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Kobe Bryant.

Clock Dodgers Podcast - Motivation | Fantasy Football | Comedy | Pop Culture

17:29 min | 8 months ago

Kobe Bryant.

"January twenty six twenty twenty started like any regular regular day divide didn't feel different incense nothing weird in the air woke up normally worked like normal but I came across a headline on my phone while a pitcher of coby Bryan on someone's instagram story. I didn't it didn't have any significance. I didn't understand why was there. It didn't matter. I just thought somebody was posting. Koby Bryant I then seen a headline from TMZ that said Kobe Bryant Laker Star had died in a helicopter accident in California and My mind couldn't process that that statement it didn't make sense. It didn't didn't seem real. I am I immediately went to twitter. CNN places. I look for news to be there quickly that I could trust as seen nothing except TMZ so my mind in and not being able to totally totally believe what I was reading from TMZ. I call my wife I said. Can you please check the news check. Check the Internet and tell me if you see anything about Kobe. Bryant Dan in a helicopter accident and she of course is you know. Shock doesn't understand what's happening but she's checking and she doesn't see anything other than the TMZ thing and you know. Hello Sir. People start to talk about it on twitter Other outlets news outlet start to report and so we come to grips with this idea that it has to be true. That what we're reading you know is not some hoax. It's not some false report. It's not some miss case of mistaken. Identity is real and you have this punched in the gut type. Feeling this This this this Situation like nine eleven or other tragic deaths. Yes where you know where you are the minute it happens. You won't ever forget the situation you were in And there's so much the process here. There's so much to unfold old. There's so much to you know. Appeal back on this and and it will continue to happen as the days go on the weeks. Go on the months go on the years. Go on We'll continue to know more more about why something like this happened How we feel about it? How we process they It is beautiful to see. All the people posting videos writing articles doing podcasts While tragic it's beautiful to see the impact Koby made the impact that we all strive to make but mostly and typically fall short If I find comfort in the loss of Kobe Bryant is that he made that impact that he died knowing he was one of the greatest to ever do what he did. There is no question about that I know Kobe knew that There was debates constantly. MJ or Kobe. Lebron Koby greatest ever do and most championships. How do they matter Those conversations don't happen without you know in that person knowing that those conversations are happening on a daily basis he. He knew his importance. He knew he was loved. He knew he mattered a he knew he made an impact. I Find Comfort in that the part that gets me to the second the part that destroys me every time I think about it the part that breaks me down and makes me cry is the thought of his daughter. Zhijie beating the helicopter with him as apparent death for us. This is not the ultimate fear. The ultimate fear is the loss of our child to see justice. Er Child struggle. Oh or lose hearts but to imagine an invasion you know the the the the moments Dell would at the end and what he must've processed would his his his baby girl. is is unbearable. It's is unbearable for me. I didn't know Koby Bryant. I'm not his friend and He didn't he didn't impact my life. from a personal experience for many that we're hearing from I'm I I didn't have that luxury But he's still destroys me. Every time I think about it I I understand that life is fragile. I understand understand that it's is so easy to come and go We all must die but it's hard to pitcher tragic understand tragic deaths. I take these moments. You know. I do these podcasts for the listeners of course But also for myself because I need I use these moments to self reflect to remind myself I love my kids. Anyone who knows me knows that literally every thought of my day day is my kid. I do everything for my kids and you decision I make is about my kids So I I use these like as As someone who loves his kids to death I have three boys. I don't have any daughters. I know it's you know maybe a little different to some people have raised daughters instead of boys But I I always I I do think to myself you know if I die tomorrow and I think about this all the time if something tragic does happen to me by Dina car accident you know. Whatever her are my kids prepared like Di di Di do my best and I love them enough that I- instill confidence enough that I tell them that I did? I explain how to be a leader as much as I could that I show it as an example Did I did I did. I put them in a position to to take care of themselves and I you know I like like to believe that I do i. I try every day I worked so hard To do that and to to imagine you know what he what. Kobe went through in those final final moments. It wasn't about Kobe Kobe. Kobe was okay with Kobe. Diana was even thought it was his daughter. I don't even question that and yes there. Were other other people on this helicopter. It's horrible whole family's mother father daughter mother and daughter the pilot the the The mother who wasn't on there what her husband and kids who now have to deal with this. I think about Kobe's wife. I think about the families who have to carry this burden and I know you know the world has an outpouring of love for them and I hope that that helps in some small way but I know it it ultimately comes down to them. They have to live the rest of their live with this right and that survivor guilt is real. It's not it's not it's not. It's not something that we just make up that we just talk about that has to be almost as bad as the one who leave us because you feel guilty that they went and you didn't and I'm sure you know I'm sure. Kobe was aware the dangers of finding a helicopter. I'm sure something him and his wife disgust and like I said he made such an impact and I'm sure he was well aware of the risk was taken and and I find comfort in that I find comfort in the outpouring of love for him and that he was aware that before he left when Nipsy died nipsy hustle. I hurt because I didn't know if he knew the way the love the way the world loved him the impact he made. I knew he N- new in some way but I don't know if he knew all the way we Kobe I find some and comfort in the fact that he knew all the way But I hurt when I think about his daughter. The the the The impact. She doesn't get to make that she didn't get to finish yes And there's no way to make sense of this. All I can try to do is live better because of it love of harder work harder and do everything in my power. She tried to better myself. I can't erase what happened. I can't change what happened. I can't turn back. We all thought Kobe Bryant would one day be an old Kobe Bryant and he'd be entering the hall of fame. He would continue to exchanged lives and he's still going to change. Lives is still gonNA matter. He still matters. But just you know from a different way Thank you everybody who's written beautiful articles Creative video sharing their moments and experiences with Kobe podcast cash acted a great podcast talking about him. And how we deal with these kind of moments because people that shock that someone who had issues with Kobe and he breaks it down beautifully on his podcast and how it works and how that whole situation developed an and most importantly this moment again as a reminder to him you know to to love harder There's just so much and again like I said this. This episode is fifteen minute break is not you know selfishly for me in a way because I can't stop thinking about it I can't stop replanning in my head. You see the horrible video that gets shared you constantly keep being reminded minded about it and I just as a father. Just rips me up. It just rips me off. But I'm not here for the Goofy Shit with the people that wanted to debate Kobe's he's you know Where he ranks? I'm not here for the Goofy Shit. I'm not here for the people who WanNa make jokes when there's no joke to be made. I'm not here for that that I'm not here for that stupid Shit I'm here to celebrate. Kobe's life celebrate his daughter's life to celebrate the people's lives who were are on that plane and helicopter. Excuse me and you know I I feel like the most important thing we can do in moments limits of tragedy like this an unexpected tragedy. Because when it's death right like if if someone is older or they're sick for a long time I'm not saying death is easier for us to deal with them but it softens the blow a little bit because I feel like we kind of we kinda feel it coming right but in situations like this. That reminds us that life is is so delicate that just going to work and coming home is a win matters. Twenty minutes in the car with get your kids matters we so were. I'm so quick I can't even say we have to say I'm speaking for myself. I'm so quick to handed tablet or a phone or play music or whatever and I should be having conversations in those moments more and I just WanNa make sure that you know if something tragic happens to me that I I uh I did right. I did the best I could. I don't WanNa fall short. I don't Wanna I I had this mentality where like nipsy. Russell died his albums. One of the greatest albums ever to me but before he died. I didn't give it all the opportunity to play it like I literally almost every day now but before I wasn't because I thought I had forever. I thought nipsy had forever. I thought his music had forever. I was wrong and it's the same thing with Kobe. That's why you're seeing all the beautiful videos and and all this stuff and don't let people stop you from consuming. That don't let people stop appear from talking about Kobe saying well. You weren't talking about before you. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter. Kobe do what he did so we would talk about him now. Gary V O. He says that you. It doesn't matter what you achieve in life in the money you end up with and all this cost of matters is how many people would show up to your funeral. The whole world's initial jacoby funeral whether whether in person on TV online they're gonNA watch. They're gonNA care he won. He did everything right and we we watched a man go from a kid leaving high school to the NBA. And we've seen mistakes and challenges in him. You know rise over those. It says it was a beautiful life whether it was cut short he still achieve so much in that life and it's just tragic for everybody of all the families involved his daughter it literally tears tares in me every time. I'm not ashamed to say I cry about it. I'm not ashamed to say destroys me. I'm not I'm not ashamed to say that it can accomplish a great deal of my a day. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm GonNa work harder because of it. I'm not ashamed to say that I could always do better and moments like these unfortunately remind us yes. We shouldn't need to be kicked in the butt and be reminded to do these things but is how it works. Sometimes life is busy. Life is crazy but we can't let let things get in the way of the fact that we have to make an impact that we have to love hard but we have to get over shit son tunnels to be great. It's on us to have that. Mamba mentality is great seeing the stuff that he did and the way he lived SP- beautiful and it's horrible to hear about the other people and himself from the daughter and there's so much there that we didn't get to play out out we never know Lighthouse GonNa play out so again. I guess it's important to make this episode. Not just for you guys not just for those listening. Not just for someone randomly in you know whatever town or country as any here this but from my self as a reminder to to do better doesn't mean we're bad it doesn't mean we're not good enough. We always go a little harder. We do do not be so bothered by the little things appreciate more. I get mad had so easily. Alad hate see been so easily just love super hard. Love is important. Bust our ASS. Closest thing our declare from Kobe he had so many clips could've pulled from Merle. Oh continue to use but I WANNA end on this note. Thank you to Kobe for everything. He Accomplished Mahar and everything goes out to his family recipes. His everyone aboard. Not Just Koby and I hope that somehow his family has the strength. I know they will and shots. That's all you guys. Anyone listening right now. I just know that you matter is so important so someone told me that in passing one time I talked about on the show. They just said you matter so randomly I just WanNa a you know to to to pass over you matter. Let's all five little bit Kobe. Inas Issues Mama mentality. I love you guys. I hope this helped in some way. I know it helped me as always be kind. Be Great keep dodging means a team. With what about individually for you got one more to check could take that to the bank. The guys go out and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and be like and you gotTa have a bull you gotta have. A boy may ask somebody carry on the tradition. The legacy just like oh I got. This humphry. Tom Enjoy life is life is too short to to get bogged down. It'd be discouraged or you have to keep moving. Keep going per watt smile and just keep all. How do you WanNa be remember what what matters is to you and his whole discussion of what you want people to think of That you L.. It's I've always said that I wanted to be remembered as a player didn't waste a moment today and I felt extremely bless the guy giving time the same time. I didn't take take you for granted six year old boy and deeply in love with Sofa. Marceau ooh

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Remembering Kobe Bryant

Titus & Tate

1:12:33 hr | 8 months ago

Remembering Kobe Bryant

"Up to date is a Kobe Bryant troop. That is what we were deciding to do. We're recording this Monday night. It is about seven. PM Pacific Time here here. If you're listening to this it's probably already Tuesday and at this point it's probably been forty eight hours since the news broke and you know people are different tastes some people will probably are are over it for lack of a better term. Some people have already processed at moving on and I don't WanNa hear another podcast about Kobe. Brian for you know they've already scratched. which if you're one of those people that's okay we understand? That's not what we're trying to do here. We're not trying to I don't know I don't know we're not trying to do whatever that is. We're not trying to gain a big audience with the show. What we are trying to do is the show exists because Tate night love basketball? We've that's it's fundamental to our beans. We both grew up loving basketball and the show is supposed to be extension of our love basketball and so every time we come in to record a show we want to talk about the things in the world of basketball that are on our minds and and this is literally the only thing on my mind. There's nothing else that I care about. I don't care what college games happened this week. I don't care anything else Kobe. Bryant's the only thing. Oh my mind you'll be the only thing on my mind for a very long time so we talked it over we were. We were wondering how much we should devote to Kobe. How much we should break down the Baylor Florida game And we just decided. We're GONNA talk Kobe. We're GONNA talk about the Mamba himself. The Black Mama the guy that you and I we both in la for for a while. Now we've seen gene how things work in Los Angeles. Los Angeles Lakers swinging on right now and again. That goes back to two thousand with that Lakers team. You said you were young Shack van at that point. So yeah there. There's a lot of connective tissue here. Mitch Kupchak was GM. The Lakers my whole life growing up with Carolina Guy. So I'd always have an affinity for the Lakers even though I didn't necessarily like the Lakers and being in La delay for this tragedy for this moment where we lost such an icon. And I don't use that term lightly Kobe Bryant ascended to a different different level. And a lot of different realms and a lot of different fields and what we WANNA do is show that in the field of basketball in this beautiful game. Kobe Bryant is an icon of class and he deserves that type of respect yet. And listen. We understand that You know the the news of Kobe. Bryant's passing happens. The world is not turning to titus and say we want. We've got to hear these two guys take. We understand that that is not what's happening. We understand that we are. This is not some sort of performance thing thing. We're trying to pretend like we're more torn up than anyone else or anything like that op. Art Show is always just been It's been us it's been an authentic thing and I don't know this is all that we can talk literally the only thing we talked about. So it's either this or no show and we feel like it'd be therapeutic to talk through this. That's where we're going to do today. This is our twenty four second violation. And this is a second violation. This is exactly doing exactly hang Hamas who did so much for a school. That's it though. So we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about Kobe Bryant today but I would he durham. Oh It's Monday night here in Los Angeles we're going to first of all. I should say that tate has notes for the first time we've ever done a podcast and all the years I've been two or three years. Whatever it is? Let's just say forty four feels like four years. This is the first time you've never had any notes in front of you. I have the fewest amount of notes. I've ever had the only reason jot anything down just so I'm not completely scattered rain because I have a tendency to to be that way. We just wanted to make this like as authentic and genuine and whatever else as possible and like I said. It's it's sort of therapy for us. And I guess I want to start their tape because wh- what is crazy to me about. This is that we obviously. You never met Kobe Brian. I I've I've I mean not yet I feel like I'm not with him seen a movie. I'd never met the man I I did I. I liked him as a basketball player will get into that a little bit like the impact. It had on us because we're both kind of of the Kobe generation so to speak. But you know I would never have classified Koby as like an icon or an idol in my life or anything like that and I like so many the people and just completely devastated. And it's so weird because like the rational part of your brain kicks in and you're you almost WANNA shame yourself for this and you want to say like what what am I doing here. Why am I being so emotional for man? I don't know for a man who is just like a celebrity and you know had no direct impact on my life life but then you think about it morning like he kind of did have an impact on my life is such an inspiration to so many people So like that to me was WAS CRAZY BECAUSE I I. I guess. Let's start here like where where were you what. How did you hear? The news was shocked as I was Yeah it's a really weird conversation because in the morning that it will which is Sunday morning here in Los Angeles. It was the night before I was driving on the PCH and The person I'm riding in the car with there's very foggy night right we drive on the PCH. And I'm saying allowed. This is very dangerous. I cannot see you know ten yards in front of me or whatever it may be but you say things offhand right you just have this passing moment and then the next morning I was in Malibu and I heard sirens about you know little shade before ten o'clock in the morning and you know there was some complaints about the sirens and that they were all over and it was kind of like another day live. You're living on crazy now. They all you hear it all the time. It's sort of like a big city and then go from there. It's like ten thirty. I'm Brian. I'm sitting there and I'm talking and then on twitter obviously and this is unfortunately thing how these things work I see. TMZ breaking and it says. Kobe Bryant has died in a helicopter accident. And then it gets wipes. And I have this like two-minute to minute period of this. You know. There's not many moments in life where you almost just feel like a sense of just like wait of just just frozen. Yeah it was and I didn't say anything to the person that was sitting there with me. And then she she actually said what's going on. Are you okay. Something happened like as if it was a family member or something like that and I didn't WanNa say anything 'cause you don't WanNa Start and say this tragic anything happened before it's confirmed I reached out to a friend of mine who was close to the family And he calls me ten minutes later confirmed the news and I don't you know like tears like you said we're we feel very removed from the situation so being brought to tears is something that's not not necessarily a one to one in the situation at least it just struck me in that moment to have that reaction because I don't feel you talk about not having knows I don't feel prepared. I feel the most repaired yet. The most unprepared. I remember felt to do something ever in front of a microphone because I feel like I should be fifty years old. I should be a seasonal media a professional and then I should be talking about the passing of Kobe. Bryant right you should be at that place and the fact that that hit me and I knew that we were going to have to talk about about him this way and and have this conversation for someone that had so much life ahead. I think that was what really hurts. And that's what that moment so huge. It's it's a it it just so I'll I'll give my story I. I woke up Sunday. It was it was fog as well and I noted how foggy it was as well. It was which which is a weird thing to say in L. A. Because a lot of people like what what Kinda Day was. It was actually foggy in. It was enough so that people would mention fan. Wow it's really foggy. Yeah we Who the buddy I was with wanted to go to get brunch He he was he he I remember he said to me the fog. I love the fog. I love going to the beach when it's foggy and it's so foggy out and I was like your first of all. That's bizarre never heard anyone ever say that if you WANNA go grab a bite by the beach because it's so foggy that's cool and so we went there we were at the Venezuelan for those of you know l. a. it's got a semi popular spot. We're at the whaler eating eating breakfast. I put on the Maryland. Game in Indiana was up seven or something like five minutes left. They were down nine at half time they come back. It was a ton of fun. Get the texts from my buddy. Keller you know he said Oh my God. Kobe Bryant died. And if you know anything about Keller you know that like he's never had a serious thought and his life he's never once said anything serious so like I don't get the joke I don't understand. I'm sure it's funny. I don't understand it and I'm watching you and I have time for this And then the timeout happens. Time inside pull out my phone. I get on twitter at the same thing that you and you see it and all those phrases that people use for for for things like when when Kanye took Taylor Swift's via may my jaw dropped. I've win and you use these phrases showstopper or whatever. Yeah and it's not actually it's not actually Java android Camman went onstage and to go to war stuff like that all those phrases you understand like where they come from in that moment because that was my jaw was open. I think it was open for like twenty minutes. My Buddy was trying to talk through with me because I showed him the tweet. Kobe's is dead in. I didn't say a word. Just had my jaw drop. I I look up our much. Time later Indiana lost. I had no idea how it happens. I was in a fog for lack of a better term And and the weirdest thing for me was watching. I've never had this experience before my life. I met the whaler. And there's a there's a handful of people there and and just watching the entire room kinda learn independently but also at the exact same time to watch that phenomenon happen It was so crazy and everyone has had the same reaction. I think it's just because like Kobe was bulletproof. You know what I mean like. He's a guy that you saw. He was supposed to be Bill Russell going going to all of these games and thirty forty years handing out the the MVP trophies. He was the elder statesmen. All of these things that everyone's been saying as the the past forty eight hours of happened and all these people are in their tributes and kind of saying that making the same point in our main And and that's what was so shocking to me is like this was not a guy. This was a guy who who had everything in his life was like down to a science and he had he was very calculated with everything. And I mean I sat there and I really thought about it and if I was like making a list of of people I would be more shocked to see pass away like I could probably count on one hand the number of people just because I know it was a freak accident and helicopters. They don't have prejudice when they go down. It doesn't matter how healthy you are anything like that. You're talking about a guy that's has. Hundreds of millions of dollars is is so eloquent and well educated did for not going to college. He's one of those educated. He's got to be one of those educated non college attended guys ever like all the markers like if you're writing if you're an underwriter for a for a life insurance policy you would look at Kobe. Bryant's life and you'd be like that guy is rock solid like there's nothing that could take that guy down and it's a freak accident. I think think for me. At least that's what made this so heavy. was I mean I. There are three things that played into a one. Is You have the grief the normal grief that happens. When a celebrity dies you prince dies and it's like I love that man's music? I don't know much about him but like that pain. I feel like I know but I know I don't know him. Whatever whatever then you throw in the circumstances of this which is a a completely freak accident probably avoidable in some ways like if you really I mean obviously if you could do it over probably not gonna fly the helicopter in that weather and then on top of that? The children his daughter the other children involved all of that just makes it absolutely soul-crushing and then the third one is and we were talking about this before four it. It sort of trickles triggers like an existential crisis. Because I think and I'll just speak for myself but I I assume I'm not alone in this that when you look at a guy like Kobe like I said he's so like ironclad and just feels like a guy that that nothing can take him down and and tally when the day and yeah and you know you get told all your whole life you're like life is precious cherish every moment whatever whatever But those sorts of things always seem to happen. When you know your your your grandma passed away and someone says cherish every moment i? Yeah but at the same time grandma was kind of old. Or there's always like it never fully clicks in your brain. You know what I mean. There's always like some part of you that caveat got to get you out of that. I hear what you're saying life sort of it. It doesn't whatever and to have this. This is just a punch in the face lake. No I'm telling you it doesn't matter what you have. It doesn't matter how rich you are because you know it's like us that that aren't multimillionaires. Used assume like once you get to a certain level of life once you have hundreds of millions of dollars you can insulate it yourself from tragedy you you can just throw money at anything and that was kind of my reaction when it happened is I had the same thought like like you think Tracy Morgan. When he gets in the car wreck back you think David Ortiz being shot like stuff like that where you see a celebrity is in peril and his life is in danger but then they they worked through through it and then they're fine not fine but you know they're back and that's kind of was my first reaction even Lamar Odom where it's like you hear the first story but then there's like the the second iteration you expect like even someone said to me that morning after it had the phone call night had confirmed it wasn't reported yet and I'm sitting there you know basically like like you said a ghost? I'm not really like say anything. I'm just sitting there like all my phone just kind of looking at the last time that I had had anything. Kobe Bryant related. Like in my like my my camera with all my photos. So I'm going through all this stuff just like see where was and it was in two thousand eighteen and AS Roma sitting there and this whole conversation is breaking out. I heard another table next to us and they're like Kobe. Kobe got in a helicopter accident but they said it is. If like you're saying he's GONNA be. I will be fine. He got an accident he will be okay. There was not the second dripping of the news with this. There is no. He's an accident. He's in critical condition and then he passes away two days later. It was just like you're going through your day you're on twitter. Or whatever whatever you're scrolling through and and and people are tweeting nonsense and terrible memes and all that and then all of a sudden. There's a tweet Kobe. Bryant's dead. There's no there's no buffer is like we're here now we're over here and it was just. Yeah I mean that's how my brain process it was like Shirley he's not dead surely he's just going to go to the hospital. They're gonNA do whatever the magic like whenever you're rich whatever it is they do they sprinkle money on the guy or whatever the problem with the they're gonNA give them the celebrity medicine. Make them all better and rehab. Whatever is problems are an nine or ten months? He's GonNa come out of Lakers game and waving crowds going to go crazy and and he's going to be back and that's what's going to happen that's how it has to happen because that's how I my brain has always processed like has to happen that way and so to see a story like no. That's not how it happened. He's dead he was alive. Snap a finger now. He's not it's over it's permanent. It's it's very very sobering. And Yeah I think that's what factors into for you know at least as for. Maybe I shouldn't speak for everyone else but I've noticed that that that's a that's an interesting thing about all this. Is that so many people do seem to to share that sentiment. That like I wasn't wasn't necessarily the biggest Kobe fan or they have all these things. But it's like my God this absolutely correct me and did meet so like I couldn't believe a man like I. I was with my friend I go home to. I was like keeping it all together as digest the news and all that the second I got home and I was by myself I started bawling my eyes out and I ah even as I'm crying I'm like what am I doing. I don't understand what's happening but it was just like a raw emotion of of everything and I don't know it's it's been it's been crazy and I think I think this is the first person that I can kind of remember an sports vein at least in my lifetime where it didn't feel like it was like you said he was art class like he was a kid. I got detailing Jordan's Milivoje exactly like that's it wasn't that was our guy that's everyone is. This is Kobe Bryant. We all know Kobe Bryant. I've seen all the to me like Kobe. Derrick jeeter tiger woods. We're all in this class at Reich. These three guys are untouchable. They're invincible for whatever whatever reason. I don't understand how it works. I don't understand how Tiger Woods can be on sixteen in Augusta and ship it in. I don't understand. Tiger Woods can like break his back in half and like a lot of airplanes and win the master and then all of a sudden yeah. He's fine and you've wanted the and understand how Kobe Bryant everything could seemingly fall apart the way they do it is because they are immortal. That's how he does it in the resurrection of Kobe. Bryant's career from when he goes from eight to twenty four and he comes back and he could have theoretically won three straight. Titles of await works out differently in these little moments and for Kobe. Brian to see him It's it's our guy we see him go like I remember when Dale Earnhardt Jr.. When that happened I remember that? They'll senior Dell Dell senior died in two two thousand one. I remember being like ten years old was and I remember watching sports center that night and when they said that you know it was the whatever was like he hit his head against the wall and it was the brain in injury and then he had actually passed away. Like my mom and dad had turned off sportscenter because they didn't want to deal with the fact that that was actually reality. And I remember before that when Payne Stewart won the the US Open at Pinehurst. We all watch pain win than his plane went down And it was like that and it was gone and those are the only sports moments I remember just thinking like I it. It was H- he had that visceral reaction. This is reality. And they're gone but this one is so much more so than I don't even know how to explain that the oldest not it's not useful to rank more hits. I remember just trying to contextualize it and even like you said the earnhardt thing was. I vividly remember. That was at a Pacer game that day and they came on the the jumbotron breaking news at the at the patriots as the last lap. Daytona right yeah yeah yeah he hit the wall in a uh but for that one even like it. Maybe I'll miss remembering but like the initial story wasn't that he was dead stories. That is is in Iraq is taken to the hospital. Everyone's hope deals okay and then reports come out and it's like Dale Earnhardt's in serious condition or whatever it is like Oh damn prayers for Dale and then you find out that he died select not that it makes it any you know. I'm not comparing it. But it's like they're sort of like a progression of the story and with the Kobe thing was like no. It was the first thing you heard anything was I hadn't thought about Kobe. Bryant and thought about it because the Brown book the record but I had no thought on like what Kobe Bryant was doing with his day on Sunday and he'll be very first. The very first thought I had of him doing his day was when I learned that he had passed away. And it's crazy to think that the thing how how quickly that will happen. You're talking about how we were. We were Koby kids. I am wearing my An old most people are listening to this but I am wearing my authentic. I think it's what does that eleonore. What that logo is to be on the inside to? They'll say the WHO forty visits such throwback I`Ma MMA at the risk of making this about me that's what that's a big criticism of media people when people is like your until eulogizing people and you make it too much about yourself Kobe to me like the reason. This is authentic. I had this back in. I bought this ninety nine. Two thousand whatever was right when the Lakers about three zero I was I was a massive zip kid when I was little. And I've talked about this a little bit before my origin story and basketball's that basically I hit puberty like four years before all of my peers. which is how I got on a ut with commonly only known in the first place which is it explains my entire life? Finally hit puberty than I I'm not taught you're not listening to me talk right now so when I was little I was a big that makes sense and I love shack for that reason because I thought I was shacking. Yeah all my friends came up to my nipples at at the highest point My second friend it was up to my nipples probably and I was just like Dunkin kids on seven foot Ramsey's so when she got traded to the Lakers. I just went all in on the Lakers. Because I thought this is. This is why I watch shack lose Jordan. All those years and then he gets swept by allies one in the finals. And then he goes to the Lakers and I was like all right. I think he's going to do it at the lake. I WANNA see Shack when it tied all that kind gotta stuff very quickly. He gets to L. At the same time. Kobe does very quickly. Kobe became not my favorite player but like the guy I wanted to be like. I stopped I. I watched like every Laker game those on TV this is even before they started winning. Titles this was like ninety. Six Ninety seven ninety eight the spurs were beaten Dunkin's and Robinson birth. I'm watching all the Lakers Games. And I'm like Shakespeare expert my favorite player all these years. But my dad coby so fun. Kobe's the coolest guy on earth. Yours is so cool With the FRO and the attitude and he was he was. Yeah Michael I was a little too young I mean I got the tail end of Jordan all that but I wasn't along for the whole Jordan ride like my brother was so my brother is all in Jordan Shaq and Kobe became my guys and Kobe's were the first pair of shoes I actually bought My whole basketball life. I only wore like chuck's and Adidas Superstars and the first pair of of of signature shoes that my parents bought for me for the I think they were called the KGB. twos eight or something. Yeah I was like fifth grade. They bought me the Kobi's and I love them so much that I would take them to school. And and for P. Class I would change out of whatever sneakers. I'd worn to school it. It was like Mr Roger Situation where he takes off once on another. I already had like basketball shoes on. And I would take those off and put the Kobe's on and my teacher started calling me Kobe. He's a friend friend of my dad's to this day. P teacher still knows the first name I ever got. My life was colby to this day. My Pe teacher still calls me covy. He'll ask my database. Hey how how's how's Kobe. Doin' my dad's a great moved out to L. A.. Whatever whatever it's like this little thing again I don't mean to like make this about me or whatever but that's just like my dad was telling me about that and I I was? I was like balm is I don't know what's going on I don't know I don't know where that story's going no I just I. It's a Kobe Kobe. It was the coolest guy on earth to the kids of our age and a lot of people. He you know didn't resonate. A lot of people went straight from Jordan to WHO Lebron in terms of like. They're the guys they love the most and that's the weirdest thing is like Kobe was never. I would never say that. He was my favorite player in the League. But he was always always always always the coolest one hundred percent. If I could like emulate anybody. I wanted to be like Kobe but I hope I showed better like Lebron better but like Kobe's definitely cooler than that both both okay. I think you made the perfect point. which is what I wanted to make about? Kobe and the system comes back to like this whole conversation about the greats basketball. And what we do with all these subjective conversation position and the reason why all that's an issue and it's kind of wild that something. This sobering can lead to this realization for a lot of people but Koby always considered the middle child which is basically like Michael Jordan. Ordinance Marsha James Cindy Kobe's Jan yen. All Kobe talked about all the time was Michael. Michael Michael always wanted into here and talk about was. I'm going to be the Michael and like you said you grew up being shack fan which led to be in a Kobe Fan. 'cause they're on the same team. They did the three peat for me. I ahead all older cousins. I'm the youngest and everyone is a Michael Jordan Fan. Michael Jordan Went Carolina. We all love Michael Jordan and Kobe. Bryant was this eighteen year old brash kid coming out of Philadelphia and he was saying not only did he not only was he going to be the greatest of all time but he was going to be the greatest of all time without doing the one thing that that everyone at the time. Thought you had to do which is get the coastline of a blue blood. Go to go to college basketball and get Duke or North Carolina Kansas Kentucky. You ever may be not to say oh. That guy knows how to play the game of basketball. He's going to be a great star. Sort of like you know Vince. Carter in around the same age as Kobe and they were. You know right around the same line so to me Vince. Carter was the coolest and I loved. Vince Carter so there was every single reason for me to not like Kobe Bryant. In fact I didn't WanNa like Kobe Bryant but the thing that a never made me feel anything towards Kobe. Bryant other than respect is the Kobe Bryant talked all that talk which you said was being cool I remember the dunk contest. brandies over there like throwing them the Tin Tin. You know like you know. They're dating at the time and Kobe's doing all that you know talk and all that talk. And he was brash. He was Kobe he was whatever but he backed it up. Always backed up and and it was and it wasn't a Braggadocio way of backing it up. It was more of Lake. This guy told you day one. I am going to be the greatest and then he didn't just sit around and flounder. He went to the gym every single day I saw Alan Iverson is a little tribute. He was first time. COVINA had dinner. Ninety six thousand nine hundred seven whatever their rookie year so we're sitting Now were chatting and he asked me what I'm GonNa do later and I'm like I'm go the club like basically invited him out the gun and Kobe's like that's cool. I'm Jim Wright and Kobe in his mind is like Alan Iverson is probably more talented than me naturally more gifted maybe but I'm going to work every single person. which is the craziest thing about this? Whole stories that Colby we lived life like he sees every single day like a maniac and some people would say he was psychotic about how he craziest thing to me is that he you know maybe privilege isn't the right word but it's not like he? He was born the son of a great player. Brian on the sixers yeah. He's like friends with Kareem abdul-jabbar Kobe. His background is not it does not suggest like a guy who has to who has the grind and him or like all of that like you you could very easily be in his position and be like no. I'm good I'm already like one of the best high school the players. I just got drafted to the Lakers. On you know he was so translates to. We don't even view him as a second generation player like one of the knocks. You get on a Klay Thompson or Steph. Curry is that they were ingratiated. Aided in assistant right Kobe some level was an in fact him being over in Italy and having this reverend subculture and having the ability to speak Serbian dirty words like talk junk to people like these are the things that Kobe Bryant obsess over. And that to me is why he was so different because every day was a challenge to prove everybody everybody wrong and to prove what he said to be true which is like he may have talked at early on his career but then Kobe walked into the Max every single day and was a maniac about it. I mean Teresa ingredients on this morning he was like I had a lower back. Soreness in one of our games in Kobe came down. Hit Him in the back and he said I just want to test your back in engines. It's the same thing and Kobe was wired in a different way. He said I'M GONNA be I'm Jay and he pretty much was was that's incredible and if he had won three in a row. We we talk about this to each other all fares. Kobe wins in two thousand eight and he has six titles and he did it and he took the brig just like Jordan did switch to switch numbers like thousands leg version of Michael Jordan. Basically you're talking about his work ethic and and I want to like expand on that to have a larger discussion about Being in La In his importance to L. A.. And and I'm probably the wrong guy to speak on this. I I moved out here about a year ago. Go almost exactly I lived here. I didn't live here. I come out here for months at a time for a few years. There said I'd be here like two or three months and then go back back to Ohio for six months and then come back out for So I I've been around a little bit but I've been out here permanently for about a year and one thing that stood out even before for Sunday is just how much people love Kobe. And I know this is not new breaking news by any means but It was crazy I went to the Barber Arbor for like six months. This this place in Culver City in the barber we had the exact same conversation because he never remembered that I kept coming like he just completely forgot he thought it was my first time and every time and every time he would hit with the where you from Bro and I'd say Ohio anybody. How do you feel about the brand that I was like you know? He's a great player. Like it's Kinda weird that he left Ohio uh-huh and like Ohio's cool with it but you know bring titled Ohio so like People Know How really love him and he was like I don't I don't i. Don't mess with the Brun I was like. Are you Lakers. A love Lakers acres but all muscle Lebron and then I remember the first time was getting my haircut there. Why and he explained the whole thing like Kobe Kobe city this will always be a Kobe city the Bryan thinks he can NBA Kobe? He'll never be Kobe. And that was my introduction to that so then I started paying more attention to that. You're driving around L. A.. And and just talking to other Laker fans you know and it's so crazy because if you live out here and you have any sort of social circle whatsoever and that an and you're into sports I guarantee you know somebody who's who who thinks of Kobe Bryant as God. There's somebody in that circle that loves Kobe. Bryant and I think when you're on the outside looking in and this was certainly the case Romy me living in Ohio. It was always a little head scratching and I know people like everyone. Involved with the Lakers. Magic himself calls Kobe. The greatest leaker not even just 'cause he passed away like we were just watching his final game name those being broadcast on. ESPN Tonight and magic calls him the greatest Laker then and everyone calls the greatest leader. If you're on the outside you're not from La you're not a Laker fan and like this is absurd. Shack was top five lists. That don't even have they don't have koby on and it's so absurd. And there's this disconnect of people who loved Kobe and always did and people who who like I mean he's a good player but like what's the big deal about him and I I'm not gonNA pretend to like make a connection and tried to explain Again I'm not. I'm not a lifelong La residents. I'M NOT GONNA speak for those people but I don't know if I was if I was to guess I would say the one thing that stood out to me being here for your is that L. A. is a much more blue collar city than I realized I think the perception of L. A.'s glitz and glamour obviously all the celebrities all that there are millions and millions of blue collar. People here who are just like busting their ass This this is very much a city it has and have nots. And they are far more have nots live in the city and the have nots love and they guy like Kobe Bryant and they're like that is a guy who I mean he was born. You could argue. He was born into privilege but like he. He outworked that reputation that that that of being a kid that was born on third like maybe that could be true but he works so damn hard that like you you would never throw that in his face you would never say Kobe. Bryant was good because of who has father was And I think that's admirable to to to people that's why I mean the head to be like what the what the the the big draw was for him like just he always always always was willing willing to to work even when he didn't necessarily have that was ingrained in his DNA in resonated with people. You mentioned his last night they had the promo video like basically the tribute video which you know watching washing now is even more eerie. You know than than I could even imagine. Jack Nicholson at the end of the video. He says thank you Brian. You've been the biggest star in La for the past twenty years. And I think I think that's the way to sum up in a in a town of stars in the town. Where every single big name? If you make it you're GONNA go to L. A.. I'm even if you make New York you know you're gonNA eventually make this big hopped l. a. and you're the big movie star. Whatever Kobe Bryant was still bigger than everyone if Kanye West to sit in a room with lady Gaga and Kobe Bryant walks in La? They're getting up and saying coach. Brian this is going to be a huge thing for me. And I think the Grammy's being in staple center last night I mean it was almost too. Surreal also surrealist. Yeah in in in for Liz. Come out and open the show up and you know just to say rest in peace Kobe Bryant and then Felicia keys the whole tribute for them to show his Jersey's lit up in the rafters and to have this whole moment for Kobe Bryant. It still doesn't really sink in it. It still is not something to be exactly. It still feels as I'm watching all the coverage Even today like so so I thought like Sunday I would process it all and just just kind of like sit there with my mouth open. Just be like what what has happened. Be Emotional all that kind of stuff planned today. When I woke up first of all I was I was playing on waking up and just like forgetting it happened or like being told us a dream or something like that and the very I thought I had my woke up? It was like Kobe. This is unbelievable. I couldn't believe in and I was like you know what I'm not going to be said I was crying yesterday. And we've already been over that like that was a weird emotion to the be so emotional. I'M GONNA try to celebrate today I'm GonNa try to watch all of these highlight videos and all this stuff and and that spilled over. I was watching all the stuff on youtube unless built over me. Turn on my TV. And I'm watching every outlet on earth and It's it's so wild to see all of the characters in sports media that exists. We this is an industry One thing that's happened from this is you've learned real quick Sudesh chicken. Who Does it in this business? Because the the guys who you know are are ham it up every day very somber and I guess you could say that about us. I'm not I usually make Dick Jokes on the show. I'm not really doing that right now. so I was watching all that and and even as watching it and I know what happened I I still dislike. Feel like I'm just watching his final game like I'm still feel like it's just all of these. Networks are just showing all this stuff because Kobe Bryant just retired and and I'm like the. There's there's a part of my brain that's like we get a guys. He's not playing basketball anymore. The Guy didn't die and then you're like no. He did die. Oh my God he really actually died But that's that's where my mind kept going is like he can't actually be dead but I think again. I think this is like a general sentiment. You can't envision a world where Kobe Bryant is not alive and Kobe Bryant is not an NBA. Kobe Bryant is not an elder statesman in the NBA. Mentoring during all these kids that are coming into the League That was his destiny and that was not even NBA just like basketball at large. I think one of the more fascinating things about him and and certainly why the basketball world is like so torn up is not just that he was a great player. Great players come and go. We're Kobe falls on the list of the best player. Ever in the top. Twenty five. Who Really Cares But there will be played better than Kobe. Bryant that come along that some say they're already in the NBA. Whatever what was so cool about him was he was one of those those guys that that if you if you are invested in basketball as much as you and I are and I'm not quite enough to the NBA Hall of famers? I'm just saying we are very much basketball guys and have been her whole life. There's this affinity for the game quote unquote and it's all about the game and we made jokes about this with Rick Pitino and When he was defending himself from all scandals he would always say like? I never cheated the game and and that's just like A. There's a common thread between everyone who whose life whose livelihood is basketball is this this Appreciation preserving the game of teaching the game. The game is so important and Kobe was a guy who who understood that who just like live that who when he retired variously could have taken his money and ran. Dan Could've done whatever you wanted to do. But it was all about the game and he passed away doing that like he wanted to go into his daughters game. He he's paying four hundred coaches daughters not yet. Yeah and this was always like in that that to me is not an insignificant detail. I think like we were watching this tonight. I wrote this down this one note. I WanNa make sure I had because we were watching the final game that was playing there on. ESPN and magic is the speech before the game starts and in his speech one of the very first thing he said is Kobe. Bryant is never cheated the game so this is this is what I made Kevin Durant says. Thank you for everything you've done for. The game of Basketball Steph says. Kobe has had a huge impact on the game. And the game is in a much better place because of what you've done and these are just the over and over and fill called him in embassador about this was before he passed away. This is his final game That he ever played an MBA. That kind of stuff a a is is it it matters in why it resonates so much. Why all these young guys that are in the NBA? That didn't necessarily play with Kobe. And I I know. We had a lot of relationships with a lot of the guys but some of them there was just like and they're still torn up because it's not just their idol. It's like their mentor as well. And it's this ambassador for basketball all that that you know if if Kobe Bryant could have been commissioner and then be in no one would have better night and if you would brian it'd be Magic Johnson. Standing in the middle of Yes yes center congratulating someone else twenty years writers. You know twenty years from now that is who is supposed to be. He's supposed to be the next man he's supposed to be the next ambassador for the Lakers and I think thank you talked about. He could have taken his ball and gone home and just let it be if there was any reason to do that. It's because Lebron James came to the Lakers right. It took that that it took took his throne quoting the one now and instead of doing that and being that way which I'm I'm the biggest Michael Jordan fan probably around honestly like got low Michael Jordan. I don't say anything bad about him Mug. which would would not have done that? If if Kobe Bryant on the Chicago Bulls and tried to take his throne but koby sitting front row they right. He's stepping up Lebron on because again. It's about the game because again I think the biggest knock on Kobe's the biggest miss I. I think a lot of people that are great. There is always misconceptions about who they are. And what their motivations relations are and I think the biggest misconception about Kobe. Bryant's motivations were that. They were selfish and they were not so they were. Never retrospect and this is probably the biggest air the media people made and and I'm sure they're reflecting and thinking this is is yeah. They weren't selfish. They were again for the game. This is why like the whole beef with shack like when it happened. I was shack guy so I was like you know I'm signed Michelle Akers the heat and I was like yeah. I probably didn't love Kobe at that time But looking back you're like of course the shack. Kobe like to give anything less than your best. Is Steve Prefontaine to anything. Less than your best is a sacrifice of the gift that was Kobe's mentality if shacks mentality is like I'm already the greatest variety one titles. I WanNa have some fun. I'M GONNA make some movies. I'M GONNA make rap albums. I'm GONNA on enjoy celebrity status. Kobe was like I'm I play the game. I I respect the game. That's all I care about and a lot of ways durant's that way right now and and I think it's interesting that that I mean I don't know if this is the foreign to make that point but like the ranch strikes me in the same way that people hate him so much and and he's he's so vilified for for you know could join in the war you're beginning selfish decision for making selfish decision. And it's about him getting the ring whereas like he's been consistent with his approach the whole time he's like I just love the game and like going into the warriors wasn't about necessarily winning her ring. Warriors made him fall back in love with basketball. Yeah it was about basketball worry. He was the game in which is why I found it fascinating that even in that goodbye. That was the one the one comment that durant had was. Thank you for everything you've done for the game because durant has has the similar makeup of like my life is the game of basketball and always will the and and Kobe was that way which is why it wasn't. NBA Basketball his. His breach to colleges is shocking. His impact on the college game his impact on Women's and basketball like obviously with his daughters but to see all the tributes pouring in from all the women's programs around the country and it's not just because of his daughter. You know like I don't think I don't think you can. In in Oregon was torn up by the Oregon Oregon State Game I saw and I'm probably missing some others. There's been so much stuff to consume these last couple of today's but I don't think that was exclusively because his daughter was a good player. I think that was just in Kobe. Bryant DNA that he wanted to to make the game of basketball at all levels all all genders all everything International at home whatever whatever it is the game of basketball matter greatly to this man and he was going to give his life to it and he ultimately really did and I think I was talking about people viewing Kobe selfish. And I think I'm the biggest culprit of that because I remember two thousand two when they were going for the three peat. I did now with the Lakers. To get a three peat. Because I thought that was very special and immortalized with my yard and he had done it. You know the first time around ninety one nine two nine three then came back and did a good ninety six ninety seven ninety eight and when Kobe was going for that the fourth game. They're going for this week. The Nets are not great. You know what I mean. They're just happy to be here at this point. And the fourth game he comes in a full Michael Jordan Jordan. He's wearing a Michael Jordan jerseys or in Chicago Wolves everything and at the time I found that you know I'm ten years old or whatever I was and I and and I was hurt by that because I thought that he was trying to say like I am him now and what if you look back what has been after the game of basketball to twenty sixteen since. He's left half the game and what Kobe is done and what he said after that. We're talking about the fact that he respected the way that Michael Jordan was able to be that much of a competitor to be Michael Jordan to the green that he wanted to idolize that person. And it's so funny. I was watching that footage behind the scenes and Kobe's wearing the stuff in there after the game and shack says to him. He's like it's about time you put on Your Jersey Ray and Co we just starts laughing says about that time. He's like smoking cigars and he's had a little moment and it's like 'cause Kobe Bryant wasn't doing he was wearing the join orange because he was trying to think about Kobe Bryant. At that moment he was wearing a because he was like my idol. Who I saw new this to be a champion? I have this moment now. I made it to this point. I want to pay homage to him into the game that we are here. We are the next iteration with the baton has been passed to us. And that obviously doesn't trigger with you and your you view him as like an enemy or whatever and I was pulling for the nets at the time but then seeing that moment checks into that him to him seeing his reaction it was almost like you finally got the Pat on the back. You know what I like is if he'd been waiting for shack say that to him right 'cause they were obviously running mates shocking for the second chip lily points at. Kobe won times. Like that's the reason we won this shape. Yeah he's the one that's running this team. It's not me even though he's probably the best player on the team but koby he loved the game will Michael Did and he wanted to be that. I mean maybe a silver lie. Yeah I mean this is again like there are no silver lining. This is horrible. It's devastating all that kind of stuff but It would be cool if a lesson we could all learn from this is like stop ranking players. Who gives who cares who cares who cares really? We don't we don't need to sort through. I think he'll be was better that he shouldn't have won the MVP in two thousand six. You know what I mean. It's like who came out like the lesson you learn is like all these guys generally do just love the gate like Lebron Kobe Hobie Jordan. Maybe they do care. Maybe the but I don't think they do. I really generally don't think that the Kobe Bryant cares whether he thought of is better than Michael Jordan or Lebron. Brian James I really don't i. I think. Kobe Bryant cared about. I'm going to give everything I have to this game for. As long as I'm on this earth and however people won't see my legacy I'll l.. Leave that to them. I don't care I'm I wanNA know that I gave it my all and And he respects like like you said like he obviously allies Jordan. He wanted to be Jordan. He said I'm going to be my onshore. Basically and he did become Michael Jordan as as close as anyone's ever come to Michael Jordan all the way down to the mannerisms of the way and it felt dizziness at the time. But in as you look back and you see Z.. Everything it's like no. This guy was literally studying. Michael Tracy McGrady told this whole story. It was like when he met Kobe when they were younger. He went to his house with Joe and everyone and he was like. We're watching 'EM J. taped together. And he's that I've never seen someone start like rewinding to go back to play and you look at him. I was wrong with this guy and like Kobe's watching tape. When he's supposed is be watched right 'cause he was that infatuated with the idea of being great and now he and now he feels that felt that way by the Brun? There's no part of him. That's lakes. Screw this kid. That's taken over my franchise and whatever and the same is true of Jordan to both of those guys like Jordan is and I mean I think as fans you just you just assume that all of these guys guys hate each other and and but but as it turns out the fans care way more Colson patriots fans care way more about Tom Brady versus paid man in the Tom. Brady Payton Manning I've ever ever cared. They've both just like you know like we're happy to the great who they're both like. Joe Montana whatever I did not WANNA play. Yeah Yeah Yeah what it comes down to this day bird magic. WHO's better like neither one of those guys cares? WHO's better they they they will both you know and I know people probably listen to this? And they're like you can't. I actually believe that I guarantee that Jordan wants to. I don't I don't necessarily think that's true to be honest with you. I think Jordan probably quite like of course they're going to talk trash of course if you got all those guys is on the court at the same time. They're going to think that they're the best but as far as like keeping them up at night. There's no way there's no way that like Michael Jordan is losing sleep saying like is Lebron James. Going going to take over my legacy as the greatest ever know it. It's it's it's stupid it's stupid it's a waste of time for everyone and when you see today and you had this conversation now it does seem completely like a waste of time. I kinda WanNa talk about the told you about the Kobe. Bean and middle child. It's kind of funny. 'cause like Michael's a black cat Kobe's the black Mamba Ombu and then Harrison. Barnes is the Black Falcon. Those those those are the those are the three black nicknames that they got black cap like Mama blog and hair call to the Black Falcon. Yes when he was check this fact check it. This was like coming out of high school. This was like in. Kobe gave him the cosign. Any war Kobe's at Carolina. Much to the Chagrin of Michael Jordan. Every single time. We saw that team he would say. Take Them Damn said. The Harrison Barnes and I sail is to say Kobe Bryant was the Black Mamba. For the reason that you never know Mama was going to strike a mama's not provoked a Mamba just strikes. Yeah and Kobe. Bryant's entire career was kind of like that. You couldn't really believe that he became what he said he was going to become. You couldn't believe that in these moments and these crunch time moments that he genuinely wanted the basketball and you go back and you study who Kobe. Bryant was his meditation and there's a lot the people that are going to get freaked out by this whole conversation right now but the quantum field exists right. We live in. Let's go there. Yeah this is the three dimensional round we live in and there is the fifth dimension and many more dimensions. If you in your mind can create it and Kobe. Bryant is one of those people you read his Reno interviews with them from the ninety s because I just wanted to see how much this man was. Basically a prognosticator Peter for his entire career saying I want to hit this benchmark. I wouldn't do that. He said he wanted me the greatest all sort of all time. He leads the All Star game in points like all the time. Vp All starve. All this sort of to start predicting this stuff you would talk about interviews and I'm not saying that Kobe. Bryant is a ascended to a different realm of reality. I'm not saying that he is in a different different field The quantum field does exist of course but he may have at times he may have ascended to a different level because Gilbert Arenas told his amazing story in two thousand six he worked out with Kobe Bryant and he said he stole all of his moves. Right he was like a left that practice. And he's and he's like Kobe Bryant stole my Moussaoui's mad and he said he came back the next day Eh and Kobe Bryant was doing all of his moves to him and he was like getting more frustrating. He's like this guy's doing he's like beating me as me right. He's he's recognize me and it was all a mental game amen. Kobe's mind and that's like that to me is like the brain of into Kobe. Bryant's brain in his mind in his mental makeup. It may be board than Michael Jordan's like my Jordan was so straight-forward like I just WanNa win. I'm Dick Michael Jordan Vault inside the box. I'm GonNa beat this guy I'm GonNa go on this site dimensions. Yeah he'll be was a fifth dimensional thinkers and the fifth dimension which is saying which is why we thought is immortal. Yes because all all these things that you just explained like like would who who who who. Who does this like possible? It's all I know. That's why I was dismissing. Even when Kobe in two thousand was an eight when they lost the Celtics and he said they were gonNA come back and win a title the next year I was telling you I was like I thought that was there. One shot like I was like. Oh Yeah it's it's back back the Mamba Mentality did. It's I will say this like I probably rolled my eyes. Like as the Mama mentality was taken off was was the snarky est years of my life. 'cause I was in my early twenty S. Everything is the dumbest thing on earth. The South Park the episode. Where everything is this crap? Remember when stand sues everything that was that was metering the Italians and as I've gotten older and and look back on it all and everything like the one crazy lesson about Kobe Bryant that I take from from everything that his approach to the game approach to life. All that kind of stuff was was a lesson that I learned way too late in life. And I'm I'm only thirty two. I'm not super old but I wish I would have known this when I was younger. which is the process is so much more important to focus on than the result and he was always that way where he like? I said his goal wasn't necessarily he. He's he's not I don't I don't think it consumed him to be the greatest of all time and in the sense of like if I'm not the greatest of all time among the failure well he was more focused on. I'M GONNA wake up today and I'm GonNa Bust my ass to be as good as I can possibly the B. and I'm GonNa do that tomorrow and I'm going to the next day and I'm GonNa live my entire life. I'm more focused on the process and however it shakes out. I can't control that. I can't control what the results are. Which is why I think you so fearless when he took last second shots? 'CAUSE HE's like I've prepared myself to get to this point whether it goes into not is ultimately not up to me at this point. I'm GONNA shoot it. I I've I've done all the work. If the result is not the end result that I wanted. I'm not going to focus on that because tomorrow if we if this shot kicks us out of the playoff tomorrow. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be working and when the next next opportunity comes on we'll be ready for that one and this was something that that in my life. I was the exact opposite. I was the guy who I would much rather take a class for example school and get an a plus and not exert ounce of effort than like a B. plus learn a ton of stuff and and and you know feel fulfilled from whatever that experience. This was And I don't know that's like something I will take with me. Not just like I've I've been trying to like really think that way in my life and Kobe I'm not going to pretend I'm like I have Kobe pictures on my wall. And he's like an inspiration in my life but that certainly is that approach People who do that. I admire so greatly because I don't know that's like the Big Gillespie I would i. I give the people and I know we have a lot of like younger listeners. In High School and college kids so I don I don't mean to be your parents lecturing here but that is that is something that I think. it's super super important in the younger. You learn that that that success is not measured by the end result. Like don't don't look like did I. Did I cheat. Don't all set. Don't make your goal like this. This definitive thing. I don't think this is my view maker goal like to honestly try your best and it sounds so stupid and hacky coming from you know usually when you hear. It's your third grade teacher like just try your best and follow your dreams and all that. But as I've gotten older I see how true that is that the the process if you to stay true to the process success zest will come and go. But in the end you'll you'll figure it out and everything will click and your legacy whatever that may be. Leave that up to others to decide. Because you'll know that that you you know when it's all said and done you you gave it all yet. My response agreed one hundred percent of that but the funniest thing I can think about what the Kobe situation in the conversation around. Kobe is like every single person. Whenever you're lying right and someone calls you on it? The first thing you do is try to explain what happened which is to say that you lied. And you're gonNa tell tell Y Y you're gonNA defend what you said. That's not a lie. Here's what and with Kobe. Bryant my favorite thing about him since he left the game of basketball in two thousand sixteen is every single the time he would sit down and they would ask him GonNa come back lovie. You're gonNA come back yet. You'RE GONNA do this Lebron's come and you WANNA play. Lebron you do this. He'd never wavered in the sense that it wasn't even a thought and I think a lot of times guys will hanging up. Even you know Michael Jordan did this. He hung it up and then he sat around and he said I don't know what to do with myself. I need to come back to the game of basketball. Kobe Bryant had exerted so much effort and expanded every single ounce of himself on the basketball court that he knew there was nothing else. There's nothing else and I don't know how many people we've had that in the sports world that has been so content at the end but that point it would be very easy for him to say. Okay Michael had six. I had five live. I have to keep going until I get into. But that wasn't that's what I'm saying. It's not that's a results oriented way of thinking about it is like I have to win as many titles as Michael Well did or else. I'm a failure the Mamba mentality in my eyes. The Way I interpret the moment holiday is don't look at the titles that's that's the byproduct that is not the that that is not what you are trying to do. Is Dimensional results three-dimensional. Yes do the five dimensional focus on the process. Give it your all and when you're out you're out that's it's it and it's over and whether you one zero titles or five or twelve It's irrelevant because you did. All of that is left to chance to certain extent it matters like what franchise as you drafted to who your teammates are all sorts of factors factor into how many titles you win All that stuff. You can't control to certain extent you. Could you know as much as people I think one player can win basketball games. That's not true. There's a lot of outside forces that go into that. What would there are no outside forces go into is is the effort you exert every day like how much? You're devoting your life to this purpose. You've you're striving to achieve And he was consistent with that every step of the way as you said even in all star are games which is like honestly that you can boil his legacy down to that is like the guy busted his all star All Star Games because he he doesn't know any other way he's like I'm out here. I'M GONNA kill everybody because that's what I do and I don't I can't I can't take plays off. It's not my DNA any never has any never will and I'll tell you this like the Charlotte. Hornets drafted Kobe Bryant thirteenth overall. If Kobe Bryant go onto the Charlotte Hornets. I don't know if you won five championships. I don't know what the the end result would have been but I don't think the Charlotte Hornets would have sold the franchise. I don't I will tell you this like Kobe. Bryant was that much of a transcendent person in the building around around other people. And that is why. You've seen the Lakers. They can't even really they've been really put out a full response yet because there's so many people in the building that don't view Kobe Bryant as the superstar player on the the court you. Kobe Bryant Kobe going around the office. Hopes dabbing up. Who So until you hear this about people that that I know plenty of people in this industry. True that that don't let didn't love Kobe. And then they meet him and they're like he's the most charismatic guy like the guy when you over so easily and he would answer for the Shit you would column on. Yeah like that was the thing with Kobe. He would like when Tracy McGrady says he came down L. Mode being my sore bag Kobe's laughing. He's like yeah he's like. I just want to see if your back was okay. Okay like that old ribbing and like Luke donkeys early in the year and I know this is more new age stuff but he was like speaking Serbian with Kobe. Kobe Bryant was so much of an ambassador of basketball globally. The vast this guy is so big in Italy that their morning him an entire country in Italy like you you think about Kobe in North Carolina. How Big Yoda's like in China? I mean this is like they're losing an assault. Real Madrid was like today practice at a moment of silence. A goal for in two thousand four celebration. I mean just the reach of this man and I. It's I feel like it became a book like a joke at times. You know like it was more fun because every wants to poke fun at everyone especially Geico because he is so self serious. Yeah the reason that he was so self serious was because there were not as often as my look at the away two thousand eight at the Olympics in Beijing. The rest of the team is younger. Dwayne Lebron guys and you can tell that they're like trying to get there like older friend Kobe in on the game and he's just kind of like what you thought you thought you know. I I think I I shouldn't say you. I thought at times it was performance. I thought like coby was again what he's supposed to he was. He knew that the cameras in his face. And he's trying to be Jordan. Because this is like Jordan would straight face. I'm GONNA have a straight face and as the years go by again. He's just consistent no matter what the thing he's talking about his was daughters. I basketball team. And he's got that same like fire in his eyes as he talks about that. You realize Oh my God this is just this way this is just how he's wired. It's it's incredible. I remember one of those times. We were at dinner dinner With Roy Hibbert and we ask them about Kobe practice and it was the infamous Kobe. Like he's yelling at Mitch Cup Jack. He's like gets. Give these bums Outta here. You know in two thousand fourteen year. Wasn't there terrible that they're gonNA get Diangelo Russel in the draft next year. And he's basically spending the entire practice young emiss- cryptic about how terrible Jordan Hill and the rest. The team is you know. He's like Jordan. Clarkson terrible nick youngster. He's like putting everybody out and just saying their garbage their bombs like I came in practice with these guys and a lot of people were saying. Oh he knew the cameras were there where he knew cup was there. He's doing this. Offer the cameras and then we asked Roy Hibbert he was like no. That's just Kobe. This is every single day. Pretty Light Day you know for what he usually would say he probably toned it down because the cameras and that pretty much speaks volume to who Kobe was and he also again going back to the whole middle child thing. He got the Jordan generation to do the Lebron generation like without Kobe Bryant and without Tim Duncan those two guys together they're the NBA does not survive. Say That magic and bird were able to come in the seventies and make that happen. been like they were the bridge years and you think of them as bridge years. But they're now they're beautiful games. Spurs Lakers Robbery General Unbelievable in the Kings in the early two thousand thousands of trailblazer. All these games and moments that Kobe like he had so many he had nine lives. I mean he was just like all over the place and everything time you kinda thought this might be the end. Even when he toured the killers in two thousand twelve against the warriors and he cares. Barnes Black Falcon Garden Him and he goes and shoots the free throws. I didn't think this is the last ever Koby Compete for championships. Kogo go back. The next year is finally find a way always who knows. Oh man it's it's brew it's been crazy just like drive around L. A. Today and a little bit yesterday just driving past murals and Again like it being in. La for is wild. I can't yeah I don't know what the experiences outside of. La I don't maybe it's the same maybe people in other cities it's the same GonNa but there's definitely like a somber mood you see people wearing his. I must have seen thirty Kobe jerseys today. I didn't really do anything kind of set my apartment. Go out take Moses on a walk and you'd see people it's it's it's I I don't know I. I was speechless for the longest time. I don't think it's ever really gonNA sit in sink in But I I don't know maybe there are lessons to learn from this like the the the craziest thing is like the NBA's playing games. And I was talking to one friend about this like I can't believe they were playing games. They Koga would want them to play and I was like. Yeah but I get like Kobe. Kobe mentality would be like playthrough. Like whatever just always play like wouldn't cope also want his friends to like the people that I love him to not be like torn up to by Franco's now Kobe won. You tell them to stop crying. I mean man up and get your ass out there and play was that he was like damn true. Sounds like you were Chris. Paul was at practice. And he's like I can't planet is game like Coby Brown like you know. Get your ass up there. Yeah what are you trying about how he's always been and that's why you talk about forty one years right. I mean twenty of those twenty or forty one years respect in the national almost half his life or in the NBA Which means it was public for all of us to watch but the of all the things that he did in those forty one years I mean that is a full life in forty one in years has made won an Oscar? This man has a sports academy already set up. This man has his Jersey Jersey's retired. This is getting inducted in the hall of fame this year. All of these things that that all came together in that have already been checked off. I it just makes it all even more surreal. Because you just can't believe even watching the final game. It felt like like it was a professional four Kobe Bryant. It's crazy to think of what society the world. What what were you missed out on because you know that they were saying that at the final game like whatever you do next is you're going to have the black mom rheumatology? You're going to be great at it like you said he's been out of out of basketball for almost four years yet. Barely anytime at all is already won an Oscar Who the hell knows what the next thirty years of Kobe? Bryant's life what he would have done. A impact he would have had just gotTa underscores like people are not resources you know I think like you People human beings are not trees in a forest where one gets cut down your like. Who Cares we'll just play another one That's why the losses so devastating is. Because is I think. Most people who've been paying attention realized that Kobe Bryant wasn't just a guy who scored a lot of points and and stuck his bottom jen out or bottom teeth out when in when he hit big shots and that was all he was like. Most people are paying attention realize that humanity lost like a very very valuable asset. And you can't get that back you. I can't replicate it. There will be other great people in this world who will do great things. There will never be another Koby Bryant who Just was wired the way he was and and had the impact impact he had on so many people and I think that's what really sinks in and socks and there's really no other way to put a sock so there's no other way to put it. I I feel like just moving forward into like what is the legacy of Kobe. Bryant those conversations and we talked about this. I mean that is for the hall of fame. That is four right now. It it still Grievances still grieving. It's still you know us trying to piece together and put together. What is the Kobe Bryant? Who He was and where he was at the stage in life and bringing back to the Black Mamba mentality? I think that that mentality actually had shifted a bunch and I think and I'll say this because you're talking about De Koby WanNa be the goat or have six. I think in two thousand the six. Have you talked to Kobe. Bryant absolutely one hundred percent. You're probably right. There's no if ands or buts about that. Probably in his mind because he was so locked in on this larger vision but since he left the game of basketball a lot of people leave and they don't know what to do with themselves he completely dedicated himself to his family. From what we've seen any completely was all in on Gee's career and I think knows much as this is a Kobe Bryant. podcast the basketball podcast and as much as Kobe. Bryant is an ambassador for the game of basketball men's basketball. He was an even bigger ambassador for the game of women's basketball and with G. G. and with Kobe and with the idea that Kobe was the biggest cosign of the WNBA. They just got this huge raise. For All the players and G G was Wanting to play a Yukon we've seen the Yukon Tennessee rivalry tried to get sparked backup and women's basketball. There were all these dominoes. Were falling the right way for you. Know Kobe Kobe g g the Ma all this sort of stuff and I don't think that it will be lost if that makes it and if anything it may be a complete wave from this because everyone everyone that met g g a friend of mine. His son was friends with G G. She was like Kobe. She was charismatic. She was different she played. I'd like him. She talked like him she they had. They're all little handshakes and moments and in meaningful things and I think no. There were nine people that were lost in a helicopter crash. And we don't want to lose sight of that that but the game of basketball itself gee-gee Bryant and Kobe Bryant both together what they will do and represent for the game of basketball. I think will ascend anything like we've seen quite some time. Yeah Yeah and I do believe that. my my thought on. It is I I've spoken publicly many times about my my I battle with depression and mental illness. And all that. There's one book to change my life and it's not A. It's a pretty famous book. If if you're well read a Mansard for meaning it was written by frink Viktor Frankl. I'm sure you've heard of it. There is a Holocaust survivor for those who don't know go by the book. Go read the book if you haven't if thirty times go read it again. It's it's the the best book I've ever read by far and Viktor Frankl is a Holocaust survivor. And he's writing about like basically. The premise of the book is like what is it at that that made him not give up on on struggles in life and you're facing just unbelievable diversity and you still continue to See the light at the end of the tunnel. What is in that that keeps us going? And his his thesis ultimate these. There are three things in life that that gives us purpose and one is love and loving people around you and finding an nurturing those relationships the other is your work creating things and and pour yourself into into to contributing to society and all that kind of stuff and the third is courage in times of difficulty and in his instance that would be the Holocaust and for me. I felt like if you can. If you can do any one of those things you have a purpose. In life and you can find fulfillment through any one of those avenues. Whether it's just like if your if your father just love your son or daughter and like that in and of itself is enough to keep you going everyday. Kobe Bryant to me did all three and he did it. With every ounce what's of of energy and determination that he had I mean and a lot of ways he didn't have a ton of struggles in life. He was rich kid and all that kind of stuff but you almost like created his own struggles. He would put like his own obstacles in front of him and he would say this is something that that is important to me to have that drive to to overcome these obstacles That was just how it was wired like his work and the obstacle part of it. We're sort of one of the same but He he had the three headed approach to that. I mean he loved his family as as we know it was that was well documented. How much she loved? The the family has his work is unparalleled And and his courage in the time of struggle so many times so many guys that kills thanks very easy to pack it in. He knew he had more in the thank. You came back I don't know how many guys would have done that at that age But but that's just how he was wired and that is why to me will be his legacy and I find it fascinating and not coincidental incidental. That when when so many people were remembered him yesterday and today and all that You didn't see a lot of people talk about Kobe and say like that. was you know like we're GonNa Miss. Kobe won five titles. We're GONNA Miss Kobe because he had thirty thousand plus points will mess up. Some of those people didn't even realize how much he had because his none of it matters because ultimately your legacy in this life is the love that you give along the way and this man loved his family. He loved the game of basketball. He loves those around him And that will continue on forever and that is true. All of us I think part of me would like as I was going through my existential crisis. Part of this whole this whole process as you look around and you you you wonder why world isn't stopping and a lot of ways it was like an are circles it was the world stopped but the world at large doesn't stop we could well. We're GONNA leave this podcast studio. We're GONNA drive around Los Angeles and they're gonna the people that are just trying to go to their job and get home to their kids and I I literally today a breakfast It had been twenty four hours since the news broke. I was sitting the table over. A woman was on her phone own and she said across from the Guy and she dropped her Georgios. Oh my God. Kobe die and the guy was like. What are you talking about yes? You're not paying attention new. She's like I had no idea and It kind of like like I'm sitting there thinking. How could nobody had any idea? This is the world should stop. We should all. We should cancel all everything not just basketball games like literally. Cancel everything this is monumental but the world doesn't stop and I think that becomes overwhelming because for me at first it was overwhelming. Because you think like if this guy guide doesn't ascend to a level that that All of society kind of stops pauses in reflects than what hoped though I have as just a lowly guy than I I am but then it becomes like free and when you realize that like you don't need to worry about all this stuff you don't need to worry about like if I acquire a certain level of wealth there're certain level of status in society. Then I will be like God like and the whole world revolves around me. That's impossible. You can't do that. You'll never be able to do that life. So instead of trying to acquire that stuff start focusing on the stuff that matters which is the love of the people around you and all that kind of stuff and I don't know if this was. I don't know if that was the the right time for for monologue but that is that is my lasting memories of Kobe. And why I don't think anyone it's a coincidence. That people weren't really focusing on the basketball part as much as they were focusing on his love for his daughter. His his all of his other stuff is Mama mentality. All that kind of stuff is ultimately. What's going to be his legacy and Kobe Bryant? Every single day when I remember he was on interview one time he said my goal of every single day is to be better. I wake up every that'd be better and that's exactly the approach. They took to everything and everything you just said I completely agree with within it is honestly It is one of the biggest tragedies of my entire life Just from everything. We've talked about here but just seeing and in living and being a part of this moment Kobe Bryant will never be forgotten Kobe. Brian will always be larger than life. Kobe Bryant was larger than life when he was here. I think that is is one thing as you reflect on Kobe Bryant you realized how large he was and how great he was and how much he was able to take a game. This is just a game just a game. You're putting a ball through a metal ring. It's supposed to game and to take that and extrapolate it out into life into find those relationships those love that love that Eddie found and all these other things I do find it very beautiful I think back to I was involved with this program called. NCA first team. And I talked about it on an older rations podcast. I think I was talking about trae young at the time when when I brought this up the used to say this this mantra over and over in this program when I was in high school run by the. NCAA was basically like his program to help a As I said I pretty before everyone else when I was in eighth grade I was considered to be. They looked at me and they identified me as a guy that was going to be a big time. Recruit they big swing and missile. Oh now on but The program was basically take all all these eighth graders that are going to be big time recruits. We're GONNA nurture them through high school. Make sure they don't through things up in the mantra the stuck with me and we'll stick with the rest of my life us basketball. Do not let basketball US you And that that just resonated with me forever. It's it's it's why I'm here right now because I I I was not very good at basketball eventually But I knew how to use it to Kinda get where I needed to go. That was Kobe Bryant. He's like used basketball but at the same time he poured just it's as much as he was taken away from the game and using it to like impact people outside of 'cause as you said it just for putting a ball through a metal ring yet you have people all over the world and morning And it's not because they love his fadeaway jump shot that is not why people are upset and sad about this It goes way beyond that and I don't know it sucks. It's it's a terrible okay. I will say this date. I'm not a betting man but I do wanna put every dime. I own on the Lakers title because the NBA is going to find a way there's Lebron ad can't find away the NBA will find. There's only two alternatives. I remember the last thing Takubo hadn't said to let Kobe said he was. It's time to win a championship. Janas deleted all the social the media after this moment with no one's heard anything from Jaanus. Basically Jaanus or the Lakers who is going to be more fueled by Kobe but whoever wins the championship we'll be discussing the Kobe. Bryant legend Kobe Bryant Story and You know I think that that will live on for a lot longer than a lot of us anything else before we hit it all we can get some shutouts and close out so we need to. I JUST WANNA shout out trae young. You mentioned him and him wearing number eight I it just more of all of the acts our down the basketball court trae young number eight G. G. saying that trae young was her favorite player on a basketball court and for him to go out and drive forty five points and had this amazing game. I know it's really hard to play under the circumstances but that's what Kobe. Who Won't we talked about that earlier? Coby Bryan watching and saw that game. Kobe Bryant's prouder trae young. And and I think there's the that's just one iteration of how many people you know Kinda stepped up and said I wanNA honor this man who made me fall in love with the game that we all love. And that's why you have to appreciate cope. I I don't really have anything else to say. I think I I left the Kobe would be proud of me. I left it all I under- percent Mama. metality this podcast. I had nothing else to say. Yeah we'll be back on Friday back to regularly scheduled Dick Jokes and and what have you and breakdowns of games between one thousand nine hundred the quote unquote amateur people. Being used people being used by basketball we will get back to that table. Dues PAC twelve update. Yes that it'll be on. Friday will bring it back on Friday but yeah we just wanted to. I don't know Kobe is he's an icon will be suck. So that's so you guys ready.

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378: Kobe Bryant on Cold Calling

Daily Sales Tips

02:05 min | 8 months ago

378: Kobe Bryant on Cold Calling

"You're listening to the daily sales tips. PODCAST I'm your host Scott Ingram. This is part two of a little three part tribute you to Kobe. Bryant started yesterday in tip number three seventy seven unfortunately. I don't have the audio of this but the crazy thing is I didn't even have have to look for this quote. It was sitting right in the middle of an article that I had pulled up. There's a link to that article. Daily sales dot tips forward slash three. He's seventy eight titled this one quote from Kobe. Bryant is all you need to know about his success and the quote is this. I'll just cold call. People absolutely absolutely. I'll just cold call. People pick their brain and stuff some of the questions that I'll ask. We'll seem really really simple stupid. Quite honestly for them. But what if I don't know I don't know you have to ask. I'll just do that. I'll just ask questions. And I want to know more about how they build their businesses and how they run their companies unease and how they see the world. There's been a lot written about Kobe's Mamba mentality but this is pretty epic. This might just be the greatest cold. Hold calling mentality. I've ever heard of course it's probably a little easier to get people like Oprah Winfrey Johnny to take your call when your name is Kobe Bryant but I think the lesson stance here. It is one more time. I'll just cold call people absolutely. I'll just cold call people and pick their brain about stuff. Some of the questions that I'll ask will seem really really simple and stupid. Quite honestly for them. But if I don't know I don't know you. You have to ask all just do that. I'll just ask questions. And I want to know more about how they build their businesses and how they run their companies and how they see the world tomorrow. I'll share one last clip from Kobe about legacy. That just absolutely speaks to me and I hope it speaks to you. Come on back tomorrow to hear that. Thanks thanks for listening.

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Hour 1: The Life of Kobe Bryant

Get Up!

46:43 min | 8 months ago

Hour 1: The Life of Kobe Bryant

"Uh good morning this is get up on. Espn Mike Greenberg. Laura Rutledge and as you see. We have our whole crew ready to go to here. We will get into some super bowl coverage for you this morning with Bobby Carpenter and Bart Scott Timmy. LEGLER's delivers here. Richard Jefferson is here because obviously the entire world of sports continues to mourn the death of Kobe Bryant and all the others in the helicopter crash in the Los Angeles area on Sunday. We have the very latest on the crash for you now. National Transportation Safety Board investigators confirm that the pilot was trying to climb above a layer of clouds before plunging into a canyon near Calabasas on the outskirts of Los Angeles. All nine victims have now been identified including the pilot of the helicopter. ESPN has confirmed. He is fifty year old Arizona. He had two decades of experience and had flown Kobe Bryant several times before meanwhile the makeshift shift memorial outside the Staples Center continues to grow the NBA has postponed. Tonight's game there between the Lakers and the clippers and across the NBA teams continued tended to pay tribute to Kobe. Bryant in Detroit the Pistons Were Jerseys with the number twenty four on them former Laker. Larry Nance junior seen crying on the cavs bench and re you treated to the locker room to collect himself during the game before eventually returning in Minnesota the timber wolves took an eight second violation and put the ball all at the foul line where Kobe Past Jay on all time scoring list former laker coach in Kobe teammate. Luke Walton looking on and the timberwolves fans showing their respect respect and in Dallas. Luca Donncha. Who talked with Kobe just last month? We're Kobe sneakers. wrote the names of all the victims in the crash on his shoes before the game. Here's Donncha Chech- on everything that Kobe meant to him. It was very emotional down after the first quarter. That's they just snap it was. It was really hard to. Kobe was a trailblazer. He was someone that I I looked up to my entire childhood wanting to be like him wanting the hit the last shots like him not only as a basketball player but just seeing how he matched into as a father I think all of us on this court court are really strive to be like that in our second careers image. It keeps coming back to my head is the footage of of Kobe and his daughter at the Lakers game him about a month ago when she's asking him questions and he's pointing things out and think about how beautiful that scene was and how many how many incredible times times they had ahead of them. He lived his life to the fullest every single day. And he's an absolute inspiration and I'm Honored to be able to call myself his friend and his teammates and his brother and all those things that came with the years we spent together. Lebron James took to instagram last night to share his thoughts which read in part. I'm not ready but here I go man just sitting here trying to write something for this post but every time I try I began crying again just thinking about you. Niece G G and the Friendship Bond Brotherhood that we had. I literally just heard your voice Sunday morning morning before I let Philly to head back to. La Didn't think for one bit in a million years. That would be the last conversation we'd have. I'm heartbroken and devastated my brother man. I love you big Bro. My heart goes to Vanessa and the kids. I promise you continue your legacy man. You mean so much to us all here especially LAKER nation. And it's my responsibility to put this on my back and keep it going. Meanwhile Kobe's former teammate. Shaquille O'Neal spoke on his podcast. Now I'm not doing well sick. You're watching all highlights and just trying to remiss immunise. We still are the best Dur. Recreate it that's not GonNa Change but I wish is sixty or seventy and folks home on the show we could talk about the only with NSF to me is. I'm not going to be there. He's not GonNa be here when he walks into the hall of fame. I was just thinking about. Who is he going to call up to bring them in? Who's WHO's GonNa give a speech as you're gonNA call call Mike who it's not gonNA happen? I have a little brother but I really lost her brother yesterday. One of the many things about this that I've been thinking about the last day or two's is that in March at the final four. I guess the beginning of April is when they announced this year's class the hall of fame and he most certainly is going to be among those so this is the year that he will go into the hall of fame and one can only imagine what that ceremony is going to be like as he goes in now posthumously again timmy. Legs and Richard Jefferson in jail. Start with you. We've not had a chance to talk with you here. You're in La Guy you make your home there. You played against him in the finals playing for for the nets once upon a time. Just what are your thoughts today. It's been tough right and I'm not a person that's typically short for words but when you you know my parents are from Philly and growing up they enjoyed watching him. And then my kids who are addicted to bass won't even at five and when you see a five year old not fully processing. What's what's going on up into a seventy year old not processing? And that's the reach that he add people grew up watching and people loved him in so many different ways and so to have this and to see the impact of his daughter and all the other families there were you know entire families mom and dad and daughter lost in in the crash. And there's so many kids and so many people affected it's just it's hard to understand what's going on right now. You're telling us this morning and you and he shared among other things Common bond of having coached your kids that you did that and that you and he talked a lot about that and I know that's one of the things that's on your mind today. Yeah I think that's the thing that keeps haunting me that I can't escape escape. Is I think about as players professional athlete of the sacrifices you make in terms of your family the time commitment that you have to do that at at that level for that long. You're obsessed with the time. You're a kid you miss things and I'm not talking about birthdays and holidays because you could celebrate those things at a different day before you take attended attend a road trip. I'm talking about the little things being around your kids. You're eating cereal watching. TV and they say something funny being games things like that. You Miss Things so as careers winding down. You start to make that transition and you can't wait to make up for those things and to spend all that time with your family and when it comes to coaching I was is able to do that. I'm so blessed and some of the greatest memories I will have my entire life and they bond. I have with both of my children. I got to do that. I think about the car rides and the plane rides and the hotels and the practices practices and all of those tournaments. All of those things. The best part about it was we were doing it together. And so when I see the commitment that he had to make that happen for his daughter and the other kids with the academy that he opened up what haunts me is that I know how much he was looking forward to that phase of his life and he deserved to have if that's so much because of what he gave to the game and he's not going to be able to do that and that's the part that really wells up the emotion in me and I'm so grateful that I had the opportunity to do that with my kids and no no Kobe's looking forward to that same faced yesterday on I take molly. Rose asked a question that I think struck both of us. That was what was it about Kobe that it made all of us feel like we knew him in some way and inspired everybody. This glue that held people together. How would you answer that question? Well was it out and we watch them grow up you know everyone especially in. La with all the bright lights and there's a brotherhood of guys that go straight to the NBA. No different than guys at all come from Arizona. A- all come from North Carolina there's a brotherhood and so when you watch him at seventeen years will be one of the most dynamic athletes and the entire world watched him grow up in La and not only not only make mistakes but also go and work tirelessly and become a champion in an MVP. We watched his entire life almost like it was a reality the show in La so everyone is connected to him. And then you just watch the again the Oscars and the Hollywood walk of fame like he him in La were so interconnected but he also had roots you know on the east coast so it was just. There was so much about coby that just spread throughout. He was one of the first players to go. Go to China and say like Hey. I'm going to make my mark here and I'm going to help grow the game of basketball so internationally people are morning. I think you're onto something here. Two legs I tried to mention this yesterday. But there's just so many people that have so many different thoughts but in my Comparatively limited experience with him. He struck me. He's happier now in his life than he ever was when he was playing. I interviewed him probably fifteen times while he was playing and spent a couple of a few events with him afterwards. Were you spend some time away from everyone else and I think it's exactly what you're talking about that he had. He had done everything he set out to do. He had accomplished that and he was genuinely. A person says I had climbed that mountain. Now I'm looking to the next mountain and he didn't think that much about his past he really was looking forward to his future and it does all the things you were talking about among others. I mean he had all sorts of aspirations in the world of entertainment and many other business interests but it was this primarily is being with his family that I think brought him a lot of joy and delight of all the things that bother me about this that I think is what bothers me the most no question and I think you know you never know what your children are going going to fall in love with that you also loved. You don't know that neither do some to it and we'll see if they take to it so that have his daughter fall in love with something that he built his life around. I can't imagine how rewarding it was for him. How special that was? And that bond was for him and you think about guys on that level I think the process for him as a player a a lot of that is you know the exile of fear of failure and in some ways. You're more relieved not to fail. Then you get the joy out of winning when you get to this phase as your life. That's gone that's why we saw the content. He was how happy he was to make the transition to the next phase of his life because he gave everything he had never cheated it for a second second. Now it's let's pass it on now here and let me spend this time with my family in a very relaxed state of mind though fear of failure here and I think you know greatness tightness that's often the case so a little later this morning legs was telling us a story today that I want him to share here that you were playing pickup basketball with Kobe Bryant when he was fifteen years old and you were in the NBA so magnificent store and we will get to that but one of the overarching story. Lines here is that the Lakers were supposed to play tonight at home against the clippers. By now I'm sure. Are you aware that game has been postponed and I wanNA bring Adrian Origin Ascii here are NBA insider with that. Why did the League ultimately decided to postpone the game tonight? Greenie essentially essentially because the Lakers. Ask them if they could do that. And told the League and the clippers. We're not ready to play this game. We're not ready to host. What would really be an event of some magnitude So quickly after Kobe's passing the clippers acquiesced to this and the Lakers now will open up they'll play again on Friday against Portland on. ESPN and of course. The postponement date is made easier. Because it's two two teams in the same city who share the same arena. It's easier to find a date to play this game again. That doesn't disrupt their schedules all right. So there's that piece of it and as you say they will take to the court again on Friday and let me tell you have a piece on. ESPN DOT COM. That went up just a short time ago about coby being about your experiences with him. Is there one story from that. That you'd like to share Walgreen. I I just think in general for me I think the the the only real currency are in see. You have in a job like mine I think is the trust. People have in you to to tell their stories to perhaps share their information. And I would say when I became a full-time NBA reporter a in and around that time of two thousand seven two thousand and a a no one gave me more credibility in the league that I think Kobe did because we you know we built a professional relationship and he. He was willing to tell me his stories he was willing to talk to me and I really felt that that resonated for me for years and even even now he gave me credibility when. I'm not sure how much I had around In a Lotta ways he helped helped me build a career as an NBA. A writer. And I thought more about that here in the last couple of days. I think there's certainly a lot of other people who've who've impacted my career in that way but but none more than Kobe Bryant wanted. That's beautiful piece. I wo- JENN. Thank you very much. And obviously we'll continue to lean on you for the latest on all of these developments across the League in the meantime of course it is super bowl week in the NFL is standing in solidarity with their NBA counterparts. They honored Kobe. Bryant with a moment of silence prior to the start of Super Bowl fifty four is opening night at Marlins Park last night and Travis Kelsey of Kansas City was one of the many. NFL players that took time to remember Kobe Bryant. It's hard to put into words. Exactly actly how everyone feels. It felt like was mortar. Really and it feels unreal. That he's gone. I was in the dumps and then I just thought about what what he would tell me. You know what I mean. We'll tell me. Stop being a baby and man up and play it and do it in his honor and win this game forum. I'M GONNA go out there and try to play some dominating fall just like he won. Komo Mama mentality still live on other than my parents like us reason I played sports. Just his mindset is known the mob mentality and I wore the number twenty. Four in high school My freshman sophomore year because of him. I work Kobe Bryant basketball shoes because Kobe Bryant now I still watch videos on youtube day before games and just listen to them talk and and how he puts everything in perspective of being great on and off the field with his kids and his and his business ventures and then obviously his play and I mean it's a it's a tragedy prayers his family. He made a huge impact on my life for sure very few and far between are the athletes who have the kind of extraordinarily broad impact on the sports world world and beyond the Kobe. Bryant did and with that thought in mind we bring in our football crew this morning. Bobby Carpenter and Bart Scott and Bart. I'll start with you telling us this morning that that they were players and one in particular that you played with WHO. You always reminded you of Kobe Bryant. Well I mean I play with a lot of great players hall of Famers Rather Jonathan Ogden. Ed Re Derail Rivas eventually early. But that Ray Lewis mentality that leadership model when you talk about great players and guys who dare to be great but he was unapologetically you you know about his greatness in you can feel it every day and preparation the same thing that you see on Monday and Tuesday you see Sunday and that's when I think about Kobe Bryant. That's why I think about at the most because he forces you to raise your level to try and match them and it's hard as an athlete. We've all been good but those that are able to be great and able to lock in mentally mentally. It's hard to be able to to understand and admit to yourself that this guy just better than me and that you'll you just want to try and drift and and try and be as good as he is and that mob mentality is something that you know we all try and strive and put into our lives. Lobbying your career. Who did you play with reminded you of Coby so naturally looked at some of these great players? The guys that you've been around to excel. Who wanted to compete each and every day at everything into me you know? It's Tom Brady. I get New England and you all of a sudden you're experiencing a guy who is competing in July and competing in April and March like it's end of January where every single play matters. Everything you do is going to be examined in wanted to win every single situation it was treating it as such and come up to after the practice. Come up to you in the middle of the game or hey we need more of this. We need less of this. Yes we need to make sure that we're all on the same page pushing together and you can see those great players like that. They drive their teammates. They expect the most. I'll push that stuff out of them and you look at Kobe Bryant. When you see him he was one of the first guys to me? Being a contemporary of his playing basketball and other sports we got to watch him grow and you got to watch him go from the kitchen. The baggy suit getting drafted by the Hornets to becoming a global icon from a talent to a star and then ultimately like from a young man into a father. You're sitting there watching those things and watching that. Evolution is so impactful I think that's why his openness everybody felt like they knew so much more about an even people that he had never touched again. We will get to some football today. The Super Bowl this coming up on Sunday and Barton Bobby will break down some of the things about this matchup. That are intriguing. And we'RE GONNA the head down to Miami for the coverage of that but of course the coverage of Kobe and the crash continues. An investigators are still what we would describe as the beginning stages of their probe as they try how to figure out why exactly the helicopter carrying Kobe. Bryant and eight others did crash their focus right now is clearly on the fog and ABC News correspondent Tj. He Jay homes is with us again today from the crash site with the very latest good morning. TJ Man Machine Environment Greenie. Those are the three things. NTSB THE FBI says they're going to focus on this investigation and yes like you mentioned. You better believe whether it's going to be a big part of it so much. Talk about how foggy it was that morning. And the the investigators say they will answer the question of should. That pilot happened flying where he was at that time. The NTSB is on the ground this morning investigating the circumstances surrounding the helicopter crash that killed NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant his thirteen year old daughter. Zhanna and seven others saying weather is just one one of the many factors that may have contributed to this tragic accident and nine oh six. AM The helicopter left and Orange County airport and headed to a basketball game. In thousand OAKS WCHS at nine forty four witnesses report hearing a helicopter flying very low air. Traffic controllers informed the pilot. They can't detect him on radar to Echo Echo. Okay you're still low level for five following the time. Investigators say the helicopter did not have a black box and was not required to have have one but an IPAD was found among the wreckage which they believe was used for weather updates flight planning and tracking. We haven't obtained the IPAD yet. We know there was an IPAD PAT with four flight on it. There were other electronics on board That we're looking for in the records. One witness to Sunday's crash called nine one one after hearing a big thud tilling ABC News. The fog was thick as milk at the time. You can hear the helicopter anything. I can't see anything if I couldn't see it. And I'm looking directly. Got It. He he's not gonna be able to see anything on the ground the La County Coroner Special Operations Response Team resumed their work Monday on the calabashes mountainside to to recover the victims. Brian spoke about flying on helicopters as his preferred mode of transportation in a December twenty eighteen interview with Barstool sports saying it allowed him to spend more time with his daughters traffic. Start getting really really bad right now. Sitting in traffic I wanted missing like a school play because I was sitting in traffic in this distinguished. Came out only only the had to figure out a way rockets. Still Train and focus on the craft but still not compromise family ton. Kobe Bryant and his daughters Yanna died alongside aside basketball coach and mother of three Christina. mouser John and Kerrie ULTA belly were also on the flight with their daughter. Eliza Sarah Chester and her daughter Peyton were also on board and the pilot Eras Abyan who according to group three aviation was flying the aircraft investigators called this a quote devastating being accident scene with a debris field to football fields along with some debris down the hill. Some of it over the hill and Greenie. They are asking for the public's help. If you have pictures of the weather here that morning they would like those pictures send them to the. NTSB can help them pieces together but green. They say they are confident. They will find the cause of this accident. It's TJ home for the very latest. Thank you so much very much appreciate this today and we will take a short break is. We're just getting started this morning on get we will have much more on the life and the legacy of the Great Kobe. Kobe Bryant as we continue you're watching up on ESPN You ever been locked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. 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I think that's a very powerful message to have in something that hopefully the players are now players that will come later Home choose to embody as well moments. That will live forever. Kobe Bryant and winning his his first championship in two thousand against the Pacers he at twenty six and ten in the decisive game. Six fast forward January two thousand six Kobe Bryant a career your high eighty one points against the raptors second most points scored by any player in any game in NBA history. Two thousand nine season after he was the MVP he wins the first of two titles without Shaquille O'Neal it was mvp of the finals that year and the following cemented himself as one of the all time greats and then of course legendarily sixty points in his final game in the last interview. I ever did with him just last year. I asked him how he thought he stacked up against the other. All Time Greats in the sports history this was. His answer is hard for people to believe. But I really don't care you know like I've moved on. You have a career. You do the best you can do. Twenty years I was very fortunate to play. And then you shelf. You're done move onto the next thing so now. I'm focused on these next twenty years and so those debates are entertaining. I'm sure so fun for people to engage on those engaging engage in those but for me personally. It doesn't matter when everyone gets into the is Lebron better than Kobe. Whatever it is and you hear it you cannot hear Oh shit like no reaction? Sure no I think the best way to explain. It is a typically. Do not engage in things that I cannot definitively win. I've asked those kinds of questions. I'm very fortunate to have been able to ask those kinds of questions to most of the greatest players of the last few generations and almost all of them try and tell you they really don't care where people stack them up against others. He's the only one who ever said that I believed it. Because he didn't want to talk about about his career he really was already on talking about other things and then you watch his actions. What were his actions? His actions were all about expanding the next generation ration- basketball players female male being there for his daughter and helping to coach her. He even openly said it. She brought me back into the game. I wasn't even watching basketball but because she had a love for it bonded us. Now if you don't have a if she's the one bring you back. That means that you were away and that was a very obvious is in real statement. And that's why I think everyone connected with. GD also so much one of the things that I want to do here the last two days and it's hard to do in the wake of what's happened is true celebrate celebrate how genuinely great a player he was. He may not have wanted to talk about it. But that doesn't mean that we can't and legs we were talking during the break and you. You made a comment. I thought was really interesting. Thing about there were a great athletes and their great fundamentally sound players and then there was Kobe Bryant and as you know when you played against these guys and rich this you could deal with ridiculous athlete and find a way to bait that person into maybe doing something. They weren't comfortable doing right and there were there were shortcuts. You could take to deal with that and they'll get me wrong. That was as a challenge in and of itself. And then you had the super fundamentally sound guy. But he wasn't gonNA blow by you. Were jump over you. Those guys represented a different kind of challenge to but again wasn't the type of thing where you got. Your heart rate was going up because of that then you have a guy like Kobe Bryant. who had to ridiculous athleticism freak athleticism combined with what I think might be the greatest footwork in the history of the game when you look at his ability to turn either shoulder to pivot off either foot to go either direction he had no weakness whatsoever whatsoever as a player when you combine the two things at one now? What you have is a nightmare on your hands? And that's what coby was to defend and the other thing Richard was an. Ah You know played ten years in the League and Michael Jordan won six titles during that time so I got to play against him to barely got Kobe at the very beginning of his career. But the one thing they did have in common they would only we to guys. I ever played against that. Never took a second off where they weren't thinking about going when they got so you can never relax. You couldn't turn your head for split-second I can make the slightest mistake. They were back cutting you. Every time they caught it. Their initial reaction was deterrent square. And try to go on you. I play a lot of hall of famers of some of those guys would take plays off or they spotted it up and watch somebody else play. You could take a breath not the case with the look. I prayed against Prime Kobe in MJ on his comeback. And when I tell you he was the first portion in Kobe. Bryant was the first person that when I play with their running fist up five down watch the back cut like he was like a free safety in their defense. So to your point when you combine signed the physical ability where he's one of the top three athletes when you combine the footwork and the technique and how hard he worked there and then you combine the mental ability to focus focus in and help his teammates. You were sitting out there and you are going against a one man machine and everything was built around him. What were your conversations like with your teammates before you? I've had to face cove like. How are you going to stop him? Well it was. Did you get some rest because you knew that it was going to be on both sides now. I was hope fortunate to play with Vince Carter for multiple years years and he always wanted that challenge. Kobe always it didn't matter if it was T- Mac and didn't matter who it was. He took that challenge. So against Vince. Carter he would go and just is trying. And so I had the fortune of having maybe the third best defender on me and if I ever got going all of a sudden switch in then. Kobe was going to be guarding me. And you looked at like okay. This is a sign of respect. This a sign of respect. He was like this moment with vans. I started on him. You're playing well so he was just constantly moving back and forth to whoever it was he felt. It was time to slow down or stop. We will have much more on Kobe as the day continues and of course the NBA season continues in this week our NBA Wednesday doubleheader. We'll we'll start in Brooklyn Kyrie in the natural host Andre Drummond and the Pistons at seven thirty Eastern. Then we'll go to the Rose City James Harden Russell Westbrook and the rockets taking on the Red Hot Dame Willard and the trailblazers coverage begins with Stephen as pre-game sportscenter seven eastern on ESPN and the ESPN APP. It has been a magical postseason postseason run for Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs as we get to super bowl here. He's thrown for eight touchdowns and no interceptions in to come from behind. Victories this postseason Travis. Atas Kelsey is tight. End Confident in his quarterback petting into the super bowl back on this stage. Now come on showtime time homes. Baby you know he's ready for. He's nonstop evolving his game. Taking it to the next level touchdowns or not. He helped us win a football game every single time. He touched the ball. I'm taking Pat Mahoney against against any quarterback in the national football league. Look obviously you're going to be confident in Patrick Mahomes. If he's record. Patrick Mahomes is confident in itself. There have been in some really talented quarterbacks who have not performed that well in super bowls is Patrick. Mahomes a guy that you would be concerned about that. The stage somehow being too big for embarked. I mean we just don't know right. We've seen great quarterback struggle in his game. This game is different than any other game that you play you. We're creatures have as athletes and we're used to doing things and going into schedule. You know everything about this game is completely different. You look at a lot of quarterbacks that come in and we think it's a foregone conclusion that mahomes gonNA come in and dominate. The problem is that's why we play the game. And you you need the San Francisco Forty niners to cooperate and you'll they are playing with house money. They're not supposed to win this game so they get to come in with a a a sense of relief. MAHOMES is not only plan for himself. But he's planning for Andy Reid legacy and when you put all that on top of you and you think about it in a moment if you come on and things it doesn't work out and you struggle. What do so interesting way to look at it but the video that you just saw there were both whole bunch of guys who are in? The Hall of Fame Franson Jim Kelly and Peyton manning all all of whom had some miserable days on super bowl Sunday as did of course Cam Newton against the threat of commonality amongst those was the great defense. Say we're facing so this San Francisco Defense Defense. I think we all think Patrick mahomes great player. He's not going to wilt he's not going to wilt but is the San Francisco defense enough to cause all kinds of problems. Their defense that causes problems for a lot of guys. They're gonNA cause issues but I don't think it's due to patent homes inexperienced Look at him one of the things that he's best that literally best asked in the. NFL is attacking zone defenses. He's absolutely phenomenal because of his accuracy because of his arm strength and because of his awareness and his ability to understand understand identified the zone. Get the ball out in an accurate and timely fashion and then also his ability to write for it in their beloved the they love the cover three defense and you see see drew brees taking advantage of it against San Francisco or against New San Francisco rather and then you see mahomes. He's going to be able to do a lot of those same methinks. The things he's a drew brees with the accuracy but he has a stronger at this point. He's still more athletic to get the ball out. But he's throwing his interceptions against the zone. Only one against man man to man. And that's what that's the problem because all it takes one tip ball. All it takes is one pick six and it changes total dynamic because it's so much pressure put on him because this is for all the marbles so if things don't go the way they do expect them to go on this San Francisco running game is able to step it up and to try and take possessions away. Then how does mahomed react. We don't know how mahomes gonNA react his teammates. All I know is look at this guy on third and fifteen down that no quarterback wants to be an ever that nobody wants to be in a situation where they can do whatever they you want rush rush seven dropped seven. Drop eight whatever it is. He excels in that situation. Better than anybody so I think the pressure gets him less than any other quarterback that we've seen after continues. Of course we will. We will continue getting you ready for the super bowl which is coming up this Sunday. We'll head down to Miami for some of that coverage tomorrow and the rest of the week in the meantime as as we continue this morning we will of course have much more on the life and the legacy of Kobe Bryant. Including if you do not see it yesterday Tracy McGrady's very emotional tribute to Kobe. Engine on the jump. We'll show you that after this. You're watching get up on. ESPN interesting creature. Inhabits the flat arid plains of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead. It's most agreeable and will not allow them to anything despite having having no brain function but when the bottle had. Here's how Geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone deal not not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer bobblehead easy you can get whiplash tributes to Kobe. Bryant extended to the game last night between UCONN and Team USA an exhibition where the Connecticut team set aside a seat for g g featured a photo of the pair on the scoreboard and observed a moment of silence. Meanwhile Tracy McGrady was very emotional yesterday when remembering her in particular. I'll sit there and watch and before the gate I'll go up and I'll give Zhijie hug and tell her to go out there and kill it. She's like don't worry about that. I'm MM COMERICA got this. And she was special she was built like Colby mannerisms everything I mean just to watch her play. It was like watching a young colby the mood she had a fadeaway convert to you so watching this girl and it it just looks like our dad out there and she's going to be special. It's tough to watch and we all all of us who are old enough to remember the legendary battles if you will between McGrady Kobe they were contemporaries. Areso came directly out of high school one year apart and obviously had that relationship that continued and now you made the point earlier this morning that it was through his daughter Gina that he really did come back to the game. I Richard. You said he had left. He retired he had sort of stepped away and he had so many other interests that it looked like he was moving to a totally different phase of his life and it was that relationship relationship that seems to have brought him back to basketball. I think when you're driven to that level of success a lot of times it more than even rejoicing in the success and the winning and everything else. You're you're driven even by a fear of failing and I think koby experienced and so as a result when you can finally relax take breath from that when you give everything to the game. You're you're focused. Turns to this right here and I I think about the you know the moments that I was able to before. It's enough to coach my kids and Man that countless tournaments in a game I coach both my children and the moments like this just being in a gym with Rebounding for them having fun with them at driving tournaments talking in the car getting ready for the games like all of those things like. That's what I look so forward to as a dad. Kobe obviously was getting into that phase. And he's right about sure he probably had no intention of going down that road with John and you have to wait to see is. Are My children going to take a loving of this game. The way that I did and once she did the bad obviously was clearly there and it was starting to get his juices flowing again for that. And what could she become. So I feel so so so sad that he won't mm could do experience that and to your point you look at how she started devolve as a player and then how he started to support her hero now he might have supported women's basketball. Aw Long before his daughter was it was a focal point for him in that space but she was a fan of so many people so all of a sudden send you would see him at Uconn basketball games you would see him going and watching. You Know Oregon play and he was constantly talking about women's basketball constantly talking about the US women's national national soccer team. He just started to support even more who his daughters were. And that's what made her and him so bonded and that's why the entire world got to watch him be a father to another future sport to another athlete and it was just the entire basketball community the tire female and male all sports world. We're all watching him. Grow up like we talked about was a reality show. He started at seventeen and we watched him do every aspect of his career including being a father her favorite for it NBA Player was trae. Young and just even seeing the impact that her loving trae has had on him and even before for all of this tragedy happened. I think it's incredible legs to just look at how that has become a part of this to all the people that not only her father affected acted but the G. G. has affected in her legacy. Yeah it's amazing you think about first of all how special you have to be as a young person to even embrace the sport when your parent is on that level thing about the pressure that comes with that and some of the things that you could run from and be afraid of because you're afraid of not living up to certain things so the thing that she had that quality at such a young age she wasn't going to run from it she was going to embrace it and she wanted to chase that and see how far I can go with this. I think that's something that athletes connect to when you see something special young person that has not only the talent. But they've got that equality that they're not not going to run from the light they're going to run to it and that is I think why Golly trae young and other athletes can really identify with her. And you see the reaction of Tracy McGrady and look at how he passed. It was going to her basketball game with a bunch of her teammates and friends and it was it. It's something that when you get to watch all of this go on and then you see how he passed it is. It's been something that's touched. Everyone in and me he personally. He has shown how to evolve even at in that transition in basketball. Right so after you're done retiring and you see him spending more time with his family. You See him coaching all of a sudden every guy. That's about to retire or hey. You've mirrored Kobe your whole life. And you see what he's doing now he is set an example for a father's everywhere and that's something that I commend him. And you know I it's going to be you know dearly missed in our next hour we have a lot more coverage of this including we're going to go live to Los Los Angeles off the top of the hour to look into what some of the Lakers plans are moving forward and there's much more to be said about this but of course Sunday is the super bowl and we will continue slowly but surely Shirley working our way towards that greeny the forty niners in the super bowl. They've scored a total of sixty four points. In their two victories. This post-season the running game has led the way as Jimmy Garoppolo. Their quarterback is only throwing the ball total of twenty seven times in the two wins Garoppolo. Cool with roller whatever it takes to win. We've won most of those games so as long as we're winning We passed the ball zero times rush for four hundred yards. And I'll be happy as a quarterback you WANNA throw it obviously but it's it's tough when you're running the ball for eight yards Kerry and just moving the sticks play after play. It's like do you really want to pass it and so you know I'm in that mindset whatever it takes to win and I felt like that my whole life and this is a team of guys like that like we do. It makes you tough to beat Jimmy. One Hell of quarterback he can throw them at the best of all. We don't have any any worries about G. Men are passing game. He's GonNa throw when we need to. We need to run the ball forty five times like I said. Throw the ball eight times. We will renew throw the ball. Forty Times run the ball ten times we will. So let's start with this. There's no team in the NFL that wouldn't sign up right now for only throwing eight passes. I beam running it as effectively as they did a week ago. Sunday and winning but there is I think think out there is skepticism. And I can see it on your face as we're listening to those conversations Bart about if the game winds up on the shoulders of San Francisco's quarterback whether that is a recipe. Happy that they can use to succeed. I mean I don't want to disrespect the two time superbowl champion which which is go for third super bowl but it's difficult right because we haven't seen. I'm not saying that he can't do it. We were talking about before we said. You know the first Super Bowl by Russell Wilson. He didn't do a lot. You think about Ben Rothlisberger. He didn't to allow his in his first super bowl. I'm not saying he can't do it but I'm saying I don't know about San Francisco. Wants to find out in the super bowl if he's capable of doing it if this run game stop down the field. Because he's not a drop back you'll set up you know Scam to fill the sages a rotating and started to pick you apart. He's a guy that ah you know understands. We're the holes in his own are off play action and being able to catch us open and his own. It's actually remarkable as we look at some of the moments that have not been spectacular for him in this post season again. His team has been comfortably ahead for the most part through these playoffs. So he hasn't had to do a lot but body at a time in which we analyze analyze practically every move every quarterback in the league makes down to the most microscopic detail. And here's a guy who's been around a while. He has the huge contract his team the Super Bowl and yet I feel like we know less about Jimmy Garoppolo a quarterback than we do practically any who was ever come into this game or not sign. No handsome is even with a little glistening there on the Super Bowl media day which is fantastic. Like he's only started for one season you know. We played five games against the big deal. It's hurt last year. They get Nick Bosa so maybe maybe into being the best for him when you look at what he's done this year they haven't asked him to do a ton but they did open. The Vikings game drove the ball down. The field. Looked good doing that. In one of the things that people people don't know he's pretty good at his second level throws between fifteen and twenty five yards one of the best in the NFL on the second level throats. One foot in the ground gets back find so he needs to get the ball to push it out of there so when he's able to do that he sees a clear vision Greenie. They're able to have success and so I look at training. Nobody's able the do that a little bit early on in the game to loosen up. I think that chiefs defense in allow him to throw allow the running game to get going so they don't get caught in a situation where they know exactly. What what they're gonNA do all right? You're shaking your head like develop trust Jimmy G.. I'm looking at my house man. 'cause I see barbecue chicken because you look at all those throws they're in between into numbers that tells me those. Are Our quarterback friendly throws. Can't he be accurate on the outside of the numbers and if I'm if I'm Kansas City I'm packing the middle of the field. I'm saying we'RE GONNA lose. WHO's GONNA be cuts? Jimmy Johns accurate. He's precise he's on his game. Looks that he's actually just as his inside so a lot of ducks sucks right. They're a Lotta defenders. Let him off the hook. We'll see what happens there more on the super bowl of course but coming up on get up much more on the life and legacy of Kobe Bryant as we continue to remember Tan Jonah and the victims of the helicopter crash GEICO presents doubly another voicemail from your roommate. I got some bad news. Someone broke into our apartment and they took your TV and your computer. But what's most upsetting. Is they took my water bottle. There it is. It's really worried trade for a second. 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Death of Kobe Bryant

The Current

09:01 min | 8 months ago

Death of Kobe Bryant

"In the fall of nineteen ninety eight an elderly woman known as the Cat Lady went missing. She had a very Very Distinctive Silhouette and very recognizable. When so you're walking into town a handkerchief on her hair long overcoat like somebody that lived on the street? All police could find were thirty. Thirty cats shot dead. I always knew something happened to her disadvantage like that uncover the cat lady case from CBC ABC podcasts. This is a CBC podcast Galloway. This is podcast from the January. Twenty seventh edition of the current a Toronto Raptors been attributed up. There's a twenty four second shot clock and of course Kobe Bryant wore number twenty four and I wonder if that is what is happening in in honor of him. Twenty four second shot clock expired remarkable scene yesterday at the beginning of Toronto Raptors game the Raptors in the San Antonio Spurs pay tribute to NBA Great. Kobe Bryant Bryant running down the twenty four second shot clock in honor of the number that he wore twenty four. Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. In California yesterday eight other people including including his daughter were also killed Gomez. Kelly has written about Kobe Bryant extensively over the years and he's with me in studio now. Good morning morning. How would you describe Kobe? Bryant has a basketball go. I would say a brilliant an incredibly brilliant but complicated figure transformative I think the modern NBA. And I'm not talking about the tactics of the way they play but the way the NBA carries itself. It's dominance throughout the world is perhaps the world's most fascinating league a lot of that is down to him. Why what what did he do? There are other superstar superstar. Certainly what did he do. That was transforming. I would suggest that the thing that Ryan did that. You know it's hard not to call them Koby The thing that Kobe did that other other players couldn't do is that he brought this mercurial persona this need to attract attention on and off the court and a sort of arrogance the translated with fans in a way that mere play couldn't I think the way I put it. Today's he was social media before there was social media. He was a person that used the price us who berated his teammates who castigated his opponents who was against everyone tilted every windmill and people found that fascinating and the important important thing of course is that he could back it up. He was probably the most brilliant player of his generation fascinating. backstory grew up in a basketball family and grew up in Europe before he moved back to North America. who was Kobe? Bryant and in that context in that context Kobe Bryant was a a child that was bred for greatness whose parents had decided in his youth he would be special in some way. That wasn't necessarily basketball. But it turned out that weighs father play professionally overseas. He was home schooled and so when he arrived. Eddie arrived with this incredible cockiness and self assuredness that people really hadn't seen before he was able to display in a bunch of different languages. -solutely was multi-lingual. You know it was pointed out that he could have got a scholarship the US based on his academics not as athletics so he was someone someone who was bred for greatness and carried that through like never seemed to lose that self belief even when we know forget it wobbled at the beginning wasn't quite the player. He was initially advertised as he had to grow into that role and came in straight from high. I school that's exactly right. He was one of the last to do it. His career there are people in Canada who will remember higher low point in which he scored eighty one points against the Toronto Raptors. What did that tell you what he was capable of that he could? It was two things that happen there I to score eighty. One Point is insane in that game he took forty six shots. The Raptors total so about ten players to seventy six so we. He didn't lack for self belief. That was the thing is that most players will never score that automatics. Most players will not take that many shots and they will try passing off at some point but he just felt he was in a rhythm and kept going later. He called that he didn't talk about The physical physical need of doing it. He's talked at his feet of the imagination. That only he could imagine so big to score eighty one point in the imagination of basketball fans. And you saw this yesterday not just social media but if you talk to basketball fans of a generation of his generation he was the greatest player he mean to Tabasco ball players and fans of the current generation. Because there's Michael Jordan and there's Larry Bird and there's there's a long list of of extraordinary players but in that generation. He seemed special. Well the thing is I think McKee Kobe. Bryant had a Shakespearean Art to his careers is three. Kobe's there's the initial Kobe that wins the first championships and becomes you. Know the the the rising star in the NBA NBA. The new Michael Jordan. Probably the second best shooting garden history after Jordan. Then there is the sex assault accusation at which point his reputation is brought low understandably. Then there is kind of a dark koby period after that when he becomes quite embittered and retreats into himself and then there's that necessarily third arc mark when he becomes the elder statesman that went on for quite a while. That's the player I think. Players of this generation remember when he became a kinder gentler. Koby he he was still. You still could kick against the pricks many hot too. But he was the sort of person that took people under his wing and was more open to new players as you mentioned at the height of his success success. He's accused of sexual assault. He's arrested never tried Settled a civil suit related to this out of court. The story was that this would have destroyed his His career now if this had happened now in the era of me to in an era of heightened awareness around sexual assault That he would have never come back he did come back. And how do you rebuild his his career and his image. After the I think the thing that athletes the advantage. If that's the word we WANNA use that. Athletes athletes have in. This is that you know whereas other careers when something like this happen necessarily stop athlete. There's a huge investment in them. Their career continues because they're under contract in most cases. And so you have your way to play your way out of it fairly or unfairly and people have very strong opinions on that but because he continued to be great and because he continued to win and championships later on people simply forgave is the right word they simply move past it. How does that count the legacy that you see him leaving? It certainly complicates his legacy. I think that's where people to say to themselves At this comes down to I would think an art versus the artist question. I think thank you can appreciate the art without necessarily endorsing every single thing about the artist. There is a view that is shared that The statistics don't define his legacy gacy in some ways that he had all the numbers. But that isn't the full picture. No I think that's absolutely true because it is what we think people will remember about Kobe. Bryant a generation ration- from now is not that he was the fourth leading score of all time or the five championships are the remarkable eighteenth street. All Star Games What it is? The Person Colby. Oh be encouraged players in the NBA. I think writ large to be more themselves to be more honest In the media. But what they thought was going on on to be crueler which people are always attracted to. I mean nobody. Nobody was crueler to his teammates. Think coby Bryan people loved it and also also to see themselves as something more than basketball in sports standards. He was a renaissance man. This guy spoke Italian. He played the piano. Appreciate it art. He was probably the first north. American can athlete that gave people permission to like soccer because he was such a big fan of it. So this is someone that was a lot more than what he did on the court beyond. The numbers is heartbreaking video. That's been circulating regulating Of Kobe Bryant on Jimmy Kimmel show speaking about his daughter who was also killed in the helicopter crash yesterday talking about how she was a basketball player and and when people came up on the street and talk to him he looked at her in some ways as furthering his legacy What does that tell you about who he was as a person people say that that not just? There's a father better. Somebody who became an advocate for women in sport. Yeah in a massive AD. Could he'd recently said that he thought women should be playing in the NBA. Not at some future point but right now this is someone who saw himself. He was raised as a legacy. That was the entire point of his of his child obviously wanted to carry that on. He didn't see his greatness. I I think is imbued entirely in himself. which a lot of a lot of great people do he saw? That is a generational patrimony that he was going to pass on. Call Paul Callan. It's good to have you here. Thank you good to be. Call Kelly as a columnist with the Globe and Mail for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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Kobe Bryant 1978-2020

Le Batard and Friends - South Beach Sessions

42:38 min | 8 months ago

Kobe Bryant 1978-2020

"Hello it's Dan lebatardshow GonNa do something a little different off of the news this week. With South Beach sessions sessions over the weekend. I spent a lot of time in phone conversations with my friends and with people I care about after Kobe. Bryant's death just reaching out because because there was something about everything that happened there that made me want to tell the people that I care about that I love them and Ed's part of Lebatardshow friends is and the things that we do around here. We just like talking to our friends and so I want to have the conversation with three folks from ESPN who know this. Kobe Bryant story not unlike conversation. I might have with them over the phone When Kobe Bryant passed so let's begin among the three people with Rachel Chill Nichols? I've known her for a long time. We've all grown up. The three of us have grown up with Kobe. Bryant in our careers and Rachel Nichols having come from in south Florida can tell you a little bit about how complicated this man was but how interested he was an curious he was in learning and getting better from a real human human emotional connection. So let's start with Rachel Nichols Rachel this outpouring that we're seeing all over America. I'm I'm taken aback by it when my colleagues are sobbing or broken on air where I can see that. No one is faking insincere sadness. There's just a morning throughout basketball as if a piece of basketball has died. I think it feels that way. I keep saying you can't tell the story the NBA without Kobe Bryant Orient Their shelby. Ten people on that list. I could say that about but it goes further than that right. You can't tell the story of Los Angeles an entire city without Kobe Bryant He. He wore that across his chest and was the most visible person who represented Los Angeles for more than two decades. He a landmark like the Hollywood sign here and and this is a city that has obviously gone through some things right and has had different identities and and he was the face that let people feel good about themselves else here Phil together and unified in a way. That has sometimes been a real problem in the city. He meant so much to so many people but it goes beyond US good ball or even beyond one of the largest cities in the country. If you think about all the people who had Kobe Bryant come into their lives in one way or another other even if it was just on the television. How many people can't say yeah? Kobe Bryant was on when this was happening. He is a fixture of American life. She's part of everyone's life even people who weren't sports fans and I think they have this be so sudden and just so implausible in the moment moment as the news went around yesterday morning. That's part of why you're seeing all. This is that that he was an essential thread in the fabric whether you're just talking about MBA with. You're just talking talking about California or you're just talking pain. American in the last two or three decades and left has gone. Rachel helped me navigate a bit of a minefield here. Because you're speaking of of him in Saint Louis terms. Many people are listening to this or watching our televisions and there's a mythology ising about him. That is really defying buying him today. And there's also a sexual assault settlement that is part of his story and had him at the center of perhaps losing his freedom. I'm curious how we juxtaposed. How are we supposed to reconcile those two things? I think it's two parts. One thing is to realize that I'm not sure that everyone's talking about him instinctively terms. There's a big difference between saying. Oh my God. He was just such a big part of everything and such a presence and he was a perfectionist misery with sunny in this way or or anything like that but that doesn't mean that he was the same He had parts in his life. That were very troubling. And I don't like to say mistake because I don't think something like sexual assault don't falls into that category but just because somebody wasn't a saint because they weren't perfect doesn't mean that their loss isn't something that leaves gaping hole so I think that's kind of the first part of that and then the second part of it is the actual assault itself. None of us know what happened in that room. We I know that the two people affected had their lives changed We know they both had different versions. We know that there is no criminal conviction but there wasn't a civil court settlement and that also a public apology from Kobe. Bryant and I know that in the years after that one of the things that was very important to him was being different toward women. I not sitting here to tell you that that makes up for anything that happened in that room that night. But I can't tell you it was important to him and you could see it in in his private interactions but you could also see an his public interactions he became one of the most vocal advocates for the WNBA. Not just as a sport but in the treatment of women as as equals who deserve to play the game the same way anyone else that obviously the way that he put his daughters front and center not as being my daughter's but being their own people Who are going to have these individual lives and it's part of what makes of course talking about his daughter? John is so tragic We saw Kobe do that with different parts of mistakes that he made throughout his life because he wasn't a saint and again I'm I'm using stakes in different ways now for different things he got trouble with the NBA for a homophobic slur. uh-huh and really worked after that to approach his attitude Both in word and indeed differently toward people who may be affected by when he said things like that he made some comments about Trayvon Martin. jemele Hill wrote beautifully about this Really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and he got more educated on that and then in subsequent ears spoke out very eloquently on matters of police brutality and the way that Young black males are treated in this country so I just don't think it's the same thing to say. That people are are reeling over the loss of Kobe and talking about his outsized impact on the game in American Life and saying he was he he was definitely not a saint I don't think any of US far. And what I do ask is not that they can never be redeemed but that they try to be redeemed and I saw Kobe's trying to be redeemed and a lot of different ways for different parts of his life. That he would go back and do differently if he could. We can't go back in time but we can try to do better and I saw him several times trying to better in a lot of ways what we saw him grow up right like we can. We don't have to eulogize him in terms that are two sparkling cling but we got to see him grow up into a man who did some learning the picture at the end. Rachel is of him being committed family man and and that had to be a hell hole for them to navigate in their relationship. His family life seeming to fall apart with that sexual assault settlement. Vanessa's famously sleep through out of the House through his clothes on the street. But you know people as you said people work through things You're married now Dan. I'm sure you know. Every marriage ages different and has different challenges and part of the beauty of marriage is working through the hard stuff not just the guy loves it lovely stuff and you know they were married for two decades they were able able to do it and had four children and I just kind of the pain. If you're Vanessa Bryant Wareham this morning and realizing everything that happened yesterday is real. I can't I can't fathom it. I just can't Rachel as the first thing I thought of. It was the very first thing that I thought of after the shock subsided. Like Oh my God that poor woman right I mean I just I will say you said. Oh my colleagues on the air crying. I was reduced to tears several times while having to talk about on television yesterday. And it was Jonah. The did it for me I Will Miss Kobe terribly. I have known Kobe half my life. I met him twenty three years ago when I was a young reporter. He was rookie told the story. A bunch over the years because it meant so much to me. Then you knew me then. I was a young woman and time where young women were not super. Welcome still in a lot of locker rooms. I had a hard time. Sometimes I'm getting players even coaches to answer my questions and talk to me and I went to go do a story in Los Angeles on her work you name Koby Bryant and not only did he make time for me you know. We sat on a bench for forty five minutes and talked and I ended up telling him a little bit about what was going on with me and who I was and he told me about how on that makers teams. He was not welcome with open arms by the veterans and they are not thrilled with this kid from high school. Getting all this crazy attention member the brandy stuff all sorts of stuff and they felt like. Hey we're the lakers. Were the ones entitled to all of that and then we definitely some hazing. Making Fun of young was and and just sort of not him and things and we're talking about kind of how discouraging all of that felt sometimes to reach the thing. That was your goal and these people you admired so much. Not having them want you there and she he just sort of looked at me at the end of the interview and the you know what we're GONNA be alright. He said they had no idea what's coming. And I will always remember that and did use that over and over again through the years so I will miss Kobe so much. He also lived a very full life. He lived in people's lifetimes in forty one years and so while his is an extreme tragedy. The person who didn't get to live her life is Gina. The person that just breaks me every time I think about it. Is this thirteen year old girl. WHO found her voice in getting to play sports? She really loved all the the reasons that young girls should have equal opportunities to play sports and get their hands dirty to know what it's like to be on a team and win and move. She was just at the beginning of all of that and I've met her several times smart and funny and Sassy in could take the wind out of Kobe no problem that is the tragedy. I can't get I can't get passed. It and the other kid died on that plane and the mother and father and families every single one of those nine people they have so many people miss them. And it's it's something's going to take a long time not to feel really robbed out. You Love Basketball. Oh but it seems to me that this one reached you more as a parent. Yeah I mean you know. That's that's that's who Kobe was and his last couple of years and because I live in Los Angeles List I get to see and experience him as that I saw him a month and a half ago and he did this thing that parents do. Oh he grabbed me by the arm and maybe look at pictures in his phone of his baby. Because you know she was five and a half months older four-month-old we're oh my God. She's changed so much that she was born like all of the stuff. It's devastating because this is something that we all spend the we talk about talking about and we'll we'll have a lot Conversations about it and I'm sure at the All Star game and we'll talk about it a lot When the hall of fame ceremony comes install? It was supposed to be Kobe Bryant. Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett needed to create greatest hall of fame class in the history of basketball and instead you imagine what Kobe speech would have been like. We'll never hear the speech so we will talk about. And then we'll talk about him through the years but Vanessa Bryant and those other three girls. They're going to have to wake up every day and miss that and yeah. That's the hardest to think about a Rachel. I appreciate your time you you do it in a really heartfelt way way and your journalism is impeccable like you you really did Speak Well on the behalf of everybody involved with the NBA in your feelings feelings but beyond that like your personal connection to Kobe. Bryant really came through like it was. It was obvious that you guys developed a very strong fair journalistic relationship Asian ship and that you grew admire him and his curiosities and how we grew. Yeah I mean look. People need to have a front row seat to some of these athletes slides or Cobian. Dan There's so many people you can say that of You you watch you watch them change and again. No one's the saint He certainly not a saint but I watched him do things that were good and I watch things that were terrible and I watched him try to get better after that. And and that's the biggest thing I ever want. Someone and I saw can try and I saw it and do it. I appreciate your perspective. Always thank you our thanks to Rachel Nichols. I've been a little surprised at how moved people. Keep getting when they talk about this stuff. How much it hurts them in ways that they can't even talk their way through it? Even the most professional people are thanks to Rachel Nichols for continuing to go down a path half that no parent ever wants to thank of Let's bring in now. A menial Hassen. He's worked in Basketball Front Office of the sons and on the West Coast and he he really loves basketball. As you know a mean knows basketball I mean those basketball. He picks everything wrong. But I mean those basketball. So let's talk to amino acid asked in a little bit about Kobe. Connection to all things basketball I mean during the local hour is a good year as broke down crying talking about Kobe. Bryant your reaction as someone who loves basketball and sees him as a symbol like how. How deep does is this one cut? Because I've been a little surprised by the outpouring even understanding where it comes from. You Know I. It's tough because because Kobe and I roughly the same age we have four kids Three we graduated high school the same year so there are a a lot of parallels between him and I in terms of our experiences growing up. As fans of basketballs people consume soon basketball so it hit me pretty hard knowing that this is this is a appear in life obviously not appear in basketball ascot ball and knowing this is someone that I both washes a fan and then watched as a competitor you know gain planning against them and then watch does is Immediate Person Analyst The other part of it really hurts And then I'll tell you that yesterday when I got the news out with I'd already done three hours of radio. I was going home and I had to go back to the studio and we did three hours a live radio. All the news is coming out and it's trickling in. I kept it together and then one time I lost it on. Air was when I found out that his daughter was was an accident. And the other Curls who are teammates as well for whatever you WANNA say about Kobe Bryant in an es forty one is tragically young to pass away but on some level he got to live his dream. Dream was to be an NBA player to be a great NBA player. When he got to do that yes she has new dreams? And I'm going to go on to do other things. Another is not the least of which father and shepherding his children into their dreams. GD Didn't get a a chance to do that. And I look at my kids and You know as heartbroken I would be that they had to lose me or their mother one hundred times broken down and I can't imagine what she's going through right now. That is one of the things that I imagined is is uniting people across the country in a way that is pretty seismic Is How many parents can identify with the horror of of all of that. Because of your first thoughts end up going to Vanessa and what her day was like if indeed she got the news from TMZ as the L. A. County Sheriff says and then she learns that her father her husband and her child are gone. I got to imagine that what's happening here to a lot of people. Outside of sports is making the parenting connection. Yeah and then it'd be honest with you. When you have definitely shifted this thing into a different zone of Greece for most people especially those about did not know him personally away but I I gotta tell you passing would like doing? The first news came out that it was him added battery action that transcended Basketball Sports. I had a friend WHO's not asking us. NBA Fan who was at a Brunch at a restaurant in New York and she told me the moment. The Moose came across the entire restaurant on at the same time. You see people. Pick up their phones and gas and You know kind of being shock and you know. That's that's that's that's pretty tough when you jump off the sports page and and and you enter mainstream news. This is who he was he was iconic and I think for even people weren't sports fans they knew who he was. And why why do you think thank. Why do you think that is? Because he is another champion like he is across sports. We have five time champions. Why that with him? We talked about this before Dan About the cult of personality of the you know the kind of Cathedral of Cova me that he built where people exalted him As more as more than more than just the basketball player and certainly more than Whatever place he has in basketball history I I think it was an incredible marketing job. That in life serve them well and and in debt as made him Like I said an international symbol and icon And I think part the Dan is tragic way it went. You know he didn't Guy Sleep he didn't pass away. You know Do the illness. He died in a helicopter talker crash. You're my friend. You know one of my group chats. He's overshadowed the mode of transportation. You talk about helicopters from now until the end of time people are the first thing. Don't think about Kobe by. And and that's that's a pretty strong statement if you think about it. I'm wondering as I chronicle this. I'm wondering what has even felt close to this because this ends up feeling when you start walking around and see all all these people down here for the Super Bowl and you run into them. And they're sort of Ashen face their ashen-faced as if they lost themselves a loved one In a way that is is pretty overwhelming. It's hard. It's hard to ignore the way that that has hit people in the face. But as you look at the at the Lakers as historic franchise as enduring surviving Magic Johnson's AIDS crisis as him pushing out Shaquille O'Neal to make that his is town forever. His town in a way. The Lebron James can't even take over that town is wait for euro two what he meant specifically to Los Angeles because I know Miami's had similar feelings for for Dwayne Wade but they got to see him grow up. They've they actually got to see him. Go from a teenager like a lot out of us did from a teenager to allege I think. That's that's it on the light Dwayne Wade who showed up twenty two twenty three years old with a kid right. He's already kind of lived life on some level Unlike even Magic Johnson showed up at a twenty year old You know Kobe was a title l.. Plays in eighteen years old on a team full of Goldman and went from not playing at all to starting in an all star game before he was even studying for his zone team to obviously being one of the greatest players. Ever put on that uniform. And what you what you're looking at is a guy who became a man in every sense of the work got married to an La a girl at his kids where he's the family and put that entire career twenty win a years of which in La at some point he not from Italy. He's not from Philly he's from La. And I think that's a in different kinds of dynamic when you think about The you that that embracement of a city as or an area I guess because you you lived in Orange County In business this is my home. Going way doesn't have that His first wife wasn't up of Miami from Miami Miami embraces the wing way. But it's it's not the same because it didn't have that full incubation that you have and you think what about you or formative experiences what's made you into who you are. Adult things happen with teenagers. Sixteen and twenty one and three out of those five years he spent in Los Angeles so I think that's part of it and I think obviously you know incredibly successful and again a A personality kind of a personnel. That we'd like to admire right. In general we like to admire the ultimate competitor. Like my the no excuses that we like it my the I hold my teammates to a higher standard even when my teammates is one of the greatest centers of all time. I'm still going to hold him. The highest and these are the traits that we attribute with leadership leadership and with With success in regardless of feel that we're talking about and in a town that cherishes success probably more than any in this country You know people resonate and react to that and You know I can tell you that area right outside across from staples Abelson where they had the grammys. So people can get across the street to the all congregating what they call Microsoft Square with your little area between the ESPN building and And the Microsoft here it was nothing but people not not Hollywood not people from from a Beverly Hills but the the actual people in Los Angeles can you explain to people in a way that they can understand encapsulated whether it's in an anecdote or some other way his will because it is really unusual in sports to get a guy and I think Michael Jordan is the only one we would put in this category to get a guy who was was simply known as being more willful than everyone else I believe it was sports. Season receiving the championship eastern a lot of people remember. He started the season with a broken right hand as shooting hand was in his gas. And you have to do everything left handed and so He beckoned over or to one of his team. Is John Tele. Stan was a stand out college for right. He was a four year player in him and coby would have been around the same age to play reports and then proceeds to play left handed. Not Hey you gotta make these left-handed shopped John. Kelly you shoot whatever shot you WANNA shoot and I'll shoot a too but I gotta to. I take my hat beat them. It's just it's an insane amount of competitive drive right. We think about someone who who should not be doing this activity activity let alone Doing it competitively and doing it to a point where he beat eight four year college standout and NBA pro- And then if you WANNA take it a step further other I think the most iconic moment is the day he ruptured his Achilles you know in the NBA. You GotTa if you don't keep the free throws you can't stay in the game it'd be leave did did injury and someone else for your out of the game. He's ruptured Achilles honestly not coming back into the game but he he literally picks Tilles up through his growth skin Habeb. Ot Line makes both free throws and then get taken out of the game and then the final part is afterwards the words in the locker room. believe it was Eric Drinkers of bleach. Report asked him is this last time. We've seen Kobe Bryant GonNa play and Kobe's you know took a the moment they said. Yeah Yeah I'll be back. This is an end to me but you could tell you the motion shaken and later on. He said that quote was kind of what made him really pushing. Lose Rehab to to try and come back. That second story was better than the first one. A horror story against four year college player. I really felt like you remembered at in the middle of that story that you had a better second store. I think that's what happens. All right. Thank you very much appreciate your perspective as always thanks to a mean El Hass in there for spending some time with us before we get to our final guest on this matter or he said I know who has gone from Miami to Los Angeles Ellis and is very much and was very much Kobe guy before we do that. Let's tell the people who's sponsoring this this week. Mike please it's brought to you by Ziprecruiter hirings challenging but if there is one place where you can go. We're hiring simple fast. And smart and growing businesses connect qualified candidates cafe all tourists. COO DYLAN MOSKOWITZ experienced. How challenging hiring can be after unsuccessfully searching for director of coffee for his organic coffee company but then he switched to Ziprecruiter and so an immediate difference and you can too by signing up for free at Ziprecruiter DOT com slash beach? Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. It finds them for you. 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So we've really enjoyed fooling around with those sideline interviews and horizontal has been someone you see all over the jump all over the NBA coverage that we have here on ESPN. And I wanted to talk to him a little bit about what. He's learned about Kobe since getting to Los Angeles and seeing how deeply rooted his roots were in Los Angeles. So let's talk to her or he sodano about that. He grew up with Dwayne way. During this era of basketball. In Miami with Dwayne Wade he had that connection and where basically Saddam's entire time in Miami all the winning the only winning was Dwayne Wade and so then he moves to Los Angeles and it felt like he was becoming a Kobe guy and it felt strange to us in Miami to watch this transformation. What what Voodoo Did He sprinkle in your face that made you be somehow both a wave guy and a copy got fatherhood man. That's what happened. I think that that was the difference. I got here right right after he retired so the only Kobe I got to see regularly outside of the few times covered him over. The years was the Fatherhood Kobe. And I think that that just struck a chord with me having been a new father and just kinda seeing how he was a different person right like it was just a different chapter in his life where he wasn't the maniacal intense guy he was on the floor with with his kids he was gentle. It was a different side Than I had ever seen in the opportunity to cover him and I. That's that's where it was and so the humanity of Kobe reached you or you just too syrupy softy because you have your own kids now and so you're the one who changed He might change some but you changed as well or right. Yeah no question. I think it's absolutely both of those things. I think that all of this stuff is buried in that. Like you know you always hear stories about like you know once you have kids it'll all be different and you know you think when you're single or you're just you know married with you don't have kids or whatever and then it happens and then yeah syrupy happens regularly like way more regularly than You think and that's why when when this thing happened yesterday All I could could think about was the kids and then when I found out that those that his daughter and the kids were on there. I'm then my mind goes to a place like Oh my God. What what? What were those last few moments like when when this thing when he knew for sure like this is not going to work out how do you how do you comfort? They're they're like what do you think what do you do. How do you react what do you say do you say anything like? That's all that's been swirling in my head for the last whatever it's been twenty four hours the final moments right because because it's hard to move around that one. What how? How does it feel to know? You're about to die with the most helpless feeling in the world that you can't save your child's life life right like I'm sure in his own mind like it's like you know take me not them right like if that's possible that's probably the only now you're talking about split seconds right right like that's what you're probably thinking right like do you do you do you hold her. Do you grab her like you. Hold her hand. You hug her do you tire. Everything's GonNa be okay and and and probably lie in that situation like man like just what you have to just like mentally have to deal with in a couple of split seconds had got to be just ridiculous. Can you explain to us the connection with Los Angeles because you've got Magic Johnson conquering HIV And at at one point Laker fans thinking he was going to die young Looking at Kobe Brian and saying he's the greatest Laker of all time. Lebron gets there. He can't be Kobe. It's always gonNA be Kobe City Koby pushed checkout and it remained his city. Can you explain the link between that city and that guy I can and here here. There's more layers to this right. So what I would say is first of all Much like you referenced. Earlier dwayne Wade and Miami. La Shaw. Kobe grow up like literally get here a wiry eighteen year old or whatever it was youngest player to ever play in the NBA at that particular moment and go from the kid who who airboats Shots against the Utah Jazz to winning championships. And have you know some of the highest of highs and and and by the way have some of the lowest of lows and stumble right personally and professionally and endure all of that and overcome. I'm all of that and then still find himself at the top of the mountain again after shack despite all the stuff that had happened professionally and personally and he is as interwoven into the fabric of this community. Unlike any other athlete and over four years that I've been able to absolutely ascertain like there's no doubt about that and there's a great story in the La Times today Gustavo Yano I know wrote a story about his impact on the Latino community. Who pronounced the hell out of that? My friend you you please do that again just for for the people listening Mustafa boost our Yano of the La Times. I felt like he did it better. The first time Okay Gustavo okay wrote a story story about how Kobe connected with the Latin community. Obviously you know Vanessa is the daughter of Mexican immigrants and I You know that so. The story talks about how she I took him when they were dating to. This restaurant is Mexican restaurant in her old neighborhood in Orange County and how he would go there and he that's where he really learned to speak Spanish and he would watch novellas with his wife and his mother-in-law and and you know Salvador he got in there and just like he was constantly working on that stuff because he was always challenging himself right so I think like things like that right. You hear those types of stories but I do think it's as crazy as this is gonna sound like the whole Mumbai mentality thing like that's the thing here like that is something that he has done. That has allowed people who grew up watching him or watch him. You know as adults They allow that to. It's something that they can apply to their own life and sensibilities like you know the way they look at it as they look at it this way they look at it as you know. I'm a sales sales guy. I gotta be focused. I gotta have the sounds crazy. What you're saying sounds crazy? You're saying you've adopted the the mom of the count. I am not not joking when I tell you that that the town is absolutely adopted. The Mama mentality. I know that you of all people would think that's why it's ridiculous. No No. It's not that it's wild. I know we need to be celebrating. braiding Kobe right now. But that's ridiculous that says that Los Angeles is ridiculous It says it fell in love with someone. I think. That's what it is. You know what I mean me like. He stole their hearts. And I think that just history right like all that stuff people they relate to him on that kind of human level level that they can apply that mentality those sensibilities to their everyday life. I I'm not joking when I say that. That is something regardless of who you talk to. He connects rich. Poor Black White Hispanic Asian. You name it. They love him for that and in the immigrant community specifically they love of him because of the work ethic. You know this right like your parents come here. Come to. The United States is Cuban. Exiles you know they work their ass off right. They don't know days. Offer that kind of stuff to give the best life they can't that's his work ethic it's why the immigrant community specifically is super attached to them like he actually referenced the Latino Community But the immigrant community specifically In his farewell speech I his last game like he talked about like the connection. He has with people. Here is unlike anything. I've seen anywhere else. I you know I know plenty of people in New York and Derek. JETER is their guy but it's not like that. It's not like this dwayne wait. It's not like this like this Dan. I'm telling you is different because it hits different layers and different levels as ridiculous as it may sound and that is absolutely the case. I'm not disputing the last part of what you said. Just the idea. Though that he would be a bit of God in terms of imparting upon on others the wisdom to have better success in their work lives That makes him a bit of a Tony Robbins on top of everything else. Sure I guess you could say that. But that's he you know he believes that you know what I mean. I I mean I I don't know if Tony Robbins believes that are not maybe does But Kobe sure is held it. I don't think there's any doubt. Do you have any stories that you've enjoyed above all others from fellow players in the last couple of in the last forty eight hours. Oh man let me think Just you know a lot of the stuff that I've gotten. Is this stuff about how he kind of. I don't WanNa does. He changed but how he had a different view and perspective near the end of his basketball career and it went from. I'm an assassin assassin. And I'm going to kill you and I'm GonNa take you out no matter what. And just the passion to win and the defiance to being more open to being collaborative motive and kind of training guys and working with young guys from a basketball perspective. That was what I got a lot of right like. I was at the game in New Orleans yesterday yesterday. And Lonzo Ball Brandon Ingram. Josh Hart who never played with him they missed him in some cases by a couple years but at least by one season in one one of their cases but he was around enough and invited them to work out and train like they felt like he was still a huge part of their life and they were broken at points before that game yesterday like Alvin Gentry David Griffin both talk to me about how they had to really console those guys a couple of weeks ago. We did a game with Jamal. Murray Mavericks Nuggets and we might them up and in that session. He was talking to us about working out with Kobe. Kobe really became a teacher later on. And as you talk to a lot of the guys jrue holiday was another guy. We talked to yesterday Jason Tatum Worked worked out with him. Another young guy like that is kind of the thing that you that I gathered the most that he went from being the assassin to being the guy to willing to impart art wisdom which wasn't always necessarily the case early on or had good talking to you. Thank you for making the time. Buddy appreciate The look from the other side because you really only use all its stuff in Miami and so when you're saying it's bigger than that bigger than anything you have seen People can understand a little better. What the connection is you? You gotta be anytime our thanks to Jorges sodano thanks to everybody. Who helped put this together? Meal Hassen and Rachel Nichols also Roy. Oy and Mike and so we should advertise Mr Crepe before we do that. What did you guys think of all that you guys worn out or you guys just just unbelievably tired and emotionally drained? Not The greatest start to the week obviously but I thought that You hit the right tone. Not that many people care what I think are are you just bringing us around. Did tell you how great you are. yes. I was hoping that. That's what you guys would do before revealing to the people why they should listen to Mr Credit. Yes how great was that. was that great. No that's not what I was asking you guys. I was just asking you why you look so broken like both of you look like. You're just crushed. Yeah this is Anytime something like this happens you view your own mortality mortality. Roy and I both have daughters and Obviously something about you changes when that happens and you just put yourself in those shoes and you can't help but Have your heartbroken a little bit a lot. A bit for the family and for a as I hate to even relive it. We've mentioned it a couple times about those final moments moments on that helicopter and what a squirming around when they thought what father must feel in in that moment. It's just it's it's a horrible. Thanks Claire for a very long time to the point where she was actually pushing me off her. Yeah I got to hold my daughter for seven seconds before I needed to do the next. ESPN I guess. We needed to talk to the next seven insiders. All right well tell the people what's going on with mystery crate during Super Bowl. We'll mystery crate right. Now is a mystery to to us at time of recording where prepping to go to media night as a unit. That's pretty cool. So if you want to hear montage of like seven second question and six second answers from the left guard of the San Francisco Forty this is GonNa be good though so you guys are going to be the wacky show that goes to media day. We're just GONNA ended up being shying get pushed out of the way by the people that are really wacky. I've got a great story for you regarding all of this super bowl stuff before we get to anymore mystery crate talk hankers area as the Brock Meyer character. At one of these news conferences went up to Golden Tate and and say Like clapped his hands and said Hey I know you. You're the winner. In that adult category of porn film Golden Holden Jane and Golden Tate just stared at him. And so you guys are GonNa do stuff like that heating turned the corner was like. was that the camera guy. From God's new Super Bowl Media Day no I mean I. I don't even know if we want to promote it because we I don't know if we're going to use this but we have a bunch of content opportunities that radio row so it's going to be a fun super bowl themed last week. We've bounced back last week. Was the beginning of what seemed team does Oh was a mental health breakdown this week. We're going to rise above and put out something. I don't even WANNA say proud of but we're GONNA put out something but it starts art super bowl week after the last mystery crate when you were short-circuiting and it seemed like your life was coming apart then. Kobe Bryant dies. And then you get swallowed for twenty see four hours by all things content relate. It doesn't stop and the Super Bowl is here in the party starts and you don't even know right now if you're Dj for Shaquille O'Neal's party anymore. Do Are you doing what I was actually doing it if we want to put yourself were you when you learn the news. I was preparing for Shaq's T- Fun House which I'm DJ. And like. I just ran downstairs in stunned. Silence I said. I just said like Kobe to my wife and then like after after. I digested all the news and stopped my rehearsal. I haven't even gone back and I was like. I wonder if this is even happening. I can't even imagine like someone like Shaq Shaq and Kobe. It's like Batman Robin. It's Word Association Association. What he must feel? I was taking my wife's car in to be serviced and the guy working on the car told me that Koga died. That's what happened and you told man and you told me right before I sent it up the chain Bristol to get that verve. That's Roy Really did. I was surprised. You gotta pay attention. Whenever Roy sent you a text I mean honestly like this mechanic should be on the beaten? Give some competition. I guess back road.

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 139: This Is For You, Kobe Bryant

GSMC Entertainment Podcast

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 139: This Is For You, Kobe Bryant

"The girl but the day. Just be one without your Hollywood Vince. Golden state media concepts. That are ten podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive use of pop culture Hello and welcome to GMC entertainment podcast brought brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am your house. Cynthia and happy Monday. I I don't really know high I I want to start off this podcast As I'm sure most of you have already received the news and you guys could tell by The title of today's episode I'm Kinda like in a sombre mood. I'm not as cheery and happy as I normally normally am and I'm sure many of you also feel the same way and unless who live under a rock. You probably know exactly what I'm talking about I I mean yesterday morning. Something extremely tragic and shop shocking happened. I was at the. La Fit Expo over the weekend. I was at the Los Angeles Convention Center. And I noticed thought everybody was wearing Lakers jerseys and and specifically Kobe Bryant stirs and it was a lot more than normal and I started questioned. Why there were so many Guests at the Convention concentre wearing his Jersey. And that's when I overheard someone who came up to our booth and mentioned Koby Bryant passed away and again. I'm I'm in the middle of working at the expo and I overheard then I was like why it like no. I didn't believe it and I check my phone and I see multiple messages from my friends. I see my mom texted me. I see my boyfriend. Texted me all asking me telling me if I've I've heard of the tragic news of Kobe Bryant and Mike Okay why and I and then that's when I found out in the middle of working at this convention center where I'm supposed to be happy and in a good mood in a cheerful mood. The Kobe Bryant had passed. And I still can't believe it and I'm still shook and the title honestly didn't even know how I wanted to start off this podcast on McKay like I feel like everyone still kind of in that somber mood today and I know that totally when I found that out like it affected my mood completely I went and a complete one eighty I was like whoa the world kind of stopped for a second I feel like melodic view are going to remember exactly the time and place what you were doing where you were when you found out this tragic news Sunday Sunday morning yesterday I think the whole world stopped when they found this out that you know this. NBA Legend Kobe Bryant and his thirteen eighteen year old daughter G G BRYANT PASTA WAY IN A fatal helicopter crash I mean the whole world is mourning has dead and I know we're all kind of in the same boat. You don't even have to be a basketball fan or a sports fan. He was a superstar. Everybody knew who Kobe Bryant was like you. You hear his name Kobe unity know who he was and he was a very respected man You know had really great family values. He was a family man. And that's just even more respectable. Even after his after he retired his post basketball life and all the amazing work he he was doing so I'm still like shook and I don't know if you guys can even tell by like how shaky my voice was. I usually or how shaky my voice is currently. I usually never get to connected with a celebrity's death or like a death you know to I never feel to Saad over a death that about a person who I never knew personally like. Even when Michael Jackson passed I was sad. Of course. It's always you know not good news when someone has passed away but I didn't feel that like deep connection to him and I didn't really look up to him in that way maybe not sense. Why was it to Saad? And this is the first celebrities death breath if you will where I actually had like I got teary eyed and like I feel like my heart so heavy and it's so hard for me to even talk about this right now because it's just like like such a terrible lake stories. Such a terrible ending to such an amazing human being and Kobe. Bryant was only forty one years old guys like he's still young and he still had so much work ahead of him. I feel like his career was still I mean if he he's been peaking but but like I just knew there was so much more potential. There's so much more good he was going to be putting out into this world and for those of you. Who Don't know not only did Kobe? Toby Bryant and his very young daughter Digi Bryant pass and this fatal accident. There were nine people on board two of those being Kobe Bryant Angie NJIT Bryant and no one survived the crash. There were three families involved brief families on board one of whom were G. One was a Jiji's he's teammate. And her parents and the pilot as well and the only passengers as of right now who have been identified in this accident. are Colby Colby and g g the rest are unidentified and this is just so tragic. I mean they were. They usually take Helicopters everywhere a Kobe Bryant and his family live in Newport beach which is an Orange County California and they were fine two thousand oaks for A. They were traveling to a basketball. The game and this is when they the helicopter there are riding in crashed into and crashed and literally burst into flames in the hills. Above cal calabasas California and like Isaac is still stuttering. 'cause it's just so hard to believe in like as I still haven't really processed I feel like this is just not real The L. A. Sheriff's office says there were visibility issues but the cause of the crash has not officially been determined and they will still be further investigating this issue Which is why they have asked people in the surrounding area to make sure they stay? Stay clear off those roads so that investigators and police and everybody who's involved in the investigation can easily access The area of where the incident took a place and it was. This is so shocking to me If you guys have seen there's a video circling around I found it on twitter. I don't know if it's like posted on the On instagram or wherever but I know was on twitter. There were hikers and cyclists On that road in the calabasses Bassus mountains and there were witnesses who saw this terrible incident and recorded it. I mean they obviously didn't know that it was Kobe Bryant Ryan but they saw when I was reading the reports. These hikers heard it helicopter too close for comfort coming towards not really towards they just saw the it was slowly lowering and lowering closer to the mountain so they recorded it and the video was just so appalling it really. I'm still shook it looked straight out of a movie scene. If you have seen the video of their crash rush then you know how shocking it is because it doesn't even look real like so the helicopters flying and something like falls but you. I can't tell what it is. It's kind of pixelated in the video so something falls out of the helicopter and once that object flies out of helicopter. The helicopter starts spinning so fast like spinning so fast and it crashes and literally burst into flames like explodes and and there's just so much fire and smoke like even the people who recording gassed and started crying again. Not knowing that it was Kobe Bryant Ryan and his daughter and I. It's just so shocking. It really struck me when I saw that video like I i. That's when real tears are coming out because because like this is just so crazy unbelievable heartbreaking. I cannot even believe it again. It doesn't look real if you see the video literally. Looks like it's out of a movie scene and I just what is the most heartbreaking part for me is knowing what were Kobe's and Gee gees last moments together. You know like their last moments in that helicopter. They're spinning and they're literally just falling going to their deaths and they all know that like how what were their last moments each other how was he comforting. Her could even come for her like she could. He probably didn't couldn't even say like everything's going to be okay or you know like because he probably knew like this is going going to just end badly. We're early falling toward docile. Just like those last moments together Gijon. Kobe like breaks my heart. And that's what really gets me choked dubbed just thinking about the G. G.. She's thirteen and she was literally becoming the next like female Kobe Bryant and you know their chemistry Hammet street us. Father and daughter was so beautiful to watch there was a video circling around Twitter also a couple months ago where Kobe Bryant took Hook G. G. TO A. Wnba women's basketball game and he was kind of giving her pointers and he was coaching her and like really showing her the game and it was just there what came came to be a mean is now like we look on not video now and it's like something so beautiful to watch because they have such a special connection with one another and their love for the game for the game of basketball was so just touching and like the fact that they both left this world together and out of all his daughters. She's the one who looks identical twin. Like she looks he. She's a copy and paste of Kobe Bryant. And it's just so sad and and I cannot cannot imagine what Vanessa Bryant and the rest of the family is going through and even the family of the other seven the people who perished in the accident as well like I just cannot wrap around my mind around what they're going through their emotions how they found out about the news news. I read somewhere that Vanessa Bryant and the and the oldest sister Natalia they found out through social media and I feel it's just the worst. That's one of the cons social media as they don't respect the families you know of the ones whose parish it's like you have to find out their social media like what happened. I've been to your loved one so I'm GonNa take a quick break here and when we come back. I'm GonNa talk about more of this incident. Hi I'm Greg. I'm the the CEO and founder of Silver Recovery Center. If you're struggling with alcohol math heroin pills. We can help you. We treat you in a way that's going to help you want to stay and want to do it. 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Okay hello and welcome back to TSMC entertainment thirteen podcast and I'm going to continue discussing Again the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant and his daughter gee-gee Bryant as I was sitting in the previous segment they Experience a fatal helicopter accident in Calabasas and again it's still so shocking. Walking and I found out was that work at the L. A. Fit Expo and another crazy thing too is I was in la when this happened and for those of you who don't know were. I'm familiar with away. The Convention Center I was I is right next literally across the street from the staple center and downtown was crazy. When I love the Convention Center there was a memorial service at Staples Center right outside and there were so many people walking and I actually went to his memorial service so I went there and everybody's wearing his Jersey people have flowers so many people are crying like and for the amount of the huge crowd that I was in? Everybody was so quiet like nobody was talking all over. La Downtown La. It was just like bellboy not billboards but the buildings had Kobe's picture on it. Some were saying we love you. Kobe and gee-gee another one said Mamba forever and I was like taking pictures And it was just such A. I don't even know what that moment because it was like okay. I was at this great event and at this great event I found out this terrible news and Like I was just like a mix of emotions and I still am and it was just crazy for me to experience that in La the day Eva's passing at his home his second home at Staples Center like all hit me. It was just all so much like I had to leave the memorial service because it was getting I was just getting too emotional like I was like. Oh my goodness I feel I feel his presence there and it is crazy it was just really really crazy. I'm it is I quickly mentioned in the previous segment. Even you know. Many sports fans in basketball fans admired his work on the court for but she was also very respected and very admired For his work off the court and after Kobe. Bryant's death this Sunday His short film has oscar-nominated Oscar. Winning short film. Dear basketball was super hard and difficult to watch online online. But is now viewable for free on the Internet Greenwich Studios The NBA Stars Multimedia Production Company Buzney made the Academy Award Winning Film Dear Basketball now available for free This Monday afternoon on dear basketball DOT COM website. And the meal. And if you guys haven't seen this short film it's like probably like a two three minute film Dear basketball is based on a poem that Koby Bryant row in November of two thousand fifteen to announce his retirement. So it's a year before his atonement and they'll the poem was published by Kobe Bryant by the player's Tribune which is a website that features first person accounts by pro athletes. And you know we we. I know when that video first released in two thousand fifteen we all were Celik. Oh no like. We obviously didn't want him to retire because everyone loved he was a beast on the core. A and again he was just super respected like he was a superstar. And now we have that Award Academy Award winning video to look back on and reflect. And Oh my God just like all the emotions like all these waterworks. At coming I watched the video and again I just got teary eye. Because like he's just so oh inspiring in every aspect and the NBA also has postponed the Lakers and clippers game. That was scheduled for Tuesday. which just tomorrow so they postponed? Obviously the the decision was made out of respect for the Lakers organization. which you know? They're deeply grieving. Even the tragic loss of this Lakers legend His daughter as well gee-gee Jonah and the seven other people who were involved in the helicopter crash Josh And like I was I was. I'm continuing to say his post basketball. Life has made him a legend on and off the court. Like he's he's just I respect him so much and as you're such a tragic as close to tragedy like I'm still at a loss for words. This is heartbreaking You know he even. He opened the Mamba Sports Academy training facility to help athletes improve on an overseas a series of sports fantasy children's book because he says that he just loves telling stories and he loves handing those tools that he wished he had growing up he. He loves handing those tools rules to the youth. And you know just inspiring them to be better and I just really admired all of his work on enough core 'em. This is even a setback for women's basketball. I mean since his retirement in two thousand Sixteen Koby Bryant has been boosting and supporting women's basketball and the WNBA in general you know from taking has his daughter's like Dj to Wnba Games to coaching his daughter. The basketball Kobe Bryant was setting the stage to become an invaluable contributor in arena. That needed support. Because I mean as we all know just women's sports in general doesn't get too much spotlight for one. They don't even get paid nearly as much or equivalent to men's lends a sports and I love the Kobe. Bryant was you know. Here's this. Powerful male figures sports figure who uses his voice to lift women's basketball and uses platform to shed light on them and be like. Hey you know. These women need to be treated is equal to men's sports and I love the he was in stealing those amazing values that Mamba mentality down to his daughter as as well and to g-gender threats just as whole story is so twisted because G G was literally she had so much potential like she was just starting to peak and women's basketball and the ED. WNBA was starting to look at her as well she had amazing highlights. I mean she was truly truly going to be carrying out the legacy of Kobe Bryant and I love to I mean obviously now with tragedy laws. There's so many interviews news pass interviews at Kobe. Bryant has done that resurfacing to kind of highlight. What a wonderful person he has been or has been in the forty one years of his life life and one of those being someone asked him or he was talking on this show about how people always coming go to him like man? You need a boy like we need to have a a son to carry out your legacy and how he and Kobe Bryant explained like I got gee-gee Jiji's got this. She's got it down. She's is going to be the one carrying out my legacy. You know in terms of basketball. He has four daughters and another. Just so heartbreaking. Taking thing is that he just had a baby with Vanessa Bryant like less than a year ago I think the youngest one Capri Kobe Bryant. She's six or seven seven months and now she's going to have to grow up not really knowing her father nor her sister and she also are they also have like a four year old baby girl and Taller. There's just so heartbreaking the truly is again my heart is so heavy talking about this and Dan even more because I experience like I was in La. When I got the news I was right next to the staple center? I went to the memorial service where it all just felt very real for for me and raw and my heart just goes out to everybody WHO's affected by this tragic laws family members friends of Kobe Bryant and the other two families also involved I mean is just really so so sad all over instagram Oliver Social Media every post that I see I'm scrolling that Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant and my boyfriend's a diehard Lakers fan but more clubby fan and same with my uncle and I can't even imagine also like that was like your Colby Bryant was you know a lot of people's favorite a player especially Athletes like a lot of athletes looked up to him and he like the people that he meant toward really without you hem even knowing the end is just such a tragedy like a truly truly is and again I just want to say. I want to dedicate this whole episode to him to to Kobe Bryant. May he rest in peace and rest. Imperative is as walls his daughter. And I'm I'm going to cut into another quick break when we come back I will be talking about this. Year is twenty. Twenty Grammy's tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen causing and here this out. There's a podcast network. That covers you just about everything that you've been searched. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than our podcast bliss with with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build. That podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. WWW DOT GS MC podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play Hey guys and welcome back T. GMC entertainment podcast. That was a much much needed break on my end. That was a lot of heavy stuff that I was talking about and I literally felt like I was Gonna get choked up and I'm like I'm not up on a start crying on this podcast sir. I I know you guys don't WanNa hear me AK cry. John Means like cry in Spanish. But Yeah I'm about to do that to you guys I WANNA move onto a more Celebratory no a happier. No and I want to talk about this year's twenty twenty grammy's which again this was also just really crazy for me because says I was at the Convention Center Staple Center is right next to me again. That was Kobe. Bryant's home by was also the day that he passed. The day of the Grammy's the Grammy's was held at the staple center so there was chaos in downtown alright and it was even crazier. They got to experience that by the way I saw ditty which is crazy. I saw daddy at Staples Center yesterday. It was grammy. So it's like it was really a lot of things things happening yesterday in l. a. m. like I just said so this year sixty second Grammy Award show took place This past Sunday yesterday at Staples Center honor in La. And I WANNA I share with the all like some of my favorite moments most memorable moments of the grammy's and then I'll move move on to some of the winners the recipients of the Knight's and I WANNA start off with Liz so Liz oh she opened the show. What the performance for or two songs? 'cause I love you and Truth Hurts and let me just save. This was my first time ever watching Lazaro Lazaro perform live and I loved every single second of it I was entertained from start to finish like. She's she's truly unique and unapologetically herself and I respect her so much for that. So Schieffer's comes out wearing being a long black sparkley ground. She looks very elegant. She's center stage and she first starts off saying tonight is for you Kobe and then she performs her song 'cause I love you and she doesn't like an and then she doesn't amazingly fast outfit outfit changed so after she's done performing that first song Ballerinas in GLOWNA DR N glow in the dark outfits. Come out mind you this is probably twenty Queenie. Second intermission. The Lights shut down the ballerinas come out in their glowing glow in the dark outfit. Twenty seconds the lights turned on and Liz. Oh isn't a completely different outfit. She changes into this like sparkley jumpsuit. But I was like she probably was wearing underneath the gallon but it was super super amazingly fast. How she changed? I was like Whoa. WHOA I was caught off guard and my favorite part of her performance that I actually like tackled and laughed out loud was only going to have to see the video? So she's like in the middle performing truth hurts a flute. uh-huh okay a flu comes down from the middle of nowhere it came from the blue comes down from the ceiling. She grabs it and she starts playing find the flu. which by the way? She's so talented with the instrument. She starts playing that flu and in the middle of her. She likes stops as she goes. And she yells period period. For those of you. Who Don't understand like what that is like period is almost like a statement? Now it's like this thing going around social media It it originated from city girls. There this rap duo for Miami and they're always in a period and you say it with attitude after you're saying something like I'm GonNa give you an example so say you're talking to somebody and you're trying to make a point and okay here we go to girl's talking one girl dumps or breaks up with her boyfriend and she rants about how She's going to live her best life after him and then she goes period. That's kind of like you know period like what is ending statement made my point point. Prove it so that's what period means and I was so funny how Lezoux SCR Y'all's gals that in the middle of a performance. While she's playing the flue she takes it breath. She's like period out of nowhere. And again I just. She's unapologetically herself. And you can't hate her for that. Even though people to hate it for that and I was amazed. She's an amazing performer with a vocal range instrumentally talented and and all I love her energy and people cannot hate only allow people hate on her for her size but she got stamina okay to be performing. She put on like one hour shows and to be dancing and to have that vocal range on to have that presence on stage that takes a lot of stamina and a lot of work works so I applaud Lezo. I love that. She opened the grammy's She's she's just killing it. She's speaking right now. I'm living for Lonzo and another another one. Another one of my favorite moments of the grammys was also a performance by Alicia keys and by boys to men they also performed after Lazaro and they open the show in the most precious and thoughtful way they also dedicated their performance to Kobe. Bryant and their their Their performance was definitely more somber Not as a high energy is Lonzo and they definitely got their message across Their message was on point. They're singing was on point and it sounded beautiful booze also just so sad odd There were people crying. When the camera panned to some of the audience members over w who got teary eyed I definitely got teary eyed? Watching the video I had to pause. Recycle let me collect myself before I continue watching the video by was definitely more of a somber attitude So it was. Yeah it was definitely sad like just almost felt like there was just like a dark cloud hovering over the grammys because A. K.. Here they are you're there in staple center in La. The day. Kobe Bryant dies and in his home. You know in his basketball home. So there's definitely like you. It's like you're happy but you can't be too happy because it's like something. Just tragic just happens was definitely just like A. WE'RE EAR NOT WEIRD SOMBER DARK cloud hovering over the grammy's And another one of my favorite moments favorite moment of mine from the grammys Was Billy Porter's outfit but more specifically has had and have you guys haven't seen I want you to stop this. Go Watch watch or go on twitter or go on Google type in billy porter. Grammy's outfit so you understand what I'm talking about. Because his outfit was everything I I named him best dressed for this year's twenty twenty Grammy Awards. His hat inspired a whole lot of memes. So he arrived on the grammy's red carpet wearing a hat a sparkled. Blue Hat that matches Sparkley blue outfit. Okay and APP breath and this hat at. I look to feature like a standard like fringe love but it turned out to be a motorized curtain. Okay so imagine. Imagine a blue sparkley hat like. I don't even know what those are called. They're kind of like an right now. It's their kind of long. I'm describing a well. You guys are probably always in like what are you talking about. But there's a fringe all along the hat and it literally opens up and the he opened the curtain for or the cameras and then he would close it when it's done and I know I'm probably not describing as well as I could be. So that's what I'm saying. Google it right now billy Porter Grammy's outfit the and you'll know what I'm talking about and get a good laugh because it was just iconic that outfit Sto funny another one of the most memorable moments of the grammys was Arianna Arianna Grandes massive dress. Also like she was literally swimming in that dress. Okay it was funny because I saw this on twitter were goes. It's a a picture of the grammy's like all the audience members and you can easily spot Arianna Guerande in the crowd and it goes Arianna Arianna grenade taking up fifty percent of the seats. Because that's how huge her dress was. It was like massive Definitely the center of attention attention. The Grammy's She gave she was giving me like Cinderella Disney Princess Vibes. That's what I got when I was you know when I was looking at pictures of her at the grammys But she looked gorgeous. I sure but she definitely was giving me like Cinderella Vibes as she was working. The red carpet So yeah those are definitely my most favorite memorable moments and have you watched the grammys. I'm sure those were also your favorites. So it was Lozano's Lozada's opening performance. It was Alicia keys and Bob Boys to men tribute to Kobe Bryant. And it was belly porter's outfit outfit and Arianna grenades outfit as well and again. I'M GONNA cut into another break and when I come back. I'm going to dive in into some of the winners of this year's Twenty Twenty Grammy Awards Golden State media concepts. Bring you book review. You can I haven for book rooms of all ages and the widest John Rose from mystery to memoirs romance to Comedy Fantasy. A seat sci-fi if you love to read this is a podcast leave. It's the Golden State media concepts book review PODCASTS Yeah Hello and welcome back to GSM ST entertainment podcast. And let's get back to the program here and I wanNA share with the guys now. Some of the winners of this year's twenty twenty grammy awards shows there are over eighty four cowdery categories stories. I will not go through every single one because the list is endless They truly like award everybody in in every Genre Contemporary Jazz Gospel you name it. They got it. They got an award So I'm just GonNa pull kind of more of the mainstream mm-hmm awards what was trending on twitter. What making the headlines? So that's really what I'm GONNA be covering and I'm GonNa Start with this first. One so record. Good of the year was awarded to eighteen year. Old Young Star Belly Irish for her record. Bad Guy. This is beating Lizardo. Low gnaws X. Arianna Arianna `Grande her Khalid Post Malone is sway lease so record of the year belly Irish. This happens to be one of the so. There's four top categories. He's at the grammys record of the year album of the year song of the year and best new artist those are like the top four main categories his. And guess what your girl young belly. Irish won all four categories guys record of the year album of the year song of the year. Best new artist. Aw once swept by belly Irish which is crazy. She made history by I for one dethroning Taylor swift as the youngest album of the year. When at the grammys but not only that billy also made history no no one? Since Christopher Cross and nineteen ninety-one has swept all four major categories in the same year and since Nineteen eighty-one twenty. Now now twenty twenty belly island now holds the crown for that so she was definitely the biggest winner of the night and to be eighteen to win. All four major categories. I mean. That's huge. So major congratulations to billy island. What's amazing to be You know to be making history in that way and for winning all four major categories and one night. So congratulations civility Irish if you listen to this and now moving on to best pop solo performance. This was awarded to Liz. Though for truth hurts after watching her opening performance mance For this year's grammys. I'm not surprised she took home this award for best pop performance because that woman could definitely give a show she so entertaining meaning and for best pop duo group performance. This was won by Lola's x featuring billy ray Cyrus for their hit single Ole town town road the remix. Now I feel like Jonas brothers should have won this Not that LIL GNAWS X. is a bad performer. Summer but I'm just a fan of the Jonas brothers a definitely of your like if you grew up in my generation like high school musical camp rock phase. You feel me like we grew up watching the Jonas brothers present. They were like the guy so again. You could probably people may disagree with me but I love the journalist Brennan Jonas brothers and I think they should've went okay and for best pop vocal album belly Irish for her album when we all fall asleep. Where do we go so she took home home? The most awards for Grammy's not only won all four major categories. But she wants she took home. Five grammys last night. Amazing really is and for best alternative music album. This was won by vampire weekend for their album. Father of the bride best rb performance midst one by under impact featuring Andre Three thousand for their performance for come home best rb Song kind of like songwriter. They give it to. This one was prizing for me. This kind of shocked me a little bit this was given to. PJ more in for his song. Stay so Chris. Brown's should have won this. Okay let me just say that Chris Brown song. No guidance was a nominated for this specific category as well for best rb. A song. Chris Brown did not win. He actually didn't win any grimy last night but I think for this specific song he definitely should have one when no guidance came out last year last summer Mer that was like the it song for twenty nine hundred these summer anthem and it was playing everywhere in clubs Everywhere the radio they still do. It's a hit song so I'm surprised that it took it home for that. Category and for best are MB album. It it was won by Anderson Pock for his album. Ventura this is him beating. BJ The Chicago Kid Ella. My lucky day MPG more it. I love elyse album. I think she should have wine. I care like I said every no one's ever gonNA be happy with the results including myself now. This one I loved. I loved For Best rap performance this was won by icon nipsy hustle featuring roddy rich and hit boy for their song racks. The middle. This was also up against the baby. Cardi B. J. Cole others nipsy Russell Want to post Humus awards so he won best rap performance and best rap song with a DJ cow and John London for their song higher so it was like a lot of There's been a lot of tragedies did you use I mean last year we lost nipsy Russell again. I remember vividly where I was I it was like a chill Sunday. I was chilling at home and I got the news. I thought on twitter and then Kobe. Bryant's you know yesterday so at the end of their performance. Dj Paladin John Legend performed higher at the grammys And the grammies was actress supposed to pay tribute to nipsy household but they also ended up adding and ending the performance with the tribute tribute to Kobe. So the hard you know a picture of nipsy hustle and alongside him Kobe and also one of my favorite moments and when are most like touching being heartfelt moment seeing to legends to icons you know to icons gone too soon as a really crazy really emotional national night for everybody in that arena at Staples Center and for best rap album. It was given to tyler the creator for his Album Gore. I really hope I'm saying that right. A Gore ideal are. This is his first grammy win. So congratulations out of the Creator I believe this was the tough category because I think all of the nominated albums end. This specific category had a chance of winning Twenty twenty one. Savage Edge was nominated meek mill for his album championships dream dream bill for his album. And revenge of the dreamers. Three all of them were Graham. A fan of all three the Project so I think any of these I would have been pleased with. They would've won pretty. It's been a pretty good year for rap music I would say I am for best rap song. It was awarded to twenty one savage featuring j Cole for their hit single a lot. I I love that song and for best reggae album. Will I love reggae. Best reggae album was awarded to coffee for his album enrapture. I wonder if there's an award show where they just dedicated. Just to like reggae afrobeat music. I feel like there's there's not any award show dedicated that specific genre. I mean we have the soul train awards which dedicated to mainly our NBC so music smell. Psalm Lamis I cannot speak on my goodness Saum Use Music and Gospel Music and then we have Like the awards and all all these other John Rose kind of have their own thing even for country feel like Reggae afrobeat music really and I would love to see if one day someone creates eighteen awards show for them. Because I'm a fan of that genre of music I love island is So I'm glad that they were also included for the grammy's and for for a best music film of course. I'm not even questioning this. I might even surprise by the recipient of this award. It's our girl. Will the Queen Queen Bee beyond say for the film homecoming on Netflix. Go check it out if you haven't seen it and for best music video. This is the very last award I will be sharing with. The guys best music video was given to low gnaws acts between billy ray Cyrus for again and their hit single old town road remix so a lot of great wins on Billy Billy. I definitely was came up with the big W for the night with five total. Grammy wins and out of those five four of them being out of the major categories. And as I said earlier The though the Naiad in unexpected dark cloud overhead with the recent news of basketball legend Kobe. Bryant's passing Alicia Keys. You know she was a host at least a keys and many other performers came through with both respectful tributes and still L. Celebratory Vibes His Jersey's numbers eight and twenty. Four were illuminated all night long and the staple center and I know oh I know his presence was definitely felt in that arena especially sends. The Grammy Awards did take place and Kobe. Second Home Staples Senator. You know he really belt. That's like where in here celebrating music and the house were Kobe. Belt made memories like Oh my goodness so again. I dedicate this entire episode to Kobe. Bryant his family to G G Bryant my heart my prayers everything going going out to those affected by this tragedy by this loss. And you guys. That's going to wrap up today's episode. 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Mourning Kobe Bryant

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Mourning Kobe Bryant

"Is like a bad dream is so sudden readiness. So surreal I I. I honestly don't. I don't know what to say. You know recipes because we weren't man. One of the greatest Lakers element today. Eh Mourning the death of basketball legend. Kobe Bryant from wondering athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm the Davidson. It's Monday January. Twenty seven and this is the lead it felt like something was Gulshan users pass. Don't matter because I had never seen anything like that. This isn't a story it stays with you so beat the. We're here to talk about the tragic. Death breath of former Lakers star. Kobe Bryant who died in a helicopter crash yesterday along with we believe eight other people. So let's start with what what we know happened on Sunday morning people living in Calabasas a town west of La heard a loud noise one person. Jason said they heard the sound of helicopter blades and then allowed impact and then people saw a fire erupt and the L. A. County Fire Department received nine one one call at nine forty seven. AM local time about brushfire and a potential helicopter down and CALABASAS. Is this town that sort of spills. Dell's up on the side of the Santa Monica Mountains. Like you said about thirty miles northwest of downtown. La and the crash happened in a pretty hard to reach mountainous area near. You're there. Yeah it's it's the sort of woodsy terrain it's it's prone to brushfires and they've had problems with fires there for some time including a really big fire. There air in two thousand eighteen at a news conference Sunday afternoon. Daryl odds be a spokesperson for the La County Fire Department said that they dispatched a really really large crew of people in response to the crash and the fire. The loss of this county fire department initial response was fifteen pieces of apparatus. Fifty six personnel that consisted of paramedics catching company. Heavy rescue truck company hand crews the aircraft in a chief officer to oversee the incident but he said that the emergency responders did not find anyone alive at the scene of the crash Russian. They did a search of the area for survivors. Unfortunately all the survivors bore were determined to have the parish. And we also don't want to read into this too much because the cause of the crash is still being investigated but there was some really dense fog in los dangerous on Sunday. I actually was talking about it with someone on Sunday morning before we even heard about the crash. Yeah it's it's definitely something that is being talked about As a potential contributing factor in the crash and flights were delayed due to dense fog at LAX. On Saturday. But again we'll have to wait and see what the the investigation finds and so at the time that we're now speaking late Sunday night Los Angeles time. We believe that there were nine people on board the helicopter. Yeah at that Sunday Sunday afternoon. News Conference. Sheriff Alex Villanova made reference to a flight manifest basically a list of passengers on board an aircraft as achieve indicated. There were no survivors. We haven't manifests indicates that there was nine people on board the aircraft. The pilot plus eight individuals There arose the white speculation who had entities are however it is entirely inappropriate right now to identify anyone by name until the corner has made identification advocation through their very delivered profits. And they've made made enough -cation six again and there was this pretty remarkable moment where the sheriff called out out. TMZ apparently reporting that. Kobe Bryant had died and hinting that they broke that story before the Bryant family had been notified ride and it'd be extremely disrespectful to understand that your low one of these terrorists and learn about it from TMZ that is just wholly all the inappropriate. So we're not going to be going there. We're going to wait to the quarter desert job and we're assisting the families of those who believe there had been impacted and it's a IT'S A. It's a tough process but at this point multiple sources have confirmed a number of deaths two different media outlets so let's talk about Who We know was on that helicopter so Kobe Bryant who is forty one years old and his thirteen year old daughter? Jonah also known as G G. Jj was a young basketball player. Who is very much her father's daughter? She had his drive and his determination and she was very much the heir to the Bryant Basketball Mantle. You know Kobe had four daughters and G G would very famously say that. He didn't need a son to carry on his legacy that she would do that. And he talked talked about that on. The Jimmy. Kimmel show one time. Do you think your daughter Might WanNa play WNBA. She does for sure she this kid man happy we great man. The best thing the best thing that happened to go out and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me. It'd be like you gotTa have a boy you gotTa have a boy somebody carry on a tradition the legacy. She's like oh I got this. Aw got this. And he'd often be seen sitting with G. G. courtside analyzing the game with her in his daughter in the building breaking down the game. I Love I love this For multiple reasons great to have of course. Kobe Bryant his daughter here. But you could tell. Now he's sitting right near us but he's been breaking down. The chilton time to his daughter was a basketball player herself in that the beautiful awful thing. He was her coach you know. He coached her on her travel team and they were on their way to a game at Kobe's Mamba Sports Academy when when their helicopter crashed. And it's been reported that three of the other people on board were a baseball coach named John Kelly. His wife Kerry and their daughter Eliza Who was on the same basketball team as Kobe? Daughter Jonah. John is the one we know the most about so far. Yeah John Altobelli. Was College Baseball Baseball coach. He coached at Orange Coast College. For Twenty seven years he won four state titles and more than seven hundred games and from all accounts. He was the kind of coach who who truly put his players. I who who treated them like family. ESPN's Jeff Passan chalked. Jeff McNeil plays for the New York mets and had played for Altobelli Valley in the Cape Cod League and McNeill said quote. He's one of the main reasons I'm still playing professional baseball. And John Kerry altobelli reportedly have two surviving surviving children. Yes a teenage daughter Alexis and an adult son. Jj who is now a scout with the Boston Red Sox and Sunday night a local local news affiliate reported that another passenger on this helicopter was Christina. Moser would we know about her at this early point in time. She was an assistant basketball coach at harbor day school and Orange County. Her husband Matt posted on his facebook. Page saying that their family is devastated. Asking for privacy for himself in his children and we should note that Dr Jonathan Lucas. The chief medical examiner for the county of Los Angeles spoke Sunday night and said that they're in the process of recovering and identifying the bodies. But that that could take multiple days potentially given how difficult that is to access the crash site and the NTSB the National Transportation Safety Board is currently investigating the cause of this crash and so it could be that as of now there has not been unofficial statement from the Bryant family or from the Lakers. So there's still a lot we don't know oh but the reactions from the basketball world and really the entire world have really been pretty incredible and very emotional yeah they have NBA. Commissioner Adam. Silver called Kobe quote one of the most extraordinary players in the history of our game and cited his five. NBA Championships. Two Thousand Nine League. MVP Eighteen all star selections and two Olympic gold medals. Magic Johnson called Kobe the greatest Laker of all time and shack who won three championships with Kobe and his forever entwined with him tweeted about his heartbreak. His teammates they won three championships together. She kilo. Neil there's no words to express the pain I'm going through with this tragedy of losing my niece gee-gee and my brother Koby Bryan. I love you and you'll be missed my condolences Sousse go out to the Bryant. Family and Doc rivers the clippers. Coach got very choked up in front of reporters when he was asked about Kobe shortly after he got the news. I don't have a lot to say. The news is just devastating to everybody. Who Noah you know? And you know he just he meant it means a a lot to me. Obviously you know we also saw NBA teams throughout the League. Honor Koby during games and this has been happening all all around the League every team I possession taking a twenty four second shot clock violations as an Omagh the Kobe Bryant number twenty four. I mean Kobe was such a transcendent. Sports figure everyone has been weighing in former president. Barack Obama tweeted needed his condolences writing. Kobe was a legend on the court. And just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second. ACT TO LOSE Jonah. His daughter is is even more heartbreaking to us as parents Michelle and I send love and prayers to Vanessa and the entire Bryant family on an unthinkable day. The President President President trump also tweeting this afternoon. This is terrible news and you know. Sports didn't stop yesterday. We saw tributes being paid to him at at things like the pro bowl and and inside the staple center last night at the Grammys Alicia keys pay tribute as well and we're literally standing here heartbroken in the house that Kobe Bryant built so Ah You and our producer. Chris Segal went to the staple center on Sunday afternoon. Just a few hours after the crash. What was the scene like down there? You know we. We got there fairly early in the morning right after we heard the news break and people were still assembling and it was strangely. Quiet there is something heavy about the quietness at this place that you know it's La live. It's right in front of Staple Center. It's a lively outdoor space where there's usually music and people congregating and there were for all the people that were there there was no sound and also because the grammy's were happening there there. You know you saw this mix of people who were morning and who were in Lakers jerseys with people who were also morning but in sequined gowns and there was just something thing bizarre and completely surreal about the atmosphere there. There is this powerful moment where Kobe's image finally appears on a video screen. Lean at the Microsoft Center at the Xbox Plaza and people just started cheering and applauding. And what are the people that you spoke with down there have to say while we met this guy named Gabriel Pariahs who had shown up with this the big wreath of flowers of course of purple and white flowers and the crowd kind of started to gather when he walked in with this wreath and he. He's he set it up on this wooden stand and I just. I wanted to know about his his motivation. What compelled you to make this flower? Arrangement Spin angeline all my life so I need to come show something even though it was like the worst time to do it but kind of like pay my respects to go and and where were you when you heard the news in Hollywood. How's driving home full over in downtown and I heard about it so when I had the first meteorite away so there was a woman named Andrea sipping belly? Waugh's who at first was too emotional. Talk to me frankly Sushi kind of deferred word to her partner but eventually she did tell me about what Koby meant to her and particularly her and her family he was my idol growing up. I mean I mean. Ever since I was young my dad had me watching him play and we had all these jerseys and he was true to La and he was just part of our home and so for him to go. It's just hard times like this. I think a lot of people just I wanna make something of their families. Or you'RE GONNA you're GonNa Hug your dad extra tight museum. Yeah I mean my whole family. Every laker game there were like forty many of us. That would watch together at our house in Baldwin Park. And I think we're all morning right now so Just goes to show you that anything can happen. And you just I have to live in the presence so Which is pretty for his family and his daughters at this? And there is this guy named Bobby Jimenez who was holding holding his daughter his his baby girl and you know he was sobbing and and at one point exclaimed out in the crowd and kissed her on the cheek and he had clearly been inspired fired by Kobe. His daughter's grown inspire me do never heard to Ooh how he loved. His daughters is how I got. I went to the book. Signing my daughter meet him in Newport Duda society. It's overwhelming. I can't believe do man. I don't miss this. Make no sense. He was everything thing to me. He was everything I was playing baseball. My Dad's with me to a basketball game. I saw Kobe. That was it. It was a route equipped baseball and I went straight to basketball and I played. I played it all the way up until torme. CEO This dude is everything to me. It makes like man's make no sense and people flooding in in in their purple and gold and a lot of people brought their kids. A lot of people just wanted to share this moment with their children their family and their people hugging and crying and and just holding onto their loved. Ones didn't really know what to do with themselves. You know there are some people who die. Hi where do you remember where you were when you heard that they died and Kobe. Bryant is his one of those people. Thank you for your reporting on this. And we'll talk more about Kobe and take a look back at his remarkable life and career. You're in tomorrow's episode. Thanks for listening tomorrow.

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Kobe Bryant, remembered

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Kobe Bryant, remembered

"What's up open floor globe this Bengal with the Washington Post? I am joined on the other line by Michael Pena of SP SP nation. Now Michael. We are speaking on Monday morning. Of course tragic news hit on Sunday Los Angeles Lakers legend Kobe Bryant and his daughter Jonah. Who was thirteen? Thirteen years old. Were both passengers in a helicopter that crashed near Calabasas California which is about thirty miles or so north west of Los Angelis both Kobe Bryant and his daughter. Jonah passed away as did the other seven passengers of the helicopter of course. Kobe was sort heard of legendarily known for flying the Kobe chopper around. La To beat traffic both during and after his career It's a horrible tragedy. I think that that speaks for itself. Michael I'm curious. I mean first of all. I'd like to ask for some bandwidth you know and some understanding from our listeners. We're trying to pick up the pieces after this. You know huge news event. I just like everyone else. I don't know about Michael but I'm running on very short sleep. It's been emotional High Stress Twenty four hours so bear with us here for a little bit scatter brained. If we're all over the map but Michael. I thought we would start sort of with the remembrance of Coby Okay Bryan. We'll dig into how you heard the news and what the reaction was around the league and everything else but I think just right off the top. What is your number one? Kobe Bryant memory memory from his career. Twenty years with the Los Angeles Lakers number four all time. NBA Score Five rings to finals. MVP's two Olympic gold medals. There's so much to pick from. What's your number one memory of Kobe? Bryant Man Ben this is it's it's so difficult to pin this down to just one thing I mean I grew up a some know this but I grew up a celtics. Fan and Kobe was especially once the Celtics started to be relevant and competitive in the late two thousands. Kobe was public enemy number. One and I I did not like him at all. I'll say that upfront Is this a case where public enemy number. One actually under sells it. I mean I feel like the animosity that rivalry specifically made made him the most polarizing guy in the sport. The most hated guy in Boston. I mean how far can we take this for sure I. It's it's tough to go beyond that at the time and from two thousand eight two thousand ten I mean I yeah I did not like him at all But you know looking looking back on it now. I mean I had so much fear. Every single time he had the by did not want him to shoot you know. Even in the six hundred twenty four game might did not want Kobe Bryant to shoot the ball. I was petrified of him. I exhaled every single time. He passed the ball or subbed out of the game. He was terrifying lying opponent. And that's bad news Michael because he liked to shoot and he urged shot early shot off and I don't think you're too much during his career where you're kind a hold your breath for twenty straight years. Yeah that's exactly that's exactly right And I mean doc rivers said it really well. Yesterday he was was just such a great opponent. And you know. I can't speak for Kobe or anything like that but I can. I would be willing to bet that his two thousand ten championship championship over the Celtics meant a lot more to him. Personally than the two thousand nine one over the Orlando Magic. It was just that it was a great rivalry It is forever lodged in my brain for a euphoric reasons and impossibly painful ones and You know speaking just in the context of basketball which is obviously not what we're here to discuss entirely That's what I kind of pops into my head. Just when I think about Coby O'Brian and and the different dimensions of who he was as a basketball player. Yeah if I remember back to his retirement tour I believe he did say that title was the most meaningful of the five for him because of the the heated nature of the robbery and I guess the revenge factor as well you know I have an interesting Prism on this. I think too because growing up in Portland Oregon. I mean the Lakers were sort of the the hated rival as well You know it might not be that same level as the national rivalry of the the Celtics and Lakers. But man you know. Big Market Small Market Hollywood versus hometown. I mean all that stuff was absolutely at play for Blazers fans growing up I did actually. I had another kind of layer to my relationship as as kind of a basketball fan with Kobe. Brian Brian especially early in his career. Because I was like personally offended. Anyone would try to be the next Michael Jordan right of course when we're all out in the you know the cul de sac doc or on the street or in the gym shooting turnarounds with our tongues out wearing twenty three in games. Everybody wanted to be the next Jordan right but I always felt like Kobe was just taking get too far. You know I I was such a devout Michael Jordan Fan. It was like he was this impostor who is this guy Who deigns to be like Michael Jordan? Wisey see challenging Michael Jordan and the All Star game doesn't he have respect for this guy and I think as his career evolved. He shed that connects Michael Jordan. Label fairly quickly I think the fact that he had the Shaquille O'Neal partnership was one step towards that I think You you know. Just the the longevity factor of how long he played canopy gave him his own lane as well And then you know. Of course Kobe was just. Kobe had his own personality. A It really came through with the Black Mamba Mentality. Stuff that You know he kind of pained his entire persona on late in his career. And that's really when I came around to Coby I. I moved to Los Angeles during his last year. And I was thinking yesterday how it like time in L. A. is all like you know. It's like before Kobe and after Kobe. It's like BBC at a D. right so it's like my first year in La was Kobe's last season. The retirement tour and I was completely transfixed I mean for years I had been kind of killing the Lakers overpaying on his contract what are they doing you know. Don't they realize that he's post Achilles adult they realize that he's not as efficient efficient as it used to be east shooting his team out of games. He's standing in the way of his teammates developing. But when you get down there and you understand the cult of personality. The size of the Lakers fan base the fact that he could go for forty and they would rather than anybody else take shot You realize you're kind of of in a different spot and I was just captivated more than anything by his personality. I think my number one memory of him well might have been depressed conferences where he was alternating tornadoes between like three different languages Italian Spanish and English at the drop of the hat and it was just like. Oh my God who is this guy like. How many professional athletes in America are able to to converse fluently with international media members? You know no problem whatsoever and make jokes and and like you know get positive reactions in three different languages but I remember the All star weekend in Toronto. His last all star game and remember he had been kind of giving all these tributes and and various things during his retirement tour but at all star weekend members of the foreign media came up and presented Koby with gifts right and this is like a huge breach of protocol as a media member. Not supposed to ask for self eased. You're not supposed to Ask for autographs. Certainly you're not supposed to bring like Italian soda. Unlike Fan art with Koby wearing like a Camo and you know swinging Samurai swords as like a goodbye present to Kobe and I was struck. You back on that moment because the APR people right there and they did not step in and it was awkward. And we're all kind of looking around snickering a little bit. Like oh you know. Don't these reporters quarters know what they're supposed to be doing. Kobe was so incredibly gracious In that moment he was just absolutely beaming and it was sort of like the. The League was allowing him to have this moment of global embrace On his goodbye tour whereas like hey these these reporters were almost stand ins for the millions of fans that he had in China millions of fans he had around Europe and Asia and everywhere else. who were sort of saying goodbye to him? I thought it was just a really touching moment. Captivate that kind of captured his impact on a lot of people. I mean love him or hate him. You know Kobe Bryant was the Kinda guy you love or hate it. He pulled emotions out of you. You there was not really any way for you to sit on the fence about him and he knew it and he leaned all the way into it And that's why he's you know perhaps APPs the most beloved La sports icon ever. And I think that's why at forty one years old. His death is so shocking in so stunning adding to people he had that personal connection in a way that very few athletes do. Yeah all that's really well said in Ben I mean my his last season was also so my first season actually covering a team. One specific team is a kind of like a beat writer. Hey what I mean Michael. Don't we judge it all in Kobe years in La 'cause you were in La there briefly so your your first year was Kobe's last year. Is that right. Yeah and so I can only speak to who who he was. During that one season it was from the most bizarre NBA season. I mean it was a hell of a way to cover a a basketball team. It was just you know from the Ngelo Russell Nick Young to just Roy. Hibbert Metta World Peace Lou Williams the characters in that locker room. Stop Right there Michael. Was it a basketball team or was this just the Kobe Bryant show because I remember it as being like Kobe Bryant and yes. He has teammates. But Not really. You know no it was all everything was catered to its Kobe that year. It's like come on like He. He didn't practice. There was still like no resentment from the teamates he made. Everybody knew what they signed up for that year. It was like should we develop the young guys. Now it's all about Kobe like his thirty seven years old is body's breaking down. It's all about Kobe. And and you know watching from afar I can understand why that was ludicrous but when you were there I remember like I think it was. It was In early January game against the sixers and this was the this was the process sixers so this was just. I can't even remember a single player who is on the floor for that team off. The top of on my head and staple center was sold out that night and it was like a Wednesday game like Co.. I don't know how many any points Kobe scored. But he did play and there were. MVP chance and there were Kobe chance and there was not an empty seat in the house and to contrast asked that with you know we just talked about John and his debut and how we were disappointed. PELICAN's fans for not showing up like at my respect level for Laker fans hands just went to a completely different area of the Galaxy when I attended that game and saw their love for him and what he meant to them and again I just want to go back and say like I can't I can't Look at Kobe from any other perspective than the season that I was up close with them And whenever you asked him a question and a post game press conference. I'm glad you brought up the the the multi lingual how he just went from one language to another as definitely as he did but another thing about him in those press conferences. That was so memorable to me. Any was every time you asked him a question not every time but at least for me he made you feel like you were it was just like you and him in the room and he was just speak he was he would stare straight into your soul answer the question with like such technical precision like it was just it was honestly a joy I learned so much that year ear from him just hearing him talk about basketball Waiting forty five minutes after games by his locker with just I mean you can't even imagine agean cameras the cameras that were there the you know. Everyone's bustling and and jostling to Kinda get a question and it was just like a sweaty sauna of postgame walk around like those those memories I will never ever forget. And that's the thing I mean. He was almost like this religious icon. His fans were devoted to him in a way that very few players kind of connect and I think the same deal kind of with the media. He was able to just put everybody under his spell and I think his critics despite CEO he was a little bit fake he was Hollywood. He was just manipulating everyone pulling the puppet strings but you go try to stand in his orbit ask ask him a question have him look deep into your soul. Understand that this guy knows more about basketball and has thought more Sort of heavy life topics then you probably we have and then he's going to explain it in very eloquent fashion and then you try not to be overwhelmed by that moment. I was right there with you. Michael I remember asking him a question about Alan Iverson complete throw wages softball type question Because Iverson was going into the hall of fame and this was that one of the all star weekends and Kobe went on for like four minutes. It's about a personal connections. Just telling all these stories and if I was supposed to be recording or or you know taking notes or whatever you can forget about it I was just staring deep into his eyes in like this is one of the greatest moments of my writing career and I think that you can talk to almost any NBA writer and they Who who spend time around him or ask some questions and they would have that exact same experience Michael? I want to ask you though because you're talking a lot about that final season. I believe I believe you were at his career finale. It was so funny because in the days leading up to that I was actually in that sports. Talk Radio position where it's like. I was in Portland and I had to choose to go. Watch the warriors win seventy three or do I go watch Kobe's final game and I basically had my pick sports illustrated with saying you know. Do whatever you WANNA I do and my reverence for Michael Jordan was so high and still list that I was like look. If someone's actually going to beat seventy two I need to be there. I need to to write this capping column to Salute Them. And you know bring back some of the Jordan memories in just witness it for myself. If we're seeing greatness on this level you know Michael I call myself. It's awful wind connoisseur right you know. I appreciate greatness I wanted to experienced personally. And wouldn't you know it. You know this moment that I thought was it's impossible to ever happen to seventy three wins never thought someone was going to beat the ninety six balls and wound up. Being the sub headline. This is the second biggest story of the day because Kobe overshadowed the greatest regular season of team of all time by scored sixty points odd fifty shots dropping. The microphone Just in sort of his entire career boil down to one night. I believe you made the Kobe choice. Rather than the warriors choice in my right I have the option but I did attend that game. Yes and I think honestly speaking like if I did have the option I would have. I would have chosen Kobe. Yeah I mean I boy. What a dummy? I was thirty seven but like you never like the whole season the emotion You know of basically that year but then also just all the other memories that you have koby they'll be leading into that final game. Nothing could have prepared you anyone for what he did. Sixty points fifty shots scored ten points in the last minute. Forty Five I. I actually re watched Large segments of that game this morning just because I think it's one of the most special things and people can criticize it for being inconsequential consequential and it was the seventeenth. Win of the season for the Lakers. So take that for what it is but it was. It was incredible. Like I don't care what anybody says I mean I I remember I remember so much about game but I was I was going back and re read my column from that night and I had this line in there It was A quote one on our before the opening tips staple center felt like a high school graduation blended with the prizefight inside the most exclusive church on the planet. And that's like what it was it was you looked to your right. There was snoop Dogg. You look to your left. There was Kanye you looked. There's Jay Z.. There's Kendrick Lamar. There's shack there's Derek Fisher. There's Lamar Odom like everyone. was there at every single time out. They played commemorative videos Of current players like Lebron Paul George and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving saying thank you to co be. It was just it was. Miraculously you know by the end. Down the stretch because the Lakers were down double digits for most of the game and cope. Who's just jacking up? Shots down the stretch I mean I remember just being overcome with emotion like A. My eyes were watering I couldn't I was so difficult to process what was happening It was the loudest arena. I've ever been in in my entire our life like when the Confetti was dropping just sitting there completely shook I couldn't move like it was it was such a scene and all real quick. All this is for the son of Bob cousy. I mean listen. Growing it's expanding these tearing up at staple center watching Kobe do his thing. Look Mike all say this by rule if you quote yourself on this podcast you're opening yourself up to a lot of potential jokes and wisecracks for me but that line you just put out. There was beautiful. I mean they had summarized it and the reason why I know it was beautiful is because I got goosebumps and I got jealous and started hating myself for not going to that so very well done. Thank you and But I just want to say like the game was amazing of course but like it was the pre-game and it was the post game. That was so so special like after it ends. He grabs the microphone. He thanks His teammates thanks Laker fans. He thanks Vanessa. His wife and and he does the infamous famous Mamba out kisses his fingertips drops the Mike and then the post game press conference you know normally at Staples Center there is a specific room for Post game in pre-game press conferences. And for this when they opened up this other segment of the arena. That is normally reserved for You know like an NBA finals game to accommodate all the media and it's like this giant cavernous room and it was packed with media members. and Kobe's presser was like about. I WANNA say like a half hour long and it felt like it would never end and when it finally did You know I was looking around. In several media members were standing and clapping which is like the Cardinal Sin of sports journalism. And in that moment I thought they were foolish and looking back. It's like almost jealous that I didn't do the same thing it's a it was just such a powerful powerful moment and our top of that people were angry they to get photos with him afterwards. Right I've seen some photos of longtime journalists going to hug him in basically salute him and say thank you for everything again very unusual but also in in out moment understandable. You mentioned how the Lakers only won seventeen games that year. I think for us as writers though I mean they went undefeated. Colby Obi after those games was just on fire all season law and the game was not on the court. The game was in those press this conferences where he is just dropping knowledge and wisdom and basically like test driving some of his theories that was gonNA wind up becoming his post career life right. You know the animation stories stories and inspirational books and the deer basketball note. It was like hey. He knew that maybe he was on his last legs on the court but from creativity standpoint he was just getting started. Did so as like I'm GONNA use these fifteen to twenty minute long. Press conferences after I shoot four for nineteen to just see what kind of a storyteller I really can be and you know like I said earlier. We were all eating it up now. Michael I said earlier. Maybe that all star weekend scene was my favorite Koby memory but the more I was thinking about it i. I do think that there's a strong contender. Maybe that was my favorite memory for his career. But last month Kobe Bryant braci on the to the Lakers vs Mavericks Game In late December at Staples Center. They sat courtside. And anytime Kobe's in the building you know. Since what's his retirement he gets the biggest OV- actions there there is right. I mean he is he is way more beloved and Lebron James. The crowd standing ovation. Anytime he's shown on the Jumbotron traumas just sort of this kind of right passage with Kobe. He was there with his daughter and I was very curious to to just get a sense for her because she's almost become this mythic. Like many Mamba. You know the Mamba. Sita where you know Lebron's talking about how she could grow up to be this. WNBA STAR and Kobe's he's invested so much time in in coaching her and You know setting up these tournaments and everything else and it was a similar personal final exploration for me when I did this story about Brawny James. Because you get these second and I think in her case third-generation basketball stars and they have everything everything at their disposal right. I mean all the privilege all the money all the wealth all the power all the connections that could potentially alter your personality audie. When you're a young kid are available to you? So what does that look like in a thirteen year old Young Woman and the sheer joy She had the smile on her face the fact that she was just almost overwhelmed to meet Luca Danni into posed for a photo with him and of course Kobe. Kobe step back and was the proud down. Wanted to take the photo with the two of them standing side-by-side it was remarkable from from Kobe as a father. But it was also just very telling to me of Yana as a young aspiring basketball player. You could tell there was nowhere on the globe. She would rather be than meeting. Luca Danni in that moment right. And I kept thinking and a Luca's only like six years older than her right. I mean it's it's crazy to even think about that but You know it was almost like she was looking towards him. We're looking towards some of these. NBA players players. Maybe like Kobe look towards Michael Jordan. When he was her age you know and you could just see the generational things playing out and she was so at ease And and had such a wide captivating smile. She was her father's daughter. I mean there's no question about it and you watch some of the highlights of her playing you. You can see some of his tendencies. I know people doing the side by side photos of of each of them biting their jerseys but it did remind me a lot of of brawny. You know it's like I I don't understand how these kids are so normal and so good Given the circumstances that they were brought up there's every opportunity for the for their personalities to kind of go. Oh you know one direction or the other and yet to me in that moment. She struck me as Exactly what I had hoped for. You know somebody who just lived breathed basketball and you know Michaelides. We're starting to talk about the right way is to honor Kobe. It's a complicated question Because it's so shocking. It's so stunning. There aren't a lot of precedents here. and certainly from the Lakers organization. I mean this is going to be something that hangs over the rest of their season. I mean this has been an absolute joy. Reid for the Lakers all year. There's no doubt they're going to devote you know this title. Oh push to him but you could see it with Lebron James's tears coming off the plane yesterday. This is going to hit them very very very hard at all levels of the organization on top of that he was supposed to go into the hall of fame this summer. The hall of fame induction is not going to be the same without him right even all star weekend coming up to me to a certain degree there's going to be Kind of tragic feeling hanging over what is usually a very festive. Event is just not going to be the same and I guess I'm already sort of emotionally bracing for that but I'm also trying to spin it forward in a way and here's my idea. Michael Tell me what you think outside of staple center as you know in a lot of our listeners. Know there's a lot of statues you guys Shaquille O'Neal dunking you've got criminal Dole Jabbar the bar with the skyhook. You've got magic leading the fast break. You've got Jerry West in the logo driving motion. Kobe obviously is going to get a statue you but I think that the best way to do this. If I was the Lakers I would put both Kobe Anjana in the statue. I would make it like the bean and gee-gee statue you and maybe they're sitting courtside and they're smiling watching the game and maybe there are some empty chairs next to them so fans can go sit down next them and maybe feel part of it but I think that had the defining characteristic of Kobe Bryant as a person as a player was his devotion to the game and you can see that and all sorts of different things the Achilles response the final night of his career the five titles even in some of the negative things like you know his split with Shaquille. O'Neal I mean he was just absolutely Louis. Devoted single-minded his view a basketball and he was unrelenting but I think his devotion to the sport came through most purely in his relationship with his daughter and I. I think that's the way that's the best way that I can think of to honor his memory. That's beautiful I couldn't agree any more And it's really I mean it. Just it shows a lot of his his growth over the years and You know this is someone who who else teammates Was a bit of a loner for the early parts of his career. Didn't have a lot of friends and One of his great legacies is is spreading the love of the game to his daughter and to countless others and that is to teach and to encourage. And so I think that would be really beautiful And I second everything that you said about. Just you know how the layers of this tragedy and how it'll hang overhead for I mean the rest of this season share but I I mean beyond that I I think I think they just have no comparison to how tragic this Michael let's Dig in a little bit just days. Yesterday I'm still here in New Orleans I I was preparing to watch my`son Williamson go against your Boston Celtics in an open floor head to head duel. When I heard the news and I had it just gotten back from a beautiful nature walk in the swamp I try to take a boat to or yesterday morning but got rained out? So I'm just kind of you know putzing around my hotel room When I start to see the you know the initial report and working to confirm it and you know going through all those journalistic layers putting together a story get down to the arena trying to find just the initial initial reactions from people I mean the arena especially among the team? Staffers and the media remembers was basically a wake or funeral. I mean that'd be the only thing that I could compare it to. I saw people crying for sure openly. you know players. We're having a hard time you know kind of forming complete sentences or You know fighting through tears as they talk. Same thing with Alvin gentry entry was doing his best to remain composed and Certainly he made a comment that you know there's basketball and then there's real life and this is real life I thought Brad Stevens tributes to Kobe were great. He mentioned how you know. His high school best friend had been recruited by Kobe's dads so we got a chance nice to see Kobe. Bryant play in an open gym at sixteen and his best friend came back and told Brad is the best sixteen year old play. I've ever seen in my entire life and that's pretty much out worked out. He also said that you know Celtics players and Celtics. Staffers were kind of surreptitiously trying to get Kobe. Bryant's autograph You know during his retirement mature You know the the last time through Boston which I thought you know coming from Boston. And that's like the ultimate respect right So you had everyone struggling ogling to sort of put this moment to words to go through the motions of playing a game And that was something that we saw around the league whether it was trae young wearing Kobe. Bryant's Jersey number and scoring forty five points Damian Lillard going offer the Portland Trailblazers named both. Those guys have always pointed to Kobe as kind of major influences or You know guys that they look up to throughout their career But I was just in a state of fog and to be honest the fog has lifted. I mean it's been a very very difficult. Twenty four hour period. I'm curious Michael. What was your day like yesterday And how you doing how you hold up. Yeah Yeah So yesterday there was a knicks nets game in New York where I live and I normally don't attend those just because because You know I mostly cover. Whoever is in town so I get to see for reporting reasons? I get to see the The Nets and the Knicks. Basically anytime I want so I usually sit those out and just kind of watch the NBA from my couch and there was a lot of action last night. So that was my plan and then when I got the news as a as I got a text from a friend of mine. Who's like did you hear about Kobe? And the first thing I thought of was the Kobe was going to come back to play for the Lakers. That's like before I went on twitter. That's like because this person texting me about Kobe. Not a normal thing so I knew it was a big deal and that's what I anticipated when I opened up twitter and then I saw the TMZ report. And like I was this. I was gutted in a way that I was not anticipating at all and I did not go to the game because I just could not be around other people people and so like you. I'm still processing this. It's still. It's still stunning. I was at the gym this morning. And watching highlights from Last night's action. And you know I'm on the treadmill and I see the trae young half court shot that goes in and it's like I'm almost getting choked up on the treadmill it's like it's It's just so much to try to process and you know. I think that some players yesterday they did not want to play. And you know one marcus. Morris was like why we should not have played the game. Some other people made statements about how all the A game should be cancelled. And I I I I agree with that. I think I see the the business aspect of it and you can't just tell fans Who have already showed up to an arena paid for tickets that the game has cancelled? I understand that and you know what we also were blessed with was the the commemorations the as you said the trae young wearing number eight You had the twenty four second shot clock violations and the eight eight second Half court backward violation brilliant by the way I mean just strokes of genius. Whoever came up with those I mean as a basketball guy? I did not even think of that. I didn't even conceive of it and to me that was. I mean that would hit hard. When when I heard saw that they were doing that out? That one blew my mind. That was just beautiful. So if you don't play the Games you don't get something like that and I I hear what you're saying though. I mean it was very very difficult position for the lead to be in especially from the timing standpoint because it's not like they add five hours before the tip off right there. Were these rolling tip-offs on Sunday where some early games and so you can't wanted you cancel all. Is it a case. By case you let the players decide what do you do ultimately I think your approach of staying away and I believe Kyrie Irving did the same thing too right and he leave the arena. Yes I mean to me and I made this point about Kyrie. At the beginning of the season I mean I think that that is an incredibly mature response. If you're dealing with grief if you need time and space rather than going through the motions rather than putting yourself on television where you know you're feeling sick to your stomach or nauseous or just like you don't feel like you should be there. I think that I kind of Tim. I had to carry. And he's in a unique situation because he's a superstar so he can sort sort of do what he wants to do but I hope he's not getting any criticism for that and I think that he actually sent a pretty good message without one. You know if you guys are struggling with tough news like like this whether it's about Kobe Bryant or someone in your family in you need time and space to get through it take it you know and hopefully your employer in in your company will support you on that Grief is just one of those things that gets to you in different ways and I can come in waves. You know it can. It can come and just Kinda stab your real quick nick Unpredictable can change your personality. Change your mood and it's so important to You know self reflect. I guess at that time and for he went through that with his grandfather last year he was very open about the impacts. And I think You know he said a really good example there from the League's perspective. I don't personally have a problem with the fact that they've played those games But I will be curious to just read the reporting here as it comes is out. How was the decision made Where people given the options or anything like that because some teams that took the court just didn't want to be there you know and they said that and they look that way and you know they'll never remember what happened on those courts because they were in a Fox sort of like the rest of us? Yeah one hundred percent I mean regardless regardless of. There's almost nothing. There is nothing that could have happened on the basketball court yesterday. That would ever be remembered beyond commemorating the death of Kobe and the tragic loss of life. Eight others hey. I'm Andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company. He called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience. I had buying razor blades. 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I mean I look certain players you know. Certainly Jordan certainly Bill Russell for me the Magic Johnson. you know would be above Kobe. I think Tim Duncan would be above Koby for sure. I think Shaquille O'Neal Might Uneven be above Kobe And you can go on with other players may be Kema Lajoie on some people would argue will chamberlain cream up dolch bar. I guess I'm curious when you're looking back with what we've described as kind of his major transition kind of going from hating the guy to sort of respecting the guy I to being moved by the guy to grieving his death. I mean what is his legacy. Do you think when we're talking about best players ever or when we're talking about kind of I've icons within basketball. Yeah I mean. That's a tough one. I just I remember just for so long Arguing doing about arguing with people who worshiped Koby Bryant who thought he was Either the best player in the world at any given time or deserving of the MVP or better than Lebron or whatever it may be. And I don't no not like the just like those things seem so Fruitless right now and you know if I tansel your question like yeah I agree with you with basically everything you just said. I think he's one of the fifteen best players who ever lived and I think he'll be remembered numbered for a lot more good and bad That he did on and off the floor and It's just a really complicated. Aided legacy that he leaves behind in so many different ways. There's a lot of good. There's a lot of bad and And on the court he was peerless in a lot of different ways that you can't really. I honestly think that if you are a player who is trying nine two he was either in the NBA or trying to get to the NBA You kind of view. Kobe in a different way than everybody else is just kind of on the sidelines. Watching the game name and so there's no question. Look I mean he might be top fifteen guys who was outsiders but I think among his peers right he is top five and he he might not be free you might not even he might not be four or five right. I mean I think he's right up there. Let me. Was the office Alpha the players player. I mean I think so. Many professional athletes view themselves in the same vein as a Kobe. Bryant right they want to be seen as clutch. They want to be seen as reliable. They want to be seen as sort sort of doing whatever it takes to win And I think even high level all star athletes would look at Kobe. And be like at this guy is different. He's willing to go farther and push his body further than I am like. He's he's he's just a maniac he's got a maniacal worth work ethic. That even stands is out compared to his contemporaries and so I do think he's going to be remembered a little bit differently within a player circles. Maybe then sort of outside outside circles. You're right to touch on the highs and lows of his career. I mean we can't take this podcast without mentioning the Colorado incident The sexual assault allegations allegations and in the suit civil suit settlement. That came out of that When you look back on that chapter of his career I do you think a lot of writers especially if you have spent time with him felt like that was almost like a turning point or maybe the turning point of his career where it's like? He realized he was no longer going going to be like Mike. This perfectly pristine hero figure and now he was going to need to embrace almost villain side of things Or the more polarizing polarizing side of things and just lean harder to like the Black Mamba mentality of. I'm this ruthless guy. Who's just going to stop at nothing to To win titles. And when you score points and and everything else I mean is is that how you view That chapter or do you look at it differently. I I suppose so uh-huh it's obviously a very dark time and there's a victim involved and it's really difficult to talk about and it's it's really difficult to have this entire conversation In the wake of such a tragic event glorifying someone who who was alleged to to do something like that? So I do think that post Colorado Colorado Kobe was definitely Leaning into the Not Not really caring at all what anyone thought about him. I think was the big takeaway from just those years. Afterwards when he was just so antagonizing and Phil Jackson writes about this in several books. I mean he successfully trolled even the Zen master right who arguably is one of the greatest trolls in NBA history and it was like He. He outflanked Zen master. And the troll. Game any yeah exactly. So I mean Phil Jackson basically said he was was uncomfortable during that season and didn't have a lot of good things to say about him so it's it's really difficult to process in the entirety of who he was and his entire life and the steps that he made he does a father afterwards. And I don't like it's just really difficult to judge. You know it's just really difficult. Yeah part of it is because we don't know the full story right Part of it is. We don't know all the details and It is a part of his legacy that is not going away and I think it's a part of his professional career. That cost him an awful lot of fans. Endorsement deals and everything else and I think for some Kobe. Bryant fans fans who would hope the Dow which is not mentioned here You know upon the sudden tragic and just kind of horrifying that he passed You know I think that's that's it's not quite right. I do think it needs to be discussed. It needs to be included in this conversation. Michael My last thought on all this as I was struggling to find sort of historical stoorikhel comparisons you know because I think people. Maybe we're going to like Princess di or Michael Jackson or or comparison points like that for Kobe when I was thinking talking about kind of sports The sports context the name that came to mind for me. Was Roberto Clemente and I just remember growing up as a kid. I used to read a bunch baseball books when I was a little kid. And he was kind of painted like the saint like figure. I mean here he is doing all this Puerto Rican sensation baseball player. Doing all this good work donating time and money to Central America and and You know other Third World countries have tried to improve those communities and he dies. I believe at thirty eight years old always remembered he had exactly three thousand hits. I think he was something like a fifteen time all star. Maybe an Koby obviously was in eighteen time. all-star they're similar ages when they passed Clemente dies in a plane crash. Kobe dies in a helicopter helicopter crash to me. I think that's the best Comparison point that we really have. I mean Major League Baseball wound up renaming it. Citizenship unshipped award. I think after him they inducted him into the hall of fame Essentially immediately and his spirit and kind of memory lived lived on for years and years and years and to this day. Really I mean I think most people have a certain image. If they've heard of Roberto Clemente they know what The name means something to them and I do think as we've just discussed you know. Kobe story is more complicated than that. You know I think that usually time. We'll sort sort of You know beef. Favorable to famous people and it will remember their best moments and maybe tend to forget or downplay their worst moments. So I'm not going to say. Hey that you know. Kobe is going to be remembered by everyone as a saint on that same level with Clemente. But I do think that that is the natural comparison comparison point here and growing up just trying to you know I was a little kid just trying to wrap my mind around the idea that you know such a baseball talent who could have been part of the sport for another thirty or forty years in some capacity whether it's managing her as an executive or scout. Or you know maybe that the head of a baseball federation I I country or whatever else The idea that that was cut short so early just really blew my mind and I feel the same way about Kobe. I mean this was supposed to be a guy who shows up and sits courtside SORTA like Bill Russell or Kareem or a Michael Jordan for decades to come And you know if nothing nothing else we knew that he was going to have his fingerprints and NTSB around ask ball because he was such a mythic and I- conic figure and that's just not going to happen and to me that's the the hardest the hardest part of this process. Yeah the most painful element of death is what could have been in a lot of instances and Roberto Clementes are really good parallel. Well I was when I was in the second grade. My First Little League team was the Pittsburgh Pirates and I knew very little about baseball at the time and So I did a little bit of research and tried to find the best Pittsburgh pirate was who ever lived and it was Roberto Clemente and so oh for a school project Later that year we had to dress up as a historical figure basically and I just wore my baseball uniform. Perform so your school. You've got a bunch of Thomas Jefferson's George Washington's and then Roberto Clemente Pena showed up. Basically that is this beautiful. Michael you live such a fascinating life. Whether it was Roberto Clemente or Dennis Rodman. I guess you hit your teen years. Then you went to the Rodman side of things exactly. Yeah it's two in the same really. Yeah so look. That's a beautiful. I think we should end it on that. I mean everyone can just take away this beautiful picture of Michael in his Pittsburgh pirates uniform celebrating the life of Roberto Clemente. And let's be honest. You know there's going to be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of young kids out there putting on the number eight point on the number twenty four and even Zahn Williamson last night said that he had both jerseys when he was a kid. You know in some ways Kobe's legacy is just getting started and that's wild to think about because we've known him in the public eye since he was a teenager taking brandy to prom and making the cover of sports illustrated high school American. And everything else. Michael Michael. Thanks so much for sharing memories walking us through your day yesterday And you know some of those great personal experiences that you described e-mailers. I know Oh Kobe Bryant connected with you one way or the other. Let us know. Open floor male edgy. MILL DOT COM open floor male edgy dot com. We'll pick up regularly scheduled programing Later this week I will be back in Los Angeles. The Lakers will play the clippers on Tuesday Certainly that will provide plenty to discuss thus when we get back and Michael I look forward to talking to you about all that Later this week for now you guys can go to apple podcasts and search for open floor. That's that's two words. 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Remembering Kobe Bryant

The Free Agents

29:00 min | 8 months ago

Remembering Kobe Bryant

"Well we have our emergency podcasts. For the worst possible reason Late Sunday night. We just got into the Knicks studio hair. I'm sure I'll you know Kobe. Bryant died in a helicopter crash today with this thirteen year. Old Daughter Order. Jonah also killed nine people total in the helicopter Crazy but you know. We've obviously had all Sunday afternoon. I'm sure you guys were watching. TV and seeing the you know the guys colleagues still with task of course former colleagues and those guys trying to wrap their head around this which is honestly is. It's it's doesn't feel real. I think that's fair to say you don't want it to be real of of course But now that we've had a little bit of time here throughout the day. Whoa what what are you even say to this? I don't know I. He was looking to with stunned silence at my fine just sort of refreshing because I saw come through. TM xenia thought. This doesn't feel right but it's coming from they. They legit account. And so you thinking like this is you sometimes see the celebrity deaths that a hoax is for whatever reason and just kind of thought that was gonNA eventually come mount someone saying this is a crazy stupid report. Nah that never happened In fact just went the other way more and more reputable sources kept reporting it and Very tough just to. It was stunning. It was stunning. There's only been a few moments. I think in life with something like that's happened. Michael Jackson dying. Probably the last time where it was. Just something you just couldn't even though people were saying it you hearing it you're reading it just didn't feel like it was actually happening while he's he's obviously He's larger than Life Right A. He's one of those few guys in the NBA that like impacts not only basketball football players but just the world at large like we got an email just now saying that I named my child. Kobe Bryant Obviously you guys on the floor. who had to play on Sunday or were thinking about the guy who is there Michael Jordan really? And that's you know after J it really. Okay was Kobe's era You know you can throw another couple of names in there but Kobe is the guy that impacted the the basketball world he impacted acted like there's guys like Neymar giving tribute to him today. Only a few days ago Novak Djokovic You know before he passed away was talking about what he was to to him and And to fans out there like he is he is like you bring Michael Jackson. Lee People are bringing up. You Know Princeton Princeton and to that effect and You know we were lucky. Enough to to be in the same auditorium is him and got got to interview him and how people were like chasing him and screaming and yelling and One woman yelling. Kobe touched me and That like he he had that sort of impact And he's just he I mean there's there's just not many people in the world like that and And he's just you you know we can. We can go on and on. I think about him off the floor. And and and this poor family. Obviously yeah. I've just been sick to my stomach mechanically. Since I saw the tweets coming across. I was like leave. Just seemed unbelievable that it had happened and then slowly but surely more and more details are trickling out and reports reports are being confirmed and then suddenly the Games are starting and you're seeing tributes all around the NBA. It's like you can't get away from Kobe was such a huge part of the NBA. Even having been retired for what four years basically you can already see the elder statesman role. He had taken on the what he meant to the players that are currently in league. Some of the guys obviously played against them. Since it was recently the Kobe was still a player and others like trae. Young are obviously very close to Kobe. taking the court wearing his uniform. They have He's even trae. Young has had a bond with Kobe daughter who was on the helicopter as well. And it's just it's just very sad added it makes you really realise how quickly life can be gone and how important it is to enjoy being with the people you're with when you're with them. Yeah I mean look it. It's it is it is crazy to me. I keep going up Kobe. Bryant's dead and then and then I go. Oh my God. His daughter was in the as it was in the helicopter to. It's it's the double punch to the Gut. Yeah I was. I was flying back today from New York and so I I wasn't maybe living in the moment with the whole twitter trying to figure it out. Is this real or not awesome when I land of course the phone just goes blue like you know. It wasn't just me to. Of course this guy beside me and the person in front of me you could tell everyone's like what what what is this and everybody's like is this real and everybody's trying to figure it out and it was like I've been sleeping so I felt like a dream a bad dream nightmare And then yeah trying to wrap your head around all day it's It's it shocking. It is and you said like trae young. We're number eight. The mavs just recently say they're going to retire retire number twenty four. Nobody Ever GonNa wear number twenty four for the mavs. I think I think the rest of the League is going to do that. I would be shocked actually if the NBA doesn't do that all the teams. Maybe not but it sucks to that you know he was. He was doing for the hall fame. I mean we're not we're Koby speech and the fact that just last night he was in the news to with Lebron this whole thing I would take him. Yeah like like there was so much talk. And and and Kobe's last tweet was basically signed a Lebron handing are handing over the next generation to you. And that's the thing about Kobe. Laker legend spent twenty years. There one everything you know not always like great times with the Lakers. He had his mind and say it. But in the end he persisted and he stayed with the franchise. And and you know when it was all said and done no-one spent more time at the Lakers than heated. And you know his his legacy is interesting because when when you look at the number right that he wore and then the number twenty four that he wore when they broke down the stats of what he achieved in both numbers. It was incredible. Just how identical at all was and and It's just shocking that he's not going to be around the game anymore because I loved seeing him as as a committed dad his daughters all of his daughters he was there practicing practicing and playing and trying to teach moves and coaching. And and you remember. He was disappointed when he's when he's daughters. Team finished sixth. Because you can just you can tell that he you know. Some people took that the wrong way but Kobe was trying to install that work ethic into his daughter. This young age and and I think that's the one thing that's consistent whether you liked. Kobe didn't like him. I think everybody in any sport sport respected he's worked with he was so determined to be the best and that's what a lot of people say. Kobe just worked and worked and worked. And it didn't matter what sport if you if you want it to be at his level. You hit the gym. You work hard and you have that determination. And I think that's why he did. Connect with so many athletes from around the world is the guy that everybody is chasing. Everybody's trying to be like he goes into the two thousand eight Olympic team and guys like Lebron and Wade and Chris Bosh and mellow we are watching Kobe. Just outworking everybody there. Despite the fact that at this time he's already got championships. He's already got an. MVP that kind of stuff and you can see from that moment forward Koby just became even more respected around the League as the guy who is the hardest worker basically since Michael Jordan. This generation's Michael Jordan like you're saying task and defining employer for the generation of guys that are in the League now because they were all trying to be as good as colby was and you know you might not think. Kobe was the greatest in the league at the time but he was still up there. A guy you at least had to bypass to become the greatest in the league. And I don't know I seeing him as dad I think is probably the best Kobe there was to see the advocacy. He had for the women's game how much he just loved getting to tutor his daughter and talk about his daughter and how much she loves playing basketball. That's something that but I relate to a lot and it's something that it's pretty sad that coby got four years of being a full-time dead. It is Rosett He navigated gated that that transition from being a professional athlete to to being a his post playing career which obviously included a lot of fatherhood. Extremely well you know from the outside looking in I. I can't imagine how hard that is because you know. I never competed at that level. I know we're just watching athletes. It doesn't go very well. He was somehow able to channel that that crazy crazy easy competitive edge competitive level that he had into being an incredible dad and And you mentioned about being supporting the WNBA and women's College basketball more. I I love that Jimmy Kimmel Clip That's going around. It's phenomenal about a Jonah. And how she wanted to take over the women's game and how special that is I want to play in the WNBA. She does for sure she the this kid man happy great man. The best thing that has to go out and and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and it'd be like you gotTa have a boy you gotTa have a boy. Somebody carry on the tradition the legacy just like. Oh I got this doc got this I know I hug my daughter. Pretty frigging hard today and I'm sure a lot of people are too because it just reaches so many people and and he attacked not not only did he. Transition transition want to being a father and like from you know from the social media world who the heck knows what's really happening with Kobe Bryant but that's all they posted about and and and not only did he attacked that'd be attacked his his his dreams and his wishes of of being a producer and and writing children's books and giving a crap about would he gave the crap about and really working at it. And so the work ethic like just transitioned from twenty years of being a basketball player to really being and I think they're the competitive edge kind of it kind of faded away in a in the basketball world like he wasn't. He didn't talk trash on twitter anymore but he he's just big up to everybody. He was so encouraging to everybody. You are going to be the MVP to Yannis and to everybody just so much support and and obviously players looked up to him in a major way and he was able to really to navigate that really well and still attack life and and like as former president. Barack Obama tweeted. He was legit on the court. Just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second act and as from from a very special person was a very special words because who the heck knows like you said. It's true three and a half years since he retired and he was able to accomplish a lot went an Oscar and and right kids books and and really attack life with what he wanted to do. He told how he wanted to be more than a basketball player when he retired. And a lot of guys say that but they don't sort of take on something else but Kobe did in these things. You're talking about here with the with the Oscar like he actually really tried his best and he put him put himself in a position to to back up his words like that and it would have been so easy for him to take a cushy Media Media Job coaching role somewhere. You know. He didn't need the money but he needed that stimulation. That basketball wasn't going to be able to give him any more and he wanted to try something something else ad in a in a different field and just had incredible success with it and you know he Again when you when you see transition into dead Kobe. That's something that you know. Some of us can relate to where you see like he you know he had some struggles as a deadlock. All of us through where it's like you know sleepless nights and and kids drive you crazy. But he was always there and determined to make sure because he missed out on much being a player that he wanted to not miss at anymore now that he was no longer. You know the guy who was committed to playing basketball for a living. Am I going too far saying like when you got the tax the tweet it felt like someone in your own family. Take your immediate reaction to it. Did to me and I don't know that that's just because of what the nature of what we've done we've made a basketball show for what near in fifteen years now. So he's an entire basically entire career. We've been watching his fans and then before and did the spiralling into the show. It's like you know we don't have a real connection with them. We did the video with them. And All all star weekend. You're right task. I was so much fun. Hawk hilarious task trying to get Kobe. Do apologized for scoring eighty-one against the Raptors But you know we didn't like we. We're talking to Kobe him on the show all the time stuff like that. But he's just because he's the one word guy it's always talking about him and and we talked go on forever to like. I talked about Kobe. Bryant in middle school with my friends I talked about him in college with that set of friends. I've talked about a lot with you. You guys since then. I had group texts this past week about. WHO's the greatest of all time? Michael Kobi or Lebron your. We'll never stop talking about Kobe. Bryant but we've been talking about him he's been part of our lives for twenty five years. Yeah definitely hits hard. I remember when he was first drafted and he came into the League. And I'd heard about these young guy out of high school athletic. I Don. His Dad used to play. This is ran ninety. Six Ninety seven so basketball at that point still wasn't mainstream Australia so you you know you saw clips on the news or wherever. I'M GONNA think. Geez pretty pretty athletic. This guy is like he he sort of looks like Jordan young Jordan there but you know a lot of guys can do that in the first couple of years. Will this guy be able to live up to it. And then it wasn't until the finals in two thousand against the Pacers were actually sore on that on the big stage him step up and he was only twenty twenty one then maybe twenty two but he like all of a sudden. This guy already is delivering the clock in the playoffs in the finals. On the road for the Lakers. Like we might actually have the next Jordan and had the Kufra. We looked cool. He was big he had he could throw down those dunks. He could hit the big shots but he also seemed to have that like. I'm way better than everyone else on the court. You know he had that swag and which I that something like that or like all today you heard every talking head saying the number one thing is like the competitive nature right. You just worked harder. This always blows my mind. And it's like all these guys in the NBA to make it to that level. They are working everybody else to get to that level but even at the most elite level of professional basketball there's another level level for the very few that these guys who've worked. Trust me harder than anyone you know to make it there in the first place or even going like. WHOA no? That's different. That's crazy crazy to me when you think about it. It's one thing for us to be like that's crazy but like they're they're they're and tasks point that's why he's been able was able to succeed away from basketball immediately as well to the just the drive to be the best at what he was doing. I saw a tweet from Jeff starts. WHO RUNS IN STREET CLOTHES ABOUT OUT? it's like an injury database. He was talking about an article. Brad for Baxter homes with doing on Cobain who say I WANNA I wanNA double check these injuries here. I got forty one. Sounds like a lot over twenty career to miss. Time for forty-one injuries the real number one hundred and forty one. Kobe played through one hundred and forty-one injuries while he was playing in the NBA. That's like insane. The guy took free throws with a torn Achilles. pinching it together so it wouldn't fall apart so you could actually walk off the court. The desire to be great and the desire to be mentioned ginned amongst the greatest of all time is insane for Kobe. And that's why we talk about him so much. Yeah and hopefully his legacy will be the Not Not just basketball. But I think he was. He was on his way to really affecting The women's game because he was Like as Rebecca Lobo tweeted today. Rebecca Lobo said No. NBA Player supported Wnba or women's college basketball more than Kobe attended games watched on TV coach next generation. We pray for his family family and I think he would have swung like whether you know John would have been a WNBA player. I think he would have swung it to to even bigger heights. I think that would have just been part of his legacy and hopefully it continues that way other legacy other than his three children which obviously will be a a huge part of it. I I just think that he he wasn't done and that's the sad thing like there was a lot more to be had other than his plan career. And that's that's uh-huh yeah I mean I saw a lot of people tweeting. This idea. Chris Mannix is one of them. You know I wonder what they will do it all star weekend right around the corner in Chicago. I think Chris says team Lebron. Maybe they're all wearing number eights and team is all wear number twenty four. That's that seems like a no brainer to do something like that You know a lot of people love that idea but yeah I I keep coming back like. We're not gonNA get the Kobe Hall of fame speech. We're not gonNA see the statue. The Kobe statue was him. When valiente install like those things like you put all that work for the twenty years and then it's like just taken from you like that in the helicopter crash? Yeah it's it's it's one of those moments where you try to find the right words but it doesn't seem that they're out there really you know it's just it's a feeling and it's an emotion than and It's you know we're GONNA go to bed tonight. Wake up in the morning and heart that this is not real and I It's funny remember Ten years ago I was just started working at the score and I was building a World Cup feature on the soccer World Cup and I was trying to get any stop. Plaza could the Lakers are in town in Toronto. So obviously everyone's trying to get Kobe Bryant and eat any didn't do any media before the game. After the game the Lakers lost but two points cubby. Cubby missed the game winner. That would a three point of the given the game and he missed that and In the scrum afterwards. Obviously everyone's just waiting for Kobe and he talked about it talked about the game he wasn't he wasn't Dannon. atty answered the questions. Yeah missed the shot or whatever Blah Blah Blah and afterwards. I was just standing there with the mark with the cameraman. And I'm like well. This says mom shot. This is my shot. Koby is right here if I want to try to get him. It's going to be right now and I just said. Excuse me Kobe. Something like that and I said I'm doing a feature on the World Cup of news time in Italy. Can I just ask you goes like Yeah Sherman and so Ryan Stratton was the camry. Get that Cameron right now. Right now and I just blurted leading out like five crazy questions to anything Bailey on the payroll at the school wasn't really sure you're not supposed to the Kobe. Great athlete did you ever try soccer. And he's like tried to be and then I said I was talking about Italy. I said what immediately edited. They got a chance he said Yeah. They're they're chance yet. But I'm going for America of course and then I said give me a score in Italian for the final. What does that mean said like USA neo was five nil and thanksgiving? I came home to to Roxana and I just like walked in the door. I said I can't believe I just got Kobe. I got him I got him. I have no idea has going to turn out. It's blurred some crazy. He stuff at him but he answered it and it was probably only ninety seconds but to me it was just like Oh my God i hit the Jackpot and At fortunately similar similar with us when we got him at all star weekend early days that Phoenix. Now there's two thousand ten Dallas Dallas. Yeah we're lucky to get him and a and very much likely I mean he. Kobe was extremely gracious but he had a young task smells yelling. I mean I was yelling yelling because it was extremely loud in that room but also because he had literally hundreds of screaming fans yelling at him. So even though I had a microphone in my hand and and it's supposed to take in your voice and amplify it. I yelled as loud as I could because I thought Kobe couldn't hear me. He was gracious basis. He was very very gracious. He was he was calm and handled my stupid questions. Not The Russians are stupid and dumb questions for sure. He handled them very well. I'm surprised he could hear what I was saying. I just nervous so sweaty. There was little it was February or January. It was freezing in Toronto. I was perspiring heavily in the locker room and I said this recently I think here on the podcast which is another reason. This is so weird. It's like when we started the show back in two thousand six. Fix You know. Mid January will the Kobe goes for eighty one against the raptors. Like a few days later I mean it was probably like the second thin show. We then we're talking about uh-huh percent right which is sort of just surreal Yeah no IT'S A it's a it's it sucks has no other way to put it. It's so sat is just damned. Damned depressing is what it is do you have. I mean just because we're like I like this. I'm glad we're doing this because talking to note and I don't I hope people are digging this as well but do you have a favorite Kobe like game or moment or like what will you when you. Somebody says Kobe ten years twenty years from now. Where will the angle right away? The first Kobe thing that I ever liked was the two thousand six playoffs against the sun's where he's part of the huge steel on Steve Nash. Half Courtney gums down and he hits the game tying shot with point seven left in regulation and it's like a floater. That somehow goes off the glass. Despite the fact that he's on the baseline I was like I don't know how all somebody makes. That shot let alone makes that shot at that moment of the game in the playoffs to send it to overtime like the touch. Just the fact that he had every single shot in the bag was amazing and onset over time wins the jump ball dribbles straight to spot straight to the Right Elbow pops. The game winning jumper from the free throw line pulled the jerseys of the side. This this was in eight days. And that's when I was like Koby's undeniable. He is undeniably great right now. Hey that's like a movie is exactly ran. It's quite like ushering assuring him. Yeah come right to your spot. Hit this perfect shot and make sure you hit your mark. You'RE GONNA WANNA be right on that ex- We got the shot set up for you right here and he just drains. It was awesome. Yeah that could be. You could statue. I think for him standing on the there's the classic on the thing with arms out Scott it definitely the jaw lower jaw out. I think A game or a moment. Well it's game. Four from two thousand finals against the paces shack fails adcose to overtime and Kobe hit three baskets in overtime in the last one is like a put backwards so it comes from underneath the backboard and sort of tipped it over his head. And then you're seeing being run over to the Lakers benches the pace call a timeout. and Kobe's got the Zaragoza Dan I got this. I got this again. Is Like this guy's twenty one and he's and he's composed already and they went three one up in the series and that was their first championship and Again a bit like like brought trailer saying like all right. Kobe's legit. That was the Miami familiar whereas like okay. This guy is is living up to the hype is going to be pretty exciting to see just had good. He can be when he was. The news broke that he was retiring and stuff like that and we were getting the goodbye. Kobe year there half year. Whatever it was like we were doing like top ten lists on the show and stuff like that and I remember? We did like the top ten games like Kobe Games. Like how much fun. We'd had like debating where everything goes and like what does it make the list and stuff like that but you said like there's definitely the one that team for like you said of two thousand finals. You got the game. Whenever says the sons the one thousand tons more obviously the game where he hit twelve threes guy was the one that he was not an amazing knocked down three threes in a game and an random January two thousand three game against the Sonics? MSG Sixty one the sixty two versus the mavs in the three three quarters which was wild and then of course eighty-one rappers tons on and on and on and they're so awesome. Eighty one for me because I never saw another human do it in the NBA and then no one wilted in the sixties. Obviously to one hundred but You know the eighty-one was special. Because it was it was Kobe. You know Kobe at its best I it was also sort of his downfall. The fact that he shot every single time and part of the reason why some people didn't like them but You know when you look back jacket the Waco played. Some people just can't do what he did even if they're miss shots some people just can't shoot that much. It's a little bit of the Russell Westbrook scenario that we that we're watching today and eighty one man. No one's done it so crazy that happens they were down onto the. I mean it was definitely getting some points there at the end when it was under each round win that game but they were down eighteen like in the third and he caught fire the the massive second half in that one obviously eighty one. You're going to have some massive ads for anyone. You had a few moments against the raptors to it. Actually there was a game in Toronto. Remember is another one where he had a big one at forty six after he said. Listen I only come to Canada once a year WANNA put on a show and it felt like he did that. I like that that it did mean something to because that was like Jordan type thing where I know that the kids in the stand this is the end again. They're ever going to see. I want to remember it and I and so we had that chairmanship quality about him. You know he he liked to put it on and you know in the All Star Games as well particularly those early years he liked he liked to show off in those those. MVP for sure. Speaking of that. This I remember. I found this quote when we were doing the whole. Kobe was retired and stuff. And I think it's just so perfect Michael Michael Rosenberg of SL. He said the NBA is appealing for two fundamental reasons. The artistry of the game itself and the personalities of the stars nobody of this generation honoration epitomised both like Kobe. Bryant spot on on the Lakers through like on the biggest market the biggest thing you know. That's that's the other thing to ought to live up to. That sort of a market is very very tough but he did anything else guys. I mean this we again. We're coming in here late on Sunday night will let us one. Of course breathe here on Monday. We got the. We'll get back into the swing of things. Don't you worry with daily podcast and stuff like that. And we got some specials coming up to But anything else to add. I mean I'm glad we did this. I am actually. I'm oddly feeling better than when we first sat down here. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just smiling and talking hoops so these guys and thinking about his his career Assad is at all is it. Does it brightens you up a little bit. Yeah I loved his final game as another the thing that it'll always stick with me the warriors were going for NBA history. They were going to win their seventy third game that game that same night and nobody cared. Everybody was watching Kobe. Take fifty shots even remember who he played. It was the jazz. Nobody cares about that either. He took fifty shots scored sixty points. You might think yeah fifty shots who cares sixty points. That's Kobe Bryant man. That was what a way to go out. What a perfect way for him to go out of the NBA taken as many shots as he wants it scoring sixty points and he joked about it saying you know people are telling me like like you shoot too much on tonight shoot? They started really hot too right like he was really efficient. I I if I did see the step right early in that game in that game. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. The jets had a late to in that one. Didn't I and yeah places going in the show. The three yeah. Everybody's obviously respecting the legend. And giving him you know another half foot of space as well just shots up a two for sure all right so Yeah we're GONNA call there. I mean look our deepest condolences or obviously going out to Vanessa the entire Bryant family. Everyone everyone the Lakers Lakers organization N._B._A.. In general but Yeah that's we'll we'll you'll hear from us a little bit later this week.

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A Kobe Bryant Special

The Golf Podcast

46:35 min | 8 months ago

A Kobe Bryant Special

"Welcome to Madina caddy. I'm at bury it. Say Special episode today that we're GonNa Talk Kobe Bryant and how he impacted the game of golf. We've got a lot of thoughts. There will be a lot of reflection election and later. Michael Pose an interesting question to me yesterday that I wanna get into two things to note though before we get started. Please subscribe rate and review. View this podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts tele friend tweet Addis Steal? Someone's phone subscribe for them. It really helps us out and helps more people find the show and be sure to check out the newest podcast on the Espn Roster S. V. Pod. He's back every Tuesday evening. Scott Van Pelt. This week he'll share his thoughts on Kobe Bryant. And he's got the legendary Steve Kerr on the show. His first two episodes were must-listen. This week is no different. Find it wherever you listen to. Your podcast gassed. All right time to get started on the T. it's Mattie Academy. Here's Matt Berry and Michael Collins and it's Tuesday which means your weekly tee box dysfunction back alongside the caddy Michael Collins. I and and the Mattie this is Matt in a kind of the podcast is up on social media which you guys did a fantastic job this week at Keti. At why the word. And see a dede. I E that is about the instagram twitter. The patrons were great this week on twitter. Firing back at some of the questions. We encourage show engagements. One of the hosts likes to do that. Me The other one does not follow through what they said they would caddy a number of things. We want to touch touch on today but we are going to start with where the entire sports world has has been since Sunday in. That is the tragic passing of Kobe. Bryant Bryant has daughter G G and seven others and a helicopter crash in calabasas California which is just south of La North of San Diego for the tour was and how this tragedy Michael relates to golf. And I'll tell you why in a second but when you look at how it affected me as a as a golf fan and consumer in you and I were talking on the phone yesterday about it and Al.. I'll tell you what we were talking about. How when tigers in contention and there's a tournament of the Stature Torrey Pines my Sunday set? It's when covered starts to PM Eastern on watching to the last ball drops in watching mark. Lebron winnow watching tiger man. I'm watching in all of that. I did not watch a single stroke of Gulf on Saturday because of the Kobe News and the only time in this day Sunday. I'm sorry Sunday and this is the weirdest part about it. Michael Only time that I switched over to golf because I was with my wife Ashley. Actually I remember telling house like I wonder if Tiger knows I wanNA know if tiger nose and I flipped over and it was just. I'm I'm talking to the second of an Amana Bali owners. I thought different Fernandes job at a difficult situation interviewed tiger of him just finding out about Kobe and and it was a Sunday that I'll I'll never forget where it was or what I was doing. And I'll never forget thinking in our world in this is Gulf world of ours. How many players knew? How would they handle it in the connection that a player and athlete Kobe? Had in your World Michael which is being in a golf course during a golf tournament. Yeah there's A. There's a lot to unpack and I'll start with when I got to the golf course. It's like I was scheduled to do it An early morning sportscenter hit from out there that got pushed so because I had already done something tonight before four. That could that held up so I didn't get to the golf course. Until right as tiger was teeing off and then watched him play a couple of holes and as I walked into the media center to get all my stuff organized so I kind of watch everything that was going on on on the golf. Course that's one of the first report came out and everyone especially in for us. I should they not everyone but us especially and I mean us. ESPN IT takes us a lot longer. Comparatively actively to break news than other outlets. Sometimes do and the reason that it takes us longer to do that. Because I I heard about this on. Twitter is because of the amount of confirmations we need to get and the amount of sources we have to check with before going with anything because a lot of times in today's world. It's all about being first but for us it's about being right so let me be I be right interject on that row quit preferred for those listening and kind of the background prosperity. ESPN I you know working on sportscenter. You were the ones that break news on sportscenter. Yes and oftentimes we will as anchors new essentially what we are Michael is. We are in news. Sports Anchors sportscenter. We do have fun. There's a lot of fun mix but like you saw our job becomes in the tragic situation life and death in certain areas of the sports world and so we have to wait. Wait as anchors before our news desk here at ESPN has cleared the story. Correct it has to be cleared by the news desk and they. The news desk goes through several channels to make sure that the news is confirmed. I was working the morning. Jose Fernandez young pitching phenom at the Miami Marlins Florida Marlins and I was anchoring sportscenter. That Sunday morning and I remember vividly sitting at our sports that are preparation ration- area seen on social media knowing about it on social media but we were not adding it to the sports sports in a rundown until our news desk gave us clearance. And you know what you're right often times that makes us second third or fourth but when we get it right eight yeah. There's not going to be anyone better covering the story because we know we're right. It's slow back around story about works at ESPN. We have to have clearance from a completely separate news. WHO's Anthony of our company before even allowed to put it on any type of media social television otherwise correct? We we do our own confirmations and so when the when it started coming over social media that this had happened it took a took a little while while before confirmation started coming and then of course you were getting some reports that were not confirmed and then turned and out not to be true and so there was but when it was finally confirmed by a source that we you know. We're like okay this is this is real now When you say like okay this is real now it literally? You felt it on property because now since everyone's allowed to have their cell phones out on the golf course alert start coming coming through two phones even though they're on silent and whatnot and so even the all the golfers that were out on the golf course could feel something was up and could feel a murmur going through and it was it was macab. How how the vibe of the whole tournament completely changed when was the last Ti- time probably around around eleven o'clock reports started surfacing just after two thirty PM eastern correct which would have made it eleven? Thirty am I am Pacific. Yes which would have it was right after just about every player on the court. Every player was on the golf course when when everything do things started going down. And and they're the roars worth their. That was that was the feeling that was going through the crowd. It was the the normal roars. Weren't there because where this golf course is is probably an hour north of where the accident occurred. Maybe just a little bit more but not much. It's kind of inbetween were. We're in between where the accident occurred. And where the where we'll be playing the genesis open or the genesis purchase called Genesis now. Because not an open but it was a a very sobering somber feeling around the golf course and and then the worst part was as players. Were coming off. The course. The first thing that they were doing was asking is it real like is is it true and have to tell your friends like yeah. It's this is not a job like it's not fake that this really did happen. It I'll just say I hope the everybody there and told them I love them like it. Sucks that that it takes something like this and I think what you put out on twitter to was so so appropriate. Didn't have to put anything out. I just re tweeted what you put an end golfers we were talking about that too that it that sometimes sometimes bubba Watson talking to him was when he found out. He made two bogeys in a row after he found out he didn't care he didn't care because you start realizing in life what matters what's bullshit uh-huh and again. Excuse me for saying that way. But that's the honest truth tweeting. This is the truth. You realize like what really matters. And what doesn't matter her and it sucks that it takes something like this to happen to put that kind of life perspective back on again especially especially when it's somebody who and this is one of the things that golfers we're talking about coming off the golf course it's like this guy was forty one years old and and let's take away the fact that it's Kobe Bryant this forty one year old guy who also has three other daughters one of them who who seven months old yeah four daughters total. Yeah and he's got a wife and three kids that now grow up without him ever ever and grow without their sister ever and so when when you have something thing like that happen and it's especially an iconic figure like coby who actually was doing so many good things you know for so many people after his life and basketball like this guy. He lived in amazing basketball life and now his life after after basketball was projecting on a huge. I don't WanNa say chart but I mean it was. It was going in a way that that you could see that he was going to do a lot of good things for a lot of people well and he was headed that way he i read read somewhere that I thought it was perfectly put that at forty one. You know three or four years removed from tyrod people thought that Koby Bryant just started to live trying trying to figure out how to live and what what makes this we use it a lot on this podcast because we talk about tiger woods a lot and there's a picture in ninety cindy six or seven of tiger and Kobe. Ninety seven. Ninety seven the Lakers lock. It was just after he won the master's and those two came up together whether they were transcendent. And we use that word a lot transcendent and that's what Kobe was. He was a transcendent athlete. How do I know that? Because because of the reverend he got from Tiger and from Justin Thomas from Jordan speak from these other her athletes. Tony fee. Now these golfers that said I modeled my competitiveness after Kobe. Uh I did this after Kobe golfers. I don't even know if Kobe's picked up a golf club in his life. I don't buy golfers. Kobe thing at all no but golfers all I followed Koby you know. And that's a guy that you know. Look everybody knows that. MJ and Charles are the two bastions bastions of golf in the NBA World. We know that but what we now know because of this tragedy that Koby was very much a role all model and someone. These pro golfers looked after an up to coming up. And and like you said model their competitiveness after after you know because there were so many stories of how hard Kobe worked and how he if he thought you were GonNa GonNa do something and he wanted to be there before you and make sure he was still there when you were leaving so that you would see him and go that do still here. He wanted you to know in your head. You're not gonNA outworked me. And that kind of work ethic and competitiveness. This is not something that people go. What has shame? But that's also then now because of where he was in his life. What is what makes it hurt so much more even for golfers who had no association or affiliation with everyone knew who he was and it is why that hurts? Is You do what you have to do in your professional life. And that was his stage age one and Stage two was being a dad getting to be a father writing kids books I mean. He got an Oscar the year after he retired. And and it's like okay. This dude did what he was did what he felt like he was put here to do as far as being a competitor and trying to be the best there ever was and after he was done doing that then he went now. I get to be the best dad that I can be and really put everything I got into being a father and a husband and everything. I didn't get to do who when my job was. You know I'm not gonNA say the number one priority because you know as hard as you might work at work you know where. Oh you're married and got a family. They're still number one but they also understand the journey that your own. Yeah so in that context. Now that that I part of the journey was done it was like now I get to really focus that kind of attention all my family and they were going to be appreciative of it to like you can see the relationship that he was really building in bonding with his thirteen year. Roll daughter and so to think that now the other family members aren't going to have that opportunity at the end to have that relationship and be be the fruits of the Labor that were in in part one of his life and now not there and you felt that on the golf course I mean it was. I love glued to death. I mean he's a really nice guy down to earth and believe me like he's his story to he's been through some stuff he all. His wife pretty almost died. Yeah he was almost a single dad but let me tell you. That was the worst way to win a golf tournament and I. I don't mean like how he wanted on the golf course. I mean in everything that happened. No question they're dead. It was horrible. Like what the horrible. Because that Sunday the twenty sixth is always be remembered for that. I said at the outset like I don't care if you're the biggest biggest Gulf and on the planet. I'm a huge fan. I wasn't going to watch the golf because I wanted to watch what was going on and even if you wanted to watch the golf I'm Lackawanna Li- like no one again in the big picture of life and family and what matters it. It doesn't matter like not a golf tournament it look it. It's heart and I know some people are going to be like. How can you say? Oh because it's it's one of those things nobody everyone was there and everyone was going through the motions but it was just like we realized just how not important like winning that golf tournament was I was talking to some of the things I will say this because I had this discussion with somebody because they were initially on on the TV broadcasts they were like tiger nose and that was not true because and I had talked to. Someone asked me if if it was you caddied now I want to get to that. Let's get to that conversation. The other side. That's a whole different conversation. But I do want to get to that I- I debated a whole time because people are on their phones and so the players were going to have access to the information kind of love it but let me. Players aren't checking their phone. They're not bought but caddy caddy's will be having a caddy could be a conversation with one of the volunteers. Volunteers are waiting on the walking scores. They're the ones they're gonNA know. Yeah they're the ones that that are gonNA know because what happens is it comes comes over their radio so they all have radios that are connected so once one of them knows it starts going around now and I wanna Donna. I'm going to try to be careful with the next part of this because I don't want to be fair to the conversation but I don't WanNa seem insensitive to it and I don't want to sidestep it but don't okay. I find so many parallels between Kobe and tiger and a walk through them with you but there are in tiger talked about it because they were both teenage genomes. Yes they were both twenty something on top of the world superstar superstars yes. They've both had their issues issues with infidelity and controversy off the course correct court controversy correct and they both moved to that second chapter of life with kids correct and now focus was Co.. I will say Kobe's was much more serious. The controversy because every charges filed filed correct correct. But but in the sense that they both they both were publicly. They both both went through. Personal public controversies. That most people will never understand and and and I don't and I say that in in the sense of there are plenty of people that number one have things happen in off the golf course or just away from work that are private matters and aren't put out into to the public and so there it's very easy for people to just go. You know to judge it's like I. I say it's like throwing stones in a glass house when it comes to. You know things that happen to people you like. What how how can you? How can you throw stones in glasshouse? When I'm sure there's plenty of people in everyone's lives who have been who know people or you you know are one to two degrees of separation away from people who have gone through something in their life that you go man? I'm glad This ain't in the paper. Think about but think about how these two have have come up like they were both mid in the mid nineties tigers. Forty five Kobi's forty-one within four or five years of each other and they literally their career paths some of their life path stuff is so similar and tiger was the first Gulf War that I thought of when this came out. 'cause I knew that they had a relationship and I knew that they had gone said they worked out together. I knew when she lived in California these to work out now when he moved to Florida you know they would just kind of text on occasion. They weren't nearly as close once he once he moved was living full time in Orlando and then Jupiter they. They stayed in touch but not nearly like they did when he was in California. Did you get a sense You know and because of their similarities in careers and we the Tiger Kobe connection. But was there any player out. There that you saw that was particularly struck by this more Allen. I'll say this so when tiger. Joey told Tiger right when they walked off eighteen before he went into scoring right and so normally when tiger goes into scoring he signed scorecard and he comes out and goes right to do his media stuff right. This time tiger came out of the scoring and he went right to the fans and started signing autographs and and was walking he was signing autographs going towards the exit. Like he was going to leave. Now how the girl that was running the media like she runs point for PGA tour for media like Okay Tiger when you're done you you gotta do. CBS skysports than written media scrum. And so he's he's like GonNa Leave and he knew that you know he had been requested for. CBS for the scrum. But that's the first it's time and this is me. I'm just just me talking here. I think the reason that tiger did that the reason that he came out and went straight to sign autographs autographs and was like I say pretending like he was gonNA leave was because it hit him that hard that he needed needed a moment and so his moment the only way he could get a moment was to go sign autographs to like try and composes poses thoughts. 'cause he gets you could sign autographs. It's mindless it's mindless so I honestly believe and I have never seen him do that before. See now in its funny not funny you say that. I know it's very perceptive. 'cause you could tell when my wife and I were watching the Bali owners interview live on TV. She's the one that said it she goes. He's in shock. He doesn't know he just found out and he doesn't. I don't know how to handle it right. Because he was so robotic in his answer and you can see it in his eyes he just didn't know what was going on and in that group when they came off to like the other caddies players in that group were asking like what are you know. What's they kept saying? What's it's real? What is it real? Is it real and then what do you know who when they say what are you know at a new. They were asking like who else was in the the helicopter. And and it's it's a it's a horrible feeling man. It just like his his main main do rob was there and his security guy and and we were just standing there talking and literally right before they left. I just I went went over to tiger and I was a man and I gave him a hug and I was like I love you dude like we don't save enough now you don't and with all the things that Kobe did for us sports fans throughout his career. Everybody everybody loves legacy loves of the term legacy and he's he's made is in basketball. He was getting ready to make his in his second career. But there's a chance that his legacy added to it is making all of us appreciate things a little bit more true because he had every resource on the planet to live a long healthy life every every any surgery Guan look like what his legacy after basketball was going to be would be even greater it was trending that way. Yeah like with everything that he was doing his side gigs. For after his basketball life would have been an opportunity for his legacy Agassi to be greater than what is basketball. Legacy was and how many sports figures can say that how many sports figures can say that not only was I one of the greatest of all time in sport but I can look back at my life and say what I it did after that was even better. That's what makes us sad because we don't know yet to be at the beginning of it right. That's what sucks so when we come back DOC caddy test onto the second ago but I want to dive into this because I think it'll be kind of the argument. That or the healthy debate that people away in with us on social media. Yeah whether or not you've taken us information and you let your player no that coming up next Madina candy welcome back Mattie and a caddy talking about really making this kind of a Kobe Bryant special and how he affected the game of Golf Sunday in terms of the impact. He had on some of these younger players and the most dominant player in the planet Tiger Woods and because because of this day and age of cell phones communicates got information in their in their side. Pocket people golfers his caddy said. They knew about this. or You could tally challenge. Course at Torrey Pines that people were very aware of the of the tragedy surrounding Kobe. Bryant then caddying. I talked about it on the phone yesterday. If you were my caddie and I was the player and you had this information should you have told your your player and your player. Well you also have to put this caveat owning. Your player is in contention to win the tournament because that changes things as well. If we're in seventieth place then you can talk you're going through the motions then in that I mean I'm just saying I'm not saying I would still do it. I'm just saying it changes thing. WHO's your player? Is it tiger. Well yeah that's what we talked about. That's what that's what we talked about in the media center when someone came to me and I was sitting next to Harry and was was like hey you you wonder if tiger knows I'm like Nah I don't think he knows and so I had seen some things earlier in the day that I knew some. His people must have known that I was like I. I don't think Tiger knows and so that was the question that was posed. Was If if you're caddying for tiger do you tell them and I said no you don't i. Don't tell them you know why. Because here's okay. Let me let me ask you this real quick before we get into it because you and I have different opinions on this okay if you know okay so you view the caddy. No you know what happened if you the player May Tiger love that. Here's the gallery. which which he yelling do it for Mamba and I'm walking off the green after hearing do it for Mamba and I say to you man caddy? Why why is everyone? I wonder why everyone's saying do it for mom you don't though you don't. That's not tiger doesn't do that okay. But but if this hypothetical yes if he does is do you tell him then I mean I just have to say like tiger would never ask that because so many people yell so many things anyway anyway randomly her and over yet but it doesn't matter like I think you know it doesn't because you you ask Potato Mashed Potato Guy Stop and let me tell you. Here's here's why. And this is the context that Mrs White Tiger I know in this context was not lying the night before. Lebron broke the scoring record of of Kobe. New Record but it was the third so for them to be yelling out do it for Mamba and even I mean tiger said like I just I just thought Lebron broke is score. He took pass them on a score in the night before fans so everybody wanted me to win right like for Kobe. So Lebron on wouldn't be the guy that all of that matters a lot and so that's why it's like you're not going to ask me and and why is it if I do it for Mama because we also what a huge sports Fan Tiger and joey both are. There's no you can't tell your player that and here's the difference between inside the bubble and outside the bubble and and I can tell everyone I have experience spirits on both sides and I understand both sides of it on the outside of the bubble. The fans go your tell tiger you know. Why because was he can play inspired he can Dow? Does it for Kobe. Like every day. And inside the bubble the truth is as a competitor competitor. The last thing that you need is another thought in your head the last thing you need is especially one that tragic correct like you don't need inspiration at for Tiger Woods. Tiger doesn't need inspiration to go while I was only only GonNa ask this shot but now really gonNA try like. That's not how it works. That's not how the mind works at that level with those this guy's so and you are one hundred percent. Say Distraction is not. It's not helpful. It's not one of those things where you say that and you'd like you know I didn't. I didn't think I had it in me and I dug deeper because someone said do it for Mambo like it doesn't it doesn't work that way in golf and and I would say it doesn't work that way in a lot of sports. What if player is five off the lead? Then it's all dependent on the player where you are in the tournament and on the golf course and it really really comes down to knowing your player if I'm caddying for somebody. Here's the perfect example. If if I'm caddying for Omar Khadr Mike. No that's right that we'll get to Daniel that he was the guy. Yeah that's Oprah but if I'm caddying for Omar your recipe and we're in sixty fifth place on Sunday and this happens knowing. That Omar is a big Lakers fan. I'm GonNa tell them I'm gonNA tell alum if I'm caddying for Daniel Chopra on a Sunday and we're in fortieth place and it's the tenth hole and and I find out I'm not telling him because because Chopra stays in game mode and even even in the time between shots something like that couldn't drop on Daniel because his reaction to it. But how is that different. What I want to know is how any of this different? What if they what? If so we're dealing in hypotheticals here. But what if they find out twenty minutes before they tee off in the weren't like what would the Ziya. Then what if if it happens before anyone tees off then then everyone knows. Yeah then everyone knows but you also then you see. There's a big difference between before the moment starts. And when I say the moment I mean hitting that first tee shot and being on the course in competition even if ten minutes before you go to tee off. That's it's ten minutes you have the process and put that in a compartment and whatever that compartment may be now. Everyone's different so everyone has a different compartment. They'll have to put that in but right before you hit that first tee shot you have an opportunity to put information that you have or have gathered into that compartment like like the. Here's the best example that I could use Brett Farve and his dad like if Brett Farve Dad passes away during the a game. They're not tell they're not telling him. No yes he played his ass all correct and that was after the fact he knew and he he went out there and now again other guys would have a compartment would be like. I can't play. I can't play or they would try and play and be horrible horrible because they couldn't put it in a compartment. That didn't compromise what they needed to do out there. You know what I so uh-huh badly wanted to disagree with you here but I've got no argument. You're one hundred percent right. You are now the the Brett farve examples where you won that. Because I'm like that is a you have a moment to set aside your time to handle it however you want because I will tell you I was out in West Palm and when I found out as and I were were at one of our favorite places in West Palm just having a nice Sunday drink drink and I turned into the moment that I found out. I was Zombie for the rest of the day. Because I didn't know what to think rights writes I was so out of it and I was watching people when they found out. I was watching people in the restaurant. They were zombies. I heard people talking about it when we were right in our vikes back and everyone was texting with people like everyone turned into zombies. Because we didn't know no we. We didn't know what to think it was so shy. You don't know what to do with something like that either. So you're an athlete. You don't want you don't want athlete shutting mind off during tournament now. We both admitted tournament and outcome at this point trivial. Yes but in the heat of the moment the your mind goes somewhere and I'm with you. I don't know that you tell your athlete player. I don't know because at first I was like tell them. Nah and you're right and like I said that there's a big difference between people like so Omar would be we. We can talk about it in between shots and then when it was time for him to hit the shot he can go back he can go into that place and if he doesn't hit a good shot he's not gonna be like man. It's because we were talking about this right. We're Chopra's not that Chopra wasn't that way like Chopra if if if I were to see if I tell him something like that and then it's time to get back and hit the shot and he hits a bad shot. He's going to go to like that was part of why he hit a bad shot because he couldn't even if it's true or not true and it's like I don't need there's no reason isn't nothing good can come from this only bad in blame and so you have to kind of determine from your or guy and like it's guys different you have to determine from your guy you know upside versus bad downside and what is going to be greater some guys would be okay with it you know. And there's an upside because then y'all have something to kind of talk about to get you through the back nine when your tie for seventieth or sixty fifth or you know and and you're trying to process as well and that was the other weird thing when you say everybody's like zombies. You don't know how to act that's the thing that is is very strange. It's strange to go. I'm still with my friends. I'm still with my work colleagues. There's a apart. There's things that are still happening on the golf course and around and in the world and so if you make a cracker a joke about it you wanna still laugh but then when it happens you you like should I be you feel you feel almost bad beyond as you laugh and you're like am I supposed to be allowed to laugh right now even though it's got nothing to do with the sadness and horror that's happening on one in in one sense but in another sense like us. Somebody still made a funny. That has nothing to do with and it's a very. I think that's why everyone goes into that Zombie mode because you start thinking to yourself like well when is it okay to laugh and you just processing like yeah add to that process. Yeah I'll tell you this. We now use being on on television this morning for three hours nine of the twelve teams that played in the NBA. Monday night hadn't played the tragedy so there was a ton of tribute. And I promise you this week at the Phoenix Waste Management Phoenix Open. I promise you there will be tributes from all ninety percent of the field will have all those. Who's your hat on their shirts? Say Gallery that's sixteenth hole on Wednesday for the pro-am and probably Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday. There are going to be plenty of. Is that reach into golf bag and put on a Kobe. Kobe Jersey a whole also guarantee you that if they missed the green. They're not getting booed. Now you know and that's another one of those like when is it okay and when is it not okay. That's and in this moment when you know. Somebody's doing that to show love and respect for another a person another human forget athlete it just showing love and respect for another human than I think. The crowd will follow suit doing so. Which is GonNa be strange for that tournament? Because it's not that's the whole where it's it's supposed to give Buck Wild at all cau- law and it will but if someone pulls out a Kobe Jersey or someone you know is obviously paying tribute then. I would hope my hometown tournament dement and said he would understand that. Of course this is now. Of course there's going to be a couple that are that Lebron. Yeah there's always that guy oh I hi Kelly this more than one. So I'M GONNA girl. We'll watch for that. He's had you know every sport you know the Super Bowl will I a pro bowl. The Super Bowl the NBA. Obviously and now golf is really the next sport to be in competition. I'm glad that the Lakers and clippers aren't playing Tuesday as we record this. I'm glad it's on Tuesday and I'm glad that the Lakers and the clippers I are not playing. It was the right thing to do because what we were told from some of our from some people that just degrading going on within the building between mean staffers players front office that that were with him from teenager to now twenty years. It's just too much we haven't heard from family yet. Family has released a statement yet until just best to to to wait and let everyone sort out their feelings lanes before moving on. So we'll watch that this week we'll recap the Waste Management Open. Thanks for hanging with us. Today it was different tone and tenor because of what we dealt with this week in sports world that as well it should be went to golf and so we will get back to the fun. In terms of the tournament we will note some of the the sound and tributes being paid by the golfers at the next tournament which is the waste management. Commit Phoenix Open so then next week when he next week on site at Pebble Beach can't wait all right so I'm onsite at Pebble Beach. What you want to start working on getting this guest next week they could be sitting there with you with your little equipment? You and I'll facetime little equipment with you a little with with your little roaming studio and I will sit here in this year. Control Room. We we moved our new take time next week because of my new sportscenter schedule will that will be eleven. Am Your time next Tuesday. All right. That's when we'll be recording next Tuesday and I will have. I will come up with. I'll have yes yes I have a facetime up facetime off so you and I and guest. We'll know when we're going back. This is a challenge. I'm putting out to you okay. I I two. PM gives you plenty of time. It's early out there. It's not early out there. No It's eleven o'clock out that way so all right two PM will be good. The question gene is the hard part is going to be where of setup you guys hear that already to hear the excuse already standings no listen last year. The weather was the weather at pebble was so bad. They wouldn't put a tent on eighteen. Because is it was so sloppy down there. They couldn't run any Ethernet. 'cause it just would've gotten it would have been nasty and it did smell bad down there too so if if connected in the media center like you see it's easy for you living sloppy as your excuse. Whatever says the guy who just sits in a control? The room doesn't get no phone. Numbers doesn't have to worry about like well if you bring a celebrity or a Golfer ended media center. How do you make sure that other people don't try trying? Just come over there and poach them. Well you're not promised that because every every podcast you're talking about how these guys are your friends. Well a friend would say no everybody else but you I know I know you just say that's a meat problem but that's fine. You know real helpful. Some of US some of us at the anchor the flagship show here. ESPN while the rest of us. Run Golf Paul vacations hanging out and all the nice locales next week. We'll talk about how the program went to play obviously bidder not not the time time or the place for the pro-am conversation next well. We've got another one that I got invited C.. Which is GonNa make you more man all right? Well I'll work on a guess. Yes you be bitter right. I will do that well better Berry and academy. WHO GETS to go on golf vacations every week so next week? Here we go. We're going to have the gas. I live from Pebble Beach. We can't say who because Michael doesn't even know who at this point we appreciate the Donald Listen rate and subscribe for the Caddy Bucko Mattie. This is banned in Mattie mechanic. Thanks for listening to Maddy. The caddy check out more. ESPN podcast on the ESPN APP. Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts Madina caddy.

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Shaquille O'Neal pays tribute to Kobe Bryant

The Big Podcast With Shaq

50:03 min | 8 months ago

Shaquille O'Neal pays tribute to Kobe Bryant

"With the thirteenth pick in the nineteen ninety-six NBA draft the Charlotte Hornets. Select Combing Brian from Lower Merion High School Pennsylvania. I have side Skip College game. No Mush about the best buy. Oh hands down. He's the best player in basketball. I don't think he has a skill that the NBA has ever seen history since purpose. The purpose was the kid. I know exactly how I feel like I knew played bass the NBA looked around. I saw it again. Weren't working as much as I was that I started to understanding how went about. It is hard hard work to me. It was just I just love what I do. I want to do it as much as possible so much emotion in the building because of Kobe Bryant announcing his retirement did you. You set goals when you start in the NBA. Did you have goals at that. Point you wanted to do was really simple Thomas's whereas many championships you haven't fever covering a nothing. Beats getting drafted. Cheer about that moment. Theo it was the beginning of it. All Sir I cannot while it's been tough tough situations. I look at my challenges as as you know something where it becomes a birth something as heavy Omar Show as a challenge. You know it's is a puzzle that you have to figure out of always had some best performances. Aw Fans actually love travel. Don't understand who the only possible outside of Vancouver source of motivation. So when I go to these places and you attention and now everybody welcome into the big podcast with shack. Shaquille O'Neal John. Kincaid Rob Jenner's Dog Brandon Harper on a honestly a solemn Monday when everybody is Taking in the news of the death of Kobe Bryant and big man. We were going to be here to tape and have fun today and goof off and do our normal show and obviously that's not appropriate and probably something. You're not up for if you see if you don't mind just tell us a little bit about how you're feeling we're we're worried about it and want to make sure we check that you're doing well doing well. Aw I'm sick I'm just getting over the de my sister. You guys told me the other day when I came in look like I need some rest in heaven. Been Sleeping at Asia's death because just you know not thinking about the good times but thinking about the times when I coulda did something or could have said. Something could've did something different or could've loved them more or could've showed them more support in the same thing hit when Found out this is news. I was downstairs working out with care and my other son graphic. Show me the teens clip and I yelled the Greg so yeah my face get out my face because you know how the Internet hoax and all that you know. Somebody was just playing around. Just a Morgan. I wish Akhir I didn't WanNA believe it in and everybody's calling me his detro- is it true so I'm like it must not be a hoax because now the whole world knows this information so now I'm saying please. It's not true true. Please don't be true and I'm watching and then you get the comfirmation and sat enough when you. Here's his daughters with them. I didn't do anything I've eaten our slept. I'm looking at all the tapes but I'm sick right now and I know some idiot's GonNa bring up the relationship with Mexico. We had our relationship was was that of brothers brothers. We're brothers on his podcast John. We argue all the time. Am I correct. Yes we are so but in real life when I see you and your lovely wife this all about respect. When I saw Kobe and his daughter's love them he saw my kids? Love Them. If you look at my kids is tweet instagram. He talked to Sharif yesterday morning. Yeah he was checking in. He was checking in on your son though not an hour before his death so all the stuff that document between us there was never a dislike. Just listen to this. Who are brothers? Do have a younger brother. We fight all the time but guess what I love and I love Kobe Bryant. I'm the first to say I got fall race. Annoyed got three without have and I know I couldn't got number four without. I know these things but you know sometimes when when competition comes you know the competitive issues you know some. I'm glad we we became closer but I just sit back and say what if what if and the only thing I said to me is. I'M NOT GONNA be there. He's not going to be here when he walks into the hall of fame. I was just thinking about. Who is he going to call up to bring them in? Who's going to give a speech is? You're gonNA calm is GonNa call Mike who guy. It's not gonNA happen so you know people as feel now go back into my not sleeping. Not Eating not really functioning and it just hurts and there's just you know hard to believe you know Dionne Cole said in his his His comedy special. So if you forty years old put your hands up. And he said he only got thirty minutes left and I feel the tops. But you don't really know how long you have left so look I'm all about about you know being hard all that without the yesterday. I'm GONNA have to delete my my be my confrontation close. I don't WanNa do that anymore. Because you know you never know so I guess just call all people Discrepancies win. Just look away. uh-huh and we didn't talk much to the phone. But I just I just know wish we did Noah sorta like similar guys pay family first business business. And I'll see you WANNA see. I will allow the best friends but I don't do the mushy talking on the phone. Pick a call yesterday and said we need to. We need to communicate a little more. He's my best friend. I consider you guys my best friends. I'm GonNa try to communicate what you guys will more. But that's just how. How will always been snuffed impersonal? Just that you know as my family struggle and now that I'm the guy to support the family always have to maintain. That's all his family. I Kids Mom Dad and then by the time that that's done you you guys know what I'm doing that degree of sitting down relaxing and just you know recharging for the next day so this will go hurt for a long long. I know he's going to be remembered and all that stuff but just wish he was. He's here say too. And my heart goes out Vanessa. But she lost to. She loves her beautiful gee-gee he was born on the same day as my my my thirteen year old. And that's what that's what really hurts. It's a reach out to yesterday. I talked to his sister yesterday of my condolences. But stuff like this will always hurt like like when I lost my little sister. I don't imagine that. Imagine me going I because I'm the oldest imagining sweet. Little innocent system never hurt anybody who never said anything anybody who would ever disrespect anybody who did everything right who everybody loves. Never think she'd go before you. I never thought I'd beat hearing about any of my teammates or any former professional player. Going like this. I want to see everybody. Get Old Bill Bill Russell. The Doctor J. Lo so we can have stories We still the best dur recreate it. That's not going to change age. But I wish is sixty seventy an old folks home on the show. We could talk about it but he will be remembered and Everybody's everybody's GonNa all number every day but for me. This amount of hurt alone. Time can ask our who have a little brother but I really lost her brother yesterday. May I ask ask you a question and I know that You shared a lot there and it's pretty awesome. The way shared that It'd be appropriate as possible. As is there anything that today today you find yourself you regret because you to did a lot to mend your relationship and move forward but I know that a lot of people always worry about that when when someone goes early or unexpectedly that I wish I had done this or said this. Is there anything we should communicate at war but again. That's that's just how we are of course when we saw each other was love and respect and you know you look for the kids and I get out his his. His daughter. digi was a fabulous player. But some just wish I could have said talked to before I said everything that happened happened. You know a lot of people like to look at the negative side but think beat dog understand this electrified. The plan worked perfectly. We won three in a row. I think it'd be a more horrific story. We didn't win any anybody can say if you did if you did that now. We want three out of four and not only do we went through. We dominated three when even close and then the fourth on you know things things happen in new people came in. You know before hurt people out and then we just couldn't pull it off and then no changes had to be made and be dog. You've talked talked about the shacking. Kobe was probably the biggest thing that shaped your life is a sports fan. I don't think there's anything that I enjoy watching more than colby and shocking action. They were you know you you talk about like like I said the greatest duo ever no disrespect to to Mike Him Impaired. They were great but this was different. Oh yeah two. Alpha males this is two Alpha males sales rose duo big. Do better do one little one. Big Greatest due respect But I'm not I'm from I'm from Atlanta you know and I and I'm not from La. But I you know I see videos and I see you know pictures of a people out in La and just the love that they have not only for the half or Shaquille as well and just to see that city the world in general period period but especially the city and the outpour and the love and compassion. And just the the the the joy they have for one Kobe Bryant it it. It's amazing I mean. I know the grammy's were blatant even. Give a flip about at the grammys. That's the that's the House that you and Cobi built. I don't care I don't care about the grammys. That's y'all's house grams. Is there one night you all one three rains in that building. I don't want hinting about no grammy awards they go. Those people stood in front of that building to honor. Honor one of the greatest to ever put it on a lot here. It's yeah it'd be crapload. But it's unbelievable so Something Brandon and I talked about before the show. What's what's your what's the one thing you're going to take with you with Kobe Bryant? What's what's the the one thing you'll always carry with you that you got from Kobe? This more than one and everyone knows what that is we would. We're the perfect enigmatic. Do you pushed each other constantly all day every day. And guess what I push my little brother. He pushes me all the time. John on a push you yes she did rob push you beat up like this. What is what people who care about each other do? My favorite stories are about the ones that for example I I used to watch all these great shows and then you watch the real story of what what what really went on. Yes this is life but it was always respect. You know people always say look. When I won the first year and ship it was the first guy to jump from arms? Tell me exactly. I like how the two of you though your family's your family's merged because Shaquille you've shown it where you know Rob's daughter and my daughter both can talk about their uncle. Shacks like you very much. Open your arms as family and you guys learned that and it seems like Kobe embrace race. The same thing with your children as you've embraced with ours and everybody else's you have but when you're in business whatever happened. Locker Room stays milagro. You don't take it out. Unwritten unwritten rule that can never be broken so even you know doing all that stuff as having a beautiful Asian. Hey Sean you like you know and then going at home I never talked about that stuff going on and then spicy it actually. What made made us more intriguing intriguing? You know people only want to watch US play. They WANNA walk well. WHO's doing this? Who's doing it and look this part of the part of the crazy business that we limit a bit? But what am I gonNA take away. We'll take away everything and Get no sleep for a while. Just been sitting here watching channel highlights and just trying to room this. We need you to take care of yourself though right can i. Can I ride you for a minute. Senate tell you we need to. You need to take care of yourself. Easier said than done brother. I got you work all day. They will come on. Because when when I'm out with with an island in the world I WANNA use the word distraction because a lot of stuff going on driving pay attention row token ajar talking around working with mobile but when I get home. There's nothing nobody. That's when the thoughts takeover like yesterday phone highlights highlights instagram tweets on the news. Even if I wanted to just cry and get away from. Couldn't everybody's calling 'cause people know him not okay so you yeah but not really so yesterday not to the map. That was really a nap and I woke up and I tried to go books. I've misled well. Not at all not one week. Not even tire dislike and then we gotta go to La Tomorrow to work probably GonNa hit me was for. You know what you'd want you to do though right you sure as hell nobody would want you to do. Uh He wouldn't want you to be. He want you to be shack. And I know that's a lot to ask. But he want everybody to be the best version of themselves and he pushed your ass. He'd he takes it to dust yourself off the soon as you can and get back to doing your thing and we love your brother. Yeah we love you all right. Listen were you need us. You know. We're here Bro. I love you. We're GONNA check in all right. All right seculow Neil live from his home and McDonough Georgia or be is first time you've cried and that made me cry. I know me too me cry. Do Dude Debbie Dog. It's not just it's probably been. It's probably only two other individuals that obviously not my family that our liberty status that I've literally dropped and broke down for that's Michael Jackson. And all my in you know I'm a big Luther Vandross me when he died oh my goodness i. I didn't know about you. Yes I love Luther. Did you father do that. Mom and Dad yes and I took it upon myself got here I without it so the next would be somebody like Kobe. So when I saw the news I I call robbing because I couldn't believe it. He calls me. Have you seen this and I go. What he acted? Little thing is what Jackson. I go come on. Stop All true and I opened my computer the computer I read the TMZ article. And I'm like does this doesn't seem this can't be right. This this is not right. I called you and then we catch later and then and then crashed on the computer and boom there it all immediately call check and I and later on. I was regretting calling him. Just because I'm thinking everybody's blown up his phone but he immediately took my call and we talked and And we talked briefly two or three minutes but I could tell and he says as I'm wrecked here he said I'm wrecked and that's all I can think of is just as that to have such a complicated history with another human being that you're not married to or or related to not many of us have that in life You're someone that you identify with that. You're identified will longest time shack in Kobe was like one synonymous it was just. It was a word and it's synonymous to tens of millions of people worldwide and as Shack says there And a little behind the scenes. I mean shack very much. He worries about his mortality. He worries about you know. Is Everything going to be okay. Is Everything to you. Know be alright. Is His family okay. He's constantly worried. What about his everybody taking care of his atlas and he never takes care of himself? He puts the world on his shoulder. That bothered me a little bit. It's it's you know why why because he's such disconcerting because he he's not I mean he is thinking about himself but he he's putting everybody else right ahead of him he usually does. If the family's okay kids are okay and Mama's okay and sisters and brothers are okay and the podcast and TNT is okay they I it just texted me. Please make sure we identify the other members of the crash. Yes I don't want this to be all about Kobe and he's a hundred. I guess what we're just talking about shack right. And if that ain't the most shack thing ever just came that he's that he's texting saying saying make sure you identify the others because shack would have wanted to do that to John. Altobelli the head baseball coach at Orange Coast College. It was an amazing by the way a seven hundred plus baseball community carry out to belly. His wife Alissa Altobelli their daughter. Who was John? His best friend Christina mouser she was the top assistant of the Mamba Girls team a woman who endlessly was instructing young girls at this academy and to pushing it hurt her husband on good morning. My that's my heart your heart your chest Sarah and Peyton chester another Mother and daughter Payton on the team and her mom Sarah and Kobe's private the pilot era Zambian who was also lost in it but that is so strange because that is the most shack thing ever that after we get done. We didn't ask Kim about the other people and he's worried he in his head. He's worried about wait a minute. I had to honor those tests to just be. He's that is that folks that is a killer clown around so much on the show but honestly epitomizes Shaquille O'Neal that whole exchange demise him in Rob when when you say atlas that's so true he but that's who he is he worries party. Wants everyone else to be okay. And he tends to not think about himself self and the fact that he said he's not sleep and he's not eating just bothers the hell out of does it just worries the hell out of me because it does you guys come to this show for comedy in Amman and Shacks Bigger Than Life Personality and then there's weeks like this where we we don't have that now. There's still have that this interview view and robs got it back and we're going to let you have another chance to be able to To catch up with it Oh Rosiak before you moved to the interview. Okay I want I WANNA thank a couple of people. I want to thank our friends at manscaping who are featured in our next show K. We have a very fun show by the way we taped earlier. It was a lot of is supposed to come out today Eh. We obviously shall. We didn't that was it wasn't appropriate so instead of having a new show next Monday we will release today's show and then we will really later in the week again. So you'RE GONNA get you're going to get but but you don't these are these are sponsors that keep our show afloat. Yes you will hear are hilarious man. Scape Ed's in the next show. They absolutely are manscaping. Leads are better than I've heard on some other. National Radio Shows Well there you go. So we're yourself on the back on the ball on the balls it's manslaughter. And of course our friends at bed online who are huge supporters of the show always have been super bowl week. It is super weak and Dave Mason will join us in the show. That comes out later later. Great this week but both of those sponsors are very important to us to make sure we showed them some love even though their ads are going to be appearing in. The show's later this sweet. Okay now the interview you're going to hear today was taped back in Twenty fifteen and there are probably people who've come to the shack podcast. The BIG PODCAST shack In a year or two into our stream that they joined the show in the last so they hadn't heard this interview It was the first time the check and Kobe had spoken together in about eleven years. Yeah it was. I think three months into the show be dog wasn't with us. You know we were on. I'm going to be completely honest. You want to pull the curtains curtains back. Yes we were having a little bit back and forth of. How long are we going to do this? 'cause show is doing well but we fight the schedule and you know we both everybody. Everybody here has full-time jobs. As we are so then. Kobe gives us the nod of. Hey look let's let's sit down with shackled. Do this interview. He was Shaquille. And this podcast goes from hobby to two plus million yes downloads and in the span of a week and Dan Patrick Sportscenter Collin County Sports Colin Cowherd Good Morning America and it was all these shows then realize it's okay. This is a place where they can come for stuff and that interview. Got A lot of buzz. Got A lot of bugs. I haven't listened to it and I can't wait to hear it all it's an entire and I'll tell you what what you're about to hear and I didn't realize it was taped before it was an August. It was before Kobe announced that it was going to be his final season in the NBA. So you're gonNA hear shack say a a couple of times man get healthy. Have a good season love to see and Kobe even says twenty years I do. I'm still going. I'M OUTTA my mind. This interview to me is pure Koby Brian. It is so honest and you hear so much of that mob mentality. In the way he's explaining. His relationship was Shaquille and how those days went went and and both of them are very candidly. Really powerful and listen to shack without spoiling the interview. Listen to shack. Take the majority of the blame for the problems in their relationship which I thought was one of the most interesting parts and Kobe doesn't disagree with them. No wrong which is fun. The house is like a marriage. You'll hear you'll hear all about it. Yeah so And thank you to Shaquille. Who did not have to spend time with us today and I just my heart breaks for them? This is the moment. You've waited for everybody and check you asked what's again and for your dramatic music to be played. Yes yes she welcome an old friend into the house. Yes yes yes who is a check ladies and gentlemen even the greatest liquor ever visit Kobe Brian. What's up Kobe man? I'm doing good. Listen I think right now. It's time to clear the air because as I've said many times that we were the most enigmatic controversial most talked about dominant one two punch. I just want people to know that I don't hate you know you don't hate. May I called it today. A work beef is what we had. I was young. He was young then as as I look at it. We want three out of four so I don't really think a lot was done wrong. Also I just wanted to clear the air and let everybody know that no. I don't hate you. We had a Lotta disagreements. We had a lot of arguments but I think it both fueled us and I was thinking the other day while Phil Jackson never really jumped in because he knew that you say something about me. I get pissed off. I say something about you. Get pissed off and again at work so thanks for calling on the show. I just wanted to clear the air and I know he said a lot of crazy stuff but I have fun doing it. Did you have fun doing it back in those days I did. But here's the thing is that you know what we did. Our disagreements with those things specials that we set them to each other face and then we didn't go behind each each other back and whisper to our teammates bodies that the other right because I just nothing but a friction cancer to the team when you get things out right fighting each other and you say what you think and you have those disagreements. You agree to disagree you move on all of a sudden integrity of the team is bizarre and then when you come out of that is it You know agreeing. Whatever the case may be the team is all the more better for it because now you have more momentum and I think that's really catapulted US expecting when that second shape now? When was the last time that you guys had a conversation where you really sat down and talked then maybe discussed some some of the things? I've learned Kobe. The checks not a man really to talk about a bunch of what's going on in the past. What about yourself and when was the last time you guys actually chatted? Yeah I miss dodgy person even. Yeah I'm shocking on much the same way. You look at the jewelry w one knowledge but you know what's fun to me. When when was the last time we play Kobe? Two thousand one four thousand four and two thousand fifteen. You think eleven years and they're still talking about the kind of funny to me but again you know I'm here say that no I don't hate you. We have disagreements here. We always have disagreements but it it worked for us. I've got to ask you a funny question is your wife have type as as you make me really babe you might. You know. I got all kinds right. You can't Black Mamba man but but Kobe. If your baby you know that you know that maybe Lebron's going be whispering that in your ear sure some other players might be whispering that you know I'll tell you what I do not care. What they were? Put Baby was still chopsticks. That's the way to hear it. Let me go to Kogo. Oh hold on hold on John. Kobe manage about one thing. How the Hell did you pass me up points? How'd you do that because we did go crazy? I don't even know where he was at the not come to TNT and and fat ass boggles that you need to worry about the past couple. Well points so. I went to illegally amnesty point so you passed up the Great Michael Jordan last year. What's next for you I mean is this your last year what are you doing? You know. You've got five range. Did you passed up Michael Jordan points. You told me that when he was eighteen years old and I was like okay. Whatever whatever you say little homophobic but you did it everything you said he was GonNa do you did it? What's what's next week Bro? I'm training and getting ready for the season like I can't. I'm really excited about it. Because he stopped twentieth and Over to the end of right I mean twenty years. I mean that's not daily. Could Imagine Plan for twenty years back in the day. I'm getting ready. I'm really excited for this. I was hearing a story. Kobe shack about the two thousand and two Western Conference finals before game seven with Sacramento that there was a phone call and I actually read newspaper accounts that this is out there. That shack call Kobe at three in the morning. Because neither one of you could sleep before game seven first of all. Is that a true your story. That's out there and if there was a three. AM phone call before that game seven. Can you guys tell us what you talked about that. Is that used to be a ball talk like you do that all the time. He's hit each other up at random hours because we understood that we were the engine. That was driving a team so we had to make sure that we were connected. You know at that level. Of course everybody else. So what was said I mean were you like before game seven because I was you guys. If you lose that game in fact that game was hanging in the balance and in hotel you will tell you what was said. I'd say Kobe Ready. He'll be like hello. You Ready. You ready hit them free. Throw a maybe ready so much. More awful lot. Yeah just joking having fun. Yeah that's all this check in with each other cold. You know this series. We'll take turns you you get him this series. I'll get the next year the gun he'd like to do that type of stuff by Cole. You know go kill them. You know they'll get a mysterious take. No this is on you now got now so we used to literally automate of Domino's was the two thousand and four team shack and Kobe the most talented team. Even though you didn't win a championship that year I don't know but the most fun we had the most we had to me. Kobe was first championship. Indiana during the finals. I remember one game I found out. I look up Kobe Kobe. Give me. Don't worry about a big dog. I got you and he came down and hit three or four shots in a row when I was like damn and then and then after that game. That's what I'd say. Let's got the best player in the world because he told me what he was going to do. Because I was like just filed out. WE'RE GONNA lose. There's going to be my father. Gabe Kobe nowhere. Got To know I remember the moment that was That was probably the most important moment For it shocked you got a really tough game. in Dallas and You know miss like eight down the stretch right. Don't La Ms Thirteen. Both players most players would hide some that right like they would look to blamed somebody else or just say no. That's not what causes the loss with. Shag there was this crazy. CAME INTO LOCKABLE IN UTAH. The locker room to peace you. 'cause you pissed news pissed at him so In the accepted the fact that that costs us a ball game. He didn't hide from it and use that to fuel him to become better in lead us to winning championships. And that's something that's set with me. I said okay. He really really cares about this. He's not just going to sit back and just kind of brushed under the rug. Do you think you guys missed an opportunity. Though to be all time because the fact you went separate ways what happened with the two of you then and why didn't work out you know again. Well well I'm about to speak for me. Kobe again. It was just too often sales. And then you know the business aspect kicked in and a lot of people don't know about that but the business aspect kicked in I was getting older so you know management is like. Hey you're getting older. We know you want pissed. We want to give you that and my mom's like I'm not getting older. I don't want that other one and then they just wanted to move in a new direction and see the good thing about about about Dr Bus. You know Kobe said earlier. Dhaka bus to take the face. Dr Bus called me and said this is what we WANNA do this. Well now we're going to accept. We have to treasure. And I always respect the doc the bus for that I have no problems. Covert his family. Because that's how you do business. It's business by others absolutely. I mean it's Kinda he just wants to know the different direction and then I think philosophically needs to imagine how many years with Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain be playing together. You know we will in his prime and Michael wanting to come up and Gloria. How long is that going to let my complicated show analogy analogy? It is. That's why he and I are the most You know it's a one of a kind when it comes to attendance. It's because you literally had to Alpha males playing together on one team and that normally does not happen. What did you learn about your game playing with Shaq Kobe and conversely shack? What was the part of your game that got better because you were playing with a talent like Kobe? Bryant shocks me how to leave because he was. He's amazing you can see you know as he is now. He's he's really outgoing. Kerry puts his arm around guys. You always check in guys. Always making sure that they're good So I learned that from him because I actually wasn't not I wasn't like that and I learned from Kobe. Kobe was a guy that whatever whatever he said he was going to do from age eighteen and he was going to do. I knew that from Kobe because men Kobe we came together. We played on a team. We had a lotta upcoming SUPERSTARS BUT WE WERE IN UTAH. Utah USA kills little. Tom Only one guy wanted to take the shot. I didn't want to take the shot. Nobody will take a shot. It's got took three major shots. He shot airballs. And I knew I was like you know what this guy is not afraid. He's going to be. The mass knew that when I got in trouble when I wasn't playing well I knew that he was going to say shacks plan. I have to step up my game. And and he's like the only way besides Jordan that I've seen do that I don't know what else in ninety nine two things happen. I think shocked realized that You know these kids really competitive. And he's a little crazy and then I realized I probably had a couple of schools lose because I we got in a fist fight. You know actually the man I went home and I was like I got the dumbest or the more courageous kid on the face of the earth. Now that's awesome whereas all documented there was you guys. You guys almost went at it a couple times all the time. We did it all done but see that just showed me that you know this kidding. Go back down no Kobe. Everybody League so like when this kid would stand up every day this giving back I knew then that if I'm down by one one and I'm kicking out somebody he gonNA shoot it and they'll make it so a lot of stuff that would it be out of me while I was Komo with either way. Is there anything that shock. You would like to take back that you ever said in in the in the given. There's there's a lot of things like you just play the clip where I said that I wanted to be traded are definitely do not WanNa leave so you but but you know that's how you gotTa talk only in business you you know especially when you thinking control definitely didn't want to leave a like I know a lot of stuff was said out of the heat of the moment I I guarantee I don't remember a lot of stuff. They said because I changed my thought process of you know what we went. Three out of. Four what the hell are you talking about this not even really a story. It's not really a story. We want three out of four with most talk about. Don't forget we got the NBA Record fifteen gene and one. We should have been went. Sixteen Oh but you man Iverson hit US fifty five we have the NBA. So you told me now. Two guys that got beef is GONNA lead a team in fifteen they wanted a championship has never been heard of. And I guaranteed I record won't be broken for the next thirty years guarantee nobody will ever get dirty. No one ever again for the next thirty years. I promise you that anything. You want to take back Kobe. That was maybe like or anything you want to clarify. Maybe that you said I said this but I didn't really mean that. Yeah well. Here's the thing though. When you say at the time you actually need and then when you get older you have more perspective and you're like holy? That was an idiot as a kid. You know what I mean so to me. Even more important was really just kicking shot right. You don't need to go to the press with stuff you keep internal and we you know we have our disagreements but I think having our our debates within the press with something I wish would have been avoided but it did kind of create this this whirlwind around us as a team with myself and shack and oppressive. It needed that. Just put so much pressure organization But I enjoy playing with him. I had a great great great great time playing and and You know I appreciate it to this day out. Learn so many lessons from this guy like I earlier leadership community and Camaraderie and things like that and I will say shack was a sack was a beef man and he's smiling all the time on. TV and team gregarious personality out. Now that you've nappies. I wasn't at court Kobe. I gotta ask you this question because they tried to do it to me before I left and and definitely definitely no. They always say the next the next shack and all that do you see the next Kobe in the league. Now there is No I'm Kinda older man so clear to have that. Aggressiveness Mentality Aw and then you know. It's a tough tough to tell me that'd be. It's a different generation. I grew up playing against Michael. And you know the GP and all these stone cold sashes town stockton. And all these guys man so you know I had that mentality right. You don't really see that mentality around elite nowadays. Everybody's buddy buddy you know her joking right let me shacks. Shacks told us that he believes the NBA Today. The product is a lot softer then in his day. Do you agree with that hundred percent. I wanted him to San. I've said that before too when we play in the Olympics physicality and the Olympics. Actually they're more physical physical and the NBA. It's the world it used to be the strongest media world and now Is Not that now. I don't know what all the seven seven footers I mean I would. Have you know what happened. Every we killed them all up. That's another crazy. You can go back to when you play. You could name all five six off the top of your head not doing it now. There's only two right so three. They did Phil Jackson play favorites at all. Because I've read a lot wrong number so he never played favorites with because a lot of the press coverage says says that he catered to use shack. Mainly because Jerry West was commented Watson said that he felt that that's what you need. Psychologically he played you know he was you know he was. He was really fair. You know he only got fed up one time and he came in both Fianna to kind of out and that's the only thing he said I mean it wasn't a wasn't no like a caterer situation He seemed like he really did. He really did I. Actually you know what you know what Robert Ory was the whipping boy. Like like you know rob or he's always going to be your whipping which which one you would make the better team executive Don't look at me I know I yeah you know what are you GonNa do. I mean Shaq gashed. You're heading towards the end of your career here. So what does the future hold for Kobe. Bryant right after basketball like what are you going to continue to build these companies man. This is what I'm doing. I fell and in writing A. and editing and producing building their team around that and You know I think he'll storytelling that inspires people in you know challenges The the normal line of thinking of how to accomplish something right healthy restrict fullest potential. That's really intrigued. How do you put those pieces of the puzzle and like I said you know project with news fill up? I'm trying to think what the best team was shacked. You guys played on and I don't want Kobe. Good answer out loud. What was the one? That's the best team by one. Yeah Yup same answer Kobe. Yeah two thousand one Out With my man. Kobe knew me one favor to apologize to your lovely wife for me because every time I see her kids go. Hello Vanessa. Hello kids I'm shake. She says you say that to us every time I just want them to know uncle check like you say that to them every time to which is uh-huh so beautiful you know so cute I gotta go. Hey uncle shack we know who you are saying to us all the time. I promise I won't say that I I got you guys. Realize how much America's going to be shocked by this because this is truly but I know they're not going to be shot. I'll tell y'all we all all the time I've done this Taylor time. It was like a locker room. Disagreements not a real life the Kobe I would tell them all the time I said. Listen I see Kobe and his lovely wife and his beautiful beautiful kids in a restaurant. I'M NOT GONNA throw water face and be like hey co away. But let's say babies and we just move on. Yeah right when I said no man you just Iran article soon. You'RE GONNA kill him. Let's remember that day Kobe. I remember that day I will come on. You couldn't do it. He was like if you seated. You'd be like okay. Jackson killed his kid. The kid is crazy than batch but I mean really his response to that and what America would think that shows how different because you know he keeps telling people listening looked like that. Was it like that In my refined come. I don't care what they think. That's right right I mean. Do you know that's how we drove each of you to drive each other to be champions together and let me ask you one last question shack when you saw Kobe win a title when you're sitting at home watching it on TV and cohost this. Okay you were pissed because no Mahala. I got four I right. So they're the little job and then he had a couple of years then they somehow got power so they got four. Okay we're tied. I'm cool for then he gets is number five and then a reporter feel good that you got one more to shack google. Yeah I got one would've got me Kobe. Did you feel happy for him when he wanted. Miami come on honesty honestly. Yeah I did because I knew he was gonNA push to win more. 'cause I always wanted to get to reimagined was with. Michael was right. So they'll forward or something. I was really on my radar but it pushes even more. I drove even more so when I got follows allows late I just I just had help just kind of turn into a little bit. Good luck in the upcoming season. Kobe yes thank you. Hold hold on one more thing rob dramatic music. Hi wants the dramatic music as he says there it is Kobe. I just want to say I love your brother and I miss you. I enjoyed the Tarzi. Play together where she could have gotten seven championships. But it is was this was still the most respected the most dominant one two punch launch and Laker. History are not going to be talking about this. Yes we are the most dominant one two punch in Laker history. I don't care what nobody else and I love you brother and I miss you. They look this year. I'd rather do you think your daughter Might WanNa play in the WNBA. She does she got this. Wouldn't that be great dude man. I found the best thing the best thing that how go out. It will come up to me and she'll be standing next to me. It'd be like you gotTa have a bore. You GotTa have a boy may have somebody carry on a tradition. The legacy she's like. Oh I got this this got this dear basketball from the moment started rolling. My Dad's tube socks shooting imaginary game winning shots degree Western form A new one thing was real fell in love with you love so deep I gave you my all and from a mind and body to my spirit and so as a six year old boy deeply in love with you and there were Saudi end of the tunnel only so myself in and out of court after every mall so So much played for the sweat and the Challenge calling because everything for you because that's what we do you feel as a live as you've made me feel the Sucio boys later always looking for obsessively for much seasons all I have left give can handle the grind. My Body knows Thomas say goodbye. That's okay Ready to let you go. I want you to know now so we both can savor every moment we have left and given all that both no always be that kid with the rolled up socks. 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The Legacy of Kobe Bryant | 1

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The Legacy of Kobe Bryant | 1

"Bound from wondering. I'm Dan Rubenstein. This is sports was a few months ago when we recorded our series about Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal we never could have imagined the tragic accident accident that would take the life. Kobe Bryant is daughter G G and eight others aboard a helicopter that January morning a few months ago we spoke to bleacher reports. It's Howard Beck. WHO covered those early? Two Thousands Lakers in Los Angeles as a beat writer about that era of Valley basketball and the complicated personalities of Kobe and shack back before during and after that time today to update things and to try and make sense of something that's shocked and devastated l. a. and the basketball world we now bring in Kelvin Washington from spectrum news one and Fox Sports Radio Kelvin. Thank you very much for joining the show. I wish it were different circumstances but I'm looking forward to to this conversation so my question to you first off because I'm across the country and you are swirly in the middle title of La. What is the city like right now as we record this four days after the tragedy of Kobe Bryant and everybody in that had helicopter man? It's been a rough about eight or nine months few including in the loss of Nipsy Russell back in late March of twenty nineteen eighteen. So you had a city that lost someone that specifically in La was kind of an icon. If you will big but I think nationally. His Dan grew grew after his passing Because of the power of social media and people starting to really learn who nipsy Russell was in learn about What he represented in Canada? You you know the ups and downs of the Nipsy Hustle Story and a bit more than anything the inspiration behind him in the motivation. It's this whole thing was hustle and motivate. So I set that up because I tell well you have a city that was grieving and just kind of confusing devastated Ryan fast forward to this past Sunday and arguably the greatest Baker. You could say magic you could say Jerry West you could say. Obviously Kobe Bryant passes. And when I tell you this city is grieving man. I mean if you drive through the streets. You're seeing Kobe. Brian Jerseys for no reason in the sense that there's obviously he's not playing. There's not even the Lakers. Haven't had a game because a cancer game the other day. The city is really grieving. Grieving right now you have. People have nonstop been at Staples Center. People have been showing up every single day especially at night. People come from out of state. You've you've seen people bring Amin infant babies. We're talking three four five months because they want to be able to tell their son or daughter. Hey you are a part of this many years ago when the passing Govan. La Great happened in so it's just been remarkable to see how devastated the city is. Everyone's talking about it. It's really inescapable. Let me let let me step away from this for a moment. Let me let me think of something else. Let me gather my thoughts right and you you you turn to something else. It's there you flip on your twitter. It's their there you turn on your instagram. So the city's really really wounded right now to be honest with you. What is it about Kobe specifically and I ask this as somebody who grew the Los Angeles area who grew up and still is a Laker Fan? So I bring my own baggage to this. But what is it about Kobe to you. That you've seen seen up close now near near the tail end of his career in L. A.. And now obviously with the outpouring of love locally there that you think resonates so much specifically with Angelenos House. Wow you opened up the can there. I think there's a lot number one. He's really the first mega superstar or I comic star. If you're between the ages of probably say twenty eight to about fifty That you saw the beginning a aunt Assuming we're around the same age. Yep You didn't see Jordan from eighty four draught. You know. We you caught on late late eighties ab earliest really the early nineties. And then you start to go on from there okay so you missed that first. Six seven eight years. None of us saw babe. Ruth Wins Z.. Ted Williams Kobe Bryant. You saw a skinny seventeen-year-old coming to a city mind you. This is an era where people weren't coming in the NBA out of high school like this. Now we're used to it. This was rare. You know you had Kevin Garnett the year prior but after that I think it was twenty years Moses Malone was the last guy to do this so you had a kid cernan highschool. WHOA slow down there? Jerry was what's going on here and then you saw him grow the ups the downs the air boss to eighty one points. You saw the. I'm not married to Mary. You saw the no kids to four beautiful daughters you saw the trial and Colorado. You saw everything this man went through and like a family member you went through phases. Where who is this guy? I don't like this guy. Is You know my nerves. Who is he's all about? Check he's airball he's overrated. Why don't we get rid of Laudi to man? He really can score many release defender. I like his confidence. Always too cocky. Wait a minute I love it. Because that's what I I am body. That and they went through the roller coaster ride side of Kobe Bryant. And then you have of course Brought Championships Post Shaquille. O'Neal the city of Los Angeles formed a bomb with Kobe. Bryant like no no other athlete here if you think of Magic Johnson who also had ups and downs in a lot of triumphs and obviously personal tragic situations HIV. Because of that his his career was cut short call me went two decades. He played really in three decades. If you want to say the nineties the to the early two thousands into the twenty tens. That's that's that's insane. One of the names. You mentioned there was Shaquille O'Neal on this series. We talked about the relationship both good and bad the rivalry how they came together for championships The relationship between Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant and it goes from incredible to huge heights to an ugly divorce to two. Okay Kobe's our Guy Shack guy who got traded who you know has this acrimonious relationship with the Lakers to them. Sort of finding peace later on in their careers ears and then in recent years. How do you think everything will affect the way the two of them are linked? We saw something The last few days from Shaquille O'Neal That we've never really seen which Shaquille O'Neal is known for being what Boisterous Funny Andrea Times. Very prideful But we saw a side of shack the other day okay when he and the guys on inside the NBA. They did their thing. That I don't think I know I'd never seen and I would imagine most of have not. And he was so open and honest in in raw and emotional and I think that will add to why they will forever be linked. You'll think of them as of course from the basketball XS and OS. What could have been it right right just like we do a Jordan Jordan? Retired that he does. He win the entire nineties. You wonder those types of things but I think what you also see too is. How fundamentally generally speaking if you're in a relationship I don't care if it's with a girlfriend boyfriend husband? Wife of your foundation is built on the same thing then. There's GonNa be some issues. Do you want children. Would you raise children. Do you actually want to get married. Every one of those people doesn't believe in marriage. Those types of things will affect the relationship and I think when we look look at Kobe and shack will forever be reminded of that. Shaquille O'Neal's approach arm around you. Lovable I'm GonNa have fun with you. Give a nickname for you. Every teammates gonNA have a nickname. We're GONNA hit the club. I'M GONNA. Dj Let's make a rap album. Kobe Bryant. Yeah we'll we'll try to be cool but winning comes first and if I see that you're not about that life they we're going to have some issues sometimes. I'm just GONNA be angry and walking to practice and try to take it up a level and I think will forever be reminded that even with those foundational differences. They were able to win but I think we will always wonder if they were a bit more. Like hey man you guys have a chance to do something. No one's ever done Jordan. Pippen win six. Hey maybe you guys could win. Seven Evan rate will always think about that but this made us realize the importance of certain things in how trivial things can be so having you can have a quick conversation could have been. But I don't think we're going to dwell on as much as we used to because of his untimely passing one of the things that's interesting. Obviously he has this complicated legacy both on and off the court right but even on the court when when you talk about his early adjustments and struggles with the Lakers. You talk about what the years were like between Shaquille. O'Neal and Powell Ghazal you talk about his his the later part of his career where he's making a lot of money that he did earn and is injured. Do you think is the conversation in Los Angeles right now does does it. Include those types of things or because it's it's been so close because it so soon that were sort of just remembering the absolute heights which seems fair there. Oh Yeah we're absolutely riding a high right now But I do think people are telling the story or at least acknowledging the full story of it and to be honest. That's what's remarkable is that I think people again are thinking about the highs and lows thinking about the fact that they're years where everybody favourite check their years remember. Kobe was quote unquote. The rattlesnakes snitching on maybe infidelity with shack. Those are all the things that tell the story of the Kobe Bryant Saga or story. If you will the life of and I think that's important and I think again that's why people are really shocked like man. I went through all of this with this guy and I maybe even question. Are we Hurting or crippling the franchise when we give him all of this money and he's already been injured and we look at his age but I think that's also why you saw the Lakers. Not Respond Monitor. Put out anything for a very long time longer than you would have expected because it's a family run organization. Jeanie Buss doesn't look at Magic Johnson. Just a guy for former labor. We like him. We love him but she looks at him as a brother literally. They look at Kobe. Bryant as a brother or son depending on the person in the organization the age and I think they can also justify now in his passing saying now. Do you see why we were willing to pay him more than you thought. He was worth at that age. More than you know. Maybe get hurt us for a few years but do you see why we did it. It's because he was this remarkable this one of a kind in this much to a city that sometimes just worth paying the dollar amount when yes we might lose it on the back end or he may you know be injured or we may obviously you've seen had made the postseason in seventy eight years or whatever it is but over on the totality of the span of our existence. Our business it was worth investing in this man. Some things are bigger than basketball. One one of the things I don't know if people quite understand and I'm sure you can speak to a better than I can but from when I was in L. A. is Los Angeles is a huge city. It's a sprawling spread out city. It's a diverse city. People there are a number of people. There's a huge and overwhelming number of people that are from other places other than Los Angeles us who come out to the city to do whatever largely in the entertainment industry. Would it be fair to say that the Lakers. If not at the top of this list are the idea of being a Laker fan is is a fabric that brings together all of these sort of disparate ideas and disparate people in this enormous city. One one of the great things about a great brand is that it will tie people together or at least interest people when maybe they're not fully connected so have the luxury of being born and raised here. I think you have a couple of brands that you can stick to right like you grow up a dodger fan. Even if you're not diehard baseball your dodger fan and and obviously if you're going to be a basketball fan you're going to be a Laker fan say for my Old Co host Marcellus Wiley. Mr Mr Clipper himself south. But most people you grew up a Laker fan that brand transcends. La just talking about this with somebody on twitter. We're growing up into Detroit area. When the Lakers came to town it wasn't hair you go into sea legs it was? They was up a going to Kobe. Tonight you ever go see Kobe night. Like the or we're going to see the Laker brand and they transcend the city of the region so when they came in town it was ridiculous anyway. We had a pissing game or a Laker game. What is going on here? You'll be offended and do you. One of my best friends. Drove me crazy. Because he was the biggest diehard Lakers fan but then we realized it was a Kobe Fan. which by the way? There's something there to Dan. A and there is a such thing as a Kobe fan and then Laker fans but the difference Well I think what happened was again in Kobe. Bryant's emergence in just the way he did it as a young skinny kid air again you know and then obviously becomes it. The talent matches the arrogance. You're like Oh oh shoot okay and I think you've got a lot of people. They had so long to be a Kobe fan that they thought they were Laker fans. Obviously you're not necessarily talking to the person who's from here per se. Although there are a lot of them. They became such Kobe fans that they weren't necessarily fully Laker fans. And there's a lot of people like that And I'll give you a great example if you're a Laker fan and you have the Opportunity Score Love Ryan James. You think you'd be excited about the argument. Best Player in the game arguably top one-two-three the three ever people were at I was on radio locally here. Am Five seventy and also nationally with Fox sports radio when Lebron was becoming a topic of conversation for being a possible Acre and. I can't express you that how many people were like no. We don't want him. We don't want him. We don't want boo. He's not this he's not that and it was because because of they were Kobe Bryant fans that it didn't want to be you know for Lebron they come Be just because they didn't want that mixture because obviously for the last ten years that's been the the biggest rivalry in sports. You thought it was Yankees Red Sox you thought it was due North Carolina Michigan. Ohio stadium was Lebron Kobe. That's been the biggest rivalry but that LAKER brand to get back to my point Lakers mandate they transcend their the thing to do you move here. You want to go to a Laker game and I have had the fortune of working for ESPN LA seven. Ten here And locally which is the home radio home the Lakers and now working with the spectrum networks. This is TV network for the Lakers. When people coming down what do you think their first question is when when when they reach out to me? Can I go to a Laker game. Yeah can I get Lakers tickets and and it's just one of those things it's the place to be. It's the thing to be seen that it's an and I think it's just a remarkable brandon. I think Kobe Bryant had massive role in and just you know over the last two decades globally at that that the big football game you know which one is almost here so will the niners defense continued to dominate. Will Patrick Mahomes in his electric chief. Offense continued to be too much to handle. I bet you've got opinions. So what are you waiting for head on over to mybookie dot. Ag To make your predictions a reality mybookie bookie is one of the most trusted in the industry. If you're looking for a sportsbook to make some bets for any sort of sporting event over the spring mybookie is where you wanna ago and football's not your thing no problem my bookies got it all from the NBA to the Premier League. They've also got the fastest payouts best promotions and very helpful twenty four seven customer service team you can even pull your bets together for a bigger payout. 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And as a human that nobody can relate a two and then in these last few years it seems that he appeared to be more human and more relatable. And maybe that's because of his daughters because as of the fact that he's a sports dad is that recent reliability almost one of the the reasons one of the bigger tragedies and reasons why people are so struck by. How really awful everything that happened? Sunday was yes and I also also mentioned I was grateful and I know this is gonNA sound a little crazy but that his passing happened now versus five years ago three years ago because I think on a personal level for him personally his family personally they were fortunate that dad didn't have to be the maniacal basketball player. You're right we all know his workout his regiment. And I remember we always like to say Colby Michael Jordan man. They work hard and everybody. That's what we'll pause because Phil Jackson accent once said everybody says that about Michael Jordan and his workout wasn't saying as well and he really loved the game but Michael at hobbies Michael Gambled Michael enjoyed cigars. Michael enjoyed a party here. There Michael enjoyed golfing probably was much as tiger woods. Correct he said. Kobe doesn't have a hobby. This is all he does no. I don't know the Bryant family but I've been grateful for them that he had these last three four years where he was able to not just be that maniacal basketball yes that same approach at work work ethic was applied to his business ventures but the fact that he was able to be even more a dad a husband more of a family man. I will argue your point Abid in that. Even while he was playing I do think he was relating to people being. I'll tell you why I guess. He had millions of dollars. The the difference is he never stopped the blue collar work ethic and I think the people could relate to that. Here's this guy who's on top of the world has it all getty's working like a coal miner in Virginia and he felt like there was some type of connection or he felt like a relatable person because of that. So if you mix in the blue collar aspect and then again because of The last few years with this with his children with his family more often it just seemed like he popped up more in interviews. You know he really become the side of him. You didn't see was all it wasn't always the snarling growling. I gotta add a defeat and kill my enemy. He became why Kobe's actually actually funny became. Wow look at him with his daughter and I think people started to have a personal relationship with his family even more are you really started to know his daughters. Not only just because you new Kobe. Dot If you're actually started no them individual. That's a new daughter in another of this one. Plays basketball this. When plays volleyball while they're so beautiful they look like they're mommy look like Kobe? And I think you start again informed this relationship with him that You know in his family which made it feel like your family With again why this you know the passing of Kobe and his daughter to be honest with you. That was the hardest part was I remember in real time. I'm sitting in of all places a game show audition blunk story when our time for that and I'm sitting there and I get an email from the boss is saying this is kind of how we're gonNA handle this this Kobe passing time Koby like Oh man somebody hack Mombasa's email and then on my phone I get a A call from you know. CNN peabody's to do some work over there and they're like can we have you on to talk about this and I'm like way okay. This is two different news sources so this must be real and I remember being in a room with hundreds of people in kind of thinking and do I say something. I don't know I. I literally froze. I didn't know what to do. But you see somebody in the back on their phone and you'd see them they'd Mouth Occurs Word or that quickly put in somebody else's face and it was just I see like it was almost like a contagion of Germans. They just spread through the room to the point where I had to speak to the people running it and tell them. Hey you know with what I do prefer freshen wholesome anchor. I need to me to leave and the lady had attitude. I know what's going on because she was so fragile. This was such breaking news. It's so massive and it was gonNA affect her responsibilities in her just trying to handle her job right. She's just frantic. Frantic snapped at me and she didn't mean to and she was emotional and and then and then I had people saw us talking about it out in the back and I remember it was weird like I. I don't want to be the bearer of this new that I also didn't want people to be walking around laughing clueless so I remember some woman in a family. Were walking by kind of like looked at us like what is it. Was This commotion and I just Kinda showed them the headline Kobe Bryant dead and I remember in to something you said earlier. I'm surrounded by white. Wipe people Hispanic Latino black people are many people everybody this is a roomful of hundreds of people. And when I tell you I don't care air what ethnicity what age in I saw people affected. I saw people crying. I saw people holding up another person. I saw people in disbelief. I mentioned the Eric I had to go live on the air that night for five hours and I mentioned the five stages of grief and I saw people going through that in real time. I saw No Year right. It know what fate what disbelief I saw. No no throwing stuff anger. I saw peer. Just refund sadness. I saw some people in not quite that immediate moment but eventually get to the place of of acceptance updates in saying man you know what he lived a great life man you know op Colby Kobe. That's why you saw people at Staples Center that they were more except maybe not at full on acceptance but just you know what. Let's turn this into a celebration of life. It was remarkable man. It was one of the more out of body experiences I've ever had and I personally did did not know Kobe like that. I was going to say. Were you surprised at that. Level of emotion at that look at how widespread it was it. Los Angeles is a big city with a lot of famous people with a lot of people. Doing a lot of what they believed to be important. Things you're not from La but you've spent a lot of time here. was that at all surprised prized you. Just how much everything paralyzed the city. So you have to include a couple of things. So he didn't died. Sixty seventy eighty ninety. The man in just tweeted the night before to Lebron James Right. We all went to bed with that tweet and we woke up the next morning. He's gone and for me personally. I had a friend pass similarly in that on Christmas his family my family multiple fans were altogether celebrating the holiday that was a Thursday Sunday. The lions were playing the packers and were texting as a group tax. Were high they suck you suck. Hi We're having a great time. That Sunday Sunday night he passes. I don't know until Monday. They said hey by the way. CC passed away. What are we talking? We were texting last night. All of them were laughing at the game. Saying the lines. Sut What are you talking about these. What do you mean he's dead? The same thing happened personally for me with Kobe. Remain Kobe Tweet last night. What he would the suddenness in what she she passed the way in which he passed in the last part was when we found out? Jessie was with him. Yeah in that just took it over the top. It's bad adding to die with one of his children on Tab that it was the one that seemed to be. His side was rolling with them. Not that you love anyone any different levels of love they have more of the same interests as you. Unique bonds unique bonds and. I think that's what added to why you're seeing it resonate with people and I think there's a part of him more than maybe any the other athlete. I'm trying to dare I say ever. That was built own resiliency so you thought he was a teflon man like coat. Nothing could break Kobe. Bryant the man shot free throws with a torn Achilles in walked off in came back the man had broken fingers and play broken. This broke the man flies. Germany they suck out blood out of his knee and he comes back. So it's like that band died. What do you mean heck? We make people bull bigger and larger than life. But you just didn't expect him to go like that. This soon add onto his daughter add onto other children they were just simply going. A basketball game is very tried introducing. So you WANNA be President with Chris Matthews a new podcast from MSNBC VC. The twenty twenty election is heating up as candidates vying for their party's nomination. But what does it take to win. Chris Matthews breaks it down in a new podcast. So you WANNA be president. Matthews talks with campaign veterans. WHO HAVE had front row seats to presidential history about six timeless themes that separate the winners from the losers? It's all in the new podcast. So you WANNA be President with Chris Matthews search for it wherever you're listening right now subscribe and make sure you stay tuned for a special preview preview at the end of this episode a group of people that obviously Kobe resonated with as well was current. NBA Players Current NBA stars. That Kobe was was very very generous with his time. Who left a mark on them in a way that I don't when you look at what Michael Jordan did after his career he hung it up and he went about his business? He got involved in a front office and he didn't really give himself in the same way to other players to the next-generation sort of trying to bring out killer instincts trying to bring out a competitive side of players that they didn't already have he. Kobe was giving tricks of the trade trade away because of a love of basketball. To what extent did you even know that was going on that. He had this sort of impact on players players across the country in the NBA. Something that really did differ from Michael Jordan. Well I I knew this for some time. I don't think there's been secrets that you know. He he himself. Alf Win in. Hung with Akeem allows you on. What are these postings? How're you doing this? He himself would speak to other players and watch this in any other sport to wasn't just basketball. He would speak to other athletes around the world and not just men. He would spend his time champing. Championing Women Women. I mean he would literally just tweet. Hey I'm at this game. Hey this college basketball player or high school bus unknown girl. What an amazing feat and just he made it a point point to where you go? Wow He really is interested and invested in other people where Lebron brought guys up with them. I think different that I mentioned Shaquille O'Neal earlier bringing in guys along with Kobe was will maybe. This is my way of connecting. This is my way of spending time. He was the gap between Jordan Jordan. Lebron so maybe wasn't as friendly and open with all these people like Lebron but he wasn't as Off in the hillside like Jordan. You know where we don't really see him but once whatever some celebration Jordan pops up or some random interview. So He's a bridge. The gap between these eras where you shut up and you make your money. Don't say much. Don't rock the boat But you'd maybe not quite as vocal as this new generation. Where the tweet everything? They say everything they speak from the heart all the time. He seemed to be this perfect bridge between different eras both socially and in the game XS and Os on the court as well. So I think thank you were able to kind of dissect in separate what you saw on the court ruthless cutthroat killer with the man who loved the game so much that he wanted to continue the always talked. What about the game being a good place right if it goes Jordan to Kobe? Lebron you I don't know of any league could ask for such better leaders and You know to to continue to push their game forward and I think Kobe's just that were guys looked up to him from the business in from again the actual XS and Os. Hey how do you. What's your footwork like? How do you do that? How did you get these pills? How does every freaking breaking year? This man find a new move. Did you remember with his era of like all of a sudden shooting stuff left handed all the time. What the hell is that like? He just kept getting better. That's a lot to mature even in our own personal life so bad that maturity level to realize there's areas where you can continue to get better and grow and I think he disembodied that in guys respected that final question. I guess I'll go back to something from your first answer. In that saying Kobe's career Kobi's life really started and ended all within a certain certain generations. Time looking at the public spotlight. Do you think because of the way both the NBA is both because of what the world is with. You know all things being online all things social media Is it hard to imagine. Somebody's life in somebody's impact and somebody's career looking like what Kobe's look like especially resonating with a single place like Kobe. Did with Los Angeles. Will you mentioning the single place. Part eliminated a a lot of people I think. Now because of the money the mobility The business an awareness of in brand. I think maybe no one. We'll have that you know. Maybe if Tom Brady we find out here in a week or two or something retires but also don't think Tom Resonates quite as much because he's very the cliche. I know nothing about Tom Brady. He's never really stood up for anything he's never really said anything shoot. He doesn't even dissing other player at times he hasn't talked about. I had to punch another teammate. I mean we went through all of this koby in. I think that's why he'll resonate more than A. Tom Brady in the Boston area but I do think there's something with the way. Lebron was the first to become like the social media where he came in just before social media takes off it starts to take off halfway through his career and we liked Kobe. Seen Him from high school kid and we actually saw his high school game. We didn't see Kobe's. We saw the Bronx High School Games. We've grown up with brawny and Bryce in his children and his wife and We saw his friends go from just guys who are those friends and other millionaire businessman. We've seen him grow. Schools little schools speak out about social injustices so I do think Lebron could be like that but it will be different in the endearing of deer men of one city. But I do think Cleveland will embrace him because he's being from the Northeast Ohio area and no matter what always still ripping that so heavily. Do think there's that but the but other than that. I don't think we will just think times are different. My stepfather scrape works for the plant in Detroit. The auto plant one of them. We're talking fifty one years. I believe this year will be fifty one and fifty two years. There was an era of working forty fifty sixty. That was the thing to do. Do now if you're with the company in five years especially if you're in sales and market other places. It's almost like we're like what's going on. Why are you they look at you wrong? What's wrong? My wife is in sales and it's almost like a weird bad thing. My best friends in advertise. It's a bad thing. I don't know if we're ever GonNa see where you stay at one place that long and mind you. Here's the other key component. You have to be good to great to all time greats to make it matter as much because dirt did it. En- Dirk is an all time great right but he's not on Kobe's level right and he also doesn't have the story lines at Kobe. So I said it's a long way of saying probably not. I don't know if we'll see this again. I don't know if any will have this magnitude. Is Kobe did especially in the sports world because of the legacy that he left in one time on city not to mention you can't forget the franchise he left it with. This is the Los Angeles Lakers. They are already iconic and he took it to greater heights to where Magic Johnson said is the greatest Laker of all time. And in with everything given you probably hard pressed to disagree with that on that note Calvin Washington. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it in the you know the the Mama mentality is GonNa live on man and and I think people are going to embrace that mantra in any facet of life doesn't matter it could be parenting. It could be you you know. An insurance salesman would ever be the person who needs that. They need to lose weight. That mob mentality is gonNA live on forever. And I think it's only going to grow. That was my conversation with Kelvin Washington once again anchor for spectrum news one in southern California and you can hear his work nationally on Fox sports. It's radio for our next series. We're going to be re airing our story about Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal in light of Kobi's tragic passing. It's a story about about the downs of these two legends. 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I Yeah I mean is very tragic very sad but I'm a lot better now than I was when it first occurred I can agree And I think it's because of the community that we we have That was was that was one thing that I think helped me a lot with seeing everybody kind of beat up for each other whether it was twitter while it was just us an xbox spots party whatever. It's a lot easier to to deal with when we all deal with together and we were able to see everybody on twitter Kinda more together and we've seen a lot of people just doing the right anything You know some things that happened In a process of all this that were kind of distasteful. But you know I think as a community we didn't allow it to Foley. Get our attention to dig it at some people's attention for a quick second you know would would news news places reporting the wrong information to try to be the first I in media is very distasteful. Whatever false people you know being brought into like rick fights and other daughters and whatnot and then we also had moments where you know? After we mourned and dealt with Kobe. We were able to take out the other people who also with them on the the Helicopter which I think was very important because there there were more than two lives that were lost and more than one family that was impacted by this and then you know it was as good the NBA do do some things that were You know honorable. We see a lot of different players a lot of different things. Lakers and clippers game as postpone. We've seen trae young. Bring out the number eight. I liked the carbonate. Put The ball at the free throw line where he broke Jordan's record. It was the last two. The three days have been tragically beautiful in the NBA. Just a few hours after the news broke through the rockets versus rockets versus chace. I Game I'm pretty sure like it happened. And then people are starting to find out because it was pretty much up in the air force higher our after. TMZ tweeted like. It can't be true. Were they had all of this. And then what. I'm saying chysler beautiful as seeing the players mourn like like death is the hardest take to deal with in the entire world so like it's weird to see players actually have to go out there and play. I know it is their job. And that's what what they're paid to do but to see Tyson's handler on the bitch bent as hurt as he was. Because you got this just hours after everybody found out and then we got Austin rivers verse Pisa Tucker All these great photos of people warning is tragically beautiful. It was it was just hard to watch them. Go out there and play knowing what they the heartbreak that they're going through. It was just like I thought. Maybe we can't sort of games but then I also realized that at least that game was too short notice like literally came out when negative Megan by the start they can have just stopped everything. The saddest thing for me. Is that the videos that we're seeing right now. The games that we have access to who is the only Koby will ever see again right like Hobie his NBA career. LAVIGNE's trying to think about this over the past few days trying to get my words right because I don't really no how to explain my relationship with Kobe. I wasn't Kobe was not my favorite player because he was so high up there. It was like being Lebron being your favorite player. Of course you love Lebron because abroad is great at the craft of basketball. And that's the way I felt. Were Kobe as well but I started to become a Kobe fan outside of basketball because of the things he did after his retirement as far as like the deer basketball or just seeing all the different interviews were were him being a family man or seeing the videos and stuff like that and that's the only the only piece of Kobe we have left is kind of a sad thing saying that we won't see him. Get another Oscar. Put out another schofield documentary. Things like that. It is sad but you know one thing that I am happy about. Is that one thing I can say about. Kobe is that he definitely definitely got his flowers while he was still here a year and that was a good thing to see both numbers retired. They didn't have to wait to anything. Like this happen. you know. He digged grammy him in check. You know we're able able to reconcile their differences or not so I was. I was happy to think on those things we do have a lot of moments to hold on. It's cherish You know they. They ran a sixty point. A game last night is last game they have they have that type of material to to always be able to put out. We've got twenty years of basketball from him. Yeah so it is a lot out there. Basketball is not just like Some of these guys we watch and it's like oh he's good but he's on his bad teams. You know what I mean. He doesn't have have like these moments was acting on the Bulls. But he's giving you exactly mean just put up forty four million in twenty years. He gave it all so not really inspiration to me when I reflect back on it. Though you know I I wanted to walk like him. I wanted to talk like him. I WANNA at the free throw line. And that's my fingers Alfred Alfred Jerseys off by Jersey. Just like him and he's gone now. You can't even wasn't Kobe. The person that got you into basketball the reason why I like Kinda amount of my game after him I wanted to post. I wanted to take those tough shots. And I wanted to take the lash out of the game issues their fierceness he he had that competitive nature. And I'm never really dragged him and he's still going to be like an icon in the to our next generations they play is still going to look up town. Try to mold their game after him you could still see today in the NBA players that they all got their game from him. And as I said we won't get to see He's he's one of the very few people in all sports that got a farewell tour. Think about that and all of sports we've had so many so many great athletes throughout the history. It was a real farewell to. We're like every every single place was we have pack nights coby. Coby are Frank Hiran spit so so much money to see Kobe's last game here's a Kogyo and is like he. Even before call. We passed away. He always said that he never regretted spending a whole paycheck and a half because that was his favorite player in ECE impact. The hair like me appears uncle. NUKII was never a basketball fan but he loves Brian. He loved him Kobe Bryant. And that's just say it's always deeper to basketball. Today's I've been on social media and I seen people are never talk about basketball for bring up Kobe. Bryant and Inspiration Gratien an impact that he had on the. Yeah Yeah It was Kobe was like definitely to When I was introduced to Basketball Cope I mean Michael Jordan was still in the game and we still impactful but for me? Kobe was the first person that I attach myself to. On my own and Ya Yeah I had every shoe I still remember the day that I got. The Jersey still have his Jersey from when I was a kid. I May I had the Kobe's on Now I have. I have wow stories about getting Kobe. I remember that Jersey that I have now. It's the white one at the Lakers. Weird like where to White Jersey. But that had just came out and I I still remember wearing to school In the second or third grade I got. I got a purple one but I couldn't fit the purple ones on all back to the mall. Exchange Exchanger for biggest is and she would call me. They only have the white when I was like they have the The White One yes yes of course when I remember get into school and people like Bernie just just they just played in this. How did you get it I remember Some particular call came out and I had you know kid I want them real bad and I have promised my auntie that I would like more lawn for like sick of crazy amount of time to get the shoes and she got me and then she moved soon after that. So I never really hyper dunks. Yeah Horiuchi K.. Fours my favorite shoe and I guess because Kobe I got Kobe's right now in a room proto ones that I'm going to cherish We just got a lot of memories man. We just did. It's funny because we just hit the all-star Promo I for Twitter Koby. Yeah a lot of a lot of my moments were Koga moments besides down contest but yeah y'all we will see that of course and into a dress that a lot of those clips that come out. They're not from a show to just strictly. Because I know another one we'd be recently came out and people were the accident. One is that episode so just so it isn't any confused. Yeah just strictly Promo twitter clips that we do When recording his Yeah it was good to see that they want a game. How you feel about that? The Lakers Cuba's getting because that was a very emotional sat. And I think about it would have been. I'm happy that the players are getting time with the grievous counselors and everything like that because we can go down a list of every NBA roster and everybody had been impacted by Kobe. Either directly or in some way or y'all have a personal favorite moment of Salata moments and it came from the game that that was aired again. The sixty point game. It's after the after the game was over. He looked over at his family and and he did this smile. And then a pan to the girls and all of them were super excited for and that that moment. I couldn't watch the six game yesterday yesterday. I couldn't. I couldn't bring myself to do it because it would have brought too many too many emotions but clip resurfaced on twitter again and it's of do breakdown video. And he's at. It ended the game when coach Gordon Hayward stepped into the lane. It's just in case. Kobe didn't get sixty hill. Inhaler cleared that up on twitter. He was saying that that does not true really and he also says on the last day. That's not what Kobe would have wanted anyway like Hobie. OBI wanted to make their free throw. You don't WanNa he want a second chance to hit his sixty and that wasn't some do and I believe that was Mike to recall it. was somebody up there. It is I mean if you look at it. Looks like Gordon Hayward even looks at the ref so my favorite moment is when both games against the raptors one one when he drops eighty one and then the other one when he dropped when he. I'm just hitting off caution when he bringing baggage jobs yeah when they would seem like that game was over he just willed them back to win. I guess you saw awesome in that last game against. Utah's well with that. Look like the game was over. He legit just will come back to win. It's crazy. He would do that young and then on his last game of his career he was still able to just will his team to a with. It's just so many moments in include shots that I consider all my all time favorites favorites but if I had to pick one I would say when he tore his Achilles and you had the injury but he was back in the two free throws. Yeah that's that's like an moment moment. Fines were Kobe. Bryant is because you see people turn to Achilles and they can't walk ups fall and it's the fact that he was able to stand up literally wheels himself back. What what about you did you say? You're a mafia moments just a moment from a kid Robert Horry launches the inbound pass after May frito. He wraps around honoree nuggets. Yeah I was just like I as a kid I just thought that was the coolest Shit in the world and that was just like you can't even practice that and that's just like like it just happens sometimes. You just WANNA basketball court. You just do some shit. You don't even know what you did what you just did it. That's what makes basketball so good. It's it's instinct of sport where sometimes you can't practice things muscle memory instinct to do it and you just do but my girlfriend asked me yesterday yesterday she said how long do you think until the NBA is back to normal and my answer to her was like it won't be until I think I mean. Obviously nobody's GonNa ever forget Kobe but it won't be back to normal until after I think his hall of fame induction like later this season. We're like I'm not the Lakers are building something for them because they were GonNa do it whether he passed away. You're not you're exactly I think the NBA will be as close to normal as possible after that but every night. We're going to feel like we're missing. Kobe yeah I agree. I think we are going to get the point. Everybody's come to terms eventually 'cause that's just what happens. You know what I mean you know supposed to happen but it's GonNa be tough so especially because we have a lot of things coming up so I can't imagine the most all star weekend like Yes all star weekend people are Kinda GonNa. You're gonNA hit a place. Where twitter is you? Don't go on twitter every day and it's all over your time but then all of a sudden gonna come back and then you get back and Dan you know. The Lakers are GonNa make the playoffs for the first time since I don't know when you know and they have a chance to win the final so if they win the finals and then you're going to have that that moment that you and have the hall of fame that you're saying so it's going to be a lot of things that have to happen is going to be the oldest the first playoffs but alcober. You know what I mean so once those things happen happen I think Everybody will you know come to terms but yeah something that we're never gonNA forget. You know what I mean. That's FAG. We're never gonNA forget it but there will be a time After a while we're you know it's it's Kinda a Lotta. Kobe highlights Yesterday and it just got me thinking when we talk about best crossovers. We think the REAS- Tim Hardaway but he had a killer crossover visit attack with their cross. The Janka we had very if he hits you probably GonNa get dumped bounce. Are Y'all eight or twenty four guys. I think I'm the twenty four guys. I saw mostly twenty four. I didn't see much with A. He was a killer but the twenty four huge leg. He was an assassin on my eight low haircut Paul Shannon just ripping through like the creation of the Mamba Dyke and I'd much Parkway Brown move out the way what I noticed about Kobe. That people people under his passenger building but his bill was really good when he actually chose to like his mikey through through times when he did pass the ball they were dying Dan. Yeah he's He's assist boy so I mean. What do you ever just Okra game too bad? That was I. Don't think you you know I think people are just always nitpicked. You know if I had this officer Billy I wanna pass that much either. Let's be passed a lot. Five five or six per game the average and this year career. That's amazing. Yeah for for a secondary gar usually I love that. NBA Twitter came together together for for for one cause of the last couple of days like when they air to sixty point game last night everybody was tweeted like we were back in back in twenty six teen. Were they were like man. This de Ngelo Russell key looked like he can be an all star one day or you know just everybody came together to just be be fans at Kobe gear. And those are the things that I was speaking to earlier. That helped this process because I get a lot of messes dams like man. I I know you guys are going through a hard time. Oprah here bro Blah near was but you know after wow I just wasn't on twitter because I'm merely really didn't have anything say in because I didn't feels like every time I go on twitter. I see oh Kobe so I was just needed a time. No decompressing take a step back from the. I was actually disappointed and upset at certain points. I'm like man I need. I need to get y'all S on xbox WANNA play the game with the guys that just want to get away for inches team do something just stay was so hard was it was and I don't think so I got on later then. Yes yes actually my me and my gig later tonight but like the couple hours after like I was in the Middle Grind out these challenges for my team we all and then you see like Odyssey fake and then eventually it starts out more and more that Israel. It's like I didn't I didn't touch control. I like three hours. I'm in the middle of a talent and I just. I didn't have the will to do anything I was on a phone either. Call my parents. it just it was just like a superhero kind of somebody that felt like he was gonna play forever and then eventually live forever in my day. Call my mom you know. He talks dot com downs. That was crying and then Me and my girl had a day planned to go to the movies and I had already bought the tickets or not and I cancelled that because I just wasn't in the mood to be in a movie theater so we just went to cheesecake factory and that helped just to go out in public and be you know normal Komo can live life at times definitely seen just a reminder of their life is still going on still doing what they do and it's not at the end of the world is that keeps you going exactly keeps you go on that one clip of his interview where he is I two interviews. where it's like? It's like he's sent the Dow from from having habit right the one. I'm thinking about where he was like. You gotta put one foot in front of the other smile and keep today that one really really helped and then the other one he was like. I'm sorry I can't be here Yeah that does clips are keep watching them because they make me feel sad but good at the same time and you can definitely tell like it felt like the world or just like stopped for a few minutes. I could just everything about twenty years just like basketball basketball basketball. Now he's GonNa move move on and take on a whole new just challenge and it was starting to come back to basketball with G. G. Office and you Kinda Women's basketball team did for her was amazing that brought tears to my eyes again yesterday when I saw that. I don't know anything else. I just say you know just in case we take a break in switch years or whatever because we can talk about this for five the next five episodes being quite honest. You know just to give the condolences and the recipes to everybody that was impacted. Because again we don't want to get on here and just talk about coby and G G uh-huh because it was other people in other families impacted by it and so we have Kobe Brian in G G obviously recipe them. And we have John Altobelli Altobelli. who was the father of teammate? Eliza we carry ultimately. I hope I'm pronouncing and Enron's and then we have altobelli Kelly so as a teammate in both her parents Notaro yes We have Christina Mouser. who was a coach each and then we have Sarah Chester? Who is the mom of Peyton? WHO's a teammate of digi? And then we have Payton who was. Gee gees teammate. Any Pain Chester. And then we have the pilots Ara Zo buying So you know recipes them recipe prayers blessings and love to their families families. One last thing for me at least the mob mentality. There's the there's the book that I found like. I didn't even remember that. I had that book and he talked about what everybody said. They live Mama mentally morality but nobody really a lot of people. Couldn't explain what the mob mentality was and so I had to go through that book again and reread. What had actually men? And it's about the journey and Kobe's whole life was a journey and he he always gets his point so living with mob mentality is not just getting to whether you want to make it to the NBA A or want to be on TV. Talk Sports. It's about the journey and the practice you put in to get to that angle. So in that case everybody tabled living with the mob mentality whether they thought it or not because we work. I asked to do this show and we're still going to. It's this is where we want to be. And if if everybody watching this show can use the mob mentality everybody. Everybody will end up being successful. And that's great because it just deepen a basketball. That was another thing that this is so significant for that it is deepening deepen a basketball. Because we sit up here you know people on twitter debate him verse him numbers them and then you get to see you. See something like this happening is all that doesn't matter tone. A sitting up. Here analysing why this guy should be an all star in. This guy should be an all-star just immediately doesn't matter the game you know what I mean but it's much more even in basketball. Ask because like you said people that you've never seen talk about basketball was talking about it. people who don't even watch basketball know about this. They know they know who called Ryan Ryan knees and they're saddened by this tragedy tragedy And that's just is always you know it's unfortunate that this has to happen to be a reminder but it's always good to have reminded it is deepening basketball and that you know not to take anything for granted and whatnot But I I just. I'm just happy to you. See everybody coming together. See some positivity See people be there for each other. Having a community that we all can can lean on in and have buy side and I was happy to see people coming together. You know whether it was to be ebor means anybody but you know we saw people doing tastes with things but youtube and creaney's videos and different things clicks i. I was able to see other people. You know of a higher magnitude call people out and in keep hold people responsible for what they're doing and that was good to see I just like seeing everybody come together and make something like this much more easier for me to go through when I see everybody body being there for each other and and having that piece positively and love and hopefully it can be something that we can build on and keep going forward mm-hmm and Yeah I love all y'all and Yeah is going to be okay. It's GONNA be okay. This is going to be okay so just say it's going to be okay. I think bill for life anytime. I'm playing basketball. I got You know Kobe effort yeah. I don't know if y'all can expect no more pets. I don't even want to get into I car the best player Steven Kerr hard. Your best guy. He's like a key when things like this happen for me. I need to be around kids like I like being around because they have no idea what's going on so they're just being themselves. Whatever it is just that type of person he just saying stuff energy for me so But go into a break his break I really go to verse. I break recipes. Kobe recipes G G recipes. All the other seven passengers talk about basketball no problems. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems inspire hire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT com slash. Smart to learn more ever been knocked down. You know suffered a setback. Fired left out it happens. It happened Mike. Bloomberg Middle Class Kid works his way through college. 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I Johnny Start from yesterday or Carr's yesterday's games were was obviously we have all the things for Koby That we talked about already but the actual things that are happening on core. I would rather talk about we talk about yesterday just because Sunday was so be. Okay so yes they have a few good games like I WANNA start off with this kings ten game because it. It doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things right and I. I love watching games. He's which is like me and people watching this game and the Bulls game together towards the end of it and this is fun to give reactions like what we talked about this last week. But the timber awards have it. They're not mental him yes he went into Kobe. I saw the king's trail the timberwolves by seventeen points with two minutes. Forty nine seconds left in the fourth quarter since one thousand nine hundred six hundred ninety seven the first year play by play data. NBA NBA teams. The answered down by seventeen at that point. We're an eight thousand three hundred seventy nine. Yeah Wow yeah but the king taken even beat down and then I was waiting for the timber wolves twitter to tweet the final stats or whatever and the replies. Oh man I feel so bad for those fans man. They've been hurt if as long that we did see from this. When we was watching was crazy weakens that was killing defense? Not a fan of the shot. He took two in the game. The fadeaway out of sixty seconds left. And there's like Komo off the catch fading out of bounce. Three point shooter down stretch. I wanted to see a little bit more from towns too much at seven turnovers turnover. Police the FRITO thing is that like accidental or is that on the teams. They didn't box out. Yeah they didn't box out. The deer Fox was is crazy. That's going to be in his highlight. Reel also think he was just two quick. Hey I think tim awards. Wasn't expecting to anything. Everything went right for him to do it. You also Josh. Kogi had the same exact chance and he he missed a chance to redeem any missed. That's a hard thing due to hit the rim perfectly to come back to you. Yes so it's so hard to do when it does happen. It's a simple thing as putting basket call. He was right there he just it. Just we've had plenty coaches in the past like who got shoot at the freedom. Nobody has suitor it happened. It happened three times five Zero Fox. One was made the Marta rose. And Damn they beat the booze and then Josh Kogi simple fundamentals. And it's one night. Ah The night Dan McCain and a half minutes yup he had a great steal at one point two points six eight minutes but he talk doc about negative seventeen at never mind him. He would retire me Bill Metro stock. Because you get that one defensive stop that we saw. He was so high whereas good that even though. He requested a super high for his teammates. Yeah that's it's an amazing comeback in a game that don't matter at all no matter hit a big shot on wing longest to thought it was a three two can be as more intolerance over there that forget about fifteen game cool fun game. Katie said really didn't mean much. I thought these Jazz Games Pretty Fun. The most disappointing game tonight. Ah No I thought it was. It was started out because I was like. I don't even know what the rockets get points from James Russell Westbrook non plan alison. I see here going just taking the same. He was beneath three. He was going right at Rudy. Gobert tough and yeah. He made a fall potatoes. Like I think rudy chartres heinous is see you get them out this. I'm so happy because these are the type of lineups that will kill his greatest years. Defensively when you put his ass onto the perimeter on the acid offend somebody that can dribble. He's the rockets. Have I've been a team to expose them to use. It always happens with them. And then they brought out a lineup. Also Rivers Erik Gordon Daniel Center back more. PJ Tucker you have to guard them. I'm at the point line. So real bad defensively just wasn't as effective as normally been throughout the season and just Erik Gordon. He turned by Ferdinand. Hey Don shit like this Gordon this but awesome also Daniel. How if those two can provide provide those types of sparks off the bench? You know maybe writing twenty points. I didn't even know Russell wasn't planning backtracks. You did say that. I didn't know that either. Yeah I didn't know that either. I don't see the reason he's odor at. I read. That was preserved his body to when you're twenty nine seventeen they're gonNA make the playoffs worked out perfectly for now the bulls game the ball game was co man. It was cool instead of last minute or so and then we get eight seconds out. I've I have never seen a second violation in a late game in a professional basketball. Say Dear White just like nope. You're not getting passes. Land Zach Levine. An eight second badly. She came up and then on the call and then we got the one play where we get like three offensive rebound and we didn't score and then Chris Chris Dun gets the ball he basically costs. What I so instead of giving it to sack Levin and charge was dropped so listen? I'm not you know I love me. Some Zach Levine. But this team mm-hmm is hard team to watch. The Spurs team is the most exciting either. Even though I love Dijon say so I think I was doing something to having a conversation but I kept hearing his name Chris done in my mic Tune into this. I'm hearing Chris Done No. Chris Dunno Chris not no scheme of things. He didn't have a bag as it was just foul Pagan Authors has done. I mean go watch the for myself and I'll turn it on and it was like Chris Dun had fouled out that's when he fouled tomorrow but I turned it on before that. Yeah just something to oversee the Caros on him like mad the next play out like a Klutz Freak Fritos then he come round beautiful play. I don't even know how D'Amato rose and ended up that opening because you know it's going to him and he gets fouled by cool who'll Krista the rose in this one almost tipped in wins. Wien Wien has to be an all. I I WANNA see Zach Levine and all of a sudden game represents cargo but I want. He's a guy to me. That will come out of nowhere in in in in demolish the All Star game somehow went. Mvp I wanNA say uh home Denzel Valentine because every time he gets minutes he comes out of who yes. Why See non-royal to you? I don't know why he's not. I had to be season. He was bad very bad. But anyway nick this is not good but like if he he had a good yes offense leased and he brings it every night whenever he gets up on. y'All know that tomorrow is a big time knife. NBA Videos coming back tomorrow. Should be a good game caboose. Then this is the last guy the all star stuff you gotTa Comeback Against Cruise done. I don't think he won't win. The cultures actually put out their votes. I don't know if it's the day before they've already done if a week ago. I really don't know but opposite day before right so and all the games. Yes because at this rate if the bull somehow now in the beating the Pacers xactly has a game then he deserves to be there. Be There Bam triple double. That was good. See The magic man. What's wrong with the magic? You know John Isaac John. Isaac is impactful player. Also Aaron Gordon is not playing. Are we expected them to they. They're still holding their playoff spot. A four game losing streak and see how bad the the bottom of each conference is right. Now it's mostly the eastern the bottom of the western conference. They may be under five hundred but they're still good yesterday. Lost Four Games. They would be in trouble. Yes exactly in the Bulls eye right there the nuggets grizzlies play tonight. Let me check that. You got a laptop. That's black. I say this tonight. At seven our time there was a close match because nuggets have like a tough. I stretch coming up where they pay like three contenders but the Grizzlies Dan out for services logged Jamal. Murray Damore Murray and Paul Millsap has got a tough stretch and then grizzlies. They played the nuggets but if they can beat this game they got like a couple of easy. I think the Pelicans that's easy now. The penalties the Pelicans just beat the Celtics Sunday night and beat them like destroyed them. The Celtics Ranger enter to but the substance still a good team with their. What are they ended up where they engine? Because I'm looking at this. Ross maybe Haber Nobel fan though. That's fine nine thirty and fifteen. The pelicans digits beat them gave him an ask what it was exactly what they beat the nuggets they got got the Knicks Pelicans the Pistons and then well that's been gone a nice little four game streak. Yeah they can all their winnable games can increase a big wins because because right now luckily for them to spurs on it. They're losing streak. Which means they're falling back the two games behind the eighth seed and then the grizzlies are win a game? So it's like do. y'All look at the conferences the L.. Think these are the eight like we still got like twenty five games this. Oh that eight spot from the West always flu but I think it's pretty solid for right now now. What about the east the Bulls are the night's games out? I honestly I don't see a world where the ball's ended up there. I hope so but I do think that the nets are going to end up keeping the eighth seed just because Korea so good not by much. Though now two games. They offer two games. which is doable about the boys I have to I agree with that is true? That's true because for baby. Jonathan Isaac was two months and not they got A. They got a disabled disabled player. Exception wherever the hell ruling. So He's pretty much done for the season because they got a proof it. I'm looking at a team. Like the seventy sixers and I'm feeling like they could climb up and maybe get some homecourt. I'm quite vantage. You look at a team like the Celtics last ten. They've been like five and five and slipping. The sixers are Kinda Rolling Without Joe Seven and three and our last tanning play the warriors tonight. Have you set that. I'M GONNA go back a year because I think they were in a very similar position last year where they were lower on the eastern conference And they ended up climbing. Look at them. They're six but this the the heat are at the second seal. Only thirty two wins. They only have two different the two and a half and he hadn't slipping a little bit. They're six and four in their last ten. So I mean the seventy sixers their next game against the warriors which is a game that they should be able to win a dissolve. They don't come play to the level of competition. I'm thinking about two years ago. By the way two years ago the seventy sixers. We're not good going into December. Then they ended up jumping up. Then the audio yes. So they'll play the warriors today. They'll play hawks Thursday and then they played celtics. And then he and then books back to back to ask Grizzlies. They're going to do what he just beat the Lakers. The they're gonNA play a story the Lakers. They probably will win those games. And then you play the Celtics and he can make up some ground and if you win both of those games split you may be at a third third see. So that'll be a big push for them but they can lose one of those games against the Hawks SORTA six warriors unless they lose one in they come through and they beat the Celtics in the heat. You know what I mean. And then after after they played a bucks they have the Grizzlies Bulls and I think the sixers are good at coming up and playing against the playoff eighteen top teams in the league. They come out in hope every time as long as it's at home get into their home record is great. Yeah in the West. Though how many of these things you actually consider consider contenders obviously the two teams is jazz. Somebody already considered like Baker. Actually need one of those Staff man it's tough are even look at the nuggets is true contender. I don't either dead. I always feel like they're piece away. I just say who do you consider dangerous. Would it be the rockies mayor of what would it as far as a threat to to grab from jazz maybe third and then rockets fourth for me personally go. Rock is about a jazz just because I feel like the rock is just have so much they hit you with. What does it take for the north of getting that conversation? Another star Wang what he was saying but what they have to see the problem with them is they have so much young talent and somebody's going to happen. This is because there's no stars on the market. That's your the trade in Michael Porter Jr. Gary Harris Monique Beasley or something. Like that. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA have to pay a lot of these two who yes. Yes yeah well. Yeah you Yokich Jamal. Murray and like a Bradley beal the somebody like that. Then you you're going to have some some decent and you are going to have the the pieces. To`recreate is a guy that can start a game. You don't have to hold it down for a while you might say. Moore's is a guy that can come off the bench. Give them a lease have wheel barred and they have things that they can work with which is another reason why. I don't understand why they feel scared a little bit. I know nothing right now is probably to available for now when the time does come. I think I really WANNA see down executed. Make a move to get an umbrella. You could kind of use this year's test you to see what you really need when you when the playoffs come and you see your maybe exposed defense because joe-marie can't play. You might need a better defender to take on those assignments something like that because you think about this is GonNa. That'd be their second year of playing play basketball last year very first time and I think at the end of the day there's always going to be like a top three see but they're never going to be looked at it serious. It's like they got young league so they're gonNA play in regular season. Nobody's going to be on management. They are good team You're going to play basketball but yet it comes down to that playoff basketball a little different right now they play. They will play the rockets. And I'm pretty sure they will be done to dog last underdog in every series that they played they might not be doggedness. Series is because they have the rockets aren't truly figure it out but it's the rock. They have their punch where they can hit. They can hit them hard. Hit Them I. I may end up with if that was pick nuggets in that one. Are they all go. Rock is just because Russ and heart and as the. Yeah I I only because the ride is GonNa have they could have a couple of games. Josh is now following them but the the nuggets had the fourth. beat you up inside legitimate system system that has been working years. Could be struggling to shoot while the Mug in easy buckets. 'cause they're gonNa you know back to the bed. I just like to I like Jeremy. Grant Paul millsap Jimmy. Here's Mason Plumlee hoops as well. Yep you know. Maliki cheesy is a shot. Make your mentioned Jeremy Great. He's going to be one of those dudes it's going to be the switch onto James Harden those pick and rolls very seen that with with the thunder. Because there's there's there's a lineup yoga's hasn't been bad defensively the Caesar but like as far Switz- ability goes you can run. Paul MILLSAP Jeremy Grant Together. And then you're you're switchable Jabbour every aspect against the against the rockets. Yeah Yeah I think it would be hard for them to go. Like would their line without Yoga's thanks. I understand I understand that. Just because he is a mass offensively but I think the numbers say that like I know Yoga's attest may not be great like he's in passing lanes a lot. He gets a lot deflections but the numbers I say they like their team defensively so much better with him on the court which is so beautiful things leader defensively like he sees everything has visions rate. So he's probably Briley barking out by a screen coming back door with it also plays into great great events halfway through the season who your top three teams to watch. Let's go away like this team's playing a you know one hundred percent that you wanNA watch math math. That's a pig because Lucas Lucas Lucas's so fun to watch the grizzlies eighteen degrees out there. I like watching the pills watching pills. The PELICANS are getting even before. Like I'll just like it. was somebody watching interrupt. I'll actually take the raptors over the heat okay. I don't mind watching the jazz three from each from each gazelle put his. These are taking about seventy six. You know like watching the I do not like watching the both. Because it's the first half a basket has here seventy sixers pacers and then I'll probably go early on it was the raptors but Lately is probably been Celtics But those rose to flip flop a low key chain. I like watching the wizards because you know they drop in so many points that they gave up one hundred and fifty points at hawks. Yeah we got them Haw Muhima threes. So That's fun Davis Burton's pulling for the logo and then Bradley beal. There's always going to be Bradley beal. It's a fun thing to watch. Sure I didn't know where I like. The pelicans the disagree as these have been really fun. The thunder have their moments. I can. I'd say that there's like eight teams in the Western Conference that I love watching three. I did watch the blazers just Damian Lillard at since mellow mellow to. You got the mellowed AFLA. They can't see back and says Anthony. He's used to be that team last year but this year it's been tough to watch them other than last night's comeback but they've been they've been tough. Yeah the jazz jazz will be number one team in the east. I mean the West. I don't like watching the Lakers. I knew I can watch the whole damn game on twitter after his dumb because all the highlights clippers are cool with both guys a plan. But it's like once a month. What is wrong with Paul? George is even. He's playing. What legitimate a hamstring hamstring? Yeah he has a legitimate injury which is funny that we sat about somebody because the stuff that injury Looking forward to tonight's game tonight's tonight does have a Mike. I'm glad you pointed out not get the grizzlies heat. Celtics are always going to be even sons Mavericks GonNa be ended up being a good game Would it look forward to the clippers. Lakers but I I do love the I did. They postponed it for further notice. How does how do you think that works? As far as ticketing goes I would think you definitely refund or they make either option that you've you come through the next year when I'm sure a lot of people are going to fly in for that game a such a monument to gain for different aspects. But we have the two best teams in the Western Conference going to guide then then all the emotions going through in La at the stake center. But I want to maverick. Silence can be depending on what type of songs we get. Get Harry bipolar team. The we we do games like Nick's Hornets Kiss apprised. The hell out of you and entertainment come on under six Marky Mark Morris Scoop trae young can try to put up a fight against Toronto. He did the thing. Oh yeah he did have missed the shot. You'd I like the top allies year. Six Bill were being thing that I would just be hard to watch them against the warriors. I don't really watch teams because sometimes the world some days they do something can come out and hold down But Yeah I'm looking forward. What throws games tonight and I want to see what cards come out today yes? That's what I'm really looking. Forward to. Another seventy sixers. Though this like this whole thing where you don't have joelovesbeets Jordan beat and Venice drive into just utilize them on the bench more or less. Oh give been similar. Where it's just him or John where it's just him but then when you get down to the fourth quarter and you gotta play together and what are you doing? Are you planning together. I mean that's where their issues and I was going to be issue. Yeah I think we just ride it out. Yeah just put him on the court together and until further notice and say they figure out what the hell they do only to be with like a figure it out and it was them to Say Good Point there. Yeah I do the bill with being but don't get don't get it twisted. The the idea is for them to win together. If it can happen I don't know he's GonNa come back because I just seen. What the jazz how my county just came back Nick Donovan? Mitchell was telling them that my Canada's basically just don't worry about me coming back in just continue to continue to do. You're going to do the same thing he's going to be like. I'm still the best player Li literally on the team. I gotTa answer my back to what I was doing. I think he already has like the green light with a team. So he's not going to really come in like mess anything up. I think he's just GonNa come in and be Joel embiid. So and that city and that organization he is number one whether it should be. This is how it is Yeah but I feel like they're still going to be a good team and it is about being a great team and about the play offs being good and good enough. They want their championship and yeah I I'm GonNa be personally but I do hope they come out and figure it out. I like the way it's about. You know we talk talk about being being aggressive when there's Joe other me. Tobias Harris has his moments where he's aggressive and then he's like not really days take seven shots and then they want night comes out and taking eighteen shot so I wanna see also be aggressive when Joel embiid comebacks. He's A. He's a big piece of that. Josh rich together I think Mas has done a the job very While he's been on getting making use of his minutes a raw netto has played some good basketball Who He who'd he you try to meet at the Rim Anthony Davis when they play the legacy chat he met him at the Ram duct using those opportunities to gain confidence for those bench players? 'cause we know the the Philly doesn't have the strongest storm starting for the more concert addicted. Stone those with that man Matisse style will. He's very in the defense of a shoe sizes when they established themselves on. Ben Simmons give those those looks he he's GonNa shoot he's no hesitation he's not like Andrew Rogerson leading the fly Zaire Smith there's still some pe- finally got some minutes the other night so yeah if he can you know start getting some opportunities reason gain some confidence in showing a proven himself and then another young guy and I was like. That's another guy that can turn into an asset. If you want to go out and get some debt. Mark is going to be available to play my bought out a couple of years ago. They did they think on a biomarker up when he went out and got out of the year or sign another. Yeah that's hit a second year or once came in facility. Ruge nearly got paid off. I got paid off that it was like three years. Twenty four million or something for him. That's a good ask God. He was just a stress four but then he was able to play center. Takes charges take a lot of a lot of eventually. He's not he's not easy to score. Yes because you know he. 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Kobe Bryant

"At IBM problems inspire us to push the world forward. That's why so many people work with us on everything from city traffic to Shen plastic smart loves problems. Ibm A. B. M. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. Welcome to jump. I am Rachel Nichols we have very heavy. The hearts here today and in the next hour. You're going to hear from the Logo Jerry. West from Kobe's old teammates Robert Ory Matt Barnes from Tracy McGrady and ice cube so many others who knew Kobe. Well I though we were just talking about him. I don't know why we always say something like that. When someone dies it's like we think we can pull on a string and tug back to the moment when everything was okay? Maybe if we can do that we won't have to face what happened to Kobe and his thirteen. Thirteen year. Old Daughter Jonah and seven others each of them special each of them just wiped out of the sky. Maybe we think that if we tell the old stories the the new one doesn't have to be real the thing is we were just talking about him. Our show was in Philadelphia on Saturday. Night when Lebron Pass Kobe for for third on the all-time scoring list and in the Locker Room Lebron was just telling the story of how when he was fifteen years old. Kobe gave him a pair of shoes. Kobe's a size smaller than Lebron. But Lebron said he absolutely stuck his feet into those babies to play the next day because they came from Kobe and anyone who loves the sport knows what that means. Oh and we were just talking about Kobe with Tracy Mcgrady a week or so ago because they were in this middle of this adorable horrible stretch of AAU tournaments. Both of their kids were playing in so they would be like the dad club sitting in the stands together and cheering each other's family on you not Mac was Kobi's OBI's earliest rival and also one of his earliest NBA friends and last year. The three of us all sat down together to tell some stories. Here's one so. How old were you when you guys met eighteen? Nineteen because your your head. This is when I knew okay. He likes to play mind games he he always trying to get an edge on whoever his opponents whatever. I don't care if I'm his friend. Whatever so I told him I said I'm about to go work out? He was like what are you going to work for you off season like they will need to work out and I'm looking at it so I go back to my room. uh-huh change easy to four minute. I go to the weight room is do the what I had to take another this do right here. So he's always going to have an edge on somebody a hard time understanding with sarcasm. I was just taking a minute. That was Kobe and every other. NBA superstar knew. It like Kevin Garnett Ornette. We were just talking about Kobe. Last month cagey was visiting the set and I asked during a commercial break about what promised to be an insane hall of fame ceremony. This fall because because Kevin and coby and Tim Duncan we're all up for induction cagey and I joked about Kobe. Speech but it would be like how competitive trying to be outshining right cagey and Dunkin. Even Vat of course now that speech we will never hear it. My God we were just talking about him with Luke don-shik because Lucas incredible rise. This season involves Kobe because of course it does. Kobe brought gee-gee to watch Luca play play and actually started trash talking. Donncha from the sideline a fan is heckling him and he looks to see who it is. And it's you talked a little trash to you. I understand he was actually talking. Slovenia is that right. What did he say again? Say That I can say curse birds or what it was like so somebody was talking and I was like what is going. How's the price on the houses accent? Yes I know Kobe washing. I was just amazing to know him. And I mean Lebron's was always my favorite everybody's hours West Covina base and what he did on. The floor was just amazing. You Know Koby initially didn't attend a lot of NBA Games. After he he retired. It was G G who got him back into washing the league. She was his little shadow just as curious and smart and much like her father before her. She absolutely absolutely already knew as a teenager. She was destined to be great. Here's Kobe describing her on the Jimmy Kimmel show go out advance as a come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and be like and you gotTa have a bull you gotta have a bully may ask somebody carry on the tradition. The legacy she's like. Oh I got this they can. Do you got this. That clip just devastates me because it is Kobe. The father which is the way we were just talking about him. The most often over this past year or so remember when Kobe came into the League public opinion was rife if with stereotypes about black fathers especially pro athlete brock bothers. Kobe was one of the players who very visibly put the lie to that because he was so devoted to those kids. I saw Kobe just a month ago and there. He was so proud pulling out her cell phone to show me new pictures of his girls. And honestly I could tell you thousand. Kobe Kuby stories. I have known him for literally half my life but two of them stand out in particular the first one he wasn't even actually therefore this was more than a decade ago. One of the coolest work assignments. It's I ever had interviewing Barack Obama. They took me to the back of the plane to meet him. And the first words out of Obama's mouth before he even said hello were. Hey I saw are you on. TV At that Lakers game last week. What the Hell was Koby doing? And that's when it hit home for me. Yes like everybody else. The president of the United States was he had just been talking about Kobe Bryant. Kobe was that much of a part of the fabric of American Life. The second story. I've told this often in the twenty three years since it happened because of how much it means to me I was still starting out as a reporter. A young woman in a time when locker rooms were still not friendly places for young women. Sometimes it was hard just to get players was to agree to an interview but when I went to a story on a rookie named Kobe Bryant. Not only did he sit with me on a bench for forty five minutes. He told me he could relate to how discouraging aging could be. Sometimes how some of the vets on his team did not like this kid straight out of high school getting all the attention how they were hazing him as we stood up. He said to me you and me. We're going to be just fine. They have no idea what's coming. They didn't of course not with him but we know now you cannot tell the story of the NBA NBA. Without Kobe. You cannot tell the story of Los Angeles without Kobe. Even fans he'd never met so many can't tell the story of their own lives without a scene that that involves Kobe all of us all the time for reason after reason in year after year we were just talking about him and we. We'll keep talking about him forever. I am joined now by two of Kobi's former Lakers teammates repertory Matt Barnes. I'm so grateful for you guys guys for being here today really Robert. What was it like being teammate? Because we've heard all the stories is funny which just missed about Kobe. Young And I was one of the guys when he was rookie and a lot of guys upset at him because back then you could bring beer in the locker room and when we got him on the team it was like no more beer. Oh man you miss everything. I think the thing that you guys as someone who kind of pushed koby away from like because back then you want us to a kid coming league and he's a good eighteen your kid he's GonNa take someone spot and so a lot of guys will county no standoffish to him but for me of the team. He's a basketball player. You love this guy because he's such a competitor and that's the first thing I know in the fair I practice. We'll going to walk through. He was going one hundred miles an hour. dukes calm down this a walk-through but he was that type of competitor and and that's what made everybody team better because you knew if you didn't income with the dead day usually get embarrassed No it was. We teamed up became friends. On on odd circumstances you know the the the infamous ball fake in Orlando where everyone you know. We were about to fight. Whatever happened happened? That's right. That's summer free agency. He I got a call from him. Like hey you wanna gonna be a Laker. And I'm I'M GONNA lifelock Grub Johnson my favorite player from northern California but so cows adopted me. I'm in your half my life so to get a call from Kobe like hey you wanna come be my team. Anything with create great enough to F- with me is crazy enough to play with me on this. I earned that dude suspecting when we became you know more than teammates. We became brothers after that. I mean. Look there's so many things about him that were ferocious talk about being competitor passing versus not passing legendary. were either of you in one of those practices where he refused used to pass to anyone or in one of the Games where he would make a point. Because you've been yelled at so much that he wouldn't shoot the ball and be like. Oh let's see how they are how they like it without me. ooh That was never involvement was on the team. That wouldn't pass it to hilt. I've heard a lot of players. He's always funny. I hear players talk about infamous. This and like you wouldn't even apart. Why are you talking about that? You know we were part of that. What we were a mess with him on purpose and you look at a bitch and we'd be like and we were like oh cycle? We couldn't get the ball to you. It was just one of those things that we will let him know. We bring him back to Earth like listen. You need us just as much as we need. This is a team sport. We know you wanted to top dogs but we can control your destiny. And he later found out he thought it was very funny but he was but we knew and when it was time crunch time we needed a bucket in big fella means shack. Couldn't get the ball the Go-to guy and we wrote him one time. We wrote him for like I think it was twenty games at school with thirty points points. We just he was just a great competitor and we knew that that this guy was going to be some special from day. One that drive. He had to win. Even after. The first wave of Lakers and I waive titles to win without shack. You were around around for that even hungrier. The second time around. I think obviously the first time around with these guys had an amazing team and then the the was the was shacks team. You couldn't do it without shacking. Anyone one who knows Kobe. How competitive he is? He was damaged thousand going to be his narrative. It was gonNA take whatever it took to get another one pass shack and then sit at the same table Jordan it was conversations that were you know had often you know like I said he and I got really close off the court and we will talk about that and like I said just his drive desire and attention to detail to be the greatest I obviously. He had a a abundance of God given talent but he thanked God every day for how hard he worked with the talent. God game to continue to approve. A selfie never cheated himself he never cheated the game. Do we know how much he idolized. Michael Jordan I mean everything was just a mimic rate. I mean even the way he talked when I came in the League mimicking Jordan speech patterns when when he would talk to you privately about how much that meant to him. What kind of word is what he is? It was just. It was amazing to me. Some people try to not but why not try to marry yourself. Yeah you know what I mean. I mean there's no for my fault everything you know like I said I I saw early. So we kinda came to Elliot the same time. He came in ninety six. I came in ninety eight but as a ucla like route so he was a kid so he was on our campus a lot. He was working out there and I'm looking. I'm like how do not play like this is incredible like he looks like Jordan House. He not playing. He can't play Jim. I mean but to see his relentless work ethic and and I told the story of my podcast one time he broke his right hand and eat y when I tell you he came. Ucla and did a whole workout as a left handed player. And look just like you would love to end the playoffs just like this is different students. Different story rabbit when you're trying to tell someone what bats Kobe. What what is the thing that sticks in your mind the most copious things that he did around you for me me is just it? It goes back to the time where he borrows all in the locker room he looked this guy's we win. And we gotTa Stretch Games where I want to break this tight. I want to dischord records thirty games. Plus go on this. I need you guys needed to get the ball and we also know like this. What are you going to give us but we we want him to get that record? And and that's what you have that love for certain. I play with certain guys. You're like oh I want to get. I don't care but this guy we knew we had the passion Ashen desire and he when you talk about someone trying to be perfect. This was a guy on the edge of being imperfect on the court. He was great on a defendant. He was great on office van and when people say two way player I says No. This is a basketball because basketball was played on both. There is no such thing as player and he was the ultimate competitive on both ends. If I remember one time I think it was a I was guarding. Tim Duncan Tim was done he can he can always rob let me going here. I'm not giving you go ahead and go up. He's got him getting all the go ahead. And of course being the great player. He just shot riled all right well maybe you need you know. He went out and recruiter me. And Ron so we the defensive stopper but at the end of the game score one. More time I'm taking us to guard the best players competitive natures is unmatched knowing him. The way you guys did when you watched him in that last game I just I remember so clearly being in the arena shack told me on the court afterward he was like I told him he had to go for fifty and then that mother effort went I sixty I mean. Did anything surprise you about. Unfortunately we were getting our heads kicked in and Golden State that night. I'd get a chance to see you know. Going to stay was winning. Seventy S when I was with Memphis You know what I was as soon as I got the locker room us check in and saw what we have to report. That game is so I was there live and it to be able to be there for which last game aim to see the work. You know you start out like Oh man you hate to see Kobe. Go out like this first quarter. He was he was thinking. Jim Sewn and he's a typical. I think in that second quarter he realized this is my last. NBA Player and he got that extra energy the youthful Kobe came out he went to work on Utah and it was. It was a great game to watch. It was a great time to be in the ring because the fans got you know they got to witness greatness goes out with sixty a sixty Colby Bryant. Have you WANNA close this segment by telling us your family story with Kobe. Because again it goes beyond Ah That's what I really WANNA touch on. We know how mazing player he was but the man and the father. I got a chance to know that side of it. And that's where we really bonded. I mean the love. He had for his kids. The love love you have from. I mean he started giving my kids shoes that they were three years old and a private birthday as you can see. This is a surprise. The twins surprise ten birthday party took time out of of his day to to to give them a private workout and something they thought about Injuring about someone. Who would always want to have? The new shoe came. He was sent to the kids into their team. Just someone that was always. Is there For everybody what. Some people don't understand is the world lost a great basketball player but lost a superhero. You know I'm basically sleep from here. You know that I've been here since I was eighteen. I've kind of adopted. Lan same he called L.. A. Home and he was more than just a basketball player. He was a super. He was everything you know. He was someone who gave absolutely everything half for twenty years. Never never sell yourself. Short never sold the team short and he was someone who wrote the ship until the ship sunk gave until he couldn't give no more more and that's why it's so hard for this city to to to to mourn this into believe. Listen to swallow this. I walked up here in the brief time. Aside to people came up to me crying and gave me a hug like you like. He's he's really gone. So as you know we lost nip last year We lose another solid person from La. An someone who represents L. A. to the fullest in in. This one's GonNa hurt for a long time. I mean he wore Los Angeles across his chest for two decades he represented L. A.. It was him and the Hollywood sign. Those are the landmarks of of this city and his loss will be deeply. I want to thank you guys so much for sharing your memories here today. There's so much more. We could do twenty hours on Kobe Bryant and we will continue to be talking about him of course for so many weeks and months and years to come on this show. Coming up we'll talk to the man who brought Kobe to the Lakers Hall of Famer Jerry. West is going. It'd be joining the jump after the break as we continue to remember Kobe. Jonah and all of the victims of Sunday's helicopter crash. We will be back ever been locked down. You know suffered a setback fired left out. It happens since it happened to Mike. Bloomberg middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job star. Family boom fired at thirty nine. Would it Mike do for a lot of us. Do we got backup dove back in. He had an idea design a new computer able to crunch data and process information in a unique way he built it he he sold it. He built more. He sold more. He built a team. He built a company created. Twenty thousand jobs Bloomberg is a doer. This is Michael Douglas us. I've played a president and movies. This is real world. This is our World Mike. Bloomberg has what it takes to win in the country. Find some common ground between Democrats and Republicans and then lead the way a leadership. Mike will get it done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president and and I approve. This message paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty twenty colby my thoughts and went absolutely recipes. This loss it's hard to pop today is is one of the saddest days in my lifetime. seems like a bad dream. She's one wake of the hardest game ever had to play. I don't know it's a shocker to everyone unbelievably sad and One of the more tragic days that I think for me. It's rally rally just kind of sitting in because of just told parliament but you know five minutes ago. So many people affected by the Kobe Bryant. I'd like now like to welcome the man who traded for coby on draft night in one thousand nine hundred six former Lakers general manager the logo Jerry West Jerry. Thank you for being here and I just want to start at the beginning. Doing what did you see in Kobe. At a young age that made you so determined to trade up and get him. Where's your so much has been made of that and to me? That's not even a story. Story is his life and his legacy. The summer of ninety six. We had hoped that we could possibly acquire a major free agent and in the process us are prized. Possession was going to be Shaquille O'Neal if we had an opportunity to persuade him to come to Los Angeles and at that point in time there was lockout. You really couldn't communicate and finally were able to communicate with people and but we had the draft before and it was a player here that name. Kobe Bryant that was a high school kid who's Kid Wednesday championship father. Joe ex-professional player played in Italy. He moved back and watch his career and it was a lot the film on him. And you know just how different and unique he was as college. I mean as high as a high school athlete and then to have a chance to visit with him in person he was here in Los Angeles represented by our Intel. Who'd been a friend of mine for years? His sons and my sons are best S.. Two friends even to this day and they were really young and he wanted me to watch him workout so we invited him to a workout with four players was that were draft eligible that were attractive prospects and getting there and watching this kid with this perpetual smile this incredible incredible boundless energy and his desire to frankly show everyone he was the best player. They're probably took ten minutes to see. He was far superior to these guys who a couple of them got drafted in the first round. And when when you watched him you say oh my gosh. There's no chance that we would have an opportunity to get him in a draft because of where we are going to be in position. Well there's another opportunity came back. And he wanted to work out with us again. and Michael Cooper who was one of the Great Defenders and league during his time I think he'd been retired for a year year and a half something like that. We asked him to come over and participate in his workout and Michael came there after about ten minutes. I said Michael you an old man you. You don't need to do this anymore. But it just we just stopped the workout. It was just ridiculous of how how he conducted himself more importantly how he was just a teenager. Who was the man and Michael Cooper? Look like the teenager this kind of embarrassing to be honest with you but it didn't take long to to see the talent but also to see the enthusiasm. He had for the game his knowledge Thurs to get better to learn more and During the process of the draft we were tried to trade him for the second third all the way down to number thirteen and finally Charlotte said yes. We will take him. We offered ballade eighty Lakh. Who was one of the best starting centers in the league and everyone wanted US enter and they thought there was something wrong along with him if we wanted to? Trade Him I don't think they had any idea that this was a stepping stone to put us in a position to drought To not only draft this player who we thought was the best player new draft and through. Jerry Buss was encouragement I totally message Jerry. This Scott is going to be a huge all but she's going to be a great player and he took my word for it We didn't have very many people. Working came with us as tiny staff not like today and then a series of conversations with with Shaquille. O'Neal let us into position where we were in a position talk to him financially until we trade Vlada we were not and so the first thing ain't got then I created a lot more space to try to scientific you'll or Neil and then and there was another deal after that that gave us some money. I'll never forget I told Jerry Buss. One day I said look. He said he's coming and I told you I said Look Shaquille. I said I'm going to put you on the phone with Jerry Buss. Okay and I'm not GonNa make this trade until you acquiesce saying you'RE GONNA sign. He agreed agreed to sign. And then I said to him and that conversation. I said we have a kid here. If you're going to love as a player I said he's going to be on a great players ever ever play the game and I think all of us have aspirations where you draft players and the players and position are going to be great and watch him grow to watch what he became in this city the legacy he established when he left wbt a singular word. I heard somebody say this yesterday. Kobe resonate the city of Los Angeles. Forever Sunday's usually a day of you get up and had plans to work out Read the newspaper. April have little by D. for breakfast and in the news came over and all of a sudden found out he was gone. I had a better killed in Korea and was exactly the same feeling fell. I was surrogate father for two years. I pee my house a lot. My Son Dove into practice mine. Who worked for the Lakers? For a long time. I mean no longer there of course but he worked for the Lakers longtime and they became friends. remember the first time he took him down the four zero. I five freeway to practice. He couldn't believe the traffic and he was in my house a lot and then to arns Guidon didn't he acquired a home in Pacific palisades. We lived out there with some fairly convenient at that point in time to the fore warm and also practice facility but yes I lost someone. It was like son to me Christmas cards. I used to get from him from Ervin Johnson joys of their family together To see the impact Koby ad from so many people And especially women's basketball. He embraced damn. He encouraged him his academy to promote promote sports. Better conditioning coaching his daughter into thank. He was going out there to watch. His daughter can be and for him and the other families. It's like Doc This horrific loss not only of a great resource but someone who was building an incredible second career someone who's not content to be someone commenting on a basketball game. Jerry he was amazing. When you say he's like a second son to you we can all we can all feel it? I'm so grateful to you for sharing some of these memories with us today. I know how hard today is an yesterday and every day is going to be after that because of this. Thank you so much for spending time with us. We'll say he will live forever in his city. He was a worldwide phenomenon and I am happy to share a small part carver. Thank you so much very seriously. I'm incredibly grateful. I'm looking forward to seeing you soon but under better circumstances thank you thank thank you thank you appreciate it so you have have told a story you've ever to you on a trip to Germany. y'All played one on one supposedly Jim and according to you you want he's supposed holy smoke. We didn't play one. Why wasn't keeping score? What we were doing was keeping score? What were we working on her footwork? On the post we working out individually and then we working on stuff wonder post. Let's keep score plan. If somebody's playing. were go if the person's scores. Keep the ball. What is that? We wasn t score. Have you ever been with him where he wasn't keeping score question. Yeah let's be honest. I know him has he ever. I mean please. Here's a cup of coffee and keeps score. I was keep score seven to three three I I I remember specific. Can't believe the guy that doesn't even know the location where we were playing out. Forget for this country the country may be off now. I may forget a lot of things you forgot what reported the I'm not GonNa Forget is a school to throw weight loss. Aw It's okay all right man you gotta off. Germany pairs leading Damon notes to the best of US man. So you just happen to be that day until you doubt much. Welcome back that. That conversation between Kobe and Tracy was taped January thirtieth two thousand nineteen almost a year ago to the day and we now welcome in longtime friend of Kobe. T T MAC. I appreciate you joining us from your home in Houston Texas and I just hearing copays voice like that Raza new back and forth while you guys always did. What's going through your mind? Nine devastated like just like everybody else I mean. I think I'm the one person that has the connection that nobody else has we. Kobe and I used to stay at his house with Pam. Joe Joe Share Sharia and just remember us. This is the the minute I walk through those doors like it was just an instant bond and you know the stories that I could tell being in there and watch a karate flakes and watching Michael Jordan home home videos in he would watch certain part. Art Pause rewind the tape and I was like what the hell are you doing. And it was just him he was he was practicing on some of the things that that Michael was doing. He was emulate net and this sounds crazy but Kobe spoke this he spoke this used to all the time. I WanNa die young and I thought he was Cra- he's he's just say. I want to die young. I WANNA be bored allies and you know I want to have my career be better than Michael Jordan and I wanna die young and I just thought he was just so crazy for saying that and when I got the news yesterday I had a dance with my daughter yesterday. My wife's event and they came and told me the news and just could believe just like just like everybody else but I'm devastated. I can't even imagine and those pictures too young teenage Kobe. That as you said you have. Because he felt you were his contemporary and someone he could let in in a way that he really couldn't let anyone announced those years and yes hearing you say. Oh I WANNA die young. I want to be a legend. That's totally in line with young Kobe. But older coby coby you and I spent the last year watching the forty forty-one-year-old Koby he wanted to be around especially for his family. Can you tell me a little bit about just the the way. You guys have reconnected recently. And I mentioned earlier in the show these AAU tournaments it's not only texting and calling and the joking around but then you would be at these tournaments together. The the DAD's Club right. Yeah and clearly statement was pre way before kids and I'm sure you know once he had kids he didn't have that mindset. You know we go through our careers. Let me just back up. My first two three season a probably wouldn't have made it through seasons if it wasn't for Colby because he came in a year before me same footsteps straight out of high school school and you know he went through some turbulent times in his rookie season insane with myself I used to call it a lane on him for advice all the time and he will give me that advice because we were brothers and I went on play for the magic. He was playing playing for the Lakers and plan for championships. And me over here. I'm calm and try to win scoring titles because I'm not competing for championships. Our relationship Kinda got lost because of his mindset and what he was trying to accomplish it I was over here and we go and play your careers and here we are. We have kids and we re reunited you know with through a you basketball because of our kids were coaching our kids. And you know that connection connection just reconnecting with him and bring back those old memories going out to watch his kids. It's practice and haven't plan. He's gained sir. Playing these games and hand washing. My kids play was like the greatest the greatest thing and I'll sit there and watch G. G. BEFORE I go up and I'll give you a hug and tell her to go out there and kill like the worry about that uncle. I got this and she was special. She was built like Kobe or mannerism. Everything is I mean just to watch. Her play was like watching a young colby the mood she had fadeaway hurt you so oh girl it just looks like her dad out there like she's GonNa be special she's he's not GonNa get the opportunity he's not going to get that chance her to carry on that legacy and I was the last tournament I sat and I talked the talk to Vanessa in other three girls for like twenty minutes watching G G play my heart goes out to Vanessa and those girls and pay him and Joe Shea Sharia I mean is this is this it was hard man this is heart and that's the thing that we feel so much because Kobe was a basketball player and a public person he was a father a husband and a brother and tracing tell you a little bit easier knowing that you your wife Clorinda we're going to be there to help take care of an ESA going forward because she is going to need it I can't even imagine Mac thank you so much for being with us we appreciate you I will soon and we all feel it and the way you described your friend you did such a service to him as you always have thank you welcome back you you are looking live at the plaza outside of our studio also across the street from Staples Center you see that giant picture of Kobe Bryant so many fans just coming to remember him to be together to have a place they can cry and just feel the presence of him while they still can we now welcome in three natives of Los Angeles I Jefferson coach David Phil Ice Cube and I just you all grew up here in L. A. and Q.. I was so happy you could come in with us today because the impact active Kobe on this city a center earlier in the show it was him in the Hollywood sign. That's what you thought of. La For the last two decades. What do you mean to people here? You L. People don't understand how much Athletes like Kobe or cream or shack or magic chick. How much they really hold the city together? You know. The city has a lot of fault lines not only in ground but with the people and would bring us together is the love for our teams are are Lakers Dodgers you know. Today I have no hate for the clippers clippers in Raider. I mean the rams and the charges all the teams as here hold this city together because it gives us something you know to to unite Behi- where you know it's it's gang banging its economic differences. It's racial differences differences and our teams holidays together. So you know. Kobe is is the some of the glue that holds uh-huh lay together. And you're doing the doing for the last twenty. Four hours is a keep talking in the present tense. Because it doesn't seem real when you first found out about this us you said someone texted you and then what did you next text on your phone. who were you reaching out to Kobe to you? Know See if he would hit me back and when I didn't get it back you know you don't immediately start to worry because you know he's Kobe and he he he always get back. You know sooner or later so It was just on this. I just feel. Just toss internal night thinking about Vanessa. And and his daughters arturs thinking about his mother and his father and his sisters thinking about his. You know for NASA spare everybody in his his media in life that love You know what they lost in. I know what we lost as as fans Tom Me personally. I don't have too many heroes this younger than me. So is profound found But I think more about his family and I hope to city wraps their arms around the family and embraced in as much as they embrace Kobe. Because you know the families needed what do you think he meant to Los Angeles. Richard Will. Oh you know you know what was so special about him is that he was from Philly and he came here but everyone knows about Philly sports and readiness in that toughness and that work ethic but he combined that Hollywood smile that Hollywood entertainment right. So that's what made him so special. My parents are both from Philly. I'll never forget this. I was in like my second or third year and we beat them. So Devon George Kareem Rush Luke Walton. They come now in. My parents are sitting right there. And they're like. Hey Richard you know. We want to be Kobe. I'm thinking about Kobe. The competitor and I so those guys can ars I hey. My parents wanted me Kobe right and this is I played against the finals and I was like man. We just beat them. I don't WanNa go and ask them and then all of them were like nervous. I don't know so you know parents don't ever ask for much and so I walk over and I was like. Hey Co you know. My parents are both from South Philly. They would really like to meet you. And I'm telling about on the flip of a switch. Here's a go. He went over there and talked to my parents for five minutes. And just oh you. You went from to South Philly high school yet any and he just chopped it up with them for five minutes. And I'm twenty three years old like in awe. The code Luke in Devon George or sitting behind him like what is going and and the craziest thing about this is my parents. Were in town last yesterday for my my kids birthdays. Wow and so to have my parents be right there and to have them be in as much shock as I was. And you know again this generational. My little boys were climbing all over me me being devastated. My parents devastating everyone down the line. Nine you know from a five year old kid to sixty five year old pair. We're all devastated. And you know what he meant. La's really what he meant to the world. He just an embodied so much. What does this on-court legacy Says just for players for coaches. We hear so much about the city but even just on the court right. Yeah and I just I don't know if we can even put it into into words because the impact is going to keep there's going to be a ripple effect from what he you know what he did for the game of basketball You know the unbelievable part of his I think has legacy is on the tail in how he began to give it back and pay it forward to the next generation to Bron to to these guys last night me anyway sat up all night with aside and he just talked about stories that you know time that Kobe spent with him tutoring mentoring of competing against each other. And you know for me. It was a surreal moment. Because as you know I think about Kobe and his daughter and I'm sitting here watching Dwayne his son and you forget that these superheroes are people and that their DADS dads and that they're just husbands and they're trying to figure it out as we go and I think You know we're not going to know you know what that legacy is ultimate competitor. Obviously the hardest worker I've ever seen in in in my whole twenty two years of basketball. He's the hardest worker. I've ever the say in the moment I think when you grow up here in. La You understand QB make movies. You can retake a movie. You can't retake a shot and he always answered the bail and and ended the movie on that high note. You know what I mean. And that's what it was for. Listen and and I even think about like that to get off the subject but I think about growing up here in La and in the neighborhood. That I grew up in you know you grew up in south central Eh south central with the Fremont High School and this very few people that can go into any neighborhood without no problems koby be. Brian can go into any neighborhood. La and he will be welcome and cheered and revered because that was the type of person he was us in La he was superhero. You know he'll be missed like like no other He he's he's from fairly but he had that. La At the best. You know what I learned from Colby you know Before he try to master the game of basketball he was working on mastering the game of Kobe. Before you master anything that you doing you you have to master yourself with discipline Consistency Working on the things that you're not good at And not being afraid to take a shot in the moment and He he taught me how to better myself and to go into the things and never be satisfied. Never be satisfied You know there's always tomorrow you can always do better. You know what I mean you can always give it a better shot bit better effort and a line from Kobe Bryant richer you were on the other team but on the court during one of the most visual moments of Kobe's career and it wasn't winning a title it was when he snapped his Achilles. You're on the bench right at that side of the court. Can you describe. Describe what you saw and then what happened afterward so I remember right there he asked Harrison. Barnes like hey did you kick me right like I could see him mouth it right and we were just no right because if you go back and look at he'd been playing forty eight minutes forty eight minutes like he hadn't missed. Many Games are many minutes and they'll minutes he was he was he was getting that team and he knew that they needed those two free throws it was late in the game. And we're all sitting there like all. Maybe it's just a tweak. Maybe what because you saw him just like like every other Achilles injury. It's just this but Kobe limped over there knocked down two free throws and then limped off the court and so even in those moments. We're all hoping and thinking for the best. Like oh well if obviously if he can he can do that right. Yeah maybe it's just a pull. Maybe it's a strain. Maybe it's a and and it was just I. It's just one of those things that like very rarely is like the real life thing like a movie very rarely right. There's no way that you can you know guys'll Derek jeter tiger woods when they Michael Jordan very you know our greatest heroes a Lotta Times. There's the story seems like a movie and even him coming back and maybe they they didn't get to the the level that they wanted to later in his career but for him to end on the note that he did is something that no one could right. I don't even think he could and the Kobe story is complicated. He did not live a perfect life he was not a saint. The sexual assault charge in Colorado is going to be part of his story. There is no criminal conviction him but there was a civil settlement He did issue a public apology. And then I saw him really spend serious effort through the rest of his life in working on how he treated women how he talked to women what he did for women and for me. That meant a lot that he wanted to do better and we saw him and what he did for Women's sports he was one of the loudest Advocates College Basketball Games. WNBA game supporting the US Women's national soccer team Oregon. Sabrina Sabrina Ionescu just broken up before her game yesterday thinking about her friend. Kobe Richard his impact on Women's sports. I mean talked to. Ah Yeah if you look at Steph curry and you WANNA know one way to really involve a women's sports have daughters that are passionate about it and see somebody that your daughter you you want those role models that your daughters look to to support and he was again like you said one of the loud voices when you got a guy that magnitude chip in to women's sports it has a tremendous impact. And you know you talk about the course of his life. You're right. He was not a perfect human. And I think that's what connected us to him as we watched him from a seventeen year old boy growing to this man that we come to know as Kobe Bryant and wasn't flawless. Would we love a bottom. He was always trying to get better yes he was always trying to get there. So that's what we love about him. We Love the journey of the man trying to try for perfection and in so many ways right so many things that he felt like I could do better every time we see him for he came back stronger in better and it just meant a lot to so many here. Thank you guys so much for everything today. I want to thank everyone who joined the show. Our condolences go out the entire families of Kobe. Jonah all seven other people who were lost in the accident in honor of Kobe. We're going to end the show with twenty four seconds of Silence

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Kobe Bryant dead at 41...Life is short

20 Minute Morning Show

07:17 min | 8 months ago

Kobe Bryant dead at 41...Life is short

"It was everybody before we start the twenty minute morning show. Let me tell you about anchor. If you've never heard of anchor this is the easiest way to make a podcast so let me explain Blaine. It's free there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or your computer anchors going to distribute your podcast for so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many more you can make money from podcasting with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast and one place so listen. Download the free APP right now or go to anchor dot. FM to get started and now stand by for the twenty minute morning show from our studios in Charlotte North Carolina. This is b.j Murphy on the twenty minute morning show for this Monday January twenty seventh. Everybody's still reeling from the death of Kobe. Bryant Kobe Bryant is dead at the age of forty one he he died in a helicopter crash. Flying over Calabasas California on his way to the basketball clinic that he and his daughter were running in. His daughter was a prolific athlete. She was in the plane as well. Gee Gee as she's known by and eight others were on the plane who perished and everybody cannot believe that Kobe Bryant is gone. I wrote this on my facebook page. I wanted to just say this briefly. Because how's the crew. We're going to get together and do an analysis on the life of Kobe Bryant. Later on in the twenty minute morning show For today once once we record but I said this Kobe Bryant is gone. His daughter is gone. His wife and remaining daughters are left left alone in this world. Brothers and sisters. I am a man who has lost. All of his family members like so many. I grieve often in the privacy of myself. The loss of life is heart-wrenching. The only thing we can do is to give each other the love that we deserve from one. Another that Kobe's death breath be a call for us to run into the arms of one another and serve each of 'em be humble and drop are false egos us before our time comes. We must learn from death. Death feeds life. If you understand have the courage to love. Even if people don't love you back this is the love Christ is trying to get us to challenge. People are fake love. Let's be real. He'll put another facebook post on. I wanted to read it to you as I was lying in embiid just looking scrolling through my phone I said as we born Kobe. Bryant's death. Let's remember that tomorrow's never promised to us. Yes we must spend our lives in the way of God and express our gift to the world like. Kobe did with his talent. All of us have a rendezvous with death less reflect on his death as a call to action for our own lives and then I put Hashtag time time and how we use it and the time and how we use it as exceedingly important because we do not know the day or time that the give of life will call it back and just like that. Kobe Bryant is gone just like that and the twinkling of an eye just like that. I wrote another post I want to share with you. I said life is short. Every moment you are alive is a sacred moment. Spend your time loving your moment. And God's universe and inspire others to bring the God inside of them out for the world to see Kobe. Bryant expressed his God hood in his life as a world class athlete. What will you give to the world tomorrow? Fill your life with truth and love for God has created for what God has created out of his mind. That's all of us when God takes good people away from us. He's doing something for the human to ponder and I put in quotes your lives are not your lives. They belong to me and I call interview back and the twinking in the twinkling of an eye to where it all began. This has got talking and then I said so again. Love is the best protection against the fear of death for love. Cast it out all fear. Don't be afraid to love. Love show show unimaginable. Love to your spouse your children in everybody that you come into contact with for you do not know when you're rendezvous would death will occur but when it does you can take the sting of death like a soldier and the army army of the Lord and that's what it's all about. It's about showing love to your fellow brothers and sisters every day Kobe. He is not here anymore but we are here and one day. You won't be here and yes I mean you know so shocking. When we got home yesterday afternoon my son was scrolling through his phone and he just just screamed out? No no no you know what's wrong. He said. Does it. Go on your phone going your phone and I want my facebook page and I post I saw was about the death breath of Kobe. Bryant so death is inevitable. I don't want to sound more on the podcast but we have to talk about it. But we're going to get more into it later with the group when we discuss The life and the death of Kobe Bryant one of the greatest it is athletes ever to walk the earth with the greatest work ethic of any athlete. There's been documented. I mean it's just his. His life is just incredible. You know a working out at three. Am Four am to get better and more proficient and put more distance distance between you and your contemporaries is just an outstanding work ethic that we should all follow Kobe. Bryant rest in peace brother. We're going to follow up on this podcast at just wanted to get something out to let you know that You know we own the Cason. Jason we want to express but God has put us of the life of Kobe Bryant and share some information. Not so see you on the next episode of the Twenty Minute Morning Show. We're GONNA get in-depth and talk about Kobe Bryant.

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Remembering Kobe Bryant

Slate's Hang Up and Listen

1:03:01 hr | 8 months ago

Remembering Kobe Bryant

"The following podcast contains explicit language. Hi I'm Josh. Levin Slates National Editor and author of the Queen. This is hang up and listen for the week of January twenty-seventh two thousand twenty. This week show is about Kobe. Bryant's life and legacy on and off the court on Sunday morning. Brian's private helicopter crashed Ashton calabasas California killing him and the other eight people on board among them was Kobe's thirteen year old daughter Gina. We'll be joined later by Jean Denby. The of NPR's code switch as well as Lindsay Gibbs who writes the power plays newsletter. But I I'M GONNA WELCOME IN MY CO hosts joining me in Washington. DC The author of Word Freak and a few seconds of panic. Stephon fats us. Hey Josh with us from Palo Alto slate staff writer. And the host of slow-burn season. Three Joel Anderson. It'll good morning so on Sunday. It seem like pretty much. Everyone in the world was sharing their thoughts on who Kobe. Brian was what he meant before. Any of that Dole was utter shock that he was dead at age forty one at felt unreal and unfathomable originally had felt also like maybe it was a mistake Like it couldn't possibly have happened. What were your initial thoughts when you heard that? Kobe had had been killed in a helicopter crash. While obviously you know my thoughts went in a lot of different directions right. The first that occurred to me and I did tweet about. This is the parallels to the day that Michael Jackson Jackson died in that the absolute shock of it like I remember looking at my computer is it came across and said that can't be real like even there must be something wrong. Am I looking at like a fake news story. From American Eagle Dot net or something right and then the idea that TMZ was the first news source Wester. report it. And you're like Oh while you know high teams you find this out. who were they getting this information from? And then you know the scramble over the next few hours about bad you know how many people actually died. How did this happen? who was involved And then just sort of grappling with even the part of the quote. I'm using air quotes here complicated legacy of both of those men. There was this a lot that reminded me of that day. That Michael Jackson died and also because Koby mid something unique to La. In a way. Jackson did too that he was in his especially like an la celebrity a creature of the celebrity culture in a way that not many other people are not when I think of L. A.. I think of like Michael Jackson. Jack Jack Nicolson magic and Kobe because not surprised that like so. Many of these guys are Lakers right. So those are the things that I sort of occurred to me and then I went. You know. There's this quote from this two thousand fourteen New Yorker profile and he mentioned the challenge also has to shift or doing something that a majority the of people think that US athletes can't do which retire and be great at something else Giorgio Armani didn't start Armani until he was forty forty there's such life ahead and he's forty forty one years old he's like. Oh God you're right. Kobe COULDA had another thirty forty years. Who knows what else It just seemed that Kobe is not that he seemed invincible. Ah For someone that famous that omnipresent that historically indomitable it seemed as it he was sort of beyond the reality of mortality. And that's sort of what I took from yesterday. I think the outpouring for him was also similar to the outpouring for Michael Jackson by there was no people like Barack Obama or every Athlete but just it was inescapable. His death kind of overwhelmed. Everything in the world and you know sports. The Australian o'bannon Neymars game had at PS G.. And just all anyone could think about or talk about was what coby Bryan meant what. Kobe Bryant meant to them and Stephanie saw that and the NBA where The Games went on and there was this kind of spontaneous league-wide decision of taking twenty four second shot clock violations in aid court backward violations to start the game in honor of Kobe's Jersey numbers that was kind of a love lead create impromptu tribute but also a testament to as I think Lonzo ball who said that Kobe was Jordan the NBA players in the League now now. Kobe was their hero for so many of them. You know I think that's exactly right. I mean you frame athletes and their greatness in the era. That that that you grew up in I mean there's definitely for anyone your memories of who the greatest were when you were. The child are the most indelible I think and for players in the NBA. who were between the ages of twenty and thirty? Kobe was is that guy. I mean. Jordan is really a generation removed for them. He's someone from posters and from videos. Kobe was someone that was watched. So to see that was though spontaneous tributes were fitting. I did wonder whether they should have played at all. I mean you saw saw players crying on the court before games and you can say the athletes do what athletes do and you know you gotTa keep playing. But I'm sure this affected the mental health of these guys. Kyrie Irving did not play that actually got a whole attention Joel. Kyrie gorving was apparently so broken up over Kobe. Bryant's death that he laughed Disneyland. Yeah didn't play against the next on Sunday. You're no it makes a lot of sense and I I you know I. I did see a lot of the conversation yesterday around idea whether or not they should have played and I never know kind of where to go on that because you you know the NBA isn't like you tend to think of it as a family but it's also a business right. I remember Maliki. Sealy died a few years ago. And I'll let you know. Nobody was canceling games for me. seely and we're sort of the line like which players are important enough in which apart important enough for you know players decided to take a day. I don't know I'd take very seriously the idea that those guys are hurting and they didn't WanNa play but I'm also I kinda understand like that's a fairly massive undertaking to decide one day. Hey we're GONNA shut down on all the games and for all sorts of reasons you know what really got me. Yesterday is like watching. Lebron do that very long walk and I don't know who it was that hugged him. but man I was like man this is really weighing on these dudes. And you just don't. I'm struggling to think of another day in the history of the NBA. That that could remember so much. Spontaneous emotional outpouring has to ask Johnson's HIV announcement. Yeah that must be. I remember that I was working. I was an I was riveted. The entire newsroom stopped. It was watching the TV and watching in disbelief. What we were saying another day that with a new you sounded fake right like we dislike? What what do you know we talking about right? Yes absolutely another guy who was mythology is used during his life and Partly with Kobe it was self mythology. He created a legend and and embodied at Sam. Anderson wrote a piece for slate in the mid to thousands about Kobe and and Michael Jordan about how. Kobe lift his whole life in in quotation marks. How Koby tried so desperately to be the next Jordan on the court off? The court has obsessive excessiveness even the way that he treated his teammates. You know Nick Young talking about Kobe was an asshole but you know you still love him but did they actually love him but just the way that he worked so so desperately hard to be Michael Jordan and he got as close as anyone and As we saw with this generation of players they didn't see it as phony. They didn't see it as fake. These are the guys who would know better than we would and they revered Kobe and thought of him as the Pentacle of NBA success an icon for how he worked and how he played on the court. It's like magic magic in that way. It's it's somebody who not only was great but embodied greatness for you know his peers and for his fan. I watched that video the side by side of Jordan and coby. It is astonishing. I mean I remember watching this whatever it was I put together five or ten years ago and and the mimicry the UNCANNY. I mean it's not as if in the moment you know he's dribbling against the jazz or the cabs or whoever and he says I'm in the exact tax situation that was Michael was in a game in nineteen ninety two but it's scary to watch and it does reinforce how driven Kobe Bryant was to be as great as a player who was the greatest before he came into the player. Who for me and Joel? I think for our generation like Michael Jordan was the guy and so it's just it's deep. You know the way that this line has been passed and it's almost too much. The way that Lebron Past Kobe on the scoring list on Saturday and Joel He Lebron one on this long soliloquy about what Koby had meant to him and for this was before the accident afford. Kobe died talking about how Lebron was playing in a high school. All Star game when Kobe was playing in in the NBA All Star game and coby gave him a pair of shoes on the Brown wore them. Even though there were a size too small and just the way that these guys are connected from Lebron onto Kobe to Jordan magic. It's amazing. I think about that a lot because you know if you go back to the comments that Lebron made after the game like if you just took them them out of context it almost sounds like an obituary right like he's he's a- saluting guy that he surpassed and his career. It's like thinking thinking back on the memory of Kobe And then the next the next day for die so eerie and so I actually I go back to two thousand eight Olympics where you know. They called the redeem team had had you know Kobe Bryant Way. Carmelo Chris Bosh Chris Paul all these other great players on it in when things things got desperate in the gold medal game against Spain they deferred to Kobe. And you even hearing about the practices and everything after that all those guys said. They learned so much from watching Kobe from the getting up early. Getting practice watching film studying the opponent that always typically person that skeptical of the idea that one on guys working that much harder than a bunch of other professionals but clearly. There's something that Kobe impressed upon. All these other great players even amongst them they believed it was real. And that's enough for me to say. Well you know what maybe I should listen to these. Because they know who's real they know what's fake. They know what to be impressed by what not to be impressed by. Lebron says he learned from Kobe. Than who am I to say. The Kobe does deserve this place in the game that doesn't deserve this stature in the NBA or and for some truly transcended athletes. That behavior. That drive is you can't be that way without it right but for some of them. It also manifests in their personalities. They are assholes in that driven way. You can't be as good as Michael Jordan or Kobe. Bryant without to some degree being an asshole and alienating alienating people when having some sort of personality not flaw but characteristic that alienates other people that leads you to believe that no one else understands who you are or how driven you are or how you have to be or how important it is for you to work as hard did you do to achieve the greatness that you want and this gets back to the myth making because Kobe turn that negative into the Mamba Mentality. He spun that into. I'm not an asshole. I am the ultimate asshole right And he took that kind of competitiveness obsessive nece impulsiveness and made it into a brand and I think as I was reminded and reading a lot of stuff in preparation for the show that Mamba nicknamed came came out of the sexual assault allegations against him that he came up with that nickname for himself as a way to compartmentalize during during that season in two thousand four. When he stood accused of sexual assault he was going back and forth between Colorado and Games and L. A. and and elsewhere and he said you know? Kobe is the guy who has to deal with. All that all off court stuff and the Mambas just the killer on the court and ends over the years the kind of origins there were largely forgotten and what was remembered was that image that journalists and fans and other players really really bought into he used it as the last words he said in the last game of his career walking off the court he used that as his sign off after his last game after scoring sixty points. Mamba out and that personal myth making Josh that you referred to I think you hear it in some of the tributes are at least the quotations from people after his death with two that. They didn't really know him well that he was you know he could be cordial and a good teammate. or he could be driven asshole teammate. Like Nick young referring but ultimately that nobody was really close to him. Charles Barkley sat in a piece of Jackie macmullan wrote for ESPN. I don't think anybody new. Kobe well I ain't gonNA lie about about that every time I saw him he was courteous. 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A lot of people know about you thing when you talk about on on twitter a lot that you were not a Kobe Fan and it's a day A couple of days where there has been this tremendous outpouring for him and I have just curious kind of how you feel how you felt when you heard that he died and how you felt kind of in the twenty four hour cents. I've actually been Kinda surprised at how disorienting has all been. I mean I think a lot of people said this but I woke up this morning and I was. I was Kinda thought the whole thing you know I mean you know I talked to Joel about a bunch yesterday so I know it's real but it is sort of like a while. It feels like someone that I knew died even though I didn't know him and I wasn't obviously like a fan of him necessarily but I mean we're roughly contemporaries. I mean he's from the Philadelphia area. He's two years older than me so when I was a sophomore in high school he was a senior in his younger cousin actually played for my high school varsity team so call was a sort of like when he was becoming a local legend before he got drafted and he was sort of always around like just in the conversation and so because we're roughly contemporary. I feel like like he's been part of my adulthood and my my adolescence adulthood in a weird way just like a fixture of it just sort of sort of just disorienting that it does so young so he grows up in Philadelphia becomes a star at Lower Merion. High School Brandy to the prom after growing up in Italy after drying up and he said that he was taking his talents to the NBA. Many many years before before Brown Miami. You said that I think he did. The singular. He said talent okay. Let's talk for a minute about Kobe. As kind of teen icon. I mean there was the air ball game against is that the jazz and in Nineteen ninety-seven one of his first year is an NBA. And then after that she fail so spectacularly playoffs he stays up all night. Eight shooting jumpers just like Jane. What do you think about those kind of early Koby years weather and high school in the beginning of his NBA career? It's weird because the the you know as you as you guys talk about in the Post Denver years that wilfulness became almost like a brand right like his sort of singular focus became his brand Dan before. Then that was definitely like what he was known for. It was that he was when he was like at Lower Marian. It wasn't just that he was six when he was reelected in high school but that he was sort of a workhorse. I remember a year after the draft Allen Iverson. Kobe was always in the same. Alan Iverson draft but the sixers drafted Larry Hughes the following year. And coming out of sort of someone. Just the pickup games in the area was that Kobe. Bryant had outplayed every guard who've been playing sort of in the sixers orbit and there were some people apparently wanted the draft Kobe Bryant and the sixers brass apparently because he was just that advance even though he was obviously still a kid but there was a lot of talk that he was going to be a better pro but at the time it was still very anomalous for high school players jump to the league and was also especially anomalous for back at court players to do so and so I think there was a sense that there was going to be this weird difficulty. Spike that you know that that might not translate to the League as effectively as we all know it did. Yeah the one person who didn't I didn't have any qualms about that was jerry. West of the Lakers isn't that there's a story that Brian comes out talk to do a workout for the team. pre-draft and West leaves the workout early and says I've seen enough. He's already better than anybody. That's on our team right. Now right I mean and I think it was a bunch of layers in the Philadelphians relationship for the Philadelphia choice ships. Kobe Bryant I think I sort of resented him personally because when you into the Lakers looked like he was in line to supplant you know Temple Legend Eddie Jones owns aptitude arbitration. I didn't like who is this kid. Like I love that he does and so I had like this long. Interminable list of reasons to Alex do dissipated. It's weird because you mentioned this right class of ninety-six forty-one still like Kobe is always sort of been part of the celebrity landscape in my life. Right and and you know we talked about the brand thing the rap career I remember in some of these media appearances that he'd made over the years to he was clearly like trying to make himself self into a thing like he was on in the house. Remember the show with you. Yeah right he and Derek Fisher like went on there and I was like Oh man I just totally. I totally forgotten that like Hobie hit spent a lot of time like trying to build this image of herself as something more than a basketball. He wasn't just like other dudes. Don't forget the destiny's child video. Yeah yeah that's right. That's right bugaboo. He was in Bugaboo to yeah. I think he was very open with us. I mean he wanted to be will Smith. That's what he said. But isn't that isn't that. A characteristic of Kobe is entire career that he was always looked like he wanted to be something else. In addition to being the greatest he was always really trying very very hard until later until later. I think one of the things that always again like that. I guess spills where it say. What was greeted me about him whether he seemed like such try? Hard That I mean his dalliances dalliances with hip hop. I think a lot of felt like that was like rich. Boy 'cause play you know like he was like you know. He's from the suburbs of Philadelphia. He's you know the child of an NBA player right. He's like ah a rich suburb of Philadelphia. Lower Italian yes exactly right. He's sort of this cosmopolitan kid. Who was trying what seemed right so some of us like I'm trying really hard to be like someone that he wasn't which probably wasn't completely fair for us to think that but you know we were teenagers and I wanted to give to be like you know judicial judicious affair but he always was like clearly positioned himself to be like this pop culture? Figure is kind of remarkable to think. I never really thought about this until yesterday but like the pre rape allegations Kobe. Bryant was just how ubiquitous a pitch man. He was he almost got there right like I mean he was McDonald's commercials. I still remember. That one was a precocious kid walking off with them and like I challenge you to play one one Kobe and he's sort of like how bees Kobe gentle figure which is like almost impossible to imagine you. You know Kobe. The last fifteen years Being somebody who was like joking around with a kid who will be like cutthroat. Oh you know what I mean like. He sort of was clamoring to be that person. The sort of like pop culture figure in a way. That didn't always seem graceful. Felt very very deliberate. It felt very erotic right. Because I remember you you probably Ali remember this right. It seems remarkable to say this. In retrospect but that all star game where he was named MVP in Philly and they booed him and he'd like look legitimately hurt. You know I would never have imagined it like if you move fourteen years. You could never imagine Kobe responding that way looking hurt by the crowd loud booing him right absolutely. I remember that was legitimately surprised by that and I think that was this. Part of the other thing was like Hobie was due to talk about himself as a Philadelphian and was also like genuinely generally disliked by Philadelphians. Once it became a pro. I mean he was a Laker right so he one of our. You know historical rivals. I think there was a sense. That he wasn't isn't real Philadelphian. There's all this stuff that was layered into this contempt for this dude. And the fact that he played for the Lakers. And there's a lot of antipathy Timothy Around the country just for people that play for the Lakers and you know his successes as a pitch man and his success the perception that he was an all time greater or on his way to getting there was cemented by the fact that he won those three straight titles with shack from two two thousand to two thousand two. I mean there are a lot of prodigy's in sports who are anointed as the next great thing. And then don't have the trappings are never attain them to go with it and whatever else you say about Kobe. He succeeded in the terms that we evaluate star athletes. He won those championships. Shack may have been the best player on a bunch of those teams but it was Kobe much of the time. If not all the time who was winning the Games at the end because you know Shaq's free throw issues and and and cody's more than willingness to take the final shot and so when you kinda grapple with Kobe and his try try hardness you also have to reckon with the fact Jean that he was a winner. Yeah so this is why we we go here we go. I remember after those first three titles that I felt like Oh shit they want to run off like seventy eight of these things right like. That's what it felt like. Not Three not not right like that. They were just going to be the team of the next decade Obviously we know that employable one of the things I think that sort of became clear was that it the way Kobe played was not necessarily like conducive in a vacuum to championship basketball right. I mean some of those years in between You know the three P.. And the and the repeat at the end of the decade where he teams like mediocre and they should not have been right. I mean like and part of the reason they he it seems like sometimes he actively hurt them because it was in that in-between period when Kobe became the most divisive right layer like even without the the rape allegation. off-court stuff to strictly from an on-court sense. There was all of this division around Welby as a player. And it's it's shocking to go back and read about the dysfunction on the Lakers before O'Neill was shipped out that crazy. Joshu circulated relate a story from the L. A.. Times mark. Heisler I think what was it from two thousand four just jaw dropping the tales about how much these dudes dated each other. How none of the made any effort to get along? And how Phil Jackson. Basically sort of threw up his hands because he had no clue how to make this work either and was forced to take sides. That's one of the things that's so frustrating about. I mean. At that moment I remember when they won the Third Third Championship. I mean they defeated muscles for the second one which I will never ever forget but when they won the third one against the nets it was like. Oh man they just don't have any weaknesses. That are great. Defensive teams the the the obvious shack. Who was the chief code and Kobe was just like his supreme school? Right was that he was willing to take really difficult shopping. He could connect act enough of them right Like he s like a skill that becomes even more important in the play offs right when like team sets and they know what you're going to run like. Sometimes you need somebody who's GonNa take what would otherwise be an ill-advised nineteen foot fadeaway on the baseline. Like sometimes you need someone who can just knock that now With enough regularity to keep you in games and that's like what. Kobe was really good head and it seemed like to me that he for a lot of like from the end of that run through this sort of indication happen at the end of the arts when they want again was like he couldn't get out of his own way right like that his desire to win that way to win on those terms meant that the team could not do things that would have made them more competitive like doc in aggregate and so. We're Kobe Eighty one point game but like you know just should've never should've other ways he had he become a better facilitator or some other. It done some other things that his team would not have been so broken like. It seemed like he became the Soda heliocentric thing in which everything revolved around Kobe and but he also wasn't a facilitator so only just their offense was SORTA middling and oh like I mean even towards the end. Sorry I have so many things that complaining about towards the end when he re upped on the his extension attention. I think he's on this huge deal. It was like after he was already diminished. I think he'd already been really significantly injured. Sort of hamper the Lakers for another two seasons. I think there. It was a way in which Kobe was like legitimately a selfish person right like That he that they won in they certainly want one five rings. Even you could argue. That he wasn't the best the player in the finals on any of those teams. But you almost wonder like what would have happened. I mean this is what if like he was put together differently. Every brilliant player is selfish. Gene Jordan was selfish Lebron as selfish but they're able to use that to their advantage and at the same time when necessary do the things that are required to make their team do well. I mean Lebron carried all those teams to the final sucked. I mean Jordan didn't get to the finals for six years right. Sure Right. I want to hear what Joel I'd say about all of this because I feel like you don't have the same visser all or didn't have the same visceral and I am so. Oh speaking of visceral like the whole rangs count. The rings thing is so. I've never liked that or a responded to it and yet when gene is going on his has has monologue there. I am thinking about. We'll like he did win five times folks but Joel but Joel. That's a lot of titles. I go back and and forth on this right because I grew up in Houston and so as a result I was not actually even a Jordan Fan. I was like one of the few people that you know like. Well I mean I mean I I would never deny him his greatness but I was just like this is settled out like I was one of the people that would say. Well you know Kareem you could make a very good case. That Corinne was a better player player for longer that he's the goat right so when Kobe comes along I am basically agnostic on his career. He's clearly great but yeah but I didn't think that he was one of the five best players in NBA history But as time went on we started the emphasis on analytics lakes that sort of started to diminish his career and I sort of bought into that a little bit. I was just like well. You know I mean you know. He was wildly inefficient. He just like Jean said you know he took these really difficult shots. He was very difficult for other people to play with like remember the thing. We took a lot of shots and I remember like I mean even like down to the dynamics within the team he mentioned is that like Derek Fisher was the closest team may get overplayed with and then as dirt and he's like Kobe's house like I remember you know things Yup Yup and I I remember things like that but then like I just saw like so we've established that yes Kobe was wildly. Inefficient may difficult for other people to play with him. Maybe he's not so you know one of the top five top ten players that you know we were thinking but then I think about like what the other players have said about him. The people that actually played against them at the reverence they have for him. I always bring things back to football but I think about him in terms of like old school football because we know that like running the Baugh is more inefficient than passing the ball but then like defenders and other people that contemporaries in the NFL like have a lot a lot of reverence for Derrick Henry like tackling Derrick Henry. Man That sucks. That's a very hard game in other people that defended Kobe during that era. They're like Yo like that dude was like the toughest dude to defend and I'm just like maybe there needs to be more space for that. Like you know like improbably will go in the other direction. Now that Kobe you know had this tragic death but I just wonder if like maybe we should be taking hints. It's from the people that actually played against him in some ways and you know they're out there on the floor they know better like what was more difficult check. You know what I mean. And that's it Kinda come around on Kobe in the last few years when you just hear guy after guy be like you know that was one just could not keep her photo of me. That was one guy he would bust my ass blah blah blah. I saw take that seriously. What do you guys think changed and sort of phase? Three of Kobe's career the sort of two thousand nine to two thousand thirteen. When he blew out his Achilles we played with the palace all at one of those two more those two titles he became more of a full player? I mean do you think it was age and maturity thing was having people on the team that maybe you liked him or that he liked had a better complimentary cast right right and they were excessively low. I mean there was a great long team right is that I ms that baby. Just the easiest way to say it. Yeah they had some Continuity Maria was like Lamar Odom. PALCA saw There for a while but I know a forgot about everybody. I forgot about that. They had some really really good pieces. I mean in pockets. All you have someone who's a borderline hall of fame himself and so it was interesting because he had to be a little bit less. That's Kobe and I think part of last of his career was kind of this prolong swans. I think a Lotta people are just like sort of giving him his flowers right like I think his contemporaries knew he was winding down the Achilles injury in June. I mean there was just like this sort of sense that one of the avatars of the League was sort of becoming more diminished. And he thought about it a lot too. He's he's taught in this very like sort of like Nick Dunkin me you know I. I know I'm coming to the end of the thing so there was like the sort of sympathy towards him. I think that those last few teams over the The last ask you really competitive Lakers things we're really illuminating part. Because there were some people who sort of Kobe couldn't do it by himself anymore. Even though like when last models MP which was joke he shouldn't have won. I I think that was the game showing three four nineteen six twenty four. Obviously a test game right but by that point the idea he's the ultimate player had been solidified like even though the numbers did not bear it out right like he just sort of preceded him bright I just think there was all this. Goodwill will that people are ready to extend his direction especially as he became more diminish. I think he became like much more appreciated. I think the same thing happens with people who are less controversial like people I mean people loved Manu towards career because he was like Manoa moments towards the end I think they just has a lot with dirk with like these these people who are like absolutely legends who are in a state of diminishing. I just think it was like this impulse to blow them up a little bit. You know every time I go. That's vintage covy and I was like you know I get it but it was exhausted. There were these stretches in his career where he played firt good teams and stretches where he played for bad teams and when he was on bad teams. He certainly did not subjugate himself to teammates there. were't inferior he didn't quote unquote. Make the right play like Lebron Ron always. Does you know in two thousand thirteen. A thing that I had forgotten in the run-up to his tearing his Achilles he was playing like forty the eight minutes a game they were fighting for eight seed She was old as hell at that point for for the NBA. He's playing more minutes than anybody in the League. Desperately striving to get them into the playoffs where they would have gone their their asses kicked and he was doing it in in a very ostentatious like shot. I way that put himself at the center of the team of of the game. And it was legitimately emily. I think what that team needed to attain the ceiling that they were gonNA attain but it didn't necessarily seem like Kobe was less happier ear less fulfilled in those situations. He where love he loved. He loved playing forty eight minutes a game and and shooting Every time down the floor and then he tears. His Achilles goes in and makes the two free throws and in all the remembrance as we've seen the last couple of days. Joel that is the first or second thing that anybody mentions about. Kobe is that he made those free. Throws after. Kelly's that's absolutely true. I mean I hear what. You're saying there. Jasmine also remember that that there was a time when he got caught on camera. You know dismissing the contributions of Chris Mihm that he was like really cruel to smush Parker Parker that he threatened to go to the clippers and stuff like that and there was the playoff series against the suns the Po Shek Year where he basically quit and game. Seven you remember remember that does that shoot refused to shoot so I mean he. You know you're you're right. I mean towards the end of the career we sort of like made up. You know a a lot of the methodology took over from there but there were some moments in his career where he was not like ultimate team winner. Love Basketball Guy would. He really undermined his teammates in his franchise and didn't necessarily give his all And not just I mean that's just part of being a competitor right. I mean that's fair for anybody else but like with Kobe. Like that kind of gets missed because we just decided that he was the heir to Jordan. You Know Nick Greens piece yesterday. It was fantastic. It was exactly right is like there won't be another copy specifically because the way he plays gone the way he plays as just has left the league even the players who sort of who patted themselves up to him like the. Marta rose in the Arkansas. Really inefficient right. They're they're considered like less valuable than other players who can shoot threes or get more fish odds and so in a real way that Kobe Bryant was the last of this line of mid range shooting hybrid leading swimming. And I just. I don't know that that to me going up in the nineties. That was always the way I understood. Like the quintessential basketball player like that was the apex of the sport. was somebody who could do those things. I'm sad about what he represented for basketball on a bunch of levels gene demby of NPR's code switch. Thank you very much. Thank you all right. I wanted to let you guys now. A reminder that jaw Paul is going to be touring for slow-burn season. Three big into pockets can be a really good live. Show totally new story interviews with gas people that knew begin to pack as well as other journalists. And it's GonNa be in DC on the fifth of February New York on the sixth. La Play on the Eleventh San Francisco on February the thirteenth can find out more information and get tickets at slate dot com slash live. Also wanted to let you know that in our bonus segment for slate plus members this week. Joel and Stephan and I are going to continue our conversation about Kobe Bryant. Let's our whole show. Oh this week and the bonus segment is more of our conversation. We had a lot that we wanted to say. And talk about if you want to hear it and you're not a member signing for slate plus just thirty five dollars for the first year you can sign up at slate dot com slash hangup plus our. Let's bring in Lindsay Gibbs. She is the author of the power plays newsletter newsletter. About Women and sports which you should subscribe Lindsey. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks so much for having me back in twenty sixteen. You wrote a piece titled The legacy of the Kobe. Bryant rape case for think progress in the aftermath of his death it has been fascinating to watch how the rape case has been rehashed by the media and I wanted to ask you first sort of sure your perspective on how you think. The inclusion of this chapter of his life has been handled. I think it's tough because we the media and fans didn't do a really good job reckoning with it and discussing it when he was alive so it makes sense that it would be really also tough even more tough to discuss thus when he's Passed away especially so tragically. I think I'm seeing two extremes. I'm seeing people who were really affected the rape case and really remember that so much and so they're using that as a way to say that all the other grief about about him is invalid. And I'm also seeing the other extreme which is people going into deep detail talking about his his on-court legacy awkward legacy while referring to the rape cases that Colorado thing and not going into details and I really neither are those are sufficient. I mean I think it's it is a big part of his legacy. It's one that he never really properly grappled with and the media let him get away with is not grappling with an addressing for so long and so. I don't think you can completely ignored of the same time. I don't think it should be the only thing that is discussed and I understand. Why a lot of people wanna discuss other things about his legacy right now on? ESPN which is how. I had it on all day yesterday and this morning they were really sticking to sports. There was not. I don't WanNa say on sportscenter. There was not any and he mentioned because I wasn't watching the the whole time but if there was it was extremely passing and it was entirely focused I guess as you would expect on the outpouring from his NBA peers from other people and the world from the action and the Games from the documentary. Is They Don. Where the all time greats are talking about Kobi's greatness but it creates an? ABC News did a special report report on Kobe. That only mentioned it. Very very very glancing lay and was extremely Hey geographic towards Kobe and it creates this kind of environment. Where if you do mention if you do talk about it if you do try to reckon with it it's seen as not in keeping with the tone of the moment moment of the coverage of being being reverend towards someone who has you said died tragically? It feels like based on what what's normative that you're You know being in politics. I'm how if you bring it up right. You're being a social justice warrior too soon as the thing everyone everyone says then. It's hard though because like I said I mean nobody you know I. We get attacked the same way when I brought it up when he was alive. You know so there was never her A right time to talk about it. I don't have the the right answer here. I know that I because I wrote this piece. And people have been reaching out to to me over the past twenty four hours. You know my direct messages on twitter are filled. It's either You know it's it's very angry in the very ugly but it's also a lot of survivors reaching out who are having very complicated feelings and are really upset that they're not hearing talked about and Wanna I know there's something wrong with them because it's all they can think about. Because the thing about that rape cases part of the legacy left was the extreme victim shaming aiming that. His lawyer Did in the media ran with and the way that victim was treated. I mean their studies that say like it kept other people from coming forward. People saw how she was treated and they didn't want to come forward after that because of her there was no anonymity. The law didn't protect her. The legal system didn't protector in the media. Certainly didn't protect her. And so a lot of people do remember number that and remember him. Never Never reckoning with that and never never saying that him him still enforcing forcing the nondisclosure agreement. You know a couple years ago. He did a interview with the Washington. Post a big feature and they reached out to her and you know she couldn't talk because the NDA and so. I think that that's important. That impacted a lot of people who as did of course his basketball and his work in women's basketball ascot ball and his relationship with his daughter. It all exists and it's uncomfortable that it all exists but it does and ignoring. It doesn't help Alpine thinking knowing. It just makes survivors from all communities. Feel more shame. Feel more confused and feel like they're not a part of love. You know our culture our society year I mean I think you know sort of building on your point there that A big part of the glue that holds rape culture should together as the idea that what happens to women matters less than the prerogative of men right or like the way that we want to remember Mun or you know how they go about their our lives right. It's like we're always discussing like intentions or whether it's indiscretion you know like it's Oh it's a youthful indiscretion or something like that survivors. Evers learned like what happened to them doesn't matter and so people get that from police. You know the colleges institutions and now sports and so we're always like prioritizing -tising like here with Kobe like people sort of dancing around the idea that Yo this dude was like credibly accused of rape and like no. This is not a good time to talk about it. You know but like back back then it was like Oh this is a guy with the future you know. And he's expressed remorse. He says he didn't do it then. So it's important to like keep it in context or he was. It was successful and he wouldn't have needed to do that. So why are we discussing. This is not that or win is a win is ever a good time to talk about this stuff you know if it had happened in his youth we said he had a great future. But now you know yesterday when we you know we saw people talking about trying to give some context of what happened Colorado. They say well you know. He died holding his daughter. He's a father now. We shouldn't be talking about how well man wins it. When is it okay to talk about this being a part of his legacy? It makes me mad because I just think that people need to let survivors have that and even to sit with it for themselves if your support in your admiration for. Kobe is strong enough. Like if you like if you really really loved Kobe and he was really important to you and you idolized him. That should be real enough to sustain analysis or review of his life as he lived it like. Nobody is telling you how to mourn that you can't feel sorry for the fact that he died that it was a tragedy because it is but like that should not therefore dictate dictate the way others choose to remember him or what we want to say about his death. If you have a problem with it used to get the hell off social media use a turn off TV in more on your own in time. But I don't think that anybody should like get mad at people for wanting to talk about this and talk about. Hey did he make proper. Meant how did this affect the victim. The victim victim today is watching all of this. She's out there somewhere. Watching all of this and people are saying we don't want to talk about that now is if what happened to her or what she says happened her. It didn't it matter and that's just really frustrating. Yeah and victims everywhere are watching. Survivor is in your life right now. Everyone listening you know. They're survivors in your life listening listening to this and reading this and hearing all the dismisses and it's and stuff because I do here you know I hear a lot of people from the black community. Say don't tell us how to hear people in the women's basketball community who humint so much they don't tell us how to feel right now but the fact is there are survivors in all of these communities. Who survivors aren't in the community all to themselves is there part of all these other communities and it's so it's so tough because I've been hearing from so many of them and I don't know what to tell? Tell them I mean I. You know I've been very vocal about my feeling on Kobe's legacy and the way the media let him get away with it and I was crying yesterday over. His is death and over the death of g g like all of these emotions are valid. I think what what gets tough is when you said you'll you start saying how he mattered to me. Matters more than how he mattered to you you know and how he mattered to you is inconveniencing me. So you need to be quiet. And on the specific acidic matter of the case itself Lindsey. It's incredible instructive to go back and read what happened because the charges were horrifying are fine. The police interviews with victim and with Bryant were incredibly disturbing and when the case was resolved and people might not remember but the victim declined to testify and prosecutors wound up dropping case and then there was a civil lawsuit on a settlement settlement with Bryant. Bryant issued an apology obviously through his lawyers. NPR people whatever but the apology. Read through the Lens of today hey is also astounding. I mean Bryant acknowledged that he may have sexually assaulted her basically admits that he in all likelihood hood raped or he acknowledges that she said it was not consensual and reading through all of that again. You know it's hard to read need and it's important to read and it's important to fit it into the framework of this global icons life. I'm GonNa read from that apology. A he said in part although a truly believe this encounter between us was consensual. I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way. I did I also want to just note the part from The police reports and interviews. That is the most chilling when you go back and look at it. The victim alleged victim sad that Kobe said to her. You're not gonNa tell anybody right during that the Alleged assault. She says I said No. And he didn't hear me or asked me to say it louder. Wanted me to turn around and look at them while I said it. She said that Brian Astor the question. Three or four times when I went back and revisited this in two thousand sixteen was when he retired that I wrote this my piece. I didn't remember that much about it. You know I've been in highschool during the time. I remembered the apology ring that he gave a NASA. I remembered that press conference. I remember it a little bit about it but I didn't remember are the details and really going back and digging into how disturbing like you said. Allegations really were how she was treated by the media. And that apology. I mean who. There's a lot to it. There's just a lot to it. There's a lot too and I think that like there is a lot that we can learn in from it if we wanted to write. It's funny we talked about like how shocking yesterday was. Do you know what else was shocking. When those allegations came out like I remember waking up in bed and seeing it you know the ESPN crawl? You know Kobe Bryant. You know Charged with rape facing rape allegations and I was like what like it was. It was a shocking to me is looking yesterday at the news that he had died and I can remember I was like what how I remember. I was twenty four twenty five year old. It was like one of the first times which is sad. I mean it's terrible but the idea that just because just because somebody could have sex with whoever they want that sometimes they they rape you know what I mean like I was like. Oh Wow like somebody. Who's accusing him of that? So we could learn from that but also I think the other thing is too This is something that like men in people. That perpetuate wait you know. Sexual Violence against people have to learn that. I believe Kobe when he says that he doesn't believe that he raped her. But that is like a failure first of all. That doesn't isn't like clear. You like in terms of your legal or moral obligations to other people but like it is a failure of consent by a failure to learn what consensus because I've always said this about James Winston too I was like I truly believe that Jameis Winston believed that he's not a rapist that he committed sexual assault. But like that doesn't mean you didn't do it and I can see that's the sort of thing maybe people can learn. I don't know if we're going to learn that lesson or not if you're ever going to grapple with because even right now people don't want to talk about this as part of Kobe's legacy but like there's a chance there to be like. Oh this is a good time to review witness consent mean to you and maybe even going back to the derrick rose case dirt roads in his civil case where he's they asked him what consent was and he's like. What does that mean is that am I getting that right yeah? He displayed a lacking lacking knowledge of what consent was. And Yeah I totally agree especially for these. These athletes their whole life. They've been you know. Lifted up praised by everyone in Maher. You haven't heard no often from anybody about anything. You know because of because of their status and their talent and it's Yeah Yeah I completely agree with you and I think I kept hoping as Kobe grew up and especially as he became such a fixture in the women's sports community and and he had these daughters. I kept hoping that maybe he would reckon with you. Know some way in somehow and obviously we will never know if he would have but it always felt like a missed opportunity for someone who did seem so insightful and to care so much about women that that conversation couldn't be had and obviously now. It won't be Lindsey Urine Connecticut Right now the Yukon Women are GonNa play the. US Women's national team on Monday nights and Kobe. Head talked about one of the clips that circulating was him telling Reggie Miller that it his his daughter G G was hell bent on playing for Yukon. And you know another clip. Let's actually play it now. This is from Jimmy. Kimmel live live where Kobe talks about again. His daughter G G G think your daughter Might WanNa play the WNBA. She does for sure this kid man. Happy be great man the best thing the best thing that how willing to go out and fans come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and it'd be like you gotTa have a boy you gotTa have a boy. Somebody carry on tradition the legacy. She's like oh I got this. Aw got this Kubis relationship with G. G. how they would go all around the country and watch games together Girls Girls High School Games. NBA Games Women's college coached. Our team A team they were the helicopter was on the way to to travel games. uh-huh Lenzi this is something that people really appreciate it walk. Ob was alive The fact that they had this relationship. And we're doing this together and there's band and so much more talk about it sense You know the helicopter crash to it's staggering to know how much he meant to the women's basketball community and of course everyone everyone on team. USA was close to him and a lot of them know him through the Olympics an atrocity and she was always called White Mamba that was always her nickname. Aim at practice on Sunday. The news broke right after practice. So haven't gotten to talk to any of the players yet but I imagine it's going to be very emotional night because of what he meant to USA Basketball and to the Yukon program specifically clearly. And you know the more I think about it and all the work he did with women's college players women's high school players the pros in how really passionate he was. It makes me sad that such an exception right that his love for in support of these women is such an exception to the rule. And I think that if there's anything. I hope that a lot of people can learn from him is that I hope that maybe you know other men in sports who have you know positions of power will. We'll follow in his footsteps in this way and other dads will take their daughters to. WNBA game encouraged their love of sports. Because I I really think that part of the reason why all the work he did meant and so much is because it was so rare so rare to see in icon of his status any follow every bit of the women's game the way he did Stefan you've coached your daughter's teams for years and that's spend a huge part of your life the coaching and how it's strengthened and built your relationship with your daughter and her teammates. This must have been really played hard for you to think about that. In the context of Kobe entirely I can completely relate. I don't have an elite athlete as a kid. I don't have aspirations nations for my daughter to play to play professional sport but realizing sort of how he got it. He was a good youth sports coach you now. He understood from the clips I've seen from the testimonials to there's a piece Tom Ferry formerly of. ESPN WHO's now one of the directors of the Aspen. Aspen Institute Their Youth Sports Campaign and Farry tell the story about Kobe getting outraged watching an opposing basketball coach berate eight and scream at the girls on his team during a game and Kobe. Going up to the guy after the game. And saying if you ever do that again you're going to have to deal with me. He understood like like what kids need. He also had a really competitive streak. I mean I think I've mentioned on the show on sow. Kobe had gripped participation trophies as unnecessary area and the only use for them was that kitchen. Use them as motivation to become great again so he had the drive of the lead the superstar but also the gentle understanding about what kinds of of coaching and teaching kids need to enjoy. And do well at Sports Sports Joel and the New Yorker profile by a Ben McGrath from two thousand fourteen he talks about G G who then only seven years old and how competitive she was and playing games with her and how much he saw of himself and her and I put together a piece yesterday just looking hang at You know from Kobi's instagram. The highlights that he posted that highlight videos from ball is life and slam of gee-gee and watching her. You know play and how great she was. It's real is really devastating to watch those videos. I mean what. What are your thoughts about gee-gee in particular? Yeah no I think like that like it's an obvious tragedy in addition to like just the nobody should die. They've thirteen years old right but then like we're denied the opportunity to see her grow. I wonder whatever she was going to become like the idea that Kobe would had a high level. Basketball player in the women's game is something that like I mean that would have been fantastic of like watched him dote on her be. There's that it's happening and like watch her. You know become whoever she was gonna be. You know that's just really hard like watching those videos of her seen. How much like even down to her biting her Jersey in the way that he did you know that he was known like the mannerisms that she had picked up right? This is really heartbreaking and I mean like this. I wish I had something more profound to say other than that. That sucks but it's really really really really sad and it is interesting because I remembered from that story. Sorry if I have it right The New Yorker profile at one point they were very heavy into soccer. Because that was my Kobe's I sport that he was really good at really great in all of a sudden flips and like a few years and it also Kinda got him back into the game too right because he mentioned that which. I don't necessarily believe that he barely early watch basketball anymore. You know keep he totally had walked away from the game and like you know it was that wanted to watch basketball. Not You know so. He decided to get. I'm back into the game but If that is true would a gift. What a gift that she gave him in that way too it's not just like what he imparted on her? I wish she gave him an opportunity to see the game through another Lens. An opportunity to re-engage with not just the men's game but the women's game so yeah it's just it's just really heartbreaking man and you just hope that whoever is around Vanessa Bryant right now is holding her real tight. Yeah and Lindsey. I mean I think is you can tell from this conversation nation. Kobe wasn't any one thing that we can have a conversation about him that encompasses the sexual assault allegation and his parenting parenting and his relationship. With you know women players on that. That's the conversation we should be having. I think the important thing is. How one on does it necessarily have to invalidate the other right? It's not about competition between these facets of him but it's about holding being them together you know completely drowning out one or the other. I think one of the things that's made this so hard is that Kobe was so present isn't I mean he just been you know tweeting Lebron. He's courtside those games. I'm sure he would have probably been at this Yukon. USA Basketball game tonight right. He's everywhere he was still such an active presence in the sports world and in pop culture large and just to have him gone on so suddenly. It's it's stunning. Lindsey Gibbs writes the powerplays newsletter. She's also one of the panelists on the burn. It all down podcast had cast Lindsey. Thank you for taking the time to be with us today. Thank you so much for having me all right. That is our show for today. Our producer is Melissa. 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EMERGENCY PODCAST 49 - R.I.P. KOBE BRYANT

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EMERGENCY PODCAST 49 - R.I.P. KOBE BRYANT

"So check it out y'all Basically I I let you guys know that I'm not doing a podcast for the malls episode. it is January anyway twenty six it is Sunday it is actually currently right now. It is currently six forty two PM. PM Today was a was going to be a great day. Today was going to be a thirty five person very chill friends and family Party at Dave and buster's and As you might be able to hear in the background my kids are going crazy upstairs. I don't really give a fuck. I'm not trying to I I can't close the door to make everything quiet and everything and try to do everything in Studio I. Just that's what this is. This is emergency podcast. I I had no choice I wasn't planning on recording anything again. I'd mentioned before I was GonNa tell you guys tomorrow morning on my actual birthday. Hey listen we're taking the day off It's my birthday and we're just GONNA take the day off and Pretty much I just wanted to tell you guys that I've been around some a lot of death you know it's it's part of life and I've said before. Hey man listen you know what lifebuoys goes on right. You know life goes on no matter what happens when a how big at how impactful you were how much alleged you were. Whatever it was and I realized that that's true but for right now this shit is I've been in a state of shock all day My party was very dull. It was just chilling. I don't really care. It's not about that at all. Some people understood a lot of people. I mean a lot of people understood some didn't This was just fucking fucking insane. This is just enormous loss to stood world. This is this is a I hate people like. Oh Yo you think this was as big as Michael Jackson was as big as to park like managed to some different dishes enormous. You know this is colossal. I can't think of in my lifetime of you know tomorrow. Forty thirty seven years of living. If there has been anything there's been a social media was around. Michael Jackson died on twitter. And you know a little bit of my space but since instagram has started. There's definitely hasn't been anything this pick. I can't even think of anything. No disrespected nippy. Nipsy man listen to what a great dude you know. That's my boy is a friend happened to be a friend This is not some shit like this you know he was a friend Kobe. A friend Rest in peace Kobe Bryant in. I can't believe it. You could give me one million guesses. I don't know how along with take two to guess a million things and that's the last thing I would have guessed to happen a day before my actual birthday. It would have been detained feeling. It's just weird as fuck. My son was born in twelve seventy am September twenty fourth And everyone knows new. I was talking all day about a my wife when the labor like it around to the hospital like around two o'clock three o'clock shit man. Hopefully you know You know some contracts and everything else like hopefully no babies born the day you know it'd be dope and the crazy thing is one of the twenty third of July and riders one of the twenty. The third of May all. My kids are twenty third. Pretty much you know. Whatever after but I'm saying he knows like twenty four and my number our twenty four and forty two high school and in forty two all through college but twenty four? The number always been fond of Kobe. Eight but it's just like he's won. The twenty third owns just. These numbers is just weird. You know and just really wanted him to be born on that fucking on that. twenty-third are just 'cause Kobe's birthday and You know some folks come shit. Kobe came here and He he came. He became really close with my neighborhood. Name Dougie D. and Dougie D.. was you know it is a legend dog from just that whole. The whole mid Wilshire Mid City area. You know what. I'm saying like doubt Fairfax John. Burroughs Mansfield a whole when you heard that you heard that Tracy meals episode you know and and Dougie D.. Had Kobe with him everywhere he went you know yet he was women. Do was my neighborhood. It was just crazy so I met Kobe early. On you know and He's rookies eighteen years old. He's coming to. La does trying to figure things out house hanging out with shack a lot during that time. He you know we go to Laker Games and shit and you know He would he would see you know. Shack was heavily tourism tourism with Shacks Company. The world is mine I remember going to fuck in the a a powerhouse and twist was also record label and Peter Guns and Lord tweak had a song called uptown. Baby was one of the huge fucking songs if you Are over you know. Are you're over. Forty you remember. That song was fucking enormous. Huge fucking song used that fucking That that steely Dan and Fuck man miles man you. Do you have a clip of that uptown. Baby Peter Guns in a law tweak. Please play that real quick man. Play sniper knepper. Quick got crazy is all saying crazy new suit play in crazy day. Strike would be it. Wasn't this probably never know. So tell me where you rob regrets now. The crown anyways huge fucking song and they're performing at powerhouse which shack and we all wrote up her twit. Some deep and Kobe was was was was like at that time. Kobe was probably ninety. Eight was like a second year. Kobe pulled up. He pulled up in a towncar which was weird at the time. You know what I mean. People want to pull up in town cars back then. It wasn't like it. Was You know you had your own whips and this man. If you driven you driven. It was weird. He pulled up in a town card. Kobe was a Kobe's live in Playa del Rey. Kobe had a you'll couple of different has so many fucking crazy memories and shit but I will never forget When I was a heading our aftermath is actually see fucking was it ninety seven hundred ninety seven? I'm not exactly sure man but I remember were at the you know the the Hollywood roscoe's right on a on a Wilcox in Kobe pulls in artist it was a screw called Nayed. SERENADE Army group that we have signed to a doctor John Before actually haven't got there but And and like Oh shit has coby coby went went to the prom brandy was like a big deal. You know whatever and and I seen. I seen Kobe and I was like. Oh Shit I was like Yoko. What's going on man as April and we've chopped up man? He's Yom spin bars right now and I was like all right. Let me hear something so we walked over to my car. It was ninety seven because I have my own three so we walked my three at four door. I'm three and we pulled up to the car and I start playing some mob deep instrumentals and Play mobs even instrumentals. And he's he's freestyle for like fucking seven. Eight minutes straightening spring pretty good was trashed. She was spin bars. He was rhyming and he was bus and and is crazy. No we went inside and we start eating. You know whatever he always had a fucking number nine you know what I'm saying. That the WASCO special now. They caught the Obama special and then One time You know I was detained Granville. This was during the heyday heyday. Like studio fifty four of our time. This was this. It was a no clubs like this divey no celebrities come out it was a different time and sled race can be you know. Free wasn't cameras and they all time and was anywhere. We're near the age housing. We will get you in the back and the ABC which is alcohol Beverage Control Company and they were given heavy fines. And Shit. You know dwelled there Russell Simmons every week Naomi Campbell fucking. Dan ackroyd Chris Farley I I can't Owen Wilson just so many fucking Tobey Maguire Leonardo capital of capitals. Almost every week we're chilling party and stuff so it's not Kobe in there you know. We got to see the club. And I was GONNA Lakers Laker Games a lot back then Shit dog this is just fucking crazy man a earlier He was just shocked the whole time especially going to who my birthday party then I get a place of just finally all hit me and I just went to the side. I just I teared up in a minute. You know I just don't know is crazy and I realize he meant so so much more to even people obviously much younger than me You know two kids today. That data in other teens whatever that watched him growing up in those guys that are in the early thirties. That really grew up with this dude. You know if You were born in eighty four. You know you are thirteen when this motherfucker was was was a rookie. And you're watching this shit and you're watching them play through your teenage years. High school grew up watching Kobe. Play he has a different feeling. Just the coffee with Magic Johnson. You know it was just crazy and it just he he was the fucking coat. pro- You guys have heard me mention Nike Talk Nike Tacos. One of the first forms. In fact it was the first form I ever joined on the Internet and it was community a sneaker heads and there was a lot of it was fucking. Dj Am was me fucking fucking while a it was Fuck Man Connie's debris browser but like a lot lot of real. Og Sneaker heads on their bobby. Hundreds of Christ style and just neak from Antisocial Club and Nike Talk Man Does is just. It's so with Nike Talk. We used to have these summits. We the sneaker summit you know the bay area started nor cal summit volume one bunk tune number one number three and when it was was all these sneaker heads calm bring Green Cup shoes. They wear shoes named each other online. That's what it was wasn't anything weird it was and with the Internet and there was a bunch of dudes like who heart Lynn fluential. Today's and we are I Our First Nike Summit in North I'm sorry in in a in Van Nuys at Balboa Park and then we had a puts them in is to host them all the time at the At the dodger games in allergy would sponsor it and then one fucking time out of nowhere. I don't know fucking why I fucked hosted I just said fucking which GONNA buy three hundred. I t the this is the first and only time in my entire life that I did a Nike. Some in only eleven people showed up it was really small and we just bought bleacher seats were up in the fucking nose bleeds and it was the fucking game that Kobe scored eighty one. Like I was in the building. He got goosebumps. Thinking about is fucking crazy. I was physically there in. Never been in the nosebleeds. In my life it was a first and last time I was a nosebleeds. And he'll just a legendary moment Bought the three P. to our city and You know for those of you. Who Know How big of a Laker Fan I am? I really tried to downplay. I watch everything we'll talk about all the time I like talk about things I really understand and no I don't like to speak about so I don't know Ab of was so deep sea hawks this season I was like you know is obviously been different I'm I'm obviously not huge Lebron Fan but you know who oh fuck knows now I just I just remember the exact specific reason a bunch of little small things. I can't remember the exact reason why even put a hate Lebron and and today I'm like fucking who cares. You know Kobe. He's gone masset and me being a father with a daughter you know like I'm trying to teach learn how to play basketball ball now and hopefully he's good. I don't know I don't really have those aspirations for much. Wanted to be happy but you know watching these these videos and the fact that that there's so much information because I have so many mutual friends with Kobe and you know for whatever reason you know he doesn't have a ton of friends I don't either but there's there's there's one degree of separation between me and him and his saint about meal not make it about me for some you miserable cock sucker piece of Shit motherfucking dumb stupid. The people had some dumb ass bitch. Say something this bitch is a fucking bitch you got nothing else to do but have sell your pussy on twitter and like you have a fucking. You Ain't doing shit with your life you've only fans pages which you proud of bitch and I'm basically reflecting on a friend of mine I meant to. La was super fucking impactful. Awful to my city to me and my life to my favorite team of all time of all sporting of anything pro sports never loved. Anything WANNA LAKERS. And you're worried about me talking about experiences that remind me of dude an emmy paying a tribute to a friend of mine. who was actually a friend you you know and like I think about that? I'm just like bitch. How miserable I you people so fucking stupid? Cinderella Lebron the plate motherfucker. Listen I got love. Lamar everyone who I had an experience with them. I'm talking about someone I knew for fucking twenty plus years that I spent time with kicked it. Eight fucking Burgers with went into fat Burger. When went to clubs went to games? Watch you know do show me love. I'm like like what kind of stupid people out there. But we're not going to focus on that anyways. Listen we lost legend today. Life is not going to go on for a little bit. Don't know if I'M GONNA post fucking wanted to post this the speed of light tain 'cause I was GonNa Call Jarvis but just like man think tomorrow Commie piece got up wait you know. Fuck the grammys. I don't give a fuck about the grandma and give fuck who fuck everyone at the grammys. You know. Of course it's like all we pay tribute but they gotta do what they gotTa do. But listen man like if I was invited tonight and it's what I wouldn't fucking go period you know I was invited to. But I'm not GonNa talk about anything else sidebar. We just talking about fucking Kobe right now and his daughter got rest in peace rest in peace to everyone who died on that plane. I mean on the helicopter you know. Kobe was so cool man. He let people borrow his helicopter and things and you know he. He frequented avoiding traffic from Newport beach. Boom to Calabasas thousand oaks actually where his his training facility was and He let my friend Nicholas Bichon ball his helicopter him and Roxie Mother Front Roxy and let them helicopters they can go to a coachella and you know Kobe's a great deal you know is so what he did for kids and all the camps and everything going on his foundation is just fucking crazy man. You know So so my favorite sneakers in the world are Kobe sneakers and just is this crazy. Man I don't know it just emergency podcast WanNa let you guys know that I had to pay tribute to someone I respected to the utmost. You know everyone has all these people. I see a lot of slander about this. And that versus who versus that. Listen manage shits all done now. You know the legend has gone man decoded past. You know For those you who fathers man hug your daughter's man you never know it's just a fucking you know. It's it's a mystery. If you know you you can make it home safely these days. You know you just never fucking know you really never know embrace your mortality on this earth life is very short Rest in peace Kobe. Bryant you know my condolences to Vanessa and your other children. I cobb bless Mac Cambodia daughter. Thirteen years young the coaches and their kids that are on the helicopter. This fucking crazy. I saw the footage of the helicopter crashing crashing. It's fucking terrifying Winds were fucked up. I'm not ever getting on a helicopter fucking again you know. You should helicopter from New York City to the Hamptons and just not doing that Shit. It no more tell you the truth. I'm just I'm not rambling. I'm just I'm so shocked and still still in a state of shock. Eight fucking hours later I I. I don't know what to say you know CES fucking crazy. Seeing the impact. He had on other people. This is just a whole different level. This is just it's crazy crazy Hope everyone has a great week. Yelm my mom my birthday is tomorrow. You know I'm just chilling. How do anything special you know GonNa take pictures of this piece obviously into a little bit of work? But I'm just GONNA kick off family. I'm just basically you guys. Don't understand man that's that's all that really matters to me and I really appreciate my mom. And my my sister and My cousin in the dust brothers and people showed up to my birthday today my party and he's very chilly. You know. My kids got to have fun. I didn't really get to down. I played one game and PLO Bill Star Trek in Thank Popeye Vasquez. Always hold me down Dave and Buster's corporation for holding me down shot Mabo Jay Park in a lawrence. I for pulling up but again man I I Maybe on the next episode which obviously jobs on Thursday. How a little bit more to say about Kobe? I don't really we know you know I mean just a love. The way he played man you know he's one of the few that you know from the the Kelly's just come back and just I don't know I I The Lakers haven't been the same without him. You know it's it's going to be a long time on the call. Lebron is not brought. That feeling back you know like when when magic left it was tough when Nick was there you know I loved it but it was. You know different again. Kobe three peat their shack and just when shack shack left at. I felt the piece of a piece of Lakers die with me. When Kobe retired I was like damn man? You know fuck it. It's just a different different team team. And just see him not playing. Just be be old and just or not be old. But he's forty one you know it's just I don't know man you know I'm real cold. I'm confused and I'm really sad but I had to pay my respects to a legend. You know changed the game of basketball so fucking crazy ironic that Lebron surpassed them last night and But the fours you know four's always they're always the threes you know. He was number three in the top scoring. Now he's number four. I don't I don't know listen guys man again much love Already appreciate all. The birthday wishes Mana Game Birthday January twenty seventh even put appreciate it. I don't know what to say Hopefully I can pay my respects. I Dunno this. A very strange week is very crazy. he he died in the Aquarius calendar. I I don't know what else to say again except I'm in shock rest in peace. Kobe Bryant this emergency podcast behind the baler and were cited out all right P.. Black Mamba Mamba out love. You may get some some soft music from Lakey man. Ah just to to say rest to a legend Cobi They don't.

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Kobe Bryant, 13 year old daughter among nine killed in helicopter crash, Fans, players mourn Kobe Bryant following NBA legend's death

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Kobe Bryant, 13 year old daughter among nine killed in helicopter crash, Fans, players mourn Kobe Bryant following NBA legend's death

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NBA Titles two time Olympic gold medals a most valuable player award and even an Oscar the crash that took his life. What happened earlier today in the town of Calabasas just outside of Los Angeles and the cause is still under investigation but we expect to learn more shortly the National Transportation Safety Board the TSP? They will hold a briefing any moment as it sends investigators to the crash site. CNN is covering all angles. Those of this breaking news story. Let's start with our correspondent. Nick Watt he's live on the scene in Calabasas for us. Nick first of all. What are you learning about the crash? Well we'll if we know that the FAA is already on scene as you mentioned the NTSB on the way. I don't think we will get any official answers for quite some time but what we know from speaking to people in this area. Is that when the crash occurred earlier. This morning. This was a very foggy morning. Visibility would have been low. I spoke to a pilot friend of mine who said he decided not to fly today. Because of the visibility I also speaking to people who live here on on the other side of the valley from the crash. They say they heard a loud impact. which might suggest this was not a controlled landing gone wrong? This was something else so visibility visibility of course something being spoken but I must stress Wolf. We have no official indication. What we're seeing over at the crash scene there? There is still a little bit of smoke this. The crash ignited a brushfire on that hillside in the past twenty minutes. Or so we've seen the flashbulbs of cameras taking pictures of the sea. Now first responders had to deal with the fire. I while also trying to preserve this scene. But you know what Wolf here in Los Angeles. The how and the why are very second-rate at the moment Kobe Bryant is dead at forty one years old. That is what people care about here. I'm surrounded by hundreds of people many wearing Lakers jerseys. So I'm wearing Kobe. Bryant Jerseys one young man I spoke to said I'm still in disbelief. Denial he said Kobe. Bryant is who made me watch basket ball in the first place now. We have spoken to two parents who were waiting at Kobe's Mamba Sports Academy there's a tournament going on there this morning Kobe's team. His daughter seemed G G. They were supposed to be playing there at noon. Did Not make it now. We did just hear from the Sheriff Wolf confirming there. There were nine people on board eight plus the pilot. We know Kobe Bryant. We know his thirteen year. Old Daughter. gee-gee we've also learned from the Orange County Register newspaper that John Altobelli who was a baseball coach at Orange County. College was also on board. Note names beyond that and you know what will the sheriff summed it up. He said we're not going to give out any more names right now. All he said is God. Bless their souls wealth and our deepest deepest condolences to all all of those wonderful families indeed. Nick we'll get back to you. I want to show our viewers right now. A moment of silence held in Kobe. Bryant's honor at the Denver Nuggets game just a little while ago right as the tragic news first broke. Watch this ladies and Gentlemen Basketball fans a tragedy has befallen the world of basketball earlier today at the the age of forty one Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. In twenty seasons with the Lakers. Kobe was a seventeen time all all star two time. NBA Finals Mvp two-time Olympic gold medalist and five time NBA champion the NBA. And the game of basketball will mourn this loss together. Please join us in a moment of silence. Kobe Bryant rest in peace. Mamba Ombu very sad moment indeed joining us on the phone right right now. Kennedy Smith the former NBA Player of the Co host of the NBA on TNT. Our sister network. Kenny is I. I don't know what to say like so many millions aliens and millions of people all over the country and all over the world. It's so tragic and so sad. Tell us up first of all how you learn about this and what went through your mind. Take a while. We'll I I was in disbelief. Just like everyone else Shaath And just broke down much of two years I live in Los Angeles right now. my I have a basketball teams that play at the Mamba and we've practiced there so so I'm in that Jim four times a week that his facility Kobe's in there with his daughter hit his teams all the time you know the time I bet he's investing in to you know his family now so just chop and learned about it as I was driving towards home my daughter call me in disbelief instead. I hope you're sitting down because I have some news that you need to hear. And she told me what happened and I and I just stopped the car and shot and broke down in tears. Because it's just a tragic incident all around. I think your reaction was almost exactly the same as my reaction when my wife called me and gave me the news it was just so horrible. Tell us a little bit about Kobe. Bryant what will you remember. Must you know it's interesting. I think we've all we watched him as a basketball player. But this transformation that we're seeing in front of our eyes as a retired player you know is what I think. I'M GONNA remember most Because again he became and everyone can relate to soccer mob. He became the soccer dad. You know he basically. This is a corporal but his car pool was a helicopter so going to a game because most of us realize that our kids are never gonNA believe you know get a college scholarship then probably not GonNa be in the NBA or the WNBA which is spending this time with them and everything about his career was about him. Everything Kobe Bryant is Kobe. Bryant back commercials and this transformation and his retirement was all about highlight exempt. So that's what we all. I think that's former players try to achieve is like we know that a lot of our lives about us and he was now saying okay. Now I'm going to showcase my family as much as I can and you know through twitter and instagram could do easily now at everything was about them. And that's I think that's where it's hitting most of the players now because because that's the lights that they're trying trying to that he's trying to build that they're trying to build and we try to do and let's remember Kenny. What a great great great player? An amazing player Kobe Bryant was five time. NBA champion seventeen time all star two time. Olympic Gold Medalists D. You you have a favorite Kobe Bryant moment because there are so many wonderful moments So many you know as a as a fan because again you know our interactions were you know at most thirty minutes when I when I interacted with him You know and I'm also feeling for my my. Ah My my comrade Shaquille O'Neal I just I know how how much feel right now and I've talked. You know been texted him talking to him so I chill you know especially bath him more than anything so and as well as the families that's going on but my most memorable basketball moment I think it was when he hit a shot gets Phoenix and he pulls the Jersey to the side and he's like showing his heart And and the one thing that if if you recognize wolf like their people in the media in your profession I go you know they idolize big that maybe you you know. There's if people in certain areas the best of the best immolate copes like so all stars in our game emulate hip. Yeah he enjoyed and understand the the standard of what people do people. Don't say anything else. Well isn't it good. It's Kobe Bryant. He's the the next Kobe Bryant. or He's the next Jordan so he's the measuring stick for the position of what it is to be a a great basketball player and you you know he was a seventeen time. NBA All star went to the All Star Game Seventy Times. I think I know you were many of them. I think I was an all. I go every year to the league. The all-star Game I was in all of them and I remember specifically every single time wherever we are whether in New Orleans or Miami or Los Angeles Research ICAGO wherever the NBA. All Star weekend is taking place. Whatever Kobe Bryant was introduced it was a special moment for the twenty thousand or so fans who who were inside that arena? And you probably felt it as well without question because his his greatness was captivating astle astle fans but it could make opponents uncomfortable like and that that is very difficult to to have. Both you know a lot of times you know players players could be great but other other great players say well. He doesn't make me uncomfortable in terms of making replay differently. He's the only one of the few players in our the league in the history of the game that the great players he could make uncomfortable and You know he's you know again. He's talking about memories. I Ah Brockton when Hurricane Katrina hit and I I called him and I said Hey man I need you to come to play in a charity game. This is on a Monday wolf on Friday and Houston Texas to help the people with Hurricane Katrina. He says how many players had I said Koby We. Honestly you're the first person I called because I know if I get you everyone else. Who's GONNA come? And he said yes he says you know what tell everybody. I'm playing and he said tell him to strap up. Because I'M GONNA play for real and from there. I had twenty six players in less than twenty four hours. Say Yes because Kobe Bryant said yes I yeah it's it's especially when we're showing our viewers. Kenny live pictures outside the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Right now. People are gathering there. There's obviously a the big picture of Kobe in loving memory of Kobe Bryant It's hard to believe. Only forty one years old and he has passed. I mean it's shocking. To all of us I obviously got to meet him on a few occasions and he was such a wonderful special always so nice WHOA professionally as far as basketball is concerned? Where would you rank? I've clearly in the top five. But what do you think like I said it to you. Michael Jordan order a measuring stick of the position so You know there are people when when people say are you the next Jordan they say oh you the next Kobe and they used to say at one time. Are you the next Kareem abdul-jabbar those are Wilt Chamberlain. Those only four or five guys that you would hear maybe an Oscar Robertson Robison and. That's it you know next anything else. The only guys who could be the next because it goes into the most dynamic captivating cultivated players. Here's in the history of our game and He's GonNa be missed Rabat regard. We'll see a perfect person know at times. You know. We seem his flaws as well. Oh but in terms of what he did in terms of competition level and his in detail and his level of exodus and again the transformation into this I it's not about me anymore about my family this transformation that we were witnessing at the early stages of his retirement is what that I buy the most one final question before. I let you go We're getting ready mid February for the NBA. All Star game. It's going to be this year in Chicago. I'll be going there you'll be there. You'll be broadcasting. No doubt from there it's going to it's going to be a different. NBA All Star game. Because we've lost Kobe Bryant without question you know everything in the All star weekend. It's about celebratory. So I think that what we should also acknowledge it celebrators lice and not mourn his life as well so it could be a great fellow Pretoria weekend about all of the great things that he's done You know we can make everything about eight and twenty four so I don't know how you do it but everything should have a twenty four eight Motif to it being to it and just celebrate the life of a guy who carry the NBA on his back For like ten years or a decade or more It was the most known and and polarizing figure in the game gain around the world. Kenny Smith thanks so much for sharing some thoughts on this very very sad moment and I think you're absolutely right we. We will celebrate Kobe Bryant in the days weeks months and years to come especially in a couple of weeks at the NBA All Star game in Chicago. Thanks very much right right now. I want to bring in award winning sports broadcaster Bob Costas to get his reaction Baba I mean so sad. I don't know what you could say but Tell us how you yourself when you heard. The news that Kobe Bryant is thirteen year old daughter. Others were killed in this helicopter. Crash obviously an unspeakable tragedy Especially when children are involved in the bold face name is Kobe but there are eight others and not just his daughter beyond Kobean. Jonah there are seven others and it's a tremendous tragedy across the board. I thought back personally to the Kobe. Brian I met when he was eighteen years old. Fresh I shot of Highschool Lower Merion High School in Philadelphia where the gym and which is old high. School plays is now named after him. He had had an unusual usual youth for an NBA player his dad as you know had been an NBA player. Joe Jelly Bean Bryant. Who played with the seventy sixers teammate of Julius erving in the seventies and with a couple of other clubs and then he spent a good portion of his youth? Speaking of Kobe in Italy spoke fluent Italian he was more more mature. Eighteen year old and much more aware than most you would meet Nachos as an athlete but almost any eighteen year old in in any walk of life he was tremendously self-possessed tremendously aware and poised When I interviewed him for the first time at age eighteen and he was a superstar for star by the time he was in his early twenties? He didn't just have tremendous talent had presence. He had star quality and as Kenny Smith. Told you a moment ago yes he and fikile. O.`Neil were a nearly unstoppable unstoppable combination when they won three consecutive NBA Championships. But there there was always a feeling that he was one. A. And shock was the most dominant player in the game but then Kobe went on to lead the Lakers to two world championships. After shocking DOC ID departed for the Miami Heat and that was a statement. He wanted to make Kobe by. Everybody's testimony was always no matter what the accolades were no matter what the achievements were He. He was always pushing for something better and always measuring himself against perhaps in unattainable even for him standard what what made him such an exceptional player. Well you have to start with talent but then there's also dedication everyone who was close to him and I got an up close view for a long time when the NBA was on NBC for a good portion of his career through the early two thousands but even in later years? When I didn't see as much of him those who were following him covering him playing with an against him said that every off-season no matter what he had done he might have within the MVP or the scoring champion? He always came back having added something else to his repertoire. Having added some other move that would frustrate defenders offenders and I think as much as almost anything something that tells you the nature of him as a competitive athlete in twenty thirteen. He tore his Achilles at least ten. Then at this point he's already been in the League for more than fifteen years his hall of fame status as long since secured. They say he'll miss the better part of a year. He comes back in December of that year and barely a week. Later breaks a bone in his left knee. He's out until October of twenty fourteen fourteen and then he tears his rotator cuff almost anybody else at that advanced Bethlehem age with all the achievements. Already in place would have said. Okay okay fine. That's it but he put himself through a kind of athletic and rehabilitation hell to get back on the floor to make one final statement to play one final year to leave people with an image of Kobe. Bryant not hobbling around but scoring sixty points in his last game against the Utah Jazz. A- all of US watch that game with amazement. Indeed as you know Bob Kobe Bryant went straight to the NBA. Right out of high school only eighteen years old. Ah What's really amazing and it's pretty unusual. I think I don't know if you agree. He played for only one team all those years about twenty years. The Los Angeles Lakers. So what does that mean that he he stuck with one team for so many years. That's increasingly rare in pro sports and and it's something that people value the player who they attach to just one team. You think of CAL ripken with a Baltimore Orioles or Derek Jeeter. Who's now headed to the hall of fame with the Yankees? That's something important people. Tom Brady now contemplating where he will go next. It just seem. I'm a little odd if Tom Brady wears a uniform other than the Patriots just as it seems a little odd. Although it's just a footnote for Michael Jordan but to see him play for the Washington Wizards Wizards Kobe. Bryant never wore a uniform. Other than the Lakers. Which reminds me that he did wear two numbers for the Lakers? Eight and twenty. I four and I don't know if you heard about this wolf but at and at least one game and I'm told that it may happen in several. NBA Games tonight. The the raptors are playing the spurs tonight and on each team's first possession. They each intentionally took a twenty four second second violation they just stood and held the ball. Didn't attempt to score took a twenty four second violation but the raptors and the spurs to honor Kobe Bryant I and the number twenty four so it's really amazing before I let you go very quickly Bob because I know you're GonNa be busy all night and and hopefully you'll be back it with us But two time gold medal winner at the Olympic Games. And you've been to all those Olympic Games over the years what we the. NBA Hey has become so popular. Not only in the United States but all over the world right now and Kobe Bryant whether in Europe or Africa or Asia South America he's a household name in the modern history of the NBA. And this is to take nothing away from Kareem who kinda straddles both errors. I will or bill. Russell Bob cousy whoever preceded Oscar Robertson Jerry West in the modern history of the NBA. I think the most marketable the players and most internationally recognised players post Magic Johnson. And Larry Bird certainly been magic. Johnson Lebron James and Kobe Bryant and part of it is because Kobe is a unique name but he was one of a handful of one name athletes. You didn't need the last night everybody. Nobody knew who called me was as they know who. Lebron is really amazing. I've traveled all over the world and everybody obviously knew who he was. Everybody who loved basketball. So how many billions and millions of people around the world do Love Basketball Bob Costas. I know you're going to be sticking around. We'll continue our conversation. We're also getting reaction right now from around the world and this very tragic very sad breaking news the NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant among up nine people killed in a helicopter crash near Los Angeles more on his life in legacy. When we come back ever been knocked down you know suffered a setback fired left out? It happens it happens a Mike Bloomberg number middle class kid worked his way through college. Got A job started a family boom fired at thirty nine. What did Mike do or a lot of us? Do we got backup up dove back in. He had idea design a new computer able to quench data processing information in a unique way he built it he sold it he built more. He sold more. He built a team. Built a company created twenty thousand jobs. Bloomberg is a doer. This is Michael. Douglas I played a president and movies. Movies this is real world. This is our world. Mike Bloomberg has takes to win unite the country find some common ground between Democrats and Republicans the kids and then lead the way a leadership. Mike will get it. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate from President. And I approve. This message paid paid for by Mike. Bloomberg Twenty Twenty National Transportation Safety Board is briefing reporters right now on this tragic helicopter crash. Let's listen structures and power plants and we already have a staff person from the regional office. onsite insight. We will also have two staff members from our family assistance team who will be working with the family delays another loved ones to help them get their resources that they need over the next couple of days months. We are leaving in a few minutes. I expect will arrive late tonight. We're likely to have a media briefing sometime tomorrow. Please monitor our twitter which is NTSB underscore newsroom for those announcements. I have time for a couple of quick questions. If you'll raise your hand State your name and your affiliation. What the question is what types of things will be looking for? Our team will be looking at The history of the pilots and whatever crew was on board will be looking at maintenance records of The helicopter Copter We will be looking at records of the of the owner and operator of the Hilla Copter and a number of other the things that we look at as part of the investigation You'd that's hard to tell The question is how How late will we be getting to work? We do have somebody who's on-scene or en route route from our Western Region Office and so when we get on scene we'll have to assess what we're able to do at that time I five Media on route forty nine people were killed two people. The question is how many people can be carried in the Sikorsky. Seventy six B. We are trying to figure out what the configuration of that helicopter is really just depends on the configuration. So that's something we're still trying to verify one more question is it. Typical descend eighteen and I should clarify. It's not a total total of eighteen investigators that includes our investigative staff that's There's the investigative staff support members. There are a couple for media relations. There's our family assistance team And I think that covers it. But it's typical for for any of our investigations. This does not change anything We this is just how we would respond to any investigation like does this. Type of helicopter have Blackbox that's something. We'll have to look at as part of the investigation. We're still on our way there so well thank you very much. All Right Jennifer Mendy board member the NTSB the National Transportation Safety Board. They're gonNA have a full scale investigation of this tragic. Horrific helicopter crash Kobe Bryant and eight others killed toby. Bryant only forty one years old old his thirteen year old daughter as well. Peter Goals is with us CNN aviation analyst former managing director of the NTSB. Peterson walk because through what is about to begin. Well they're going to land tonight. They'll probably do a quick tour of the site because they won't get there until after ten or eleven o'clock L. A. too on and they will make sure that the site is secure that any key pieces of equipment have not been damaged They're going to their family. Assistance Assistance Team is going to go into action and they are very skilled You know this is such a tough accident and You know the the they'll be important but tomorrow are mourning. The real work will begin. And they'll wanNA find out as member Hamady said they want to know the maintenance records to this plane the pilot qualifications nations. What was the weather like? What's the radar tracks? Show was any communication between the pilot and the ground. Tell us about this s seventy-six helicopter copter. You're familiar with it. I am news about There's over a thousand of them in use worldwide. They're used in a military setting they're used as air air ambulances and they're also you know the helicopter of choice for high end private use. I mean this is a dual engine. turbocharged helicopter opted. That has a very solid record so as far as you can remember off the top of your head. No previous major accidents. There have been. I think three that I was able to look up today. A but it certainly would would this number of of helicopters in the air. It's a it's a very positive record and you heard the question How many people can usually be seen in the helicopter like well? They use this helicopter for offshore the oil business for transferring crews out out to the rigs so you can get twelve to fifteen people into this Type helicopter depends on on. WHO's getting on but I don't think nine passengers would would be a away Wade issue for this this Powell? That was the issue whether in there were too many people on what you're saying there weren't brave. You probably not. You would look at the weather whether it's going to be an issue. I mean I've heard two different different reports on one that It was heavily fogged in early in the day. Some flights are being canceled. I've heard later that it was you know. Not Quite as heavy that there was over a mile visibility but certainly when it comes to helicopters flying at low altitude you're going to look at whether very careful the NTSB ESPN report. It'll take months until we get the final report right. Yes it's his will take a year to get the full report. They'll issue a preliminary report within thirty days. That will give us. I think A pretty good picture of way. The where the investigation is going. Peter Goals thank you very much for coming in always appreciate your expertise coming up. We're going to much more on our tragic breaking news on the death of the NBA Legend. Kobe Bryant much more right after this. Hey there it's poppy harlow the host of CNN's boss files podcast. Are you hungry. Have you ever had shake shack or latest. Episode is with the men behind the Burger business. Founder Danny Meyer and CEO Randy Randy Garate shake shack was born. If you didn't know as a hotdog cart in two thousand one and the whole thing actually started Danny. Meyer says by accident accident so we dive into that. What's the story behind? What is now a publicly traded company and what are they trying to do when it comes to equality eighty and wages and their experiment with four day workweeks also? Are they planning to offer plant based items on the menu. That is a big question. Also some of their favourite memories like when President Obama came to eat checkup boss files subscribed today today. Fans of Kobe Bryant are gathering right now outside Staples Center in Los Angeles. It's a place ace where Kobe Bryant had some of his greatest on the court achievements including five. NBA Championships with the Lakers. CNN correspondent. Paul vercammen is outside staple senator forest. He's joining us right now. Paul set the scene for us because there are a lot of sad fans over there right now. Yeah they're heartbroken in their here outside staples grammy's across the street. They've been breaking in the chance of Kobe Bryant. MVP and look at this family behind me. Liz and family have showed up all of them in Kobe. Bryant gear and Liz. Why would it? Kobe mean to you that you would come out in your regalia. Uh so Kobe. Brian represented my whole life since I was eight years old and you know up until he retired tired. He's been the Laker logo. The leaker person in Moran's local as a human. You know seeing all the things he went through with his wife we know what the whole infidelity CNN rise with all his championships. And all that I just saw the human him not only the player you no. I believe that he was a good man and I believe that it was such. It's such a tragic loss. You know my husband and I. He's he knows all the stats adding on like everything me thought him. As a man the man you know the human we super appreciate your time out many such sentiments being expressed breath here and also the LAKER nation. If you will Kareem abdul-jabbar Light Kobe Bryant five NBA Championships in that Laker Jersey. There's e six overall for Kareem Kareem. Had this to say about the Lakers. Now fallen superstar to family. Ah Want to send my most sincere and heartfelt of regrets and prayers and my thoughts are with you. Guys was an incredible family man then he loved his wife and daughters. He was incredible athlete and a leader in a lot of ways inspired all generation of young athletes. Kobe my thoughts. Would you absolutely rest in peace young men. This loss is. It's this article and let me sum up some of the tweets that have been flooding in former president. Barack Barack Obama Kobe was a legend on the court and just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second can act and again. I'll just sum up. These tweets many of them quite lengthy his teammates kilo. Neil of course Kobe and Shaquille O'Neal winning three straight NBA Championships. Gene chips coma. Kobe was so much more than an athlete. He was a family man. That was what we had most in common. We love our families. Whenever ever we got together I would hug his children like they were my own? And don't forget for a moment that Kobe and Shaq once said to be at tremendous odds on the Lakers curse and then the legend himself Michael Jordan. I'm in shock over the tragic news of Kobe's N. Jonah's passing. Words can't describe cried the pain. I'm feeling I loved Kobe. He was like a little brother to me. We used to talk often and now outside staples you can hear the chance of MVP. The fans thinking about Kobe Bryant and every treasured memory they had for him Los Angeles is heart sick but they're they're celebrating Kobe as well wolf not only in Los Angeles but all over the country indeed is so much of the World Paul Vercammen. Thank you very much for that report. WE'RE GONNA much more ahead of the breaking news of next. We'll talk to someone who interviewed Kobe Bryant very recently about life after basketball at his legendary career. Hey Everyone Andrew Aydin here host of the brand new podcast from H. L. N. down the hill. The Delphi murders. This is the story of Abigail Williams Liberty German German. They were typical teens into arts softball snapchat and in February of two thousand seventeen. They went for a hike on a warm day in Delphi. Indiana and and vanished nearly twenty four hours after that hike. Their bodies are found in the woods. They've been murdered and the police begin working a crime scene. They say A. They'll never unsee also found libby cellphone which has video and audio of the killer who three years later remains on the loose looks down the hill. The DELPHI murders begins on February fifth. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts. Look at the live pictures right now outside the the Al Los Angeles Staples Center. That's the home of the Los Angeles Lakers were Kobe. Bryant played for some twenty seasons tragically very sadly died today day in a helicopter crash south together with his thirteen year old daughter and eight other people dead at the age unfortunately only forty one years old wanna bring rigging Ernie Johnson right now is the host of inside the NBA on TNT. Our Sister Network Ernie so sad. I don't know what you could tell us but you covered Kobe Bryant for so many years. What went through your mind when you heard this horrific news wolf? It was skill Columba. Lebron Yeah I was. I had been North Carolina speaking and was driving getting home just listening to music as I was driving and my song called. Eric told me you heard the news and I said what are you talking about me told me don't believe it and I And will that that hits me. Hardest is is just how a family shattered it's Johnston comprehensible and And again as I continued to drive on the night. Switch the radio go to the NBA station for them talking about it and it's just it's just incredible. I thought that I called Kenny. And I called Charles. I called Shack and and And it was pretty much the same kind of thing. Just justice The stunned reality that this had happened And Look we'll I wish I ahead magic words or I could say something to make better at something profound to say and I don't I'm just I'm just loss and and all of us are And to see at the age of forty one and a guy was so much going for him not just talking about basketball ascot ball skills. I'm just saying this guy gets it and had wonderful lands for his family and his daughters and And it's just very tell big because You know you you. Well you reported on him you covered him. You got to know him I met him on a few occasions over the years What impressed me so much was yes? He was one of the greatest basketball players. Ever one of the greatest athletes. It's ever but he was such a nice human being such a nice person a truly wonderful man and I wanted to speak a little bit about veteran. Well Ah the thing that that always stuck out to me about. Kobe was not just his ability to play the game but his ability to the game and when we when he announced his retirement and he was playing his last season. Nate the Lakers came through Atlanta. And we arranged to do a sit down at the team hotel and we talked about. You know who is a toughest guy who gave you the gave you the the toughest time defensively was there. Kobe stopper and that kind of thing but also we just talked about the mental aspect of the game and he said to be a success in this league you have to understand human nature as he put it to me that they said look you can execute on the floor till the cows come home but unless you know what makes a player lawyer tick. You're Never GonNa win a championship. And you don't hear talk like that Jerry off mathematics. It was really deep and it was very insightful and it just just gave you a glimpse into the kind of person that Koby Bryant was when he took the floor. Everybody wants to win out there wolf but those host who have the success that Cobra had take it to that next level somehow mentally and he was able to do that and and drive himself to always be always be better and he was the capital. That team When just to go back in fact it's ten years ago? Okay you remember the Lakers. We had the western conference finals on. TNT Lakers win the Western Conference finals. I'm doing the trophy. Presentation and on that Laker team was wrought our test who was for the first time in his life going to go to the NBA finals. And so as I I stood there in a commercial break and I'm ready to do this interview I was looking for Ron behind all these players. I was standing next to Kobe because he was going to be the guy I talked to. I and I said where's Ron Gobi. Says what do you need Ron for said. He's going to the finals for the first time I said I'd I'd love to talk to him about that and Kobe knowing what Ron was asked to save from time to time said No. You're not doing that. I said come on. This guy is going to the finals for the first time he says. No I look at Phil Jackson. I said Phil come on. He says that's the captain and so the only guy I've talked to. There was Kobe Bryant. And that told you the the sway. He held there the respect. He had there on that Laker team and he was going to do what he viewed as the best for that. Ah For that Organization for that team at that moment and that was he would be the spokesperson and didn't want anything to go up on anybody's bulletin board or anything else he was going to be the spokesman that day you know. I think I speak for a lot of fans out there. I'm a season ticket holder for the Washington Wizards our hometown team here in the nation's capital and whenever over these many years the Lakers would come to town and we knew Kobe Bryant would be playing not just me but twenty thousand fans at the that would come to a game We got so excited. We just took a look at Kobe. Bryant playing right here and I'm sure it was going on all over the country at every stadium where he showed up and if he played internationally in Olympic game or whatever the same thing was going to talk a little bit about what he meant for for the NBA fans. I think he had the ability wolf and not that many players have it. There were a few who do that. You can feel the electricity in the building and the buzz from the fans when he touches the ball. You know Michael Jordan had Kobe. Bryant had that there were certain superstars who who have have that effect. Because you're just waiting to see what he's going to come up with next. I remember before Kobe came in the league. I would watch some of these great showdown between Dominique Wilkins and Michael Jordan. And I'd see Michael Make some moves in the course of the game and you've seen him where you sit man. How does anybody do that? We'll never see that when Kobe Bryant came in the League you saw that all the time and he had Michael as a role model a guy to look at and say that's the level I wanna be at and so he gave you those sentences those same kind of highlights on a nightly basis. And I and again you can look at players like look my buddy Charles. Barkley Alan Iverson Russell Russell Westbrook Michael Kobi. And here's what you know for. Sure that if you'RE GONNA pay money to go to a game in which those guys were playing you're not gonNA get cheated. They are going to give you absolutely everything like with Charles. You knew you were going to be entertained. You know he might get a might go for twenty points twenty rebounds but he also might tackle the mascot make your son daughter laugh with Alan Iverson. You knew that he wasn't going to leave anything in the tank. Same same with a guy like Westbrook and coby same deal driven to win driven to excel and and fleshed with God given even abilities that that we're just jaw dropping. I'll see you in a couple of weeks or so at the NBA All star weekend. all-star game weekend weekend in Chicago Ernie. And you know I asked any Smith this. It's going to have the death of Kobe. Bryant will have an impact on that weekend wolf to lose David Stern and a longtime NBA. Commissioner Yeah Yeah in in this span of time Now it's going to have a very different feel in Chicago and it was one of these things to you. Know I've been watching the coverage. And then you know looking at social media and seeing I mean it's just heartbreaking wolf to see the players around the league and how they are just empty. Nobody can believe what's happened and I don't know how those guys were playing that airplane unless they are simply driven riven by look. This one's for Kobe because he had he had that he had such an impact on all those players coming up who would watch him and those who had the chance to play against him And now to see an all star weekend and I was we. Were just just talking about him the other day when we were announcing the starters on our show the other night because Lebron is voted to start her again and I said well that breaks a time for the all time most with Kobe Bryant and then Kobe Bryant last night passed for third on the all-time scoring list by Lebron James. So he's out out of the game but very much still in the game because he was so great and and hardly a night goes by where you don't bring him up for some reason you know Oh that you know this player now joins colby and this player in this player had do this or that in an NBA game so to go to Chicago. Bill where we celebrate this game and how much fun. It is. it's going to have a different field And when one of those things that I saw on twitter with somebody had posted draft night ninety six and I was working with Hugh Brown and Rick Pitino on that show and it had had our description of You know the the ready with the next big at. Here's David Stern announcing the Charlotte is drafting Kobe. Bryant and that took me back But it just seems like a blink. It just seems like that just happened. We were just announcing Kobe. Bryant's coming Manila League. And now here we are on this day shaking our heads and than employing in the wake of something that we just can't Caitlyn richly you make an important point We lost in the last few weeks. David Stern the longtime commissioner of the NBA. Kobe Bryant would you host what is one of the most special parts of NBA All Star game weekend and in Chicago this year the NBA Legends Brunch. It's going to take on a whole new impact as a result of these these two losses that all of us have have been going through over these today over the past. Few weeks As Usual Ernie. You're you're a great man. Thank you so much for joining us Look forward to seeing you in Chicago. It's he would want the players to play. He would want the All Star game to go on. That's his nature. You knew him a lot better than I did. But I'm sure he's he's watching and he's and he's He's happy that the game continues because that was so important to earn Johnson. Thank you so much for joining us in and prayers for his family to. It's I just can't even begin to think what they're going through. Thank you our deepest condolences to his wife and the kids and the whole family and his friends and may he rest in peace and as we say may as memory be a blessing. We'll be right back.

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Kobe Bryant Dies: Remembering Mamba

Warriors Off-Court

23:57 min | 8 months ago

Kobe Bryant Dies: Remembering Mamba

"Expectations are sky high for the as this year especially with the Houston cheating scandal potentially opening path for the as to win the division I am Susan's Lesser Lesser. You can follow along with all the as developments throughout the season on as plus Welcome to warriors off court the San Francisco Chronicle's NBA podcast. I'm your host warriors beat writer Connor Turno. Today I'm joined by West Gobert. The warriors reporter for the Mercury News West came on shortly after news broke that Kobe. Bryant was one of five people killed in a helicopter crash Sunday morning into the hillside overlooking cow. Fastest California during our conversation West not reflect on Kobe's legacy share some of our favorite Koby memories in detail how this tragedy is impacting. The Warriors West. Thank you so much for for joining me on the PODCAST. It's a very sombre Sunday afternoon. Here at Chase Center we were here covering here to cover warriors practice when the news broke that Kobe. Bryant one of five people killed in a helicopter crash over over calabasas California. Just got the news a little bit ago that his thirteen year old daughter Gianna was on. That flight was on that helicopter after with him Also a One of her travel team teammates and the apparent of that team mate were killed as well just completely clearly tragic day not only for the NBA world for the basketball world but for the sports world in general this is this. This is someone who really rose to ICONEX status. You Know He. His reach went so far and actually even beyond the sports world into the entertainment world. This is the guy who wanted and Hatemi award since retiring from them. As one of the greatest players of all time is his impact on pop culture society was incredibly far reaching in his forty one years and I think both of us are are still a little bit stunned like like everyone out. There just does not feel real all and I think the reason. It doesn't feel real because he was truly someone that was larger than life. He you mentioned the Academy Award and he won an Oscar the year whereafter he retired from the NBA. That is I remember watching that award show and just being completely blown away that that somebody could do that. do that thing that so many people who are filmmakers at go their entire lives not getting having chasing and that and that was sort of Kobe Bryant he chased things and he got them done he won five championships in twenty years. He and you know we could talk about all of his NBA accomplishments but he in in in a Lotta respects was kind of the ultimate version of your of your modern NBA player. Of what they WANNA be. I mean you see all these guys post. NBA Career. Try to figure out what their lives are going to be. What they're going to do with the rest of of their lives and he pretty much just nailed it out the gate Donnelly finally from his business ventures but the entertainment things just from being a dad? I mean to to go down in that helicopter with his daughter and an an one of his daughters teammates another another parent and they were just going to practice. They were going to a basketball practice and and they did that. A lot and Kobe. Bryant was so involved in his kids lives only always things and and he was pretty much just executing at the post. NBA career level. He was he was he was a good father. It it looked like and it's just really tough to see him go that way you know especially considering that he it did seem like he had so much much more to give and he was enjoying living that life after his NBA career. And the the one thing that everyone talks about coby is that Mamba mentality and it's he he became he came to represent just a complete unyielding will winning mentality A competitive nature that I think a lot of people have been inspired by over the years. You know I know players. Different athletes have been tweeting over the past couple of hours since the news news broke that they are forever grateful to Kobe just for helping them find something within themselves. You know he was he was. He was a polarizing polarizing figure at times he was. He was someone who maybe wasn't always the greatest teammate just because he held his teammates so accountable and so hard on them at times but it was solely because he he held himself to a standard and he wanted everyone else to reach it and I can only respect that you know that he was greatness. Personified In terms of anything as we just talked about he he did well whatever he did and The warriors like like every team in NBA. They are really reeling from this news. they cut practice short today when when news broke of of Kobe's passing from what I heard talking to people in the organization in It was just. The whole team was just completely distraught. Visibly very upset And they did not grant media media requests. They did not talk to media. We might be talking to someone later in the organization but There will be no formal sit down. availabilities There might have a press release later with with some remembrances on his legacy but you know it was only a couple years ago. It was December two thousand seventeen when I got the opportunity to cover Kobe's Jersey retirement at Staples Center and the warriors who obviously were the biggest team in NBA at the time or playing in that game and that was a cool opportunity in that there was so much fanfare around that obviously. Kobe spoke pre-game and then the warriors didn't even go into the locker room at halftime. Because they wanted to stay on the court and watch his is number eight and number number twenty four go up into the rafters and Before that day I got the chance to do a story on Kobe's impact on the warriors all-stars guys like Klay Thompson. Kevin Durant at the time Steph Curry draymond green because because every single player in this league has some sort of Kobe story some sort of story where he impacted them personally. Kobe was very hands on phenomenal mentor into her. Two young guys and I think part of part of why this hits the Warriors so hard in this generation of NBA. The eight player is because the timing of his of his arise really really aligned with win. A lot of these guys were learning the game fallen in love with the game so more than Michael Jordan. They connected with Kobe because Kobe was the face of that generation and so they were grown up in the backyard. You know on the playground trying to mimic Kobe. Bryant not Michael Jordan. Eric Pascoe loved watching Kobe. Bryant growing up Glen Robinson the third currently wears koby pro shoes almost all the time. And almost exclusively. During his warm-up Stansell Russell played with Kobe Bryant as a rookie and looks back fondly on those memories of what he was able to learn and pick up from Kobe even if he self admittedly didn't necessarily Appreciate it in the moment and I can only imagine for all those guys and everybody else on that roster it hurts I mean Bob Myers of course as a period intense relationship with Kobe. Bryant So I can only imagine what he's going through right now But to echo your statement on the Momma mentality and everything I mean it has become sort of meme lately but it is a real thing like players. Do try to channel that just like players. Here's you know in the early two thousands late nineties trying to channel that from from there in our Air Jordan right they ha they do try to channel that it is a motivating factor if you have went if you've ever pass through Koby Bryant's orbit you've probably felt it and you've tried to take it with you wherever you ended up and I remember growing enough. I mean I I don't know about you but I remember Kobe. Bryant much more than I remember Michael Jordan and an I what I remember. Michael Jordan was his later years in the late nineties. More more slowly the third three petes the first one where but I remember almost all of covy you know at least as law is long. He was winning championships than and just watching him. Go from number eight number twenty ninety four. I remember just like him. Changing Jersey numbers randomly. Remember his shoes coming out going from Adidas to Nike. I remember him just like that that that complete lack of concern for his opponents wellbeing like he just wanted to take your throat in heart out in one fell swoop and and it was just really awesome to see and towards the end of his career. He ended up becoming like this anti analytic sky and everybody was all he ta- East Scores Forty points but needs thirty eight shots to do it and all these things that of course he's takes sixty shots and his last game or score sixty points in his last game right and it was a well all you need whatever many shots and do it and like every NBA player. They're like what he put up that many shots and he scored sixty. You could go to healthier analytic. He just did that and that's what he was wasn't and he was sort of. I don't WanNa say the last sort of kind of piece of the pre analytics NBA. But he kind kind of a lot of ways you know symbolize that entire thing more of my conversation with West Goldberg right after the break. If you've been listening to San Francisco City insider you heard from Jason Bodine months before his surprise election Tennessee cities. Da You heard from the most love librarian in the country and you heard from the man who wants to remake Muny. I'm chronicle columnist. Heather Knight get to know the people who make San Francisco tick and see if you approve of their burrito choices on San Francisco City insider for me I a thing about. Kobe was used so polarizing which speaks to his greatness. You know every truly great player had people either love him or hate him. Because as you re you're there on his team and you loved having him or you're going against him and you hated half to go up against him and I hated Kobe. Bryant up I'm from Portland Oregon. I grew up a diehard I hard blazers fan and that was back when I was really coming of age is back in the early two thousands when the warriors had the jail Blazer era and they were actually one of the best teams in the Western Conference and they were going. They'd always fall to the Lakers felt like every single year and it was so frustrating. Every time we played the Lakers felt felt like Kobe hit a dagger three pointer at the Buzzer to win the game. I remember seeing that multiple times. I remember being at a game at the Rose Garden during the regular season. When I think the blazers were up like eighteen going into fourth and he just willed them to victory and hit a hit in a corner three to win the game and just you know his swagger is his tongue out all those things you just hated him and it wasn't just the fact that he beat your team it was that he he did it so ruthlessly but I though one of my most memorable moments growing up that I will never forget was I was in. Third Grade was two thousand Western Conference finals. Game Seven Blazers are up fourteen going into the fourth quarter. It's you know it feels like the moment. The Blazers are gonNA finally breakthrough dethrone. The Shaq and Kobe Lakers in. And you also have to understand. And there's this hatred in Portland for everything I lay represents like you're you're you're born to hate la not just the Lakers but everything southern California l. -fornia represents and so it was like this beautiful moment at the time going to the Ford Gas. We got this and then you know with Kobe leading the way they come back win. Game seven ended up winning the title that year one of their three consecutive NBA NBA title is the warriors never or the blazers. Never even made the finals during that. Stretch Because they beat the Lakers and so that that's that's something that I have never forgotten. I was nine years old crying in my basement literally through like a basketball TV. My Dad got mad at me because I was so upset. It was bad but Kobe did that to so many people if you weren't on his side and I look back on that fondly family and I'm actually almost weirdly grateful to him for those moments because you know he made it interesting. Who so the way he played with? So compelling there's so much drama to his game he made it emotional for you and a lot of people in the polarizing was good there and you said if you're not on his side he hate them and that's what he did man he got you on his side. It was well. We can't beat him so we'll join him. There are very few. NBA Players who ever come to the league that created read their own fan bases. I mean we know that the NBA is star driven but what players have really created their own fan base of made. You may be growing up in Minnesota or Portland or northern California or New York or anything like that actually just switch allegiances to. It's in because of a player Right Michael Jordan did that he probably was maybe the first one to do that. you could maybe argue magic. Johnson was that for the early Eighties Lakers too. I think Alan Iverson was that But I think to a lesser degree. There's a lot of fans who are currently now still citrus fans but they exist Alibaba James. We're seeing that right now. People will just be Lebron. James Fans and Kobe. Bryant was that Kobe Bryant. It was the ultimate version of that where it didn't matter where you live and help that. He played for the Lakers. Sherwood's easy to root for the Lakers of the glitz and glamour but he became this Glitz and Glamour Lamour but just like the hortus version of that or hey blake uses Gab got the GLITZ and Glamour. I'm willing to show off while I destroy you but but you better know that I put the work in to get to this point and now I can live to live in this Glitz and glamour. This is just me being like I deserve to be here. I get the GLITZ Glamour. Because I'm better than you I'm GonNa show you right now and and someone that I've found myself thinking a lot about You know since the news broke is Klay Thompson Thomsen because every member this wear has memories of of Kobe Bryant but Klay Thompson had a real relationship with Kobe. Bryant and and they close He was his childhood idol like he was for for a lot of us. But as you know Claes data's Michael Thompson and former member member of the showtime Lakers as a radio analyst so he had connections with the team and through that connection. was able to introduce Klay to Kobe. Bryant at a young age I wrote a story leading up to the Jersey retirement a couple years ago about clay's relationship with Kobe. Bryant and my lead was basically Kobe. Klay Thompson was seven years old and as we all know Claes Klay dealt with crippling shyness growing up and it was a it was A. They lived in Portland. Has the thompsons lived in Portland at the time and Kobe Shack played the blazers and it was after game and Michael brought and his three sons including clay in the locker room and clay would not refuse to actually go in the locker because he was so overwhelmed by the prospect of actually meeting getting Kobe Bryant like he couldn't handle it so he stayed in in the hallway clutching his mom's hand tearing up because he was so overwhelmed. By having to see Koby we riot like he just couldn't handle it And then as he got older They ended up developing a bond and One thing that sticks out to me he is that when Klay Thompson got suspended his junior year for For Marijuana for one game leading up to the INSTA- tournament tournament the cougars were Washington. State was on the insulin. Turn of bubble and and and I know Klay was emerging as a lottery pick and he was really worried about what that could mean for his draft prospects specs and and that sort of thing and I I know that Koby basically went up to him. It was like dude. Who cares like this? This is it's marijuana like chill out. It's all good like you're fine you're going to be a great NBA player. Like and and I talked to Mike Thompson one time and he told me that he was stunned. Because because when clay was just like a sophomore Washington state and was just starting to emerge wasn't even like a wasn't even surfacing on a mock gas that point. Kobe went up to Michael and say hey man I've been watching film Washington state and like been studying it. I really like his cash shoot game and he was getting really specific. Think about how he played in. I know Michael was kind of taken aback. Like oh be like how do you have time to be studying like my son's college tape you know that invested in people and Clay ended up working out with him in the draft in La. And then you know they exchanged jerseys of first time They they played against each other and I know I know Koby is just kind of been a mentor to to him in and I know all these guys have stories I know another example is draymond green when he was going through some stuff. A couple years ago you know his the Dick Pic League and he was he was getting all these all these negative headlines. Kobe hit them up and say hey man you know. Don't listen to the aiders. He's like tune all that out is just use it as fuel going into the season. Don't worry about it. I know during Kobe's last year he got dinner with Kevin into rant. He told he talked to Kevin about you know planning for for for post retirement and and working on building his business and I I think that was part of what really inspired Kevin to To to build his his company that invests in a lot of different things and got the TV stuff going and and so it just speaks to who he was person because He really took seriously his role as a face of the wing and as a mentor to these young guys yet and you know you it is again that modern NBA player. We've seen Lebron James do that now with the business venture off the court and all these things because he was really all you know part of that movement and you know the reason he's able to reach out to Klay Thompson after marijuana I wanNA possession or reach out to Jay mongering after some unfortunate photos surface is because he went through a lot of that stuff. Has You know in his own career. Are you went through the whole cheating on his wife scandal and all these other things and And we'd be remiss. Yeah it'd be remiss not to mention yeah absolutely. He allegedly raped somebody and look. I think they're that's that is a blemish on his career. I think that certainly there but He will will. There is a lot of other things that he did I'm not saying that it necessarily makes up for anything that he was there but he did a lot of things that still spoke to NBA players. Then he was able to say look you know none of this stuff was ever necessarily proven and I got through the other side and anything that you're going through can't be as bad as what I went through with this right so I think a lot of players did end up gravitating toward him for that Reason and I I just think that there are very few players ears again who can sort of boast that sort of st read that he did like I. I have one x amount of championships inch chefs. I didn't necessarily take the most direct route to the league. I've gone through adversity in my career. I've done all the business things you know that I work hard off the court and all these things and so with that street credit credit does get a lot of credibility with basically every NBA player. Right and Coby coby Bryan You know this this is not the type of story. That's a one day story. This is going to be in the news cycle for a while. Deservedly and we're going to have an interesting opportunity to cover the first. NBA Game in Philadelphia. His home town on Tuesday. The warriors play the seventy sixers in Philadelphia. I'm sure that will be very emotional night. I expect to see a lot of number. Eight number twenty four jerseys in the crowd It'll be it'll be intense. I'm sure for a lot of members of the warriors and so we'll be there we'll be covering it Will be will be you know writing the rest of the day on this Obviously had describe our daily daily plans. Because this is this is not just an important story but probably the most important story in the NBA in years This is just someone who is a true icon one of the most important players in sports. History I'm not just saying. NBA History in sports history And the fact that this comes like a couple of weeks after David Stern arguably the most important player most important person the NBA just in terms of building in making the NBA. What it is today? It's it's just been such Such a rough stretch for the league. Now it's within twenty five days basically basically We lose David Stern who Kobe Bryant. And we're moving into a new Like era of an of the NBA without two of its Foundational Pieces It's it'll be interesting to see. I mean it's already interesting to see but we're going to continue to see a lot more reactions in these coming days and I'm sure that that you mentioned that home game in Philadelphia will be an emotional day for a lot of people attendance there and it's going to be an emotional few weeks here for for a Lotta people west. Thank you so much for joining me. It's not it's not every day we get to get to have my quote unquote rival on the beat on the podcast. For those those who who remember West actually came on the podcast last summer. Right after the warriors signed Willie Cauley Stein and this was before you even on the beat. Now you're on the be doing a great job at for the Mercury News and you you happen to come on a couple of days after the time was treated so it's kind of coming full circle will But definitely read his stuff You can also find my stuff. As always at. SF CHRONICLE DOT COM ill will we'll. We'll be having Kobe. We Bryant react. 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