It lands on Vine and friends of the Britain Yankee podcast Bali wine. So we'll talk about that when we get I was I was going to ask something there and I it completely at my head so you are Sophie. Segue Segue Segue so the problem in his Were how many barley wines D.. So I I have headphones on so I can make sure I get a reasonably even even level and Steve who is sitting on my left is coming into my right is when every says anything. I look to the right and it's lingo when he's not talking because you swap over. I'll tell you what hang on headphones around. Oh aw right now. We're on a good team. I got news for you. I don't know what else to say about this. I think I've ruined everybody's forties pilot so definitely. We're going to have to have some water. I think I know you know what I was going to be. Utah's about Funky nece wet band date. I have never had anything that tastes like a wet band aid so I just don't know what that means. No because they're plastic is Are you talking about the the linen one or the plastic classic. It's the night is yet y'all still time. That's just kind of the modern equivalent student. Because everybody's been in a pool. They had like a band aid on and got out so like era body as all done it. You've all got that weird sense from when you guys don't just sit around eating bandits soon to sit in a pallet a training class and tastes some bands. Hey the balls. That we were on a pallet is that the pellet you're talking about no wouldn't listen what I was GonNa say now and it's GonNa get all right. I know you said about funk is I'll hold onto saying let's just rail him one more to talk about Funky nece. What are you listening to music guys? Come on what are you. Listen to streaming because we were say. We've had bottling today and there was some modern shit on the radio going on. You know I liked it. It was just the Beatles are the same thing every day on. Repeat all the time that's case you can never replace soundgarden. Gordon Dave what what what what do you play it. Actually actually lately. There's a band called psycho stick. That's from the God rested suburbs. They actually ever song called Beer. And I just digging some psycho stick late. Oh really we can find that I have looked at my phone here all right. Good Senate over. We're platform Dan. I if you want some good modern funk listening now I want to hear what you listen listen here come the mummies. Yes they're phenomenal. Oh is anybody know who come the mummies? All they're going to be on at the cow here and Saint John's right there are no. It's it's it's like what are they knew Elaine's now they're they're a session musician. Such as as a group of session musicians from Nashville that are all signed to different record labels and and the legally aren't allowed to perform together so they perform anonymously dressed as mummy. It's like they're they're phenomenal. Kick ASS CASS. All right here may Dan. Hi Five we know you know. I'm always GONNA be the grateful dead or or Bluegrass. But I've also been listening to outlaw country and I'd like you to look up Mojo Nixon Okay Mojo Nixon. Have some fun with Dan. Thank you dave. I'm a little more new school. I guess compared to this group I'm a big guy. Yes cheat it with my coffee. A little bit of that. I'm awake. I'm ready to roll all right. Cool through funds through fighters right. There's never too much Dave Grohl. There's no way you can say. Wait a minute. Yeah we got Zeppelin in here too. We we get our fair share that just to let we know his mentors are called grow all and pro account city. There's four led Zeppelin Negga. Okay Cool Lingo. I listen to mostly stuff on Xm steer Xm satellite. So I listened it by listening to music. It's anything from FI- Fifties on five live all the way up through eighty eight so I listened to pretty much everything. Plus you can get a little finger punch. Or what got Smith in there. I listen to you go if you want to have the music podcast man. Okay keep going very oh i. I'm a huge fan. Fanta Make Myers she at Meg. Meyer okay all brought to check her out. So does anybody here know Mike Oldfield. Yeah Ah excellent you must know him from the exorcist. No jubal bells drawn a blank. What did very very very very they? We're here for a summary and terribly. Sorry that this has been rothery merrythought beer festival but hopefully you guys have Gosh She's volley wind the phone. Hopefully you guys have had a lot of fun. chatting and talking about this stuff and hopefully listeners of enjoyed listening learning more. We're about barley wines. Learning about Bali one in fact we haven't actually several. The origins of Bali wine are and I think my idea. Bali wine was that it was brewed back in the late. Seventeen hundreds probably brew before but I think that was when it first came in and it was brewed to give to the ability because they were drinking wine all the time and beer producers in England said hey we can produce something that's a little bit more The go to to the upper crust taste if you will and so they said. Let's Bruce something with Bali and call it a wine and mcbrayer it to a little higher alcohol on sell it to the nobility and so that's what they used to do with Bali. Why now if anybody's got a different idea and I'm sure Dan has a different idea? He's back but he's he's sitting far away from the microphone so we won't be able to hear a lot of UK Burris. What they would do is they would do? One Mash and make three three beers from one mash. In the Farley wine was generally the first runnings Yup and then the next would be the best bitter then the regular bitter which would be the lower alcohol beers. Let's see if we can. Let's see if we can sum up the evening. We've had a lot of really good. Bali wise and embiid for summing up because we have empty glosses is going to be a wicked googly. Eric would you please do the honors of opening that serve. The story of this is that I suggested well done good sound. Let's all do it together one more time. It's it's a very sophisticated by looking at WHO's three K.. This award dogging Jan so Thank you for that sound effects so eyesight I'd really like mckarrick Brew Traditional English style. And he said what could you talk. It's not easy doc. Now he said what the heck are you talking about and I said well how ball Nice Bali wind and said can is anxious to do. Let's do a collaboration aberration. He said I'm up for it so I paid him fifty bucks and we'll set up. But you guys the recipe for this and a whole batch of a barley wine for fifty bucks. Yeah Hey yeah But this was obviously the first obviously but it was the first Bali. Why brewed right Yeah this is my first one ever whether it was homebrew professional bring. This wasn't her first crack at the style. Beer too exciting Trying to learn something new and and take a different approach than we might normally approach other beers and You know it's always Kinda Fun digging into styles that I haven't made before and seeing what makes those styles styles unique and kind of starting from scratch and figuring it out. Can you fruita Bali wine right. Yep I've heard a few barley wines smell longtime. Yeah so you were able to come in as your years of expertise and give this young whippersnapper. A little bit of guidance over that's hilarious decades. Actually we came up with the concept. Eric wrote the recipe. He was GONNA add some sugar to it to help strengthen it and finish it and dry it out and I I I felt like it should be. It's a traditional all English barley wine. It should be and so that was my biggest contribution. I other than labour and I and I have to say it was an absolute pleasure because it was an experience for me to come in. See how you did all this and ask questions and I bet you got sick and tired of also the second guessing everything. I'm doing it right if I can explain it to somebody that means. Hopefully I kind of know what I'm doing and it was a lot of fun then bottling today well that was absolute slowed. Slog believed so everybody. This podcast is going to be released the same day as released the bit. What is a wicked googly? Well you're going to have to find out by buying the right. Yes well Don Dan okay. It is a cricket thing so is actually the A certain bowl. How can I suppose occur? You pitch the bowl. Yeah there we go kind of a couple but instead of breaking on the inside it breaks on the outside can come back and hit so wicked. Knuckle John Knock on. Hang out sooner than inswinger about thank you very much world world. I'm so glad we have such intelligent spokespeople we do I. Just that's about about it. So Yeah Doc. Look it up on Youtube You'll be able to see. That Seinfeld made a commercial for American Express sponsors but they they do sponsor brightening valby if they want to sponsor by all means among Bruin Dot com sponsors INFO at Ah Feinberg migraine guy if anyone else yeah so so so this. This fear has got a very nice toasted malt knows very toasty almost like Kinda toasted pecans. It's it's very toasty the news you're headed for that one you are and yes yup. Yup Yes yes that has A. It has a really nice caramel flavor. It's very a young. It was bottled today. So it doesn't have some of the more traditional age Statements to it. You know the dried fruit and that kind of stuff but but it's very nice. We suggest you come and buy two bottles wanted drink now. One to keep for a year also put some in a barrel right. Yeah we put to So actually it's it's Previously used stout barrels. So it's We did our first barely edged out a little while ago so we PURCHASE THOSE BARRELS OF CO two As soon as we emptied them and then And then you fill them up with barley wine as soon as we could so we're hoping to get a little bit of a little bit of the Bourbon that's left and maybe a little bit of character in there too. I think it should be pretty interesting beard. And that'll come out way in the fear. Gas S K Ken. Where are you going to stick your body one? Wait a minute is going silent. Like we're talking about here and sticking confuse I'm going to the one in front of me. I'M GONNA stick in my mouth and what I take home with are not home but take back to hop fine nine. We're going to put on tap all right so so river. Islands is going to tap it. What you open at noon probably noon on Friday on Friday so we'll we'll tap it at five on Friday at four twenty? Okay sure okay. It's legal now from the aroma. Just the hints. That are in there. It's already got a just a hint of those light cherry notes. I like you you feel saying by two by three or four dollars. Just don't come on every year. Say something me. I want them to sell out. I like the way you barley wines. If you've ever getting a fresh one by a few bottles of beer that is so fascinating to watch develop overtime missing ones. Like just just is based on the tasting notes. I'm getting off. How's it going to be a fun one and it sounds like we're doing advertisement for your beard Collab- someone who likes tears? I most definitely would still drink this in the summertime. There's no doubt it's it's that good where you know by a few bottles. I mean this this is awesome I you know so in between these Biz in between all these Biz. You came out Eric with a pallet cleanser which was a ginger cranberry very blood orange. Okay yeah it was about that so it was really good pollock plans but it was also very nice so you could drink that in the middle of winter. Drink something a little heavier in the middle of summit. Why don't you need to change up from time to time? All right I'm GONNA come around here and also Everybody what they thought perhaps was there. I say favorite with You know free cautiously on that would because I know sometimes it's not a favorite. There's lots of with the one you preferred. How's that so I'm gonNA start over here? Okay but the old Guy Steve. Oh wait a minute it's me You know what I really liked dance dance beer. I I love the way that the The plum and the cranberry sort of worked together. I mean it didn't taste like a fruit and beer tasted like barley wine and it had all those else notes and in a year-old crawler which is pretty impressive. I that would be my preference Dan. ooh there before no honestly they all kind of had different notes of what makes up a barley wine. It's it's really fascinating to watch how everybody else does the same style You put a gun to my head. I'd say probably this one the weekend we really. I'm a are you kidding. Yes it's okay. I'll give you the ten bucks later. I know it's it's it's a cool beer especially for young as it is you know the ABC's a little bit lower than we typically shoot for with a barley wine but ten percents still right in the middle of that range. So it's it's good. It's got the Light Cherry notes that I expected develop over time. I'm really interested to see what this appears. Here's Lincoln two three years. Ken will pass you for the second. Okay we'll come today today. I'm going with migrants. Well that was awesome. Thank that big a big fan of that for scrapping Dan. I'M GONNA say the same thing man. I think you're barley wine was my favorite of the bunch To me the way the the plum and the cranberry right integrated in and it didn't steal the show from the base beer but rather played a part in supporting I think this is awesome. I mean it was really really well executed beer. Nice gold-medal now. It hasn't actually entered only on a minor problem lingam. This is really a hard decision for me. I think that the wicked googly. Just the regular in the bottle is phenomenal but in a year. I can't imagine how much better this is GonNa get with age. got so much promise. And it's awesome. Some and I really had a hard time picking between Stephen Dan because both were really good and I gotta say kind of going with the crowd. The ends in the growl or for a year crawler. I couldn't believe how good it was and still had some kind of a head when we were born we were still still getting some serious yet to it and so and and the aromatics and everything has often been absolutely fantastic older still some left. What yeah okay Back to Ken but to you and I I didn't want to leave you. I just wanted to come in the end because guys I you know. I like the barbarian. I think that was the one that was the lighter the our like American barley wines. I thought that was tasty Dan Your Beer. Was this delicious and you know. I'm a part of the homebrew group that that made that. which is what Pale? But I'm going to say my favorite was the metal monkey. I love how the barley wine character integrated with barrel and I I also wanted to say the lake effect with That Scott was really interesting and fun but I think my favorite of the bunch launch is the metal monkey very cool all right. Hey that just leaves me. So we could googly has down now okay. I have to say this. I had nothing to do with the recipe on the brink of it. It turned out really good and light. What you say for a young Bali wine? This works really well I was relatively impressed with the barbarian brewing bond. I thought the had a law promise It was something a little bit different but luck effect. I'm with you Steve. I mean just from from that Eilly Pete barrel anything in that just gets me hands down because that just hit so my my you know buttons but I have to say say Dan the definitely our blessed Lady of acceleration for Sheer Flavor Journey. You you know that plum and all those different things that you put into it and if I if I want it come on give me now with Louis left and right now we do have a bottle of it that you brought in you did with this is the Pale original which is all the same age so yeah so the the difference between the two the version that I gave detail was just the pure barely partly one day they had a barrel. They brought it to us. We blended it all together with the barrels that we had because we tend batches. Lebron one barrel you know the other the the rest of the bills breath but before I added the fruit. I pulled off their carbonated indicates. And we we did that. But Louis we brought the unreleased version of it as well so you guys can give it a try into the barrel a sorry not the not the for the unfruitful for the baseline so you can try it without. We got a little bit lessons prowlers. You can in comparison to what we're GONNA do that off my so you guys are going to miss out on it. We're GonNa Have Fun Ladies and gentlemen. Please try Bali wines. Not because we've proved one but because there's something different. There's a little bit back to the origins of of original brewing. You know they're very old traditional via gentlemen. Thank you very much for coming in Lingo ads. Just wanted to finish with the bud. Oh sorry I gotTa say the Illinois experience in Barreling Linus feckless. I mean the some of the other ones are okay. But I'll tell you what stuffed routing on the cans down the best. I gotTa tell you the four. The fight brewers brewers. We have here for five. I have here since I'm telling you these guys you you guys have to go to the breweries stories and sample their stuff and just the knowledge in this room is phenomenal. And and the the screen the week yet the age is top it. He's like the third oldest in the rule. You the NEOM that him's not the oldest lingo have to say one thing just new word and really dig it amusing tomorrow Supreme Supreme. I WanNa name a beer supreme. I'm immediately that you know the phone. It appears that they do a privilege. I raise my glass and thank you all. Oh Yeah Gentlemen thank you good night and good night from him in front of a Mike. Hey Real quick just just before you. I got to give a big shout out to the burbs at Pale. They like for colliding with me on that beard. Like we kinda rush past a little bit but it's it's a homebrew that has spun. Did you listen to last week's episode. I didn't well. You gave him all the public the Yankees attack but go go undetected but these.

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First Things First 7/15 - 7/19

First Things First

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First Things First 7/15 - 7/19

"Good morning everyone welcome to Monday. This is first things first. I'm John Wolf. That's the hall of Famer Chris Carter this nick right good weekend boys to you got a little <music> son. We are starting to week off strong. Russell Westbrook might have to give up his point guard duties Steph Curry. He's got his is set on a fourth title. We are going to start though this morning with one Anthony Davis the brow officially announced as the the Lakers is introductory press conference on Saturday and when you para former number-one pick and six time all star Anthony Davis next arguably the best player of all time Lebron James You'd think the rest of the roster would just fall into place but but there was no falling here the Lakers strategically built it down to team around the two stars and if you ask Anthony Davis he'll tell you it's a pretty unstoppable team too. I like our author light now every player that we have <hes> you know from one to fifteen fourteen fourteen so I'm excited about an you know. I'll put up against anybody. <hes> I feel like that no in a seven-game series that will come stories see we'll start with you. Do you agree with Anthony Davis. Would you put this laker roster up against anyone else's in the N._B._A.. We'll be fair with Anthony Davis. The one thing that he's probably looking at is there's a couple of players Rondo and boogie cousins who he started with when they were in New Orleans. He thought they had a good opportunity. He wanted to bring boogie cousins back. When boogie cousins is on contract was because he felt good about the way especially to both of them? Both of them had spectacular seasons together so now so if you look at F- Rhonda was happened to be a starter so now I have what I had in New Orleans plus Lebron plus coups and some of these other veterans coming off the bench. I could see why he thinks Oh. This is definitely the best roster he's he's ever been on so I can understand that Lebron's playoff experience Lebron's championship experience being with the Lakers. I can understand that but the thing is we're not gonNA know about this till the end of the season because just like we Crown Toronto Toronto World Champ. We didn't know that they were going to buy. We didn't know they were going to have Ghazal trade them late and he was going to be so affected. We didn't know Serge Ibaka you know some he wants to be a starter will he by coming off the Bitch Wjr oh he did it and he did it well providing leadership for them to with that second unit so they have an opportunity but this is about winning games about championship. It's not about who's the best on paper and they're going to have to get a number veteran players to buy in to the team concept and what is best for the Lakers then they have the chance to be to fight for championship and whoever wins the championship is the best team they're not giving out no paper champs for four. Oh who's the best team on paper and when Anthony Davis says one through fourteen the best roster is not determined by one through fourteen. It's really one through eight sometimes one through seven because in in the playoffs that's as many guys is you're going to play real minutes and to Chris's point once you get past the top six guys guys seven sometimes guys seven and eight or guys that are not currently on the roster Marcus was one of the foremost important raptors he was not on the roster the beginning of the year we know the Lakers while they might not be able to make amid season trade. They will be active in the buyout market whether it's Nile Korver under a dollar or someone we haven't discussed so when I'm talking when I think about the Lakers roster it's how do their top six guys that are on the Russ Right now compared to the other best teams in the West so the Lakers stopped six guys regardless of position Lebron Anthony Davis Kyle Kuzma Danny Green boogie cousins Avery Bradley. That's not not Rondo News on K._C._P._T.. Top six so the top six four the clippers Qui- Paul George Lou Williams Pat Beverley mantras Herro Mohawk Liz I can you can make an argument defensively for the clippers. I think offense lead the Lakers acres seem to be the stronger unit. What about the rockets though hard and Russ Erik Gordon P._J.? Tucker Clint Cabello Austin rivers that team where if the hardening rusting that's a big if fits everyone else knows the role exactly exactly Philly has strong is now the problem is they only have six strong guys. They desperately need to be involved in the trademark of the buyout markets so I don't think right now. There is a clear cut best roster in the N._B._A.. That's why it's the most wide open it's been as you said and fifteen years. That's why Vegas doesn't have a clear favourite because we don't have a warriors. We don't even have a cavs of a few years ago where it's like after the warriors the cavs are clearly the best. There's to me five teams in the Lakers Clippers rockets sixers and bucks you can make a really strong case for and then there's the jazz in the nuggets who are saying don't forget about us. We really do go ten people deep so that when you got a quarter of the League that I think if we did family feud style you would get at least some votes for that's where it's this wide open but the Lakers roster what it does have if people know their roles is I believe the most upside of any roster ambassador because definitely Denver Utah. They're going to play more of a teen con. Yes and you know those teams are going to buy in Portland on the outside of that. They're going to have big by in from their roster because of their leadership there so I thought she bought up some. I'm great points as far as WHO's going to buy an end the rest of that roster might not in the playoffs but it will help you get through an eighty two games schedule will that rest of the Rosser just real quick that is why even if you don't have Denver or Utah team such such as those winning the title those teams are going to be to me be the most likely to have the path to the title go through their stadiums because while I'm only worried about one through seven and a half for the playoffs through the regular for season it really is one through eleven or twelve and those teams that have legitimate viable rotation players as an entire second unit. That's all the raptors last year when seventeen and five in the games without Kawhi Leonard because they have the depth and that's until they made sure they started out at home in every playoff series they played except for the one against the book so you guys both echoed the same thing. No your roles exactly to be successful on this team and buy into what's best for the team as opposed to what's best for you but then and this is something we'll get into a little later we talk about well is best for the team for a guy like Anthony Davis to play. The four or five is best for Lebron James to play the point guard or is it. What's best for the specific player? I think you have a little bit of a difference there. What's best for the team in what's best for the player player? How do you make all of that work? We'll have to Davis for the people in L._A.. Who've never interviewed him? This is not anything new where everyone people were saying oh he should play the five. I told you he's always said I don't WanNa play the five. I don't WanNa be a five. I don't WanNa be categorized as a five so to me. That's not new information. What if that's best for the team? What's best for that player when you trade for him is what's best for that players most important when he came to the Lakers they trade all those assets now he will play a five role when the because there was some time they'll have units out there but he has been on record? Why would you trade for someone that say they? I don't want to do this and then you're getting ready to force them to do it. That doesn't make sense. That's not the star type of treatment meant. They should build a team around him with the respect what he's going on record saying a number of years ago and it's listen. It's not ideal as far as if you were just building this team from twenty thousand feet that Anthony Davis is probably only going to finish games as the five as opposed to start and finish games at the five but Chris Point is correct and that this is not new information. The Lakers knew that and it's something I I think he is in today's N._B._A.. I think he would be the most devastating stretch stretch five we've ever seen but he only wants to do that. In very select roles in varies in spot minute similar to what I would play in the post. I've been saying that for years but he he won't play in the post because he doesn't want to the best lineup for the Lakers honestly probably Anthony Davis at the five and Lebron at the four and that might be how they close they might close with Lebron being the second-biggest person on the court coups MMA third and then a couple of shooters with the end the five but it's not the position even if it's the position I think their best served with implying especially given the roster. Let you Boogie come off the bench run that second unit. There's a lot of reasons for it but if the guy who you are building the future of your franchise around but that's not what he wants to play he doesn't want any. He's not effective is a four he's wildly effective is a four I think in today's N._B._A.. He'd be best buy move it on Lonzo ball time with the Lakers lasted just disappointing seasons but the former second overall pick is excited for a fresh start alongside new pelicans teammate Zion Williamson Nickel Lonzo be good fit with Zairean. New Orleans actually think he's a great fit because he's GonNa try to push the pace gang rebound pushing up the court designs going to be running the court also defensively. I think these two guys can be two-fifths somebody very good N._B._A.. Defense and we know that lawns Lonzo's and underrated athlete you see it in the highlights his ability get above the ram but more importantly his ability to throw lobs design on when he's trying to get above the rim ending. Do it a little more under the radar that he was able to do it in Los Angeles with his Dad and all this distraction stranding sending me he should be a good fit but one thing to watch for Zaylon can't shoot Lonzo can't shoot their center canes shoot the only got to shooters in the lineup so they better play with pace before teams set up there half court for defense. Nick made some good points as far as the defensive end they should be athletic and be good on that end but why spacey and on the court because they know right. It's going to run himself ragged running off screens trying to get open for them. I tune now Kosovan onto crispy moving onto Chris Paul when he was traded to the thunder for Russell Westbrook last week a lot of people C.. P. Three would be quickly flipped to another team but recent reports have okay open to keeping Chris Ball next to the thunder hold onto the thirty four year olds Janet you know shooting is important. Is that what I interrupted. Is that what you were going to say. I think so they don't be upset with me CRO. I'm looking at your here on the thing I wonder how could you do so smart not realize that this is a vast improvement. Yes okay to answer your question. Gina won't get us back on track. Okay see is not going to keep crispell like they might keep him temporarily. They might wait until the entire league can trade for him. Once the players member the players who signed this off season can't be traded late December so we could start your own O'casey but okay see is not going to have this expensive of a roster to not be a contender to not be a playoff team name so no I he might start the earn okay see but I would be flabbergasted if he ended the urine okay. He's definitely going to be out. Okay see they're going to give enough draft picks to breath. Hey Chris Paul and we'll give you some. Do you want anything back. No we're good no no. He's gotta go. It doesn't fit their model in total rebuil- I to the warriors now they've been title favorites for half a decade but Kevin Durant is gone. Nobody's sure when Klay Thompson Bounceback from a tornado Seattle and they're all all moving into a new stadium next year and that has many wondering if golden steak and make it back to the big stage Steph curry doesn't wonder he says quote we got championship DNA. We know that we've got our core when Klay gets bath. It's going to be it interesting year for sure all the way around. It's going to be challenging to really find that momentum early but with the new arena losing the finals this summer's a different vibe keeps you locked in Knicker people sleeping on the warriors as title contenders just last week. You made a top seven warriors. We're not we're all surprised. Listen the the the idea that the warriors are gonna find themselves outside of the playoffs. I reject that I think steps to good. I've encouraged to good of a coach. I think Klay we'll be back at some point but they're not finals contenders. They're not titled Contenders so I mean if you're sleeping on immune. Stay sleep like that's they vary limited. Ceiling Chris's really kept keeps harping. On what type of team are they going to be defensively offensively. That's a real question the fit with de Ngelo Russell that's a real question and who is draymond green is he the player we saw in moments in the postseason last year or it's the player we saw the entirety of last regular season which was a very good but no longer best in the league level defender while being a hindrance on your offense and how much does that hinder the offense those first few months of the year when clay is out there and the whole year when Katie's out they're not even to mention the emotional side of draymond where Iggy is Gone Shaun Livingston's gone and Draymond waiting for that next contract so the warriors will be a playoff team. They I think when Klay comes back can be dangerous first round team but this is not a championship team when we talk about the litany of teams in the West that one through six or elite basketball teams to me the warriors and all that list I and Steph is right to a certain degree Steve Kerr himself clay who's who could be on the rack for at least half the season next year in Draymond who else has got championship d._N._A.. Looney Eagles say just because he was out there on the court no to me so that's the only people they have like those backups and everything they were afraid to play them when they start getting those injuries man. Steve Kerr went like all of them. We opened up my bench. We this is what we do. We Develop L.. A. Players know they haven't drafted will they haven't developed anymore. Players since Draymond got drafted Steph got drafted in clay who else if they developed as a player they have not in it will hurt them this. They're not a championship team. I think Steph that he mentioned that new arena twice in there. I think so he's great he. He's the best I mean he's the best face person all absolute and I mentioned we've got a new state and a new arena that from Oakland San Different vibe in everything he's doing uh he's doing what he's got to do but championship no and how do guys who have been competing for championships for the last five years a team that went to more consecutive finals than in the organization has since Russell Celtics fix. How do they respond when you are into February and March and it's very clear? This isn't a championship level team like that is the other element of it was we've talked about the warriors having a second year the warriors amping up for the postseason listen well. What does how when you add five straight hundred game seasons whether you're a championship level team or not this year that wear and tear still on you for Draymond for Steph clay is going to be out at the beginning? How does draymond can himself as his amped up he needs to be when the Games feel less meaningful this year than they have it anytime since he's been a full-time starter with the whole specter of free agency and are the warriors even going to offer me a Max contract hanging over? There's no sense offensive confidence that that Daniel will be able to keep keep everything in play until Klay gets back then it's just clay and Steph and how powerful that duo is and how far they can take this team. We're diesel restroom. Go then. He's making twenty seven million. Can you wanted to play this big role and then soon as clay where you're gonNA put him on the court. What are they going to do defensively? They're an awful small team and member. When Katie got hurt? We gave the ball more to dream on offensively you can't you bring it another guard now who is in the pick and roll in handles the ball all the time so how does get into the offense afloat no this is not a good fit. It's a good fit when Claes her but they are not a good three guard rotation there no that arena that Steph brought up a couple of times I believe is the biggest reason or one of the biggest reasons that they acquired de Ngelo Russell the way they did they can't we saw this team briefly but we saw this even the playoffs with no Katie and no oh clay and the way teams guarded Steph made his life impossible they couldn't go into a season saying steph run around like it's Davidson except with N._B._A.. Level defenders instead of mid major level defenders so they had to bring in another option and they had to keep things interesting because they're opening chase center. The warriors could as soon as the season after this once again be championship favourite. We'll see what they drain on. See what they trade. Dangelo four have stepping clay for a full season. It might just be one year. They're down but I doubt they'll be favorites that the I'm just saying I'm not going to very very hopeful okay but is that this year there there's no championship level team and can get nobody happier about that. Daryl Morey talked about the rockets. Now they've made the last couple years all about beating the warriors they made the blockbuster trade of the off season swapping out Chris Paul for a younger superstar in Russell Westbrook and with West broken. James Harden Reunited in Houston to ball dominant guys who both play the same position what could possibly go wrong well. Charles Barkley can answer that saying the only way this works is if Ross gives up his point guard duties to harden so C. C. which played he thinks going to have to adjust their game more. How how does this all play out? The way for this to work is both players have to adjust you can't depend on one player to adjust but it has a lot to do with the skill level the intellect select who can make adjustments before you say okay. Who's the better player when we drafted Randy Moss immediately? I had to make some adjustments not only that I have to give my Z.. Receiver which is the flanker too tight inside off the ball goes in motion a lot. I had to give that up to randy because he was more fit to be the and it was easier for him to learn the offense from that position. So was it natural for me to give it up. Yes was it better for Randy for me to build to give it up. Yes yes but did randy have the ability to do anything else. No not initially coming in so when you look at hard and you look at at Russ what's their skill set. James Harden build a scored a basketball at the level that we haven't seen since Wilt Chamberlain now. Do I want to jeopardize that with Russ because Russ is not good playing off the ball so I can't just make Russ play to guard when his skill set is everything but a to guard the shooting guard Russ Russia's not a good shooter so no you have to be able to mix it up. You also have to build a play at some type of pace where you don't have to set it up and Russ can take it either off the rebound him or harden because both of them are very good rebounding guards and end before the defense is able to give up set up but this is a huge compromise for both the players. It's like a marriage sometime. Someone else is going to have to compromise a little more than the other fifty. Fifty doesn't mean equal but both of these players lawyers have to look at their game. They talked to each other and said that they wanted this now. Let's see what they do to accommodate the other player. They both have to make the adjustments. Here's the hardest part for Mike Dantonio for the rockets and I think this was a smart rate. I think you make these you can upgrade from Chris. Paul Ross player for years younger. You make that move when you're within hardens championship window but the complicating factors this of the two players the guy who can threaten a defense more more without the ball in his hands is James Heart so that we would actually be saying Russ. Keep the ball on your hands not as much didn't okay see but more so than Chris Paul had it because you still have to guard harden if he doesn't have the Boland's hands because he's such a threat to shoot rush is obviously not as efficient James Harden when James Harden has the ball his hands so what both these players must do is become better without the basketball. It's something James that I think frustrated Chris Paul Yep last year neither one of them are great. It's far as movement without the ball one on the baseline relocate and taking a guy down run them off a back screen though some they haven't done a bunch of it but their skill set at that is not as high as the other things they do offensive and the last few ears the way each of them. I believe had justified internally is when I have the ball in my hand which is so much of the time. I'm doing so much work when I don't have the bowl. That's my time to rest on the court. Will this year for both of them. They're going to have less workload workload as far as ball in their hand. So Russ is going to have to be hard cutting to the basket back screen Chris about and James is going to have to be relocating for shots if they do that. This can work one of the things this helps the rockets with these last year. What did we keep hearing shack and chuck say on inside the N._B._A.? And all about the Houston latent playoff games when you just need a basket they're still just shooting threes. When you just need some type of high high percentage shot? They didn't have anyone one of the harden who could get to the RIM ruskin still get to the rim at an elite level Ross. I think should help them Layton Games as far as we don't need three what we need is the best basket we can find but that it's GonNa take forty six minutes then working together her to get to that problems late Games Russ is not very good from the free throw line teams. Will he go to the bucket knowing that he can get fouled. We've seen that with other players that they tend to stay away from the bucket and F Russ when he's on the point point harden is good shooter is he's not a good spot shooter. He almost dribbles on these one time for every so you don't need that as a to guard so his skill set even though it's good he likes to dribble the basketball before he shoots so it's going to be something that's going to evolve as the season goes on because this is not a natural fit for either one of these guys. That's my question. How long does Dantonio give this trying to make it work before he just says okay hard and go do what you did for that thirty game stretch last year? We need wins heading into the that. Won't that won't work they. I don't listen they're assuming they're not as injured as they were. Last year. They're not going to need hardened to be a one man show for as long stretches they did last season but you oh you are not going to be able to marginalize Ross the way you did crispell which is why it does take both of these guys saying having come to Jesus moment together of man we both done everything in this league we ever could've imagined except for when a title and back the last time either one of us were even in the finals was seven years ago when we played together same as kids in Oklahoma City so figuring out the push in the pool there we saw Russ by the way. Go from twenty four shots per game here before they got Paul. George down to twenty. Now Twenty is still the fourth most in basketball but last year Paul George actually took more shots per game then Russell Westbrook is probably surprised if people but he did like can both of those guys take seventeen to eighteen shots per game instead of both of hard last year twenty four himself like the he led the League in that category can they both take a slightly lesser role because the other factor here is Erik. Gordon didn't have a great relationship and Chris Paul and I'm sure he's one of the people glad Chris Balls gone but Gordon's also got to be thinking like how many plays the game is going to be run for me one to like. You've got to make sure Gordon who is a very important third piece of this team feels those involved as well so this is a difficult adjustment for it's all it's all everything's going to work out. I called her and everything we're living together. We get married then you favorite workout. Outfit gets bleeds Jenner when they wash clothes and you're like you know something man. I was better off by my dude. Every thirty six points last year been neat no type of help so there's going to be some times like you said Oh. I can do this by myself regardless of all ya I called him. This off season said I wanted to play with them chef Chris. We're talking Lakers. What Anthony Davis was officially introduced on Saturday? People thought the toughest decision moving forward was going to be deciding which Jersey number two where but a new concern might be brewing where to a plate is six time all star listed as a center eighty might have a different preference in Los Angeles all I plan to four. I'm not even sure code four far but <hes> it becomes down to it coach he'd even played a fog and I'll play the five but <hes> they say it's the the game has become so position list that you know you can put five guys on the floor and then they just play. You know you guys the thing that came about Eljay Wanna point superstar you. Have you know top point guard so you never it really doesn't matter <hes> you know just put five guys out there that that fits best with each other and go out there and win not only did the Boston Celtics win the N._B._A.. Finals and nine hundred eighty six but a queen size mattress was only one hundred sixty nine dollars though Larry Bird is no longer playing mattress firm is making sure the eighties are still represented during mattress firm's flashback trek sale you can save up to four hundred dollars on throwback deal suitable for the sleep hall of fame score and updated bed for price in the past and start sleeping like one of the Pros I love it. It's position list and it really doesn't matter that being said I'm not playing the five chess someone and make sure everybody knows that start. Would it be mistake not to play at the center position. Yes I mean he's going to have to play some senator. Now is nice to have boogie cousins there to face Nicola Yokich and Joel embiid and you know somebody's bigger bigger lumbering centers that are on the block and that's what really doesn't WanNa do but he hit look a lot of times. It's going to be essentially position list and against many teams if not most he can and should play center Houston with Cappella. He can play center Golden State when they go small or even if they have Willie Call Steiner whoever center he can play center. Yes so there's it will be one to match up with what the opponent does but to because there's an advantage for the Lakers he's a seven footer so if they go small you still have a seven footer who can protect the Rim who can also be your center and I think look. I think it's possible if Lebron is at point that they're starting lineup could be Lebron. Hi James Avery Bradley Danny Green Cow Coups were Anthony Davis yes which would put Davis at the center. That's the lineup magic mentioned as the finishing. That's their best lineup but that's listen. I've been told repeatedly because that's the exact Glenn up that I presented as well and it was right before magic. PUT It out there. That's not how they're going to start games because of this because Anthony Davis does not want to be listed as the center does not want to start games as the center now. I agree with you in today's N._B._A.. The reason so devastating when he plays center is you have no good options defending right if you put someone that gives us so good on the perimeter these highlights are facing up fifteen feet from the basket big men can't guard him out there so if you put someone on him that can guard him out there. He's going to be five inches taller than them and then you can go down on the block and kill him but that's how he wants to play the majority of his minutes. It is to me the Best Lakers lineup and the other problem they run into his this. If they start a center Lebron will start obviously Davis Will Start Center X. will start probably boogie cousins right so called Boogie and then Danny Green Kyle Kuzma would be your next to best guys who guards point guards art Danny Green when he's your best wing defender like he all of a sudden you start having real questions about what the lineup will look like. I think that I think magic was correct. That will be the closing lineup with Avery Bradley being the only question Mark depending on his guard regard. That's absolutely which is why that could be your starting lineup but not if you also have to start a center and the other thing that starting center is going to mean is less minute. We're Lebron is on the court surrounded surrounded by shooters Lebron's going to start Anthony Davis in a center now. There's only two spots available for shooters. Danny Green will be one of them but Khouzina was a shooters rookie year not at all his second year so that's where Frank Vogel job immediately gets more difficult than it has to be because this is just. I don't know if it's emotionally physically whatever it is. It's not what Anthony Davis wants to do. He doesn't want to log those minutes defensively. It's not on offense and it's on the defensive. He doesn't want to guard in other big center especially if traditional they're going to be in the low post fifteen to twenty minutes a game and he doesn't want to be stereotype as a center Anthony Davis grew up in Chicago. She was a guard all right growth spurt but he was a guard and we have seen players for a number of different readers either by height. I remember the Kid Kevin Garnett Man. How Taller you six Levin now you seventeen eighteen eighteen? They came up with that. What happened to rent taller? You six Levin why I don't know those guys was because Garnett said I don't WanNa be called a center and if you call me some feet I gotTa Play Center. Tell Dunkin wasn't a center technically but he e._S._e.. Play like a center right so so to me. I'm not concerned about it. I think Anthony Davis did the right thing. <HES> bill parcells said the number one way to get your coaches attention is do what he asked you to do and he did defer to coach and said after coach asked me to play that but we've seen this Lebron I would Lebron should have been power forward longtime ago. I want him to play in the post longtime ago. He wouldn't wouldn't why because he doesn't want to but when he's forced to in certain games you've seen it. Come out and I think the Lakers will be fine. You have to build a find some shooters Anthony Davis when you are that type of player and he's gone on record. This is not new to me when they traded for him. I said don't put him at center. He's always said he doesn't want to play center in now. We'll see how it plays out. I don't think it's going to affect their season. What is the negative stereotype around playing center? Is it all is it. All the workload is at all. You don't want to go up again defending bags like why do you guys now. Stereotype is just viewed as you know. You're a big cumbersome. Players have ardennes skin. He's gotta get over that because the line of image if boogies in there and I know boogie stretches the floor and can shoot the three three but I like boogie better on the block. I don't really want to see about three Roy line taking five or six game so if you have boogie cousins Anthony Davis and Lebron court become yes I mean like Lebron just play point point guard. It may not be as important for him to have that open lane but if he's playing is typical point forward the he's GonNa want that lane open the to penetrate and do what he does and with that lineup it's going to be tough and it is assuming that Boogie is going to be some symbol of the guy we saw at the end of the regular season and not the guy we saw post quad injury now and always going to be better than he was in the finals where he fought his way onto the court and my God it looks like he's lost thirty pounds. I mean he looks as we've ever seen him to his credit but the the if he's not if he suffers another injury which now has to be on the board then when you're done what starting centers it's your back to jail McGee who I know what is coming off his best year but that's he's not a he shouldn't be in the top seven of your rotation of you're trying to win a title unless you have three superstars and no team has three superstars anymore so it does complicate things enormously. I think the biggest biggest upside of Lebron playing point even just in name only is that it means Rondo doesn't start because that's another player that would constrict the court. The biggest upside Dante Davis playing center is it would mean between Lebron the point and anything Davis at the center you could get three people out there that are threats from three point line. That's not how they're going to start the Games and you're starting lineup while it doesn't have to be your closing line-up. It will be the line of the plays the most minutes over the course of the season so it does matter. We'll see all the Lakers jokes. You can't even right of five to four you run. What did y'all do a man? I don't know so so much mine was all verbal. A recent report says the thunder are in no rush to trade newly acquired Chris Paul Shockingly suitors are not looking for thirty four year old point guard who still has three years one hundred twenty four million dollars left on his deal nick how much does C._p._i.. Three half left in tanks and Chris Bowl can still help a good team but a good team doesn't have thirty seven million dollars to pay him so he's GonNa betwixt in between here when you see what the thunder are able to get for Chris Paul or maybe more accurately what they have to give up to get someone to take crispell. I think you might look at the Chris. Paul Russell Westbrook trade a little bit differently but he's going to start the year on Oklahoma City. I'm pretty convinced to that. Chris got a bad contract the first year it's okay if he was in Houston but now playing with the younger team is he the guy that you want mentor and all these young players I mean he's having accomplished career but he has been tough to ooh play with no matter where he's been look for Minnesota. Maybe at some point to get in this game move it on another player on the move could be Andre Iguodala. All of the former finals M._v._p.. Could soon be traded from the grizzlies with reports that the Lakers the rockets and the clippers are leading the charge see. Where do you think agee best fits well it? It depends on who gets an injury because someone gets an injury man especially in a wing player. I mean he could play with all those teams a great locker room room guy guys around League have a lot of respect for him. He's a guy that's going to buy into whatever role that he's playing. That's what he did there. In Golden State man any of those teams would men would it would help the roster to add iggy to them nick. I would listen He. He almost signed with Houston a few years ago. Remember that if he gets bought out I think all three of those teams will immediately try to court in but as far as a trade goes the only contending team that I could see actually trading for him. Is the Denver Nuggets. They've they've contracts make work. He played in Denver played really well and Denver. They think they can win the title but I don't know if anyone's going to give up a draft pick to peggy seventeen million bucks. Do millennials know what courting is 'cause you use that word okay so the the nuggets might try to slide into his D._M.'s far note. Bring it back a little said. I need relate to the millennials and their rainbow toast and stuff according J._r.. We are moving onto chair Smith now. The cavs wave the former M._B._A.. Champ and the Lakers reportedly quote unlikely to reunite J._R. and Lebron Nikki think it's a mistake for the Lakers not to pursue J._R.. Smith I mean you would help but if they only I think it would Allah would help more. I think Korver potentially could help more. I'd rather have J._R. Than Melo. If they're saving roster spot Melo I think J._R.'s got a little bit left in the tank. I think someone will pick him up. We knew the cavs. We're going to waive him. They weren't gonNA pay him fifteen fifteen million dollars this year this allows them to duck beneath the luxury tax but only J._R.'s Don. I would like to see J._R.. Trying to make a contribution on the team but I can't forget last time I saw J._R.. On a basketball court and Cherry ours ought to type of person that with unsupervised super bowl unsupervised time alone. That's what he's been doing the last year no practice no organization no travel. That's doing whatever he wanted to do. <hes> J._R. will always have those eight points. Beginning of the second half game seven saved the season for the cavs one of the greatest championships ever key part of it by air twenty sixteen man. There's not that long ago years ago Andy With Ben Simmons who turns twenty-three three on Saturday and as an early happy birthday sixers gifted the former number one overall pick a five year one hundred seventy million dollar Max contract extension surprisingly only in Siman that surprisingly only in its Simmons remains game has been under a microscope since entering the league you'll because he can't really shoe from outside. Have any outside a sixteen feet. I WanNa start the whole segment overhaul sixers though are clearly all in what do you think nick how much of the sixers future is is dependent on Simmons and how much she develops that shooting game. It's enormously dependent because both of their franchise cornerstones their question marks about I know we pick on Simmons but JOYLIN beads a bill overall health and overall fitness and dedication to his body is a real question and Simmons ability to grow his game is real question. Which one are you more concerned about I am? I think that I think Joel embiid is more likely for it to go terribly. I think what he simmons is more likely to stay stagnant. If Simmons never improves than he's a fine player but not worthy of hundred seventy million dollars and not worthy of the stature he was given the number one overall pick because when he was taken number one overall everyone said look at all the things you can do imagine when he learns to shoot it's now been three years since then and he hasn't added one foot to was range. That is an enormous problem. The point that I'm making is the reason when people talk about trading Ben Simmons Should Philly move off Ben Simmons. I think one of the reasons they're hesitant to do this and Zach Lowe talked about this yesterday thought made a good point. Gene is Joel embiid's not Jaanus embiid's ninety Anthony Davis and beads not a guy that you know with utter certainty you can just say is going to be this level of player for the next decade. We know what his potential is so you do. They have to hold on to both guises. There's unknown factors with both of these guys but obviously Philly is paying him on potential. They're not paying him based on what he is. What he is right now is he's a very good defensive player? Who Rebounds Great I position who has great size but that is not worth thirty four million dollars a year over the next five years saint? Who Do you think is more likely to to fill their potential Joel embiid? We're Ben Simmons. It's not even close Jolan beat and he's closer to doing that. The reason why I have more competent Joel embiid is because we're wondering is his conditioning is is eating ever going to be on par with the footwork and the other parts of his game did he went through all the tedious process of doing correct so I've already seen some. He's already done it in his basketball game the eating part that's one of the parts that comes later for younger players for big guys. It's harder for big guys especially as far as their cardio is far as their knees. How much can their joint take with the pounding but he has shown me that he has been dominant? Tell me one area. We're been dominant. We're GONNA say all. It's his all round game now. He's an all-star Joel. EMBIID is a superstar and we got to make sure that we make the distinction between the two of them Jolan beat of course I have more confidence in. I don't think this is a bad contract. You have to sign bend to this contract track. I'm not gonNA continue to talk about his inability the shoe everyone knows he can't shoot last year's playoff run long shot. He took Levin Feet. He's not comfortable shooting the basketball it was it would be as if love there was a great running back and someone wanted me to turn him into a wide receiver and I've been like Okay Kenny do tyreek hill was wanting to do it. I told Nick doubts because most fast guys don't turn from track speed into y receivers Ben Simmons. We're trying to see if a non shooter can become an efficient shooter. We don't even know if he's shooting with the right hand is free throws shooting and what it does to other players players on the team because there's a half a body off of him in the lane if he's got the ball outside of fifteen feet because there's no need to guard him because he's no threat so for me right. He's a very good all-round player her. He's an all-star but to meet his franchise should be built should be built around Joel Embi and I wouldn't be surprised if Brett Brown ultimately they get rid of him because I don't believe him and Ben Simmons our best for each other other because I don't believe that he's pushing Ben Simmons to beat the best player he can be. I wouldn't be surprised at Ben. Simmons got traded. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it through this contract and they used him to trade off to get another asset nick. What comes with this contract? What are the expectations expectations realistic expectations from the sixers? I mean compared to what he shot last year. It can't be listened. The numbers last year are jarring and indefensible and I've been a guy that is defended Bin Simmons particularly during his rookie season season said listen. The guy is a rookie was a fringe all star. We saw what all the physical tools were and I assumed that he would grow his game even a little bit. The problem for Ben is if you look at tape your you're one year to win the league. It's indistinguishable all the things he was great addy still great at all the things he's bad he was still bad at. I can't find one area. He got discernibly better. He was shockingly good defensively as a rookie who's just as good Vince lease second-year player but the weakness is it. It seems like a broken record what it is when he took twenty five shots outside of sixteen feet all year the whole that's and so Chris was was harping on this rookie season and I say man he's a rookie. He's nineteen years old. He's already an excellent player. Give him time and I still think he deserves. I mean you still think he deserves time but it is disappointing thing that after that inbetween remember watching tape J. J. Davey and cloudy in Highschool yes in in college yes how much better his he got is about the is he not the freaky EST athlete that we have in the N._F._l.. Certainly on Ben Simmons the mark exactly the same. You can't expect all players did just Oh. I'm just GONNA appropriate. He's getting ready to get better. Ben Simmons made one three pointer in college has made zero Jn the same as at this table in two seasons pool season N._B._A.. Not even a buzzer beater not even even one at half court at halftime or something like that. He is not a shooter the basketball but I'm not mad about the contract. Al Horford had Max contract. There's other players out there had Max contract that aren't not superstars but they're all star. He's an all star basketball player F we can keep our expectations on that. I don't think we would be disappointed but as the number one pig is athletic as easy as biggest he is he can go off the dribble a great defender for him not to develop a jumps a jump shot. It's criminal because that's all got. You don't have to go to school. He don't have to work on anything else. The reason why we haven't seen any video agenda Jillian you've got more videos up there him. You know the reason why 'cause you G._M.. And you gotta reason you know what because people want to show off what they do. The reason why we haven't seen them showing off his shot because there ain't nothing this show all and it's the disappointing part is it's not the gap between him being an all star in a superstar. It's the gap between him being an all star and the potential be a League M._v._p.. That was in it'll be one of maybe the best player in the League one day because it his size his skill said if he had even just a mid range shot he's almost defensible eligible but he won't even shoot the ball so and you have to hope someone's having this conversation with him someone that he trusts in someone that will actually infighting tougher to have the converse that he did deserve the contract but it's tougher when he designed for a hundred seventy million all right. Let's move on Org make changes when I'm rich onto the N._F._l.. Now cowboys all pro running back. Ezekiel Elliott still has two years left on his rookie deal so no need to start the extension talks just yet right conventional wisdom not quite recent reports say Zeke could hold out of training camp and talks could go sideways if Dallas is in proactive on a new deal man. It seems to be the thing these days so you see what would the cowboys look like. If that actually happens Zik holds out Utah Deck FRESCA that better not signed his contract. If Zeke is not there no he better sign it before they see him without Zeke no no. I'm just saying for protection reason why Right Dallas cowboys. They're not to offense without Ezekiel Elliott now. You're not gonNA take away a special player. I'm not GonNa make people think Oh Zeke is just a normal running back. No He's not the situation. No come on stop me and only things similar neum. They played running back there from the big tent the listen that's when everything starts to go in different directions Zeke since two thousand sixteen only running back back to average eight hundred yards of game. That's the most dependable besides Dallas cowboys taken the field and that star being on their helmet Ezekiel Elliott has been the most dependable things since they drafted him. You knew he would be a great pro. You knew that he would be durable. Your question marks about him only thing will he catch the ball out backfield. He's he has more than adequate hands out the backfield. The screen game for Dallas has accused part of what they do because he's such a great open-field runner. He's the best running back in N._F._l.. Dallas is in the situation because of the president the rams who in the same situation that Zeke and the cowboys are in with Todd Gurley and Todd Gurley at that time consider to be one of the best backs in the league they signed him to a contract extension and you can believe with Zeke with all those carries in I three years in the league. He is going to hold out and he wants his money because if you look at the lifespan of a running back you have to look at their life totally different than the other players and when you can demand that salary you better hold tight on it because one injury and Todd Gurley is a great example of John Wall in the N._B._A.. He got is guaranteed money now. You don't have to worry about Ezekiel Elliott. He really puts his career every single weekend at risk if he goes out there without a new contract and this is one of those instances where we can actually look back on a decent sample. What did the cowboys look like without Ezekiel Elliott? Well we know in two thousand seventeen there were five and three football team and then Zeke finally at deserve that six game suspension the verse Three Games that six game suspension they were owned three and there were outscored ninety two to twenty two they ever seven points a game the first three games without them. They ended up rallying. They won the last three but in that stretch what did it due to deck deck in that six games without Zeke hundred ninety yards per game five total touchdowns quarterback rating seventy seven he had one good game that actually elevated that entire stretch against a mormon giants team he had a through for one seventy five against Atlanta hit a thirty quarterback rating against Philli a sixty one quarterback rating against the chargers through one hundred yards against Washington their offense ground to a halt because if he's not out there and all of a sudden DAK instead of facing eight-man boxes is facing seven-man than me on boxes or even six million bucks now his limitations Basser come to the forefront so listen. He's got two years left on his deal. The cowboys got to be back maury Byron Jones Lyle Collins. Maybe Jalen Smith all those guys only have one year left on their deal but he is so clearly their best player that even though he has two years left he has an auto amount of leverage here in this season the cowboys after winning just their second playoff game what fifteen years they think think they can take a major step forward this season making conference championship which you know about Zeke and Jerry Jones and the way the cowboys do business. Does it get to the point where he has to hold out. Yes because DAX contract is up Amari Cooper. His contract is up and his visit to the Commissioner's Office did not help his contracts see Stephen Jones Jones has been very vocal about paying deck Stephen Jones back in May. I don't want people to forget when he was asked about Zeke. He said that's something. I'm sure we'll get worked out so over the next couple years that was inmate Zeke once worked out in the next couple weeks while you wonder how much of that leverage has been less than because of that visit rising star your morning. The students would be forty two year old jump shot. Tom Jumper to scaring out for his twenty season in the N._F._l.. And while most would dread the wear and tear of another grueling season Tom Brady's reportedly excited as ever entering during this year say see what we expect from Brady and the Patriots man this is what the Patriots are going to look like ground and pound. You'RE GONNA think to Bill Belichick his mentor bill parcells they came together and came up with a game plan from Nineteen Eighties Nineteen Nineteen Ninety S. They're going to slow the pace down Sony Michelle. They're going to throw the ball short out of the backfield. Don't have a lot of threats on the outside so they're going to play great defense. Their secondary is the best in pro football so they're gonNA play eight to that. Michael Bennett on the defensive side over there to help out there rush get after the passer. That's the way New England. That's the way they played the last two months of the season. That's the way they'll play in two thousand nineteen Nick. There's only one absolute certainty going going into this season across the entire league and that's the patching when the A._F._C. East who don't take it from Josh Allen and the Bills Sam darnold on the jets is it is Josh Rosen is my guy the quarterback down in Miami now. He's their quarterback now right. Don't don't don't talk to Audubon is good about Josh Rosen. He's going to be the next great quarterback that division not yet no the battle the minimum when the A._F._C.'s moving on it took one run off season for N._B._A.. Star power to flood Los Angeles Santini Davis joined Lebron the Lakers that story but just down the hall. The Clippers got the reigning finals M._v._p.. Co I Leonard to play alongside Paul George also story and just like take that the Lakers clippers rivalry was renewed A._D.. Can't help would agree saying quote. It's going to be exciting to juggernauts going at it. We'll see who comes out on top nick. which do we'll have more success Lebron A._D.? Or coup why am Paul George in the short term I think the better duos clearly the one with the Lakers I think they've got the best player of the four and obviously the best big man of the four I think Paul George is the odd man out when you're ranking these three players so you're you're just saying obviously forget what you last season you said I whoever during the regular season we're going to determine the best player in the world all right once we get into the playoffs it will be up Jaanus all those other yep liberal well. He wasn't in the playoffs so what happened with that why you just raised over that co two Lakers got the Best Hawaii has earned the title and I think a lot of people consider him now. The Best Player in basketball he's earned that title Lebron seeded that title by missing the playoffs and then seeing Qui- or Jaanus was eligible as well going on that run that is one that that is a truism what also was true. Is this right now as we sit here today in the middle of July twenty nineteen. Do I believe quite Leonard's better basketball player than Lebron. I don't so but so here that's fine. He sometimes the changed the rules. I'm not changing the rules. Sometimes heavyweight champion of the world is not also the best boxer in world but he has the belt so he gets the title but regardless even see even you what I was about to say. He's even if you think why is slightly better than Lebron. The the odd-man-out with respect in this situation is Paul all George Paul George is the guy that is not one of those clear-cut seven best players in the League so in the short term to me. There are actually less health questions with the Lakers do then the clippers. Do they have a better. They have a more powerful to some top now rush the roster coaching staff. Those are questions but right now. The team that I think is best positioned for this year and the next year is the one with the Lakers the the one that's best position for the next six eight. Years is the one that doesn't have a thirty four year old soon to be thirty five year old on it. That's the clippers well. I think the do oh. You're going to be able to separate you can you can we can go through to N._B._A.. There's like eight. Do Oh six really really strong and you can go on. I like this guy like this guy but to me. It's not about the duels anymore. I know we don't have the super teams. It's about the other guys around supporting you went over Doc rivers briefly doc rivers ability the D. to make those backup players play the role that he wants them to play. I believe is more significant so to me. It's not about Anthony Davis. It's not about Lebron. It's about those other role players. It's about what role will they play. Will they accept that route boogie cousins. Does he have to come off bent. I knew all the clippers players if they wanted to come off the bench they've done it before. They got their bench mob and everything so what's going to be the buying to the duo's that make these things things go because we've seen in the playoffs you need more than two plays so for me right now the clippers I believe what they have is more dependable. I believe it's sustainable because the roles that they play. I you know something we got three of the best defenders you know something. That's going to work every night compared to I got to come up with the system. These two guys shouldn't be starters. Rondo shouldn't be a starter. Should boogie cousins be a starter. Those are things that have to be worked out. The clippers are ready to go right now with Kawai and with Paul George and the type of guys Patrick Beverley as the point guard Kawai Ampol George to me there is no other team that can put the type of defense that the clippers can put on you night in night out which I think is going to be dependable but I believe those role players play more of a role than we're trying to give them credit going over all these duels the Lakers clippers have wanted a similarity just inverse with each other and that is if the clipper we know the clippers are going to have a great defense should be the best defense in the N._B._A.. Certainly the best in the western conference if they have a top five offense to go along with it. They'll win the title assuming health the Lakers. I feel like we know we'll have a great offense with Lebron Anthony Davis if they have a top five defense they'll win the title. If they have a top ten defense they'll be right there the the the questions for the clippers that I think are not being because people have talked about the Lakers lineup coaching and and defense to question to me with the Clippers these you've got quiet and Paul. George and Lou Williams coming off off the bench. Do you have anyone else on that team. That is an above average offensive player because she gilgal Alexander's gone. Danilo Gallon are gone. They tried to tobias errors midseason. Those role moves they had to make to get this duo. WHOA that we're talking about but the as strong as they are defensively they only have three players on the roster that I that I think we know or even above average offense? What's more likely that the clippers are going to be top? Five offensively or the Lakers are going the top five defensively. It seems like as hard too hard to imagine the clippers playing that well offensively. It's that much harder imagine the Lakers suddenly turn it on and playing that well defensive problem plan offense. I mean it's look at who they had own the team Mike now they got Paul George Cohen they want forty eight games with the same Russell they had now. We're adding to all stars. I think they're gonNA build scored a basketball pretty good. How much office do you need in in the N._B._A.? Like you need three primary scores right so yes I can understand. Someone's going to have to fit that third four score but from a teamwork standpoint if you look at Doc rivers teams how do the play this roster should be one of the better teams that he's had ed going back to his Boston days even better than when they had the big three with the Clippers with Chris Paul and Blake and for the for the clippers their role players know their roles there where their roster turnover came at the top of the roster and the rookie Shea it was tobias. They won forty eight games. I know Tobias when they're for the whole thing but he was there up until the trade deadline and then Gallinari who was points per game. I think they're leading score. The last year siphoned buys airs for the Lakers. The Lakers are a totally different not so I don't know that we can use what they were good at or bad at last year as any indication of next year. They weren't a great defensive team last year but they've got from last year's team they of is Lebron still there. I know Rondo in K._C._P._T.. incudes mersal there but in except for Kuzma in very different roles they were they were playing ingram. They were playing different guys. Lebron Miss Twenty seven games and most importantly defensively. They didn't have Anthony Davis last year. Who's going to fix a lot of mistakes? Guys make on the perimeter. Defensively is not a lot of history we could rely on what the Lakers well look like on either side of the ball because it's such a difference restores. Start your morning so Ezekiel Elliott still has two years left on his rookie deal but according to reports cowboys running back is planning on holding out and can't contract talks could go sideways if progresses and made on a new deal. What do you think Chris Carter should Z.? Cold Out if Zeke wants a new contract he shouldn't hold out but he should let the team norm coming to training camp on participate but if I don't get a contract or not comfortable where we are we number one I I won't be on the field and I believe that the Dallas cowboys that's a threat that they would take series. You think he could do that and make the arrangement with the coaching staff that he's not gonNA play in the preseason games with I obviously you could you could right before each preseason game. Say My hamstring but do you think they could work with an arrangement so the teen can prepare because guys second team thirteen guy. They're going to be getting more reps and I think if you come to the coaching staff they'll respect that more than you being at home and then like training training in communication with them on a daily basis heart moving onto tiger woods now the forty year old is still recovering from his master's performance back in April saying quote the wind took a lot adamy see tiger in good shape padding into the open championship. I don't think so golf is a game about repetition. He hadn't played in enough tournaments. He's told us that his schedule will be abbreviated but typically he gets more work now. The major tournaments they've changed. He's the schedule so now he can't necessarily get those two or three tournaments that he would get M B before planning no summer majors if he wants to build win more majors which is only goal. He's going to have to figure out that schedule but he hadn't been on the practices much because there's some complications is far as his back since two masters. This puts me in a rough spot Gina Gina. WHO DO I pick for every major woods? You don't even seem like Tigers GonNa pick himself this week and you're GonNa ask me tomorrow one picking for the listen in Tiger if he never does anything after winning that masters it was still one of the greatest comeback stories in history of golf but he obviously believes he and wants to win three more to officially pass Jack or tie. Hey Jack with three or four more tabassum. It doesn't seem like he's that bullish on his prospects this weekend. I used to work with a guy might Greenberg. He's a huge tiger fan. I'm Mike Greenberg. He's smart though if tiger was saying this he picked somebody well wait for tomorrow I haven't the smartest guy ever worked with my love Greenie smart as me. Come on northwestern Kim Your N._B._A.. Now you can't talk about the best teams in the east without talking about the sixers but Charles Barkley really has some pretty blunt advice for Joel Embiid and for Ben Simmons Saint Quote and beat has got to get his fat but in shape and Ben Simmons has got to work on his game nichols development is more important to the teams longterm success. Would it be embiid or Simmons sense for the process to be considered a success. They both have to develop now in bead I would argue is much further along in his development. We've seen in bead play for stretches as an M._v._p.. Candidate Ben Simmons. We've seen gene for the entirety of his career. One glaring gaping hole now I think Simmons came into league more well rounded than and beat. I think Simmons his first game in the N._B._A.. was better than embiid was his first game but Simmons has stayed totally stagnant and embiid grown his game but it very different things. We're looking for these two guys. There isn't a part of Joel Embiid game aside from we'd like to be a little more consistent from three but he's seven two so that would just be a bonus that you really worried about. It's why during the conference semifinals was eat seemingly gametime decision every game you've got a stomach bug and then he's you're worried about his body like it's health fitness nutrition overall wellness and bodyweight with Simmons. It's will he still willie continue to be the lease competent shooter in the entire N._B._A.. So these are two very different things for me. Joel embiid's is in theory simple but it is something and athletes non athletes as humans across the spectrum struggle with which is how do I stay at my ideal body weight even if it's a huge part of what I do for a Living Forbidden Simmons. It's how do I take something that I've never been able to do that is incredibly critical. The only thing that matters to me taking the next step in my career and put in the work and I think deal with the embarrassment of the work which I think is a big part of this to get to that next level. I'll say this if the way they lost last year isn't motivating for each of them then nothing will be sipping. EMBIID was crying Ben Simmons if he's better in that series they beat Toronto and maybe they think they're the champions in the process is a resounding success exist so for both these guys plenty of motivation and we'll see starting next season if it resonates for that they both have to know what's the problem. Ben Simmons has to acknowledge that my shooting is holding his team back. Joel embiid has to acknowledge that if I don't get in better shape and stay healthy newsom wait. I'm going to continue to Miss Games because of it. That's the first thing they afternoon. I think you said it really brilliantly before people can talk to them up and down until they realized that they've got improve people as humans as athletes. They're never going to do it. The best ideas ideas people have are the ones they come up with or at least they think so because you kids you ask them. You tell them something like no then they come up with the been like all yeah. They have the energy to build to do it so for me. If it's going to stick with you it has to be personal. It has to be internal and that's the part where I believe that Joel embiid. It's a lot easier to gain control of your fitness to get himself at the proper weight and I like the Charles Barkley what Charleston because I know Charles's career Charles got cut by the Olympic team by Bobby Knight why because he was overweight and his personality and then eventually he talked about Moses Malone but that was later in his career Charles got the fitness part. You look at Charles Barclay on the Dream Team you look at those videos and you watch. I'll look how how much can raise off the ground. Everything Man That's what Zion will look like at his best but Charles is onto the fitness is a huge component. It's a lot easier than developing a jump shot but for me Ben Simmons we talk about his shooting or inability to shoot or reluctance to shoot away from ten feet because he's getting closer your number one seventy eight percent from ten feet last year eighty nine percent ten feet or closer but to me the problem is bigger bigger and to me. It's an attitude problem because I wouldn't have a problem with Ben Simmons F- He was just a bull in China shop. I'm gonNA play bully ball. I'm just GONNA play aggressive like I did that. The Night I dropped thirty one on Brooklyn right after Jimmy. It's an attitude. He doesn't take the court and going to play like a guy. That doesn't have a jump shot where I got to get to the paint. I'M GONNA use my size force over everyone on a regular night play light draymond green. He don't play like that. He plays laid back and everything so for me. That's the bigger problem then the jump shot because he could survive without a jump shot. He's an all star but can you continue be on the court. Be One the best athletes in not know that you said during among green how about this what about play like early Derrick Rose Derrick rose foot damn near foot shorter than Ben Simmons at least eight inches shorter and explosive athlete but going a hundred miles an hour at all times. He didn't have no jump shot now it wasn't he didn't shoot zero threes but he didn't. He was not a reliable jump shooter one in the M._v._p.. Playing that way and he was more explosive than Simmons but Simmons makeup that with lengthen right now Ben Simmons when he came into the League was the consensus number-one pick and then he misses the ear with the red shirt. You're with the injury and his rookie season. He is stature as I like to say damn near one of one and N._B._A.. History four rookies and people such as myself said wow. What does this guy going to be when he learns to shoot? There's Lebron James Caan like the baby King Young Prince Listen. There was an I don't know if this is what what beget what here but there are now all of a sudden a lot of questions about Simmons his motor during the game how much of how much of the celebrity lifestyle does he indulge in and how much is that more motivating than the actual game and how much does he want to work on the things he's not good good at because between his first and second year in the League he didn't or at least there was no discernible evidence that he did he just got paid as if he will now we'll see if he will one of the things that in talking to my peers that they used I always give me credit and they say Chris do the ugly stuff. You'll do the stuff that people don't like to do you'll do the train and you'll do the film study. You'll go across the middle. You'll block. You'll do those things see Ben Simmons. I don't care what Lebron cy young prince because if you don't develop it you just a toad you'll sixteen towed it might look good and everything but he needs to be oh to bring that to the basketball court that jump shot. He doesn't have a routine. I go to a lot of sixers games. He don't have no shooting routine like the scores we do. The steph curry's Leonard's guys who scored a basketball been does not have a routine and I know people are talking to him about it is he into the lifestyle in the benefits of the lifestyle compared to being an evolve player in that that's the question what's going to be as attitude moving forward to me. It don't matter if you don't know it ain't gonNA matter to me. I don't WanNa be right in this. I just like to see the best develop so that we can see the the best out of the Athletic Kabila. Maybe Lebron sits down and talk stem. Maybe he would respect him. I don't know I kind of like baby king then. I can say it again king baby he's made that up I now moving onto the thunder. They're still looking for suitors. Shooters further newly acquired point guard Chris Paul working against the thunder well Paul Thirty Four. He's on a three year one hundred twenty four million dollar contract and his game is on the decline working for them while he's got a great nickname and right now he appears to be healthy. A recent report says there's increasing expectations that Chris Paul will start the season with the Oklahoma City Thunder Nick Addy think he fits in here because it appears. It seems like this is where he's going to be released at least the foreseeable future. It's not a good idea to keep him but they don't have any choice right now. They can't sell product the no one wants to buy and people will eventually want to buy the product that is the that Chris Paul provides but you're going to have to wait until till the entire league is available to you forty percent of the players under contract in the N._B._A.. Right now are ineligible to be traded to out of five guys can't be traded because they signed this off season because of how the CBA works ramped. Wait until December. Okay now. Tell me something. Did you think the audience either didn't understand the two five are they didn't understand the forty percent I I was trying to put it in English. Teacher told this guy why us to one would do so were l.. I was trying to simplify. Maybe it didn't need simplification. The point remains that there's not enough teams right now that can get in the game Ford Nose Paul but for the thunder it is is in their incentive to be bad and it is in their incentive it is in their interest to play Shea Gilbert's Alexander at the point as much as possible. Chris Ball hurts both those things because while he's not worth his contract while he's on the decline he he will help you win games. They all these draft picks over the next seven years. The only good ones are going to be there's and that's assuming their net so they may be bad instantly and so no it's not great but what are you going to do. You can the only way you could get Miami to take him right. Now is if you included a bunch of picks along with and they're not in the business right now of giving picks way there in the business of bringing pigs in so he's going to have to start the season there they will make it work throughout. I would be shot to be finished the season there's not going to play the whole year there but through December and then see team like the Knicks says we gotta get in the market or if there's a team that thinks hey we're a Chris Paul away. I think most basketball fans are sitting here. Shock like me that forty percent of the players aren't developed available now with the hype on N._B._A.. We've never covered the N._B._A.. In off season the way we've done the last couple off season in this has the most height the most coverage reach so hap- forty percent of the players aren't available so there's not a whole bunch of trades to be made and I mean the rockets are so happy that someone took Chris Paul author hands so I mean how are the rockets going to get Chris. Paul taken off their hands and someone else is GonNa Take Chris Paul O._T._C.. Okay season. It's going to take some time in doing this so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he started the season on okay see and eventually gets moved because right now teams know they're trying to move so they're just sitting there and be like okay so you got all those picks. Bring some of those picks to me and they're like you know something. Maybe we bring attributing camp them talking about out Chris Paul and a future in okay. See is just talk all right. It's just talk to build a get off season. Try to get through training camp especially tried to develop those younger players that are more important than Chris Paul and we're also so late and free agency that teams James Ernie have done this was a lot earlier. This might be different conversation so if you look back on this trade now Houston and okay see repair the Houston got the better of this this is why I've been so adamant about defending the trade from the rockets perspective even though there's real questions about the fit with Russ and harden when you when you break it down to what would the rockets have had to include with Chris Paul to get nothing in return one bic Nick will they traded Chris Paul and two picks and got a top twenty player a flawed top twenty player and inefficient op twenty player a band three point shooting up twenty player but still atop twenty player and so when you see what Chris polls market is. I think it's going to make people reevaluate greatly. What were the rockets options to upgrade their roster this off season? If the Chris Paul James Harden relationship was as toxic as reported. Yes and you had to move off him so that's it. It's not just the player that Rossi's it's the player and the Value Chris. Paul has league-wide as we sit here in mid July twenty nineteen now. I've read a lot of things things about this trade. Watch videos podcast man. We're watching podcast like their call now to stop but there's too bad contracts in the N._B._A.. As much bad contract but Jewish John Wall in Chris Paul when Chris I fall gets traded for Russ. I haven't seen someone arguing that okay see one in this deal. No one no one's arguing that now nick he's got a connection to Houston. He's trying to say that they're a better basketball team and everything it's clear Houston Houston one when you get off of Chris Paul's contract and you're able to get Russ at his age and amount of money. You're going to pay him basically the same thing you're paying Chris Paul you would much how have Russ but that the conversation did they win in compared compared to is this a winning formula. Those are two different totally fair but now they're roster when they start date number one yes they are better but this is not just about talent. It's about skiing. It's about we'll people sacrifice gratifies Chris Paul and Harden there was no sacrifice and Chris Paul was not the only one wrong in all his demands there in Huston part of the problem is the head coach because the head coach won't change and he's not a confrontational oh God but on paper men because this is a one sided trade. We gotta get off Chris Paul and then we can get Russ in one of his buddies is hard because there's not a lot of people that would match up with hard well so we'd be having this argument with a lot what other guards new and for Chris Paul bringing full circle to a degree. I know people are going to say okay so wait till December and in the Lakers can trade for him no they can. I went through all the contracts yesterday. They would have to trade everyone. They brought in this summer except for Anthony Davis to Danny Green GonNA boogie gone. WHO's mcgahn like the Lakers are not a viable contender that there is not a contender that is going to be in the market for Chris Paul at least out West? Now these pseudo fake contenders in the east. Maybe but the reality for Chris Paul unfortunately is this year is going to be your bid and okay see or wherever he's dealt to where for the first time since his rookie season in New Orleans that he is not competing for champion Jimmy Most likely for a playoff spot and then in a couple years when he gets bought out maybe catches on with a contender in the final years of his career but this is he's about to injure garrone fortunately for the first time the N._B._A.. Wilderness and that contract has a lot to do. Who did we see this just recently happened to the beginning at least as Carmelo Anthony and you saw how that played out for him as he went teams and he's not to that place the very beginning just and Chris Paul is even prickly? He adds more value in the locker room in outside than Melo did but you're right that mellow was here and then all of a sudden the contract was now but draws bought out and then couldn't catch on it happen pretty quickly yeah all right. Let's take a break coming up. Coin Leonard have a personal vendetta against the Lakers. That's next number two days. One of the greatest fighters our generation puts his legacy on the line line has many pack yeah battles undefeated World Champ Thurman Sixty can't miss fine the summer it Saturday at nine eastern on paper view or you can order it on the Fox sports APP Common Field Time to go viral commercial together yeah. That's my commercial. That is correct. Do Thank you see yesterday. Lebron doofus fired up some N._B._A.. Touquet to get a preview lane with his new team Anthony Davis boogie cousins. He's got a lot to learn. There are eight new Lakers currently on the roster see this is not real video. It's real video of them playing video game did you do you listen to the words. You're you're saying the words but this that is a video oh game the media we saw was a video game. Which is the words you spoke that they were playing video game? No I understand but I don't see video or it's so real the okay it's so did you see by the AH thank you the we've had this debate. WHO's the best player in the League right? I said that the theoretically the guy who wins the title gets the title rescinded that title being a hypocrite he saw an M._b._a.. Touquet did know tell they have it as a tie between my guy in your oh come on Lebron all go to guide Oh. I didn't know that to the veteran. I just made it okay. I like that I like making up. Danny Green told me UH yesterday time for Stores Start Your morning. Tiger Woods set to tee off at the open championship this morning. He hasn't won the event since two thousand six see. What are you looking for in round one from tiger the courses playing easy easy this morning this some guys out there shooting four five under the leader Webb Simpson right now five under in round number one tiger woods not traditionally fast starter Roy mcelroy triple bogey defer soul tiger woods better get off to a fast start? He'd better shoot three or four under today if not there's too many golfers. There's too much chasing but I wouldn't be surprised if tigers in contention well so that I whole particularly our golf expert on the staff Davor macher pointed out only hole and championship golf where there's out of bounds sounds on both sides yes. You've talked about how nervous tiger gets the first whole love. Every majorie plays Yeah Void Rory's quad on the first you got a snowman on the first ole and Tiger himself triple bogeyed the opening hall of the U._S.. Open and last year. Try to make the turn and even-par is what I'm hoping oh I liked it but the Gulf expert on the show happens to be me and so dave can beat me golf all right. Don't be represent him as the Gulf expert okay me I do the grass and the golf commentary periodic sticking to the Chris Carter no problem. I heard Dave could beat you but he's been taken for his career. That's just what I heard wouldn't put a fast moving onto some football. The Falcon Sign Linebacker Dan Jones to a four year fifty fifty seven million dollars extension yesterday another Atlanta player not named Julio Jones to get paid see should Julio's contract we the Falcons top priority no legal stunt Arthur blanket. Whom I've understanding that came last year when Julio Hell so now they're not going to have Mattie Ryan go out there without Julio Jones outside of Matt Ryan Arthur Blank personally told me and our coach Julio Jones most important in or important player in the organization? He works hard. They got zero problems with him home. He's from the south to fans love him. He's the best receiver in the game of football. No that's that's that's assurance. They signed the defensive tackle major brady jared two days ago. They signed Dion Jones yesterday. You can believe the brink's truck arthur blank any run out of money right so that's what I was GonNa say is that Julio threatened to bit last year with three years left on his deal. Now got two years left on his deal. Everyone else has been taken care of. Everyone else has been paid. I would imagine during this season. He gets a contract extension. Yes so not with two years left with the year nap left on his Aaron Rodgers didn't they didn't they rewrite his contract NAFEESA lose. This is different than Ezekiel Elliott Jen. He's already proven himself. He's the best indisposition and longevity is time for him to get a new and the markets past him by right now. He's wildly under all right thirty. Seven year old Jason Witten came out of retirement to rejoin the cowboys this off season and Tony Romo isn't worried about eleven time pro bowler saying quote. He'll pick up right where he left off. That's the problem see. Where is that? What do you expect from whitten old Tony Romo Oh man? I'm GonNa tell you the worst thing about doing T._v.. When I retire you got these buddies out command and you know they just showed as you and you try to fix it? You try to say little things to help them out. Now is this Jason Witten. Would hair are Jason Win without hair because he tony plate with both of but no I I was trying to get a speed team. You Add Cobb to the offense Gabriel to the offense Amari Cooper in the neighboring Whitney Button Ole slowdown things again so nice job Tony Listen Jason witten should help them. I'm in one area. I will give him credit for this. What have I harped on? They were so bad inside the five yard zone and you know inside the dinner tonight and five he should help them. There and you can be reliable for Dak if they decided to pass on third and short he can still get you three yards. Put us and it's all give him credit for. That woody Hayes what he as things I we're joined by one N._B._A.. Analysts Christopher Bussard Hang Nice to see you to be here. Here's all looking back man. Thank you. Thank you Chris. Let's talk some Boston Celtics when the Celtics saw kyrie irving and Al Horford walk out the door this off season a plan was put into place be in the running to land six takes time all star Anthony Davis and when that plan fell through they moved to plan B B in the running for Kemba Walker and Enes Kanter but if he asked Boston's G._M.. Danny ainge the man they had there is set on Kemba and Kanter since day one take a listen are planning was Kimball Walker and his kanter and we're very fortunate that they chose the Boston Celtics and very excited about what they bring in many facets of the game but also as people for side look whether you truly believe that was dangerous plan a plan lampy plan J. whatever it was. What do you make of what he had to say up there in the podium look? They don't call him trader Danny for nothing. He's trader Danny and does a good lot lot of good deals because he is a good. Can I say B._S.. Artists Yeah. He said what he supposed to say. I prefer just a live yeah. I mean he's which a lot of g let's do publicly marks all Kyrie Irving Rice late by Daryl Morey. We're bringing back our whole starting five or the only team Chris Paul's Gone Prestia. We're not taking next year so he's not the only know is what he was supposed to say. This was probably playing D.. Yeah all right so I'm going to say planet was Kyrenia. D You okay. I'M GONNA throw in a plan B B that most people might not have thought about he probably thought about let me see if we can keep Kyri. Maybe Convince K. D. to come okay sure and then why Rian out Horford was playing see just got he Horford and now in that case then plan D is even once Kyrie leaves. Keep Al Horford right. Even we all thoughts. I really thought that Al Horford was going to stay right so this is whatever it might have been playing Jay all right all that said though I think the gap between our Horford in this cancer is bigger than the gap between Kyrie and Kimba. I agree like how they're going to as great as Kyrie's. They're going to miss out Horford more his professionalism his defense. He's a smart player. I mean that's one reason philly want him because he used to foil embiid so much in those wells playoff series Kimba is not as good as Kyri but I think they're better off with Kimball. I think he's going to buy more to what Brad Stevens is selling. He doesn't even know he's a star. He doesn't really have that superstar. Persona Donna that Kyrie had demands of with all star right man's of a superstar off and that'll be better with Stevens because Stevens I think has some issues handling superstars and those personality so I think Kimball fit in. I think you'll fit in better with the young players so look. If they had Horford I would say they're definitely better. I wonder now just because they lost out but I do like them. Better with Kimberlin Kyrie listen. I think everyone of the table agrees Kyrie's Areso better player than Kimba but it's relatively close and because all the reports trickling out of Boston and it seems like more coming is that Kyri was even more of a problem within that organization then has been reported that he was so out on everything Brad Stevens young players Danny ainge and he was out before Christmas is what it seems like as far as mentally out it may be explained Geno the point you kept making all all year which is how can Kyrie's numbers individually be so good yet they win so much more without him that the other guys were relieved when he was out there when he was not playing so I can buy the Kimba at eighty five percent of Kyrie's ability but zero percent of the Cairo drama is an upgrade but in his kanner is not bored of anyone's plan a for anything in the N._B._A.. In Twenty one thousand nine hundred period pointblank the people and Boston vans right now loving kanter fans always loving scanner until he starts playing for your team and then you're like Oh. He cannot play defensively played some off last year. You saw glimpse from what he could do. He's he's a very good score. A remained good rebound instantly. He played some of the better degeneres point. He's not a great defendant but in the playoffs kanter played some of the better defense that he's played the problem is they got a monster Onstream Philadelphia. Now let's go move Philadelphia somehow to the West and they weren't gonNA ever have to face them like bill to get to the finals. I could understand potentially sign in him as a guy in the meantime are he's not going to be a main guy but in the meantime until I get my guys I can have some serviceable pros light kanter on the roster 'cause Joel embiid is going to eat him up told him he can get whatever numbers that he wants to get on Tomo. He can have a fool beli he can have a stomach. You can have a back spousal like he can get what he wants against Kanter so thinking that they this was the plan aid. I just don't make myself go to the press. Conference entail the type of lie. I try to put something around. It compared 'cause Kanter. Watch KANTER's is twitch when he says knows it he wants to not lie catered on his Guy Roux Jewish talk about my man knicks hair no lease funny that was done by his canner there. I got no beat them in that regard Liz it. He's an extraordinary offensive player and he only plays twenty four minutes a game so like last year per thirty six he would have been and eight twenty one and fifteen guy so why doesn't he played thirty six because he might be the worst offensive big basketball the half dozen games in the playoffs notwithstanding but for Boston listen Boston you opted out of trading quite lynyrd because you had a bigger plan in store. You opted out of multiple moves because Anthony Davis was your white whale. Anthony Davidson kyw repairing was your ideal pairing of keeping tatum if you could if not it's fine. We'll keep Orford Kyri. Anthony Davis Al Horford that is now Kimball Walker Gains Kanner Jason Tatum. It's a disaster from what they had hoped for even if the team can be diese. It's a disaster because lash you you were conference contender and this year you not I mean barring major in Milwaukee is a level above you. Philadelphia is a level above you and if Brooklyn gives Kevin Durant back like we talked yesterday during the see their Sara level of you have no chance to be certainly not Brooklyn in Milwaukee. Let me throw out this two years ago. You thought Brad Stevens was one of the hottest young coaches in the league then he got paired with a guy like kyrie irving who was not buying into a system. We're learning more and more about how anti anti Brad Stevens. He seemed to be yeah. I know you need a superstar in this league maybe even to but what if these guys fit in the same way this team played so much better when curry seemingly was out of the line maybe they fit Brad Stevens how <music> certain Nice to have addressed Phychi but if as Maywood Polyester would difference with me that's real right. That's it ain't xs and Os baby. It's Willie's in the JOE's and around the N._B._A.. You need town you gotTa Center and Kanter can't stop opening by you got kimball who has the ceiling guys and talk about all that locker room stuff all that they got problems there. Brad Stevens is one of the problems because you go problem problem. Can you learn coach to preserve well. We just had a couple of stars all-stars Al Horford for Great Yeah as much of a problem but but why not handle Britney signed back with them I think because he wanted long bigger money long-term and the other problem besides the coach not build adapt to stars. They got a problem in Gordon Hayward all right. You talked about the the white whale being. They're GONNA put this. I loved him out. It is to is not who used to be. He's not the kid you recruited when you were Butler when he was a three star and his contract will continue to be a problem because because Jalen Brown new. They're trying to get a new contract now tatum. They're trying to get a new contract how much Gordon we're making what more MAC money thirty million coordinating those guys okay that will be a problem with those younger players who steal have goals. They try to get them amax contract. Quick points one on Stevens rolling the Celtics on Stevens listen. I may be got a little too enamored with his sideline out of bounds with his out of time out with doing more with less because he is as good XS and Os as anybody nobody in basketball as anybody in basketball but to your point about the willies and the JOE's a game down about XS and os the pace to force analogy business and it's a it's a talent management business now to your point about the Celtics Listen Celtics go make the playoffs the Celtics probably going to exceed their vegas total for wins. They're going to over achieve and get bouncing the first or second round. This is the story of this team. Since the big three left they over achieve you make a deep run them with Little Isaiah Thomas. You're a good story but you keep talking about what you will be without ever actually being it and that's the reality so they're gonNa Win Forty six games and they're gonNA have a tough first round series with the Pacers and we're GonNa talk about will wind. Jaylen Brown takes that leap again for the third straight year. We'll be talking about that with this team. You don't like Polyester Addresses Gina Polyester address in twenty five years but still if I wore one wouldn't be the worst thing in Steve Futterman one tomorrow should handle fire is Baker Mayfield about to make history and you're too. That's next offer polyester the forty nine days away Chris Candy is here. Welcome back man welcome back. I Lo- hardened thing happening on your something going on good. I like it appreciate it also did you just finish up your football champions into hosted every year in Manhattan. 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Come on in get on back one. Eight hundred eight seven a play. What am I saying? I don't know but let's talk about it together at the toll. Oh Free Line one. Eight hundred seven P. L. A. Y. Alibis ugliness. All that stuff it can get ugly when you got them. Alabama ah one eight hundred seventy play. We'll talk about it on Monday. A little bit but Championship Saturday is in the books. And that means the College Football playoff off matchup is officially set and it's going to be number one. LSU versus number. Three Clemson at eight o'clock eastern on Monday January thirteenth. You mean it's not this Monday now. Why isn't this Monday? I Dunno I honestly I don't know I guess it's like the Super Bowl because we need an extra week of hype but we know what happened to Oklahoma. They gave up sixty Steve Three points at the peach ball in Atlanta. And Joe Borough had eight touchdown passes seven in the first half. Justin Jefferson Cod. Four of the seven touchdown passes and CLEMSON got a late touchdown from Trevor Lawrence to running back travis us. ATN to secure a come from behind twenty nine twenty three over Ohio state in the Fiesta Bowl and there was a bad call in the game so there was no fumbled. There should have been a fumble but whatever clemson has won yet again now right now early oddsmakers say Lsu three and a half point point favorite in a de facto home game. Yes the Bayou bengals playing in Nala NHS now the look at Dabo Sweeney Dynasty daboh thrilling name. Better than that. Jim Bob cooter Jim. Bob cooter will end up apple's Code Clemson of course looking for a second consecutive national championship and its third and four years. I was very fortunate to attend the press box was actually outside press overflow data. Santa Clara Levi Stadium and I never thought I would go to a national championship game. Because they're always you know like super bowls somewhere far away where college football is king and I was never going to get on a plane nine to go to a college football game and but they put one here in the bay area where no one cares about college football now. I don't want to say no one cares. But the two teams up here cal Stanford no one cares about them for sure. I Lurk Rick. I love cow. All right fine you do. But swinney they have and his career they've supplanted Alabama as the dynasty in college football. Now they will so tell minted in fact they will cemented if they can get a win over. LSU remember only one family can rule the lane who you can get them pause on their helmets. The people what Paul's on their helmet. Oh yeah hold the home owner the Times. I heard that At that game. By the way Steve Futterman. CBS News. He was sitting next to me and he covers more than just sports. But he's like. Hey Rick don't you love that. Obama fight song a Mike. I I don't know what do you mean you don't know it. I don't know it. I thought you were a sports fan I am. I can't think of the Alabama Fight Song Right now. So you're telling me you know it. Yeah I don't know it. Then they play the song fall off away from five hundred hundred. Whatever it was? So you're telling me you don't know that song right now I don't know it. You're kidding me no. You don't know the Alabama fight song. No do you mean to tell me. You don't know the the seventy five times. It's funny because I saw him at the last Oakland Raider game and I've kind of avoided him because he'd be like do you remember her. Your kisses second album love gun. Do you remember side be. You don't know that side. I didn't know what he was going to come up with. Bless his heart. He's a great reporter but he did ask me seventy five frank. You don't do you. Don't move new moon. How can I know every damn song? I now now on Wisconsin on I know Notre Dame Phantom Pom Pom Pom Pom Pom. USC The is the only song we know so the only Song Ucla Stole Cal. Song we on the Gallivan. Yeah the CAL has that and they also have a fun of. But don't the you know that song we know a lot of D. H. O.. Idaho Idaho go. Go come on man. Oh will go with your heart true in Volvos little fall before your silver and your gold. The victory cannot be withheld from the so all bow down onto Idaho come unto vandals go. I D. H. O.. Do you want me to keep going. No I don't WanNa keep you on. I can't believe you don't know Alabama so so what are your memories of the Game Rick going on the field seeing the celebrations take pictures pictures of guys doing confetti angels on the field it was fun and something I never thought I'd get to experience and Steve Futterman. CBS snazzy by the way my favorite little idea at the end of any story is always. Jeremy Schaap this balloon. You you gotta practice that by the way. And that's why. He became the great as kicker in Division Two College History History Jeremy Shop this pin. I should end every show with Ted it all fourth boiling if I did that. Maybe I'd be bigger. That's all I'm looking for is more flu boone Wherever I go my whole life where are you from sports byline? The hell is that never heard of it. I used to work with this guy. Here named Steve He goes. It's this super this name. Who picked it? Why are we called sports fun? It's so stupid I hate calling people and telling US put bun my favorite ever story and I actually have the sticker in my office up on the wall. This is about five years ago when I went to Raider camp and I said you have my credential and they go on I think the Coliseum let me print you up a credential for the day and I'm like everybody knows me here and they're like I know but we should I go okay. Well I'm not GONNA play. Don't you know me. Sure I'll take contemporary one with sports byline. Let's that sports byline. Okay here you are Rick Tuttle. Two Words Sports Pylon because when you WANNA like setup goals do need sports pylons for sure but oh my all time favorite. Let's talk about the national champion. I was my all time favorite was I was invited by USF. I don't know about eight years ago. Go to checkout college. Boxing and I thought well you know what I'm not doing anything tonight. Mardi in the city I can go up to the hilltop and watch them college boxing and by the way it was horrendous. These these girls box than these guys box. They didn't know what they were doing but one was. I expecting Mike Tyson. I guess I was but they law look like they had never boxed in their lives. But it's still fun. But anyway they say me a ringside seat. It's the only time I've been. I mean I've only been to boxing once in my life. It was to see the Super Six and Andre Ward box of the calcium. And I was way back this I was ringside and I have this on my wall. That was a piece of paper from USF letterhead and it said Rick Title. Four words sports by the line. That's right sports by the line. I thought you were talking about Babbel's Sweeney Dynasty. Well we can get into that as well on the other side but we'll take a quick break and we'll come back route talk can't imagine this is your money and some one wants to take it from you. Who is it the IRS? They want your money and and guess what they can legally take all of it if they want. Remember they send you that letter that said hey a bunch of cash and we're going to take it from you so what. Oh you do fight back. By letting our team of experts at tax helpline work it out with the IRS. So you can keep your money and we're good at. What we you do? 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The knock-on Clemson all season of course as we know they haven't played anybody the s the SEC's wake league played. Virginia the champions the hell is that Syracuse. Oh No duke. NC state the East Carolina China. Pirates are coming to get you well. They did play somebody on Saturday because they dug out of a sixteen point. Whole to find a way to get a job done for fiesta bowl for all the ages and Dabo Swinney said I think we pass that test. So now you have to erase the haven't played anybody from pre-game talking points. You beat Ohio fricken state. What's even scarier scarier is that swinney now can sell the underdog car to the team? Despite the fact that has won twenty nine straight games we are on the verge of a seismic shift in the college football landscape. If clemson wins this game this is like you saying bolt at the Olympics. Sorry rest of the planet your second best at best who's going to be using bolt Nobody now is his. LSU A team of destiny. They have the largest margin of victory ever in heisman trophy history for their quarterback. He threw seven initiative seven touchdowns in the first half this to coach. Oh tell you about coach. Oh it ores. Iran says he drinks at Lea- Lee six energy drinks a day. Might be why. He's so sweaty. And I'll tell you what I miss this angie drinks so bad I had this thing I talked about on this show that time and it was like in the summer. I like almost fainted while I was on on the air and I was like pyramids against those energy drinks. I'm like now I don't know what that was like. Grab the MIC and as in my other job and I was like what the hell am I felt like all the blood rush. Astana my body. And they're like it's the energy drinks and I read everything online enough of them said that it was like you'd have a rapid heartbeat. You have this or that. None of them's that I said alright saw cut out the energy drinks luckily knock on what haven't had anything like that happen again but I miss them. It's socks just to get a regular diet coke and Diet Red Bull Monster that's gross or a Rockstar manned. Handed things is good so or Zahran six day like it but Lsu as they said magical season magical get to that in a second. But what else is magical hell's kitchen in Manhattan. So let's go there with Charlie. What's up buddy? Hey what's going on I was going to hold off on calling 'cause I don't i. Don't you know to be honest. I don't follow college football all that much. I I don't know if it's a regional thing This near Tri State area isn't really a big college sports area. You know maybe because every sport has has two or three teams hockey as the three teams. And it's like you know it's like here we're pro town exactly exactly so but I will like I. I'm a warriors fan. So when they stunk forever. I would follow the tournament and I would try to familiarize myself with players that worries stories potentially draft like the The Great Joe Smith John and the same with football so I I'll watch these but now that it's a playoff format I'll watch them. And especially the the receiver from Alabama Jerry. Yes I mean I assume assume that GRUDEN will I don't know if he'll be available at twelve but I would assume so. I'm watching it from with my raider glass as you know shades on I'm seeing who would raise essentially draft and obviously based on last year's draft. Mayock likes to draft players from Clemson. Oh you know from from the elite teams but So I wish I could be more interested in College Sports College football but I think from a very early age being obsessed success with the NFL Being watching football all day on Sunday. I don't know if I would have been able to do it Saturdays. He then Sunday's but with all that being said Love Gun by Kiss. I the first piece of vinyl ever gotten. Yeah my first favorite band and until they took the makeup often and Yeah I graduated but Anyway so that's all I got about I you know I'm just not really into the college sports. Oh you actually do have a question. Is there a cost of reiter related question. Should there's stuff online. I've been reading about this quarterback from Utah State. Jeff Love Right is I keep hearing his name attached to the radar Where someone had smoked marijuana but he's supposed to be Patrick? Mahomes six foot five six five and it just an absolute rifle rifle of an arm. So that's why he's so intriguing. So is that something you think. Gruden like if they do Draft him that would sort of tell you. What do you think about car but Right anyway all right rick. I'm listening show. Thank you Charlie. I appreciate the call Charlie out there in Manhattan in Hatton at eight hundred eight seven. Eight eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine and just to wrap up this whole thing and I said we have to wait till we have eight days for this game now but with Lsu's magical season and the fact that they can win this in the Bayou down there at the sill or my brother who is insurance and and this was in the ninety s he had a case of a windstorm down on the wheezy N.. And they had to send out a lot of people to Look at the claims and This guy's like my my freezer got blown out into the Bayou and he goes okay. We're GONNA reimburse you. What were the contents of the freezer freezer? There's three Turkeys There's about I don't know forty hamburger patties got it I think there is probably I. Don't I don't know maybe about two dozen catfish okay and out. I don't know about a dozen squirrels but that doesn't squirrels. What did you call Oregon now for eating okay? He writes down. Twelve squirrels L.. They eat them them. Squirrels is good eating them. M.'s good evening but it's kind of funny. LSU whenever time. I look at these prognostications I would probably say sixty percent of the people picking this game picking Lsu. And I understand why. How do you ruining? How do you pick against the team that won twenty nine straight games on the Clemson Tigers? It's that's GonNa be a good one in the big easy come back. The football and basketball seasons are in full swing to get into the game with our exclusive sports betting partners bet online dot. Ag Sign up today to receive your fifty percent. Welcome bonus on your first deposit to start betting college college or professional sports every spread every total every winter kept or losing straight bet parlay Ortiz. Your way through through the season you can bet on wild proposition bets. Like who will be the first head coach to get fired or who will win the NBA. Mvp Get the fastest to market odds updates and payouts with our new sportsbook party. 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You'd say well we'll take a look whatever but the name that really pops out that Taco fall is six most in the eastern conference with frontcourt players Taco Fall. If you didn't know he plays for the Celtics he barely plays. He's played in three games this year and he averages four points and two boards once once again. He's played in three games. This is the guy we talked about him in the draft. no-one drafted him. He helped central Florida beat Virginia Commonwealth than wealth in the opening round of March madness. And then they lost a duke but he became a fan favourite because he has an amazing name Taco fall and he's 7-foot-5 so he's definitely somebody that has gotten a lot of attention but just here are your top ten Front court players In the West. Uh Lebron James. Anthony Davis Leonard. Paul George Karl. Anthony towns kristaps porzingis colour Yokich. Carmelo Anthony Yeah Brandon Ingram and Dwight Howard. Yes once again. Dwight Howard guards and the last first Luca. Danni which James Harden Damian Lillard Steph Curry steph curry has not played in a long time Russell Westbrook de Ngelo Russell. Wow Donovan Mitchell. Alex Caruso who once again. Alex Caruso with the Lakers Devon Booker and the rookie jaw. Mirant are in there. Not J.. Jaw Shaw rant. Now in the East We already talked about Yeah we did the West so In the East It's a little bit different because you have the frontcourt players the Greek freak obviously over a million in votes by far the top vote getter Janta Quote Ball Joel. EMBIID who second. And he's about five hundred thousand votes less then Pasquale Hachem Jimmy Butler guard Jason Tatum Taco fall there. He is bomb. Tom Outta Bio Gordon Hayward Andre Drummond Democritus SA- bonus so the fans even in Boston Lana launch fall more than hayward he's played in three Games steph. Curry is even played more than that. The guards the guy who was traded for Yoka. Dodge a Don Shits trae young kyrie irving curious Liz on spillway Kemba Walker. Derrick grows. Yeah Derrick Rose Zach Levine. Ben Simmons Jalen Brown Kyle lowry Bradley Beal Spencer Dinwiddie by away for those of you who didn't know and I didn't know this until I went to colonial Williamsburg and there's a lot of Dinwiddie property and he was the guy that was running in Virginia. Jinya and how. How did he not gotten sick and died and been too old and dead? Everybody back there told me he would have been George Washington that are capital would be dinwiddie. DC and Seattle would be in dinwiddie state. No offense to him but Washington sounds better then dinwiddie would you want your capital to be tiddle. DC No probably not but once again. Is this a popularity contest. It absolutely is a popularity contest and I'm okay with it. I'm not the kind of guy who's going to say this is is a A disaster this guy deserved it and this guy didn't but obviously who do you WANNA see. WanNa see Luca Donncha to WanNa see guys like that if you want to see steph curry. Even though he's not playing all right we talked about The legacy that David Stern has left and The The League is going to honor stern with commemorative black bands on the jerseys for the remainder of the season. Referees will also have black bands as well and the black bands will be placed next to the team's Jersey advertisement which of course is an implementation nations stern opposed when he was a commissioner. It's interesting but the NBA's PR twitter account said today to honor NBA Commissioner. America's David Stern recognizes countless contributions to the NBA. All players and referees will wear a commemorative black band on the uniforms for the remainder of the twentieth nineteen twenty twenty. NBA The season including the playoffs and the finals. So look when you are in a sport for thirty years and you come in during bird versus magic and then you preside over Michael Jordan's reign and Lebron James Rain and Steph curry raining down threes. He's and making the Game International. I mean this was the the statement by Adam Silver David took over the NBA in nineteen eighty. Four with a League at a crossroads crossroads but over the course of thirty years as a commissioner he ushered in the Modern Global Mba he launched groundbreaking media and marketing partnerships digital assets and social responsibility programs. That brought what the game to billions of people around the world because of David the NBA is truly a global brand making him not only one of the greatest sports commissions all time but also one of the most influential business leaders of his generation. And yes I know An quote I read that quote the other day. I think it's important to remember and I think he did a great job choosing his successor. You know it's sort of like type. Various was such a horrible Caesar. He picked his insane nephew Guy Ias who was also nicknamed boot Deakins. which is what Khalid means? It means little boot. Imagine he hated that name by the way I am. I'm guy is Caesar boot deakins. You're so cute with your little boots like your father Germanacos. Because he used to ride around with his on the back of his Dad's Horse Dramatic Atticus in Germany on the campaigns and they'd have him in a little teeny centurion outfit with sword and the helmet and little boots and then like Oh look at little boots Colella so anyway he picks Caligula because goes way worse than the guy before me. Wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad pat. I know some people not everybody but some people say man. Obama never looked better than rain. Man George W Bush. We thought he was dumb. That guy was such a astute classy politician and we didn't even know one eight hundred eight seven eight point another thing to note football fans especially those of you in New England because playoff at foxborough looks like it's going to feature some classic like January New England weather the titans are coming in for that wildcard matchup and they're not going to battle each other at all because they're going to battle the weatherman the elements because they said it's going to rain all day but they say the winds at about fifty miles per hour and then it's going to start snowing. It'll be about thirty three degrees now. The Patriots are accustomed to playing in these type of situations and believe it or not. It gets cold in Nashville too. So it's not like the titans ends are coming from Hawaii and I think really the weather could play in Tennessee's hands because if the weather comes as bad as expected or talking more ground I'm game then you gotTa pick your spots when you WanNa drop back to pass and probably no other running back in the playoffs. Right now is more suited to that type of Environment Than Derrick Henry with Tennessee. Who by the way was on the Clark? I mean it was on the board. When the raiders around the clock and I said Hey we're getting the heisman trophy winner n Reggie McKenzie Drafted Jehad Ward Alad Illinois Annoy the next pick was derrick? Henry and I remember going to rookie camp and I was talking to a fellow journalist. And I said Man I really want to Derrick Henry instead of this Jon Ward Guy and this guy's like I don't like the way Henry runs. He's not going to do anything in the NFL. You don't like the way runs does he. He run backwards balancing the ball on top of his helmet. Because if he does that then I agree with you but otherwise I like him now. Here's the interesting the thing and I'm not making it up and this is why truth is stranger than fiction. The name of the winter storm coming in and yes it has a name and if you want to know how they named storms they just go. Oh through the alphabet. So it's winter storm Henry Derrick Henry Winter Storm Henry. Yes thinking about that now. Against the titans. In Week Seventeen Henry won the rushing title late. He went for a long run but he ran for for two hundred eleven yards. He has been a stud for the titans. He's got that sort of Brown beaver coming out of the back of his helmet. I don't know what that is psych half dookie braids half cotton candy. But over his past seven games. He's rushed for nine hundred and fifty nine yards six point three per carry eleven touchdowns and the Patriots have struggled against the run all year. This is why people see. Maybe a potential upset now as the titans looked to the possibility possibility of leaning on Henry. They should take some of the pressure off Ryan Tannehill who is Oh and six against the Patriots in Foxborough in his career. Now that's Ryan Tannehill. Mostly of the Dolphins Boa Tennessee. Tannahill has unlocked some of that untapped potential. Because he's played in ten games. They've gone seven and three. They've averaged over thirty points a game thirty nine total touchdowns five picks so and by the lamb starting Rick's pics here now. I'm telling you who's going to win and WHO'S GONNA lose. But what the Patriots. They're just naturally going to feel more comfortable in this wintry setting and while they don't. I have a running back like the Henry. They could go with Sony. Michelle Rexburg Hard Landon Roberts. I'm a linebacker. No now your fullback. Okay sounds good. But it's just that shocking loss to Miami in New England that you know they lost the first round by and you don't deserve a first round by if you can't beat the dolphins and they would admit that too but against Miami. They ran the ball pretty well. Hundred thirty I five yards on the ground five of pop so as it relates to Tom. Brady if the winds are making it difficult to throw the ball down the filled just go short and throw darts to Julian. Edelman you throw to James White and the flat and the hook as a screen. That's kind of his bread-and-butter Anyway right now he listened he's not going to be impacted and so I saw story that said in Killa Harry the first round pick out of Arizona state the wide receiver who took somebody going off his injuries but they said they might use them a lot of jet sweeps so he might carry the ball as well but which should also be taken into account is if the weather in Foxborough is truly nasty. That's just GonNa limit scoring opportunities and right now the over under is forty forty four and a half and it opened the weekend at forty three. It's gone up a point. You think it's going to go back down before the bats come in but Could be messy in this game. I'm picking the Patriots to win because I'm not going to proclaim the dynasty over just yet armored it'll come on I'm back if you or a loved. One is suffering from physical or emotional condition. That is left you unable to work then. Listen carefully take this number down. Eight eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one. That's eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one. When you call you'll speak with social security disability expert hurt and get a free evaluation to see if you qualify for disability insurance benefits from the US government? That's right a monthly cash payments. 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Keith they told Rick tiddle was selected at random from the phone book to host. This show all right. It's another hour to go open. Lines one eight hundred eight seven eight play. Hope you're having a good frizz night a rick's pics on the other side. I gave you one of them. Stick with New England. Right now Something that happened yesterday afternoon that we are expecting that is that Jason Garrett has now formally relieved of his post as Dallas cowboys. Head coach very disappointing season. Yet again. no word on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day but they have decided to move on Edward or of ESPN said after showing an abundance of Karen respect for Garrett Jerry Jones and Steven Jones have decided the coach will not be part of the organization moving forward and they will now enter the next phase to involve candidates interviews which will begin quickly now and Garett facing the end of his contract. You're you're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percent newsbeat. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions bution by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram service newscasts for January third twenty twenty Mike Clifford Iraqi state television reported fighting a powerful commander of of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps was killed in a strike on the Baghdad International Airport early Friday. CBS News is reporting. America was involved in the death of Major General Qassim Selemani The New York Times reports if confirmed the killing of the general would be a major blow for Iran and a major escalation for president president. Trump's maximum pressure campaign against Iran which began with economic sanctions but has steadily moved into the military arena. Workers Advocates. Vegas say that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo had plenty of time to request changes to a bill to help victims of wage theft but chose to veto the measure instead our Andress Caceres explains Senate bill s twenty four eighty eight b also known as the securing wages against theft or sweat. Bill has been introduced in the state state legislature several times in the past five years but didn't pass both houses until last June cuomo said he had problems with some of the legal provisions in the bill. The Mark Donelly who helped introduce it says lawmakers have been open to making changes. The Assembly Judiciary Committee did take steps to deal with some of the legal issues. Shoes in the bill was changed and so it's a little way to the day. After new years eve to veto. The bill is just outrageous and shameful in doing the bill. CUOMO's of the state is collected three hundred hundred ten million dollars in stolen wages since twenty eleven but its supporters say New Yorkers lose one billion dollars a year to wage theft. CUOMO says says he'll introduce his own version of the sweat bill in this year's budget and some faith leaders walked twenty twenty two year Oregon passes what they see as better gun control control laws more from Erica. Golf the group lift every voice. Oregon made up a leaders from different faiths has submitted three petitions for measures to appear on the November member twenty twenty ballot the measures would restrict the sale of semiautomatic firearms through Titan background checks. Raise the minimum purchase age from eighteen to twenty anyone and banned the sale of high capacity ammunition magazines one of the chief petitioners. Rabbi Michael Ghana says faith leaders addressing gun violence as a moral imperative in our faith traditions. We are told that we can't stand idly by while our neighbor bleeds means we have to take responsibility Lati- when there is a crisis as there is in gun violence in our country faith leaders including Kahane tried to get a similar measure restricting restricting semiautomatic weapons sales on the ballot in two thousand eighteen in the wake of the shooting at Parkland Florida highschool however that effort ran to legal issues the partitions or just a few of the potential measures addressing firearms at Twenty Twenty others pending review would establish a gun storage law this is. PS A state and national campaign led by AARP Iranian. The rising cost of prescription drugs is making headway and Wyoming lawmakers. Say they're getting the message. wjr especially from folks who live on fixed incomes Sam Chamois with Aarp Wyoming says. The median income for Medicare beneficiaries is just twenty six thousand dollars a a year and that doesn't go a long way for folks who on average fill four and five prescriptions. A month it's a very real pocketbook issue when you are having to make these hard hard decisions about whether to buy groceries or pay for your medication. That's a big problem and I think the frustration that these legislators are hearing some way points to legislation recently passed cast in Florida that would allow lower cost medicine to be imported from Canada. As one option Wyoming lawmakers could consider in the upcoming session. Big Pharma has argued that high I profit margins help underwrite their research and development costs which produced significant advances in medicine nationally. The US spins nearly twice as much on healthcare as other comparable all countries and high drug prices are a significant driver of rising costs. Chamois says the Stop Rx. Greed campaign isn't about discouraging continued research and development. But it's important to find middle ground that place where people don't feel like they're being taken advantage of and that the drug company executives are making millions and millions of dollars others and they're trying to figure out how to pay for their prescriptions at the federal level of bill to allow Medicare to use it significant purchasing power to negotiate with drug makers for Lord prices has cleared the House but has not yet been taken up by the Senate finally are Natty L. Ramleh gone reports environmental groups of public health experts are questioning coninck the EPA's frequent use of emergency approvals that allow farmers to use toxic pesticides the EPA reports last year it issued emergency approvals for use of pesticide that is known to kill bees on more than sixteen million acres senior scientist at the center for Biological Diversity. The city Nathan Donnelley's says in Tennessee. The agency recently green lighted use of too synthetic pesticides on sorghum and cotton fields and it's likely more approvals also be issued this growing season there's an exemption approval process carved out for true emergencies. EPA has been abusing this emergency the approval process and we believe approving uses. That aren't really actual emergencies. He says more than one billion pounds of pesticides are used each year in the united. It's states donnelly. Acknowledges there are situations that warrant the emergency approval of certain pesticides such as an influx of hard to kill pests and diseases that that can wipe out crops and financially strained farmers however he points out that repeatedly designating emergencies isn't how the system is designed to work. I'm Mike Clifford. Thanks for wrapping up your week with public do service. We are member endless to supported. And you'll find US online at public news service DOT. Org and welcome back to the show rectal with you. 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It lasts school year but baseball season every day. All the twists and turns INS and out winning streaks losing streaks was trade deadline's guys you didn't know who picked up midway and this year it's going to be a little different. A pitchers are going to have to pitch to at least three batters less than inning ends. You're going to have a twenty six man when the whole year you're going to have that will probably be either reliever or it's going to be utility guy. I would think fifth outfielder a fifth infielder third catcher maybe a third catcher. Some teams will. Do we'll see about that but it's GonNa be a little different and then September call ups to you guys. What September call ups who guys you might be getting rid of a lot of forty minor league games? I don't know it's GonNa get Kooky and Kooky thought so. We'll we'll worry about that. 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Let's take a look at the seahawks and the Eagles seahawks eleven and five. There are wildcard. They are two games better than the eagles who are division winners. So they get to host Russell. So Wilson a guy who will get MVP votes. For good reason. Thirty one touchdown passes five. He's thrown for over four four thousand yards. Four thousand one hundred ten. He has also run for three touchdowns three hundred and forty two yards on the ground. This guy does it all. He is a magician. He has two super bowls with one super bowl ring. Carson Wentz has never played on a playoff game despite the fact. He has a ring twenty-seven touchdowns seven seven interceptions and he's also thrown for over four thousand yards as well now. The Eagles have been playing. Must Win Games for for a month. They were four and seven and they needed to run the table and they did five in a row and the the pressure will not be new because many players on Philadelphia's Rosser faced during that super bowl run two years ago for the new guys they got the experience in December when any yeah those losses in the last four games would have eliminated them Peterson. The head coach of the Eagles said the last month. They have been playoff games for us. This team is battle-tested that way and we prepare that way then quote so the eagles they did claw themselves catala themselves scraps themselves into the playoffs. The seahawks enter on a two game losing streak because they would have clinched lynch the West and a first round bye in week seventeen but they lost to the niners before that they lost the card so on the bright side the seahawks were much better on the road as where the niners by the way they lost two at home and one in Baltimore last second field goal to the best team in football but the seahawks were seven one and they did play in Philly At thanksgiving time and they beat Philadelphia. Seventeen to nine now. Carol always always knows to give high praise and respect to the opponents they asked him about the eagles and he said quote they finished great. They know us. We know them. We game plan all over again and they do to quote Russell. Wilson personally is four no against the Eagles and that included a win in Seattle over the eventual super bowl champs in December of twenty seventeen. That's when Philadelphia was ten and one and they went to Seattle and they lost now as I mentioned Carson Wentz Miss that Super Bowl because of the knee injury. He also missed last year's wildcard win because of a back injury. So this guy finally gets that Franken play and knock on wood. He doesn't slip in the shower game day but he says we know what's on on the line and to some extent we've kind of felt that way the last few weeks we've kind of had our backs against the wall. It's a one game season. We're excited for it. It's going to be a fun one now. The return of quandary digs the safety for Seattle is a big boost. Remember the lions. He was a team captain after they traded him to Seattle Seattle had lost several players due to injuries the past few weeks we know about the running back situation more about that in a second but week fifteen gene digs did his ankle and when he came over from Detroit really helped the secondary when he's on the field Seattle can play more aggressive aggressively aggressively at a corner. They can pressure more corner. They can bump more because they know that digs is back. There and by the way digs is five games three interceptions fumble aw touchdown Bobby Wagner said quote. The moment he got here he picked up the defense really really quick started making checks really fast understanding tanning what checks we were making really really fast. He's a really smart intelligent dude. Who knows how to play the game of football at a really high level? Five really's in there. Now sorry. A seven release really really quick really really fast really really fast really high level. Thank you Bobby Wagner. Appreciate eight that but there are some unknowns because the eagles finished week seventeen without seven starters on offense wide receivers Sean Jackson. Accent all Sean. Jeffrey Nelson Agar out three time pro bowl. Right Guard Brandon books ebooks out Mile Sanders. Running back back is supposed to play tight. End Zach Ertz with the ribs and the back are uncertain as our Lane Johnson. The right tackle. They've relied on five players from the practice squad who combined been cut eighteen times. You bring in Boston. Scott on the board tied in Dan. Josh Perkins Wide Receivers. Greg Ward Deontay. Burnett and Robert Davis the three of those combined for sixteen catches. Let if you throw in the running back and tight end. They scored four touchdowns last week. But it was against the frigging giants so for the seahawks. It's pretty simple. And that's just protect Russell Wilson. He's been sacked twenty six times in the last seven games a season high six times by the Eagles in the first matchup and not surprising his passer fascinating and that game was in ninety point seven so protection has been an issue for Seattle and is likely to remain that way. Got Joey haunt the center. Who's been playing well? But but just in Britain the starter. ACL Out for the season hunt has been. He's an undersized guy. He's been bullied. And he's going up against Fletcher Cox Fox five pro bowls. dwayne Brown left tackle number. He had knee surgery. He's out George fant came in but if you play George Fan that prevents Seattle from using him as an extra time and you got the iron man. Malcolm that is the Safety Malcolm Jenkins. He has played in two thousand four hundred twenty consecutive snap since twenty seventeen you also plays on special teams Jenkins led. The Eagles with eighty tackles four forced fumbles two and a half sacks. He's all over the defense and that special team team wise. You look at the kickers. Jason Myers has missed five field goals this year but he's perfect inside the forty seventeen of seventeen. He has missed four extra extra points. Forty out of forty four remember. Those aren't chip shots anymore. You look at Jake Elliott twenty two of twenty six on Phil Goals. He has missed four for the last five games. He's only missed two extra points thirty five out of thirty seven. So what's going to go down in this game. I'll tell tell you what I'll tell you what. I Really WanNa pick the eagles here. I really really do. But whence doesn't have anybody to throw to. He doesn't have anybody to hand the ball off to now. We know. Russell Wilson has the hand the ball off probably to Travis homer who who is the starting running back marshawn Lynch was signed off the street. We know that they brought in Ronald Durbin as well. Two guys is born in Oakland. Turban I should say but I mean you could say well he can throw it. A toddler McAfee can throw to to decay metcalf. And that's to me is the difference in the game is that Russell Wilson has to capable young wide receivers and Wentz doesn't have a a lot of weapons it's in Philly so you gotta give phillies chance as well. We'll see I mean if the storms hit in the Northeast Boston. We'll see if it gets down to Pennsylvania Pensilvania to eastern PA Philly on the banks of the SCHUYLKILL and the Delaware. But I gotta go a Seattle in this game. They're just they're not just better team. I think there are way better team. I mean their losses to San Francisco Well loss they beat them in San Francisco in Santa Clara Lasting Phil Goal and they were an inch short from being the niners as well. The Eagles don't present that type of problem like I say the seahawks are better on the road. So I'm GonNa go go with the road team. SEAHAWKS are although I'll be rooting for the Greens. 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He's going to medal and white. Thanks the the only yeah. I saw Rick tittle at the laundromat last night and I was hello checking him out. I just kept staring at him and he played like a wasn't even there. I be like that then. Jeez Louise what is that all about. Roi One eight hundred eight seven eight play Rick's pics so so far patriots at home seahawks on the road we got a couple. More here. Wildcard weekend the Vikings and the saints meet again two years after that disaster for New Orleans is in Minnesota in that triumphant Miracle Case Keenum to the to the digs which is call him digs stefan digs eggs. Catch to shock the world The saints three-game better than the Saints and then the Vikings Saints almost had home field they. I almost had a bye but it didn't happen. Thirteen and three vikings tenants six the Dalvin and Alvin show is coming to the superdome in the stakes are very high delvin cooked. Running back of the Vikings Alvin Kamara running back of the saints their primed to be a very key. They're both very dynamic. is their big gainers on the ground there. Big gainers through the air and Sean Payton. Who Looking at Alvin Cook? WHO's coming back from a shoulder injury that cost him? The last two weeks of the regular season said this. He has extremely good balance. He's a strong runner and has outstanding speed. You Watch his countless fifteen to twenty five yard gains by him. And that's hard to do he'll have a substantial influence on Minnesota's offense. Then now Mike Zimmer it sounds like you could be talking about his own guy when he was talking about the challenges facing camera. He said he's extremely shift in the way runs. But he's a physical runner as well catches the ball out of the backfield runs. Good routes the thing that impresses me is is that not very often. Does one guy bring him down. He slips and steps up outta tackles he can go the distance it anytime ankle. Now Cook had the better. NFL debut who Gash The saints for one hundred twenty seven yards in that Vikings victory to open up the twenty seventeen season twenty nine nineteen and but cooks rookie. Rookie campaign of course was prematurely ended by a major knee injury and then Kamara blossomed into the offensive rookie of the year. Because of the Tony Seventeen he had gone for one thousand. Five hundred and fifty four yards and thirteen touchdowns from scrimmage but this season has been chimeras least productive because he's had Nike Nike a nagging knee and ankle ailments and that has sidelined him a couple of times as well mostly in the mid season seems to us Regained his form. Four touchdown runs in the past. Two weeks he's also a playoff veteran. He's playing four postseason games and cookies making his playoff debut and he's living up to that you know that potential. He showed a Florida state. Anybody who drafted him. He was a great college player. So fourteen games this season one thousand one one hundred thirty five yards on the ground thirteen rushing. Td's that's a lot fifty three passes for five hundred nineteen and when he plays as he changes the game and cook says he fills refreshed. He feels like he's in good health and And remember they have the same record as San Francisco Cisco and Green Bay but they lost the three way tie break and Cook said quote no matter what they did during the regular season new season new. Start everybody's going to be ready to go. It should be a fun match up so with Cook and the backup running back Alexander Mattison. I hadn't heard of him. The raiders play the Vikings and got thrashed by them in the land of ten thousand snaps that they had that game madison with two. T's not indeed. They're set to return from their injuries. And I'm feeling is back on track. He's been out for a while. So Kirk cousins should have his full complement a ball ball carriers and pass catchers for the first time in ten weeks. Phelan only took sixteen snaps during a seven game span because of his Hammy so I mean one one hundred yard game. This year had nine last year. So Kevin's defence key. WHO's The O.? C. Said we're excited it'd have feeling back as a part of this attack and we'll see how the game unfolds if a calls for a big day from him. I think he'll be ready but now there's another cook too. Many cooks spoil the broth. Now this time around. That was the Oakland Raider last year. Jared Cook who was a pro baller the saints time to try them and signed him as a free agent. Didn't start off the season Strong Lee a coveted free agent. The production has spiked and helping drew brees with his Record setting season seven touchdowns last seven games and brees said any one on one matchup. There's just not a guy on defense that's going to match his size you you always feel. There is a place where you can throw the football where he can get it and other guys can. Now I've been breaking down this game. I haven't talked about Michael Thomas yet. Ed who set the single season record for catches in a season one hundred and forty nine and he had an injury to his hand so cooks emergence combined with cameras greatness. And then you throw in Michael Thompson Thompson and Michael Thomas I should say there's a lot of options for drew brees but as I said you go back to the Minneapolis. Miracle Two years ago sixteen one. On your sixty one yard touchdown Dalvin cooked it and play with that in Domin Cook said it's one of those plays that's GonNa last forever. It's in the Vikings history and it was a great moment for this organization. Ms Ation they want revenge. Well yeah they do. Vikings tied in Earth Smith Junior who I liked and the draft. He has reached the playoffs as a rookie. Something father never did five years with the saints now. Irv Smith senior finally got there with the niners and ninety eight but Smith Junior. Set the Vikings Record for most receptions by a rookie tight end just thirty six but he has a good grip on. What's going on in his native New Orleans because he said it's GonNa go crazy ever? He was a second in round. Pick out Obama. No city shuts down during the Saints Games. Especially this playoff game so sat candidates Saints Exercise Exercise All these horrible football demons. Can they do it because next month will mark the tenth anniversary of breeze. He's leading New Orleans to Super Bowl victory and super bowl forty four. And if that's ten years reason company WanNa win another what better place then down in south Florida where they wanted in nine because between that loan Lombardi trophy and the one that they can get this time has been in a decade of playoff woes and sure other teams have been far worse the saints in the last ten years of one hundred games but they've had their hearts Don January by miss calls are blown tackles or a manmade earthquake because those ghosts looming drew brees said. The only thing I would say about it is that we have a lot of guys on this team that were here for those experiences. I think it says a lot about our group to be able to take some of those circumstances in some of those unfortunate things and be able to turn that into something positive and use that as fuel as a way to just bring us closer together and really fight through that adversity to bring out the best in all of us which is very nice of him to say all right we got a couple minutes left in the segment real quick. Let's go to Anthony Down in south Florida. What's up man? Hi Rick have a question actually would you. When it comes to hiring you first year head coaches would you rather have them higher like higher first year coordinators like they do They usually do or. Would you rather have a higher experience offense coordinator than defensive coordinators when it comes to something like that well what. I'd rather have coordinator. What was it? Choice coordinators and who will the first year head coach for example brand floors but he did was higher. I hear coordinators like he was the first year head coach. You rather have him in the first place higher hire experienced coordinators like defense or offence to do to help on not make the same mistake of same mistakes thanks growing with the offense. Accordion defensive coordinator that he hide from New England had never had experience calling place in general. So you're saying Would I rather have an experienced head coach who has called the plays or would I rather have a offensive defensive coordinator at the question. No Aw head coach would you rather have have him hire a first year Hay auto when you rather have the head coach. When he made the higher for his coordinators I see I see? I see what you're saying I have no preference. I just want somebody who gets the job done. Obviously someone who has a Coaching pedigree is going to be somebody that's going to be highly sought after Probably more than the young guy but everybody wants to be a kingmaker. They want to discover that a young guy. So as I said I don't have a preference. I'm open minded is a perfect example is a dolphin. I think that's what we made a mistake on. We brought he's guys who have never had experience calling plays in general We should have hired like a person like a Brian billick acres something like that the coordinator or a a Chan Gailey or something in the first place to help him understand your stand with the mistakes. He's making as a first year head coach. Kinda like Kokin through coaching. You understand what I'm saying. Yes I understand what you're saying and that's why I Chan. Gailey is now in their anthony. I gotTA run. I have a great weekend. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Alright lines are open one. Eight hundred eight seven. They've got a lot more time. Call me early in the segment. uh-huh in football and basketball seasons are in full swing to get into the game with our exclusive sports betting partners bet online line dot. 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Had to sell his Verion castle and they can see but that's exactly that's exactly what I would do. said thirteen mill. That's exactly what I would do if I had cash though is I would buy a Bavarian castle. I mean how can you how can you not right all right One eight hundred eight seven play. I've read also sent me this link you can get a Nicholas cage bedsheets. Nicholas Cage Aw clock and it's just his face behind the it's a bit disturbing but we're here for him. One eight hundred eight seven eight play all right so I need to give you my pick and I went to anthony there by the way lines are open up and actually call one eight hundred eight seven eight play and I picked the saints to win. What a surprise now we also have have one game left by the way so far home teams New England New Orleans? The news will win. What's in the news? The news is is the news and Seattle On the road in Philly but the bills will be traveling to Houston to ten and six teams teams. which is probably? I'm not gonNA say a snooze or matchup but when you got this Shawn Watson playing you know it's GonNa be good. And by the way the raiders on the last day of the season when I saw with the help they needed and they lost anyway like I predicted when I saw. Aj McCarron was GONNA start. I I knew was over in Houston and look you should never blame and other team like Phil Simms. That are the niners Loyd down like dogs when yourself. Don't get mad when I was a win for you. It's the height of weakness. You're supposed to be the team for us. All Right Josh Allen you know there was a kind of a polarizing guy wasn't a big Josh Allen Fan coming out of Wyoming. But he did this year. Throw for over three thousand yards twenty touchdowns nine picks and then you have to Shawn Watson. Almost four thousand yards twenty six touchdowns twelve picks on the ground. Single Terry is the leading rusher four for Buffalo. Seven hundred and seventy five yards in Houston is Carlos high thousand seventy yards on the ground but JJ Watt was a rookie in twenty eleven when his spectacular performance against the bengals led the Texans to their first ever postseason victory in franchise history and and the spotlight will be on what again when he's going to return to the field little more than two months after a surgery to return a torn pack. What tour in my chest? Ouch wondering about Quanta Alexander for the niners. He's got another week to rest. That helps for sure but what obviously is one of the great stars and he had a great first season in the NFL He was a guy coming out of college. And everybody was hyped hyped about. But he wasn't the guy the first round pick and Wisconsin but he really made a name for himself nationally in that playoff debut. The game was tied ten ten in the second quarter. Watt tipped a pass from Andy. Dalton grabbed it for an interception ran. Twenty nine yards for a touchdown and Houston never trailed again again. So when you think about that game and what was asked about it he said as a guy who's been here for nine years that the feeling is what I wanted to capture and magnify feel like not that we haven't had that sense but there was something magical about that and I want to create that magic again. The only way you can do that is by winning earning. There's no special sauce. You just have to win and quote. So yeah he's been out since October. How much impact does he gonNA have? Bill O'Brien head. Coach said quite a bit. Now this is a pass rush that ranked twenty six in the league just thirty one sacks but what and the Texans will face Josh talent. WHO's making his playoff debut as well and he said it's still the game of football? The dimensions are the same. We have the same plays is that we had in all year. We're not trying to do anything different. We got to go out there and execute. Well that's true but they've been waiting twenty four years. The bills have lost five astray playoff games since a thirty seven. Two twenty two win over Miami and the wildcard game and that was Jim Kelly at the helm then. They got crushed by Pittsburgh Pittsburgh next week. The playoff victory drought is the third longest active streak in the NFL. The bengals have the longest. They'VE NOT WANNA playoff game. Percents Ninety one. The LIONS HAVE NOT WANNA playoff game since ninety two so members of those buffalo's nineties teams remember four consecutive Super Bowl losses. They're in for the Bulls the bills to break that streak and Steve Tasker. REMEMBER HIM MR special teams with the dark helmet. He said Said we're all about these guys. We Love Them. We think they're great. The culture and feel around this building reminds us of it. Well the Shawn Watson is looking for his first playoff win and he played last year in the playoffs and he didn't play well. Twenty one to seven loss to the colts. He said we earn this opportunity. And it's real dope. No one in our locker room wants it to end and we'll continue to keep working and keep fighting fighting forward hard to try to improve and get to the next week and quote now. Yeah he's only in his third year but he's the undisputed leader of this team. He's the face of the franchise and he said that Carlos Hyde sent out a group text. That just said let's be great. I kind of like that but but bills cornerback. Kevin Johnson Rookie defensive tackle and Oliver. They have ties to Houston. Johnson's spent his first for years. The Texans and then Oliver who I wanted. One of the raiders again. Pick sixteenth in the draft He went to college at Houston. Three years with the cougars. So the call me with the Cougar and Oliver was asked about his homecoming. He said the most important part. And the most exciting part of playing in Houston right and is that. It's my first playoff game. So they said Hey. How about having all of family and friends in the stands he said doesn't matter where we play my fans and people can't can't come down on the field and helped me play as right as for Johnson he was a backup and he gets additional playing time with Levi? Wallis all this Hit a right ankle injury and he just said it's a good opportunity in the goal is to win the game. That's what my focus is so this one is not as easy to pick I'M GONNA go with the Texans at home if the bills were playing at home. I'd go with them. I really would. I think these teams are pretty evenly matched. There's no one I mean. Listen to Shawn Shawn Watson is going to be the best player on the field and they also have. Jj Watt coming back. And they're playing at home some GONNA give them. I don't like I said I don't know what to expect. Backed out Josh Allen. I think we're going to get something good out of did Shawn Watson some going with the home teams in all four games outside side of Seattle as the lone road team. The one eight hundred eight hundred seventy eight play once again. One eight hundred eight seven eight seven five up to nine just checking in with baseball for a second. I want you to remember this name. Also Scar Colossus or Oscar koloss whole loss as in give me a couple of coca-cola's Oscar Colas Oscar Colossus is regarded as the most talented player in in the world who does not have an MLB contract and that is because he had to defect from Cuba well according to Jeff Passan of ESPN and he has now done just that. He has defected from Cuba. Now you've I remember when Aroldis Chapman defected from Cuba. He went went to end Dora to apply for Sanctuary now colas must establish Bush residency as I said in that third country maybe on Dora for a fee. I think it's for a fee we'll be on the dock and again and then if V is he'll be unblocked by the office of Foreign Assets Control Remember Donald Trump says. You can't sign anybody from Cuba and he'll be like no no no. I'm now from Romance Dora. Now the Cuban government. It's interesting because yesterday when I was replaced by Don Larsen interviews. The second of two I did I I did one in twelve one and sixteen. We were playing it and I put on my facebook page that he'd be on Maury p Gonzales who is the longtime Spanish broadcaster for the as and the angels. I said when I was in Cuba I watched that perfect game in the fifty. Six World Series In Cuba anything about how hard it would be to get out of Cuba Pre Castro Astro during Castro and after Castro. Three different things obviously but a more AP. Of course. I had him on a pre game show. And he told the story about going to Charlie Finley and saying saying I'd like to do a Spanish language broadcast and he said I thought about it and I will let you broadcast the game in Mexican quote but the Cuban government grants some players to play in Japan and Kohlhaas has spent the last two years with the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks but he had not defected. He's a left-handed hitter. He hit three hundred twelve home. Runs seventy three games as a right fielder older He also plays for space and he played the entire season as a twenty one year. Old He is twenty year old he just turned twenty one. If you WANNA look at some video you can look at his very first at bat with the Softbank Hawks and it was a bomb. He has that same same sort of leg kick hesitation you often see by many Asian hitters. But he's more of a slugger than that. He is a two way player he. He reportedly has touched ninety five miles per hour as a left handed pitcher but he hasn't pitched in Japan. So the pitching hitching side of things could be a work in progress. Chances are he'll look up to hook up with an MLB team that plays in the National League but because he's only twenty one Koloss will we'll be subject to MLB's international hard cap system meaning. Once again we talk about this every summer but he'll be limited to a minor league contract and teams can only offer what they have left in their bonus pool so small market teams. Get the largest bonus pool about six and a half million. This is something that billy. Bean trades way almost every year and large market teams. Get the smallest bonus which is about a million last five point four so the international signing period opens every July second. Now as we know that's mid season that's when the hall of fame is about practically around the fourth of July but every club has spent all their money this this year so colossal has to get cleared and then he asked away for July second unless he wants to sign for five dollars so now now teams have to make sure their bonus pool money is there and then they can talk about any type of Bizarre low ball bidding war. But just there's something to keep in mind. A scar caused a coup Bah. Thank you To win this is an urgent health notice for all residents suffering suffering from back neck knee and wrist pain. You may qualify for pain relieving brace at little or no cost to you but the deadline is fast approaching simply call the health alert third hotline. Now you heard right you may qualify for a pain. Relieving back neck needs or wrist. Brace these items may even be covered by Medicare or your private insurance. The the health alert hotline is your brace company. 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John I wish you would try and slap Rick Kittles Mama's face he would clown you on some Weird stuff thank you for that and welcome back to the show. Emails Rickett sports BYLINE DOT COM email here from Jeremy Rick good show. Thanks Jeremy he says to a tug of Aloha should go back to Alabama because he'll make himself thirty five more million dollars being a top three pick After Lawrence and fields well yes list. Trevor Lawrence barring something bizarre will be the number one overall pick. We'll see about justin fields. And yes he'll make more money as long as he plays well by. I just think that you have a chance now to be a first round pick. You have a now. You'd I'd say poor injury history and you'll still make millions of dollars millions and millions of dollars and who would pick him. Think about all those picks the dolphins have three first rounders including number five overall member tank for two. They can get whoever they want but they can get to at five. He'll be there. The chargers are at six. The panthers are at seven and the Jags are at nine and twenty. The colts are at thirteen. The boxer at fourteen. The Falcons are at sixteen and then the raiders are at twelve and twenty. So I think your best bet out of all those would be Miami to take a chance on him but somebody will draft draft. I mean you can think about who the last time. The raiders took an Alabama quarterback. Ken Stabler and I understand you. Stay in school and I mean you think about Devon white who has the number five pick. He signed a thirty million dollar deal. And then Dwayne Haskins. who was the fifteen pick? Signed a fourteen million dollar deal. I mean I get that but if you have a chance to be a first round pick and you're banged up all the time. I think he got a jump on it. I said jump on it all right have a great weekend and remember. Will you back here nine. Am Monday We don't have brain damage. 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Pacific three eastern Sunday's re Pacific six Eastern. And yes I am back. Its usual any she to start the show but we are here every day. We got a lot to get into today. It is the Tokyo Dome Weekend and obviously we got a lot to get into their two Tokyo Dome shows which are starting this evening there is a show tonight and there is a show tomorrow. We've got a full lineup for both of the shows and obviously you can watch them on NJ WORLD DOT com tonight show plays into into tomorrow's show when tomorrow's show is over we will have the first ever double champion. Somebody is leaving with the I W cheapie heavyweight way title and the GP Intercontinental Title. The Double Gold Dash match is the main event for tomorrow. So we'll give you the full lineup for the show today. We've also got some interesting ratings. We have the it'll be we backstage ratings. which last week? The show was on Christmas Day and did a huge number. This week is show was on New Year's Day ended a horrible number. We've also got the w an annex t numbers. We did not have them until this morning. And it's pretty much everybody expected. Aws destroyed annex t annex T had a taped show and I thought the this show my two okay because show last week was also a taped show and the matches these takeover matches this week. Were stunningly great matches. And I figured that maybe there would be viewers on USA that had never seen the matches before and the great matches would help boost the number in fact that did not really happen. Five hundred forty thirty eight thousand viewers annex T to nine hundred and sixty seven thousand will give me more details here today as well and we've also got a bunch of other news news including how you can attend acuity with myself enable wrestlemainia weekend. We'll tell you about that. Text message is only here today if you want to text us for two five seven eight. Zero seven seven five. Six six Mike Zimmer. V Wrestling Observer live. 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Observer live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper on the sports byline broadcasting network show bring is here wrestling observer live reveal so wrestling observer dot com and got a lot to get into here today. So let's get going first off the ratings for Wednesday since everybody nobody asked her was a live. Dynamite versus a taped and exte- on New Year's Day and after a week off for Christmas Miss Awa returned nine hundred and sixty seven thousand viewers up forty two percent from the previous episode that aired on December eighteenth eighteen forty nine Awa finished thirteenth for the night on cable zero point three six rating up forty four percent from the previous episode. Also also the best number. Dynamite has done in that category since October. Sixteen and x t which aired a urine review show as well as the announcement assessment of the year. End Awards the team for the twenty twenty dusty classic and the three best matches of the year for xt five hundred and forty eight thousand viewers. You're down thirty. Four percent from last week zero point one five in the eighteen to forty nine demo dropping to sixty sixth for the night on on cable in that category number down thirty two percent from the Christmas night episode of Annex t also the lowest number of the show has done since it's USA USA network debut couple of notes on all of this here first off these numbers. I wouldn't freak out too much for the annex t number. I mean next week the shows are going to be both live. They're both going to be head to head. We'll find out where everybody's Kinda standing right now but two things that annex t number I mean I'm not worried about it but I did think it was going to be higher. I mean I was watching the show and I thought this is not a strong ratings show but I mean I thought the exact same thing on Christmas night about that annex t show and it actually was a decent rating shown granted there was no AWA head to head. But that's a pretty low number there now. The Awa number very good number number nine hundred sixty seven thousand. It did not have live head-to-head competition with wrestling but that rose bowl game fifteen point seven million viewers. That's a big number so they did have competition and they did a a strong number. It is interesting. Listen I'm not defending the the angle they did with the dark order but there were some people thought. The Sky was falling with that dark order angle and here we are nine hundred. The and sixty seven thousand viewers the show. I thought it was an excellent show. I guess we'll find out next week when two shows go head to head. My guess is that between the two who of them. They're going to do. Probably one point six one point. Seven million viewers total live. They'll split that between the two shows. It'll probably be fairly close close. And I guess we'll see who wins going into twenty twenty strong rebound for a w especially given all of the talk about the doom do of the company after that ordering angle and combine. They still did about what they usually do. In fact it was by believed their best combined total between both shows since they finished dead even December eleven seven hundred seventy eight thousand views apiece. They still got about one point. Five million people a tuned in and. I'll be very interested this here if it comes out about what the Annex T. DVR numbers are. Because I think they're going to get all of them where it is. I think A everybody that was going to watch Awa live for the most part did that and I think if I I think that just the mentality within exte- was it was skip abol will not because it wasn't high quality programming that they put on with a couple of bells and whistles or at least he didn't know what it was going to be at the time when they announced their awards winners winners. You didn't know how they were going to play that whole thing out and you saw what they did with bringing people out of an empty full sail and then presenting him the Ring Bell and everything which was fine fine except for there was nothing on that show that I don't think he knew going in you need you can watch on. DVR Could Watch later on the network. It wasn't that it wasn't that big of a deal well and I think he's just been things came down to even people chose aws. And I think it actually really means nothing other than I think. Maybe it's time to change how you do the end of the year show or how you do the compilation show and I talked and we talked a little bit about how shows and recording those and I think to do a best of show at the end of the year. Maybe those little passe. Now maybe if you're going to put a taped show up against your competition which could be doing live programming. You're going to have to mix it up a little bit and I think maybe showing matches from how shows they get rave reviews and things like that. Maybe you'd take that approach for the next time around instead of showing the best note from the year which is always available on the network all right so this person here asks the question. A lot of people have been asking today. has there really been any significant change engine the aws new Japan relationship during the past few days. Interestingly Dave on the Pacific Rim show noted Yuriko flew to Japan earlier than Moxley even when he really didn't need to Mosley's matches on the fourth while Jericho will wrestle on fifth. Here's what I can tell you about all of this. There has not been a significant change in the relationship. But there's been a minor change and everybody we're gonNA find out a lot more more tonight as far as Jericho going there early. I mean it could have something to do with him. Trying to negotiate something thing between a w and and new Japan but he's also there with his son so it could just be that they went to Japan early early to hang out. That could be all that it is now dave skits. He's there with Dave's kids as well. Now here's what I can tell you about this whole deal. So the two sides the two sides are let's see how can I say this On aside well no okay. So so a w has allowed new Japan to promote this tunnel. High She Jericho match using of the Awa Championship belt. Okay intellectual property so so Tallahassee did a Tokyo sports interview and he said if I beat Chris Jericho. I WANNA shot at the AWA title. Chris Jericho then did a response saying if you win I will give you a shot at the a w title now. Things have changed the point where Tony Khan and W are allowing new Japan to use the a w belt on the show now with all that said. I know everyone got very very excited yesterday after the Observer Radio Show came out but I still fully expect Chris Jericho to beat Hiroshi Tallahassee. I fully expect that nothing substantial is going to be changing in the next couple of days. Maybe the next next couple of weeks maybe ever but the idea that each side. I'll put it this way. There was a period where both sides it was cold as ice. It is is no longer cold as ice. The door is is cracked open to the point where aws allowing Jericho to come out with the belt and everything like that. But above and beyond that I still expected very very little has changed now. I said this a week ago especially with new Japan having being lost television here in the US and still wanting to try to run a a touring promotion here in the United States. They need Awa more than ever. Now if you look w numbers for Wednesday I mean. They don't need new Japan more than ever. They did. Five hundred thousand viewers. I'd say you know what they might need. We knew Japan more than ever honestly looking at that number Wednesday. I don't want to say they need less than ever. But it's not like an emergency that they get a working agreement with new Japan. New Japan right now needs Awa more than eight w needs new Japan and a lot of this. I mean hey listen. There's a lot of bitterness on the AWS side about a new Japan and new Japan has a lot of bitterness about a w but because of the whole situation with access TV. I mean things should change inch doesn't mean they're going to change and you know what it doesn't mean they're going to change anytime soon so we will see what happens. I mean there is a story regarding the access show and new Japan and impact. I mean impact wanted working agreement with new Japan and New Japan. Didn't want it and now they're off access. TV If they hit agreed to work with impact wrestling they probably still be on access but they would always be way down. Below impact on the pecking order on access says television so they made the decision not to work with them and now they have no. TV doesn't mean they can't get TV somewhere else doesn't mean they can't do a working agreement with a w at some some point but right now that forbidden door is cracked but it is swung wide open yet back in a moment observer life. Here's a great way to save money on your prescription medications. If you take Viagra I guess we can give you away to pay as little as two dollars. 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Working the show Brian Alvarez here wrestling observer live Mike also wrestling observer dot com in Tokyo. Dome yes okay. Can I say one thing here. We go back into the Tokyo Dome for something of what you said before the break about new Japan and in their relationship with aws and whether they should have one or not and all that stuff. I will say this what is kind of been forgotten about in anthem. Foam going ahead and buying access and presenting a proposal to new Japan about working with impact. That obviously new Japan balled up and threw away hey and walked away from the little. TV that they had with access. It raises the question. What have they been doing on American soil from a front office business point of view and there was great fanfare when they opened up their American office George Carroll was named one the liaisons and there was this and there was going to be that but just as much as we talk about. WWe American and foreign promotions having a problem when they go to Japan Dan. There seems to be a problem with companies coming here in trying to develop in work on things and trying to change their ways and adapt them to what works here as as far as style goes. And we've seen it with some of their tours which had been questionable and I'm very interested to know what exactly they've been doing anything the at all proactively in the past couple of years to do anything looking for new. TV options were whether they just sat back and thought that this anthem or the access accessing was gonNA run forever. That's the one thing I would love to find out about because they have swung and missed seemingly a lot when it comes to trying to really lay roots down as a business in America and we always talk about it going the other way whether it studied having India or wherever it is they happen to be doing business at the moment With New Japan see exact same thing and it's kind of been forgotten about in the fact that they've lost their TV here. Now everybody's talking about the fantasy booking who they could work with and should they continue to work work with our wage in aws and all that stuff but you know if they want to be self sufficient. What the hell have they actually done to? Really try to push that forward for themselves all right so tonight. The main Lina vent of this show Okada Bucci. I W cheap heavyweight title Jay White to see Naito I w GP intercontinental original title tomorrow night. The winners will face off to determine the first ever double champion and the losers will face off as as well and the winning loser is probably next in line for a shot at whoever. The double champion is definitely our will spray Hiroshima Takashi idle the GP junior junior heavyweight title Lance Archer. Jon Moxley in a Texas death match match can only be one be a ten count. Knock out or via submission. Man is good progressing going on there to go ahead and also the guerrillas of destiny versus thin juice finches juice Roberts talent I want David Finley tomorrow. The title matches we have got the bullet club versus Punky Three K.. For the AWA GP Junior. You're heavyweight title Zack Sabre Junior versus Sonata for the British heavyweight title. We have got a match with juice Robinson for the United States title. We've got Kenta versus rookie Goto for the never open way title. We have got to the Okada Bucci loser versus the White Naito Loser and then Tallahassee versus Chris Jericho that is tomorrow night not tonight and the idol GP heavyweight champion versus. The I did she be Intercontinental. Champion in the Double Gold Dash match for both the GP heavyweight and intercontinental titles. Mike who is leaving leaving with both belts could see your NATO and in fact you could see at the end and of night number two L. I. J. standing there posing with every single last championship belts very possible. Adam Summers is predicted that on the atom by big audio nightmare prediction show up for subscribers up at F W ONLINE DOT com. That's how I think it's going to play out Naito. NATO is right now it is the right decision to make right now. A bushy loses nothing in this j white loses nothing in this and certainly Okada loses nothing. Obuchi time is going to come. Jay White is going to be. There's a thorn in everyone's side for a long long time than we know where our cod is at. We've got a story to build with a Bucci and Naito. It's time right now. That's all I think it's coming out of this with the belt and I think you gotTa really interesting interesting story that you could tell with Bucci if he wins the title title which I think he will I think he and I it's possible. At least that he could win that title and Cohen and lose to Naito where there's a story story to be told where Bucci won. The junior heavyweight title had to give up to injury. I think he had to give up another title of due to injury to. He gets his big contract with new Japan Dan. He's finally a a Solo Act. He's not split with anymore but he lost his friend in the process of that who goes on and went to go work behind that forbidden door so for him to win the either. BGP TITLE LOSE IT AND HAVE IT slip out of his hands tonight. Oh there's a way you could tell that story if you wanted to have a Bucci win and beat Okada and then go onto the next night now. I think that's going to be. That will be interesting if they decide to do that. I think they'll take the more traditional path and Avocado win. But I think if if you want to mix things up a little bit and tell the story of a Bucci Naito. That's where you are going forward and I think that's the plan that they're going to have. I think that could be a very interesting way to do. It says who is actually confirmed. The Jericho is walking out in the Dome with the belt. Not just a hypothetical title shot in the line that might be mentioned on commentary. I don't know going to the ring with the belt on. I have no idea but he. He made his video holding the belt that we all saw when he was getting on his private jet and new Japan posted that video. So if a w gave them the okay and they posted a video with with him holding the belt and that's part of the story line. I actually would be surprised if he didn't walk to the ring with the belt on. I don't know for sure that it's going to happen but I think he is. I presume zoom he is. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. They will no before then. But I think that's what's happening you ever heard of mid Atlantic championship wrestling. Never I heard a small indie. Sure you haven't. I'm sure you've heard of a guy that does a podcast that guy loves storytelling and loves bases get covered when you have to tell a story when you have unique situations and you have that with Moxley and with archer and with juice Robinson because of that Texas death match you know this is the one that's kind of getting forgotten about all those was a w Taco in our town of harsh with Jericho. You Got Moxley there. And you got Moxley Archer who's had a great year. You know there's a chance you know they'd conceivably archer could get the win now. I don't think that's going to happen. And one of the reasons why is is because you got juice Robinson there and the guy that took the belt off juice. There's gotta be come up for this juices. This is one of your young stars one of the stars that you're trying to build in America with and you actually have your competition in America. You have really one of their biggest stars and and you have that story. That's going to be played out and be told and I think we'll end up with juice retain winning the title from Jon. moxley coming up on ninety two but you also have the story we're being told at least from a w side or from Oxley side that hey this guy had to face a wild man in a Texas death match and he was exhausted going into battle with your guy so that situation could be set up one one and actually have a future match with marceline juice down the line and I think they had done some nice things and building up that matching and kind of covering all their bases. That I don't know at least I appreciate. In an era where there's so much sloppiness in so many open holes when it comes to that stuff. It's nice when things are are all hemmed up all the ts across the nicer dotted right. This person says they advertised Jericho being on the new year show but he left early for Japan instead. Why would he w let let them take TV off unless he was doing something for the company in Japan may be speculation? But it's important thing to consider it's also something thing you may be reading way too much as it's something to speculate about repel to what he was on the show. Yes it was a pre-tape but it was not billed as a pre-tape it was billed as being being live. They pretended like he was in the parking lot. I mean he was on the show he was out there and Shad Khan seven hundred fifty thousand dollar car of Sheh so actually I the the actual price of the car it was like the price is right. Jericho claim millions of dollars. I claim to half million and it fell right in the middle. Seven hundred fifty thousand awesome dollars for that car one dollars. He was on television. It made sense building up to next week's live show. Everything's fine. I don't I don't think you should read too much into to him. Not being there this person here says how would you and mike feel about Jericho. Interfering the Texas death match tell Moxley win to convince him to join the inner circle. Well you could do that but I don't think it's going to happen that's it. I think if there was a working relationship maybe but now our were traipsing into a little bit of like okay. This is slow down now. We're not broken your angles on our show too much here. We got our anti WFAN here doing doing his usual text message. I am having a hard time. Understanding what was so different about dynamite this week in comparison to the previous three months overly long choreographed matches with little selling minimal promos typical production issues fifty fifty booking. What show are we watching? What's your where we watching? Now Alan Darby I mean what. What was the fifty fifty booking that we saw here the Kenya? Meg actually got to win. Because the whole story line is the elites trying actually win and they all won their matches his there were plenty of promos on the show. I didn't see any production issues. The there was not one match. The was too long everyone sold. Are you telling me there was minimal. There was little selling. Did you watch the cody match. We sold his shoulder for the entire match in a play into the finish Outta here goes into another show. Would you wear them pages shirt. I even know what it was. What it say didn't say anything? It was just kind of like that. We're design on the The Button Denim shirt hurt. Headwear anything you see me point. This person says check Jericho social media pretty sure of the reasoning. Miss Dynamite was because he had a ceremony to renew his vows vows with his wife. That was very yes. There's that there's that as well as families there I is. I watched w live with my wife that it was an excellent show with focus on their top stars looking forward to going to aws revolution back. In a moment with more wrestling observer live football and basketball seasons are in full swing to get into the game with our exclusive this is sports betting partners that online dot. Ag Sign up today to receive your fifty percent. 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Live makes him reveal wrestling observer dot com that last fellow there said he couldn't wait to go to revolution. Who here is going to Wrestlemainia this year? I'll tell you who is myself and Dave Meltzer in fact coming to you on Friday of Wrestlemainia weekend Friday wrestlemainia Weekend Tampa Florida in Ebor city. It's a special live edition of Wrestling Sling Observer radio with myself and Dave another live mailbag as we've done in the past going to be recording a Q.. And A. Session featuring featuring your questions about anything to do with wrestling. MMA or anything in between will have a one hour pre pre taping meet and greet with myself and Dave be selling a limited number of wrestlemainia group tickets. There's only a few of these left so you can sit with a group of subscribers to the website and all all have fun sit together drink eat watch wrestlemainia so always a fun time that block mean greed is GonNa GonNa start at ten. 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We hang out a great time once again. This is the Friday. Hey before wrestlemainia and tickets are going fast. We have various packages. We have packages where we can. Just get a meet and greet ticket and the QNA we have packages for just the QNA and we have the meet and greet the QNA and the wrestlemainia ticket in the affordable group section. All of these are available effort. W MANIA DOT Brown paper tickets dot com so join US Russell. meany weekend it will be a lot of fun. I did not think at this day was ever GonNa come but it has twenty. Nine thousand. Nine was the year where like every everybody like just went crazy. They they said crazy things on social media. We had crazy to believe fans. We had crazy AWA fans everybody's defending pending this everybody's defending that everybody's talking about how this is going out of business. That is going out of business. I should mention by the way that when the show went on the air during the news. The news period of the show. It was noted that this year's NFL season at twenty one thousand nine NFL season was the most watched NFL season. Since two thousand sixteen viewership was up ten percent since twenty. Seventeen so for those of you looking at the raw ratings being at all time lows and saying well I st- TV's in an all time low. It's it's all these. Nobody watches television anymore. Well that's not the case the NFL is having its most watched season since two thousand sixteen and wwe is having its least watch season ever so anyway. This year I honest to God. I thought there's been a lot of craziness between the WFAN's Awa fans all these these just crazy people out there. I never thought I would see the day where the NFL season and ended the ratings went up like they do every year when the season is over and I actually have people saying it. It wasn't because of no football it was because of the wedding. I've been reading it now for two days. What's going on the people? This happens every year on this same week. This happens now. People think it's because of the wedding was funny about that. It's not even like the third hour was the most watched. Our the third hour was the least watched our the Our with the wedding did the worst of three hours. And I'm still being told that the reason that the rod number was up was because of the wedding. It's not fool these people. I'm not fooling with anybody. I'm just flabbergasted like this is a new one and actually it's knock is. This does happen to a small degree every year. But I figured by now the people would know what's going on in September the ratings. Go down when the football season starts in January the ratings go up when the football season ends. What are we doing being here? There's always been insanely stupid and unreasonable. People they just now have a chance to invade your timeline. When you put up numbers you know what I'm saying? It's it's a seventy looked at a communist in weeks nor should you save that for you to go there either. I says I know you don't follow Sports Brian Brian but in my opinion the reason the NFL ratings are up is because they've made new stars the Mark Jackson Patrick Mahomes he's Mahomes. You guys have become stars in the last year and a half. Yeah it's all about making stars. Hello W we can't make stars there are at all time lows the NFL's making stars. They're doing the best number since twenty sixteen. This is not rocket science here. I WANNA see. It's as simple as that. They look people said they were going to turn off football field this or whatever reasons that they had for one attorney is watching football by the way young people the ones that I keep being told don't watch TV anymore. The more likely they will watch TV if there's something on TV they want to watch with stars they WANNA see. They'll even play the video game while they're at it too. Oh you can't do that with wrestling eater. Kanye Nia. Is there any update on that or people able to play the video game now. Yes okay yes you you must you must restart everything in the patch will automatically weekly dental. Yeah so if you didn't hear so it's actually funny now. The W E two K twenty video game I mean it was already like the glitches game ever for everybody hated it. The new E. and it's called W E Two k twenty. Okay for those of you. That are too young sprawl. Oh you lot of you. Twenty years ago. The reason that Chris Jericho called himself y two J is because when we were moving over from nineteen ninety nine to two two thousand there. Was this concern that there was going to be this. Y2K Glitch in all of these computers. And this glitch when the calendar ruled over from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand was going to destroy the world quite that bad but like there were some people that Oh my God is all everything everything is just going to be mass destruction. Okay so the clocks which over and nothing happened for the most part okay. Well they are here. We are twenty years later and to k twenty switches over from one thousand nine hundred twenty twenty and the whole game stops working with a why to clay. I'd add. Y2K GLITCH IN W game. Twenty years after Y. Two K. thankfully. It's been fixed so now you can get all your glitches again. Sad just amazing amazingly could be a product that shoddy again I still everybody's Buddy's still blames everybody else seemingly amount one. I know everybody was pointing back at one point towards the wwe in rushing it out and this and that but my God like this was a breakdown seemingly on every possible conceivable level other than the commercial that they made to hype the Damn thing which is actually pretty good all right also tonight. We've got smackdown back down. If you want to get a preview of wrestle kingdom you can watch smackdown here tonight we have got Bailey and Sasha versus Alexa in Nikki Versus Lacey the Evans and Dana in a ripple match a triple threat women's tag team match. And we've also got Roman reigns and Daniel Bryan teaming up to face Bayern Corbin and Dull Ziegler. You realize like a little while ago here on this show we were talking about Dana broke. And you're training defender said Dude I got stats and I listed off every single match lost which is literally every single one of them except one and this led to people people on the Internet writing. I'm not talking like unsocial. Talking stories on wrestling websites rumor smackdown star basically enhancement talent. So what that's the depths. We've fallen for news because nothing's never mind the story for different day. I also have Keith lead. Dominic Jakovic Damian Priest and Cameron Grimes on an xt Wednesday. Yes keithly Dominic de Jakovic back back facing each other again four way winners the number one contender to roderick strong North American title. And quite frankly if he's not in the title picture which which he's not he's not being called up anytime soon which I actually don't know I mean Keith. Lee should win this match and he should win the title and the story. Go with this guy. Hi It's like they do with the Rear Ripley. The guys hot go with it. That's the big lineup. There for an exceed RS Quebec to the text messages. Here if you want to text message. Four to five seven eight zero seven. Five six six spurs in says a Bucci Naito or both thirty seven Senate. NATO has held the belt winners of Bush's time. If not now it could be June first off. He doesn't look thirty seven. And let's twenty seven so it doesn't matter it was he falls apart and according to him it feels great yes so yeah token win this weekend and a boo. She can beat him in June. Or whenever it's it's not the end of the world if he doesn't win no no and now is the time for ally tonight and the people have been saying it for NATO for the past couple of years and yeah just physically. I'll say this too. It's not like Bush's any great shakes. Yes but he's also not night. Though in just the way the arcs of their career throw their ages out the window just with the arts of their story new Japan where they're at right now. I would say it's more night those Ios time than anybody else's there all right so this person says. Are you telling me that the year the game to k twenty was titled After cannot be played in that year ear to k twenty could be played into Kate. Nineteen but not to k twenty yes. That's what happened in fact that was one of the quick fixes. At first. They said which was. Go back and set your time or back acting to the last year the fix it. Is there a Kushida character. Person says there were some odd you issue on aws. Mostly the music was too loud in the Mikes were not loud enough. I didn't notice any Baker segment. That was horrible. That was terrible. which is in there? Yelling at Rio was awkward. Awkward backstage was supposed to be awkward. She Watch Inter he interrupted an interview segment. Oh so bad but it was everything about. It was awkward. Rios Reaction Knock because I was saying he was discovered by the way look at Nakazawa standing there backing what happened to that guy. That's never even thought about damn right. Poppy up Michael Nakazawa. He just disappeared into thin air. Maybe talk to even get him. Nakazawa got the ability just to disappear now at this point but yeah so that happened in the bumper music was played up over that it happened at least one other time in his wall to wasn't as bad as it's been in prior weeks but in a bad segment worse expresses. I can't fathom anybody carrying tonight smackdown due to wrestle kingdom I myself I'm taking can a break before the two nights well. You'll be surprised on Monday when we get the numbers. Actually tomorrow in it'll be two point four million people watching that smackdown for wrestle Cardamon. I gotta be honest so probably will probably won't be talking about on Sunday either. Why I'm talking about all of this tonight? I bet you you are for says. Maybe if Code Bucci wins the world title title Anton How she loses Kodak and challenged Jericho to determine the real world champion. I wouldn't expect that to happen buddy. Don't get your hopes up for that one although. Oh you know what Brian that could be a bold prediction. Working People actually give bold prediction safe. Who wanted him to well? The prediction show. Everybody is going to be on Monday on Mondays. Wrestling Observer live it will be the prediction. Show we'll talk all about wrestle kingdom in new Japan on Sundays Observer live so that's at three Pacific Six Eastern on Sunday. So we'll give you the full rundown their of everything and I'm sure there's going to be a million shows on the website talked about the Tokyo Dome. Monday is going to be the big prediction. Show Day you can call the sports. byline you get one prediction. We'll take predictions for the first forty minutes final twenty minutes. We will read last year's predictions and crowned on my self. I expect the Grand Prize winner. I win. There's a winged eagle on the line. If you win there's not back in a moment was over life the what a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then call. That's right it. Call the low cost airline travel hotline now for prices so low. We can't publish them anywhere. Low Cost Airlines has all kinds of cheap travel deals fly domestically and save up to seventy five percent. 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This person says speaking of football ball because I am a football analyst. Now do you think the XFL has a better chance now that arena. Football has shut down or is it proved it ends Cillari. Football League can't worth today. Well as a football expert I shall give you my expert opinion. We actually already answered this question earlier in the show if the XFL bell can create stars it's can succeed if the XFL is just second rate football after the main football ball season is over the folks that people don't care about and or have never heard of now. It's not going to do very well. That's it that's just the way things go arena. Football shutting down will have nothing to do on the XFL's success ultimately what it will be is of course as you mentioned making stars stars and getting TV viewers initially creating fans of which they have none right now and can it help any of those players springboard on which will also help nope interest in the league from a football point of view all to be determined beginning February eighth. I believe it is and finally Hamish. Here can't believe his ears. There's no way he says people are saying the wedding was good and drew viewers. Oh Hamish your incorrect. It's mostly the Vince Russo. Fan Base. Who are trying to tell me that this is? What's what's GonNa draw casual fans and it's the best thing is done in a long time human mind again? It was still the lowest rate at the show on a week that the rating bumped up due to the lack of football but there is no arguing. There's no arguing these people don't waste your time right a time. Everybody enjoy wrestle kingdom. uh-huh night one and night to talk about it. Here on Sunday would have a million shows that wrestling observer DOT COM big audio nightmare observe radios and so much more so check those out and we are out of here. I think Mike is always callers. And listeners made man Scott everybody the studio talk to you next time. A wrestling observer live the newscast January third twenty twenty Mike Clifford Iraqi state. Television reported Friday of powerful commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps was killed in a strike on the Baghdad International Airport early Friday. CBS News Reporting America was involved in the death of Major General Qassim Sulejmani The New York Times reports. If confirmed the killing of the general would be a major blow for Iran and a major escalation for president trump's this maximum pressure campaign against Iran which began with economic sanctions but aesthetically moved into the military arena. Workers Advocates. 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We are told that we can't stand idly by while our neighbor bleeds means that we have to take responsibility when there is a crisis as there is in gun violence in our country faith leaders including Hana tried to get a similar measure restricting semi semi automatic weapons sales on the ballot twenty eighteen in the wake of the shooting at Parkland Florida highschool however that effort ran into legal issues the partitions or just a few of of the potential measures addressing firearms twenty twenty others pending review would establish a gun storage law this is. ps a a state and national campaign led by AARP Iranian. The rising cost of prescription drugs is making headway and Wyoming lawmakers. Say they're getting the message especially especially from folks who live on fixed incomes Sam Chamois with Aarp Wyoming says. 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So we're at midterm technically in the legislative terms although this is an election year so oh all all the senators are in congressman. Get sworn in in three hundred sixty six days from now. American can general George Washington defeated British. General Charles Cornwallis at the battle of Princeton on this date in seventeen seventy seven in eighteen. Twenty Three Stephen F. Austin received Steve Grant of land in Texas from the government of Mexico. And it would be eleven years later that the government of Mexico would slap him into prison Henry W Bradley Patented Oleo Margarine. You know on this date in eighteen seventy one Marvin C stone patented. The drinking stri eighteen. Eighty the eight and the first use of the word automobile on this date in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine in an editorial in The New York Times English Explorer Howard mccarter discovered this sarcophagus of tuten common in the Valley of the Kings near luxury Egypt. 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Thanks for tuning in on this Friday edition of Classic Radio Theatre from January third nineteen fifty fifty four sixty six years ago today Jimmy Stewart as the six shooter James Stewart as the sexual Off The man in the saddle is angular and long-legged in his skin is Sunday Brown the gun in his holster gray steel and Rainbow Mother of Pearl handled unmarked people call them. That's six the NBC. Radio Network Presents James Stewart as the six shooter a transcribed series of radio dramas based on the life of Brick Poncet the Texas plains men who wondered to the Western territories leaving behind a trail trail of still remembered legends Fifty Yard Kanye coach. Probably there was another name more official written down on a map territorial capital but the people around smoke ball just all fifty. What can you say? It was only fifty yards wide someplace even now. Thirty five miles long and riding truck was they are like riding the giants slabs grant all colleagues from smooth the way graves except that slager slager person half-mile anyway. That's what we were coming into. Scott made trails smoke. Clause reject gotten on Tord daybreak and the sky was kind of oatmeal gray. Heavy weapons waiting for the sun to come up to stirs lightning Ron Sharpe. Van Scarves flared nostrils and slow Donna. Walking what's come on Canyon got a little little wider up ahead sides angled up somewhat gentler than usual. I saw some trees and some skate still through dark to Santa. Got Off scars fast like a dive out of the saddle. Hillary the shooting that I couldn't make him I just a shadow partway up the Canyon Wall. Maybe thirty forty feet is gunfire gave me a pretty good notion of aim for a couple of minutes. Everything's real quiet. I didn't stand to reason that I'd hit him that shot. It's my way across the floor of the Canyon. Startup beside the rock right foot left my face and he knew who I was all right but then I had a pretty good notion of his whereabouts. toolkit take on a man's entitled the lucky hit every once in a while. If he wasn't faking that yeah that's like there was only one way to find wind on all right all right come on grabbing. Okay slid out of his hand. Search leave a stain pink. The elbow twisted around. Give me a squint. Then the son's swung up over the top of the canyons spilled over the sides all right. Hey Art hamper just think you holy Mackerel brick will be doug on just about the last person in the world. I've expect a bump in out here while you sure we're expecting to bump kinda something. What's the trouble art gone on for? Somebody's gunning for me Clydes Dead Brit Clyde last few shot yesterday the morning shot in the back. Well what do you know who did it. And who the sheriff says that it make what he thinks. You killed your your own brother stepbrother. Clad me weren't real kin but we was as close as if we did have the same. Yeah well speaking about our that elbow. Your bullet only only grazed me. I'll time abandon around. Better let me give you a hand. The sheriff at the idea you had something to do with clydes men shot. That's that's kind of a roundabout story died a couple of months ago. Oh I didn't know that I'm sorry. I sure wow how to take care of your off time. In fact well in his will pile of things equal have to me and have to Clyde folks folks got the idea that him being my father not clydes well they thought I was Kinda put out by clouds getting the same as me but you weren't Oh of course not bread. I didn't have no complaints. Clyde was as close to pas I ever was he was entitled just as much hard. Clyde having to get shot I I don't know I just don't have anything in the world if I did you. You said yesterday in the morning about seven o'clock I was in the bond hitching up the buckboard. I heard somebody at the pump outside. Figured it was Clyde drawn a bucket of water and I heard the gun. Go off I started for the door but before I could get there. Clyde stumbled into the burn was holding onto his belly and he fell forward into my arms. That's the way Dad Brid my arms. He didn't say anything. We tried to talk but the words just wouldn't come out. He tried to tell me who shot chatting but just couldn't find that bread. Someday I'll find out I get even instead blaming me. Why Sheriff Looking for the guilty man way and he going after the real killer? You're sure the sheriff does blame. You rearrested me yesterday afternoon. All can take coming into town but I give them. The slip sewed up into the canyon. Now you shouldn't have done that art if you're innocent you'll get a chance to prove it around the way they just makes you look guilty. I gotTA prove anything. The thing dangling from the branch of a tree what what are you talking about. It was GonNa Lynch me George Crompton Sam vividly and the other fellas where the sheriff and he wasn't going to do method. Stop him he said hanging was better than I deserve. You don't know sheriff they'll bring it must be new to smoke for you. Don't believe in wasting time with trials thousand juries. I wouldn't be the first man has let the boys take care of high. Say That's why I had to get away move. I knew I couldn't run too far for that. Catch up with me out here in this canyon while they are Kinda boxed in but I figured today or so on the Fellas it cooled down. Listen to reason. Maybe they'd even pick up the real killers trail for them. I thought he was one of those policy when I heard your horse. That's the reason fired. I wasn't aiming to kill anybody understand. Brit just just opened scare your your Even so it's seems like to me. It's not a good chance of making things worse for yourself. You've been act and you're not saying that a man on has to sit tight and let himself get land but it just what are you can go to go grid. Wow I don't know I'm riding a smoke falls are we could ride along together. If you'll give yourself up that oughta be something on your favorite or yeah. Yeah I guess you're right horses starting to go lame. I couldn't go much further anyhow but the truth. Brigham scared scan. They had a rope. George crump was carrying it with an sheriff arrested me and the way the phones look their eyes half closed and their faces. Read Sorta like the head of fever fever. I ain't never been coward Brit but I was scared though I like you said they probably cool off by now. If there was some way I could just be sure in Britain. Maybe I if you talk to them. I talk to what before I give myself up. They must be following me. You're bound to run into him on your way into town. Ars Plus they'd listen to you. They respect you and they'd have to listen. Even Cherif bail must have heard about the six shooter. You could tell him that I never had nothing against against Glamorgan in new. We always friendly. Even when we was kids are sure. Well you'd make the sheriff understand the boys with them. Well then I'd feel better about going back into town bridge you right on ahead. They can't be more than than an hour or so away. Tell him tell him. I'll give myself up. Tell him to wait for me. Ah Squirrel Rock. You know where that is. Don't yeah yeah we'll Attila. Tell them meet them there at noon. I I don't know I. You don't think I'd run out on your bread. You don't think I'd do thing like the head all know law right. Then Scroll Rocket Neum. I'll give them a pony time. The rest up well Afterwards well after. I'm all straightened out with a sheriff. We'll find out who killed Clyde. You have me find out I'll help. I can't art art. Thanks bread there's just one thing I suppose I don't meet up with a Pasi. Could very well miss them here in Kenya. Maybe they've turned around around. Maybe I've gone back in any case I'll be at. Scroll rocket noon if the Pasta ain't there you wait for me. Just the same are going to smoke falls with you all right. I know what you're done right. Let me saying it's ten o'clock in the morning when I passed Iraq the other three men on the lead gave his Kinda. This burned product ahead of the other. Two he's a good sized man bone solid tango red hair swatches of freckles across the face and the way he wars revolvers. There's an arrested his hand against the butter on a was to even if you didn't have to notice the Star on interesting morning. I'm here veal mcfaul. Yeah I've been expecting to run into your sheriff names. Poncet Brit look on George can never met up with the six shooter. You guys have heard about him though. And this is Sam bith leave Brit hire us heard something about expecting this phone. Yeah Yeah Art Hamper thought. You'd be heading up this canyon. Ample what were you. You ran into art breath early this morning. Doggone it that's who we're looking for yeah. He told me we'll get he. Tell you one Jimmy Stewart in the six shooter January third one thousand nine hundred fifty four on classic Classic Radio Theater. The news from that day comes up next friends and family. You've heard me talking for quite some time about my pillow and there's the reason I sleep better at night with my my pillow for a very long time. I could not sleep in bed and now thanks to my pillow. I get a good night's sleep every night whether it's short sleep many nights. It's just not enough. I win morning. It's like I'm so comfortable between my my pillow premium pillow and my Giza dreams bedsheets. I just don't want to get out of bed while right. Now if you go to mypillow DOT COM and click on the radio listener special you will. 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Haggerty met expansion of social security coverage and possible increase benefits by special messages will go to Congress within the first few weeks after Congress reconvenes Wednesday hegarty announced that the president's holiday headquarters here also from Washington she ten treasury and congressional staff experts agreed on major points in the sweeping tax evasion proposal providing for almost twenty one point two billion dollars annually in tax cuts in many fields informed sources said yesterday only minor details need to be worked out before the proposal laid before the tax in Writing House Ways and Means Committee and that probably we coming up within days in New York a World War Two AAA set a new transcontinental airspeed record four hours eight minutes five seconds yesterday and seconds after he crossed finish line he ran out of fuel and made an emergency landing. Colonel Woller w militant flew from Los Angeles to New York with only one stop to say four minutes fifty five seconds off the record set by Colonel Moline Council in Nineteen forty six from John the UN command stood firm behind its prisoners of war have beat him to go where they choose. Even if it means the prisoners will return to the Communists in a formal statement the Human Command endorsed the Indian custody force headcount screening in the latest anti-communist in this camp last Thursday to count resulted in one hundred thirty five Chinese asking an immediate return to the communists from Washington. Washington's Senate investigators yesterday pretended and the supposed secret questioning questioning former Soviet code court. EBOR GOES INCO. The hearing during which started international tempest port was held was expected to take one or two days. The Senate delegation consisting of chairman William e Jenner. The Republican Indiana. Anna of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee Senator Pat McCarron the Democrat an abandoned ranking Democrat and former chairman and J. T. Sour wine line acting council and an official reporter in from London. Moscow radio surprised it spans yesterday by playing a record of George. GERSHWIN's ones someone to watch over me. Monitors said the Soviet disc jockey gave no explanation for the sudden switch to modern music of the West. Those are some of the day's top news stories reported in the newspapers of Sunday January third nineteen fifty four on your radio. It is the six shooter starring Jimmy Stewart which continues now on Classic Radio Theatre. Brother was killed yesterday. You WanNA promoter you. You knew all that you just let him go scot-free or would you expect me to do a good abroad. Him saved us the trouble party or posture besides aren't willing to give himself club. Give Him. 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Thank you so much for spending part of your Friday with us here around Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station now. The conclusion of Jimmy Stewart and the six shooter a friend in need January third nineteen fifty four her own in act two of the six shooter starring James Stewart as Rick Poncet. Wow there wasn't anything else I could do. But just tell us your veil a whole cock and bull star just the way art had given it to me. It felt like crawling prairie dog. Oh not just because art made a fool of me more than that. We've been pretty good friends. Landlines all three of us aren't Clyde and me. I'm Clive of dad sooner or later be brought in for killing him. I wasn't Dongguan Gullible. It might have been a lot sooner. Iraq only three or four of my wish. Come back yeah. That's very steady. Had given up if he told you to wait for and there you can be done insurance last. Please he'll be he's probably still up at the end of the Canyon trying to find the pass you come on through so we better out on ahead. You WanNa go with this now. I think I'll head back for times and a couple of the boys along the way in EMPA- gives us a clip and start backtracking. You get them to keep your eyes open that we haven't caught him. Okay George Sam. Let's go it. Well that's what I intend to do this head straight for small applause but on the self turn it around real easy and then when I came to squirrel rock I couldn't help pull on just about noon. Sun Was Square in the middle of the sky. Sure wasn't any sign of art hamper. Not that I really thought they'd be. They're not after what I found out from. Sheriff I never looked the rock real close before. There's a lot bigger than most of the other bowlers. Along the way but as about the only difference I couldn't figure why folks got got the name. Sure look much like a squirrel to May go when I doubt about that it had been a couple of feet wider at a rock the whole canyon and I remember thinking to myself. A man could hide almost anywhere around there real easy. The only trouble was was. I didn't think all that song right on Brit. Yeah Yeah so are you are you. Don't mind getting off your heart to your well. As a matter of in fact I just as soon not what. You'd better do it anyway. Keep those arms stretched way of high. Now you can. unbuckle your gun belt but Use only one handy left one came. Okay thanks I guess you know. Iran undersheriff Vail. I told you would him and his boys come riding through. You're just a few minutes ago. Didn't even stop much. Figured I was up at the end of the Canyon hundred. Pass you come through. I George Crop says he saw you shoot Klein good well. I didn't pick a very good time for a did that. You're not gonNA deny again. You wouldn't and believe me if I did already pressed my luck with you. Wants today. Brit tried twice. Why'd you kill them? I wasn't clydes fault. Your father left on their property. Ranch wasn't the real reason I guess folks never will believe me. But that wasn't the cause was the cause I can't even put it in words. Words I reckon Clyde I reckon I always aided him but I didn't know how much until till they read the wheel until I found out how Really felt towards me you see I never had no mother. She died when when I was going wasn't very long after the popularity again in my at me a ready made family. She wasn't like one of them. Stepmother's you read about stories. She always tried to be fair and honest. Maybe that was it. Maybe she tried to be fair to balance. Never I did something bad. Never said a word to me. She waited to park. I'm Home call him about it. I was his son. She said she didn't have no right to punish me was up to par to take down the racers drop and give me a wailing that she was easy non cloud she wasn't she sought to. He told the line but he belonged to hurry. was the responsibility. He got weapons too. was heard give it doing. You don't sound very sensitive bread but was times when I used to wish she'd care enough about me too. Well just slapped me. Give me a good box but you never did. I was passed. Son Are you couldn't blame clients in a way. His mother acted told. You didn't blame him. I didn't blame not at. I told myself we were even Steven. He had on a par. I was fair enough and whatever happened. I was Art Emperor Brit. He wasn't even entitled to the same name not by any rights which is about that. I asked him why cried was calling himself hamper real a good ten. Let's answer got that's the way it was all the time I was growing up all the time until she died kind of happy when it happened. I thought maybe be me in power again. I saw her being out of the way would start a push clad to one side. It didn't work out like a figured cladding. Ha they mourn together they seem to be closer than before so I told myself all all had to do was wait I was caused son. Everybody knows what Diet disarm that inherits. All I had to do is to wake and I found out I had been living. My whole lifetime lies at convinced myself that when the chi