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Hour 1: Dion Waiters

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:18 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Dion Waiters

"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast brought to you by the capital one's ever card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment supercenter grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases now when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms apply. These sees the Dan Lebatardshow all with Stugatz podcasts. Hopefully at some point here somebody will be able to explain to me because I have now fallen out the Democrat. I'm an old old dinosaur journalist. If everyone in the N._B._A.. Is dating the same three women. I don't understand what is happening with Kendall Jenner and it de Ngelo Russell Kyle Kuzma Ben and Simmons <hes> Blake Griffin all linked to him all influencers all modern age millennials. She's she's a famous model and they're famous. Athletes and occasionally famous athlete will L. Hook up with a famous model one of the most famous examples of that because <hes> in in my lifetime I thought it was the rumored thing that Toni Braxton had broken up the mavs locker room but that's one of the earliest ones of those that I could remember <hes> <hes> that <hes> what was that Jeez that would have been Jason Kidd Jimmy Jackson Jackson Mashburn mashed for me. Probably the most famous example is Khloe Kardashian and Rashad McCann's Kant's so STU got. I cared to take a stab at this. I feel like we're judging Kendall Jenner unfairly no no. I'm just I'm just curious. Where are you read? You follow somebody while crews can just gallivant around town free from judgment out here just like sort of shading right he is he's hiding people on his instagram account because he doesn't want to show their faces. Yeah I'm not gonNA throw shade of Kendall Jenner. Go get it go get it. Are you questioning the basketball players or you're wrong. Yeah Kendall Jenner and you know what it says a lot about you and I thought he would have learned from your whole baby weight Hanson go about this all right. I've been thrown off today. The dinosaurs been thrown off because we were so moved and flattered by going back into the nineteen eighties and getting an official <music> city proclamation and then negotiating for a key to the Ford so I need to explain to the audience what just happened in the local hour because <hes> despite the efforts of Disney's urinating lawyers we have managed to get something off the ground contraption off the ground. That is now raising. You know it's rising to certain heights. We didn't do anything and it was a crazy guy named Joe. That's right <hes> crazy guy named Joe. This is how these things escalated. Mike help me out here because you know the behind the scenes and what a pain this whole thing has been. You've been working for three days on trying to get this thing off the ground well this actually has more to do with the town of Indianapolis and it does with a ton of Fort Wayne Indianapolis the react we started airing out there on our affiliate and the reaction to us hasn't been great less than ideal. Let's just say that which always happens to us when we start anywhere when we start throughout fifteen years whenever we start anywhere we tell you man give it a couple of months because it's going to be annoying at the beginning right and this show is actually strongly Indianapolis. We have a fake Andrew Lock that POPs up. We obviously had a love affair with Chuck Pagano and we play that Roy Hibbert trash can song. I don't really know what this is all about Indianapolis later into the market so I don't really know what it's about and yes. I'll get that trash can song in a second but Fort Wayne Indiana has stood up on our behalf. We've been hearing him Fort Wayne for quite some time and we have a very passionate fan base of five know how we didn't know how passionate we knew the Fort Wayne five arose from the ashes after after Indianapolis Charter reputation to the ground and in Fort Wayne Indiana tomorrow. We have an official mayoral proclamation that is Dan Laboratory with stugatz unofficial event on but the U._N.. is in parentheses. You can't get more official. Joie de Niro proclamation thirsty Thursday <hes> at the TIN caps game where the gathering of the Fort Wayne Five possibly five hundred will show up get t shirts and watch a live broadcasts of the sports rush hosted by Brett rump type of day so we just had the mayor on and he moved us and it was delightfully flattering and just it really was something that felt like it was out of Pleasantville and esteemed mayor. Tom Henry yes well. I WANNA I wanna get to something. Billy did okay because billing Kelly. I need you to explain you. Don't you laugh too much because I got something for you here too. Oh boy you something that you did during that. I don't think you know the joke that you I made what happened with you. You I stared. I burst out laughing during the proclamation because I'm staring at you and the mayor asked while he was trying to explain people who are from Fort Wayne he came up with the name that surely we all know and he said you know Bob. Chase and billy explained me because I burst out laughing. If you had not jumped in an answer that question the way you did. I still be staring at my microphone because I felt so bad for him. He asked about eighteen minutes ago if he said Hey someone say anything. If you've ever heard of Bob Jason we were all being honest. There would be silent still eighty minutes later well. Here's the thing we put the mayor not integrate spot where this guy has just Mr for mayor by the way thank you for service use a vet the mayor's on with us and he's you know he's done a lot of Nice things for us and he named the day after us and whatever and typical our show we just keep asking for more things we start asking him. Well you know as nice ice but how about a key to the city. How about this honor that you give to you know people from other countries? How about all kinds of and it's like we can't just say thank you right so then we put them in this awkward situation where he's as well only four people have gotten a key to the fort which is what they call it the key to their city? Only four people have gotten a key to the Ford and last twelve years of Tom Assuming how much time he served an office and then we're like we'll name them and then you've course starts telling us like these sad was amazing. What have that turn was comedic? <hes> just amazing. We were just asking hey what what about shelly long and then we just we twice. We stepped in that on that landmine of course because if only four people have gotten it. We should've thought to ourselves. Maybe these are people that have been through something heroic thing exactly not us. which is you know? We don't deserve any of this. It's a joke but he then tells us this sad story and then you know the mood kind of goes down a little bit so he tries to pick it up music. Hey how about this guy you might know this big sports guy and he says the name and then he just kind of like sitting there waiting for any okay and so this is what what happened okay because we were drowning at that point. I think not only one but two of the keys had gone posthumously. There were two deaths before what happened possibly all four if we would just if he brought it back I didn't I tried to pull the ripcord after he won one and then he went back for second helpings there. That's on him. I mean we actually want the key to the Ford. It might be curse. That's what the lawyers were afraid of that. If we got the private planes for the rest of we would be dying underway and the key to the fort because we were going to go as a surprise we were going to go to thirsty Thursday. Just show up. We had the private plane. We thought that was a really fun way for our show lands somewhere. Would you die if you knew you were. I'm going to get the key to the fort though I WANNA go out. It sounds like you have to that would be the game here. No you can't tell you a hero and modern than like from from the beyond me. The patron saint of dirty sports me book was trying to board a charter plane to watch live edition of the sports rush hosted by Brett rump. That's correct. That's what would have been happening here so anyways it came apart because Disney's lawyers are Disney's lawyers but here is here is billy guild to the rescue because after the to death after we've fouled up everything the whole thing took a dark turn. This is what the mayor says to rescue himself. I was someone you might know. Do you remember Bob Chase. he's yes bob bob jay's fort wayne comets for oh my god for just about ever as far as hockey <hes> he was the voice in w. w. o. <hes> <hes> but he was he was the <hes> the man sports <hes> in bob received one right before he left us when bob left you was it to another city or heaven now they haven't billy billy when you said yesterday bill you out by giving you bob chases resume oh i mean i was hoping to god there wouldn't be a follow who bob taste to get in there so quickly it's the fastest you've ever moved it's the most efficient that you've ever been listening to this okay because we were all punchdrunk and when this happened someone you might know do you remember bob chase yes real g's working silence stugatz here feet aching after a long day not smell and so great either yeah that's the case for me try new fatigue reducing insults from odor eaters i love these things i really do they're awesome they give you serious foot support with m._v._p. level odor 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somewhere smoking a cigarette you can't go down and allie around here not see someone sitting there smoking retains a pulsating keat from the night before you walk by some liquid they're like is that water last night that's definitely not water the liquid always avoid the liquids in an alley still guts i venture guests assume that if you were to rake your tongue on the asphalt of an alley you die immediately i don't think it would be immediately though i you'd contract very quickly right before death several sexual diseases and then you would die these live at our show with stugotz god's on e._s._p._n. radio i mike we might as well just have <hes> this meeting on the air <hes> where we talk about what this event could have been and now what it is it's become because it has risen up very close to the key to the fort it's we're we're on the cost if you had been listening <hes> when we got proclaimed the you know in this self involved way of our show very high fort wayne proclamation that was official we will it is official but unofficial i was kinda confused by that part the way that the mayor said it was a bit confusing but we got a proclamation can just when you think when i say the phrase proclamation what what time do you think of because it's not two thousand nineteen is it like the eighteen hundreds because this this segment from entertainment felt a bit like the eighteen hundreds a mayor poke proclaiming something on a._m. radio whereas were wayne is the dan card with stugatz town always has been always welby and whereas the fort wayne five get the show and for any other city and state of indiana who does not we were just have to agree eight to disagree the show typically a marching band to know where the fort wayne five just gets it done this captains of the stugotz army wow therefore i thomas henry mayor the city of fort wayne to here by proclaimed july eighteenth two thousand nineteen as the unofficial dan lewis ktar stu gods occurrence day in the city of fort wayne current one set bigger than that in fort wayne indiana and skew the fort right which this whole thing possibly hinges on mike what happened here like this took an ugly turn with you because i i don't use i'm not used to you being stu gods and always always grabbing for more like they gave us the proclamation that was a high honor it should have been enough and you're sitting there trying to get something better negotiating on air to get it well i must be frank i am investigating ways to get to fort wayne indiana tomorrow it ain't easy this thing needs to be worth our while my while i was anyone else back there wanna go is it worth my while because the problem with us doing it in the one of the places the lawyers got involved and why we needed private jet is because i can't drag my father around all over the place i gotta television show to do every day and so i couldn't get back and forth in time because fort wayne is a is a two airport city for us i'll be happy to go again no nelson do let's let's see if we could grow it out a little bit you wanna go is that what you're saying but you can't go because you your saddle but his t._v. these guys wanna bust their back on something we should make e._s._p._n. e._s._p._n.'s lawyers pay for something if these guys wanna go in and out and take whatever flights they were on some sort of field trip me and stugotz we'll do a truly terrible radio show in defiance of the lawyers the next couple of days because we have no producers on here at a lot of excuses as to why you guys can't go loyd stoop planes all this and just think about this the next time you criticise me about sioux falls oh yeah this is called yeah yeah embarks out there i say they learned from you oh sorry they learned in all from you <music> i'm proud of them growing out right in front of my is accused of the four makes this extra enticing say you guys wanna go over there as i want go i just can't get in and out of there i'll go i'll go i'll throw my i'm on fire i'm only going if they do key to the fort what's wrong with you people what you're already giving us a day that we don't deserve why do you want to thank you have all the leverage here billy to leverage play okay they desperately want people from the show to be there if you chris roy mike where to go out there they will give up a key to the fort right now they also played us because they're mayor was on a national show show today essentially yeah i'm talking hammering about fort wayne just giving the chase you know bob chase in the middle of that stu gods blurted for some reason loose lips sink tight ships and i i don't know why he throws a tight in there because the tight i don't think that's not the same with started kind of other grassroots thing on <hes> on social media <hes> as billy said i was a little bit of a chatty cathy trying to surprise interested interested a a little bit of a morsel to get people interested is what has how i lose lip sync tied ships in double fake laughter yup and it's not tight ship doing you wanted to pair construction loose over here in china over there that one sentence is the time you choose to be any kind of consistent with your joke making you don't even realize what you're doing yeah that's you're going for the crappy cliche going parallel construction donlevatar some people might think that i love you are the three best words together <hes> it's my favorite here. You can eat some of this. How `bout that House that sound it's i? I don't think there are three better words in the language. I didn't think you guys noticed man you like and how about that. V._C.'s live talk show with a STU gods on E._S._p._N.. Radio How long were Katy Perry and Russell brand married because <hes> I I remember I think I have this right that Russell Brand and and Katy Perry their their marriage might have fallen apart because he had posted a photo of them in bed without any of her makeup <hes> without any of her makeup and it was horrifying to her that she would be seen that way and then the Internet can rush fourth and judge her for not being pop star Katy Perry all they were married for fourteen months and I think you're just one running with their. I'm the only one I'm the only one that's okay. I don't no no that's the reason but I have you seen what Russell brand has made of his career since then because this guy I've always enjoyed talking to this guy and I feel like he's a bit of a dirty enlightened being that he is he's really quick nick and he's gotten a lot of opportunities and now he is poured himself into yoga and healing and meditation after going through sex and drug addictions because he was running around chasing whatever it is you thought you'd find in the bed of Katy Perry and and he did a movie. I like that movie that could have been his star turn but he didn't do anything with the American movies after that we're getting Sarah Marshall Yeah and then got into the Greek. The issue I think for him was like it was such a refreshing forgetting Sara Marshall because who is this accenture carries doing such a great job and then we realize it's just Russell brandies playing himself same thing is get them to the Greek. It was the same character so there was a really much of a variance in his roles Russell said that he was very busy and she was very busy busy and that was the reason for the divorce fame may blamed fame. Okay anyways your theory my larger point. Is that Russell brand. Get your points are larger that Russell brand is is <hes> really he's a really cool follow these days in terms of what he's doing with his life to because he's arrived at the other end of material things whatever he was chasing with the fame with the appetites in in his real L. Life get him to the Greek whatever he was chasing their didn't satisfy him and it sounds like he's a hell of a lot happier now that he's gotten to the other side of sex addiction and drug addiction poured himself into as not religious really but it is it is super self self healthy because it it's all spiritual in nature and he's dedicated himself think about that that's what he was chasing and what he's dedicated himself to. He was chasing the Rockstar and leather pants stuff all of it threat and now he's a bit of a Yogi. He's trying to help people out yeah I mean he's helping himself out obviously of course and through that he's trying to help other people out. I actually follow him on twitter. You're right. It's it's very motivational and there's very interesting stuff in there that can help a lot of people smart yes. He's he's liverties lived a big life that has had a lot of mistakes in it and so he has learned from those and he's just I mean he's real gift is that he's an uncommon communicator like you just don't here <hes> dudes that eloquent that crisp that fast on complicated subject yeah he's super quick and captivating <hes> so forgive me. I WANNA play that sound. Mike I do WANNA play that sound but <hes> let's go ahead and do stat out of the day start of the day startled day busiest out of the day start up the day startled me day busiest out of the day start of the day start of the day and easiest status the day start up. The day started the day of the day. Eh Ten this be possible because it's from the sign. I'm sorry it's from the at t talk sports on twitter and this is what he says and I'm asking you if this is possible if this is possible. Lebron has a career average of twenty seven seven and seven he's now played in in fourteen hundred thirty seven N._B._A.. Games and has yet to finish a game with exactly twenty seven seven and seven. Can that possibly be right now. I probably should have checked before we went on the air. The ten that stat possibly be right that he has averaged fours career twenty seven seven and seven and now has played in fourteen hundred thirty seven N._B._A.. Games and has yet to finish a game with exactly twenty seven seven seven. I mean I guess I guess it's possible. I find it nearly impossible but I guess I guess it's possible right. I mean it's clear major here if it'd be true if if it's true that concludes our contractually obligated Lebron talk for the day it'd been a couple of days without any LAKER talk a lot of game logs that go through there I mean I'm happy to do it. No you're not you're having to have someone do it for you and I'll take the Paul Silas years everybody yeah I got the black year. We're GONNA we're going to spread this room. I know there is similar ways to do this but I want to do it this way the well let's let's game log it yeah but I just have to worry for a year like that's it. I have to check a year. You took silence. That was a couple of years right. Yeah who's taken SPA anyone okay nick. That's going to commercial break and regather ourselves here. Donlevatar ooh Stugatz Oh B._C._C. Donlevatar show Oh with those two guys on E._S._p._N.. Radio Jeff Passan is going to be with us to talk baseball things but before we do that Stu gods i WanNa talk about what you think when you think when we do word association dion waiters leaders and if we're just <hes> if we're just taking adjectives let's go around the room here on dion waiters just adjectives to describe the things that dion waiters is go head Chris Ball Hog okay going after his game. I'm going game personality billy. What do you have for me on Dion Waiters Word Association <hes> muscular really instead of fat okay? That's interesting <hes> Roy. What about you <hes> shooter? Mike volume shooter suggests that he makes them at high club on earned arrogance not yet because I got him as being pretty edgy to would would you not <hes> I haven't been as a personality type. Somebody who is hard we enjoy his personality because of that arrogant and because he thinks he's he thinks he's always open and he thinks he's the best player on the team every time and you don't want to mess with Dion waiters. Do you like if I say to you people in basketball. I don't know if he's all dark alley team but people to not be trifled with dion waiters is rough around the from the mean streets affiliate. He makes reference to it. Yeah I don't WANNA I don't want the smoke from the waiters. <hes> it was interesting to watch him body shamed and hurt by on social media like it was interesting to watch it happen <hes> because he got injured. He heard his ankle like this is a guy who's been character smeared throughout out his time in the league you just heard it volume shooter ball hog unearned arrogance and the Miami didn't have a word. I didn't have a word but I I was GONNA say ragged a raw. Just I think of him as a very raw personality. <hes> none of you gave me that. Word you guys you guys didn't talk to personnel you. Guys were criticizing his game but the point I wanted to make is that this obviously hurt beyond waiters and just the idea of dion waiters <hes> being body shamed hard hard dion waiters being body shamed and hurt by it is very teenage body image problems like it's not exactly what I associate with Dion waiters and so now evidently he's back in shape because he got into the best shape of his life and he was doing those Players Tribune stories where he was talking about how crazy it was to get to that level of fitness and then the Miami Heat gave him in his son whiteside. That's first time the Miami Heat I've ever done anything like that. They decided to build around two knuckleheads buckle heads and everybody league agitated knuckleheads there and reputed knucklehead yeah because I don't want to calling them directly knuckleheads that would be an insult. It was weird though that that team would build around those to of course dion on waiters gotten great Schaefer contract year. It's the only time he's ever been in what many would call phenomenal playing shape. He was never one of these. You know athletic specimens. He always seemed to have a pot belly before before that year in Miami. It was noticeable the kind tape that he got in like it was. It's the thing that you accused James Harden enough. Yeah it will kyle lowry also noticeable when he got into really good shape like certain players they're they're a little rounder than others and when the waiters got integrate shape his game escalated and for that that that season look they they were pushing for a playoff spot he got hurt. He heard his ankle and they miss the playoffs. He was rewarded with a contract and he showed up into camp not in the best shape and then he was an unprofessional rehab is what I heard Unprofessional Professional Rehab and you know people around the facility were saying of dion waiters and Hassan whiteside. It's the reason I feel comfortable calling them. KNUCKLEHEADS is our alleged leaders our alleged because the because the rehab practices this is the waiters were so unprofessional if felt like he got the contract and went right back to being D._R.. Right whatever what everyone would have guessed would have happened. Oh we got in shaping a contract here and then he got fat but evidently now because he's still young somehow now. I don't know how that's possible but he's still relatively young. I all dizzy like twenty five twenty six. He I'm waiters. It feels like is played for twenty seven young but he's not he's not old like no no. He's he's lived in N._B._A.. Life this is perceived. You've prime of an N._B._A.. Player right now what he's headed into but you're surprised that a guy based on what we think we know about dion waiters would be would be would feel that badly about people criticizing him for being overweight on social media the body shaming would hurt that particular particular personality type jobs off at every turn. I don't give a bleep about what any of you think about anything it really. It's a mask for it's a human. It's a mask for insecurity that it's that that arrogance isn't isn't isn't real once. You admit that something like that can get to you when you've carried yourself your entire career. I don't care what anybody thinks my game at the end yeah I mean he was specifically going at people on Social Media and social media common sections especially for <hes> the perceived entitled Athletes Played a game for a living and makes millions and millions of dollars it can be it can be very mean place. I could see where someone gets thrown off by any eludes more things happening in his personal life than we even know about so you have to extend them that credit. What are the what are the famous examples in the Internet ages you see some of these athletes come up in the Internet age of some athletes getting fed up usually a fighter when I think of these things don't have any of the names at the top of my head and you've insulted him anonymously because you can something that you would never actually do and then the fighter shows up at your house search your place work durant but not through verified twitter account? You went the other way on that Yeah Right Yeah Zab Judah Viral Video Zab Judah confronting someone that was <hes> making comments on social media and dude was shook but it's interesting. It's interesting to see guys who come from whatever fighting mentality <hes> <hes> get baited into social media 'cause Dion waiters was calling people cowards and he's not wrong yeah. Amari sodomite recently was legitimately trying to find out where one person lived so he can go there and it's a bit of say it to my face yeah it say all your jokes to my face but we all have our vulnerabilities and sometimes someone gets something that you yourself are sensitive to and you can go off like me with the red it would you have thought ought to read it again. You need to stop reading that stuff. Man People mean address Miami so talk about the Miami Man. I'm trying well. Let's go ahead and sink into this. Go ahead and let's go ahead and have the war with all my himself talk. We've got a fan page. We've got a ridiculous fan page. You have to get out of that world. Mike good ideas one of the IDEAS would be. Hey Mike brought it today but just find those like sift through all of it at ignore the bad stuff at find the good ideas right. I try to control off Mike but it's a cesspool okay now but let's figure this out because if big bad dion waiters can and be hurt by his fans who tell me a pot belly you can also be hurt by your fans. Who Tell you you have pepperoni nipples so well? It's really not the body shaming thing that gets me people that have no idea what it is I actually do. I know it dion waiters. Does you know now he's inefficient. Jack up shots and sometimes he'll be you know the Golden State Warriors on a game winner and I love them and say whatever he wants me. I'm in the shadows. No one knows except for when I talk Miami Hurricanes or Miami Heat then we're in pretty very much in consensus consensus that terrible well explain that part to me because you have waited in now as because you have become the new agey thirty-three-year-old grew up in this market executive learned basketball N._B._A.. Twitter those are a lot of words it's eight years studying the Miami Heat and you love your Miami he'd basketball and whatever it is that you start talking in the local hour about Miami. Heat basketball and people want our show they immediately hate you takes trash. I'm I'm sorry I listened to Zach Lowe. What do you want me to do? You Want Russell Westbrook. Okay sorry I'm not asked. I'm not telling you to think just asking you if you'd like to see that's what's happening to your living my life fifteen years ago. Go your now officially because my at this same stage I walk onto the set of P._T._i.. And they're looking at him. They're looking at Tony and Mike and they're like looking at me and they're like oh no like if one of these guys goes out he's GonNa. He's going to get buried if because people don't know what it takes to have that kind of chemistry on television those T._v.. Shows don't last as long creative projects do not last as long on top is that one has in the middle of Your Sports Day because people have no earthly idea idea what it takes to keep those plates spinning everyday that accents their chemistry. I mean you fill in and people would come after you right you lose right away when you fill. I was carrying this crucifix for the next fifteen years because when I walked into the office is Eric Ride Home Brilliant Oracle that he is says you know what Dan I'm GonNa go extra strong on how much we don't want you here. We're going to protect the show and we're GONNA make you the hateful Dan Lebatardshow and I'm like but I'm not hateful yet and they're like you're about to you but you will be just gently. Tell you are too quiet down Mariotti light leaning to it. That's what's happened to Mike now though anytime if you both go out now all of a sudden Mike Scott to take the lead role and everyone else has got a phone with segment third and fourth role and then Mike's Yemen the whole time he's just gammon sounds like he's on red bull. He sounds like snorting sports and amphetamines because I am does sound like you're never gonNA stop. Talking people think that on the last segment ended.

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GSMC Music Podcast Episode 131: SXSW Canceled

GSMC Music Podcast

41:54 min | 7 months ago

GSMC Music Podcast Episode 131: SXSW Canceled

"I want to know the latest and hottest music hitting the airwaves. Don't be left out. Listened to the Golden State media concepts music. Podcast issue on the loop with everything you need to know if top Florida and we'll throw in means of your favorite artists concert tour and so much more. Listen you're further because this is the gold standard in music cats. Thank you for listening to the G. S. M. C. Music Potty is brought to you by the MC podcast network. I'm your host Lee Brown. The musical of constantly seeking positive. Let's get into. The Corona virus is all over the news including a music news in segment two. I will list the concerts and festivals that have been canceled thus far but one festival that refuses to cancel is south by South West. The Huge Austin Texas Festival is still scheduled to precede March thirteenth through the twenty second. Despite the fact that major brands an artist are dropping out. Paramount said that while it was keeping its March. Fourteenth World Premiere of the Love Bore The love birds in its lineup. Stars Kumhal the genie and Isa Ray and director. Michael showalter would not be attending as planned. Paramount will be doing press for the movie in Los Angeles in lieu of Austin Lionsgate and their stars network said they were no longer attending as the parent. Company is insisting employees not conduct non-essential business trouble. At this time there was a feature panel for power with Creator Courtney. Kemp executive producer Curtis Fifty Cent Jackson and stars President and CEO. Jeffrey Hirsch. That is no longer happening. There was also a world premiere in activation for stars upcoming series town. Not only our talent backing out of the fest but there won't be a screening of high town nor planned activation lionsgate's home entertainment actually will hold their world premieres. Just not with their talents. Those movies include the Liam Hemsworth Vivica Fox. Vince Vaughn crime filler. Arkansas and Michael Shannon Shea Wyndham cry crime mystery thriller the Corey Rocker as Osborne. Universal Music Group and Warner media confirmed. They're pulling out of their respective slots at the Austin based festival. Osborne was scheduled to attend in support of the world premiere screening of an e networks biography. The nine lies of Ozzy Osbourne. It's two hour documentary set to air this summer. The DOC is still sets Aboul March Seventeenth and the twenty four beats per second sidebar on Wednesday netflixing apple said. They were exiting awesome based festival a day after Amazon. Said it was doing the same. All three companies had content bound for different sections. That now will not be in the mix. They joined facebook twitter. Who had earlier pulled out of the festival? Net flicks had planned to screen fi films the feature uncorked Docu series. A secret love. La Basically they got a whole list of stuff they was gonNA premier On march fifteenth panel featuring Kanye Berries and Rashida Jones discussing their series. Hashtag excellence was also cancelled. Apple's lineup had included premieres of originals Lake Spike Jones documentary BC. Boys story is also cancelled according to the World Health Organization. More than three thousand two hundred eighty people worldwide have died from the corona virus as of Thursday. Eleven people have died in the US. So I an amendment on south by South West as of Friday afternoon. The city of Austin cancelled the annual south by southwest festival due to Corona Virus Outbreak Mayor Steve Adler announced Friday afternoon. Prompting Festival organizers to release a statement saying they were devastated and still working through the ramifications of Adler is decision lady Gaga has a man Gaga shared acute self. You were her current boyfriend tech investor. Michael Polanski is seen leaning in over her shoulder while riding in a jet. Gog captioned the post. I've got a stupid love. This isn't the first time Gaga has posted about Polanski online after speculation that the two were dating surfaced following her pre super bowl performance in Miami got posted a photo of the two cuddling together on a boat letting fans know that the rumors were true. Gog wasn't the only one excited to share her new photo. Bello Popstar Arianna. `Grande left a comment on the stars. Post telling the couple adore you both so much in classic Celine Dion Fashion. The singer shut it down. The New York sidewalks on Thursday in Michael Kors plag- dress with a built in Cape in matching structured beret. She got her stray pose on for the Paparazzi as she served up her latest fashion forward. Look a man who attended a toll concert at spark arena in Auckland New Zealand last Friday. His tested positive for corona virus and is now self isolation the New Zealand Herald reports that the unidentified man the fourth person in New Zealand diagnosed with the Coleman nineteen strain of the virus has been isolated since Wednesday and does not require hospital care just hours before her premiere on season. Twelve of RU. Paul's drag race drag star. Sherry pie is already in hot. Water after five actors accused her of cat fishing them in a report from buzzfeed news. Five New York actors accused their former Sunny Portland classmate. Joey Google Meli pies birth name opposing as a casting director over email and asking each of them to send him embarrassing audition tapes of themselves doing a variety of degrading activities. One actor even said he'd agreed to masturbate on camera for the online persona. Now that after was stupid for that I mean that's like acting edition. Roll Number One. Come on now wait. What role was trying to get? What was the part commonsense people commonsense? Okay so Sherry Pie. Went on our facebook page and posted a public apology for the behavior. the post says. This is Joey. I want to start by saying how sorry I am that I caused such trauma and pain and how horribly embarrassed and disgusted. I am with myself. I know that the pain and hurt I have caused will never go away. And I know that what I did was wrong and truly cruel irate so Demi Levato was on Ellen and when asked what made her throw it all away after six years of sobriety popstar revealed that her breaking point stemmed from an eating disorder. That became all consuming. She says it. Let me to being really really unhappy. My Bolivia got really bad and I asked for help and I didn't receive the help that I needed. Levada went on to explain that when she reached out to her then management team questioning her sobriety. The reaction she received was anything but compassionate. They responded with Lake. You're being very selfish and this would ruin things not just for you but for us as well okay. Now who's who selfish by saying that people come on just feel like you've to use commonsense we gotta use commonsense. Why are you listening to other people listening to other people? Tell you to send embarrassing auditions and to masturbate. And you're all you're all about your sobriety and are being a. You're you're selfish. Come on now I understand being young in heave but to a certain extent dimsdale for that but she got it together she got it together so She says an when I heard that my core issues are abandonment for my birth father as a child so when they left they totally played that played on that fear. Ifo completely abandoned so I drink and that night I went to a party and there's other stuff there and it was only three months before I ended up in hospital with an od. I think is important that I sit here on this stage until you at home or you in the audience or you right here that if you do go through this you yourself can get through it you can get to the other side and it may be bumpy but you are at ten out of ten. Don't forget it and as long as you take the responsibility you can move past it and learn to love yourself the way that you deserve to be loved. Ne Musician and composer Brett. Dean has been hospitalized in Australia. With the new corona virus British agent Inter Musica confirmed on Thursday. That the violinist are violinist and conductor was in isolation in. Adelaide hospital with the Kobe. Nineteen illness he was to perform with the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra and Beethoven Concert at the annual Adelaide Festival on Saturday Post Malone has fans concerned after nearly falling apart on stage. The chart-topping singer was performing his single. I fall apart. You're has runway tour at the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville on Wednesday when he appeared to breakdown on stage in the video clip which went viral on Social Media. Posts fell to the ground before tumbling over himself. His voice wavered as he struggled to get back up. Fans took to twitter to express their concern after seeing the alarming video. These clips of Post Malone are disturbing. And it's breaking my heart dude. Wow tweeted one fan while another added. I hope he gets the help he needs if he's hurting. I'd hate to see anything happen to him so I watched the clip. It looks like it's part of the routine for him to fall and deliver lyrics from the floor since the song is called fall apart but he does look like. He was struggling and falling apart while singing the song. Now obviously dude wrote the song for a reason or heathen write it. He chose it because he connects with the lyrics. But fans should be concerned with all these artists dying and self medicating the concerns are valid. I mean but to me. His everyday look doesn't look healthy at all now. Pop smoke was laid to rest in Brooklyn on Thursday family and friends turned out in droves to celebrate the twenty year. Old Robbers live during a massive funeral procession in. I do not know how to pronounce the name. But it's K. A. N. C. A. N. A. R. S. I. E. Happened in Brooklyn. I'm assuming neighborhood in Brooklyn. But a white horse drawn carriage made its way through the streets fans lined up on the sidewalks to pay their respects to their fallen star. The black casket with glass windows and White. Curtains travel pass a mural honoring pop smoke while fifty cents for Saatchi. Rats Lamborghini was a part of the procession. At one point. Pop smokes music blared from the speaker along. Sign a hearse alongside. A hearse as fans popped champagne and dance to his songs including invincible. His mother waved to fans who chanted woo as the carriage drove past them week in Pop. Smokes family honored him during a private ceremony? After today's procession he will be laid to rest in a Brooklyn Cemetery. The family of Buscher pop smoke Jackson will like to express our sincere gratitude to everyone for your support. The Jackson family said in a statement last month every prayer call. An Act of kindness is deeply appreciated. And we mourn the loss of our son brother and friend so we will take a break and return with tour and Festival News. Always on the go but the date. Just be one without your Hollywood split. Golden State Media Gone Subset Pin podcast. Take care of that and all inclusive look pop culture. Hey I'm andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed out of touch. 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More than twenty thousand music events between January and March have been cancelled or postponed in China and Hong Kong costing two billion in ticketing and box office losses. According to the China Association Performing Arts with the disease reaching more than forty countries billboard has compiled an ongoing list of major concerts and events that have been postponed or cancelled due to the outbreak. Now they do have a list that includes January and February but since we're in March I'm just in March so march. I set it off called off dates in Asia on Sunday. Due to unforeseen circumstances and for everyone's safety the ban also cancelled their opening slots for Jimmy eat world on March twelve and thirteenth in Manila and Singapore March. Second Wolf parade cancel European and UK dates for the tour supporting their latest album. Thin mind the first show was scheduled for March second. In the Netherlands March second Luchino coil cancelled their tour of Asia and Australia are home region of Lombardia. Italy is in the midst of a con. A Corona virus break. Everyone's health and safety must come first and this includes our fans March Third Malamah postpones his upcoming concert in line amid outbreak. Italy march third ultra Abu Dhabi. The Middle Eastern edition of the Miami Bass Festival is cancelled. It will set to happen in March fifth or six March third where I carry. His postponed postponed her Honolulu date until November. I was so excited to come back to Hawaii on my anniversary month. But evolving international travel restrictions forced us to consider everyone's safety and will being march third where to singer. Young blood called off a tourist later to kick off in South Korea as well as shows in Japan Hong Kong the Philippines and Singapore. At first I was going to say. Fuck it and calm but we have been advised again too seriously. Not March third. Ultra music festival flagship. Miami Festival scheduled for March Twentieth through the twenty second is called off. According to the city officials slipknot postponed a planned Asia tour slated to kick off a march twentieth with a two night. Not fess were fellow. Hard rockers. Whitesnake sons of Apollo. And Michael. Sh- NECKER FEST OFF cancelled dates March fourth as a result of apple pulling out of this year south by southwest festival along with twitter. Amazon. Tick Tock facebook and other major companies Spike Jones. Bbc's story documentary is not slated to premiere at the event. Nine inch nails has also dropped out of the film. Portion of the annual film are at the Annual Festival Dinesh Nell says. We're sorry we won't be giving our watchman keynote at South by southwest share because we had some surprises in store however it was the right decision March fifth Louis Thomasson tweeted to fans at the president of the Council of ministries had decreed that his march eleventh show at the fabric in Milan had been called off March Fifth Queen and Adam Lambert notified fans that the group's plan may twenty six show at the Acor hotels arena in Paris has been postponed following a government decree and France to cancel all indoor events over five thousand capacity's capacity in France until the thirty first of May in an effort to contain the spread of Corona virus. The Band said they are working with promoter to reschedule the date and will announce a new one soon march fifth organizers of Tomorrowland winter and France and stars that they have canceled the twenty twenty winter edition of the Electronic Dance Music Festival and Tomorrowland winter. Twenty twenty was set to run March fourteenth through the twenty first at the French. Alpine ski resort in out. Bay Day I do not say French word but yeah so. Don't be surprised if we hear. Coachella will be cancelled and teen choice award winners. Salmon Colby have announced a thirteen date Paranormal German tour across the US that includes stops in New York Chicago Nashville and more Cumulating with an appearance at the Fonda in Los Angeles on May Twenty Six. That's still set to go. Hopefully it will continue now onto the top. Ten songs played in the United States according to Apple Music. Roddy which is the box is back at number one low baby gonNA heating up temporarily held that spot but I knew radio would be number two LAVAR that way number three low baby commercial featuring losy fart number four low baby ain't GonNa Heaton up number five baby scarred number six little baby. Whoa NUMBER SEVEN LITTLE BABIES. Something approved number eight. Live off my closet. Featuring everyone's favorite feature future again got ever INS favorite feature future and again this little baby number nine bad bunny latiff cell number ten future drake life is good now. Let's compare that to the top. Ten songs played globally according to apple music number one rowdy rich still locally and in the US That's the box number two lows evert that way number three low baby commercial featuring Lil boosie. Burt number four little baby and GonNa Heaton up number five of the weekend lining lights number six future featuring drake life is good number seven bad bunny loudly for cell number. Eight bad bunny. See via Tom Mama. Yano only language I speak is English so I can't pronounce that now. Fighting English could barely pronounce English. Words number nine low baby emotionally scarred number town. Little baby will now. What have I been German so I ran through? Little babies might turn. There is a reason why is all over the top team in the US and globally? It jams I don't have a fall of standouts but live off my closet. That title trips me up. 'cause it don't make sense. I want to say live off my chest or live from my closet but live off. My clothes closet does not flow naturally. But the SAN's slaps forever will low Wayne and catch the sign. I really enjoyed to keep it. Real kid is talented but not really my cup of tea. I may listen one more time I had never heard of G. Herbert until I reported that. His P. T. S. and E. Dropped because he had so many mainstream featured on his album. I listened I have the same cinemas with him as I do. Low baby cool albums by ninety to put on repeat personally but I see why others would now. Princess Nokia is my flavor of tea. This week was the first time I heard of her and her grains and hand song I download it both her twenty twenty projects. Everything sucks and everything is beautiful. I didn't realize that they were companion pieces when I downloaded them. I reported on. Most everything sucks in the last episode. Dade it's dark but the production is buyer. My standout are Harley Quinn. A lay came and Balenciaga. I learned about her extremely dark in painful child in just a kid. She talks about her mom passing her dad being on drugs and her grandma raised her until she was eight until her grandma passed away then. She was adopted or had a foster mother. That was kind of confusing. Wasn't quite clear on that. She says she literally says those adopted but then she said that the woman had Lake ill-intentioned that was doing it for money with adoption. And you've got to pay for a kid. Fostering you make money. So that's what makes more sense to me. But anyways that's a little foggy on whether she was adopted or fostered but other ways some Menas lady took care of her and abused her So she was about being a sad kid so yeah I get why she titled The project. Everything sucks when I heard that final track but then it's a drastic clip with project. Everything is beautiful. The production is sunny up lifting. You can't really label her style because she experiments with almost every project no projects on the same and when it comes to her songs she flinches. is constantly switching her flow And she's dope at it at all styles but I really was thinking everything sucks the most so we will take a break and return with music history with Celine Dion searching vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The Golden State Media Concept podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that. Podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. Www DOT MC podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the MC music podcast. And let's get into music history with Selene Dion according to all music dot com and I even ally. This has been the longest history that I've ever read but a Selene Diaz may sense so here. We go folks on her humble roots as a french-language teenage pop singer to international superstardom. Canadian singer Celine Dion became a multi platinum. Grammy Winning Crossover Success in the ninety s after breaking into the English language market with Heartfelt Ballads. That shined a spotlight on her powerful and in middle voice in addition to winning first prize at the one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Eurovision Song Contest Dion also scored multiple grammy awards including album of the year for Nineteen ninety-six falling into you her award. Winning contributions to film soundtracks helped expand presence into the pop culture mainstream most notably would songs like beauty and the beast from Nineteen ninety-one Disney animated film and the blockbuster. My heart will go on from the Nineteen ninety-seven box office smash titanic decades into her career. Her status as a beloved pop icon was further cemented with a record-breaking Las Vegas residency at Caesar's palace making her one of the highest grossing artists of all time born on March thirtieth nineteen sixty eight and Charlemagne Quebec. Selene Marie Claudette Dion. One of fourteen children dam in a large family. That fostered a love music. She started singing at a young age performing the families. Piano Bar Piano Bar. Okay Damn get it family and at her older brother's wedding pursuing her dream of becoming a singer. She wrote her song. Daig again Yano English. I'll say it in English. It was only a dream and nine hundred eighty with her mother and brother released in June nineteen eighty-one the single peaked in the top twenty of Quebec singles chart and landed her the debut. Full length. La Hoya Juan de Yala just GonNa have to use to meet your stuff during his one which was released in November of the same year under the guidance of the producer and manager Rene and Galley Dion went onto win top performer. The best song at the nineteen eighty two Jamaa World Popular Song Festival in Tokyo in Multiple Felix Awards in her native Quebec for her third effort. Element is Jay Damore which won best pop album newcomer of the year and female vocalist of the air. The album was certified platinum in Canada while leaping to France where were also became a hit a steady stream a release followed into the late eighties including four studio albums a handful of compilations and a pair of Christmas collections which helped make her inroads into international markets like Belgium and Switzerland. In one thousand nine hundred seventy on receives a full pop makeover on her eighth LP economy toe the double platinum set spawned five hit singles and was promoted with a Canadian tour that included a multi month residency at the Saint Denis Theatre in Montreal in the midst of income needles whirlwind success. Dion one thousand nine hundred eighty eight year vision song contest. representing Switzerland with knee parts Whatever again poised for greater international exposure dion finally made her move beyond her French language. Canadian release taking aim at the US. Pop mainstream at the turn of decade great. Hopefully I can pronounce the rest of the stuff from here on released on Columbia records in April. Nineteen ninety. Unison was the first England's English language album following a concentrated effort to improve her language skills and we'll training. The leap paid off in unison was a massive success. Massive success selling more than a million copies in the US IN MILLIONS WORLDWIDE. In addition to singles have a heart in unison. The album also included billboard hits like the last snow if there was any other way in. Where does my heart beat now? Which peaked at number four on the hot one hundred and number two on the adult? Contemporary Chart unisons performance dion attract the attention of Disney and she was recruited for Nineteen ninety-one beauty and the beasts a duet with Peabo Bryson from animated film of the same name. The valid was top. Ten hit winning dion a grammy for best pop performance by a duo or group with vocals. Her second English language album arrived in one thousand nine hundred to reading the success and beauty and the beasts included as the sets. First Single Celine. Dion made confidence steps. Made confidence steps away from the youthful pop of her previous. Release presenting a mastery branding for the singer on yearning ballads and confident. Rb inspired dance numbers the self titled Effort in entered the top forty of the billboard. Two hundred eventually out selling unison. It included hit singles if you ask me to nothing broken but my heart and love can move mountains. Meanwhile away from the Public Id on and Geli began a romantic relationship. Subtly unveiled a nine hundred ninety three in the liner notes of her next album. The couple would wed at the end of nineteen ninety four issued in November. The color of my love topped charts across Europe and Canada entering the top ten in the US and even Japan. It was her highest selling effort to date with over. Twenty million copies. Sold the Juneau and grammy-winning our meal Romantic Eights. Lake Clive Griffin Duet. When I fall in love from the sleepless in Seattle Sanchez soundtrack the UK Chart Topper. Think twice in the International Smash Power of love a cover of a Jennifer rush song that went on to win the Grammy for best instrumental arrangement accompanying vocals as love became dion biggest album to date. She shifted back to her French audience with another blockbuster following the release of live album here we go again. Allah Olympia recorded in Paris in September. Nineteen eighty-four Dion issued. Daewoo released as the French album in the US. In one thousand nine hundred five the set included chart topping singles. Like some French snuff. I cannot pronounce which bulk shots at number one in France and Belgium the album itself state atop the French chart for a whopping forty four weeks becoming the best selling album of all time. Her months a French chart dominance came to an end. In nineteen thousand nine hundred six when she was toppled from the top spot by her own album falling into you returning to the English language output. Dion hit another career high point with falling into surpassing the success of previous efforts the L. P. found dion at a peak in popularity extending her chart dominance around the world with platinum singles. Leg It's all coming back to me now and the grammy winning. Because you loved me from the up close and personal soundtrack. Frequent collaborators Diane. Warren and David Foster returned to the work to work on the project which won Grammy Awards for album of the year and best pop album while becoming one of the best selling albums of all time and supported the effort. Dion embarked on a world tour. That lasted over a year hitting spots in Asia and Australia mere months. After the tourist final date in Switzerland Dionne returned to the top of the charts with a follow up. Let's talk about love arrived in late. Nineteen ninety seven gusts like Barbra streisand the BG's Luciano Pavarotti Bryan Adams. Diana king a whole lot of people were enlisted for vocal duets in songwriting in addition to hit duets. Tell him in immorally. Let's talk about love featured. What would become dion signature song? My heart will go on. Which was the blockbuster Film the theme firm the Blockbuster Film. The titanic with this unmistakable Flute Melody and Cinema Matic scope the single match. The film's cultural dominance becoming a ubiquitous ubiquitous radio staple in topping charts in Canada Europe Australia and the US after winning an Kademi award in one thousand nine hundred seven for best original song my heart will go on scored a Golden Globe in one thousand nine hundred eighty before sweeping the nineteen ninety. Nine grammys with winds. How does she win? From Ninety seven and ninety eight she wrote the Song Ninety seven then it should have won a grammy and I learned ninety seven at least the latest ninety eight nineteen ninety nine. That'll make no sense but anyways before sweeping the nineteen thousand. Nine grammys with wins for record of the year. Song of the year. Best female pop vocal and Best Song for motion. Picture or television while touring in support of. Let's talk about love. Dionne issued the holiday albums. These are special times a greatest hits compilation all the way a decade of Song in another French release that I cannot pronounce. She kept off the decade by receiving the titles of officer of the Order of Canada for outstanding contribution to the world of contemporary music and officer of the National Order of Quebec after her unbroken run of nineteen ninety s of run of nineties after her unbroken run of ninety s chart success in international touring. Dion took a well deserved break to focus on her family prompted in part by a cancer diagnosis for angle. And the two thousand one birth of her first child. Dionne returned to music in two thousand with a refreshed. Pop Sound on. New Day has come another multi-platinum chart topper. The album was inspired by the birth for sign and the September eleventh attacks which push dion to focus on love hope and fresh beginnings while not as globe conquering as her late nineties releases. A new day manage to yield uplifting hits leg a new day has come and I'm alive a pair of sweeping tracks that highlighted her new millennium pop confidence dion quickly followed with two thousand. Three's one heart home to the urgent dance. Pop single. I drove all night one heart stylistic shift was met with criticism becoming her lowest selling english-language effort in over a decade yet even with this seemingly commercial disappointment the album was so certified plan in sold over five million copies worldwide. Why because she's signed? Er Two thousand four. Also saw the release of a new day live in Las Vegas a concert. Recording of her multimillion dollar five year residency at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas occupied by these live shows which had dion books per nightly performances. Five days a week. She released a comprehensive greatest hits collection on changed pa. I'm sorry all I even took French in high school that's pretty sad Which compiled her french-language hits from nineteen eighty one to two thousand five and two thousand seven after the release of another French album the LS an ambitious concert featuring concept featuring songs written by French female authors Dionne returned with a course correcting follow up to One Heart. Taking chances arrived at the end of two thousand seven it comeback of sorts the LP included. The said Seoul hid taking chances What else alone. And Yeah okay look featured. Despite being one of her lowest selling English efforts taking chances was supported with a record breaking international tour that made stops in South Africa China Malaysia and Australia. Becoming one of the highest grossing tricks of All Time Y. because she is selling another best compilation. My Love Essential Collection which collected hits released after nine hundred ninety nine all the way kept dion charts following the conclusion of her world tour which was commemorated on two thousand ten taking chances. World tour. The concert recorded in Boston and Montreal. She also signed on for a second multi year contract concert residency at the Coliseum as Caesar's palace which had a plan to run that extended into two thousand nineteen. Meanwhile she issued another French album Suns Atop Andrei in late twenty twelve topping charts and worldwide French markets and. A lonely eleventh. English album loved me back to life followed in two thousand and thirteen in addition to the pen title track loved me also included duets with neo. Incredible and Stevie wonder over joy in two thousand fourteen. John's Vegas residency. In Asia. Tour were abruptly halted after Anghelis. Health began to further deteriorate although her performances resumed a year. Later in the summer of two thousand fifteen they were once again halted in early two thousand sixteen with a tragic deaths of both and Galley and her brother Daniel Dion which came within two days of each other. That's hard that is hard that's terrible. I remember lot tune. That's terrible devastated. Took time away from the spotlight for a month down really on. It's hard being Celine Dion. She definitely needed more time than they're returning to the stage and February. That's some are release. Encore on sore and introspective set of uplifting pop that peaked at number one in Canada France Belgium Switzerland notably notably becoming Diaz first french-language effort to chart on the billboard charts. Encore was home to singles like the title track. Lay a totally. I don't know She returned to the world of film soundtracks in two thousand seventeen. Reuniting with the property that helped break her into the American pop culture landscape over twenty five years earlier she contributed. How does a moment lasts forever? To Disney's live action remake of Gideon the bees which makes total sense. She was on the first one day. The second one The song tops the charts in even entered the top ten across Asia in two thousand eighteen. She contributed to another though. Slightly more Unorthodox Soundtrack Deadpool to it. I don't call that okay. Ashes landed that may accompanied by a music video starring Dion and the tits in the Superhero and the Superhero. That quickly went viral. I don't know if I remember that. The following year Dion released the club friendly anthem flying on my own as the first track from her twelfth English language album courage a triumph of spirit. The set showcase a revitalised dion who was aided by pop in electric guests. Such as David Guetta. Sam Smith in scholar grey. The album topped the Canadian and US charts who hurry. I told you I was. I was going to be a long bio but it's I mean when I think of Celine Dion I think of one of my hobbies I think of Shawna she we actually we're infringe together in high school. Whenever we have to do a French project on a person she would always do celine dion and she loves her Cellini on. So that's an of course. I know like her movies scores. Or You know the themes for movie soundtracks but other than that. Besides her being a diva. I remember her being on the divas. Lake every year Besides I I mean I really don't have much else to say about Celine Dion other than she's legend. So I definitely appreciate your time. Thank you for listening to the. Gmc Music podcast brought to you by the GS MC music podcast network. If you like what you heard. Subscribe to our podcasts. And until next time I'm Julie Brown. The Music Lover Constantly seeking positive music. You're listening to the golden state media. Concept's music podcast part of the Golden state media concepts podcast network. 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"It's October Thirteenth Nineteen ninety-one one at candlestick park in San Francisco Dion. Sanders stands at the goal. Line in the Falcons Jersey awaiting a forty niner kickoff. It's the the third quarter and the crowd is buzzing but it has nothing to do with primetime just moments ago forty nine receiver Jerry Rice Holding a fifty seven yard touchdown pass. The crowd went threes dion nut so much Indians young. NFL L. career seeing rice up close with the ball in the end zone has become an all too familiar sight during their first meeting. In one thousand nine hundred nine John's rookie year Jerry out randy on for one touchdown and burned him one on one for another. The forty niners won that game forty five to three and then beat Dion. John's Falcons again in Atlanta. The Falcons finished nineteen eighty-nine with an awful three and thirteen record. While Jerry's niners finished fourteen into ooh and flattened the DENVER broncos fifty five to ten in the Super Bowl for their second straight world championship. Jerry led the way with three touchdown touchdown catches to help deliver the Games. MVP Trophy to quarterback Joe. Montana Dion watched it all on tv one thousand nine hundred ninety though somehow got worse for prime time. His Falcons secondary against the now two-time champs the first time at candlestick Park San Francisco. Jerry pulled in one hundred seventy one yards worth of catches including a forty two yard touchdown in a dominant forty niners win. Two Games later sold out. Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta Falcons. cornerback not named Dion. Tried taking Jerry. One on one. And the Falcons paid the price. Rice racked up two hundred twenty five yards receiving and five touchdown receptions tying an NFL record India two professional seasons. He's he's now Owen four against Jerry's niners in those games. Jerry has eight eight touchdown catches dion. Meanwhile has picked off just one pass has and hasn't yet found the end zone either on defense or as a return specialist something. He's keenly aware of as he stands a few yards into the end zone. Now awaiting a niner's kickoff over although dion has been an excellent NFL player albeit. For an overall bad falcons defense. He knows that and he makes sure everyone knows that he knows that. He's had eight interceptions in two seasons and returned a couple of them for touchdowns and he also returned punt for a touchdown but still dion has yet to make a pro bowl and now he's wondering when everyone else will realize how great great he actually is and how much money will follow two years ago when he received his first NFL paycheck. Dion fulfilled the childhood. Promise must he made to his mom that one day he'd be so rich that she'd never have to work again. But there's a memory that still haunts him before his mom's mansion action was ready. Dion made a final visit to his old house on Henderson Avenue. In Fort Myers. He saw the scary cemetery he used to run by and late that evening. He couldn't sleep as he heard the sound of rats scratching behind the houses walls. He felt horrible that his mother still had to live that way even for another night. It's been a constant constant reminder that for her sake he cannot ever stop making big money otherwise she could lose the mansion and return to poverty to avoid. That Dion Dionne knows that he must remain in the spotlight and continued to produce on the field that means he needs to keep producing highlights and wins today in this warm breezy October. Nineteen ninety-one game in San Francisco. No one is giving the falcons much of a shot. They entered candlestick as ten and a half point. Underdogs the Falcons are two and three. If they lose any shot the playoffs. We'll start floating away in the bay win with the game tied at twenty twenty in the third quarter. After Jerry's touchdown dion brings in the kickoff at the Falcons goal. Dion knows he needs to his team is shot in the arm right now. Dion John Follows a few blockers then notices Elaine Open Up. He shifts into another gear of empty. Twenty good awarded thirty yards dion. High stepping into the end zone helps US falcons to the surprising win but his personal battle with Jerry. Rice is far from over two years. After the candlestick crowd booed dion for Yanking Jerry's facemask. Dion has a message for them. After the game he tells reporters that I love coming here and beating the forty niners all their fans going to jump right off the bandwagon Jerry. Jerry Rice isn't ready to concede anything to be on Santa's that easily by now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service that includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic. Traffic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries in the entire streaming landscape. And it's all at free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven dwarfs to modern blockbusters like Captain Marvel and vendors endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries stories like National Geographic's Free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the the simpsons and host of originals. Like the man delorean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical the musical the series. He's a very Meta take on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become one of the most talked about streaming services of twenty nineteen. So nope don't miss out sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today uh from wondering I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports worse in in the last episode we explored how Jerry Rice who was drafted into the NFL amid a cloud of some doubt over his small. All school competition overcame early failures in the NFL to become a super bowl champion and legitimate superstar we looked at how Dion Sanders Sanders with his. Now show stopping speed and showboating style landed a big NFL contract in his preferred city and made an instant on field impact. But in their much hyped initial encounter dion was ruthlessly. Welcome to the League by the five year veteran rice as we move into the nineteen nineties with both players is coming into their own as stars their little back and forth will become full on battles when they're deeply rooted needs for winning and excellence as for relevance and recognition feel more and more unsatisfied. They each consider a move. That will tie together. Their football legacies forever. This is is episode three sleepless nights. It's Sunday November. Third Nineteen ninety-one Atlanta's Fulton County Stadium. Three weeks after for the Falcons stunned the forty niners in San Francisco. It's an unseasonably cool afternoon. But the Falcons who haven't had a winning season in nearly a decade aid are red hot. They've now won four of six and if they can take this one and sweep the niners for the season. They'll have a rare winning record and shot at the playoffs playoffs. The niners are still favored by five on the road. But the Falcons are out to prove that they're upset and San Francisco was no fluke. The city of Atlanta Lanta somewhat used to their team's disappointing is starting to embrace the Falcons on Atlanta's sideline dion good friend. Mc Hammer is roaming around around in his shades and Maroon suit his new single too legit to quit for good. Reason is a smash hit standing near Hammer a bay area native mind. You is the falcons colorful second year. Head coach Jerry. GLANVILLE WHO's wearing all-black not too far. Away newly-acquired Falcon Receiver. Andre Reisen season is already drawing opponents. Finally Dion thinks I'm surrounded by guys with my sort of swagger. These are my people. Aw On the other side Line Jerry. Rice looks over at MC hammer and rolls his eyes. The Falcons are not Jerry's kind of team. They're not the type of players who hand the ball to the official. After scoring a touchdown. They're not the sort of everyday pros who conservatively fall on bumbler cautiously go down after intercepting a pass ask knelt. These are dudes who showboat in the end zone who unnecessarily try and lateral the ball around after a takeaway like a bunch of careless clowns probably W. why they haven't won a damn thing thinks jerry all sizzle no steak. That lucky win a few weeks ago not happening again. Rice knows knows it's on him to make sure there's no more embarrassment this season for the niners. This is a crossroads for the franchise. They're also foreign four at this point after back to back Super Bowl titles in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight eighty nine. The niners were fourteen into last season but lost to the eventual champion giants in the NFC title game. They're also now a couple years removed from the retirement of former head coach. Bill Walsh mastermind of the franchises. Incredible run also to veteran stars of the one thousand nine hundred forty niner dynasty defensive back Ronnie Lott and running back Roger. Craig left after last year. For the Cross town raiders. The niners legendary legendary quarterback Joe. Montana is now thirty five years old and out for the season with an injury. His replacement is Steve. Young young lefty. WHO's been waiting in the wings long enough to start law? School classes young is talented. But the jury's still out as to whether he can be great so this is Jerry's team now the niners to return to excellence he'll have to lead the way and today the NFL media is largely expecting a big game from Jerry as he looks to exact his and the forty niners revenge. Jerry rises made a career out of blowing against Atlanta Fourteen touchdowns twelve games including five on this field a year ago. It's the first quarter and the forty niners second goal. At the Falcons seven Jerry lines up to the left. He looks across the Line of scrimmage and sees guarding him. One on one. Jerry thinks he's all my as young takes the snap. Dion gets up on Jerry Jackson Rice than breaks free and stutter steps to his right. Got Him Jerry thanks dion is now trailing him by a few steps Jerry then raises his left hand to signal his openness to young and weights throw sanders for Jerry. Rice sparkling supply by Sander's man for man bump and run. He had a look at the control center. It had been a touchdown rice. His pissed a Montana throat would have the easy made it seven. Nothing and I wouldn't have Dion Sanders yapping in my ear this entire time dion. Meanwhile nosy got away with one on the next play. Young is sat. And then the Falcons blocked the forty niner field goal attack. It's a huge stop. The crowd is going bananas. The niners then get the ball back. After a defensive stop of their own near midfield young goes back to throw with dion still covering Jerry man to man again again jerry gets open and this time dion can't recover Jerry Rice soap within Atlanta territory working on Dion Sanders as Sapiro another first later in the quarter young tries Jerry again. I down for the niners. Despite Jerry finding space against Dion it's still scoreless in the second quarter when Dion is matched up with a different forty nine receiver section soups of the San Francisco. Forty the Taliban into the second half the niners still lead the falcons seven. Nothing but now Steve. Young is hurt hurt. And they're down to third string quarterback Steve Bono Bono takes the snap throws to Jerry who's lined up to the left against Diaz second down and five look get all the guys they got to change the plan. Throw the ball quickly over the rice sticks ahead down picks up the first down white over Dion Sanders. The niners have the ball near midfield. Dion is guarding Jerry. Man to man on the left dion quickly pumps jerry off the line but bono throws throws the ball to Jerry Anyway. It's still up in the air to sanders true to character dion and his defensive teammates. Try some extra flash on the interception return and suddenly the home crowd is starting to come alive. It's still seven nothing. When Midway through fourth Atlanta drives to inside the forty niner one yard line in the Georgia Dome is now electric on the sideline? MC Hammer wearing fresh new kicks and pants can barely contain his excitement MC hammer in his latest music video Ludik Dion Sanders and Jerry. Glanville I at ten percent Francisco but then in the final minute of forty nine touchdown makes it. Fourteen ten niners just nine seconds remain. The air has gone out of the stadium. Heads hang on the Falcon sideline. Mc Hammer has fallen quiet. The Falcons have the ball just past midfield. They'll need a hail Mary to win it. The question on everyone's mind. How are the Falcons? Truly too legit to quit. The answer comes when Falcons quarterback Billy Joe Oliver Chuck's one high toward the end zone. The falcons down there. The falcons celebrate as if they just won the Super Bowl the head coach Glanville hugs. Mc Hammer who's pumping his fist. Jerry and the niners look on stunned for the first time since eighty celebrates with Atlanta when the regular season ends the Falcons niners both both finished ten and six but the Falcons win the tiebreaker and qualify for the playoffs over San Francisco. Atlanta isn't done. The Falcons win. They're wild card game. Before falling in the divisional round but a postseason trip is a huge step forward for dion who is also named to his first pro bowl the first east of what looks like many. It's late December. The day after the season sitting at his locker at the forty niners practice facility in Santa Clara. Jerry is overcome or come by a weird empty feeling for the first time in his career. He is in the postseason for many players. This would only be a mild disappoint a setback. Too quickly shrug off for Jerry. Who always holds himself to an almost impossible standard? It's a catastrophe that motivates him. MM to work even harder as the rest of the League. Settles into the off season. It's now almost midnight. Night on December tenth nineteen ninety-three inside and Atlanta Hotel Room Sherry. Rice can't sleep tomorrow. The forty niners are playing the falcons. This and he can't get his mind off the cornerback. He knows he'll see right in front of his face mask all game long Dion Sanders setting aside all the prime time antics. The Limos the entourage Jerry knows how great of a player Dion has become. Jerry's still remembers nineteen ninety-one one two seasons ago when the Falcon Sweat Jerry's Niners Dion had outperformed Jerry and kept him out of the playoffs. Sure the forty niners had the better year or a ninety two. They went a league best fourteen in two before falling to the young arrogant and super talented cowboys. Twenty to ten in the NFC title game at candlestick but that season. Jerry didn't get his shot at revenge at Dion. You see last October Dion. Didn't join the Falcons on their annual trip up to San Francisco as if all pro football ability wasn't enough. He's still giving Major League baseball ago after a couple of years in the Yankees Organization Innovation Dion signed with the local Atlanta Braves. Initially with the promise to shut down his baseball season when football started which was then revised playing both at the same time. So during last year's Falcons visit to California Dion was busy playing in the world series hitting four seventy seventy with two doubles and five stolen bases. Here Jerry was busy gearing up for battle with his teammates and dion was leaving his teammates. Behind Take Limos private jets to baseball stadiums to Jerry. That's just not right. Rice was disappointed last fall. All he wanted his revenge without de on on the field. Jerry and the niners passing attack had free rein rice pulled in a hundred and eighty three yards and two touchdowns including one that went for eighty yards the niners vaporized Atlanta fifty. Six seventeen dion had been in uniform for the rematch last November and right there on Monday night football. The niners dismantled the Falcons again. This time forty one two three but in that game dion made life hard for Jerry who only caught four passes for forty five yards this year. Is Jerry's chance for revenge in his hotel room. A few months later in Nineteen ninety-three Jerry now visualizes lining up against dion most defensive backs. He knows he can beat on one. Move Jerry Studies all the cornerbacks her back tendencies and catalogs them in his head. He knows how to beat them. Dion though is an extraordinary case. He's so fast that it requires extra effort effort a double or triple move just to get by. Jerry stays up all night thinking about it. Little does rice now on this night and on every other evening. Before the two of ever gone head-to-head Dion lays awake as well knowing he has to face Jerry Rice all week Diaz been watching game film. Jerry running routes He's been practicing the footwork he'll need to defend Jerry's moves and tonight he's obsessively replaying in his mind the moment four years ago when Jerry toasted did him man to man for an easy touchdown late the next afternoon at the Georgia Dome. More than sixty. Four Thousand Falcons Falcons fans are going on. Today's game will have a major effect on each team's chances. Moving forward for the forty niners a victory here would improve their record to ten and three that would put them two and a half games ahead of Dallas for Homefield advantage throughout the playoffs last year. The forty niners couldn't beat the cowboys had home in candlestick so winning in Dallas would be that much harder. For Dionne in the Falcons after starting the season Owen Five. They've have now won five of seven if they can beat the forty niners. They'll have at least a shot at the playoffs on the first play from scrimmage dion is covering Jerry man to man. Jerry looks at young WHO's barking out signals out of the corner of his eye. Jerry sees a black glove extend toward him. This is odd Jerry thinks until it registers dion is offering jerry. A handshake rice is floor. He thinks this guy serious does dion on actually expect me to shake his hand right here right now. Who is he trying to get in my head? 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His best is to get Jerry Rice's head the niners first drive of the game goes deep into Falcon territory on the right side. Jerry is being covered one on one by Dion but with plenty plenty of cushion. Jerry knows Steve Young can put the ball in the right spot. This one's ending in the end zone young goes back to throw around the ten yard. Line Jerry cuts to the middle and gains inside position. Dion tells himself just back-off Bait young len think Jerry's open young sees Jerry free three and launches the ball. Jerry sees the spiral coming at him. He can now practically smell the touchdown Jerry starts to get a hand on it but at the last pass Moment Dion Beats Jerry to the ball picks it off. Primetime is immediately tackled. Then spikes the ball in celebration when the niners. There's get the ball back. Jerry is looking for payback inside. The forty nine or twenty young fines is number one target heading across the middle with dion closely trailing rice. Catch the ball moving left and then quickly pivots and spins back right completely. Faking out dion on another play Jerry shakes dion one on one and catches an easy toss from young for a nice game. Jerry's on a roll now. Dion meanwhile is steaming. He's got to pay. He thinks rice can't interest. Be running around gaining easy yards with no consequences. I've got to send a message. Once again jerry catches a short pass from young with Atlanta playing in a soft zone own Jerry spins and fakes out a defender then heads upfield and POW. He gets hit hard. Jerry looks up and looming above him. Is Dion on his bell. Still Ringing Jerry shakes it off and thanks okay. Now it's on. This dude is one hundred and sixty five pounds if he wears all his stupid jewelry around his neck. He's not getting another. Look like that ever on me. It's the second half and the niners leads seventeen. Seven Jerry is still matched up against dion rice then explodes off the line but dion is right with Jerry every step of the way sanders. This is nothing speed on speed off the top Alice. Chicken into high gear. Jerry wanted White Line of scrimmage ball to the could not have been thrown better young touchdown run gives the niners commanding twenty four to seven lead heading into the fourth. But to Rice's horror the niners crumble after multiple turnovers on special teams and several Atlanta Atlanta scores including rising touchdown. The Falcons now lead twenty seven twenty four. Just twenty eight seconds. Remain the niners. Have the final shot. Jerry knows the ball is coming his way. The Problem Sodas everyone in the stadium especially beyond young then throws a pass the sideline to Jerry. Dion sees it the whole time jumps in front and intercepts it. He thumps his chest and celebration as the Isis. The game for the Falcons. Jerry is disgusted and now there's no doubt who can claim the edge in this matchup. Even sportscenter makes a ruling twenty seven twenty four. The Falcons win at really was dion over rice. Jerry had six catches one hundred five yards sanders picked off a pair of passes edge to the neon man had its February. Sixth Nineteen ninety-four Honolulu Hawaii Jerry. Jerry Rice is surrounded by gorgeous beaches palm trees crystal blue water. It's the type of setting people work all year to enjoy peace and quiet but the the inside of Jerry's mind is no heavenly paradise. It's more like a Kramden malfunctioning. New York City subway car for the eighth straight year. He's here for the NFL NFL pro bowl. Most players. See this as a vacation but not Jerry. nope he's here to work. It's been two agonizing weeks since the forty niners were eliminated again by the cocky trash-talking cowboys. This time. The forty niners were beat down in front of sixty five thousand thousand rowdy cowboy fans thirty eight to twenty one and worst of all yet again. The niners had no one to slow down the tall physical Keflavik wideouts of the cowboys. Who went on to win their second straight Super Bowl so here in Hawaii Jerry's already obsessing over next season? He's thirty thirty one still in his prime. But Jerry knows the cowboys aren't going anywhere and could spoil the back half of his hall of fame career if he can't find a way to beat them mm-hmm as sap the cowboys. Stars quarterback Troy Aikman League. MVP Emmett Smith and unstoppable receiver. Michael Irvin are all in their twenties in the heart of if they're primes even more their crafty owner. Jerry Jones is always angling and conniving to make new moves to improve the team the niners meanwhile aren't getting any younger anger. If something big doesn't change Jerry knows the niners slide toward a relevance will only speed up. Jerry's blood is also boiling oiling. About a magazine article he recently read it ranked him Jerry Rice as the NFL's third-best receiver behind Shannon Sharpe and Michael Irvin third third. Best Rice. Thanks are you kidding. Making matters worse both guys are here laughing it up around the pool with the League's other stars. Jerry is sulking when he spots a relaxed and happy looking Irvine. Jerry calmly approaches him and says hey I want you to know I'm already training for next year. Ervine Ervin just chuckles. He's hardly one to worry about work when there's a party to enjoy this just makes rice even more upset a couple of months later. Diane is wearing a green suit decorated with dollar signs and riding on a bus packed with beautiful women. Who are his backup? Dancers is on tour promoting his upcoming rap album titled what Else Primetime with Major League Baseball on strike. Dion has plenty of free time. Some might say say too much free time. And he's trying to make the most of it dion off the field opportunities have been skyrocketing lately unlike Jerry Dion has a wide variety of endorsements like the two million dollar deal. He just signed to be a spokesperson for Sega's video games after his tour Dion faces a decision Asia for the first time in his career. He's an unrestricted free agent. He can pretty much go anywhere he wants in the League. The reason he's happy to look around is after some late season hoped the falcons once again slips then lost their final three games. They finished sixth and ten the same record. They finished swift in nineteen ninety-two Glanville was fired. Soon after for a while now dion had a voice in his head telling him you're going nowhere with the Falcons and you need a bigger brighter spotlight for all his superb. Play Dion Teams Beside that one playoff appearance ninety one have been losers and losing isn't good for legacies or hall of fame prospects so dion joined by MC Hammer embarks on another tour to find a new NFL home. He flies all over the place including to Miami New Orleans and Kansas City. Walking through some airport. At this point it's all a blur dion cell cell phone rings. It's Nike asking where he'll be playing next year. He tells them man. I'm going to Miami Dion then calls star Miami quarterback Dan Marino he says. Hey Dan it's me primetime telling you I'm all in Miami. Tell those guys I really WanNa play down there. Let's make it happen. Moreno tells him love to have you here. Prime I'll see what I can do more than anything. Dion knows that head coach. Don Shula's dolphins are a winning franchise. Plus Dion would be close to home and he could fish. A lot of favorite hobby of his Marino agrees to restructure his dolphins contract to fit dion under the league salary cap but when Dion. Here's Miami's offer. It's still way too. Low Dion offended New Orleans then offers dion four years seventeen million dollar deal his best offer yet it would make him the second highest paid defensive player in Football Dion decides to keep his options open. He travels to Kansas City. But veep gets the feeling that some of the chiefs players don't really want them there meanwhile the NFL's preseason ends and Dionne remains unsigned. It's now September fifth candlestick park for the forty niners regular season opener on Monday night. Football Jerry Rice takes the field two touchdowns Shyam Jim Brown's all-time record for good measure. You catch US three walk. Well what do you think that is a good Jimmy Brown it but Jerry right but Jerry still isn't satisfied with anything short of winning it all. He needs to be not just the best player but the best player on the best team again. It's why he worked like crazy all off season long and reported to training camp early like always in week to the niners travel to Kansas City. The chiefs chiefs quarterback is none other than Joe Montana who left San Francisco after the nineteen ninety-two season. He's now thirty eight years old and in his final. NFL All season. Jerry was devastated when Montana left it was as though the franchise had given up on Moses Montana throws two touchdowns as the chiefs win win even worse. Richard Dent. The forty niners top pass. rusher goes down with an injury just two weeks in Jerry's goal of a super bowl already starting to look look bleak meanwhile dion sanders remains unsigned. But that wouldn't last long and the unfolding news surrounding fate would soon grip Jerry. The niners in the entire. NFL in the next episode Dion makes his big free agency decision. 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"Yeah it's a Saturday night in the fall of Nineteen eighty-four in Houston Houston Texas Forty niners head coach. Bill Walsh is sitting in his hotel room and he's bored tomorrow. The coach will lead his first place. Team against the the lowly winless oilers. He's not exactly sweating. The Matchup Walsh turned on the TV he yawns flips through a few channels calls. The local Weatherman is saying to expect heavy rain. Storms tomorrow but the forty niners are playing inside the astrodome. So that isn't such a big deal. Walsh tries another channel now. This one's more up his alley. The News showing highlights of a local college football game Mississippi Valley State against Texas. It's a southern and it's raining touchdowns on one play a lean receiver skies for a catch in the endzone gets demolished. Mid Air is spun around like a propeller and somehow holds on Walsh's is get bigger he inches closer to the screen on another play. The same receiver easily beats is man pulls down a pass while streaking down the field and comfortably jogs into the end zone with long beautiful strides. Walsh can't take. His eyes is off the tiny school star. Who really shouldn't be anywhere near his big time? Radar the footage is grainy. But it's jumping off the screen and Walsh who's nicknamed. The genius knows a special talent. When he sees one Walston picks up the phone and calls the forty niners niners director of football operations whose staying down the hall moments later he enters Walsh's room? Walsh still looks shell shot. He says this. I just watched clips of a kid. You need to see the ops Guy Asks Him who is he whilst tells them Cherry Rice by. Now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service that includes includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries in the entire tire streaming landscape. And it's all ad free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven. WARF's to modern blockbusters like Captain Marvel will an avengers endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries like National Geographic's free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the Simpsons and host of originals like the Mandal Laurean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical. The musical the series of very meditate on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become one of the most talked about streaming services twenty nineteen. So don't miss out. Sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today from wondering. I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports wars in our first episode. We looked at how the upbringing of Jerry Rice and Dion Sanders Sanders helped to shape their football origins. And how they're shared hunger led to dominating everyone else on their fields. Now the two of them can fully focus yes on their respective football gifts for Jerry. It's nonstop training and dedication to the craft of playing wide receiver and for Dion. It's showing off his natural actual ability on the field and growing his own. Spotlight off it. This is episode to world versus Primetime. Back it's April. Thirtieth nineteen eighty five in Jackson Mississippi. Jerry Rice is that his brother. Tom's apartment watching the NFL draft on ESPN. Jerry is it's pretty nervous. He knows teams are questioning his speed after clocking a four seven one forty yard dash at the NFL draft scouting combine an event that puts prospects spects through the paces for an NFL. Receiver hoping to make his mark. That time is borderline crawling. He's heard some experts talk about him as a potential first round pick. He's also heard predictions that he could slide to the second round or worse. That's why he's not having a huge party for friends and family family like other draft picks instead. He's sitting anxiously on a bright yellow couch with his brother and his brother's wife. Jerry thinks about his parents right now. His mum is cleaning someone else's house and his father like usual is out in the heat laying bricks. Jerry knows what this moment could mean for them. What it could mean mean for Tom? whose own dreams of making the NFL fell short? Now it's on Jerry shoulders to make it out of Mississippi and lift his family out of poverty across the country at the forty niners draft headquarters in California Bill. Walsh sits down in the team's draft war room at a long table with the front office brain. Trust Walsh's forty niner squad. The year before led by all pro quarterback Joe Montana went fifteen and won and won the super bowl in a blowout. The one thousand nine hundred forty niners have now come to be known as one of the greatest teams ever assembled but Walsh is always thinking about next year the future. It's now been six months since he saw the blurry highlights of that unguardable small school receiver in that Houston Hotel Room since then. His Scouts have repeatedly told Walsh Walsh wiped. His Gut is wrong about Jerry Rice. How Jerry is too slow for the NFL that he played against? Nobody's every week but whilst trust his ability to evaluate wait prospects. Six years ago he fell in love with a supposedly noodle armed. QB with the eighty second overall. Pick the man with that noodle arm Joe Montana Montana and now for weeks Walsh has been studying jerry on tape watching how easily he gets open. How gracefully he runs with the ball? After the catch in watching Rice's film Walsh's conviction has only grown stronger. Jerry might not be fast on a track but his football speed or speed while changing indirection and running routes is blazing. Walsh is also the mastermind of what's come to be known as the West Coast offense. It's a system based on short short quick passes to multiple pass catching weapons to eventually set up longer. Plays Walsh believes Jerry is a perfect fit. The head coach has actually already. We've been adding to his playbook with Jerry in mind but there's one big problem the niners have the last pick in the first round number twenty eight overall rumors are now swirling that the Dallas cowboys also love. And we'll grab jerry at number seventeen Jerry's brother's house in Mississippi Jerry's heart is is jumping out of his chest as the draft enters. The middle of the first round to wide receivers have already been taken Altoona at number ten by the jets and Eddie Brown down to the Bengals at number thirteen then. Tom Rice's red landline phone rings. It's the forty niners. Walsh has pulled off a trade with the Patriots creates owners of the sixteenth pick. The niners are trading up to bring Jerry Rice to San Francisco San Francisco Forty niners select sixteenth picking the first round wide receiver. Jerry Rice SIPPY VALLEY JERRY LEAPS UP. He yells yells. I got drafted. Jerry is heading to the Super Bowl Champs. It's the day after the draft and Jerry. Sorry is terrified. He's sitting on a plane clutching a one way ticket to San Francisco. Jerry has never been to such a huge city before worse. He's never never been on an airplane. Before as the plane speeds down the runway and liftoff Jerry suddenly feels a wave of nausea as the plane plane levels off and heads West across America though. Jerry's fear of flying and stomach ache is replaced by doubt. He wonders to himself. Am I actually it could enough for the NFL. He can't imagine returning home with his tail between his legs and laying bricks again. He can't imagine letting his family down leading down Crawford Mississippi it's July nineteen eighty five in the foothills of California's Sierra Nevada Mountains Jerry. Rice walks onto to the practice field for his first day of forty niners training camp. The first thing that catches his attention stops him in his tracks. is how perfectly green and manicured the grasses. And then he spots Joe Montana an all pro defensive back Ronnie Lott to forty nine legends. These guys he's seen on. The pages of sports illustrated his helmet and his right hand. Jerry jogs onto the field. His new teammates nod their heads in his direction. They seem welcoming Jerry thinks but as the new guy he also senses that he'll need to gain their respect. He'll do that on the field. He tells himself even if they chuckle at his country Twang or his haircut are cut which is tall and thin and pretty dorky. They actually nicknamed him. Burt as in Sesame Street Bert weeks later during a preseason game in la a against the Rams Jerry feels more sure of himself during camp. He was getting open against veteran defensive backs including lot and he seems to be quickly developing chemistry hemisphere with Montana before one plate Jerry glances over at the head coach. Bill Walsh standing on the sideline. Rice is very serious about justifying. Walsh's faith in him then on a deep post route. Jerry is wide open but drops the pass. He's embarrassed but tries to shake it off onto the next later in the game game though the same thing happens another drop then another it's uncharacteristic. Jerry's always been so sure handed and now as the regular season opens up. The problem doesn't go away in Rice's first eight regular season games. He drops eight passes a ton for the supposing the next big thing fans and reporters rush to call Jerry a bust booing him calling him butter fingers coming from such a small school school. Of course he's GonNa melt under the pressure of the big time now. Jerry is even starting to get sideways glances from Montana during one of those games James Halftime after a first half featuring a drop jerry sobs in the locker room that night Jerry speaks with his girlfriend. Jackie who's in Mississippi. He tells her that he's lonely that he already feels like a failure. Jerry wants so bad to prove people wrong that he's now trying too hard he's still not Foley comfortable with Walsh's offense and now his overthinking is costing him and the team it's nighttime in early December nineteen eighty five at candlestick park in San Francisco. The eight and five are hosting the first place nine and four rams on Monday Sunday night. Football before kick-off ABC analyst Oj. Simpson previews the key players in the matchup rams running back Eric Dickerson. The forty niners Montana China and running back Roger Craig one player. OJ Doesn't even mention Jerry. Rice Montana though isn't about to give up on the rookie. When when Jerry enters the game early and gets open Montana gives him another chance canary right to right now to the twenty eight yard line? I Down Forty niners Jerry on a deep blue Montana with a strong bro. Shortly after Montana throws it in Jerry's direction again in the Jerry Burke down by Jerry's confidence is growing Montana's has confidence in Jerry is growing and Jerry's not done after a few more catches he's stopped thinking he's just reacting siebel catch ball then in the third quarter rice runs a deep route data six yard touchdown there arise the number one draft pick valley state who have difficulties football early. Tackler here tonight. It's a breakout performance. Jerry Hall's ten passes for two hundred forty one yards just in this game alone a franchise record. It's the fall of nineteen eighty six and Tallahassee Florida on a street lined with colorful trees a black convertible with the license plate that that reads Primetime zooms by behind the wheel. College Sophomore Dion Sanders is wearing an expensive suit and thick gold chains. His hat is cocked. Talk to the side and he's talking on an enormous cell phone dion smiles. He has an idea back in his dorm room. He writes in a little black book on the the best thing since peanut butter and Jelly water covers two-thirds of the earth. I cover the rest. You throw my way next thing you'll hear. Is the band playing in the bathroom through mirror. Dion rehearses the lines until they're memorized primetime. The alter ego he recently invented is already a hit and a recent Florida. The State Football Fan Day event dion sat behind a table with the sign. Primetime and a huge crowd gathered. A crowd also gathered next to him by coach coach. Bobby Bowden's table to meet the coach. And till Dion realize they were all there to see prime time to on the field demons kneepads and sweatband have prime-time printed on them. His trash talking is prolific playing at Michigan State that season against all American wide receiver. Andre Horizon Dion yaps. Across the line of scrimmage. I watched you on tape and thought you were great. The film must've lied. In the second half they get into a shoving match then start punching shing each other in the helmet futile as that sounds after the game during which Reisen caught just one pass and a thirty one two three loss to Florida state. Primetime I am tells. The media fees the best in the big ten much when reporters asked about his trash talking dion. Says I'm like Oprah Winfrey out there. I'm talking the whole show but he backs it up in his junior year. Dion is voted a consensus all American and Florida state finishes number two in the country. It's a Sunday afternoon in November of Nineteen eighty-seven at Tampa Stadium in Florida. The seven to forty niners are on the road for a game. Mm against the buccaneers in the middle of Jerry Rice's third NFL season. It's been nearly two years since Jerry's coming out party against the rams on Monday night football since then. The man wearing number eighty has been nothing short of incredible. Despite the early drops Jerry finished his rookie season with nearly a thousand yards receiving even the next season in nineteen eighty six. He became unguardable man to man. He was voted first team all pro and had an NFL best. One thousand five hundred in seventy yards receiving and fifteen fifteen touchdown catches and this season. He's been catching balls in the end zone at a historic rate through through six games. He's already pulled them eight touchdowns on this Sunday back in Crawford Mississippi. Jerry's parents decide to leave church early in the new house. Jerry Jerry who built for them they gather around the TV to watch their transcendent bricklayer-turned NFL star Sun. And Jerry doesn't disappoint he catches. which is three touchdown passes against the bucks as the niners comfortably win? Twenty four to ten. It's now a Saturday night. In December about a month later in the forty nine or film room coaches are showing highlights of the team's Monday night game against the bears. The niners took it forty one nothing in a match up of ten and two teams and the mood. What is upbeat Jerry? Another three touchdowns that's now eighteen on the season tying in NFL record. After one of those touchdowns. Jerry decided sided to do the cabbage patch dance. It's become a bit of a trend for players around the league to create signature end zone celebrations after scoring touchdowns Jerry wanting running to fit in came up with one of his own but now as he watches himself dance and make a fool out of himself on film. Jerry is horrified. He's he's embarrassed served. His teammates around him are laughing. And it's all in good fun but this isn't me Jerry thinks I'm better than this more professional. Shnell he vows that and they're all never show boat like this again. It's not my thing it's September Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-eight Gate Clemson South Carolina. It's a gray Saturday afternoon inside memorial stadium also known as Death Valley most of the eighty five thousand five hundred. Seventy six fans are cheering on their CLEMSON. Tigers ranked third in the nation as the visiting seminoles. Take the field. The clemson fans rain down booze and they're directed directed at one player in particular wearing a Florida state uniform. That player is prime time Dion Sanders into the game as the Tigers lineup for upon dion stays on the field and jogs back to his own thirty yard line. Ready to receive. Dion raises both hands to the crowd and shouts to the clemson sideline. And this was going all the way back. Clemson Punter Chris Gar Dokki unleashes the punt now from Dion vantage point. He sees a canyon of Orange Orange shirts. Stretching up to the heavens an ordinary player would have butterflies right about now but not primetime he lives for this what he actually hates or games against lesser opponents week or mediocre receivers. Those Games bore him and he doesn't always play his best. He needs a big stage to really get his juices flowing and this one definitely qualifies. Now it'll be Dion Sanders twenty four. Aw in the middle whis is way. No it's just the it's going to be a touchdown Dion Sanders in reply seven as teammates mob dion in the end zone. He shouts to the clemson crowd. How you like me now? The seminoles win twenty four. Twenty one dion touchdown return is a difference maker. It's four days later back. In Tallahassee Dion drives from his Condo to practice the seminoles are preparing for Saturday's game against Michigan State. The spartans best player is senior wide. Receiver Andre Reisen a likely first-round pick pick like dion as you may remember last year in East Lansing Dion and Andre got into a war of words and fists. Reporters asked for Dion. Sounds reaction to rise in calling him overrated. Dion tells them that he doesn't like people saying that he's not an all American when he's made every all America team including including Betty Crocker's a reporter asks what Dion thinks of rises other comments that last season he beat the on five or six times one on one but just never got the ball L. and that Florida state double teamed Reisen Dion Response with. He said he beat me five or six times. How come you only one pass for eleven yards? We don't double cover anybody if I needed to cover jerry rice one on one whether your reaction is. We'll do excellent or I caramba. This is definitely some exciting news. The Simpsons are now a part of Disney's brand new streaming Dreaming Service Disney plus. 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It's the night before Florida State's sugar bowl. Matchup Against Auburn and Dion is lounging in his hotel room. He leads the nation in and punt return yardage and is on his way to winning the Jim Thorpe award given to the nation's best defensive back since Dion told the world that he could take Jerry Rice one on one his antics his self promotion have only gotten crazier after getting pulled over recently for speeding and his convertible dion told. The COP. Don't story I WANNA have Perry Mason come to court with me and fight the ticket in their final regular season game against rival Florida which the seminoles easily took fifty two to seventeen gene. Dion arrived at the stadium in a stretch limo. He emerged wearing a Tuxedo and a flamenco dancers hat. He's also been talking more and more about out his NFL money referring to himself more frequently in the third person he insists that reporters call him prime time in their articles. Not Diop now. Some of his favorite sayings include. It doesn't matter if you win or lose it's how you pay the game and I've got the lottery ticket. Just wait MMA cash it in and Florida state's been good to me but I'm ready to get paid for playing. I'm looking forward to going out in style. It's the next night January. Second at the superdome in New Orleans twelve seconds remain in the sugarbowl Florida state. Leads thirteen seven over seventh-ranked Auburn. Who has the ball at the seminal twenty two third and Tan Dan who had twenty two the timing sanders all the way over by the Auburn? It when better for Dion Sanders to put an exclamation point on a big win than in. TV's prime time. It's early Sunday morning. January twenty first nineteen eighty-nine Four. AM early the Hilton in Miami Jerry. Rice is is wide awake pacing in his hotel room in just a few hours at Joe Robbie Stadium The niners will meet the Bengals in Super Bowl twenty three Jerry's first time on the biggest get stage in American sports up until this point in his career. Jerry's largely had individual success in one thousand nine hundred seven a strike shortened season season. He finished the year with an all time. NFL record twenty two touchdown catches in just the twelve games during which he played his first three. The seasons in the League are now widely considered to be the best of any young. NFL receivers. I three ever but his team had failed to win a super pro bowl so jerry rice four years ago joined the defending Super Bowl Champs but is still yet to get a ring of his own this season so the nineteen eighty eight season. The niners started just six and five but caught fire the rest of the way so now back in his Pre Dawn Hotel Room Jerry is visualizing leising himself on the Super Bowl field running around getting open catching the ball racing into the end zone in just over twelve hours. It will be the biggest moment of Cherry Jerry Rice's career later that afternoon four hundred miles northwest in Tallahassee Dion Sanders sits in front of his TV watching Super Super Bowl. Twenty-three no hint of doubt enters Diaz. Mind he's positive. He'll be there one day playing in the Super Bowl and standing on the champions platform hoisting being the trophy. It's not a question of if just when the niners trail Cincinnati Thirteen six entering the fourth then Joe Montana and Jerry rice takeover jerry catches perfectly thrown ball over his left shoulder. For a fourteen yard. Touchdown pass on the final drive with the niners now. Down by three dion sitting at home sees Jerry. Make a pair of incredible grabs to keep the game alive for San Francisco. The forty niners win it soon after her and Jerry with a super bowl record two hundred and fifteen yards receiving is named. MVP Dion knows that prime time performs best best when the lights are brightest. He knows there's no better wide receiver in the world. Jerry Rice facing Jerry would be the ultimate challenge the Mount Everest of receivers achievers. It's the Super Bowl postgame during the award ceremony. Jerry's parents and siblings who drove to Miami from Mississippi to see their Jerry under the big lights it's appear with him asked about his performance in front of the world. Rice says I did okay. His Father Joe is asked Jerry will ever return to bricklaying Joe Calmly. Says he's doing what God intended him to do. It's April twenty third nineteen eighty-nine inside New York's Marriott Marquis Hotel in Times Square. Dion is dressed in a white and black sweatsuit. He's wearing gold rim sunglasses with a huge ring on each hand. One says prime the other time. Oh an heavy gold chains including dollar sign necklace. He flashes a million dollar grim. Dion expects to be a top pick especially after running blistering four to seven in the forty yard dash at the combine two months earlier it was nearly half a second faster than Jerry. Rice's time five years ago. He's has made it clear that he wants to play in Atlanta telling his agent. I don't want other teams drafting especially Detroit if they draft number three well. We'll have to demand an insane. The amount of money Dion Listens Dallas chooses. UCLA quarterback Troy Aikman first overall. Tony Mandarich goes second to the packers. Then Detroit's up nervous dread falls over Dion. His Smile Fades Lucky for dion the lions draft another Sanders Star Oklahoma state running back Barry Sanders Sanders. Kansas City then selects Alabama Star Derrick. Thomas with number four dion is again relieved. Now the Falcons are up the commissioner walks to the podium first round choice Dion Sanders quarterback order sake. Dion big smile returns a reporter asks beyond how much money honey he expects. The Falcons will pay him. Dion answer's going to be a lot of zeroes in that contract. It's September tenth. Nineteen eighty-nine Sunday afternoon at Fulton Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta Dion. Sanders is suited. Up and wearing a White Falcons Jersey. It's his first NFL game. It's been five months since the draft and after after lengthy negotiations. The Falcons agreed to pay Dion. Four point four million dollars over five years the most ever for a defensive back part of leverage is the fact that a little over a year ago the New York Yankees drafted him to play baseball after he showed huge potential playing the sport at Florida State. Now he's he's been playing for a Yankee Minor League team all season long even getting called up to the bigs during the summer the two sides though eventually come to an agreement and dion ditches pinstripes for shoulder pads and after getting his first paycheck Deanne lives up to his childhood promise. He buys his mother a house. In North Fort Myers on the a wealthy side of the bridge a mansion with palm trees out front when Dion tells her about the house she sobs and quits her job. It's now the first quarter her debut in the NFL. His Falcons force upon dion goes back for the return fittingly on a converted baseball infield portion of the field. And there's a buzz in stadium. One tiny seem he thinks this is going to the house. They on drift to the lamb takes on thirty. Pick it up one man never man listening going twenty five bucks in its dealings first official touch in the NFL. A sixty eight yard touchdown return breaking tackles weaving in and out of the coverage team and outrunning everybody to the end zone. It's early in the afternoon on Sunday. November Twelfth Nineteen eighty-nine at a jam-packed jam-packed candlestick park in San Francisco in just a few minutes. The forty niners will kick off the week. Ten game today feels a little different to jerry rice. There's an energy in the crowd that's unusual for a game against an opponent whose record is just three and six. The reason for the Energy Falcons. Rookie cornerback cornerback. deion Sanders Dionne wearing his white number. Twenty one uniform and chomping on gum stretches on the stadium grass the fans media the The CBS cameras. They're watching prime-time every move. In the days leading up to the game the media has been hyping this first ever showdown between Rice and Sanders Anders. This will be fun. Read a major newspaper headline of the upcoming Jerry Dion matchup the San Francisco Chronicle wrote that the forty niners special missile teams coach quote probably never had so many nightmares and quote preparing for Dion. Everybody knows that every time dion touches the ball his potential touchdown other newspapers have even reported how. NFL Punters are so worried about dion that they're kicking mechanics are getting screwed up. Prime time is is in everyone's head. Deans also on the current cover of sports illustrated the articles headline they. Don't pay me to be humble. Is a dion quote. Another line from the story is about Dion. Black Mercedes with plates reading just got paid right now. Diaz helmet is off and he. He feels a strong wind from the bay whipping against his face. He smells the salt. Water in the Air Diaz expression doesn't show his typical swagger. His is actually reveal a little bit of concern. The broadcasters are discussing the challenge that Dion faces here today but you know that Joe Montana's going to be looking into to the direction of young Prime Time Dion Sanders success that could mean primetime going into cancellation. It's the forty niners opening drive on the niners. Thirty seven Atlanta's playing zone so players are guarding areas. Not other players Dion at cornerback on the right side Jerry's lined up on the left. The other Atlanta corner owner on the left side is giving Jerry plenty of room. A lot of cushion so Montana throws a quick hitch past Jerry. Jerry quickly dashes around that corner. Who Falls Down Jerry? Splits to more defenders who also fall down then. Jerry loses his own footing after a sizable gain dion. Seeing this all unfold old things while he's much faster than on TV. It's a few plays later from the Atlanta Thirty Nine Montana completes another short pass to Jerry. Aw Jerry breaks to the center of the field makes a defender Miss and fall. He breaks a second tackle and is off to the races. Cutting diagonally across the field right at dion sanders the lone defender between Rice and the end zone but dion has no time to think he just has to stop Jerry from Sporran Jerry without slowing up cut sharply to the outside Dion. Surprised at the redirection gets spun around his back is now turned to jerry. Jones only shot now he realizes is to be Jerry to the corner goal line. So Dion sprints in that direction but a forty niner blocker is now clogging path around around the six yard. Line Dion jukes around the blocker and to the right. Jerry is at the ten and coming at full speed dion. Though has the position and the advantage it appears but jerry accelerates and in a blink the two are even at the five yard line. Dion knows he must at least try to push jerry out of bounds. But Gerry's too quick at the one dion desperately swats his left hand across Jerry's Helmet Yanks Jerry's face masks snapping Jerry's head back to Jerry. It's it's just a minor inconvenience. The best receiver in the game remains on his feet for the touchdown. Oddly there's no penalty. The Ref Rice is if swatted away at a fly is completely unbothered. The thirty eight yard touchdown play is the sixty fifth of Jerry's career as the crowd goes wild. Jerry raises both hands high. Suddenly the crowd boos replays. They're showing illegal and violent. Grab on Jerry's as face masks but Jerry is too busy high fiving teammates to notice the replay a touchdown touchdown the forty niners are now ahead. Twenty eight to three at halftime in in the locker room. Dion is frustrated. He doesn't like this zone nonsense he thinks. Just let me play Jerry man to man. Then it's obvious for everyone to see who the better player is if he beats me then so be it in just ten minutes. Dion will get his chance early in the second. Half Montana leads the niners. Down the field. At the Falcons eleven yard line. Jerry goes into motion to his left. Dion is positioned near the middle of the field when the ball is snapped. Jerry heads up field and Deonte. John's one on one with Jerry Rice breaks right to the end zone on a fade. Patter time show this rookie. How it's done the? He was working on prime time. Close the show von Lesson. What a great receiver does is to you Joe? Montana just lost his feathers. And you see that all we gotta catch that Jerry Rice Dion Sanders. Nice cover as Montana. PATS Jerry on the helmet rice unceremoniously drops the ball and high fives. His teammates TV cameras. Show a stunned and silent dion as the man who calls himself self. Primetime does a walk of shame. Back to his sideline a teammate consoles. Him pats him on the back embarrassed but also befuddled keep played played jerry perfectly and it's still wasn't good enough. It's shortly after the visitors quiet and deflated locker room. The niners just destroyed. Lead the Falcons forty five to three on defense. Not only did Jerry get the better of Dion but on special teams dion did nothing well special and sanders returned three kickoffs for just forty nine total yards reporters. Then ask Dion about the facemask. Grab on Rice. Their tone indicates how the play will be written up in the newspapers. Tomorrow as a cheap shot and attempted beheading a close lining. A report asks. Dion what do you think about being booed they dion says. I don't care those fans have to get up at six tomorrow morning and go to work I get tomorrow off. Maybe I'll go to the Bank and count on my money. Who House one thing? Dion can count on tomorrow morning our headlines like forty niners poll plug on Atlanta's neon Dion. That article will say that the Dion Sanders versus Jerry Rice matchup which quote everyone had been looking forward to turned out to be a quick yet decisive rice. Knockout victory victory in the next episode Dion Sanders and the Falcons improve and Jerry Rice versus primetime rivalry intensifies and when the aging forty niners get overtaken by a young brash team from Texas right as dion becomes a free agent a once improbable union suddenly becomes possible. I hope you enjoyed this episode of Sports Wars. If you did did you can subscribe on Apple. PODCAST spotify Google PODCASTS WONDERING DOT COM. 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"Dear Deion, Thank you for the Double..." Episode #99

Tales from A Butterfly

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"Dear Deion, Thank you for the Double..." Episode #99

"Hey guys. Welcome to tales from a butterfly podcast. I'm your host to reassure Endo Sometimes Caterpillar sometimes uh-huh butterfly but always driving to make it through. Life's many metamorphosis with my faith intact with this podcast. I hope to encourage anyone that is going through life situations no matter what they are they have left. You feeling like you will ever be a caterpillar in the cocooning stage having to continually shed your skin. While fighting to get free from any chains that are holding you back from your transformation. I WanNa tell you keep your faith in the transformer believing that just like the butterfly. Lie when you come out you will be a thing of beauty who is not afraid to fly so come on my butterfly less and you're listening episode ninety nine of the tales from butterfly. podcast titled Dion. Thank you for the double and I'm your host to reassure window so let's get into it. Hey guys thank you so so much for downloading this episode episode ninety nine Dear Dion. Thank you for the double ninety nine. I am one away from one hundred drip one. I am so excited and I just want to take this moment to thank you guys. Thank my listeners. Thank you butterflies whether you're a caterpillar pillar in your cocooning stage or a full blown butterfly and your situation. I just want to thank you for listening to me. WHO's could be all three at any one given day depending upon the situation for those of you that have been with me from the beginning? Thank you thank you for for encouraging me. Thank you for letting me know that this is encouraging you. Thank you for sharing the podcast with your friends. Your families on your social. Media's I wanNA thank you and for those of you that just found me my new listeners. I WanNa thank you. Thank you for taking the time to listen and I hope that with this podcast you see my heart but you hear God now. This episode came about because I was listening to Kevin. Hart's Radio Show straight from the heart on Sirius. Xm The laugh loud channel. One Oh one and they have a sports segment and they were talking about Dion Sanders about his. ESPN thirty for thirty for those of you. Who Don't know what to ESPN thirty for thirty is? It's where they do like. I call it a little documentary about sports player. You know someone who is great you know. During the time they played or what have you and they go a little more in depth about him and as I was listening to Kevin and the Plastic Cup boys talk about this thirty for thirty. Something just moved inside of me. I don't know it just. I felt like I had to watch it. Just hearing them talk about some of it felt like I had to watch it myself so went to. ESPN couldn't find it. Found outlet came out January of two thousand nineteen so it wasn't still on their went to Hulu nope then I went to Amazon prime. I'm a prime member I was like yes the ESPN ESPN THIRTY FOR THIRTY S. About to watch this. They had every season but the one that was on I was like. Are you kidding me but I found it. I went pay four ninety nine and downloaded the ESPN plus APP and watched the Dion Sanders. Double play on that and I can't begin to tell you again just how moved. I was and it just it almost like it shifted my thinking. I watched it five and a half times. I listened to it about two or three times because if I was doing something around the house or like jumping in the shower it couldn't watch. I still played it so I could listen. It was just stirred stirred something in my spirit you know and so I hope that me recapping it and sharing with you how it related to me. How it inspired spiraled me? I hope that it does the same for you. The listener in Nineteen eighty-eight Dion. Sanders was drafted by the New York Yankees Baseball team. In one one thousand nine hundred nine Dion Sanders was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons. Football Team on September Fifth Nineteen Eight. Dion hit his second Major League home run. The next day he played six innings and left the team. He was disappointed to believing the Yankees but he signed this lucrative deal with the Falcons and reported to Atlanta for game. Aim on Sunday even without any time in training camp. Sanders caused a splash by returning a punt. Sixty eight yards for a touchdown against the Los Angeles Rams Dion. Sanders made history that week by becoming the only person to ever hit a home run. In and score a touchdown at baseball and football's highest performance level. He was the only one again he hit a home. Run in and scored a touchdown touchdown at baseball and football's highest levels. All in the same week like I said earlier I watched about three and a five and a half times. Listen to it about two or three times because it was so inspiring to me and while I don't play football or baseball now side note I do love softball. I've loved softball. Since since the beginning of time and Korean I actually played on the Softball League together a couple of years ago and I loved doing something. I love doing things like that with him. I feel like sometimes we should do more like that. Like physical activities like that. I loved playing softball with him. Because of always loved the game. And US putting on our jerseys and you know just go into the game together or what have you. I just loved it now game night come game night when I was in the middle of doing something within a running around and had to stop but I was doing I would be like. Oh why did I sign up for this but once I got there I was ready. 'cause it was exciting and being in the atmosphere atmosphere and I was happy to be there with Corey and to play some just a little note about myself that you may or may not have known so anyway like I said this thirty for thirty was very inspiring to me and while I don't play football or baseball I to know where I wanna be in this life. I've seen where I WANNA be in this life and and watching dion hearing how he got where he got it inspired me Deanza attitude and mentality the assuredness that seemed the just exude from him. This man a man that was talented like so many other baseball football players. Think about it. Think about how how many teams are in the NFL thinking about how many teams are in the MLB. There was so many teams and so many players on the teams that were talented. Talented Dion see Dionne was an only a talented man. He was the only one that was gifted to do what seemed like impossible. And looking at it that way like I said it just stirred up and fired up some things in me and it showed me some things that I learned some lessons sense from watching and listening to Dion Sanders. Thirty for thirty double-play so let me go ahead and talk about it number one you have to. I see it and then say it. I saw this. It started when I was seven. I told my mom I'm I'M GONNA make a lot of money. You're never gonNA have to work another day in your life. This is what the on Sanders told. His mom came across an article on Jesus Culture Dot Dot Com titled the Power Of Vision Written by Chris. Valentine on October eighth two thousand nine. It reads vision. Is What what we see but it is also the way in which we see. Vision is the Lens that interprets the events of our life the way we view people and our concept of God. If you have a scratch on our glasses it may seem like everybody around us has scratches too but the problem actually lies with us because our vision is impaired our minds receive images from is but our heart interprets these images if a heart becomes bitter jealous was hurt or in some way infected. The Lens of our heart is distorted what we perceive is happening and what is really going on could be two completely different things in his sophomore year in college. Dion said an agent handed me some paperwork and I saw how much all of the all of the positions were were paid in the NFL. And I was highly disappointed that my position was one of the least paid dion physically saw with his two is that his physician was the lowest paid position and even though he solid with his two is physically. That didn't line up with what he saw on his heart which was him taking care of his mother making sure that she never had to work another day in her life and instead of him leading with what is is saw he led with what his heart saw. Aw which which helped push him into who. He was to become prime time. Now I want you to think about yourself your life and the space space that you occupy on this on this earth this space and time appointed specifically for you. You're here right now. This space space in time. You were appointed to be here for this time so ask yourself. Are you leading your life with what. Your natural is Z.. Or with what your heart sees. Think about the dream that God gave you. Think about when you first became aware of the dream where you little were you a child where you a teen gene or you in college. Were you young adult. Are you just saying seeing it now. Think about when you first became aware of the dream the the desire inside you to fulfill that dream. Are you still saying that dream through the eyes of your heart. Are you seeing it. Through the eyes of life circumstances through the eyes of doubt through the eyes of age. Feeling like you're old. You're too young through the eyes of not having enough money to do you. What it is that you WanNa do the dream that you wish to fulfil? Are you seeing this dream through the eyes of the people around you who play your dream like it's a hobby because they don't know anyone that's ever woken up from a dream and lived it so they smile when you talk about your dream you share. How excited you are? And meanwhile their eyes are glazing over while they're unbelievable displayed through their body language and they may give you a generic. I know that's right and you're GONNA make it. I'm praying for you you believe. I'm sure you've experienced that now. Don't take that personally. Don't take it to heart again. You have to remember that a lot of those people have never ever seen anybody fulfilling dream so to them. It will always remain a dream and now. I know you've had that happen to you. I know I've had. It happened to me with the PODCAST. Different things so excited sharing with only for them to say. Oh that's cool or Yep I know you can do it and you're like man. They didn't even seem excited or they don't even seem like they believe it can happen. But they don't have to believe and they may not see it but it's is not for them to see yet. God gave it for you to see so. Don't worry about if they don't see it yet and stop looking at your dream and the manifestation of have your dream through their eyes. If you've had a dream that seemed like you were dreaming the impossible dream chances are again. You shared it with someone close to you you maybe mom dad cousin best friend CO worker. What have you someone even in the same field as where your dream is and you? May they have gotten that generic response that I spoke about but I want you to be encouraged by psalms one. Eighteen verse eight. The King James version which reads it is better to trust trust in the Lord then to put your confidence in man so stop looking for people to validate your dream while trying to interpret what you see allow how God to refocus you on a dream that may have been deferred but his most certainly not denied number two after after you have seen it and after you have said US then may have to create it and then set the atmosphere for it. Prime Time I looked up the etymology of the word prime it comes from the Latin word. Primis I in in order. I the first first part figuratively chief. Principle excellent distinguished noble. Today's meaning of the word prime. According to Merriam websters is the earliest stage. The most active thriving or sat satisfying stage or period. The chief or best individual or part I just in time. It was interesting to me that the word time is included in the meaning of the word prime the etymology of the word time time is old English team limited space of time from Proto Germanic Tim. On time abstract sense of the time as an indefinite continuous duration it was recorded from late. Fourteen C Merriam Webster defines time as the measured it or measurable period during which an action process or condition exists or continues the point or period when something occurs and appointed fixed ext customary moment or hour for something to happen begin or end a historical period so when I took those two meanings the etymology of those two words and put it together like Dion. Sanders did primetime. Primetime actually means the first of its kind signed to exist in an appointed measured historical period again. When put together the words? Primetime mean the first of its kind to exist in an appointed measured historical period. A few minutes ago I mentioned that Dion saw with his own eyes paperwork worked showed them how much each position the NFL May and his position was the lowest paid he further went on to say right then and there in that dormitory Tori Room. I created what you know as prime time. He said You love them or you hate them but you had to see him play. When he played baseball he was simply dion? He couldn't be prime time in baseball. He said it didn't call for that. Indians words. He said just dion alone couldn't fulfill the obligation allegation that he promised his mother but prime baby. He's all that and then some understood. There is a difference between prime time and endymion. He knew he had to step out of what was already created into something that he himself had to create in order to fulfill the desire he had to take care of his mother and he was wise enough to know exactly where this was needed where it needed to be created the football field not on the baseball diamond so when he signed the contract and it was with the Yankees he realize man. I made a promise to my mom. I saw it at seven that I was going to take care of my mother but I know this isn't going to do it and he already played bass football so we said what can I create. That will help fulfill what I spoke to my mom. All those years ago what I saw all those years ago so his dorm room after seeing how much his his position would pay he created prime time and notice he didn't go and have a roundtable with friends. Family teammates cousins ends best friend. The person that waited on him in the cafeteria at Florida State University. The girl down at the walgreens that he spoke to he didn't have a conversation with them and say man. This is what I told my mom. I was young and I don't know how I'm going to fulfil this. He didn't have conversation. He created right then and there. He didn't go take opole. A census or give people questionnaires to fill out asking them. If they thought he could do it. He just created aided in that moment he moved when he looked at the salaries of the different. NFL positions. What his is? Naturally we saw didn't match up with what is heart soul and again right then and there in that dorm room. He started creating what he wanted to happen. He didn't and let the fact that no one else had an essence created their own marketing campaign to market themselves. He didn't let that stop him. He didn't let himself get hung up on whatever. What what everyone else was going to say or think about Prime Times he gets? Primetime was flashy dion when he played baseball was the talented and gifted in baseball. He was dion he hit the ball caught. You know made some plays. He was dion. Primetime was flashy Ashi. Everybody had no choice but to notice who primetime was. He was the first so they had no choice. Every time he stepped on that football field he was was then prime time and see. He created primetime before he ever got to display it professionally. So he knew he had to create something to help him eventually so when he was in college he created prime time knowing that he would need to help him get to the big leagues and be able to produce in the big leagues. He didn't wait. He didn't wait till they got to the NFL NFL to create a listen to what I'm saying. He was thinking long term. He didn't wait and so he got to the NFL to create prime time. He created primetime in college before he had the exposure of the NFL. He was thinking so again. He didn't let himself get caught. Caught up on what everybody was gonNA think about prime time because primetime was seen he and he didn't worry about his talent offending others. His gift defending others so often you may have a gift. You may be a singer and someone may say you may be an acquirer and who wants to sing the Solo. When because you love this thing you WanNa sing the Solo? But you're so all concerned about offending someone else or someone being offended by your talent or thinking that your show off that you don't step into the opportunity entity that may have been presented just for you. Dionne didn't worry about his talent offending others. He just focused on what he had to do. Not letting the lack of a blueprint to a follow to get to where he needed to go deter him he just did it and he was going to be the first one to do it. CBS Sports reporter Pat. O'Brien said and there was nobody else named prime time. Nobody else. y'All there was nobody else named prime time. Which means dion again was the first? I now remember earlier in the podcast. I said you have to see it. And then say it Dion Saul it. Dion said it and then he created it and then other saw the manifestation of what. Dan had envisioned long before. Now he seen it he said it he created created but he also had to create an atmosphere for it to be able to survive to live now. When I looked up the word atmosphere the word atmosphere is derived for modern modern? Latin word atmosphere from Greek atmos- meaning vapor or steam. James Four verse. Fourteen new King James version reads whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow for. What is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then it vanishes away. I'm GonNa read that scripture to you again remember you have to create the atmosphere in order for your dream. Rain to be able to survive and thrive the word atmosphere again in the Greek means vapor and steam James Four verse fourteen eighteen new King James version reads whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is Your Life is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes banishes away. Now I want you to think about those choice of words Vapor James Use the word vapor when you think about your life in terms of being a vapor or comparing your life to a vapor something. That's not here long like a steam or miss. You've seen steam and missed how it operates it hovers in its there and surrounds for short while. But then it's gone when you think about your life in those terms you realize that although this life we're living may seem seem like a long time I'm forty two. I feel like I've been here a long time. And depending on what you're going through what situation you're going through. You may be feeling like this is endless. But in actuality were only here for a time like a vapor so in this your appointed time on birth you were appointed for this time. Will you be bold enough to create what God has shown you. Will you be bold enough to display display and walk in your gifts and your talents. Will you fight for the vision. God gave you with what your heart sees. Will you fight for it with everything everything you've got and if you say yes if you answered all those questions and said yes. Are you aware that the words you speak create and set the atmosphere of of the environment that will determine whether or not your dream stay sleep with you or wakes up to manifest. What words are you speaking to create your environment amount? And there's no disclaimer on words. You just can't throw out words. The Bible says a man's going to give an account for every careless list. Were for every word that he's thrown out. You're going to have to give an account for it one day so think about the words you're speaking. Are they creating an environment for your dream to live live. And if you believe if you truly believe that you're positive words will manifest then you've got to believe that there's another side of that the negative words that you speak. They'll manifest to trust me. I've been there. I've been on both ends of the spectrum. I've spoken words towards my future drove my family and things have manifested and I've also done the opposite and been negative and those have manifested too. So what atmosphere or your words creating. I'm ask you again. What atmosphere are your words? Creating for your dream to live are the words you speak giving oxygen to your dreams or have have the words you've been speaking become carbon dioxide poisonous to your atmosphere and killing off your dreams with it Matthew Twelve Verse Thirty Seven and IV The reeds. For by your words you'll be acquitted and by your words. You will be condemned so if you were on trial if somebody said your dream has died and we WANNA know how your dream died. So we're going to put you on trial to see if you killed your dream and the only evidence that they had to present was your words when they put every word that you said and spoken about your dream when they put it on the screen for all the jurors to see would you be found guilty of killing your dream. Would you be equipped with. They have said No. She spoke positive. She always affirmed herself always affirmed her dream. Spoke the word even when she was feeling doubt that it would happen. She may have felt doubt doubt but she spoke faith or would you be convicted because the words you spoke. Would you have been convicted of killing your dream. Because of the words that you spoke with create your atmosphere think about it number three even when you make history in the presence presence of a cloud of witnesses there are some that will still wonder how and why it happened but it won't change the fact that it did happen. The word clouds was was taken from the Greek word. Neef rose however the Greek word Nikos that again translates to the word. Clouds has an additional meaning in ancient classical Greek Times. The word clouds was used to describe the highest seats in the bleachers of a stadium. The seats at the very top of the stadium were called the the clouds because they were so high up in the air. Now if you had gone to a sports competition with a ticket for one of these seats you're usher might have said. Your seat is in the clouds today. This meant you'd be seated in the highest row available in the bleachers Eric powers and Ken Rogers the directors of Dion Sanders. Thirty for thirty double-play said when people think of to sport professional athletes. They always think of Bo Jackson but Dion Sanders is still the only player to hit a home. Run and score four touchdown in the same week. It's just incredible natural ability to be able to switch between sports and to just be at the highest level. It's something that individually is a great achievement. But really when we think about it. Why hasn't this happened since it might be? Because it really shouldn't have happened in the first place. No one else has ever thought to do what I did. And at the same time while Bo Jackson and did play baseball and football. He didn't play them at the same time full on he played baseball fully during the season and he played football when he was available. Deanne Dionne did both at the same time. Four out so when I watch this short film this documentary this thirty for thirty this inspirational channel piece on Mr Dion Sanders for me. It was clear that there were some that. Were still trying to figure out how dion manage to make history. It was like they're. They are sitting in their stadium seats in the clouds. They were the cloud of witnesses. That dion was performing in front of their watching him. They're watching history be made right in front of them while simultaneously rejecting the idea that it was happening because they had never seen it funny that they didn't realize it was happening because dion himself solid all those years ago and there are times when you may be going through life the faith being your only method of transportation because you have nothing else but your faith when you're going and chasing after your dreams and you don't have the support you need. You don't have the money honey you need. You don't have the pedigree you need. You don't have the background or the schooling or the training that you need faith becomes your only method of Transportation Tation on the move to your dream and the more you trust guide as you're moving toward and in your dreams you may have people watching you wondering how are those doors opening for them wondering how you've taken a concept that's been around for years and made it your own and made it successful. What Dion did was was took a concept marketing that was been around before him and create it primetime and made marketing look like a whole new thing? He did that. He created created it because he knew where he wanted to be he took a concept that have been around for years and made it his own and the the people there watching winging wandering almost to the point of being upset by your willingness to not allow your natural. I see and at times what you may feel you not allowing net to stop you from pursuit of your dream. They can't believe that you. How dare you have the audacity to try and do what's never been done before and then they'll try to talk chalk it up to your arrogance? They'll try to say they're just arrogant. They think that they can do all of this. They're just arrogant. I'll never forget years ago. I want my whole family to mind and I asked my family. Do you guys want a mom. I just always felt like I should do it even if it was only once and they all said no okay sign up on my own. Signed up on my own. No joke signed up on my own. And the leader who was leading at that time ended ended up having an emergency and had to leave Maryland for a while to be with a family member and so the mom ministry was no more by the time. NEW LEADER LEADERSHIP CAME IN I. I wasn't able to do it but I always felt like I just needed to so I remember. Excuse me when I first signed up a tech somebody because I was so excited and their words back. We're okay that's great but don't get arrogant if you're able to do it. Don't get arrogant. If you're good at it just just remain humble because remember not everybody can do multiple things now. I'M NOT GONNA LA my flesh was like I know you ain't but I stopped myself self took a deep breath and I'm like okay got I'm not GonNa let this deter me but I was really blown like I'm sharing with. Have you might excitement over something that I'm getting ready to try. And you're telling me don't get arrogant because not everybody is talented to do more more than one thing. I haven't even tried it yet. I believe I believed I could do it but I had never shown anyone and here they were already saying saying. Don't get arrogant because not everybody can do or be good at more than one thing and that showed me something even when you're trying to do you something that you feel like you should do and just excited. There's always gonna be that person or some people that don't want you to do it. That are angry because how dare you try to become fearless and do something that you want to do but our little scared to do. Because if you don't know me what people may not know was it. I'll be. I am very nervous when I do when I do public speaking even sometimes when I do the podcast because I want the content to be good but I've asked Lord not to take that nervousness away before blown to where I'm shaking but leave a little hint of the nervousness because when I feel that I know that it's only God that I'm relying on. I'm not relying on to restraint. I'm relying on God so I actually thank him for the nervousness because it keeps me in check and reminds me not by my strength that I'm able to do this but by God strains so even when people try to chalk up you going after your dreams to your arrogance. Don't fall for it. Just keep going. They did the same thing with Dion this force reporters and even the braves. GM they did it with the end. They said he was arrogant. They said that he was trying to play two sports at one time for his ego that he was feeding his ego not realizing that that he made a commitment to his teammates and the funny thing is he had a contract with the break. The braves called him the comeback. Because they want him to help them get dependent. He had a contract that I think expired June thirtieth Iran out June thirtieth but they still want him to stay so on his were on the strength of a handshake he continued but he actually had a contract after that time with football so his contract was with football but because the the breeze needed him he agreed to stay. Here's the thing the falcons who he had a contract with supported reported him in his quest to do this in his quest to play both sports. His coach said if I had the talent like like him to do both and somebody somebody called and asked me to do both. I would his teammates. They just want it the state of Georgia to win something whether it be the Beta baseball championship or NFL superbowl. They just want to Atlanta to win something. So his falcons teammates the one. He had a contract with. They supported him but the baseball GM's the ones that he didn't even have a contract with that he was still continuing to a play with them at the highest level and still give his hundred and ten percent. They're the ones that were upset that he was trying to keep both of his commitments. But he didn't let that stop. Stop Him and you can't let that stop you either. Even when your body feels like you put too much on it even when you feel like man. I'm working I'm going to school. I'm taking care of these kids kids. I'm trying to start this nonprofit. I'm trying to do all of this. I don't even have time to pursue my dream not feel that way sometimes. I'm driving because I know this has got to be done in this. Got To be done over. The kids need this and this needs to be done and I don't know if I'm going to be able to focus on what I WANNA do. You gotTa keep going even when you feel like you just WanNa sit down and take a break take a break or take a pause. Matter of fact don't take a break take a pause and then hit the play button and keep going even when when those watching you are hoping it won't work out even the ones closest to you because they don't know how to handle it and they're talking about you publicly keep keep going because God will have no choice but to elevate you in front of your enemies and in order for your enemies to be front and center to see it. The more than likely going to be people that are close to you close to the front and the last one number for when you you have big faith God will send big assistance. Dion had walked away from baseball his love but was called by the braves to come up and help the team chase dependent that year in the same year he helped the braves. Make the postseason for the first time in nine years and also helped the Falcons make the playoffs for the first time in nine years it was like dion was just made for this one particular day practice ended at three thirty PM. For the Atlanta Falcons and the Atlanta Atlanta Braves doubleheader started at four fifteen pm. Dion had given his word that he would be there reporters those watching him leave. Asked him Dion Dion. Are you worried about getting there on time. See because watching this play by play. They have the real footage of different things in this in this particular instance they have the footage so again. He's leaving practice at three thirty having to get to and be dressed and be ready to go on the field for the Atlanta braves at four fifteen so reporters are saying Dionne Dionne. Are you worried about getting there on time. And this is where the people that have around around you become really important. The peop- The guy that he had with him wrapped his arm around dion neck. And when they're asking these questions are you worried. Are you worried before dion could even answer his support. That was with him said no no. He's not worried they spoke for for him. They let no we got you inside diem may have been worried. But I'm pretty sure when he heard his support say no no. He's not worried they got it. I'm going to get there there. Dion himself said if you live in Atlanta you know that traffic is crazy down eighty five so you do wonder how is this going to work but then someone one offered him a helicopter to make the game and he made it so just imagine and forty five minutes. He's got to get to the stadium. Get dressed and be on on the field. Because I'm sure the coach has to give the starting lineup to whomever the announcer whomever so he's got to be there and somebody offered a helicopter and and he never ridden in a helicopter before so. He made it on Saturday October tenth. Nineteen Ninety two and eight thirty PM. Dion John was playing with the braves and Pittsburgh and then needed to get to Miami. To play with the Falcons the next day at one pm and then that evening he needed to be back back in Pittsburgh with the braves. He didn't have a cell phone to book a hotel or to make sure that his cleats and all his equipment that was needed was in his hotel room when he left the braves in Pittsburgh and got to Miami and he had to wear specific cleats because Nike represented him so he couldn't just get there and hope that somebody could run out and get him things he had to wear something specific so I'm GonNa say it again remember. He was playing eight thirty pm that night with the braves had to then leave. Get some Miami. To play with the Falcons. The next day and that same night had to return back to Pittsburgh to play with the braves. He didn't have a way to get a flight. He didn't have time. He was playing and there were no cellphones so he called his Nike Brand. Rep told them the situation and they supported him. They said when they first met him he made such an impression and on them so they supported him and his endeavour and and his attempt to do this that not only did they get him cleats and everything that he needed to wear because again Nike represented him his brand Rep. got on a plane flew to Pittsburgh back to be with him and to get him from that game to then fly him to Miami she was still with him then. Fly Back to Pittsburgh Org to play the game. Oh and on. Top of that. Nike covered. Everything Nike covered. The cost Nike covered the cost of the private plane for him. Go from Pittsburgh to Miami and back the hotels and again. They brought the equipment that he needed all because he picked up the phone and he asked and I know there's times when all you have to do is just ask for assistance but you feel like now got it. I can do it or no. I don't want them to think then I'm using them or no I don't want I don't WanNa be a burden. He had no fear in asking Nike. He was just asking for help. Like look I need this equipment. And and they believed in him so much that they got a private plane to make sure he got to where he needed to go and they covered it. He didn't have to come out of pocket. That's amazing to me. I just think that's amazing. Now he got on that plane at midnight after the braves game arrived in the wee hours of the morning slept for a few hours and was dressed to play with the Falcons at one PM. The coat of the Falcons said that he kept him out of the first play because Dion hadn't even practice for them and he told Dion on. Come stand by me. You're not going in yet. Come stand by me. Dion could have freaked out went off. His teammates could have been like how you going to not put. Put Him in when you know we need him and dion could have been like. I'm primetime baby. You're not gonNA put me on the field but he didn't do any of that he humbly took what his coach Said stood beside him and then Dion was put in the game after the game. He was delayed getting back to Pittsburgh that evening for his baseball game. In at eight thirty he was delayed because his body had been put through so much that he needed to Ivy's in order to replenish Glenis. You know the fluids in his body and then after that happened. The private plane was too heavy. The Nike Rep said. She felt like they may have had one person too many on it. So the private plane took dion and his team of people with him to Pittsburgh went back to Miami and got the Nike Rep and then it came back to Pittsburgh. That's fueled that's extra fuel that's money. This is all on Nike's bill because they support him but guess what Dion made with those delays. He made it now. He did say that he's hearing these sportscasters in these. GM's talk about him. Talk about how he's he's arrogant. Talk about basically who in the world is. He think he is that he should be able to do this. And he said when he got on that plane from Miami to go back to Pittsburgh he wanted to tell the pilot eh left. I'm going back to Atlanta. But he said you've got to finish what you started so he made it there and was in the dugout. I believe seventeen minutes after the game started and he didn't play that night. He said he knew he wasn't gonNA play. Because it's coach again was upset and in the thirty for thirty one. Coach's I'm not sure if it was a base coach. What have you? But one of the coaches said that it wasn't him that made the decision. It was the other coat and the other coach said to him. I don't care serve Me and you have to get on. The field will play before dion will but it didn't matter Diaz showed up and was still in uniform. He's still pushed his body beyond physical limits. He said that there was a point where he was in the shower hurting tears running down his face saying why am I doing this. But he made a commitment it to himself to his mother because you know what he promised her and to his team he did end up playing. I believe in the the last two games. If I'm not mistaken as a pinch hitter I think I said this earlier but I'm say this again. Interestingly Enough Dion Sanders is the only only player to have to have appeared in a super bowl and in a world series. This was because of the vision he saw when he was seven years old and his determination to do whatever ever he had to do to fulfill his proclamation that he made to his mom dion sanders and prime time they not only only both were a part of history. Dion and primetime made history listeners. I know you may be thinking that what you may have been called to do. Seems absolutely impossible. You're looking at it and you're like there's no way I'm going to be able to pull this. I don't have the money. I don't have the backing. I don't have the support art. I don't have the knowledge you may be thinking. It's the impossible that what God is showing you he wants you to do has never been done. So you're like how am I gonNa do this. Florida it's never even been done. You may be afraid to move forward because what would people say. What would people say that? I'm trying to do all of this and it's never ever been done and they've never heard of something like that before and I need to be prepared to fail. What would the people say? But I want to encourage you to keep fighting for for your dream. Keep making strides to fulfill your goals and don't get caught up in. How is this going to happen? Like Dion when he had to get from practice when it ended at three thirty to the braves stadium the play four fifteen game and out of the blue. He's offered a helicopter to get there. I just have faith. Don't worry about how is it going to happen. Who is GonNa make it happen? How will I ever get the resources to get where you have to get? Get God because God will send you a helicopter in a different way may not be in the form of actual helicopter. It may be a jet. I know I'm claiming the jet so so when I have to interview Dion Sanders if he hears this and said well you know what I want to sit down and talk to that young lady or ID on you put me on a jet and bring me out to where you are. I'm there I'm just just speaking it putting it in the atmosphere but anyway seriously have that helicopter kind of faith believe that because of your big faith God is going to send assistance. If you continue to work it continued trust. Continue to stay in your word. Continue to pray even when you feel doubt even when it looks like you need to give up and walk away even when Phil's like you need to give up and walk away when you have people around you telling you you need to give this up and walk away and they're looking at you like you're crazy. Keep the faith. Keep the faith that you serve a god who does not fail and keep putting in the work in as if you already are where you WanNa be again remember Dion Created Primetime sometime in college not in the NFL. He created prime time before he was where he ultimately wanted to be. Keep creating keep producing at. I promise you just like with Dion. God will show up in your situation with some big help. Samat that big faith guys thank you so much for hanging out with me and listening to Tales My Butterfly Episode Ninety Nine Dion. Thank you for the double go to either either items blueberries stitcher Google play music. SPOTIFY IHEARTRADIO RADIO DOT COM and any other place podcast can be found and type in tales does T. A. L. E. S. from butterfly. While you're there please subscribe rate and review the podcast. 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"It's Saturday. September third nineteen ninety four or at the marina green a grassy stretch of beach along the San Francisco Bay Forty niners owner Eddy debartolo and President Carmen policy are sitting on stage promoting an exhibit called the NFL experience to get fans pumped up for the season that starts in just two days. Niners fans don't really need a ton of gimmicks to get excited. They already root for a good team but everyone involved knows that the niners probably need a little extra extra juice to make it back to the super bowl suddenly policy notices a buzzing in the crowd near the back. There's a man who's waving eh at him policy. squint to get a better look. The man looks oddly familiar designer sunglasses gold jewellery glimmering bring in the sunshine. No way policy thinks it's undeniable. It's Dion Sanders policy. Then nudges debartolo and whispers hate head. That's Dion Sanders. The owner response. No CAN'T BE EH policy continues. I'm telling you it's M it's Dionne. It's now almost been nine nine months since the niners lost to the cowboys for the second straight year in the NFC championship game in the last couple months dean's agent floated the idea to policy that the the forty niners may want to pursue dion in free agency policy thought the agent was joking Diaz been insisting on a big money long term deal L. during his nationwide free agency tour with MC Hammer by his side. The niners under a salary cap crunch can't offer big money or long-term term deals so the forty niners front office ruled dion out. So what's Dion doing here in San Francisco Debartolo a middle aged guy with thick dark hair. hops off stage. And Wades through the crowd towards dion the to shake hands and slowly walk toward the water's edge looking Out on a spectacular view of Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge. Dion tells debartolo. I really really want to play for the forty niners. Aw Nine days later at the niners practice facility in Santa Clara Jerry. Rice is sitting in his head. Coach's office Coach George Siefert is the Messenger for a wild idea he says so what would you think about Dion Sanders as a 49er their silence is jerry slowly processes. A bit of a shocker. His eyes then widen. He might come here. Jerry thanks. Oh my God Jerry Imagines Dion and a forty Niner Jersey. The thought is beyond weird in pictures. His high stepping dancing acting foolish in the end zone. His first instinct is no no no. He doesn't fit the forty forty nine or way the old school rice can't imagine dion fitting in he thinks Dionne just brings too much flash and attention baggage edge. He's GonNa blow up the forty nine or focus in chemistry as team captain and face of the franchise. Jerry has veto power over the move if he really is against it. Like an ancient Roman emperor the star white out could squash this primetime to San Francisco proposal with just a thumbs down or the shakeup shakeup ahead but if Jerry's looking at this rationally the he can't deny the benefits dion could bring. He thinks well on the other. Hand a shutdown shutdown corner who can also energize the home crowd. These are good. Thinks they can help us win and we do need to win the Super Bowl. Our window won't lasts forever but then again all that baggage Diaz clearly more about entertainment than football so jerry rice ace is torn suddenly. He's also having some pretty serious visions memories of the cowboys. Humiliating his forty niners in the playoffs. These pass to winters. He sees cowboy wide receivers. Michael Irvin Alvin Harper. And they're stupid. Starred helmets catching pass after. Pass beating the forty niners Niners cornerbacks now ray system celebrating with their smug owner Jerry Jones laughing in the forty niners faces in Jerry Rice his face and now Jerry's mind is made up all right. He says go for it. But there's a problem lem the forty niners still don't have enough salary cap space. The League puts limits on how much a team can spend on total player salaries each year so three forty nine or players actually agreed to rework their contracts to accommodate dion the front office then constructs a one year dion offer that includes a bonus bonus if the niners make it to the Super Bowl the organization and the players are serious about signing dion and know that winning is prime time primary goal. The only questions now are will he take the deal and more importantly how will he jerry. Rice survive as teammates. Whether you're reaction is excellent or I caramba. This is definitely some exciting news. 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They're all the iconic moments now available Disney plus in the United States. So get excited because you can stream the first thirty seasons of the simpsons and so much more right now when you subscribe on Disney plus I'm Dan Rubenstein. And this is sports. Wars The in the last episode Jerry Rice and Dion Sanders battled fiercely playing for NFC west rivals yet. Despite their enormous individual successes their teams each had some pretty big flaws for Jerry is aging forty niners. Their winning run from the eighties is long in the rear view mirror ear and are now firmly behind the Dallas cowboys in the NFC pecking order and in Atlanta. Dion Falcons have posted just one winning record in five seasons as both players Covet Super Bowl glory for their own reasons for Dionne. It's to win. His first title and further elevate his profile and for Jerry to prove that he belongs on football's mountaintop. They're now partners with a shared mission. So will they be able to coexist and win a ring or will will they clash of egos in this unlikely marriage end in disaster. This is episode four teammates It's September fifteenth at the forty niners. Santa Clara practice facility as dion walks onto the field. All eyes are staring at number. Twenty one forty nine or linebacker. Gary plummer thirty. Four year old veteran and self-described blue-collar throwback throws a skeptical glance direction. plummer thinks dion selfish thinks is sh mannequins will hurt the team. He's not alone but Jerry Rice. Who still worries about that? Exact problem greets dion as the team's leader he says hey. Welcome to the forty niners ray to do some work. Happy to be there dion response. You know it. Let's wintering three three days later. The niners suit up Anaheim stadium in southern California for a week three matchup against the Rams News of Diaz Forty nine or signing sent shockwaves shock waves throughout the league. The niners were never thought to be serious players in the primetime sweepstakes but now on paper there suddenly considered Super Bowl favorites favorites and now on the field. They're starting to look like it as well. It's the fourth quarter and the niners lead twenty seven to ten. After a Jerry Rice touchdown catch etched from Steve Young and playing cornerback on the right side of the field. The always loud dion has deflected two passes and help to quiet the rams top receivers verse on another niners. Dr Rice catches a young pass but gets tackled. The Rams won the receiver who never accepts coming up. Short is furious areas with himself for getting stopped. He heads back to the bench and stands next to dion. Rice is yelling at himself. Can't believe I got stopped there. Deanne response to I am trying to loosen him up. Listen if it had been me on you on that play you definitely would have scored run right over Jerry smiles. He feels better. Her Dion has lightened the mood. The forty niners wind eons debut thirty four to nineteen the following week. Primetime makes his home. Debut at. San Francisco's candlestick park fans can't wait to see neon dion up. Close the niners. Take a seventeen thirteen lead over New Orleans in the third quarter on a rice touchdown catch but in the game's final minute the saints drive into forty forty niner territory. Dion knows chance to show fans and a few remaining skeptical teammates. Exactly why he's worth all the hype as the saints try to Spoil Foil. His debut dion jumps in front of a pass and takes it seventy four yards the other way for a touchdown if there was any lingering doubt about Deonte John's ability. It's fully gone now a few hours later Prime Times game sealing highlight is featured on. ESPN's big recap show NFL. Primetime forty which episode to go and look at it. You know what's coming Chad Bryan. China's new kidney couldn't write a script like this. I five minutes ago. Came on the line dion. His first appearance at candlestick George Siefert said they. Don't write this in Hollywood a few few weeks later the forty niners are at Georgia. Dome Atlanta Dion back as a visitor over seventy one thousand strong as the forty. niners take on the Falcons begins with first place on the line in the NFC west both coming in with records up foreign to Jerry. Rice is a big play player as his Dion Sanders who returned to Atlanta for the first time since signing with the forty niners falcons fans are wearing t shirts that say dion who with the number twenty one crossed crossed out. Wendy owns announced the fans boo angrily. They've taken his departure for greener pastures. Pretty personally the niners lead fourteen. Nothing the second quarter. Its fourth and goal from the Falcon one. They could kick a field goal safe choice here but something feels different San Francisco. They're calling young is gonNA try to throw when he does. What a great play? He got the ball just as he was going down. Jerry Jerry walks back to the sideline as teammates tap is helmet. Dion and Jerry Bear. Hug and Dion smacks Jerry on the but with eleven fifty nine left in the second. Half the Falcons have the ball at the forty nine twenty. Five dion is covering his friend. Falcon Receiver Andre Rising. Well make that former friend reisen feels feels betrayed that dion left for a division rival on a running play reisen blocks dion a little too aggressively. Dion doesn't appreciate it and goes after rising awesome and soon penalty flags litter the field as the to trade punches. We got we got some Dukic going on Grey Rise Dion Sanders given that whole cook. Did you see that. That's a classic. Paul Number Twenty one on the big ten yards all actually be honest lucky then. He's on the phone cookbook. Because usually when that happens you get catch a Guy Duke watching this insanity from the sideline rice shakes his head in frustration. He thinks this is exactly why I was worried about bringing beyond on. He's always calling attention to himself. It's not not about. The team is a wildcard. And he need dependability. Now at least partially because of Deanza antics the Falcons are going to score and get right back into the game the momentum swings to Atlanta and they're inside the niners twenty the tenth drive here own Dion Sanders. It's dancing about the forty yard number on the crowd here. San Francisco Forty niners team is happy. Gone with the whole team together. That should have been a completion. Stand ninety five yards away from the niners win forty two to three three speaking to reporters at his locker after the game. Dion says one thing to say this is my house and I dissed and this is my house. I don't care. Bow Out always people. It's the day after Christmas in Minneapolis. The the niners are here preparing for a Monday night. Game against the Vikings to close out the nineteen ninety four regular season. Dion Jerry in the niners are on a ten game winning streak week. They've clinched homefield advantage throughout the NFC playoffs so technically this game is meaningless. But try telling Jerry Rice that AH knows how fragile a season is how the second you lose focus. That's when things collapse. He remembers how the niners went fourteen in two in both nineteen ninety. The and one thousand nine hundred ninety two and still didn't even make the Super Bowl as Jerry looks around the Metrodome Locker Room. He sees distractions left and right and and it's all stuff he could have predicted. He's kicking himself as he sees dion on his cell phone. Who even use as one of those dumb things? Another distraction dion rap album primetime was released today by MC Hammer's labeled bust it records the lead single is titled Must Be the money with other tracks including Primetime I'm keeps on ticking. Say Hi to the bad Guy House of prime and time for prime reprise during their workout. Yesterday dion was teaching some teammates a new end endzone dance Jerry. Thinks this is just not someone who's taking the actual game seriously enough and now right over there. Jerry sees to linemen shirtless. Yes in play wrestling players nearby. Them are laughing and egging them on. Jerry has officially had enough. He shouts guys. Hey guys we're trying to get her before a game. The Locker Room Falls silent. The niners lose to the Vikings Twenty one fourteen. Just Jerry feared. Dion came with a price. He better be worth it in the playoffs. Especially against those damn cowboys. The forty niners have the. NFL's best record at thirteen and three. Jerry's hundred twelve twelve receptions in nearly fifteen hundred yards receiving both lead the. NFL Indians had the best season of his career. His three hundred and three interception return in yards and three picks returned for touchdowns are tops in the league. In fact he'll be named defensive player of the year. It's a couple of weeks later. January Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-five at Candlestick Park. The forty niners are taking on the cowboys in the NFC championship game. Dallas the League's newest dynasty is is extremely confident as it looks to lock up its third straight super bowl appearance cowboys. Receiver Alvin Harper. WHO Like Jerry wears number eighty is talking talking trash before kick-off number eight fake number eighty over probably come away kick addresses his teammates with the veins in his neck pulsating he pleads with them if you have any pride at all we cannot we they will not lose? His speech is followed with some primal yells. All around the forty niners when introduced by the announcer dion in his red Bandanna China does his Primetime Dance Jerry. Meanwhile jobs out seriously with his helmet on it's late in the first half the niners lead twenty four to fourteen. Ven Young goes back to throw touchdown just went right by dion. Meanwhile Shuts Down Harper. Who has just one reception all day and Dion even suffocates Michael Irvin? When he's assigned to the other cowboys star plays the forty niners force five cowboy turnovers and clinch the NFC championship? Thirty eight twenty eight. They're finally going back to the Super Bowl. If Jerry can play like this just one more time. It's pretty clear that have what it takes to beat the San Diego chargers and together together when a ring but first they'll have to survive a week plus cooped up in the same hotel and they'll have to get along so so yeah a big if. Hey here's some things that better undeniably tough to do waking up at five. Am to go for a five mile. Run those pushups. Were you clap in the middle of or establishing yourself as the Liz O of Sports podcasting podcasting. It's pretty much impossible. She's an icon also talking about e D. Yeah that last one so E. D. is really really hard to talk about but with our sponsor Roman. 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If he were to switch over to sports radio he probably hear about how he's the major story of the Super Bowl the media is obsessing over his mansions and his rap album. They're talking about his jewelry and custom-made close. They're going on and on about the car. He's currently partly tooling around in. which dion called quote a gift from myself to myself because only I know what I want? They're talking about how he took. His teammates made the self professed old school. Gary plummer out on the town. The Hey Gary plummer who thought he'd hate the on before the season one newspaper even even has a dion watch which reports on every single time primetime spot at around town. Dion leaves the Lamborghini unattended at the entrance into the Blue Lagoon Hilton. He shows up wearing a visor turned upside down and backwards. Big Sunglasses gold chains and a white striped warm up suit inside aside the ballroom. Dion in stream of consciousness tells reporters that after he retires. He wants a private lake with efficient named Bubba he also says he wants to host host. TV show called fishing with the prime time cell phone then rings. Dion announces to the gathered media. MOMS Colin gotta go and and just like that. The interview is over at practice the next day. Dion who's wearing a black BANDANNA and red shorts feels the team is to tents then everyone needs to loosen up so he rolls a football to a teammate. Who runs in scoops it up and throws it like a baseball outfielder pretend catcher makes the tag and a fake umpire yells? You're out the players nearby double over laughing and high five each other. Meanwhile Jerry Wearing Jersey and his team issue football pants is standing with head coach. George Siefert and his staff. Rice is all business. The forty niners are favored by double digits. Hits over the chargers but Jerry knows that this is no time for complacency. He knows it's especially easy to lose. Focus during super bowl week with all the HOOPLA and hype hype Dion Glances over at Jerry who he notices has a very serious look about him after five months playing with the star receiver. Dion still doesn't feel like he knows Jerry. He's mysterious loner. Often Diaz spot jerry by himself in the cafeteria or in the locker room shadows ddos. He's the best player ever dion thinks but he doesn't seem to have the relationships the friends that make the game fulfilling. He's not enjoying the ride. It's Thursday morning at the hotel during a team. Meeting SEAFORD stands in in front of his players. He's mad he says. Hey it's come to my attention that a bunch of you guys missed your eleven pm curfew last night. This is unacceptable bowl and I'm gonNA find out exactly who it was ashamed. Expressions overtake player faces. Huge heads drop Jerry then rises. He Says No. We'll handle this ourselves. Siefert nods the coaches leave. Rice is live it even more so than Siefert. Here we go. Oh thinks dion prime time of course was one of the twenty five guys who broke curfew. Jerry shouts to all of you who missed curfew last. Snipe were not in Miami to hang out or to have a good time. We're here to win the Super Bowl party anytime all during the year but not uh now hell I'll even party with you when it's all over but right now we're preparing for the biggest game of our careers and know that nobody remembers the loser user of a super bowl. If you WANNA be champions. It's time you all behave like champions. When he's done dion stands up calmly? He says to Jerry area in the group. Look you know damn well. We're going to beat them. Breaks off San Diego. I understand that this was Saturday. Well this Wednesday so everybody just calm down. Don't get some bananas shape. WE'RE GONNA win my thirty anyway. What's the difference? We got this all right in unison. About a hundred it is whip over to Jerry. Rice can't believe what he's hearing. Calm down here at the Super Bowl Lou. Joe Montana Ronnie Lotte Roger Craig Thinking Right now. Jerry stands back up and approaches dion. There's more arguing watching the two superstars shouting and moving towards each other star Star. Forty nine a running back. Ricky watters is growing increasingly alarmed. He thinks are they gonNA throw down Luckily Dion. Jerry are separated. Aided Dion sits down and the meeting ends. It seems that cooler heads have prevailed but it's apparently not over later by the hotel pool. ooh Jerry and dion resume their argument once again they have to be separated with the Super Bowl just three days away. Jerry Indians five five year long conflict on the field has erupted off of it in plain view and into a full-blown civil war Sunday afternoon. January twenty nine at Joe Robbie Stadium as the forty niners. Take the field for Super Bowl. Twenty nine Jerry is satisfied satisfied again. Everyone made curfew last night including the on the incident from earlier in the week seems to have refocused everyone just in time Jerry. Jerry did what he needed to do less than two minutes into the game. Steve Young is looking to throw frank. gehry right Fifth Super Bowl touchdowns pudding defensively safety men and they were like they were paralyzed. They're almost like I'm looking for an autograph who went by the niners. Pour it on. Just as dion had guaranteed by the third quarter. San Francisco is ahead. Thirty thirty five to ten. Don't grow but a pair. Jerry landed awkwardly dog in fact rice. dislocates hates his shoulder on the play later when Jerry has to rebuttal his chin strap it's too painful to lift his arms. Jerry then hears a voice. Hey need some help. Nope it's dion. He tenderly hold Jerry's helmet with his black glove and is the strap. Thanks Prime Jerry says late in the fourth quarter. After yet another rice touchdown catch makes it forty nine to eighteen San Francisco. He's Dion who gets into the act that over the fans Saturday as the clock ticks down rice smiles and waves at his now. Wife Jackie in the stands and of his tenth seasonally. And he's he he's never been better and he's such a professional. That's the beauty of Jerry. Rice nobody team worked hard very right there. That's that's the standard for all. The celebration is on Jerry. Rice is Super Bowl. MVP once again under the bright camera. Lights Steve Young then asks it's February first. Three days later back in Santa Clara young pulls into the niners practice does facility to be expected. The place is empty quiet except for the sound of a single set of cleats meeting the turf. Young looks out to the field old jerry. Rice is not at Disneyland. He's by himself. Running Crisp routes also to be expected. It's the summer of Nineteen nineteen ninety five and a Bay Area Photo Studio Dion. Sanders is posing a Miami Dolphins uniform. After several camera clicks he changes into a Dallas cowboys. All Boys Uniform next he puts jerseys for the eagles. Forty niners broncos. It's for the cover art of his upcoming Sega. video-game dion still hasn't isn't decided where he's going to play next year he's waiting until baseball season's over to make a decision prime time is only considering super bowl contenders and the media media speculation never ends. The talking heads are saying that whoever dion chooses will be the super bowl favorites earlier in the year. All the speculation was even a subject of demons monologue when he hosted Saturday night. Live as your know a month ago. The San Francisco go boarding. Addis won the Super Bowl now my country. Because I'm I'm a free agent about a week ago. Lorne michaels calm. You made me offer. He said I got a good eighteen. Here it is but it could be a great team. I need you in reality. Dion leaning toward the forty niners. Who Want Him Back Diaz? Mom wants him to play closer to home. So Miami would be great though. She expects him to stay in San Francisco with the dominant Super Bowl Champs Carmen policy the niners president puts their odds better than fifty percent at resigning him across the country legendary dolphins head coach Don Shula. He's also interested in Dion on in Texas cowboys owner. Jerry Jones wants dion desperately but Dallas. Just doesn't have the money available under the salary cap. The Denver Broncos then make a strong offer raiders owner. Al Davis enters sweepstakes offering dion a huge deal. Dion tells the niners that he really wants to come back. But it'll take at least three million a year. There's no hometown discount for the niners. This is a problem. Rice is oh two point six million dollars this season the highest of any non quarterback in football. There's just no way the niners can offer more than they are without offending rice. Meanwhile San Francisco's legendary. January whiteout has been following all along with this dion free agency fiasco hearing the numbers being thrown around for this over the top. CORNERBACK pisses them off. He thinks here's a guy who's GonNa skip training camp to play baseball. Who might not even show up until the seasons half over and he's demanding more money than I had to a big for this isn't right? niners management also understands this so the niners decide that their best hope is for dion to accept less money to come back here to win another ring the forty niners know that they have other advantages to dion lives in nearby Fremont where MC hammer are is his neighbor and Sega. The Video Game Company for which Dion is a spokesperson is based in the area as well even more significant Diaz Baseball team the Cincinnati reds heads just traded him to the San Francisco giants. That's a huge boost to the niners. Chances of keeping D on the fold all those talking heads are now predicting addicting that the forty niners will re signed the on and win another super bowl. It's Saturday September ninth at the Cowboys Valley Ranch Practice Facility Outside Dallas at a press conference alongside owner Jerry. Jones Dionne appears wearing a navy stripe business suit diamond earrings and cowboy's hat just just after midnight last night dion signed seven year. Thirty five million dollar contract making him the league's highest paid defensive player. Ever it took six cowboys including friend. Wide Receiver Michael Irvin agreeing to renegotiate their contracts to accommodate dion and the team salary cap. The deal includes promises that dion gets to play some offense for Dallas. I'm looking forward to the I asked him put on his football field or the put on edge style which one mile when you wanted to Ordina negative history everyday on my helmet you know as a kid. Dion promised his mom. He'd be so rich that she'd never have to work again. And now he's very rich about twice as rich in fact as Jerry Rice plus demons twelve million dollar signing bonus is also the largest just in NFL history. The truth is after winning his super bowl with the niners. Dion didn't feel satisfied. He's hungry for something else. Now if he can and be the difference again for another team and earned even more money maybe then he'll feel completely satisfied so dion has now officially officially joined. The forty niners most hated opponent and because of it Jerry. Rice and Dion Sanders are rivals. Once again it's September tenth tenth the day after Cowboys Press Conference Jerry's at his locker at candlestick park moments after he caught two touchdowns in the forty niners forty one to ten win over Red Lanta. But he's not satisfied. He's actually quaking with rage before the game. Fox reported that Jerry Rice never even call Dion. Try and sell them on coming back to San Francisco during the niners recruiting battle with Dallas. This was the last straw after a ton of articles suggested that the forty forty niners won the super bowl because of dion and that they can't win without him so now Jerry's had enough. He blows up to nearby reporters. His voice booming off locker room walls. You know what we are angry. You guys turn the ship into a circus. No one individual wins King Super Pro Bowl. It's a team effort. It was insult you guys wrote. It's an insult to the guys who busted their butts during mini camp in the entire season. A nearby forty niners. Pr Rep is trying to calm jerry down to tug him away from saying anything he'll later regret but Jerry's ignoring he's not finished he thunders Dion Sanders. This came to this team for half a season. You guys didn't give any of our other players any respect and that pisses me off. They should get the recognition that they deserve. And and I want each of you to know that in the final episode of Our story Jerry Jerry and dion returned to being competitors and compete in their last and most contentious showdown yet and as their careers wind down and in the years that follow blow the each will face struggles that could fundamentally change them and that will bring the rivalry full circle. I hope you enjoyed this episode of sports worse. If you did you can subscribe. Drive on Apple podcasts. spotify Google podcast wondering DOT COM or wherever. You're listening to this right now. If you're listening on a smartphone tap or swipe over the cover art you'll find the episode notes and some authors from our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us offer you the show for free if you like. What you've heard we'd love for you to give us a five star rating in? Tell your friends how to subscribe. Somebody's going to ask you. Listen to podcasts. Any podcast to recommend boom there. You are heroes. 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The Clinaissance: How Celine Dion became cool

The Big Story

20:02 min | 1 year ago

The Clinaissance: How Celine Dion became cool

"The lake a lot of people who were cynical teenagers in the nineteen nineties. I considered Celine Dion cheesy at best and as a Canadian in kind of embarrassing. Don't hold it against me. That was kind of the style. At the time selene was over emotional she was way too hard felton earnest and Kranji and you remember and then I got older and selene kind of faded into the background. At least I certainly never thought that I would be publicly. Apologizing College is saying and admitting my wrongness twenty years later on a podcast but here we are and here is selene by here. I mean gene everywhere. She is rocking fashion weeks. She's changing the definition of a Las Vegas residency. She is planning her first worldwide tour and forever. She has a new album album. Does that single kind of rock so wait is celine dion finally cool or have we all finally become cool enough to get where she was coming from on this whole time. I'm Jordan Heath Rawlings and this is the big story. Susannah Schoeller is a writer at many publications including the Walrus where she unpacked today's Selene Dion Susannah high. Hey why don't we start in Vegas like you did and for those of us who have not been there. Tell me what it's like to watch selene dion perform in Las Bagus well first of all it was my first time in Vegas so it was a bit overwhelming and I was at the time I was living on a small island in BC where there are no street lights lights so heading to Las Vegas was a little bit of a physical and emotional culture shock and Selena was incredible. I have to say it was view. View we above and beyond I had spent a few days there by the time I saw her and it really sort of felt like the culmination of my vegas experience -perience she is just a flawless professional and really just like a force of nature. There's not a note amiss in her entire performance. It's really really incredible to see what about the theater itself and the showmanship of it. All is done up in pure vegas the style. I have never been to a concert in Vegas for the record. Yeah I mean I don't know what the Pure vegas-style is necessarily because I haven't been to any other shows but hers really so it'd it's enormous first of all. It's just a huge amphitheater. It's very but somehow weirdly intimate. You can really see her from all angles and she feels very close. Even though you're quite I mean I was quite physically far away. I guess lots and other people pay money to be a lot closer to her and people are just just like really there to have a good time. It's very although I would actually say it was a lot calmer than the rest of Vegas like they're such focused in such attention on this one phenomenon rather than having sort of distractions everywhere and like flashing things. It's just really like you know you and your four thousand closest friends lean dion and she had been there almost constantly for about sixteen years right when it ended in June. Yes she first. I started there in two thousand and three was there from two thousand three two thousand seven and then again from twenty eleven until just this June when she first started in Vegas as has a resident what was a residency in Vegas seen as for a performer wins leaned for started in Vegas as a resident and it was really seen as a place. Are you sort of went for your career to quietly die. It was not a place people went to promote new work to sort of be on the up up until it was really quite radical that she went at the moment of really like the peak of her fame. It was just after titanic it was when the entire world really for the first time knew who was and it was really considered like a very strange and unexpected career move and it has just absolutely Louis radically transformed the economics of what Vegas residency isn't what it means and also really liked the cultural valence of what it means to do a residency. There is now something people do when their careers are really striving not not when they're sort of stardom is in decline. Why did she decide to go to vegas than at the peak of her fame yes so she does discussed this a little bit in her autobiography and I would say that the main main reason was her husband Rene. Who was also her manager? He was a really big vegas guy and he was a gambler and he had relationships with all of the Casino owners with the hotel owners. He was dislike really a part of that world and it was released sort of his vision and it was kind of a huge gamble and it certainly did ultimately pay off but that was really mostly his brainchild. I think and I mean certainly a gamble title for her career and really bake forward decision in that way but also I think just really a personal decision like he wanted to be in Vegas. What about the way her career has has been transformed over the time she's being in Vegas because I remember I am the right age to remember the titanic era Dion and she was many things things and she was huge but she was also just not cool in particular yeah yeah I mean that's a really tough question to answer because there's I think a lot of factors factors 'cause something that a lot of Selene vans will say when you when you mentioned like oh awake she suddenly cool again as they get very defensive about it exactly they're like she's always been here. She's always been a clean but in that sort of her fans call her queens who ran the reference but I would say that to my mind. This has a lot to do with our cultures relationship to irony and the way that that relationship has been an renegotiated a lot and I feel like I mean this is just completely my assessment but I feel like in the last few years we've you've really moved away from being interested in art and culture that projects any kind of Lake Reserve or detachment attachment or disinterest or like ironic distancing wake in the way that I mean I'm sort of originally a product of the nineties and I feel like in in the nineties yeah. There's sort of like I like irony was really like the dominant mode and I feel like we've really moved into a place where we come to really value just like raw open hearted sincerity selene dion has always always been there delivering that and it just it was sort of embarrassing. I think to a lot of us like to like the cultural sensibility for a long time mm-hmm and I I mean I don't know if I'm right about this but I kind of feel like in the wake of the two thousand sixteen election of Donald Trump's really changed the way our culture views news expressions of sincerity expressions of emotion and there's been this move towards like tenderness like big heartedness and people sort of expressing their love and their pain and really frank ways and so India has just always done and then the other thing. I think that she really captures officers in addition to that kind of like Schmaltzy big-hearted quality is that we've also become very comfortable. Mediating are big and strong emotions through ooh very superficial media and like sort of like instagram post about all the feelings kind of the prototype and so in Insulin Dion. There's an incredibly superficial person who's nonetheless slate completely imbued with huge unwieldy insincere emotions so I feel like she's sort of become this Avatar for what our cultural taste has grown into example beyond the songs themselves that kind of villa straight though the persona that she wears now and how it resonates with us. We'll definitely her. Fashion is a great place to turn. I mean I'd I'd she's all of a sudden really become a fashion icon and she's always been very interested in fashion and she talks about it again a lot in her autobiography and she's always really light it kind of like big things and too much in excess and it often took a form that I think in the past we would have described as incredibly tacky and now fashion has moved in this direction where like expressions of over the top nece sort of like ridiculousness and self reference. I friends have really moved back into fashion back into and there's an so sleepy on is like all of a sudden just even this year you know was like queen of Paris couture week. You know watching her. She was walking around Paris using lake dogs as props ups and just like wearing just wearing like huge ridiculous an over the top things and like really mixing like high and low and everyone just loved. Oh dead it. Just sorta felt like she was she. Was this twenty nineteen figure that she's just like always been they're doing that. It just looked totally different. Tell me about what it's like to try to inhabit that kind of persona 'cause you spoke to a number of people who who are celine's. I guess Yes yes so I approach this piece. I mean typically when you're writing a celebrity profile. The ideal thing is to spend time with that person to sort of follow the the model where you spend three days with them and the publicist sends you out to go mini golfing or whatever and obviously in the case of somebody likes dion that is it's just not really an option so I was really just trying to find a way to see her in a different way and to think about like how I could get close to her without being appar and actually it was also partly my I should give credit where it's due to Dan Viola my editor at the Walrus when we were just kind of knocking ideas around he brought up impersonators. What about a piece. That's all about impersonators. But how do you impersonate celine dion yeah yeah well very different ways as I mean some the thing that I learned about impersonation that I mean it kind of takes place on a spectrum that people are doing different things with it like there. There are I mean the main difference. The main distinction is essentially whether people are like lookalikes and their goal is to just present visually assuming dion on and then maybe like for example like doing drag your lips gang like it's all that sort of inhabiting somebody's character and then there are vocal impersonators who will perform as selene like singing her songs so I spent time with both and the way that they do it. I mean I mean they all have different approaches to it but the thing that was I mean I don't know if I want to say it was surprising to me but it was more than I could have hoped was just just the degree to which it's almost sort of like spiritual transformation that these people undergo that they really are trying to sort of inhabit and channel like her UH and some quality of like her essence in her character and her being and they just like really adore her far above and beyond what I really could have expected. I am for the most I would say there. Were also some people who I didn't necessarily include the story but who I am talks to or researched or like looked around and there is a mode of becoming an impersonator where it's more. Lake you happen to have an incredible vocal expression you happen but of basically be an incredible vocalist and apply that talent to mimicking celine dion the people who I ended up using the story and ended up talking to where more people who were really like immersed in becoming her and it was really really interesting. It was really interesting to see them and to look at their performances and says and to and to talk to them about what they do is quite fascinating. How do those people 'cause. They're there impersonating Salim but they're also living their regular lives. Yeah how do you merge those two and how do you be selene in public with all of the cause of all the people to impersonate. It's very odd one for Vegas especially well. I mean in some it's different for different people but in a lot of cases this is to sort of you know they're freelancers and they live a life the way that many freelance due out where this is a gag their. I self employed they are negotiating their own contracts with people sort of figuring and trying to figure out what their service is worth than what they can ask for are and how much to invest in their costumes in their makeup and it's really just like anybody running a small business. It's just like a very odd odd very particular very unique service that they're offering and yeah. They have very regular lives. They're just people you know has Selena ever met any of them so mostly no and actually a big part of my piece was really talking to people about their relationship to her specifically in light the fact that they hadn't met her. There's like a very big longing on many of their parts to be close to her and to meet her but there's also quite a lot of anxiety about the fact that you know you have dedicated your art on your craft in your livelihood to imitating person. You don't don't know if they really are GonNa like that. You're there copycat so while I was writing the story one of the impersonators had been speaking to Steven Wayne who who is a drag performer he had been in Vegas at the time for twenty years and so slightly longer than selene herself and they'd never met and and he was really devastated by it and while I was writing the story he got hired by Salinas people to perform in a a promotional video for her new world tour where he plays a slain dion impersonator so he plays himself playing selene and so they met like while I was in writing the peace after I had met him and he texted me and sent me a photo of the two of them on this side and he talked about how wonderful she was in. How gracious end there's actually app you can find some videos on youtube of like from like the making of video from this. Promo that they did and you know there's them you know so in the desert and he's like wearing his sparkley selene drafts and she's like wearing this ludicrous outfit and dancing around and talking to him about how much she appreciates him yeah so that was really lovely. That connection got to happen and it was very lucky for me and writing the story. Do we appreciate Selene Dion in Canada as much as they do in Vegas or as much as we should. I guess because it's always it's always for a lot of us. Come back down to the are we appropriate elite proud of our national icons yeah. I think that I think lately we there's been a real just her increase in popularity in general oh. I feel like Canadians are kind of seizing a little bit on that and being like yeah no she's one of ours but but we haven't really done that for her entire career like shoes made fun of South Park and Canadians were apologizing for her and yeah I mean I feel recently. There's been a turn like all of a sudden like just with this sudden sort of the Selena. Sauce says they're calling it. I do feel like Canada's candidate. I find is always very quick to claim people when they're doing well elsewhere and so I feel like in a very only in very recent times has that kind of happened and I do think that candidate B. has like the opportunity to appreciate swing dion in a way that Americans like never really fully can and for more on that I would recommend people re Carl Wilson's book at Let's talk about love and it's sort of a an examination of kind kind of the Herman UNIX of taste as evidenced by celine dion and he has a really wonderful chapter about her relationship specifically two like K. Becua- music into into Quebecois history that I think is really stunning so if people want further reading I recommend that will that was kind of the the last little bit I wanted to talk to you about is because she's been in Vegas Vegas for most of the last sixteen years. How connected is she to combat? Kwok culture and has she performed there. is she going back. Oh yes she's I mean she Donna from quote this right but in her autobiography at one point she says that 'cause she sorry. This is kind of a roundabout answer service. She performed like really rigorous. Vocal rest and like will not speak for days at a time to save her vocal cords at one point in her autobiography she he says that silence is country. I will always go back to just as I'll always go back to Quebec. I just love she's yes I mean she considers herself very a very deeply rooted in Quebec and I know she certainly very much considers herself cable Also I mean I think anybody who sees her. Here's her speak. There's something sort of inevitably came about her. I hope that doesn't offend anyone. She's a Quebecois icon. I mean lastly. Where does she go from here so she's not made any plans to go back to Vegas yet. You mentioned a world tour. Do we get new Selena music as she capitalizing. I guess on on on the Selena Simmons. Oh she sure is yeah. She's launching her twelfth studio album in English. I believe also called courage starting world tour for that. I don't think has any planned end yet like they just kind of keep adding dates and yeah and also I mean they've the only released one track from the album so far I believe I think it comes out in November of it's sort of like an EDM dance like upbeat dancy pop idiom. Am hit so I think she's really exploring different sounds and you know it's a whole new selene amazing. Thank Susannah. Thank you so much. It is really a pleasure Susannah Charlotte from the Walrus. That was the big story for more from US including zero other episodes. Oh it's about Selene Dion so far you can head to the big story podcast dot. Ca You can also share your selene thoughts and tell me how wrong I was on our twitter account account at the Big Story F. PM and of course this podcast and all our brother and sister podcast here the frequency podcast network are available wherever you get them in in your favorite APP Google Stitcher spotify pick one Clare Brisard is the lead producer of the Big Story Ryan Clark and Stephanie Phillips our Associate Producers as an analyst and Nielsen is our digital editor. Thanks for listening have a great weekend. Listen to some selene. We'll talk money.

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Sanders vs. Rice  Final Showdown | 5

Sports Wars

37:36 min | 10 months ago

Sanders vs. Rice Final Showdown | 5

"It's it's early afternoon on Thursday November Tenth Nineteen ninety-five at the Dallas Cowboys Training Facility in Texas Dion. Sanders is wearing a cowboy's his hat cocked to the side while taking questions from the gathered Dallas media. The huge forty niners cowboys. Game is just three short days away but it feels like a mismatch to everyone covering the game. The cowboys are rolling at eight and one the niners are mother. Treading water at five and four and the injuries are piling up. Steve Young the forty niners star quarterback is out injured. They've now lost two straight including one at home to an expansion team team the Carolina Panthers still the hype surrounding the matchup is huge. The media's been crafting and debating their pre-game narratives does your A showdown between the teams. That won the last three Super Bowls Dion Sanders versus Jerry Rice. The NFL's best receiver against the League's top corner to superstars who nearly traded fists on their way to winning a super bowl as teammates. What's going to happen now that there again going against each other on the field? Dion insists that he doesn't WanNa fan the flames of their rivalry but when a reporter asked him about the war of words he had with Jerry over Miss Curfews during Super Bowl. Week can't help himself. He says a curfew like that would never stand around here. Hear these teams are night and day. Were so loose. So confident really close. In San Francisco You Punch in and out there's no camaraderie. And and then when he's asked about some comments from the forty nine or organization that he's not missed San Francisco Dion replies. Listen I've got friends who have drug and alcohol problems problems and they tell you the first stage they go through is denial in the forty. Niners are in denial. And what about Jerry. Rice's locker room comments about how dion only played half a season with the niners that no one guy can win a super bowl dion answers. I took it personal. He said I was only there half season. I was fourteen games laughed when I saw it. I thought it was funny. As hell to see Guy Upset and stumble around and curse like that over a few words I never I said I want a super bowl by myself. I don't know where that came from. Michael Irvin the cowboys flashy pass catcher. Who many think has replaced Jerry as the top receiver in the League strolls over to reporters asked him to comment about Jerry? Ervin answers what Jerry Jerry Rice the real Jerry. Jerry Jones Dion and Irvine laugh hysterically. They know their boss. The cowboys owner will love that line. Now the guys are rolling. The trash talk is flowing knowing as reporters bring the questions. Back to Sunday's game for the niners Dion says I want to win that game big not just by seven points. I want to do things in the end zone. It's a bold statement that he knows Jerry Rice in the niners will hear what he doesn't know is that it'll unleash a side of Jerry. Even Dion hadn't seen before by now you've likely heard about Disney plus the new streaming service service that includes Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars and National Geographic Disney plus is now available in the US and it has one of the most incredible libraries is in the entire streaming landscape. And it's all ad free from beloved classics like Snow. White and the seven. WARF's to modern blockbusters like Captain Captain Marvel and avengers endgame to critically acclaimed documentaries like National Geographic's free Solo. The content on Disney plus is truly unparalleled paralleled Disney plus also offers beloved series like the Simpsons and a host of originals. Like the man delorean the first ever Star Wars live action series as well as high school musical. The musical the series of very meditate on the beloved film franchise. It's no wonder Disney plus has become become one of the most talked about streaming services of twenty nineteen. So don't miss out sign up for Disney plus now and start streaming all this great content today away from wondering I'm Dan Rubenstein and this is sports wars the most recent episode stars for NFC West rival teams seems Dion Sanders and Jerry. Rice became unlikely teammates in San Francisco and together help lead the forty niners to super bowl. Glory but they're clashing approach approach and personalities came to a head during the lead up to the big game in Miami when they got in each other's faces and nearly came to blows and when when Dionne entered free agency after the season he bolted for Dallas the niners biggest rival where he agreed to a huge landmark contract. Now now dion and Jerry are set to go at each other on the field once again and as they enter the next chapter of their lives both will take on adversity that will change them forever. The rivalry enters a new chapter in rather unexpected fashion. This is episode five the final showdown It's November Twelfth Nineteen ninety-five and Texas Stadium Media just outside of Dallas Jerry. Rice tears across the line of scrimmage at Primetime himself Dion Sanders. Rice is pissed. I pissed at Dion now makes twice as much money as he does pissed that dion had the stones to mock him at a news conference. He's so pissed that he can't hear roar of the sixty five thousand plus fans bearing down on him. Outside of Dion. Everything in the world is blocked out. This is why I run the hills while he writes amateur rap songs. This is why I demand perfection for myself while T. demands dollars from his team. This is how I show the difference between me and broad. Dion has never seen Jerry so intense. It's unsettling he thinks was all that trash talk of a steak Dionne just wanted to have some fun and give the media some red meat but it seems to have sparked something crazy and Jerry. The ball is snapped. It's a run but that's not stopping either guy from trying to send a message to reach other dion runs up bumps JERRY GRABS HIS JERSEY. Jerry dives into Diaz legs the broadcast team in the booth takes notice and when they about Dion Sanders. Es Physical. And the line of scrimmage. And I'll tell you another thing about Jerry Rice. He is also physical and he is an excellent blocker. and You ed remember just on that point. That play was going away from those two guys way to come. Adam will be talking on the next down the cowboys his defense falls into zone coverage they're just guarding areas not individual niners. Jerry's disappointed not to get dion one on one but also and even with the niners backup qb under center. He thinks big mistake. Roy Why is Jerry Rice off to the racism. Jerry rice rice touchdown from eighty one yard. There's one field fired up today. Jerry Rice now after a couple of cowboys turnovers. The forty niners are out big. The Dallas Dallas crowd is stunned and now the niners are threatening once again as Jerry steps. To the line of scrimmage. Dion is once again opposite him and now it's it's clear that he's in man coverage so no more zone to hide from each other Jerry's adrenaline surges good. Jerry thinks this is how I really want to score goals. Burbach withdrawing boost. I think that's what we're waiting for. Your when you get down there for the touchdown Dion Sanders against Jerry right now. Gun that ball a little sooner. That could have been a touchdown early. Good Jerry clinches his fist visted frustration. Gir- Bach Jerry. Thanks Steve would never have missed A. GimMe like that still the niners score again making it. It twenty one nothing but Jerry is also keeping track on his personal scoreboard. He wants one against Dion. Go deep and John Boy Territory Thirty twenty. It wasn't covered by sanders and he was coming out of the slot crossing twenty six yard pickup with with the score. Now twenty four to seven in the second quarter the cowboys switch Tiaan back onto rights. durbar Sir Welcome Sanders Right. Everyone was looking for. This is what you want to stay double coverage. There's no so there's no safety intimately help you. Your advice gets to step out of raises his hand. There's no one with better catch up. Spader all football number twenty one now. The matchup is starting to hunt. Jerry he knows what at the announcers must be saying. He's cooking the cowboys but not the way he wants Dion Sanders at halftime. The forty niners lead thirty one to seven in the locker room. Forty forty niners players are enjoying themselves. They're chatting and joking around Jerry walks in sees this and explodes. Hey he screams James. This shit is serious. Cut Out all this. But we haven't won yet. The locker room falls deathly silent. No one even dares to make Dion Jon Sanders joke to lighten the mood in the second. Half Dion sticks on Jerry and Jerry still hell bent on putting dion in his place in front of the millions watching watching at home for a quarterback and a wide receiver. He met batters physical as it can get out there. It's third and long for the niners. There's late in the third quarter. Jerry beats the on off a quick move. He's opened deep. Jerry looks up and Gir- Bach throws it incomplete intended intended for J J stokes another niner receiver entirely Jerry. Motions angrily Durbach. That was Jerry's last chance at beating Dion on today. He's frustrated but as he walks off the field with a surprisingly big win. He knows that he took this round. Jerry approaches dion puts. It's a hand on his shoulder and says hey those things I said to the media. I was just standing up for my teammates. Even dion is speechless. There's not much just to say he knows Jerry took today's battle afterward. When asked Dion tells a reporter? Hey My hats are off Jerry Rice. He's the best receiver to ever play the game. So it's a few months later. April nineteen ninety six thirty miles south of San Francisco. Jerry is running alone up. A mountain path fields fields of wildflowers on each side every off season since his twenties Jerry has pushed his limits. By sprinting up this two and a half Mile Hill in a nature preserve. He's now thirty two and feels better than ever. This is what allows him to dig deep and fourth quarters when he's exhausted. This is the difference between being in good and being an all time great because of this his lungs and legs are the stuff of legend. He's also even at thirty two coming off the best S. season of his career. One hundred twenty two catches thirteen touchdowns and nearly nineteen hundred yards receiving. That's over four hundred yards more than any receiver his the age ever but Jerry's not satisfied he's still obsessing over hell. The niners season ended. They won five straight after beating. Dion and the cowboys the regular season but fell to NFL MVP Brett Farve in his packers in the playoffs. Jerry ended up watching the super bowl from home watching as a familiar. cornerback added insult to injury. I down at the excellent job of catching the football and the little prime time. Forty eighty seven yards on the play for Standard Jerry continue sweating and grunting his way up the hill. He has to beat Dion next year but has he runs. Jerry knows this obsession has come at a cost. He thinks about his wife. Jackie she's pregnant. With the couple's third child she's the backbone of the family and has been there for him during his darkest days as a player. But he thinks is he there for her. He works year round and when he is. He's home he's not fully present. He's never taken Jackie on even a single vacation. His single-minded way of living is hurting their relationship. And he he knows it. But Jerry can't stop working yesterday. The niners draft a receiver in an early round named Tara. llewellyn's if I relax Jerry. Everything's the game and the younger players like that dude will pass me by. So he continues hustling up the incline. It's May Sixteenth Nineteen ninety-six a month later. Jackie gives gives birth to their third child. Jerry is there to cut the umbilical cord. It's a healthy baby girl but there are complications. Jackie is bleeding internally. Finally she needs emergency surgery. Jerry feels helpless. He's terrified soon. The doctors tell him. Jackie may not make it through the night. Jerry kneels down and praise miraculously Jackie's conditions stabilizes. But she still in a coma. A respirator is keeping her alive. Some doctors WANNA turn it off no way Jerry says Jerry stays at the hospital with Jackie for weeks. He strokes strokes. Her hair reads her magazines. Jerry is distraught and filled with regret about how he's approached their life together while he was busy constructing in his entire world around football. He knows he failed to appreciate what truly matters three weeks later. Jackie Awakens from her coma. Still doctors don't know if she'll ever walk again. And Jerry has doubts of his own but of a different sort he wonders if he'll ever play football again it's November nineteen ninety-six. The cowboys team plane is levelling out at thirty thousand feet and route to San Francisco for a showdown against the forty niners. Players aboard are glued to their personal DVD players. They're watching movies like Billy Madison. The usual suspects chuckling. At Billy's drying think of a blue duck dion screen is bigger and more expensive than anyone's he's drawn into his own viewing choices. Well watching it over and over. It's game film of Jerry. Rice Dion is studying the receivers footwork watching his first two steps for clues. Dion hits pause. He opens a notebook. It's filled with information on the niners route combinations Cowboys Safety Darren Woodson glances over at Dion. John Woodson knows that this is a side of dion. Most people don't get to see Dionne. Meticulous Preparation Woodson sees it during practice to how hardy on works how he compliments and pushes his teammates behind closed doors. DVD screen goes black batteries dead. A few teammates look over and notice dion alone in his thoughts. He's looked pretty withdrawn lately. If they knew what he was really going through they'd be worried. It's November nineteen ninety-six at candlestick park. The niners are hosting the Dallas cowboys. Jerry's numbers this season are down for the first time. He skipped spring minicamp to help Jackie at home when he eventually did return to football. It was tough to concentrate. He you wondered if it was right to be back on the field. He never wondered that before in the first quarter. Jerry goes into motion before a snap. WHOA Jerry Rice the intended RESEDA broken up by Sander even though dion made the play? He's rarely focused on Jerry. One on one in fact demons now consistently playing offense is well Jerry wonders if his rival will ever care as much about their ongoing battles as he. Does the scores. Seventeen all heading into sudden death overtime. Jerry desperately wants a chance to score on Dion but the cowboys get the ball and quickly drive to get near Field Goal Range as Jerry watches. There's this ethin- dion playing offense at his position and there's nothing he can do about it. Diaz catch sets up a field goal. Try to work. AH OVER AMID THE POST game scrum of players coaches and Media Dion and Jerry. Jog Out to the field directly at each other cameraman surround them anticipating drama instead there witness witness to a deeply personal moment one rooted in mutual and long lasting respect jerry and dion embrace. 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Lounge wear reimagined. Words don't do justice you just you have to check it out. All I can tell you is after giving my dad. The post-shave do there's just there's a spring in his step after he cleans his face. It's it's pretty remarkable to see so. Check out dollar Shave Club. Holiday Gift Selection Right now at dollarshaveclub dot com slash sports wars order before or December eighteenth to arrive by the twenty fourth with free shipping. These gift sets are limited and will sell out that's dollarshaveclub dot com slash supports wars dollarshaveclub dot com slash sports wars. It's May nineteen ninety seven six months later. Dion is driving his Mercedes down on an interstate near the Ohio Kentucky border. It's the middle of the night. He's here specifically because he's playing baseball again for the nearby Cincinnati reds leads with his two super bowls. Unique athletic gifts money and fame. Dion should feel on top of the world instead he feels empty. He's lonely. He felt this way in San Francisco to after the Super Bowl. Win in Miami. Dion didn't party. He went straight to bed. Ed for Awhile. He's been trying to fill this emptiness with more gold and diamonds more women more cars more designer clothes and more endorsements nothing. Nothing has helped. Dion thought that once he signed his thirty five million dollar cowboys contract and after he helped another team get over the top and win a super purple. Then he'd be happy but still. He felt something huge missing now he pulls his car to the side of the road and looks down wooden cliff. He hasn't slept for days. He's disoriented his wife. Caroline recently filed for divorced and gained custody of their kids. Dan is constantly ashamed for not being faithful to his marriage. He thinks about his father. Daddy Buck who died of cancer in nineteen ninety-three he he was never there for Dion and Dion won't be there for his kids. Dion falls deeper into despair. He starts sobbing yelling at himself himself. He writes a suicide note and a will then. He floors the gas pedal of his Mercedes. And accelerates off the cliff mm-hmm it's September twenty first nineteen ninety eight at Giants Stadium in New Jersey. The cowboys are playing the giants on Monday Night Football Dion Sanders enters through the stadium tunnel and spots a heckler. Miraculously Dion survive to suicide attempt last year. His car landed at the bottom of an embankment in shallow water. He walked away unscathed scape almost immediately after dion found religion and vowed to change his ways since then dion has transformed his life. He's stopped hanging out in nightclubs donated a million dollars to his church and post a weekly Bible. Study in suburban Dallas called. What else but primetime time Tuesday's he also regularly visits a nursing home to meet with lonely residents? It's the second quarter Dion awaits upon on a line I by sanders started her. Quarter Guy Territory leaving I I in the fourth quarter. He's playing cornerback. Diab looks at the receiver across from him and says God is good. Amy The receivers confused after years of watching Dion. Talk Trash Nash. Grab Jam and get under the skin of guys like Jerry Rice. They don't know how to react to this new when the ball is snapped though he still plays like like old risk by Sander's store it for the next two seasons dion remains locked in as an an exciting all-purpose pro bowl caliber player for the cowboys. Then in two thousand he suddenly is old Dion but not in a good way after being cut by the cowboys for financial reasons he signs a long term deal with Washington where he plays for one season before retiring suddenly amid turmoil with the team four years later though in two thousand four he decides to come out of retirement and joins the Ravens for two seasons than retires for good at age thirty seven. It's January twenty third. Two thousand three at QUALCOMM stadium in San Diego at Super Bowl thirty seven Jerry. Rice is wearing a white silver and Black Oakland raiders uniform. No one not even Jerry. Thought he'd be here about to play in his fourth fourth super bowl six years ago coming off another all pro season and leading the league in catches with his niners. Jerry tore his ACL a devastating knee. Injury jury lying on the field. Jerry thought his career was over but then three months after surgery he saw off his cast and amazingly mazing Lee returned. Usually recovery for this is a year plus still both Jerry and the niners had subpar seasons in one thousand nine hundred nine and in two thousand and the team no longer wanted to be saddled with Jerry's hefty salary and not so hefty production. This was crazy to Jerry. After after everything he'd done for the franchise. This is how it's going to end after watching guys like dion get paid a fortune. While he played for less money was was the issue. So Jerry did something unthinkable. He joined the Cross town. Oakland raiders the result at incredible resurgence. Though though maybe not totally surprising to people who know Jerry Rice in two thousand two jerry finished with ninety two catches over twelve hundred receiving yards and made the pro bowl all at age forty so nearly a decade since Jerry won his last super bowl. He's back on. FOOTBALL'S BALLS BIGGEST STAGE TRAILING TAMPA BAY thirty four to fifteen in the fourth quarter raiders quarterback rich Gannon looks to throw it forty eight yards this but it wouldn't be enough the bucks easily. Take down the raiders. Forty eight to twenty one but Jerry. Jerry Rice keeps on working and keeps chasing wins in two thousand four. He's traded to Seattle for an unremarkable year and then in two thousand five five attends broncos training camp. He's forty two years old now unprecedented for an NFL wide receiver and for good reason. His explosiveness has has faded. And he's having trouble getting open. The wideout who beats him for the final receiver position in Denver grew up with Jerry Rice poster on his bedroom room wall so after decades in the NFL. Jerry sees the writing on his wall. He hangs up his cleats. This time for good. It's August seventh. Two Thousand Ten in Canton Ohio Jerry. Rice is onstage for his induction into the pro football hall of fame. He feels immense pride but looking out at the crowd. Jerry feels an absence his father Joe who taught hot him hard work and how to catch bricks who jerry was always terrified of letting down passed away a few years ago the last time Jerry saw him Jerry Toll Joe Oh that he loved him. He gathers himself and delivers his speech. This is finally it. There are no more rows to run. You know more touchdown to store no more records to set that. Young boy from Mississippi has finally stopped running. Aw whether your reaction is excellent or I caramba. This is is definitely some exciting news. 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It's all there all the songs everything springfield is they're are all the iconic moments now available Disney plus in the United States. So get excited because you can stream the first thirty seasons of the simpsons and so so much more right now when you subscribe on Disney plus a year later on the same stage dion gets his turn being enshrined into the Hall of Fame Hall of famous. I am so privileged so thankful to be amongst you 'cause I was trick or treating and it when even Halloween because all the things you really thought I was some of the things you didn't like you didn't love you didn't want except I was doing from a mom thank you. It's January twenty fourteen Jerry. Rice and Dion Sanders are long established as living legends. Nfl God's the best at their positions ever they've each got super bowl rings and hall of fame. Aim Gold Jackets. But they can't stop trying to one up each other even in silly ways dion hit send on a tweet that reads ladies and gentlemen. I am officially announcing I will suit up in Hawaii. Please let Jerry Rice know that a real captain leads by example. Shortly after the tweet Jerry tweets back dion. I would beat you down like the old days we can suit up but it would be very painful for you. Fans see the tweets confused are they serious an NFL spokesperson clarifies their honorary captains at the pro bowl. Neither guy is playing but they are selecting teams teams and on the sidelines as rivals days later in Hawaii Deanne Jerry are sitting beside each other both have smooth booths shaved heads and a relaxed looking. Jerry is wearing shades. Dion Looks Jerry quizzically. Jerry seems less uptight others are starting to notice. What is this too? He seems to be embracing his celebrity having more fun for instance former teammates and opposing players alike recently watched their TV's with astonishment as Jerry appeared on dancing with the stars wearing bell bottoms and an Afro Wig. Jerry performed the cha-cha in front of the world world cheering him on from the front row of the audience was his wife. Jackie who had long since made a full recovery as he danced Jerry blew her a kiss incredibly. He made the finals because of course he did. Jerry doesn't take any competition lightly rice. The retired receiver also notices a different Dion. His is flashy smile and presence of showman still remain but he seems more mature more reserve since retiring Diaz has been involved with Youth Football. Oh his church and has worked as a TV analyst on the NFL network now. Dion and Jerry reminisce about their battles. Dion admits to Jerry that he hated did playing against him. Jerry smiles but quickly hides it later Jerry and Dionne appear on stage for a coin flip to begin selecting players for the proble and despite despite the relaxed moments they shared. Even that gets weirdly competitive. It's all an act to generate interest for the proble. But there's an edge to the ribbing you I wonder if they're actually joking dion says get the call heads or tails corn tells the and the show begins from there. Jerry's a little nervous. He's really not sure of himself. Asia faking anger like a pro wrestler. Jerry gets and Diaz face. Dion won't even look at Gerry host. Yeah Okay Smarter you should this is going to be great. is going to be entertaining. And we're going to bring their true real competitive headed the spirit back to the game and do not rule out the Jerry and I will play in the game how I see it right now because we have not heard from commissioner goodell on if I can't participate on no budget aged but I don't know but if worst come the worst this is what I'm thinking instead of having a coin. Toss guys to see who received the kickoff. Although we can do that we can do that right now. Why don't we just go one on watch? Jerry's in space stands tall puffing out his chest and if he catches the ball team what you might get it back to the House we get it on it beginning of the game and have when the pro bowl game finally kicks off Jerry wears a backwards visor and a number Eighty Jersey Dion wearing number twenty one has grown out of white beard. They they definitely look different from their playing selves. But the rivals from the nineties can't shake their competitive streets the game see-saws back and forth a touchdown soundbite team rice in the final seconds cuts team Sanders. Lead to twenty one twenty Jerry decides to go for two to win it here and now and it's good tim. Rice wins. Twenty two to twenty one. Dion looks shellshocked. Jerry dashes onto the field waving towel and jumping up and down of everything he's accomplished professionally. The Super Bowl's in awards his College Stadium and Mississippi being named after him achieving legendary status as perhaps the greatest player player ever. 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Make Your Moment with Dion Lim

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44:25 min | 11 months ago

Make Your Moment with Dion Lim

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I mean we thought we'd have everything together by the time winner thirties and we woke up today. And we don't and we don't definitely don't but I also feel there are elements out of our control that are also affecting it. But what do you think i. I don't know you know. My Day started with a dog vomiting all over the back of my car while my toddler was also back there. So you know you would think it could only go uphill from there but it just kind of gets a little crazier yeah. There's there are many many factors that contributed to today and including during our interview with Dion. Lim who we have on the podcast today. She's incredibly amazing. She but during that interview the power went out. Yep so you'll hear that as well but that's okay because Dion Lim is an Emmy Award winning news anchor for ABC in San Francisco. She's also a public speaker and a communications expert. So if anyone knows how to roll with the punches it is definitely Dion Lam and she is here to talk about her new book. It's called make your moment. The Savvy Woman's communication playbook for getting the success you want and that is what we need today Dion Land we do and you know. She has an awesome quote in her book. As women we are constantly told to speak up lean and be a bad ass. We absolutely absolutely should we must but we have to execute these things in the right way and that is what I love about her book. She has all these things talking about how we should execute communication Haitian. When is a time candice that you completely botched something that you thought you would absolutely kill? I mean for me. It's not so much that I feel like I've completely -pletely botched something. I get a lot of anxiety like social anxieties. I mean say a lot on this podcast. Don't meet your heroes and that's really just for me 'cause usually whenever I do it it goes horribly wrong Because I stick my foot in my mouth or like I my favorite was Back in Atlanta When we were still filming Vampire Empire Diaries One of our co workers had been doing a play with a really successful actor and We were all going out to dinner like a big group of us us. And so I was chatting with this actor and And they just so happen to like work on shows that I really loved rather trying to like keep it cool and he was like. Oh so would you guys do today and I like oh I went to a movie and it was like which one I said the name of the movie and I was like it was like so bad. Was He in it. Yeah Yeah that's my movie. You just didn't put two and onto together no because also everyone was talking about how bad the movie was okay. Maybe we'll suicide squad okay. So who was the actor. I don't WanNa say it does just a general actor in the movie suicide squad and Mel is really biting her lips right now. I did personally. Didn't enjoy the movie and I wasn't trying to be offensive but then that was kind of the end of the Congress in mouth experience. How do you like come back from that? I don't like to actually just kidding. Like that was is just like the review. I haven't written my full review yet. I was just trying to get no it. Was it that that's usually what happens like when I get intimidated. I say the wrong thing so I'm excited to have dion here today because I don't I am that person who will hide out at parties. Like you kind of see I. I'm a corner Gal I do yeah. Candice is more comfortable on the cool kids corner which is awesome. And I'm Kinda be bopping around the party. I always love it because I know exactly where you'll be the whole night so I can come check in and anytime. I don't don't know what what else to do. I'm like oh I can go back to my safe zone but you guys. Dion has so many great tips to success and her book is fantastic so without further ado. Let's just get straight into it with Dion theon limb and we are here Dion Lim. We're so excited to here with us today. This has been a long time coming. I mean I kind of reached out like months and months and months ago there was no physical book. I think I had a postcard which was super lame. And I emailed it to your producers minnows. It's not like okay. Hail Mary. Let's see what happens. Well we're so excited to have you here now. You actually do have a book. Make your moment. The Savvy Woman's communication playbook book forgetting the success you want. This book is good. Oh the lot that everyone can utilize when no matter where you are in your life. I mean we have been through so so many different work situations and I wish I had read this because I would have handled them really differently. You know something though all of the mistakes that I made and maybe you share the same. All the mistakes that you made in a prior life actually really helped shape who you are today so take it for the win very true. Let's talk about how you grew up because I love how you reference your Mama's Tiger Balm then your your dad also didn't necessarily know how to relate tune Americanized teenager boat. was that like. It was so strange because in in a way even though I had an older brother I have an older brother it was almost like I was an only child because my parents grew up super strict. I mean it was all about studying and work nonstop because that was the way to success. Keep your head down and your nose clean. And that was the formula. But that's not how rehired is so any any boy problems any drama at school not my parents problem for them. It was just focus on academics. You should just figure out the rest yourself and you don't have have a mentor or someone to go to and that was really challenging. Where are your parents from? Oh my mom's from Taiwan and my dad's from Hong Kong. Yeah and then were you born here. I was born in Midland Michigan and I think we were probably one of only a handful of Asian people in our neighborhood and I remember people had thrown eggs at my parents windows. It was I mean we forget living in California what it's really like in other parts of the country and you talk about bringing pork buns the school in your lunchbox and how everyone else may be had peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and so being different wasn't necessarily celebrated and but that really drove you to try A.. And grow and work really hard to become successful woman that you are today. -solutely fantastic thank you. Imagine going to school or we're going to work and bringing food and then having people ask. Is that Panda Express. Is that Campbell's chicken noodle soup but it looks funny. What do you say and that is is one of the examples? I use of needing to really figure out how to respond. Because you know of course in your six year old brain your fifteen year old brain your twenty year old brain. Your your instinct is to immediately snap or to do those knee-jerk reactions which as we've now learned don't always solve the problem. Did your parents prince give you any advice. At that time I guess not at six years old at six years old. They're just comforting new. I'm sure trying to figure out what to say. But is there any moment that sticks out where they were trying to guide you through that or are they trying to figure it out for themselves as well okay. There was no comfort in this house. It was more like you know in elementary school in the United States. If you skin skin your knee and you fall down to the playground you get an ice pack at the nurse. Might maybe your nurse will give you some candy. No no no no no I remember. I stuck my finger in a Bagel and sliced my finger and and there was no comfort. My Mom said figure it out. You'll be fine and here. I am as a child so I had to navigate all of it myself and oftentimes I would reach out out to people. I probably shouldn't have. And that's how he learned about feedback and how I learned about getting advice from others and how you know you really have to be careful with how you accept feedback back in how you seek guidance and in this you talked about standing up for ourselves in the right way which I think is really key because we're always told to stand up for ourselves but then there is a right and a wrong way. Can you expand on that for our listeners who we have lots of goods and that's been a lot of the fun too. Is that people get to see. See the behind the scenes. Because I mean everyone's seen anchorman right. Stay classy San Diego. Yeah you know what. That's actually one of the good examples that I'm gonNA give you that. I stole my a anchor. My Co anchors tagline and I've had many co anchors so I shall not name which one on this one was you know maybe mid way through my career so far and boy to a male co anchor. This particular one the tagline. was everything everything so as you can imagine. Let's say it was. That'll be a dead giveaway. You would murder me and stolen and then in front of everyone. It was just an accident because you can't trademark goodbye right. He said how dare you say that. How dare you take my words? I thought to myself itself. Oh well I didn't know you own the trademark to good night so here I am in front of all of these people feeling humiliated because of course I'm the youngest out of everyone there so I'm already feeling intimidated. And I decided to deploy something but I call gloss and go where I love it and we're not talking about the loss. I thought we were going. We could but really I just glossed it over. I told a funny story and go meaning I just kept on talking about something totally different. I did a hard right turn and believe it or not because everyone else is thinking the same thing that this man baby is having a Tantrum that they're of course not going to play into it either either so they just want to get the heck out of Dodge and talk about something else I give up. You're only as good as your last newscast hassle. Just keep on going. We've lost him gloss. Going just turned off. We remember what we what the last no. I think. We're practicing it right now where you are living in a gloss and go okay so but the you you don't WanNa feed into the chaos that someone might bring into you or feed into the electricity suddenly just going off in the middle of this guy. So what I know about becoming a news anchor. I've have learned everything from a movie called up close and personal. Yeah that's about it. Did you always know that you wanted to be news. Anchor is something you aspired to be. Yeah great great question. Yes and no so of course growing up in this very traditional Chinese household it was all about math and science and chemistry and being an attorney all things that I have no no interest in whatsoever and I also realized I was not the best student in school. I am still not the smart. Smartest the brightest or the most skilled and I realized I really enjoyed learning about other people's lives because I found my life to be so boring and uninteresting and had such bad self esteem. So how cool. Who Was it? The opportunity to then learn about other people's stories than share them with the world and for me. I also learned how to speak proper English by watching. ABC's twenty twenty. Twenty with Hugh downs and Barbara Walters. So like all these kids at my school were watching saved by the bell and shows like that and here. I am watching the news. It does feel like it's come full circle you now working at ABC mom was one tiger. Mom feel extremely proud of you because now she watches you. It's it's so cool. She's actually in Connecticut. And she streams all of my newscasts. She has not missed one of them with the time difference. If I'm anchoring the eleven o'clock newscast she will stay up to the wee hours of the morning. Wow Yeah. And that's her way of communicating that she does love me because even though she has that tiger mom in her still where she's never actually he said those three words to me not naming. I love you because she was actually given away as a child. Because being a girl in Communist China you know you're not welcome. She was given away to another family so she never had that love and that type of atmosphere and was never taught to nurture correct. Wow is this something you've ever brought up to her you know she's super reticent to talk about any of her past and I think that's partially a cultural thing in but it's also dredging up all these bad memories for her and even in her seventies. It's hard for her to talk about these things. Kinda shut down and that also helped prompt me want want to write the book because here we are having this internal struggle of communicating and we learned that The way we communicate is just different than other moms. I wanted a mom who who would take me shopping. Do Man's pettis all of that fun stuff now. It's her sending me emails and photos of what she made for dinner. And that's okay. Hey I've come to terms with that and that was part of the communication journey. How when did you kind of have that moment where you started to look inside yourself and be able to separate those things and learn that? She has a specific love language. Even if it wasn't matching how a tradition like how you would see maybe your friends or other people interacting acting with their parents. It took a really long time and actually TV helped me as social media started rising and we weren't just doing a newscast anymore and that we are now told the tweet and facebook and instagram. All of this. It was probably when I was in Kansas City going transitioning to my job in Charlotte. She would send me emails and her English was stolen. Little broken and I would be so embarrassed by it and I said Oh my Gosh I would never let anybody see any of this growing up. I always wanted to be the white kid because I always thought this is the sound shameful but it always to me would be better to be the white kid even ugly white kid than to be Chinese but but in one particular email. It was Easter and she wanted to wish me a happy Easter so she had gotten a laundry basket a wicker laundry basket and filled with eggs dozens and dozens of chicken eggs. She didn't know that Easter baskets were just started laughing and grinding. And I just thought my goodness in is this is hilarious and I posted it on my social media and hundreds and hundreds of people responded saying how cool your mom is the best. That's so sweet. And I had a breakthrough through one of those moments where I realized you know what I should be proud of my mom. She sacrificed everything for me. I almost want to cry now about it. She clearly went through so much that she doesn't even want to discuss some of her childhood with you so for her to try her best. And if that's a giant basket of egg or whatever I mean it really is I I think as sweet as it can get and she's clearly trying which I think in a relationship like that just even showing effort is what you want and even if you don't ever get the three words that mean ally. Her three words are a bath. Today it was funny another holiday season. She sent me a picture of et. And and I said why did you send me. Ut and she said because et phone home phone home. How do you not fall in love with that? Ah well played mom. Yeah well play. That's score wive car. I loved it. I mean you talk about having a mother that might not be like. She's communicating to you very often with words But you are a huge communicator. Beyond just like the title of Your Book You do public speaking constantly on the news like that's the I don't understand how all of a sudden I would assume the little red light goes on the cameras on and then you have to tell very clearly clearly what is going on. I think what's interesting about. You is how you discuss that guests. You're really good once the red lights on. But that when it's off sometimes it is hard for you'd be in those big crowds and be a part of that because you wouldn't expect that no and in that sixteen by nine box. Everything looked so perfect right the hair and the makeup in the lighting. Everything is on point but early in my career. I remember this very vividly. And it's a little secret but I would hide in the bathroom stall aw at networking events or at social functions. And I thought I had an anxiety disorder I would be on my phone playing text. Twist or candy crush or whatever the game was just to kill time and to calm myself down so yeah it was. It feels like a little bit of a miracle. But it's through that communication and making these tiny moments things like like how to react to others because I was terrified of networking because of the small talk small talk so contrived but I realized why. Don't we do at our own own way. You can do it in non-conventional ways like oh here's a three and a half pound Sour Patch kid which you brought to us today. It's it's the best of his showed up with. It's probably is three and a half feet long. We will post the photo on ours stories so you can see. It is accused and Kansas and I met over Sour Patch. Kids were on the news discussing it and so she decided to bring it in and he's such a good ice rights. 'cause small talk is very hard. What do you do if you like at an event space where you have to have that small Tucker? You see someone where you're like. Oh I really wanted to work with this person or I've wanted to you know. Meet with them. How do you? How do you make that? An icebreaker run questioned wine on like in middle school. Were you have your crime. Just happened to pick something up nearby you tripping executive. That's how it works. Yeah breaking a neck too. Yeah that's the way to success. It really varies. So one of the techniques that I kind of developed was the lowest common denominator. I it sounds so basic right. But let's say you are At a networking event. And you were really WanNa talk to an executive and it's kind of like networking up out of your league. Well some look at the space around you is absolutely gorgeous. Are the centerpieces something that you want to take home. Can you make a comment like that. Saying oh gosh. I wonder if they'll let me have one of those at the end of the night. Because you're being authentic Bendik because you really are wondering this and to be honest with you. She can see she he or she can see the centerpiece to so there. You can have a common bond or you could do a compliment it sounds so contrived but really if you genuinely like someone's pants or someone's shirt. I love your shirt. Where did you get it? And that often opens the door to so. It's all about finding me that little nugget if something's really good because you do find yourself in situations where you just don't know what to say anything but it does. The lowest common common denominator really rang true with me because there are so many times when I find myself in situations where there isn't much to talk about the basics go to the basics right and and I remember there. Was this Hollywood starlet. I shall not name who had a brand new show and she had come on the our newscast to talk about it and for some reason she and her entourage Arosh. Were not warming up to me. You know the feeling when they're not smiling back or they're giving you one word answers and I just thought what am I going to do to break through. I just looked at her and and I noticed her makeup was super on point she had been going all day on tour for her new show and I just said who did your makeup because I love it and she then burst burst out laughing and became so animated. She had hired this person from instagram. When she had touched ground down in San Francisco and I thought how cool is that that opened? Open the door to crazy things you see on instagram which then led to influencers and a whole conversation. It was cool cool thing that resulted from a compliment. That's I read your blog post where you were talking about how you're writing at a coffee shop and in you needed someone to watch her laptop and then you came back and they need you to watch watch there's and and and then all of a sudden you notice that they were having a meeting with a very prominent person who you did not name but they it someone that you we've been interested in wanted to work with and just wanted to know and how you waited for that moment to not join there. I was like I don't know how I'd handle that situation. 'cause I'm Emma Hyder. I will hide in the bathroom. Hide in the corner at the party. But you you were talking this blog post about how you essentially naturally kind of join their conversation and we're able to exchange exchange cards. Is that something you do often and winded you kind of get the courage to do that. Yeah the chutzpah comes from mcbean in this profession because think about it there's breaking news and here are people at their most vulnerable or their most emotional and for your store you kind of have to approach them them so for example the wildfires that happened last year I was down in southern California for those and here are people just meandering in the streets. They're closer Sir all burned and you have to approach them so for my job I forced myself to do it and that kind of bled over to everyday life and I realized you know what it's actually not that that scary at all because if you just strike up a conversation you never know what's going to happen and it also plays true to you never know who is going to be who one day you never know if your intern is going to be your boss or who knows who and who knows what and you say can act and keep up with everyone and those smart because it is true you never know and I think sometimes people just naturally only try to keep up with those who are quote unquote important right now but men people skyrocket and you just never know so that such great business business advice and he's always a squeaky wheel to bother them or like me. We don't know each other that well. I think that's when you utilize the the lowest common denominator in figuring out something that you do. You have in common with them but it can get really difficult it really can. But if you're in a coffee shop for example example. The line is out the door. I mean everybody agrees. Wow this is going to take forever. That tiny sometimes or if somebody's talking about something totally unexpected that you know nothing about I give the example of. I have a coworker who loves airplanes. I know nothing about airplanes. But we've all been on a plane before. And what do we it dislike about planes. What's a pet peeve is how the people in front of you recline and then you have no legroom so oftentimes? I'll mention something like that. And then that convinced segue to something something. Hey guys we're gonNA take a quick break. We'll be right back in just a minute. Native create safe simple effective products that people use everyday their products are filled. Both trusted ingredients and their natural deodorant is no different native. Deodorant is formulated without aluminum. 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The third person in a conversation feels like the outcast. I never wanted them to feel excluded. So it's using those physical keys like making Mike contact with the room. You're having a conversation with everyone. And in TV all of the TV consultants will tell anchors in the beginning of their career. You're having a conversation with the camera. The audience is the third person. So you're looking at your co anchor. You're looking at them and you're engaging with them you're putting your body toward them and visually that then opens opens the door to them to want to contribute to the conversation that makes so much that I love that. At what point were you on screen like does it get hired at it and newsroom and then all of a sudden you kind of wait for your shot or do they kind of just like throw in there. It can happen all ways. It's a little bananas China's for me. I randomly had one guy one vice president of news in Kansas City at the number one. ABC affiliate at the time. See See me I was a reporter in small podunk western Massachusetts in probably a bureau the size of a shoebox and said. Let's give her a shot. At anchoring I knew nothing about Kansas City is it in Kansas. Is it in Missouri and I just went and dove right in but my big break going Monday through Friday becoming a morning anchor the first one at that station in Kansas City to be Asian American phenomenon. Thank you I wear it now. As a badge of pride I did not for a very long untimely. Yeah why not do you think you know I 'cause I always felt like the outcast and I just thought my goodness everyone has different political views than I do. Everyone you know their spare time is taken up by making checks mix and other things and I just felt like Gosh. I cannot wait to get back to Somewhere on the coast where there are more people who look like me and but I realized that you have a lot of power and a lot of opportunity and that's kind of what I've tried to do you with this book. Yeah but but for me. It was the big break of I came to work ready and in makeup When everyone else was disheveled the early in the morning because I was doing weekend mornings and then reporting during the week and suddenly the regular anchor had gotten a case of Vertigo and had to leave? Somebody looked around the newsroom. Nobody was ready but me and I just said okay. Let's go do it and I I guess it worked out because then I got a promotion not too long after. Yeah clearly. We're given the chance and you were ready for it. Exactly you practice for that. DUPRAT is like standing in front of a mirror. Do you like. I just can't imagine being like Oh they get in there and a- and tell us what's going on. I know well in the beginning when I was a child. I had a toothbrush and it would be microphone and I would make my voice really deep. It was ridiculous and I thought imitation is the best form of flattery. Because that's what you're always told as women to do so when I got to Kansas City I wore these suits. They're big and boxy. I like big and boxy trendy and they were in these horrible cuts black Brown grey and if we were feeling fancy we'd wear a red suit and then I was just this FEC similarly of a news anchor like I wasn't me. I was so uncomfortable. My arms would be you know up to my ears because I was feeling restricted and that was a direct reflection on how I communicated to myself because the into the audience because you're optics and how you feel is is everything anything you also talk about learning to read other people's body language and I think that's important especially if you're out on the street trying to figure out who will talk to you and who won't what are some of the key elements elements you look for for me in someone to know if they're approachable or you know what a lot of it is the eye contact again right and then also are turning. Hang their head a certain way because honestly if I'm looking past you or slightly through you then that means I'm going to dodge you like the plague and and that's one of the ways and it's also like in. Oh this is good when you see somebody that you know in a work environment and you're walking down the hallway and you don't know if you're supposed to say hi or not not just go for it and just say hi and smile a big toothy smile and you'd be surprised how many people can deny at least another. Hey or a wave to someone when who's smiling directly at them you most often times. I'll get a yes a something that happens in l. a. a lot socially I'm sure shirt happens everywhere but it really feels like it happens a lot here especially where it turns into like a competition in conversation where it's like way. So what what do you do in like. Oh you know it just turns into like. Oh we'll do you know this person. I I was just doing this or it's also. Have you read this article have have you read this. Have you watched this movie. Your right. It's in Andhra suck. I just don't want to even engage and then I realized that even if it's suppose if it's someone who may be is in the same business and I want to try to engage but I just get exhausted by this like not meeting up to whatever or they're trying to like put out there which I know has nothing to do with me. It's usually like their own issues at their tiger so much but just trying to like make it through that conversation sort of wanting into just shut down and be like. I don't want to have to deal with this person so I'm just going to excuse myself from the situation. How do you embrace the situation without losing your mind? I love your bluntness in your hand. I think that's what you'll get a lot in my book to. I'm very brutally honest. Well first and foremost these types of people clearly clearly have not looked and communicated with themselves because I remember early in my career. I felt the need for competition. Everything was a competition growing up. It was who who has the best math grades. Whose wife is the prettiest things like that and when I realized that I had my own unique talents and traits and things to offer the world? It didn't become a competition. It was a conversation so maybe instead if you get sucked into that Tornado of someone whose name dropping and kind of you know trying to make you engage in in that and you don't want to maybe you can change the subject or ask them a question that puts a stop to it. Oh did you. I went to a party with Brad. Pitt Oh I saw his last movie. It was great. What did you think of it? And that then stops it and kind of moves it very subtly while still making that person feel like oh they're engaged aged asked me a question so they must care see four sometimes. Can you just excuse yourself and go to the bathroom. Yeah that's possible. I'm going to start talking about Brad. Pet Be my new go-to always it's going to be the Brad Pitt. Love at your book is out. You talk about also also just like a and I love you referred to zip it zip it good which is great. But there's so much to be learned when you just don't speak and listen yes. How did you learn to do that? Because as a reporter listening is everything people always get intimidated by asking questions. Oh Am I going to have enough questions to ask. Ask to be honest if you plan a little bit too much. It's not good because when you start to listen to someone story that's when they come alive and you'll pick up on automatic matic questions to ask him to follow up on. I remember there was a story about. Oh this was great she was an NBA dancer and she had her laptop stolen in it was caught on camera and and she chased after the bad guy wrestled him and got her laptop back but at the time I had no idea she was an NBA dancer. So here she is telling me her story and she just mentioned. Oh Yeah I dance right. You know that's why I'm in workout clothes and I thought wait a second. She just said dance Where where'd did you dance? Do you dance recreationally no I danced for the NBA was just so cool because that made the story that made a magic moment because everyone wants to know wile who's the one who just wrestled this dude to the ground twice her size a while. Yeah that's great. Yeah and it makes also people feel good to that. You're engaged in and and it shows that you care what other do. What are some of the craziest news stories? You reported on especially because used the report in Florida. We were talking talking about earlier. Oh Yeah Florida is a totally other animal no pun intended. But it's funny because being in this bay area San Francisco Bay area verses versus of that Bay Tampa Bay. There were a lot of animal stories a lot of like people on synthetic marijuana. I remember there was one naked naked guy high out of his mind on a bicycle going through Taco Bell drive-thru. Can you imagine having to keep a straight face during the news trying to report that but that was every week there was something like that. I mean that poor boy who got eaten by gator ride or a gator. That's on a golf course. Wow look at that the only so many times. Take a look at this video. While can you believe that. So I think those are all pretty crazy This one maybe not so much salacious but do you remember about a year ago. There were all of these stories about people behaving badly and they were caught on camera and oftentimes oftentimes. They were racially charged stories like backyard. Becky and watered-down Wanda And they all had these alliterate type nicknames and I remember I camped out out side. This one woman's apartment complex for hours trying to get me to talk because she was the one who allegedly called the cops on a young black girl girl who was selling water outside and I remember I did everything I texted. I called I badgered her to try and get an interview and she she alternately gave it to CNN instead and she should have talked to me because because she denied me are stationed. All the other stations kept on pushing Zhang and unearth more dirt on her and she ended up resigning from her job. So just all these bananas situations that you get thrown into how. Yeah Yeah Okay so you talk about intelligent courage on Union your book and I really love this because I think it's such a wonderful way to talk about standing up for yourself and I know with all the Hashtag metoo in all this stuff happening that sticking up for yourself is such an important thing to do but people are scared to do it because we don't know about retaliation so give us some tips that we can use for those listening and for us as well. How do we stay? Have the courage to do it but then also make sure we're doing it correctly. Yeah that's the big. If you're always will there are a few techniques that I would deploy one is. Can you stand up in steps and I mean you don't have to go straight to the top. I used to be one of those. Hr Taylor's all the time and that brandon me a tattletale and that never accomplished anything. But I remember very specifically there was someone that I worked with WHO would call very seasoned talented veteran reporters girl like girl. And this was someone in a managerial position and I don't think he. I meant it in a malicious way. I think he meant it as hey girl you know just go do that but you would never say hey boy to someone if it was a man Dan so while everybody in the newsroom just kind of let it pass I just said Hey. She's a woman. Don't forget that. And that's aw kind of in an off off the cuff very nonchalant way and it actually was heard loud and clear so I would that would be the first step Another either way would be finding your ally and the way that you can do. That is not going around to other people saying hey did you hear so. and So said this and this because that doesn't help because what if they didn't and then there will definitely be retaliation and the other person will know but in a roundabout way. Can you say I hate it. When nicknames and pet names are used in the workplace don't you and then if the answer is yes and then they'll open up using those other listening techniques they'll say yeah actually so and so called me cupcake the other day Eh and then you realize that there are other people who experienced the same thing that you do and together then you can collectively get together and make change? And I think that's something that we as women want to do but we just don't know how to navigate that I think that there were so many just such a long period of time. I'm where it was just taught like. Hey you should be lucky as a woman to even get this opportunity. You know what I mean because it's still I mean the fact that my mom and the eighties is one of four women in her class to graduate To get her degree to become an engineer. Wow so it was just like it is it has been shifting and and so I think that there is also that element of like wool as women. We don't want to rock the boat and that we don't have to worry about that anymore. It's like it's okay. We don't it doesn't have to be like you know. Don't talk about it and if it makes you uncomfortable don't rock the boat. It's like no you know. Actually I can. I can be uncomfortable uncomfortable with something in it. That's not like starting that's not rocking the boat. That's just being myself and wanting respect and you get that courage I think through the repetition Titian of it. I remember there was a manager. Who told me you'll never get a job as good as the one you have and at the time I broke down in tears excused myself and it was ugly mess but if someone said that to me today I'd probably say watch me and see what happens because in that case when that manager told me I wouldn't get a better job? I got one that paid almost double in a much bigger cities. So shows you know shows shows them fabulous. I love it. Yeah so what is there any the final word of advice you would have for our listeners. Who are trying to make it in the corporate world and it's a tough one to make it in? I'm envisioning joining black. Suits right now and trying to conform this board room. I would say just be sure that you can get your authentic self out there and sometimes I'll get questions questions like oh but I have to wear this uniform to work. Yeah you have to wear a uniform but can you do something with your hair. Can you make a trademark for yourself. I always wear these bright colors that are in solids wherever I go. And that's become kind of my niche in. That made me a moment for myself where I was able to stand out. Can you make a way for you to stand out where you are yourself self and no matter what situation you're in you'll be okay. I promise that's such great advice. I love it thank you. You're more than OK today. You brought it all case including a giant Sarah Pouch kid that we're gonNA start eating right after this done. Thank you for joining us in our listeners owners Find you on social media. Oh I love it. My handles on instagram twitter. facebook are all Dion Lim. TV D. I o.. N. EM TV and my book is out in stores now in on Amazon. Love you so much. Thank you Kayla. Guess do you feel better. I do honestly. I think that she has so many tips and tricks. And you know how I love the simpsons those tips and try one of the things that I know I'm going to implement is the Zip Zip code which is like just don't always always have to talk. You can listen you can be you know is open mouth shut really taking your surroundings understand who. You're going to talk to before you talk to them. That's something I don't know if I'd do enough in life I kinda just come in like a tornado and start talking in takeover and so I'm going to try to do a little bit more of that in all aspects of my life. Not just I work because I think that would be good for me to do how about you want to get better at small talk. I want to be able to walk up to someone even if it's on a party or event but even if it's just someone that I admire Meyer their work and be okay just saying hey I I really love what you do and that's great and and be comfortable with just engaging in conversation with people I don't WanNa to hide behind my phone all the time and I don't WANNA hide out in corners all the time I want to you know be more comfortable with just accepting myself in any social situation and you can use the lowest common denominator thing which isn't really cool. I'm GonNa Start Brad Brad pivoting all the time. I think that's GonNa be my new thing. I love when I stick my foot in my mouth. I'm going to be like sorry Brad Pivot and change the subject. I love it to Brad Pitt. Right always always I love it and then a brad had pivot right to Brad Pitt. 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America's Economic Confusion

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America's Economic Confusion

"Welcome back is Barada a podcast takes just ten minutes to get you smarter on the collision of tech business and politics. I'm Deborah MAC on today's show a big mystery and crypto land in a former Trump campaign advisor takes on axios. The first America's economic confusion. President Trump tonight will give his belated state of the union address during which he is almost certain to America's economic success under his watch jobs numbers and GDP and manufacturing data and holiday retail sales. It's cetera, etc. But he'll be patting himself on the back in front of a congress whose constituents both Republican and democrat are increasingly worried that the boom times of peaked small business owner confidence for example has fallen for four straight months. Consumer confidence is also down and Wall Street analysts keep lowering earnings expectations, particularly they realized that last year's sugar high from the tax cuts has largely worn off in short the statistics. And the sentiments aren't matching up and there's growing concern among the communists that America might essentially talk itself into a recession particularly through things like decree. Business and consumer spending again, not because of actual economic pain. But because it just kind of feels like there should be some it has been so long since we've had bad times. Now Trump obviously won't mention that divergence tonight, but he might have no choice come next year state of the union in fifteen seconds. We'll go deeper with axios markets editor Dion Rohan, but first this axiom chief technology correspondent Dana free shares. Breaking news and analysis on the most consequential companies in players in tech from the valley to DC subscribe to get smarter faster at sign up dot axios dot com and now back to the program a podcast. We're joined now by axios markets editor Dion Ribaut in. Is there? A concern that America or Americans, I guess are essentially talking themselves into a recession talking themselves into recession. I just had that's one way you could phrase it. The worry is just that these sentiment indicators have started to trend in a noticeably downward pattern. You know, you use the phrase threes a pattern, and we're getting strains of three and four in terms of confidence. I with a small business owner confidence consumer confidence Antilles fed surveys, showing Bank standards and lenders and all that. And you're seeing a consistent move lower and the reading we've got an consumer confidence. Then January was really really bad, particularly where to come down. I think it was the lowest in about ten years. The biggest drop in ten years month to month. I was at a conference last week and women in Jackie recess susa- senior executive square, the fintech company. She was talking about how from her perspective. A lot of these confidence numbers and lack of confidence. Numbers are almost like a function of time. Right. Like people have seen a bull market both in terms of stocks and labor center for so long. They just kind of feel things must be turning even though historically time has never actually been an indicator of what's going to happen with the economy not realistic thing. And it's actually something that some of the economists we spoke to have said to us, but the real danger here is that as people start to feel like things are bad. They start to not do things like make purchases they start to save more residents spend or put off investment the economy is driven by decisions that individual people make and so as individual people feel like things that whether they actually are not and as we've seen through the hard data in terms of just, you know, whether it'd be the government's jobs data, or you know, other surveys on hard numbers things are good. So regardless of that people do make decisions and the decisions that they make start the impact the readings and the economy. Let's talk about those readings because in the last forty eight hours we've been talking about how all the data has. Been strong. But correct last couple of days we've gotten some data. That's not quite as strong. Yeah. And it's not the most headline grabbing data, right? You see non ASM manufacturing today came in you know, a bit below expectations yesterday. We got some data that had been put off by the shutdown and that was not the best. It's been you actually saw pretty strong pullback in factory orders. And then you saw durable goods which had been actually negative the two months before come in. It was positive, but it missed the expectation by about half or about half as high as it was supposed to be you mentioned the government shutdown that obviously has delayed a bunch of stuff, including the Q foreign year end GDP numbers. What are we waiting for because of the shutdown from a numbers perspective that we should have already? The most important one is particularly when you mentioned which is Q for GDP fourth quarter last year. We're not really sure we'll get that. But the other big one is retail sales and retail sales the one that most. Economist and people really look at as being kind of the real barometer of the economy. What are people spending is the consumer healthy? And that's one that we haven't gotten yet that I think a lot of people have their eyes on and especially because it was delayed, and you did have the government shutdown, and you did have all these people out of work. You also did have a real change in sentiment around that same time. So how did that impact the amount of money that people were spending because as we know the consumer is more than two-thirds of the US economy, and and that's what really drives this ship. So that's the big one. I think to kind of political questions for you. The first is the fed and Jay Powell for those no, the expectation was the fed was just gonna kinda consistently keep raising interest rates, and then Trump got very upset about that publicly got very upset kind of unconventionally upset, and then Powell seems to have shrunk back and the argument on Powell has been well there are all these concerns about the economy slowing, but we did just get kind of his blockbuster jobs report. Give me a preview what happens with the fed. Rates. And what does that mean, it will pal and Trump just had dinner last night on Jay palce birthday, which was very nice. It seems like Trump is really doing giving them the all the Trump glad hand and saying, hey, you did. But I like let me take the industry. Good time for your birthday. I don't know if that's actually happening hopefully, a better meal than what he served the Clemson football players. The thing that really a lot of people in the market were saying was that Powell actually got with reality? I wasn't just Trump who was saying that how was going to fast that he had gone crazy or that the fed was going to cause recession. It was a lot of people in the markets a lot of chief investment visors, or you know, stock traders a lot of people really wanted to fed to pull back in stop what it was doing. And Jay Powell has a background in private equity. And I think more than Trump's could've bullying. It was that it was hearing from people he worked with because I heard from a lot of people that the fed was moving too quickly. And I think he was a lot closer to that. And as the chair he's much more sensitive to it. Final question for you state of the union is tonight. Give me one thing you're either looking for or you think Trump could say that would actually get consumer and business confidence back on a positive track. Wow. I don't know anything. He could say that we get them. Unless he announced the deal with China. I think the one thing that would get consumer and business confidence back really on track would be to say, hey, we're going to stop with all this tariff nonsense, president Xi of China, and I have a deal we've worked it out and everything is back to normal. So let's get back to business. Now, I have an image of Trump and Jay Powell, and and she like at Wendy's sharing food, Dan Ribaut and axios markets editor thank you so much for joining us my final two right after this axios gives you the news and analysis you need to get smarter faster on the most important topics in our unique smart, brevity format. We cover topics from politics to science and media to tech subscribe to get smarter faster at sign-up dot axios dot com and now back to the program to podcast. Now, it's for my final two and first up is a big mystery in Canada where the apparent death of crypto currency exchange founder has left customers unable to access around one hundred eighty million Canadian dollars. So the issue here is that the founder a guy named Gerald cotton kept the deposits in what's called eight cold storage device or hardware. That isn't connected to any network. The idea here is it makes it impossible to hack. The problem though, is the cotton was apparently the only one who knew the devices password leaving all of those customers completely out of luck. Maybe forever now this, of course, has led to lots of internet speculation that cotton isn't really dead. But either way it's a reminder of how there might sometimes be such a thing as to secure when it comes to our money and finally former Trump campaign adviser, Michael Caputo was on CNN complaining about the weekend leak of Trump's daily schedules to axios, we should figure out who this was we should find, you know, let's go back and Alexei Jonathan's emails. Two years. Look like Obama, did let's go through all their phone records. It's pull their Bank records. Let's pull their credit reports. Let's look at their parents emails. I Mike I obviously don't speak for all of axios. And I am also not an attorney. But no, no that that's not going to happen. And we're done. Thanks for listening and my producers, Adam Grassi and Tim show. Vers have eight great national shower with a friend day, and we'll be back tomorrow with another pro rata podcast.

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Celine Dion

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

21:37 min | 11 months ago

Celine Dion

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen every night. In my dreams I see her. I feel her. It's lives my whole Andy Cohen of feeling charged. Stop by the power of love for my guess tonight and relieved that that's over. She sings about moments of golden flashes of light which is pretty much all I'm experiencing in the presence of this five time Grammy Award winning artist. Who sold over two hundred and fifty million albums worldwide and at the most successful Vegas residency of all time nine? Her new album courage is out. Now and she's touring the world through September twenty twenty. Welcome the one the only selene the era such an honor that you're here. Thank you for coming out so much prepared for you. Were so excited and so many great questions from all of you are. Our bar is currently empty but soon we will be joined by the Queen test ends in watch what happens lives first annual. That's the wig it is dragged pageant. I WANNA get started. I've now sung in front of you know what you're amazing me right now because you know what in like ninety nine a minute after the show started. Yeah Yeah you said it. All you've done it. where else can we go? Yes Andrea Russians for selena coming in but before we get to those. Here's what three things things. I am obsessed with tonight. Signed for speed round of questions about your life. It's all coming back to selene growing up. which singers where your icons my thirteen brothers and sisters who were into the Beatles creedence Doobie brothers? Janice Joplin Stevie Wonder Classic Rock. It's really big. What was the first moment in your career where you did something and you thought wow now that was icon? It I think so. Well I don't I everything amazing. I mean it to have a career by itself is amazing to be part of two classics or says. It's almost pretentious to say that. But it's like no. It's it's I mean. They built that theater. Peter for you in Vegas. That's pretty icon you MAC Princess Diana. You met the Pope and you sang it. Bill Clinton's inauguration nation which public figure that you've been with has impressed you the most. Would you say I've had the honor of having many the artists come to Caesar's Palace to see my performance. Yes Prince came many times really Michael Jackson really. Just that has been a song in your career that you desperately wanted to record but it went to someone else because I would have done in any way you would get it anyway. Yeah any different versions but but you know what. There's one song that I didn't WanNA record. which was what? And I'm glad that they didn't listen to which was my heart will go on. It is true what I didn't WanNA record it. I don't know I it didn't it didn't appeal to me just didn't appeal to me. I was probably very tired that day. Wow very tired of this. Let's hold on writer. And he says let's try to make a little demo and I signed a song once this and they build the orchestra around. I never reciting it for the recording. Excellent the demo is the actual recording aunt. But after that. I've sang it about three gazillion. All right thank you very much fashion. Clean Salida slade. So many incredible looks over the years that we all over a big messy but I wonder if any of her past outfits maker. WanNa beg for mercy. Here's what verse Saccio Botchy. I'm going to show you some. Looks folks that you brought if you would wear it again. It's ver- Saatchi. If you regret it throw it on know about g here. You are in Nineteen eighty-seven serving blue jeans realness Initi- GonNa keep that or throw it on the botchy. It almost looks like the dead alright. She's sticking with the here. You are in gold sequins with this performance. Look in eighty-eight Saccio botchy. I'M GONNA keep it you know why because I didn't have wouldn't have money. Yeah and that was made specifically for me. I love it. You are at the nineteen ninety-two American music. Awards in White Tool. I win that night. That's I'm sure oh you did. I want something that night. I address you. You are in an evening at the net charity event in ninety three looking floral. That's very kind of you for saying that but this one can come Your shoes at the grammys ninety. Four what what is that. You know what that's not me first of all I don't I don't think it's me. She doesn't think it's her. Every moment at the world music awards. I liked that it looks like I assumed myself. Yes all right here. You are in too late tax in ninety six. Oh well it was not latex. Okay what was it looks like it. It was just a very tight paying. Yeah Yeah me too. I Love I keep it. I'm keeping your serving body at the billboard music awards in two thousand and three. When I were that I really pushing my luck because you can see and what was trying to say prove show all in the above but you know what when I decided to do something I assume it and I keep it? I love this nineteen ninety nine you made headlines all over the place in your backward suit turn box keeping that right. Oh my goodness. Everybody was wearing gowns. Yes but I feel feel that I was the rare one. Put It this way wearing pants on a red carpet us and the people thought I made a mistake because I was late and I put the jacket Reverse stupid and I'm keeping. Aw thank you very much okay. Let's go to the phones just in from Houston for Celine Dion a justin. What's your question? Komo my gosh. I'm so frigging out right now. My question is would ever consider getting remarried. and Are you currently dating. You're supposed to ask one question. I don't date I don't have a boyfriend and you know it doesn't mean that I will not find someone in my life if I do. That would be great if I don there will be because I'm still in love. I mean once Austrian love so much you know I've been living all my life with Rene is still within me. I see him through the as of my children every day. I'm so passionate about life and I'm so lucky to have my three beautiful sons That's beautiful I keep everything it. I'm not looking for that. Something that happens that you feel that comes in you feel and right now. It's it's if I would have someone on in my life. I would tell you because of an open book all my life but if I do I'll come back I'll talk to you about surprised about the tabloid rumors that so you were dating your best friend. I was not surprised. No I was not surprised is just that because we're best friends we're in show business and the tabloids this industry is made for that. Oh that's the way that best friends hold hands. uh-huh is my best friend and we have a good time together. It feels like today you cannot have a man holding your hand. Hand with anything about him is building as they go out together. They started things until said he. He's gay he's not my gay. Calm down right not trying to hide. Here everything's cool but we can hold hands go to the movies and restaurants people the great thing is you have. The great thing is that you're one of those people that everyone always roots for and everyone always always wants you to be happy and and roots for your happiness and so i. I love the answer that you gave. Let's go from Philadelphia. Hey Liz which question for Selene Dion on the courage store is coming to your city and all over the world next year. Hi Andy Hi Selene. Such a huge fan. I'm so excited to be talking to you. I can't wait free to come to Philly and February. I'm so excited we'll see you there. My question is what was your reaction when you found out. Barbara was in the bathroom. When you performed her song at the Oscars Alpha Real? Was it for you to later. Record your own let let me let me. What would you found out? How did you find out? She was in the bathroom. I mean people talk people talk. People people talk talk. Talk Talk Talk Barbra. STREISAND is one of the most amazing singer. Yes okay and your Sober actress on. I just love her so much and she's got she's got stage fright and I'm like Oh my God Barbara Ryan having a stretched stagefright is like while you don't be scared honey. You're perfect okay. But she's scared. So that's the reality so when she was nominated they've asked Natalie cold fortunately of their Natalie coal to perform and she got sick and she got sick and they asked you the day before they before they asked me to. And I said I've heard the song but I don't Song by heart and we said okay. I'm going to do it if I can have a stand with the sheet of the lyrics in the song and some people said that that she left to go to the bathroom. Maybe she didn't feel good. Maybe her bladder was full or maybe she she regretted. I don't know I don't want to talk on her behalf. I don't know I cannot say anything. Criticize and say yeah. She went to the bathroom. She issue she did people are but maybe she didn't feel good and what came out of the two of you did a duet. Yeah and you know what I love to using her song I love doing I just. I'm just smoke. Whether sh- she left the building or went to the bathroom or she she she regretted not doing it. At the end of the day I just hope that she's happy about the way that I signed herself. Well she was happy about cheap. Youtube recorded the great duet. Got Out more than me not more than you now. Amazing we had a great. She invited me at her house. We had dinner. And did you go to the mall. Downstairs yes gas at amazing. And that's why I keep everything yes you do. That's good you still have the backwards succeed. Oh yes I wanNA know. When you're performing at the halftime show at the Super Bowl? You sang before but I mean we are ready for this to happen would you. WHO's ready? The world is ready. Would you would you be into it I think so. Yeah but they I'm. I'm waiting for the day. Ask Well I don't have a phone you don't know if on comm incoming editor James James Courage out now. The world's tour you're going through September. Twenty twenty wow I feel era as whereas my heartbeat. Now it's the uncut as astor's Selene unbelievable walk. Let's go to the phones Jonathan from DC. Jonathan what's your question for Celine Indian. Oh my God Selena Gone I love you so much and I have loved you ever since I was eight years old. And I use to steal my mom's titanic. CD TO LISTEN INTO MY heart will go on on. Repeat all night while I slept and I'm so excited to see your show in DC. This march. I wasn't able to come in Vegas but now I would like to think that it's all coming back to me now and I'm so anyway my question to you is what were you most nervous about. Going toe to toe with the Retha during your divas his live performance. and was there ever a moment where you wanted to retreat to the backup singers and left her thing. There's been so much conversation about that performance. Formats were you were you when you were up there. What what was your attitude? And what was your first of all before the show. Yeah I read has asked everyone to cut the AC in the building. Yes I agree okay because this is like an instrument that you were them up and all that up and is reasons for that and lately people keep their studios pretty cold. This other reasons for that. That's okay I mean she's Okay Queen assault the quiz also. CUT THE AC please. Would you thank you not not now right now. Thank you and She comes to the code and everything just could the AC. She's hot that's it but the thing is that all the stylist all had are like whenever whenever I go. Whatever you call it trailer outside and every style is knocked on everybody's artists door and say would just like to know? What do you think you're going to wear tonight because we don't want to wear the same call same dress said all? You don't have to worry because we're not. I'm going to wear a dress. We're wearing pants and they weren't like so. That was my second time. Yes controversial you know like the opposite that nipple were expecting wearing a gown interesting so I said No. I'm going for with pans and a long coat. Little Pink insight and all that but the thing is that I for me for me it was like I was anxious. I was not nervous. I was feeling very proud. That asked me to join all those amazing artists. And like I said before before I was saying to myself when it's my line when it's my turn I'm stepping forward and I'm going to be one on. Would her. We're going to die. I'm going to do it with Aretha Franklin and you're GONNA you're not gonNA build it up. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah not to take over I I did you hear from her. After did you have any did she. Did she enjoy the performance with you know. Did you have any sense after that. We took a picture. Yeah I remember that she was like in this small little room and everybody wants so much of everyone and you. You have to feel that in Slyke. She's she's now she was not getting any younger and she's worked so hard and and you don't want to abuse of that time and all that and I said can I have sort of course I took in for me. It's so something treasury ashes of of course and Anyway so it was. It was a moment that I will never forget. Because I'm grateful to have been there for that Greg de email email. Did you ever hear about the ANCESTRY DOT COM report. That said you are related to Justin Bieber of the two of you ever talked about this. Listen to have since I'm related to everybody. Everybody everybody's things I'm related to. Everybody caller what's your name and from where Elwood's Alex from Massachusetts. Hey Alec what's your question for Celine Alenia on. Hi Andy and Selena. I love you. I'M GONNA take my mom to see you next month to celebrate her finishing chemo. And we can't wait. Yeah we're very excited. So he's so much coming and please give her a big kiss for me. Lots of lots of strength okay. Lots of strength thanks. A lot of courage So how on earth did you hit that high note all by myself I self. And what was the toughest part of recording that song. Well first of all. It was a very surprising notes for me because because previous weeks before I recorded that Song David Foster calls me and I was. Montreal was in California and Malibu and and He calls me and he said Celinda mine too. Because I'm doing I'm putting the song together all by myself and he said I'd like to know which key we should go for so so I go to the basement. I don't play piano can hit one key and it was like okay which I think I I said David I think that's pretty cool. Yep I think we got it okay thank you bye good luck thank you so much. I can't wait. I arrived to the studio. He says as you'RE GONNA you're GonNa Freak is so amazing but he said I have a little surprise for you and I'm like Oh okay and if the track was young and it's starting it's so it's so beautiful and he said wait at the bridge. I did a little something and then the key that we you have agreed on. He changed it to a key and a half for the modulation he was I was like. Is that the final key. That finishes is the key that we chose right now. He says it's a key and a half higher but I said David. How could you do staff right if you can't do it? There's other singers ooh and that's all I needed to hit the note. Yes I'M UH-HUH TORONTO. Last call that I very quickly. We have time for one more quick. Chris what's your question I put something in and then My question to you is what do you think if any favorite song from your new album courage what have been it would probably be. Courage would probably be because has represents the whole the whole album and he was so courageous to fight for so long. Yeah his battle and and before he passed he really wanted to for me because I took a year off to take care of him and then before he passed he really wanted me to go back on stage. Because you could see see my show In his bed on his television so he could see my short. Caesar's live every night. And you really want me to go back and he really wanted me to live move dancing and and I think he would be proud God of this salads and that's what courage is all about. The new album is taught courage the world tour semi beyond. Thank you saw how much we love you. We will be back. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. 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Episode 24: Gobi

This Is Love

23:49 min | 3 months ago

Episode 24: Gobi

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He wears the warmest clothes he has and put on a backpack loaded with fifteen pounds of rice or sugar, and then he sets the treadmill. Incline is as it can go and runs for hours. He does this to train himself to run ultramarathons in extreme conditions like through China's Gobi Desert. In June of two thousand sixteen he took three flights and a long train ride from Edinburgh Scotland to a remote part of northwestern China. He says he remembers feeling exhausted before the race even started. The first day, he ran twenty five miles. On the morning of day to he was gearing up to run twenty five more. And I remember looking at my bag to make sure that everything's zipped up in the chest strap up taught lane. I'm looking down and making sure that. I'm ready to go and I looked down and. Say this little dog chewing on my shoes. And I start yell at to. The hundred runners at the rice and the rice organizes. The dock was skinny and small. Some kind of light Brown terrier. The didn't look like it had been bathed in a long time. That had skin problems, no caller. No one had any idea where the dog had come from. People said it had to be stray. Dion was there to win a race, a hundred and fifty five miles over seven days with your food and water and supplies on your back one of the toughest races in the world. I just don't understand how you run for so long. I think can sometimes I ask myself the same questions to be honest? Let's just say today is a Wednesday. How how much will you want to run everyday? Yeah probably run twenty miles. My stays obviously sometimes y gets in the way but Probably do sixty to one hundred miles away in China. So you will run ten to twenty miles today. I'll do ten tonight, but it's pretty wet and windy today say! Maybe not what will be your pace for your mild today between six seven minute malls. So I went. Take me very long to knock ten miles pretty flat down here as well so that helps. At the end of day one of the ultra marathon in the Gobi desert dion was in third place. He trained hard and was feeling confident that he could win the whole race. And then he looked down and saw some little dog biting shoe. whose dogs is this. Someone come and get his him dog away from me and I love animals. It wasn't that at all. It was just I, was focused on the right, so I was focused on the running ahead, and also the rice was literally about to start, so I didn't want this. to be trodden on audio. WanNa trip over it. So as I'm yelling at the the rice. Starting gun goes off and we're running down the road and. This dog, still a my legacy, other hundred runners start to to form a line in front of me. Takeover and here I am made pack nearly lost when I finally got this dog to get off my leg. I start it's Ron hit the trial. I was running up some of the hills. Just before the big man Passan I heard a behind me a couple of times, but I didn't think anything of it. He ran through a forest and then the trail became steeper and steeper soon he was running through snow at one point. He passed a glacier. Everything was foggy and misty. He was so high up. He was running through the clouds. and. I ran into the finish line, which was twenty five miles that die in remember. People cheering and clapping and the locals were playing drums and I thought that was really weighed because. Actually that really happens for the first mile in the first female winners of the day, and all of his fourth over role, and it wasn't a great result some. Wise everyone, cheering and clapping, getting so excited for me and as I crossed the finish line all that noise and commotion was still carrying on. And it was then when I turned around that I could say to slow Brando running in behind me. And of course, all of Attention was for her. This little brown dog had followed him for twenty five miles. Over a mountain. Dion didn't know what to think. There were at the finish line. Staring at each other. I'm phoebe judge and this is love. Dion decided to call the Little Dog Gobi. He needed to eat and he knew she must have been hungry to. A starter pack my bag to get my food out and food consists of peanuts, almonds and dried meats and. Dehydrated food all white food high calories not specifically really gripe for dogs, but Assad is eight, some of the dried mate, which is great for the protein during the rice, and and started to Fade Gobi as well and she was. Hungry that I ended up giving most of my food to her so. She then collapsed next to me and light next to me and went to sleep, and it was like she she had a great day. She had full belly and she was. She was next to the one she wanted to be next to. When Dion woke up the next morning, the dog was still curled up next to him. He says he was surprised she'd stuck with them. There were plenty of other people around Brunner's and race organizers, the also giving her food and attention. But. She seemed to like him. Midway through day three, the reached a river about three hundred feet wide. Dion says he's about six feet tall, and the water came up to his waist. The current was very strong than he had to weed through it carefully. He could see the first and second place runners ahead of him in the water. I thought to myself. You know they're not that far ahead of me off I can definitely catch the Mike and Mike it through the water quickly and catch up to them. And then he heard barking and yelping behind him. And at that moment I spin around. Say what's going on, and it's scabby. Be running up and down the river bankin she's she's barking yelping, wanting because I'd left there and she knows she can't cost the water on her own. And if she had if she would've been washed away. So. I just made this decision this since the decision to go back and pick her up. As I Go to my knees and lift her up and put her in my arms. She just nestled into my arms, and she turned, and she looked at me with big brown eyes, and she just had. LAVENDER is and from that moment on of salt. That's a big deal to waste time in a race. It's a huge deal. someone that is there to win the rice and. Mike that decision to. To Guy back into sack for the time and. The effort just to do it, It was just something in sodomy that I did I didn't really think about it at the time. I just knew it was the right thing to do and. I'll have. A had this sort of. In a belief that it was the thing and I needed to do it and just did it. Once, you cross server. You put her down and and keep running and she's right there by your side. Yeah, we carry on a few other occasions throughout the same stage because some of the water crossing snoras lodge in wheels across some River Bridge Gates that she couldn't cross online, so I'd have to pick her up a couple of times and carry across them as well. and. I just. Every time I picked her up. She just nestled into my arm and she just seemed to put on this small and she just she knew how to work me. Let's put it that way and every time I did it. I just fell more and more in love with her and. it just. Sort of goes into my heart from that moment. As Dion and Gobi near the end of the day, Dion says he assured he be finishing in third place. But then he reached the top of a Ridge and could see the two runners ahead of him. Didn't look like they're going very fast at all and I encourage guy to. To run fast as she could, and tried to run qualifying quickly behind them to try and catch up on them, and they'd obviously been struggling. It was really die in was dry conditions. I think our out of water as well and. I remember saying. Let's let's try and win stage and about fifty made is before the actual finish line. They turned around to see myself in Gobi running past them and they were shocked. and. I ended up finishing that stage I and Gobi was sick and and. It was just. It was just the best feeling tonight that done the right thing in going on. Gabi picked her up taking across the river, but still went onto. WIN THAT STAGE AND A very proud of myself for that and you know of course guy and I became as thickest stage really then. This was about the halfway point of the race. It seemed like Gobi. Would keep running with him whether it was good for her or not. Dion had trained to run one hundred fifty five miles in the heat, but he figured she hadn't. He was worried until he arranged for race volunteer to drive Gobi for the next two stages of the race. And then they ran the final stage together. Dion stopped running every few miles give Gobi. At one point, another runner stopped to instead of taking the opportunity to pass. The runner said it wouldn't be fair. I could hardly run past you while you're giving her a drink. And go be crossed the finish line together. Dion came in second overall, not the first place finish he dreamed of, but he says he barely thought about that. At one point. He wondered if he'd finish the race at all. He says just by being there. Gobi made me WanNa. Keep going. He'd already decided that he didn't WanNa. Go home to Scotland without her. This is an easy thing I mean. Taking a dog from China back to Scotland or Really any country any countries, not something. You just put the dog under your seat. Th. There's a whole long complicated process right? Yeah, especially in China and. This process of take three months at the best of times. It's usually three-month. Corentin process just to find out whether adult has riders on. So you've gotta go through that process just for that align. Dion knew it would take time to put together realistic plan. A race volunteer offered to take care of Gobi while Dion home to work out the details. He contacted as many pet travel companies as he could asking for help. Everyone said No. Logistically, it was a nightmare. Just getting go one of the bigger cities in China where she could quarantine was looking nearly impossible. People from Beijing Shanghai could organize go to be moved out of the country for us, but. They needed someone from the Reagan White. Goby was to bring the dog to the Beijing Shanghai now. The lady that was looking off to Gabi she couldn't do that, so we were trying to find out how we could move. Gobi Gobi didn't have any of the medical requirements to go on a plane to be moved even in a car, so it was proving difficult. Find out how how this could happen. Enduring this time. Dion says he stopped getting any updates about how gobi was doing. The race volunteer who'd offered to look after Gobi answered eons e mails very sporadically. Sometimes. Dion would go weeks without hearing anything. That sounded to make me little queasy and saw an I. I need things white. Right for a little while before I actually received a phone call to say Gobi gone missing. and. She was missing in that city of three million people and. I was devastated House potbaryoskin angry. Really upset about it and I thought we had everything in place and that. That was the moment that I made a very quick decision to fly all the way back out northwest. China all the white back. Those three airplanes and that long train ride to to go out there and see if I could find. have been training an ultra marathon. In Chile in just a few months, which according to his plan would put him in a good position to run. What's considered the toughest race in the world through the Sahara desert in Morocco? But he left it all behind to go find Gobi! He knew the odds weren't great in two thousand sixteen, a rookie, the city where she'd gone missing had a population of three and a half million people. Little by little people heard about dion, and while he was looking for Gobi and step forward to help him print and put up posters. diaw today off today as we were putting these posters up, the word was getting out on the streets at this this God come over his wife. This little dog and people thought it was pretty amazing and Everyone started searching. If only she knew just how popular she was. The search team got bigger every day. One day dion says he counted fifty people all helping him look. One of Dion tent mates from the race flew over from Hong Kong to join in the search. Sometimes, the group would stay up all night. It was discouraging though day after day. No luck. People would be eager to help and be wrong. They tell Dion. We might have your dog and he'd show up and it would be a black lab. I mean surely there must have been a few times where you thought yourself. You know what I. Don't all I can do I've spent enough money spent enough time. I've got a wife. I've got a job. I've got a life. I can't can't give this dog anymore time. No is committed from the moment on my promise to go bills committed. And when she went missing that commitment, just fought up even more inside me, and you pretty driven and stubborn and yeah, now there was there was not what I was going to let it down again. After all that had happened, there was the there's there is some connection and bond with Gabby the. Now is is just unexplainable. One. Night Deanne was eating dinner with his friend from the race Richard. Of the search team members sent dion text with a blurry picture of a dog. She asked him if it was Gobi. Dion didn't think so, but Richard convinced him that they had to go see for themselves just to be sure he said to me, look, you've got to go out and say this is her. Not and we went out to these families time and I walked in behind translate a drive a Richard and a few other people from the search party and across the other side of the living room. Was this little brown dog, and she came running up to me barking yelping unwinding as soon as she sold me, I hadn't said it would, and she was so excited to say me and. Try geigy. Gobi was safe with this family, but it was clear she'd been through a law. She'd been hit by a car and her leg need an immediate operation, but on the flip side shears alive and. In that moment's, she wasn't going to go at a massad. In order to go home with Dion Gobi to pass a rabies test then she had to wait ninety days for a second round of test results. Dion said okay. Yes his boss for Sabbatical from his job as a business manager for Whiskey company. He says he fully expected people to think he'd lost it completely. But for him. He says it was the only solution that made any kind of sense. Dion rented a small apartment in Beijing for the two of them. They went for long walks and found coffee shops. That would the dogs inside. Dion says every morning woke up. Gobi will be staring at him inches from his face. And then on new. Year's Eve two thousand sixteen. They headed home together. When Gobi finally walked into the door of your home when you finally walked in four months later five months later Gobi walks in. Do you think this little dog? Within what the Hell is this? What is going on? She probably was when she saw the cat. That was probably a real shock to a system because I'd seen with other cats adding Beijing she's she's not a big fan of other cats, but I've got an indoor cat code Laura, and she's a rag doll, and she's the princess of the handsome, and of course from her point of view lower the cat I'd been wife six months. Bicycling from the rice dotted enjoying. It was January when I got there with Gobi. Six months dissipated on on Lara and she's on probably her favorite out of my wife and her. So here I am finally turning up. She's excited to see me yet. I bring in this little. Little Dogs, so that was a shock for both of them, but. They. Get on great I guess my the time. They sleep together at night. I fought. Run up and down the hallway during the day. Just goby is not like a dog that you trained sit. Gabby can't do any tricks at all. She can run, but she can't do any tricks at all and I've never tried to take her anything. Call I think I love the personality and the dog she is and. Yes she's. She's sort of dog and Orion character, and she's always got plenty of energy, and it's best left that cheer. She. She has a great life, but also that she enjoys herself as well. Do. You run with her now. Just short little runs. We, do we do run together short runs maybe to the bakery or can get a coffee I mean Gabe loves to run. She's she's born to run, and she would still love to be out there running ultramarathons, but. With the Lego operation that she received and Just trying to look off guy, be in general. Of course we'd. I might do anything that she shouldn't. And now it's more for enjoyment. What is it like I? Just have a normal life with go. Human Life you've known is hiding out an apartment in Beijing running across desert's. Searching her down in the middle of cities. What is it like to just wake up in the morning and put a leash on Gobi and take her out to go to the bathroom. Well. It's something else just to just to be around her. I mean she's just such a happy little dog like even when things aren't going well. You just you can channel is positively and just makes the day better. Sometimes you'll be walking along with guy be, and you'll be busy on might be busy taking a phone call or all my fire. You know just not paying enough attention to go I. feel bad about that, but. Job You will sit down in the grass and. There's no moving her like she may be a small dog, but when she wants to sit down and just. Stop and take the road in. That's what I do with her and She can sit there for half an hour now before she decides out of had enough of this, let's go and It's always moments went onto sitting there and that's making sure. Why might the most of every moment of whether? This is love is created by the orange, spore and me Nielsen is our senior producer. Suzanne of Roberson Assistant producer audio mix by Michael, Rayfield and raw buyers. Special thanks to Matt Majak. Julian Alexander makes original illustrations. For each episode of this is love. You can see them on instagram at. This is love show. Ross on facebook and twitter at this is love show. This is love is recorded in the studios of North Carolina Public Radio debut? UNC where proud member of Radio Topiary from Pierre Ix a collection of the best podcasts around I'm phoebe judge and this is love. Radio. X.

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Lamar Jackson's MVP Candidacy, Dion Waiters Suspension and More

Jalen and Jacoby

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Lamar Jackson's MVP Candidacy, Dion Waiters Suspension and More

"Jalen and Jacoby worried about the strong talking did this week the he is Jalen. Anthony Rose what up DEL. David Jacoby not cold check-in sooner stage by putting it on wax or Jalen Jacoby would would we do they were. We've a very special guest in studio today. Very very special guest. There's just this is the biggest guests we've ever had the biggest get we ever had. Jalen tell us who is joining us. Wahab Albert Eight plus list guests here to day. It is my intelligent talented lovely daughter. Mariah role during the podcast for Dole has been with us for eight years. I just want to give you a little backstory Mariah was Joan. She's a do this thing on you to call Mariah Mondays. Well she has a lot of videos Dell's about current events and movies and entertainment and fashion. Yeah Gosh I might have been giving remember at one of those Mariah Mondays. How did those come about? I was a middle school Youtube Pacific in cool. That's just what everybody was doing in house Mariah Monday and I was just talking to talking to Camera School Jacoby. Well here's the thing. First of all alliteration is everything. If my name is Steve we we wouldn't be on the air right now. 'cause Jaylen Stephen Hidden that's why Mariah Mondays always working at that liberation. And second of all seriously people always say to me that like what do I do to get in. How how do I get started in the industry? And that's how you do it the way the technology works now. There's no barrier of entry. Just do it get your phone film yourself and then grow from there and look at you so you were Mariah Mondays. Eight years ago and now what did you just get accepted to say it and doing. Uta Sports Media To tell the nation who are some of the people that they know that have gone through that program. I think they might have heard of Maria. Taylor Moore V8 countdown. How about that? Wow Maria Taylor. L. One more tipping. She's still from from doing that in middle school. She also does something else. Let people know that women love sports to you can find out what you're doing. I why riding a sports blog On mariah rose dot com. That's my website. It's it's college sports too. So you're a female sports fan. Check it out. Oh that's good good idea mariah. Rose you might be more savvy media than you're dead you. You really might be have you really might be. You really might be natives. GotTa Find Yourself Corny White Dude that can do media with you good from there. Aw How do you feel about the Georgia bulldogs recent How do we say you know less than great performances on on the football field? You know. It's always good watchdogs win. Go dogs whatever we had our little stint. We had our little stint with South Carolina other than that smooth sailing at least amount of Alabama Fan. Exactly I've been to Athens on Game Day. I went to a night game Athens. It gets crazy around they're Like people prepare people. Tell us tell take us take us to a game in Athens Mariah. It's there's nothing like it. There's nothing thing like a game day in Athens. It's my favorite day of the week. I absolutely love the energy. Everybody's super excited everybody's on the same page everybody's nice everybody's feeding you at their tailgates. Ain't nothing like Athens on Game Day. One thing that shocked me about Athens Game Day especially all the female fans that were there. y'All like dress up the up on the northeast in the northeast and it's called dress up to go to football games. Tell them about that aspect of Tailgate Matthews. Yeah it's like the football red-carpet over Athens on yeah carpet. Yeah that's awesome. So do you think they have. Ah Jin chance that they went out to get into college playoff. You saw Alabama lose yesterday the the look. I always have faith in my dogs forever for life I I will say that I will say nothing negative. I have one hundred percent faith in them so mariah. You're nineteen. You represent the cool kids into Kobe. Always talk about being old washed up. So what artists are you listening to right now. More I I guess not. Everybody's listening to drake anymore. Beilenson the drake. She referred to him being bull recently at a concert. Where did they drink? What do you say to them? I mean it's great. That's a generational talent. Unlike if I'm at the crowd and I'm wanting to see Frank Frank Ocean I see drake. I consider that a win so I guess that's just me well one thing. I wanted to make sure that we do while. You're here as we always do. We get people that want to voicemail so if you call nine eight five eight zero Jalen you can leave us a voicemail. We'll play on the show. Just like the Jacobi shut off the ridge. Much love from Baltimore. Got A weird one. Maybe just falls under soft move or boss move so I've been brushing my teeth in the shower for as long as I can remember and I mentioned it to someone not too long ago and they thought it was just the weirdest thing in the world which I don't really understand why would be. Is it weird to shower. Do other people do that on my loan us. Thanks it's great question Mariah. Rose you start off. Is it weird to brush your teeth in the shower. I've got mixed feelings about the brushing your teeth in the shower I see how time efficient as time but brushing your teeth with warm water. I'm not really here for. I think that's kind of weird. Go your water. It's Kinda the temperature of the water but also to me is. I don't want toothpaste on my feet. You know what I mean so like you spit you gotTa make sure it goes right down the drain like don't want toothpaste in between my toes. You know that doesn't sound right to me. Somebody that tries to take at least two steam showers a day. I have to bring you behind the colonel something. We'll get three hours. I found myself rushing a lot in the morning because I needed to be there at six. Am mm-hmm and then normally can take me to our to get to work so that three to four am period of time. I was doing a lot of rushing and a couple couple of times. I tried to brush my teeth in the shower and I realized exactly what you just said Jacoby. I had this to face in my mouth where I'M GONNA spit it number two when I spent at the Floride doesn't evaporate fast enough. It's still on the tie. L. is still in the shower so I got away from doing that real fast so if I'm doing a shower in the afternoon before I go out. I'll do a shower beer. I'm not afraid to get a little bud. Light shower beer of getting ready to go out. I would definitely do that. Obviously you're not of age so you would never consider doing anything like that that you will wait until you're twenty one years of age before you have your very first adult beverage. I understand how that goes of course. Of course that's how it's GonNa go jalen say goodbye to our very special guest Marawi. Thank you very much for joining us. You have an open invite any any time of the program to let us know what the cool kids are saying and doing entertainment and fashion and politics and of course in sport art. I love you and thank you for joining US anytime. Let's get okay just okay is not okay. Well they're talking about your wireless network or college football Saturday morning. You're looking for a game to watch. We know you're all in on your team but after that don't settle for just an okay. Matchup do what I do. Find the best games going on with the best of the best players. Like choosing a wireless network when you go to America's best network. At and T.. Just just like the best best college football you can never ever settle for okay. Whether you're getting your beverages together we want the best ones whether getting your meats for the grill. 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It's so refreshing to speak to an actual person feels like I'm getting five star service. which is what we all want? Really I I mean. WHO's a fan of two star restaurants or to start anything I'm actually partial to four stars myself but let's get serious party? People ally obsesses over customer a care and doing right by you so go to ally dot com that's A. L. L. Y. Dot Com ally bank member. FDIC the people thought they would get Good game last night in Dallas. That's exactly what they got. Kirk cousins Dalvand Cook and the buggies jumped out to an early lead. The cowboys came back and made it a game and at the end it was a deck interception. There was some curious play calling in this game. There was some curious things that the cowboys did this. The Hail Mary very that would've wanted for him but it was intercepted. Jalen rose what you see from the Vikings that you'd like you've been talking about them all year absolutely David Jacoby and of course. The forty niners the undefeated the saints ended up losing yesterday. Soda the cowboys a Lotta Great Teams in the NFC two still wide open however my sleeper is the Minnesota. The Vikings went to Dallas. Get a big role where without their wide receiver feeling on the field. It was all about their ability to stop the run. They don't Cacique. He'll Elliott the entire game. The play action pass wasn't as effective even though deck had a great game. Amari Cooper was out there. twinkle toes on the sideline arline a couple of times. But for me. This was all about the physicality on the Minnesota Vikings getting a win on a roll. It really was you mentioned Dak Prescott Game. This is one of the best best games I've ever seen him play as a cowboy but the importance of Ezekiel Elliott effectiveness. Like you said. The play action pass won't work when they're not scared of the run and they stopping to help them to forty forty seven yards on twenty carries. It was a really really impressive win for the Vikings Jalen. Sometimes you know I don't like to give props you don't have you compliments. You've you've been on Mrs Three the Vikings of the best teams in the. NFC Do think they can make a challenge go deep in the playoffs. You saw Randolph hitting his head on the goal post. A couple of times tight end digs is one of the best receivers in the game and Alva- Cook has more yards ready for this the Christian McCaffrey on the season back feel meal and he's a dual threat. So I've always like a Mike. Zimmer led team because they embodied toughness absolutely and we move onto another one of the best teams in the NFC and data's the Green Bay packers they hosted the Cam Newton Lists Panthers and Co Look Pretty Good Air Jones. Get in the end zone early. A couple of times but a cow Allen once the snow started falling started darting that ball around and he looked pretty good for the panthers. Jalen rose me and you argue about this. You always say there is no such thing as moral victories. But if you're the panthers when you're literally one inch away from winning the game or at least getting a chance to get a two point conversion don't have to feel pretty good about it if you're the panthers absolutely absolutely especially in those conditions in Green Bay and that's why I like teams in the Mid West and on the east coast to play outside because it creates a distinct whole field advantage. And that's what worked in green based favor. Aaron Jones with terrific again as dual threat running back. Having three touchdowns their deepest continued to be stout when needed to be Christian. McCaffrey is going to get his rush yards against anybody. I figured that out. So for Aaron Rodgers. Here's a the hasn't been spectacular this year. Trust him. I have all my fantasy football team. He only had nine points yesterday. He's only gone up with twenty points twice this year to those gains were so very spectacular. You get devante Adams back. He went up over a hundred yards. So this is a great way for the packers on their home. Avail say that Roger hasn't been spectacular this year and you're absolutely right but one of the reasons is just. How good Aaron Jones is this team to create a bounce back? I can't think of running back better than Aaron. Jones has played with for like five years. And it's nice to have that as the packers and they have a much improved defense and as you mentioned they have that home field advantage. When the snow's falling at Lambeau they're just tough to be shot Allen though like Allen was not on our radar six weeks ago seven weeks ago but he played really well in that game made some really tough throws we're talking about the best teams in the NFC? Bring up the Vikings and we bring up the packers and team with we would have put in that conversation the saints they lost and they didn't just get beat. They lost bad to the Falcons. Jalen rose they lost to the Falcons and not only that they had on offense three field goals look at drew. BREES run around around. Getting tackled getting pulled down. What did the Falcons due to stop the offense of the saints? This is flat out of character. Win for the Atlanta Falcons each week. How come on this program and talk about how lacklustre? They've been to the point where I felt like it was gonna cost Dan Quinn this job if for those that don't pay intimately attention to the NFL. These two teams are rivals and so for them to step up play away. Did they needed that game. But the thing that really stands out to me as we talk talk about Ezekiel Elliott. We talk about Dalvin Cook. We talk about Christian. McCaffrey Alvin Kamara. Quiet just know he's dealt with some injuries but usually he's got this over a hundred rushing seventy five yards receiving they gotta find a way to get him back kick-started so Jalen every the Monday after falcons loss what we bring up Dan quiz data security. Do you think that a win. Like this was piled with a couple more winds not his job in the off season absolutely and their owner Arthur blank already came on. said he wasn't gonNA panic. He's going to evaluate the season and in its totality. See but this is a great. Win for the Falcons and I don't think I don't think anyone saw this wind coming the Pelicans over the saints and there's another game. That was very similar upset. And that was the chiefs the cheesman into Tennessee to play the titans and the chiefs. They got Pat Mojo's back he's got one foot and throws for touchdowns played great but Ryan Tannehill that that Ryan Tannehill. WHO's not good enough to be? The starting quarterback for the dolphins was out here in the ball around the field and brought the titans the win in Tennessee. There was this play to. Maybe he jumped snap. Maybe not doesn't matter now. The game is over Jalen. What happened in Tennessee? To the chiefs. We get enamored with the office and rightfully so as fan and we respect the defense when his physical but it's three phases to a football game game. This national teams lost this cheese. If you ask me so it wasn't just that final. Play that field goal kicker. Boston another situation where he missed field goal but for the Kansas City cheese is their defense in its inability to stop the run. Derrick Henry was out there running like Earl Campbell for football fans and while he doesn't catch a lot out of the backfield he's shown me to be a guy that you can rely on in a lot of situations to get yards when you needed NATO and he got close to two hundred yesterday. Almost two hundred yards two touchdowns Patrick holds four. One hundred forty six yards three touchdowns. At what more do you need from. Homes wants to get a win now keeping my eye on this game when I saw that the chiefs were ahead if felt like the chiefs kind of got a little too comfortable with the lead. You think that's fair to say I do think that's fair to say but again when you're special teams trots out on the field. They have to execute and a couple of situations they did not do so. And I believe that's the reason Casey. AC ended up losing so case he didn't just lose this one. They've stumbled a little bit in the past four or five weeks. Do you think there's a chance that we have the AFC playoffs without mahomes the Kansas City chiefs no way as long as tyreek hill healthy no he fell and reinjured his shoulder. I think with mahomes playing the way he played they will not the playoffs in the AFC. Casey isn't involved. We'll Russell Wilson will play tonight but there's nothing that he can do. They will put him in the lead of the MVP conversation nation because of what Lamar Jackson did in Cincinnati. Just running all of the bengals. I mean that that play right there alone was Hey played so well. He didn't even have to play in the fourth quarter from the Marin is here. MVP Right now. How much do I like the Ravens and John Harbaugh you love? I jumped on the other Lamar Jackson Ravens Bandwagon three weeks ago. You've been there from the beginning of the season because about John. Hart Ball Ozzie. newsome like they always have talk physical teams. You see Marcus. Peters score another touchdown down their deepest continues to make plays and our offense lamarcus dazzling dazzling they find ways to put them in situations assist to be successful. I keep telling you multiple tight multiple back. I know you saw that. That one formation. They had three heisman trophy. Hizbullah the three heisman formation. The three hundred formation. What's the Saudis supposed not to call timeout? Just call timeout. Because we got right some delete or some because this should not be fair Eh. They're running the triple option. There's like Nebraska nine thousand nine hundred six. I loved it so much. And the thing about Lamar Jackson. He's so dazzling on the field like I would rather watch Lamar Jackson patching the homes play football and Ella Bellemare his personality. Let's check in on the Quirky Lamar Jackson after the game practicing. Oh actually I did on Saturday at Walter. They did in the water coming down with Sweater or the sunglasses or the spin move more understood. Just it's Lavar. Axes doesn't just feel like that. Can I just let people know that the Ravens are for the culture and wanted to terms because he sometimes probably doesn't fit the part people. Forget that Lamar Jackson was the Heisman trophy winner in college and I liked the fact the he said I tried that spendable in practice at walk through earl. Thomas was coming down. That was shots to Europe. Bengals who we feel like. Don't don't get disrespected enough. Can Davidson second bengals again any time when we talk about the worst football teams in the. Nfl We talk about the dolphins and we as three we talk about that team in Washington who wants to discuss we talk about tanking with all these other teams. The bengals are so bad so bad and no one's done as they have not not only not not one football game they haven't come close to when football game. Let me try to win football games. They're so bad. Aj Green is like you know what I think. I think I heard it. Listen you know me. There's negativity in my heart. I believe they've always celebrate. We celebrate Lamar Jackson. We need to also also disrespect the bengals because the people deserve better than this. This fan base deserves better than this. Like in the Jumbos live jungle anymore. It's been raised like the Amazon. It's over it's over. They said about this. Jalen Rose Dion waiters. In the Miami. He run a flight from Phoenix to Los Angeles on that flight. Dion waiters had a panic attack and he has now been suspended. Ten Games by Miami Heat because there are reports that panic attack was due to who some edibles that were given to him from teammate. Jalen rose I have so many questions but my first question is this. How many edibles did did he take a couple of things David? Jacoby Adam. Silver's own phone. Hey D- does a failed test. That's that's a failed test okay Jacoby. I've been watching a lot of the news. ooh For the young people. Please know what they're saying about the vaping Israel. What you said about your question about the edibles is also also real? You can't determine the amount of THC that's in each eligible. That's failed test. Tanner what is it. Yeah come on. I just can't I can't say with a straight thanks. Everybody knows everybody knows somebody that ended up in the hospital because edibles and now everyone knows dion waiters percent while we do wish him the best mental health is very important and we do want him to get back on the court. This isn't just a one isolated incident thing between him and the Miami Heat. If you haven't haven't noticed here's played zero minutes for the heat this year zero minutes for the heat. They've got Kendrick non-playing over him and they've got tyler hero playing over him. So what part of this incident do you think is a little bit of him. Lashing out against the franchise a little bit and also they added Jimmy Butler this season to be their best player on the perimeter. Remember Dion waiters was getting buckets playing quality minutes. Even before Dwayne Wade got bet so he saw the role diminished last year and then that led so this off season and then adding the players you just described has diminished his happiness with that situation. But you still have to be professional national Jacoby missing. Ten Games is going to cost him almost a million dollars. Oh yeah you know what happens when I think about somebody. Losing a million in dollars. It makes me call tanner and asked him. What does that mean for the are? What does that mean? There's a couple of things there's also report that. It was one of his teammates that gave him quote a gummy and that he refuses to name. Who that teammate is? A couple of things about that number one want shelter dion keep. Everyone's name out your mouth that like that move number two. It was definitely more than one. Gummy it was definitely more than one. Gummy they put. They gave him a panic attack on this flight. Jalen this is one warning to everybody out there especially those that live in states where this stuff you can just walk into a dispensary and get it be very very careful when consuming. Edibles someone who this has happened to one thing I hate about edibles Jalen rose. I've got three little kids. What do they make? gummy bears. gummy worms brownies. Chocolate bars. All things that my kids love to eat please. Careful out there to keep them away from children. World said that's exactly where I was going and the rice krispies as well. Yup All that all that well we move onto some actual basketball the Lakers hosted the rafters in Los Angeles. The Raptors were without lowry. Andy Bucket but they had that man and they had Pascal Siachen. Fred van fleet is getting down and transition the Lakers week cold and the fourth quarter Jalen. How impressed are you by this wind from the Rafters Jacoby Register reminded me a south thing did did a list of your teams in the Eastern Conference to make the playoffs? Okay rattlers hold on hold on so now being sabotaged not just by you but also so by Reggie s forgot about the raptors. Okay but now now. We're told me his escape because we go this way. You're not the we we start pulling up Clinton you getting games to start doing that actually working against me too. I see. I see what's happening around here. It's the people that are closest to you. Were it gets the most. That's what's really happening around here all right if you stop pulling up old clips of Jalen rose talk about ninety nine percent sure Lebron's Michael Jordan's GONNA play a game. This year. The Hornets we doing that too. I'm ready. I'm ready this war now. Actually I was gonNA compliment you because anybody follow. Follow up professional program understands that when we do list. They're not only got one team. Yeah every time we should be called listening incomplete lists. I like that and let me say one thing about the raptors really will coach playing without Serge Ibaka plan without Kyle lowry the most improved player. Pascal Siachen clearly be an all star this year. Fred van bleep playing quality minutes. This is a big time. Roll win against the Lakers. Who have won seven straight? And you see that. It's thirty eight thirty to eight and fast break points and we always celebrate the Lakers for the defense always delicious for their size but sometimes that size does come at a cost not the fast team up and down the floor especially when you get someone like Pascal who who is so so good in transition finished his tough buckets going one hundred miles an hour I love. CRM's game. And I think you already think he will be an all star in the east east new. What they're not only just playing without surgery? Buchan Kyle lowry. They're playing out quite letter like let's not forget that part they're playing without Kawhi Leonard. Who's who was on the team? That's a great point. Jalen rose the stretch mark. Five had himself a weekend. Nikola Jokic the stretch mark five. He did this to beat the sixers on Friday night at home and then last night on Sunday what he do he will turn around a one foot turnaround from twenty feet. Pete would you see from the stretch mark five of the weekend. I gotTA give people a little snapshot behind the curtain over the last couple of weeks Jacoby was the little disappointed you know he trademarks dress mark. Four five his favorite body tight plays in Denver. Got Off to a slow slow start. Jacoby was up. said he wasn't himself then. All of a sudden Allergan in my phone. Yoke Hidden Turnaround Jumpers. The wing. Gangs back that. He's enthusiastic again your camper now. I'm back we yoga. Yoga's plays well. I play well. That's the way we're tired together because we had the same body. Take a fellow stretch Mark Basketball player. Hey thanks for listening to laughter permitted. We are excited cited to have ally as our sponsor because they are all about providing top notch service to its customers and just like we want to deliver awesome content on this podcast ally is relentless and providing the best banking experience it can for its customers linen. I our customers ourselves. Then what do you like Mike about banking with ally. I haven't ally bank savings account. An was attracted to the competitive rate. I also like that. I have access to twenty four seven customer more care and can talk to a real person if I have any issues or need help. It's so refreshing to speak to an actual person feels like I'm getting five five star service. which is what we all want? Really I mean who's a fan of two star restaurants or two star anything I'm actually partial to four stars myself but let's get serious party. People ally obsesses over customer care and doing right by you so go to ally dot com that's A. L. L. Y. Dot Com ally bank member. FDIC chiller rose remember. When that long ago we were talking about the Rams Sean mcvay being genius in Jared Goff after Todd Gurley and this offense and they bolstered the defense over? The off. Season hasn't played out the way we expected to. They faced off against the steelers. And the the steelers defense looked great. The Rams ended up losing this game twelve to seventeen. The rams are five and four four and don't be like one of the best teams in the NFC let alone the NFL. What has changed for them from last year to this year? Well a couple of things that have changed one todd Gurley. Though he has seventy plus yards yesterday is not the three dollars. Bill call one of the top performing backs in the League to Cooper Cup. A huge game the prior week going over two hundred yards caught for as many yards as you and I combined V. rolled if I'm the Rooney family this morning I bring Mike Tomlin into into the office and give him an extension. He's doing an amazing job with this team doesn't have big been at it. MINKA Fitzpatrick the third straight game with an interception remember. They acquired him from Miami and people like Ben Rothlisberger got hurt. I was I was like what are they doing. Why are you bringing in megabits Patrick? and He's played great last couple weeks. And I gotTa meet when you're wrong. So Jalen this thing about Jared Goff is. I'm not so sure anymore. I mean if you look at Pittsburgh did play great defense. But there's sixteen times that you get the ball on third and fourth down to try to convert a first I down and it only happens once what happened to the genius mcvay. What happened to golfing one of the best quarterbacks in the league what happened Todd Gurley? I'M GONNA have to put some of that on him because again. It was like a lot of play action pass to me that. Allow golf to play at extreme. And he's so many gave Dave this year forty pass attempts forty five pass attempts fifty pass attempts. They don't have the balance and I agree with you. You can look at Offense but however we look at the defense to Aaron Donald playing hold. y'All still allowing the steelers to get yards and make plays they added Jalen Ramsey. They allow this steelers this to make plays I was disappointed in both sides of the ball for the rams in that game. Yeah when they remixed their secondary. I had higher expectations for them. And they haven't seen that new secondary featuring Jalen Ramsey who many consider you know if not the best the top three cornerback in the NFL. This rams team still has time to turn it around. But if you're looking at me and say which one of these teams have turned their season around. Is the Pittsburgh steelers. Who have won? Four Straight Games Games without Big Ben Jalen we might talk too much about the browns. The national media just across the border feels like the browns. Get a little too much attention but they always keep a dramatic and they did did exactly yesterday against the bills they had one two three four five six seven. Oh I know exactly how many chances from the one yard line couldn't get it in and then make Mayfield. That was complete to not landry not Odell Beckham. But his Guy Higgins and at the end of the game here it is. I thought maybe it went in refs. I did not agree in the browns end up getting the win at home. What do you think about this big win for the Browns I mentioned to you recently? Their schedule starts is to soften the narrative around the browsers going to slowly start to change because I think they have opportunity to get a couple of wins but for buffalo awful. Oh in their specialties. You GotTa make that field goal. See we've talked so much about the office and the deepest special teams at the third element NASA makeable field goal. You have to find a way to tie the game in that situation and you really do and you know we have People that crunch the numbers and they had the remaining strength of schedule for for the Browns as thirty seconds and just a quick reminder nearly thirty two teams in the League which means according to our number crunchers that the browns have the easiest strength the schedule moving forward so it sounds like we will not stop talking about this Cleveland Browns team anytime soon Jalen can they make the playoffs and the AFC. You just sat. Their strength of schedule is the easiest. NFL next weekend is going to be the weekend. We see Odell go for one fifty. Get Two touchdowns integrate the hunt for a second straight week to go with. Nick Chop this team is going to continue to improve and I believe they still have what it takes to make the playoffs. I hope they do well one team. That will definitely not be making the playoffs or either the teams this next contests but the jets won a game. The jets won a game. The jets won a national football game albeit be it against the giants but a win is a win. Donald got some touchdowns there. Was this one play from Jamal Adams that you just absolutely have to see Jimmy. That football just grabs is it deal. Jones hands and runs it in or touchdown Jalen. Is there anything to look up for. If you're a jets fan Jamal Adams off-field DB's and safeties. You see how he ran through saquon Barkley a really stout blocking back when he needs to be ran through rule him. It took the ball from Danny pennies. Very add a nickname. What happened? Hold up turtle machine gene. I've tried to tell you. Listen four touchdowns. Three hundred eight yards through the air. I still believe in Danny Nichols still believe. In dating Nichols this study. Were to go fate but I agree with you. It wasn't necessarily all all him. It's a great jets win and you gotTa Give Sam Darnold a lot of credit because he seemed poised from the beginning driving them straight down a football field Jalen SAQUON. Barkley did not only not break one hundred yards like he barely early advanced. The ball pass scrimmage for the entire day what is happening with Saquon Barkley. How about this for fantasy owners yesterday? Aaron Rodgers. Nine points saquon. Barkley Tim points. Dak Prescott people keep questioned whether he should possibly get his money. He's outplay Aaron Rodgers. Basically the entire season and we're for three touchdowns last night cost me fantasy but two points Jalen I'm asking the hardest question of asking a longtime longtime. There's three entities that pay attention to on Sunday. The lions the National Football League is a hole in your fantasy team. Which one do you care about the most host my fantasy team? I knew I wouldn't care about his name of Gordon Hayward you have labeled him as one of your guys guys years and years and years ago when he was with the jazz and he really seemed like he was working his way back to the old form when he was in Utah and then this happened freak play. He's just fighting through pick Canada's blindsided by the Markets Aldridge. You can't really see what happens but a broken hand Jalen. What did you feel when you heard the news? About Hayward's words left hand. This is major the Boston Celtics. I don't think it's going to be catastrophic. Because they play in the eastern Congress but he was playing like an all star man his playmaking in his shooting really balanced off the attack and allows guys like kibble Walker to be on and off the ball. Same with Marcus. SMART allow tatum see to have opportunities for slashing along with Jaylen Brown there one less man in their back court now. I think that's GonNa got to be something that really affects record. Four in a negative way Jalen has been a lot of time with you and I often times look down at your hand. And there's a big old scar on top of it because you had had surgery given the timetable of your injury. And you're sort of billionaire with this type of injury. Do you think we can get him back for the playoffs. This is this could be fifteen or twenty games. Okay it depends on it. Depends on if he actually has to get surgery or not. That's the difference I if he has to get surgery is the first time table if he doesn't have to get surgery. Al Say it'd be about ten games. Well we're all rooting for you. Gordon Hayward and one they'll about the celtics is the camaraderie especially between Jilin by name of Taco Fall. Who We all know about? And it's cancer. They did something I needed to talk to. Jalen rose about this cancer Giving fall a haircut Jalen. Have you ever gotten your haircut by teammate. I love that brotherhood. And if he's getting a body is that truly considered a haircut. That's a great point is but I would trust a friend with a baldy though. I wouldn't trust a friend or give me a fade but I would trust a friend and give me a baldy but looking at that. Footage doesn't look too comfortable with the clippers in his hand. Doesn't look to spend you spend more time of your life in a barber chair than you have in the studio. Did he look like confident. Kotoka falls hair. He did not look competent and by the way in his canter has really good hair. He wouldn't allow somebody on his team to cut his. So this is hypocritical Innis also question for you still stands. Have you ever ever let someone who is not a barber. Cut your hair absolutely not the last ten years only three people have cut my hair. She's five exclusive my Guy Hawking. Atl Oh my God Andy. Authentic a Connecticut all my God behest in Detroit. Four people have got a chance to cut this very quickly. Jalen rose over the course of your entire our life. How much money do you think you've spent on haircuts if you add it all together a million dollars a million dollars since two thousand ten until now all cash after-tax onto Jaylen? It's worth it. It looks great every single time. You're on the show. Are you still wearing your button. Downs on talk didn't didn't hoping for the best. Then stop it seriously. Seriously because traditional shirts weren't meant to be worn on talked and honestly it shows untuckit believes leaves in helping guys look sharp and feel casual. That's why their shirts followed the perfect length and were designed for guys of all shapes and sizes. Taller short slimmer athletic build. UNTUCKIT has the perfect perfect fit because everyone deserves a shirt. That looks great untucked. And you shouldn't have to go to a tailored again one with untuckit huge variety of colors and patterns. You're sure to find the style to match Jenny Wardrobe. So whether you're shopping for the perfect gift for the man in your life this holiday season or just trying to craft a look that's as relaxed as it is smart any checkout untuckit get free free shipping and returns on all orders in the US at UNTUCKIT DOT COM and don't forget to use Promo Code R. O. S. to save twenty percent on your first order at checkout that's U. N. in T. dot com promo code ro s so much going on in the world of sports we have NBA basketball. We have college basketball. We have college football. We've NFL football boss so much to talk about. So we have a segment called Becky Jalen. I want to discuss the topic. You say. Hit the brakes. If not even met the man jump in the minivan and keep moving are. Are you ready Mr Riots Gannet Lsu Alabama classic in Tuscaloosa. This game was all about our colleagues that are LSU alumni and Batman that you see on the screen. Joe Borough Jalen rose. This was one of the most hyped. I have to College Football Games that I've seen in years and it lived up to it. What did you think of? LSU's big win over. You know I call it like I see it and I knew they. They were Christian. McCaffrey and I must do it. Joe Borough can. We stop looking sideways. Act as surprise that. There's a white dual threat quarterback that can actually run with the football. He's legitimate he legitimate. He's GonNa top-flight draft pick but for to be hobbled the way he was and respond the way he did in the second half. LSU had a couple of uncontested touchdowns that they allow the one where the DB was looking over it to coach the the one late when they had the Lee so I still beauties tease as both have any opportunity to be in the College Football Football playoff and don't be surprised if they actually play one another later in the season again. I mean to a clearly wasn't one hundred percent himself but he just reminded everybody just just what he can do when he is on the football field. I love to as a pro prospect and Joe Borough climbing that list as well Jalen. The lions is played yesterday. Keep moving. Hit the brakes at the break. I don't know if you saw I know. There's a lot of games on a lot Upsets you happen to notice what happened with the Detroit Lions when they played their division rival. The Chicago Bears meow. They made Mitchell trubisky. Look like a good a quarterback only the lions can do that. What happened to this secondary that you celebrate what happened? Wise Mitchell trubisky out there looking click elite quarterback in the NFL against this program so professional got me meowing. And you know it's like you got your me so so a couple of things I told you at what point in the season this was going to start to spiral out of control as a lifelong alliance fans. I'm going to regurgitate the steps. The world gave us a moral victory against the chiefs. The rest cost us against the Vikings Kerryon Johnson got injured. We traded our slot safety safety. Matthew Stafford did not play yesterday. No this is where I look down at the standings and you ready for this Jacoby. The lions have three wins. The dolphins have to. I know I know you know what that Tiger Carlos. What else is going to be one of the best lines before that week? One Tigers the car your look back to the cardinals. We did tell the cardinals earlier in the year. A little momentum. You mentioned the dolphins adults. Don't just I have two wins on a win streak. Keep moving to hit the brakes. Congratulations to the dolphins. You get further away from the top pick the CO thin then have Jacoby therefore we must keep moving. Keep them move. There's no jacoby worth we keep him. Oh well the knicks are even worse than I thought they would would be keeping moving or hit the brakes. We must hit the brake. Well next president. Steve Mills had this to say about the first ten games into the season for the New York knickerbockers curiosity what spurred you guys to address us in this fashion. Because it's it's rare for it to happen but not happy with where we are. This is not where we expect to be not at this point in ten games in and we just felt like we had an obligation to do that. They didn't seem happy and I've loved her questions from the reporter. He was like this is. This is a little weird but we got student here. I don't think it's weird when you be straight up especially in a market like New York City because here's what happens when and you don't speak out therefore people get a chance to Powell on you have struggled as a two and a season but when you come in front of the cameras and you come in. From one of the microphones and you own the fact that we have not play. Well I respect and appreciate that now. Those eight losses for those that really follow the League. A few of them were heartbreaking. My really heartbreaking losses. There's an asset. Yes La get wax podcasts. Of course you have to own up to it. It's GonNa be interesting to see what happens these next ten games. That's where this season is going to be built for the Knicks. This level of character. They're going to need to show to try to turn around their season so one day I will say positive about the Knicks Easy Knicks Fan. What pills and Perry did when they constructed? This team is a lot of one. Year deals loud one year deals. So you have a season like this and it doesn't work out all that money comes off the books and I know it's not the a bit the best free agent class but at least they can remixed the roster and have another go at it next year. This year does not feel like a playoff run is coming in. MSG moving on Jaanus. Did something weird after missing a free throw keep moving or the brakes. You say Janas hit the brakes okay. Let's just take a look at Jaanus Frustrations he's real focused on that. You can tell Mr Okay. Let's let's try it again. You can make a little correction the second one better. That was an air ball so then he buys vises Jersey rips a little bit and kicks a hole in the thunder. Sign that Jay. Look at that what do you think about Janas reaction to his struggles in the free throw line while he go get a pink slip live for sure from the me he gonNa pay that that okay see sanity. Increased cost not a cost them ten thousand as a related Hulk Hogan version of the Jersey. I just appreciate his intensity. He continues to score thirty points. Basically on a nightly basis getting me fifteen plus boards. It's basically on average four. Five Times made a couple of threes an improved in that area. But here's one thing that I really concern too many airballs from the free throw line. That's what missile. But we show three airballs that he shot so very early in the season. That clearly has to be something the needs to be improved. It's one thing to shoot an airball from the free. Throw line something. I've done many times in my life. It's nothing to do on the second one using missed the first one bad and you make some adjustments. He he knows a little harder little software the level right with Airbus and the second one says that there's something going on upstairs. We have enough date on my favorite player in Australia. Lamelo Ball he had twenty four point six rebounds and eight assists in what was his most complete performance. Look for that Lamelo Ball Lamelo. Just don't pass on Lamelo Ball if you've got a high draft pick I. I don't want the number one pick this year. I want like like number two number three in the made for you I'll if I'm the GM. I don't know if that was the number one pick this year. What do you think about the Melbourne Australia? I like what you did there. You don't I WANNA be takes faults omen tatum. You want everybody else to allow the draft the plant self out at the top of the grab your Guy Lamelo. Oh who's GonNa be six seven Jacoby. This'll be getting a lot stronger. A lot more patient it takes patience to drive to the lane and do behind the back bounce pass. That's terrific quarter awareness. It really is and someone else will be. Consideration at. The top of next year's draft is an interesting situation that James Wiseman Jalen rose moving or hit the brakes on. Why hit the brakes? Now this is a little bit complicated. I'm a breakdown simples. Possible with James Watson wasn't a player. Anthony Hardaway moved him out to Memphis to plan as a team than after Harvey became the Memphis head coach. He also gave university money to start in Athletic Hall of fame which officially according to the rules makes him a booster so the NCAA. James Wiseman you cannot play you are ineligible. So what does wiseman do plays because a temporary restraining order issued by a judge. This is a mess. Jalen what's happening. What's going to happen to is moving forward only two? NCAA finds ways to discipline potential number one pick in the NBA and the NFL Vale. On the same day they only they can do that. One bad headline his forest is not enough. Let's get to bad headlines. Let's take two of our stars out out of our products in one day. You just show Lamelo ball playing basketball. Where was he is in Australia? Down under that was GONNA continue to happen to the top up prospects. They're going to either go from high school to the League or go overseas because they don't want to be under these archaic stringent rules that the NCAA legislates where else in society can talented individuals not profit off of their name and likeness breath that only happens with NCAA. Athletes Jalen laws. That feel like you're getting a scholarship. I'm paying for it by my athletic prowess we decided to. We just saw Joe Borough. Those guys should have got paid for that game. Those guys are are professionals in college. Please continue David. I'm they have the option to go straight to leave the option to go overseas but really what they should consider playing for Juwan John Howard in Ann Arbor. That's an option for Bras Juwan Howard. You'll get you ready for the League. You'll get your indeterminate. You'll get on on national TV and he'll get you right in the league. How about this David Jacoby was? I'm the founder of a school since two thousand eleven you mean and right now. An alum of the University of Michigan. I also have a scholarship endowment at the University of Michigan does that mean a JR La Lake. Student can't play basketball at Michigan or via violation. You what Jalen. The rules are so complicated. I have no idea how to answer that. All I know is it shouldn't mean in that Jalen rose has been a weird week in the NFL and we have a big game tonight. Monday night in the bay I could see either the seahawks or the forty niners blowing the other team out. Those are my favorite types of games. James who you got tonight in the Bay physicality will be on display remember. There was a time with these two squads were headed on a collision course has to be rivals. Collar capture nate was under center for the forty niners going against Russell Wilson. Now we've come full circle and it's legitimate. When the undefeated the forty niners team likely to be playing without kittle at tight end terrific run game? Russell Wilson continues to dazzle all season forty nine. There's plan at home. I'm picking them to get it done anyway. Just because I like to disagree with you I will take the seahawks and we will check in tomorrow on. WHO's right right? Jalen town of the creators flogged off festival in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium. There was rumors that Frank Ocean was going to perform just rumors. So I guess it's what the crowd unwanted and they ended up getting drake. Drake cut his set short because he was booed. Jalen rose why would anyone. Why would anyone anyone anyone boo? ooh Drake explained the santee. But that's going to get right into the car and listen to all of this news. It does he said don't make it doesn't doesn't make any sense to boo drake. Drake's one of the best performers that we have in the game today and he. Everybody loves drake. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Drake you want them to come on the show any anytime. I promise. You will not get booed. We're done the new baby my nipples seriously.

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Who Murdered Bonnie Craig?

Murder and Mystery in the Last Frontier

28:34 min | Last month

Who Murdered Bonnie Craig?

"From the Wilderness of Kodiak. Island Alaska this is murder and mystery in the last frontier with your host Robin Airfield. In, a land full of peril and vicious animals, humans are the most dangerous predators of all. I can't imagine the agony of losing a child for any reason. But how does a mother cope when she learned someone murdered her daughter? And she knows terror and pain must mark the last moments of her child's life. The Book Justice for Bonnie deals with this issue. The well written book profiles, a Mother's fight to learn the truth about what happened to her daughter. Welcome to murder and mystery. In the last frontier. I'm your host Robin Bear Field, and I'm broadcasting from the heart of the Kodiak National Wildlife Refuge on Kodiak Island in Alaska. Karen Foster and her boyfriend Jim had been looking forward to a Florida getaway for several months. Jim Worked as a firefighter and paramedic anchorage and Karen was a real estate agent and a volunteer. Reserve undercover. Police officer. When Jim's brother kin called to tell them he was getting married in. Florida. Karen. And Jim began planning their trip. Karen's three youngest kids. Samantha twelve, thirteen and Bonnie eighteen would stay with Karen's ex husband Gary her oldest son Jason Twenty. Lived on his own. Gym also had three kids who would stay with his ex wife while he and Karen were in Florida. Karen's oldest daughter Bonnie was a full time college student at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and she was very responsible care knew she would be there to help watch over the younger kids of necessary. Karonen Jim felt they had nothing to worry about and they plan to relax and enjoy the Florida, Sunshine for few days. They arrived in Florida on September Twenty Six nineteen ninety four and they rented a sail boat and sailed from Saint Petersburg to the tiny town of Saint Marks. On September twenty eighth after pleasant dinner with Jim's brother, Ken and other members of Gyms Family Jim, and Karen, returned to their boat and headed for their bunks. Footsteps on the Deck Awakened Karen at Three M.. She heard a knock an open, the companion way to seek Hans grim face only half awake Karen could not understand why can had driven back to the Marina. Ken looked into Karen's is his own is missing with tears. He then broke the terrible news. Bonnie was dead. She died in a hiking accident. Karyn reacted with anger and disbelief, but can handle scrap of paper. On it. He had scribbled and Alaska phone number and state troopers name. Jim Walked Cairn to a payphone and dial the number for her. She was connected with Sergeant Mike Mars of the Alaska State troopers. Marce told her he was sorry to inform her bunnies. Body was found at mccue creek where she died from a fall off a cliff. Nothing, the trooper said made sense to Karen. She asks Sergeant Mars Who Bonnie was with when she died. He told her she was with no one. She was alone mccue creek. How did she get there Karen, ask Sergeant Mars she told him Bonnie did not drive. So how did she get to McHugh creek ten miles from her bus route? Maher said, he did not know how Bonnie got to McHugh Creek Karen asked what time Bonnie's body was found and Wennemars said Bonnie was founded to thirty. That afternoon Karen said it was impossible because Bonnie would have been in class at two thirty. Am Bonnie Never Mr Classes. Karen felt certain the body the troopers recovered was someone other than her daughter? She asked Mars how the body was identified. He said, she did not have her wallet or I D on Her but her name was on her class rings she was wearing. Karen was still not convinced and asked if anyone who knew her had identified her. Maher said they were waiting for Karen to make the identification. Karen asked Mars if the young woman had been raped and he said, no, all her clothes were on nothing was ripped or torn off her buttons were done up as was hurt zipper. Mars repeated the Bonnie died in a hiking accident from fall off a thirty foot cliff but he could not explain why her backpack and wallet were missing or how and why she was at McHugh Creek. Karen did not believe Bonnie was dead until she returned to anchorage and identified her child's body in the morgue. She knew then she could either give up or fight to keep going her method of coping with the loss of her child was to demand answers and to examine her daughter's death from the viewpoint of a police detective. The troopers continued to say, Bonnie's death was an accident but Karen did not accept this conclusion. At one time Karen had been a news reporter Anchorage and she still had connections in the business. So she began to accept invitations to talk to the media. She told reporters her daughter was murdered and she begged anyone who saw Bonnie near mccue creek on the day she died to come forward and talk to the state troopers. When the family gathered at the funeral home to view Bonnie's body Karen picked up on his hand and noticed her knuckles were enlarged and bruises covered her arms. Karen immediately knew these were defensive wounds. Bonnie fought with someone before she fell off the cliff. Karen call the troopers and told them what she saw. She wondered how the authorities missed bruises so obvious even her younger children notice them. When the troopers downplayed her ABS observations Karen did not understand why they weren't investigating her daughter's death. The day after the visit to the funeral home sergeant, Mars s Karen to come down to the station. She thought the troopers found something, but instead Mars. Not to talk to the media and not to say, Bonnie's death was a murder. He told her she had no evidence to support this statement. She asked him about the broken knuckles and bruised arms. Didn't he think those injuries were evidence of Struggle Mars told Karen. If she provided the media with too much information, she would hinder the trooper investigation of the case. And she told him, she had not seen the troopers met any effort to investigate the case. She asked him if they considered Bonnie's death a homicide, but he refused to say anything more than they were looking at all possibilities. Karen. Felt the troopers were inept or uncaring? So she decided to investigate bodies death on her own. She followed the route she nubani took on the day she died bunny would have started walking from her father's home at five. AM It would have been dark and Karen realize now how far Bonnie had walked to the bus stop As Karen Walk the route a Moose confronted her on the road like any Alaskan care new a moose protecting its territory could be deadly. She tried to hide behind a lamppost, but the Mousse followed. A red truck stopped and the driver offered to give Karen a ride to get away from the Moose but the Mousse walked away and Karen, told the driver she was fine. Karen. Wondered if something similar had happened to Bonnie. Did Bonnie encounter an aggressive Moose and did her killer stop an offer to drive her to the bus stop? Six weeks passed and despite frequent calls to Sergeant Mars, Karen was unable to learn anything about the investigation into her daughter's death. The lack of information cemented the idea in Karen's mind that the troopers were incompetent. The troopers told care and they were reluctant to divulge information to her because of her frequent press conferences they wanted to keep some details quiet. Sergeant March suggested Karen contact the support group called Victims for justice? He told her the group could help her in some ways the troopers could not. Karen didn't like to think of herself as a victim, but she reluctantly called the number Mars gave her a woman named Janice answered the phone and invited into the group's headquarters where they could talk. When Karen arrived at the Office of Victims for justice, she was greeted by a thin woman with short dark hair. The woman introduced herself as Janice Linhart and told Karen that when her parents were brutally murdered nine years earlier and she and her sister Sharon, tried to get information about the investigation they learned victims and Alaska had no rights in the criminal justice process. Janna said she and her sister endured. And they do not want others to experience the same haplessness. They formed victims for Justice and began lobbying legislators for loss to protect victims and their families and to make the families part of the judicial process. Janice told Karen their. Organization was still small. But there were several ways they could help Karen. Karen said she wanted to see Bonnie's autopsy report, but the troopers would not allow her to see it. Janna said she couldn't promise anything but told Karen, she would look into the matter. Three months after Bonnie's murder Karen was surprise when a woman named. Sandy. Cassidy called and said she and several other people in the community would like to help keep Bonnie's name in the spotlight in the hopes someone might come forward with more information about Bonnie's death. She asked Karen if it would be okay to post fliers and solicit support from the community. Karen jumped the idea and people began donating money to the cause. Soon, a reward fund was offered for information regarding Bonnie Steph. Leads began to develop, and some of the information came straight to Karen each time Karen heard something new. She called Sergeant Mars and he repeatedly said, thank you will look into it. He never told her the troopers follow through on any of the information she and the others provided them. In January nineteen ninety, five Sergeant Mars called Karen and said he cleared the way for her to see bonds autopsy report. Accompanied by Janice Linhart Karen went to the troopers post where Mars introduced her to Dr Thompson the coroner who performed Bonnie's autopsy. Thomson handed the autopsy report to Caren to read. I'm taking a short break from the story to thank the wonderful creative folks at the puzzle game. APP best fiends for supporting this podcast. I appreciate you. I'm sure by now everybody has heard a best means it is bon colorful game. You can play off line. I'd love to solve mysteries both real and fictional and best fiends is a puzzle game that sharpens my mind while I'm having fun. When a true crime story begins to weigh me down. The best things for a few minutes to lighten my mood and reset my brain. Best means a bright cheerful game with thousands of fun levels of puzzles to solve. Each level requires only a few minutes to complete, but you might have to repeat it several times before you successfully finish all the assigned tasks and can move onto the next puzzle. I've been doing fairly well lately speeding through the levels of the towering tree tops but I suspect my things. I will soon hit a puzzle that stumps us for a few days. Engaged your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of characters trust me with over one hundred, million downloads. This five star rated mobile puzzle game is a must play download best fiends free on the apple APP store or Google play. That's friends without the our best feeds. Karen was shocked to see the manner of death on the autopsy report listed as a homicide. The troopers never told Karen the Bonnie's death was ruled a homicide and they never even allowed her to see Bonnie's death certificate. She understood the troopers always believed someone murdered Bonnie. Cult but Karen forced herself to read the autopsy report. Bonnie. Suffered multiple blunt force trauma injuries to the head and her left index finger was fractured. She had eleven uniform lacerations on the back of her head. An injury, the coroner found strange. Dr Thompson told Karen, he found minor tearing Ambani's vaginal walls while this alone was not enough to prove rape. He felt the tearing along with the defensive wounds on Bonnie's hands and arms suggested she was sexually assaulted. He said the only good news was the murderer, his DNA in the form of semen inside a Bonnie. The news about the semen make care in both sick and hopeful maybe with the DNA, they would be able to catch the monster who raped and murdered her daughter. The troopers questioned several suspects including a young man who worked with Bonnie at Sam's Club. Bonnie complained to her supervisor, a batter co worker claiming he took her phone number from her employment file and was calling her home. The troopers asked Karen if Bonnie ever mentioned the CO worker tour McCarron said she hadn't. The troopers questioned the CO worker, but a sample of his DNA did not match the sample taken from Bonnie. Troopers then questioned another coworker who missed a meeting at work on the morning Bonnie was killed but his DNA. Was Not a match. A fellow college student Ambanis English class became a suspect because trooper saw him Ed McHugh creek when they recovered Bonnie's body. Since psychopaths often revisit the crime scene troopers found it suspicious that the young man happened to be present at the body recovery scene of someone he knew. When his DNA did not match the sample taken from Bonnie the troopers dismissed him as a suspect. Bonnie's English teacher contacted Karen and showed her the violent entries written by the student in his journal. When Karen read what he wrote, She felt certain the troopers had let the killer walk free. She called Mars but he told her not only did the young man's DNA not match the sample taken from inside Bani. But he had an airtight alibi for the time of the crime. Months turn to years and care and begin to think Bonnie's killer would never be brought to justice in January two, thousand seven more than twelve years after Bonnie's murder. Karen. Was On vacation in the Philippines when she received an email from investigator Timothy Hutcherson of the Alaska Bureau of Investigation Cold-case Unit Onion said, there were developments in Bonnie's case he said during a routine search of quotas the national database for DNA profiles a match occurred between the DNA profile collected from Bonnie's body and one recently taken from an individual currently in prison for robbery in New Jersey. Kenneth. Dion was the man's name. Karen and never heard of him but according to. Dionne lived in Anchorage at the time of Bonnie's murder. Onion and another trooper flew to New Jersey to interview dion in prison. Dion denied ever meeting Bonnie. Craig but while boasting to the troopers about being a fifth degree karate black belt, he told him he was an expert with martial arts weapons. They asked him what kind of weapons and he said mainly the cy he described the CY. As a prong like weapon resembling a fork. The troopers were surprised. Dion volunteered. He not only had but was proficient with the use of cy when they re examined the photos of the wounds on the back of bodies head the troopers realized the marks could have been made by a CY. Karen Expected Dion immediate extradition to Alaska, and she grew frustrated with how long the process took. On April twenty seventh, two, thousand, seven, Kenneth Dion still had not been extradited to Alaska but prosecutors formally charged him in an anchorage courtroom with first degree murder second degree murder with intent to cause serious injury second degree murder with extreme indifference and first degree sexual assault. Once prosecutors charged Dion Karen realized she no longer needed to keep looking for Bonnie's murder. Instead. She decided to focus her energy on lobbying like Janice linhart before her care and wanted to do something to help other families avoid the nightmare she and her family had endured over the years. And? Wanted. One good thing to come from Bonnie's horrible death. Kenneth Dion had been arrested eighteen times over the years. Ten were misdemeanors and eight were felonies. If his DNA had been collected during his earlier arrests, detectives would have solved Bonnie's murder in months and maybe even weeks. Karen. decided to focus her energy on changing the law, not only in Alaska but in every state. Karen learned that by two thousand, seven, only six states collected DNA on felony arrest and Alaska was not one of them. Karen contacted the governor and a state Senator, and within twelve days, they passed a bill making Alaska the seventh state in the Union to collect DNA on felony arrest. Karen began to speak and lobby not only on a local level but nationwide for the collection of DNA on felony arrest instead of just on felony conviction as most states than dead. A wealthy philanthropist who started an organization aimed at helping, missing and Exploited Children Offered Carolina job in his office in Florida to pursue her 'cause. She jumped at the opportunity and moved to Florida. After a series of delays, Kenneth Deals, trial for the rape and murder of Bonnie. Craig finally began on May Tenth Thousand Eleven Sixteen and one half years after Bonnie's death. The prosecution had little evidence other than the DNA but the DNA match was conclusive and Diaz lawyer did not try to deny. It was Dion Deanna found inside Bani. The defense claimed Kenneth Dion and Bonnie engaged in a consensual sexual encounter at some point before the morning she disappeared on her way to the university. When troopers I investigated the crime scene, they found a drop of Bonnie's blood on a leaf at the top of the bluff. McHugh creek. Prosecutors claimed this was evidence Bonnie was injured before she fell off the cliff. The. Defense countered there should've been more blood if she was bludgeoned on top the cliff. The corner testified the blows on the back of her head, which killed her were were uniform in shape and depth and could not have been caused by hitting her head on a fall from the cliff. A defence expert disagreed with the corner and said, he believed the injuries were caused by her head rocks on her fall into the creek. Karen was worried when the judge handed the case to the jury. Had the prosecutors prove their case or would jurors believe there was insufficient evidence to rule out the possibility of consensual sex between Bonnie and Kenneth Dion? Before long she learned the answer to her question the jury returned the next morning with the verdict Kenneth Dion was found guilty on all counts and was later sentenced to one hundred and twenty four years in prison. An onlooker might believe the DNA evidence alone, Kenneth Dion behind bars, but the truth is not so simple as I mentioned when code is revealed, the DNA taken from Bonnie matched felon in new. Jersey named Kenneth Dion cold-case investigator Timothy Onion, and another trooper flew back to New Jersey to interview dion. In court jurors were shown a video of the interview. When the trial was over one juror told the press it was during this interview when she and several other jurors decided dion was guilty. When hunting show dion a photo of Bonnie and asked him if he Nubani, dion barely glanced at the photo said he'd never seen the young woman in the photo and then begin to act nervous. The DNA led investigators to Kenneth. Dion but just as dion defense attorney repeatedly claimed during the trial, the sexual encounter when Dion left sperm and Bonnie could have been consensual and it could have happened the day before Bonnie was murdered. It was Hudson's interrogation of Dion which closed the case and convince jurors of Dean's guilt. Troopers admitted they made some mistakes and dealing with Karen and her family. From the beginning, they should have told the family they were suspicious about the cause Bonnie's death and were investigating it as a homicide. Karen admitted though the troopers were not incompetent. They conducted a good thorough investigation into the murder of her daughter. It must have been difficult for Trooper Mars to withhold specifics of the investigation from Bonnie's family. But he was dealing with a headstrong mother with investigative skills of her own. I'm sure he did not want the investigation to spiral out of his control or for the press to obtain details the troopers did not want to divulge to the public. It took a long time to bring Bonnie's killer to justice but law enforcement can't be blamed for the delay days after Kenneth Dion. DNA was entered into quotas a weekly check by Alaskan, authorities bound the match to the sample taken from Bonnie. DNA is a powerful tool for linking victims to criminals. Kenneth Dion would never have been caught and arrested for Bonnie's death if he had left a DNA sample in her or if he had managed to stay out of jail. It is a miracle Bonnie's murder was ever found. Today more than thirty states required DNA up on felony arrest. Some people feel the collection of DNA is an invasion of privacy. But police collect fingerprints when a person is arrested how is it cheek swab any more invasive? Thank you for listening and I. Hope You enjoyed this episode. Thank you to my patrons for your support. Check out the show notes for more information on how you can support this podcast and unlock extra episodes by joining the last. Frontier. Club. You can also search for this podcast on Patriots on to learn more the last frontier club. I'll see you soon for the next episode of murder and mystery in the last frontier.

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Fears of a Global Recession

Pro Rata

10:55 min | 1 year ago

Fears of a Global Recession

"That is product where we take just ten minutes to get you smarter the clinton of tech business and politics sponsored by silicon valley bank ideas bank here. I'm dan per mac on today. Show why eight chan just showed up in an i._p._o. Filing and and president trump's next real estate play but first fears of a global recession so at the beginning of two thousand eighteen the big global business business and economic story was synchronized growth or this idea that the world's ten largest economies were all getting larger at the same time it was an extraordinary ordinary moment driven in part by government spending and also relative peace not really war anywhere but now the picture appears to have reversed itself three of europe's four largest economies are heading toward recession so was japan. China's growth is at its slowest pace in decades u._s. Growth slowed last quarter and as you've you've likely heard by now the yield curve just inverted something a technical mark that has preceded every single recession here for the past seventy years so why now why the change well pick your economic poison all of that government spending had to slow eventually as did tax cut sugar high's here in the u._s. The trade wars obviously are not as as president trump wants suggested good and easy to win and rising nationalism elsewhere has created its own subtler trade challenges low and the tools that central banks is traditionally us to fight recessions namely lowering rates. It's been made more difficult by the fact that by historical standards rates are already pretty low there even negative in some countries the old adage that when america sneezes the whole world gets a cold but sometimes and we might be seeing this now it can work in reverse if fifteen seconds will go deeper deeper with axios markets editor dion rohan the first this have a great idea for a startup silicon valley bank wants to help you make a reality with more than thirty five years of experience experienced they understand the challenges of the start of journey and have created banking and financial solutions to help founders every step of the way silicon valley bank ideas bank here visit xvbeauty dot com forward slash next to learn more. We're joined now by axios markets editor dion ribaut and you wrote in your newsletter this morning turning specifically about germany. Why should people in the u._s. Particularly care about what happens with the german economy thing about the german economy. It's not particularly really important just in and of itself. What's important is what it says about what's happening in the world and germany's kind of bellwether for what's happening with all the export-driven driven economies the world. It's one of the biggest it's actually more of its economy relies on trade and exporting been even china's economy which people tend to think of when they think of an export economy so birmanie is basically slipping into recession right now their economy actually contracted in the second quarter and that's mainly because the trade war so even though they're not directly involved involved in the trade war it's hitting them so much in terms of their trade globally and particularly their trade with china their economy is actually starting to go into a recession explain that to me because a layman's argument would be well if china and the u._s. trade between the two has slowed because of the tariff or going back and forth then china german trade and arguably u._s. German trade should expand handwrite in theory yes but what happens is. It's a basic matter of supply and demand so if the chinese aren't getting the same amount of trade going with the u._s. West and they're slowing down. That's hitting everyone so you're getting a slowdown in demand for the chinese consumer which means they have less demand for everything but that's kind of where so you're seeing what you're seeing happen around the world to countries not just do us in china but all kinds of countries that are impacted by trade were right now in a manufacturing recession in the u._s. It's a small part of the economy but it's an important sector in terms of how much the u._s. deals with the rest of the world when you say we're gonna manufacturing recession. Is that a new thing intend to new to the trade war because obviously u._s. Manufacturing as a whole has been generally on the decline for quite some time it has what you're seeing is six straight months of declining mining manufacturing reports so literally when i say we're in a recession i don't mean like i think we'll be in a recession like declared recession as in two straight quarters of declining finding growth that's declining from year years so normally as we saw this kind of steady moved down in manufacturing over the past decade or so you would see even numbers kind of move up move down and it was the downward trend that's continuing. It's just accelerating down and you're seeing the industry actually contract here in the u._s. And you're seeing that basically around the world slowly <hes> the indicators of turning from the industry is growing or staying stable to its outright declining. He's you talked about the kind of those two consecutive quarters and that is the traditional definition of recession right two consecutive quarters of decline and that goes for the overall economy to we saw a decline in u._s. g._d._p. Between q one and q two what our expectations right now for q three because in theory of two three is lower than q two recession but again and this is the thing the the communists actually debate and i don't want to have that debate with you today <hes> because we have much more important things to talk about but if you're looking at a quarter over quarter if you declare declare a recession from quarter of quarter it's gotta be a decline in the overall company so even if we go from you know we went through three point one in the first quarter of two point one in the second quarter and then and let's say we go to one point nine the third that wouldn't be a recession because again. We're still growing year over year and still have been increased from were you were so some economists will say it can only be a recession if it's a year over year. If it's two year over year decline some economists say can quarter over quarter but you're still seeing growth growth in the u._s. No matter what germany actually their economy's contracting it's getting smaller outright and you're seeing that you saw last quarter in the second quarter and you actually saw that in the i think it was the fourth quarter of two thousand eighteen as well i would have to say i think there's a bunch of people running around iowa new hampshire right now who might disagree with you on that come a couple of months from now but we've seen massive volatility in stock market. We had a very bad june. We had a very good july and august has been lousy including the worst actually into the two worst daily drops of the year for about the s. and p. five hundred and the dow in terms of both percentage points should folks look at what's happening in the stock market and extrapolate rob relate that to the broader economy from your perspective guessing right i always say and other people always say stock market economy and the economy is not stock market but the stock market is kind of a representation of how business feels so this is confident. The stock market is going up. Not competence stock market is going down and when the stock market starts to go down consistently considerably. It's a sign that things are very bad so you take it with a grain of salt but at the same time is a sign that there is has considerable worry about what's happening in the economy and what's happening particularly with the trade war so there is a segment of wall street right now. That's very very worried that sees what's happening and things oh man. It's time for us to to move out of stocks and we've got to really get into safe assets. We've seen this actually all year. Funds moving moving out of risky assets like stocks like oil commodities things like that moving into basically savings counties money market funds moving into bonds and that's what you're seeing all these negative yielding bonds around the world because people like. I don't care that this thing has no yield. I don't care that literally. I have to pay to be in these bonds. I would rather be here in something like stocks so that's been happening. It's been consistent theme all year. What's new right. Now is just the volatility people selling really strong really hard guard on individual days and that'll be interesting to watch because the other thing you also have a lot of people on wall street who are very confident that hey you know at the fundamentals are good look at u._s. Retail sales which had had a blowout number look at the unemployment rate. We can't be in a recession right now. So let's buying the dips anytime stock market goes down got it by so those two factors are are really battling each other right now the market thing let me ask you what no journalist ever wants to answer you buller barrett in a year from now when there's a presidential debate between democrat and donald trump trump are they going to be discussing the u._s. Recession as an agreed upon thing oh man. I have no comment on that dan <hes> you know i just report. The news is is what i like to say yeah. I don't really like to say i'm a bull or a bear. I just you know i see there's a lot of bad stuff right now. But the same time there is also good stuff so i can understand being a bull or a bear <hes> i think if you dig into the numbers there is enough it right now in the engine is economy to gaza problem but the car is still running the honorable and editor of axios market. You can sign up at sign up dot axios dot com. Thank you so much for joining my final two right after this with silicon valley bank you'll get a banking and financial services partner committed to seeing through the ups the downs and the i'm weighing over my head moments. There are also scalable solutions that fit each important stage of the startup journey visit xvbeauty dot com for slash next to learn more now. It's time for my final two and i ate chan the toxic racist misogynistic online message board where the el paso shooter posted his anti mexican manifesto vesco so we didn't entire episode about eight last week shortly after which it went off line and it's still off line in no small part because it could no longer use the services services of a company called cloudflare which is this networking infrastructure play that to some extent runs the internet anyway cloudflare filed for its i._p._o. Yesterday and makes two mentions in their eight chan plus a neo nazi website called the daily stormer which cloudflare had previously booted after charlottesville basically the company tells perspective investors esters that it lost certain customers over the years because it worked with these toxic sites but at the same time it also lost certain customers after stopping work with them move that apparently some folks viewed as akin to censorship and finally this morning president trump made his bones as a real estate developer and now seems he's got some interest in returning to his roots but with a governmental spin the wall street journal reports that trump has repeatedly during dinners and passing conversations expressed interest in the u._s. Buying greenland england yes greenland the autonomous danish territory with a population of about sixty thousand people tons of natural resources and key geographic value to the u._s. Military greenland's foreign ministry for its part this morning said quote. We're open for business not for sale and we're done big. Thanks for listening and producer. Tim show vers have a great national roller coaster day and we'll be back on monday with another pro rata podcast.

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Episode #15 - Music & Collecting (feat. Tim Dion)

The Future Calendar

1:02:52 hr | 1 year ago

Episode #15 - Music & Collecting (feat. Tim Dion)

"The. Nineteen or when they created the Yankees and French's mustard. Those two ninety four. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the future calendar. I'm your host nicb annoying and on today's episode we have very different episode for you. This is going to be very special conversation with the great Tim Dion fantastic, friend of mine someone who's just really insightful. Talk to and say, we're gonna be talking all about the future of music and collecting this is a specialty of Tim's. He's been doing it for years. You know, he's done hundreds and thousands of transactions and. Has a really strong background in in kind of what, where music is going, what collecting looks like in the modern age Facebook and pay pal and all these other platforms that we use in our lives. And so he has a unique take on them, and he really you know, use them in a way that you might not be as for millions. So, you know, just sit back and enjoy the conversation. A little bit longer episode today. Yeah. Just hope you have a great holidays, and we'll be back with plenty more tech news and tween nineteen. But here we are a very special conversation with the great Tim d. All right. Tim Dion things. Macer being on the show. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. Happy to be here. Yeah, you're the I guess, I know we had, we had Tim on the first episode ever way back in the day. But you're the first first remote gas here using this, this new software. We found so fingers crossed that all goes, well, yeah, this is awesome. I thank I don't even need need a microphone for myself. Get all also from home, just straight off the laptop, so yeah, yeah, it seems like there's a lot more. I looked into this probably about a year ago to see if I could have guests on just given that, you know, kind of my friends and people, I wanted on weren't necessarily in the same city as me and it seems like in the last year or maybe just kinda more podcast going on like this big growth in podcasts. So, you know, this service reusing alexan- caster. I don't even think was around like I went looking for this exact kind of thing that could record are like two tracks of audio remotely. And now this is this seems like it's gonna be great. So glad we find it. Yeah. We'll see how the final results sound. Yeah. Yeah. But just looking at people at the people now Tim here is a huge music fan, huge music collector, and kind of, like, when we start thinking about, we want to do for a topic on the show, you know, his natural area of expertise was kind of where music is going technology. How he's, you know, been in that way, as a collector, you know, how that's actually a lot of kind of more USA, a Facebook than you might expect. So we can talk a little bit about that. Maybe. You know, obviously, they'd kind of injured like interwoven themselves into many parts of our lives. But who would've research, kind of like a collector interest in there with music in technology? So he's got a lot about with that. So. You know there's TS he's gonna be great research kinda take the show somewhere else that, you know, I don't necessarily know as much about and it have mine and you know, you know, to go back and forth in see what he can tell us about music collector. Yeah. Absolutely. And again, I'm glad to be here. I think super cool. But I guess we can kick it off with the with social media. You brought up Facebook. And that's kind of cool. How Facebook I guess, with with the younger generation like kids, coming up, don't use Facebook nearly as much it's definitely more Instagram. Heavy snapchat. Heavy. Other social media platforms like that. But in terms of like the collecting world Facebook is, is still paramount to a lot of different collecting groups. So, like, for example, I'm in, I guess I'm at least a hundred two hundred different collecting groups that are that range from a whole bunch of different genres, whether that's like. Like metal John RAs, you can have jazz punk rock anything, and there's, there's exclusive merged swaps and vinyl. Buy sell trade groups, and all those things across Facebook in so to really get into the weeds in, in find good deals and stuff, you kind of have to integrate yourself into Facebook groups. I found that's one of the best ways to to really find things. Now, if we go too far here I realized, you know, maybe you could give a little background on kind of either your interests or how you got so into collecting your music just kinda give I mean United each other. So maybe this retaking this for granted just people sense of the scale of your interest, or you know, as much you feel comfortable, or like the size of these groups are just kind of more on your background, and I think you'll be shocked at the scale in devotion of some of these collectors in how many people are in these group, just giving background some scale. I think people really, you know, the good way to kick things. Off. Definitely. So I would say towards the end of middle school. I started to get really into to music. And then I started to collect collect a lot of music towards the end of highschool and really into college is when I started to collect the most and now we're up sitting at now, three years at college. I've got at least three hundred four hundred records a couple thousand CD's improbably around one hundred tapes. So, so definitely a lot of music, and then hundreds and hundreds of shirts, and hoodies and stuff along that lines as well. So I've definitely integrated myself into the I guess, culture of collecting music or some of the ones. What are some of the more, you know, everyone knows if you're gonna follow a ban. You know, you get there, maybe you get their vinyl or you get a CD or a t shirt or something. What are some of the more out there? I just haven't looked your collection. I know I've seen, like skateboard decks and kind of cool drapey tight posters that are made on fabric, or what are some of the other kind of, like far out there items that bands put out there that we might not think goes. There's plenty. I mean, anything from flasks knives. Let's see. I mean, there's I got I'm looking around the house, now to see what kind of stuff I have. I mean different. I've got a bulletproof vest, from aband- disarm. The will come with anything to sell candles journals right now. Free stuff. And then when you're on the Facebook groups, right, there are these are surprisingly large earliest, there may maybe their niche for the John or the artist. But there is, you know, it really binds people as far as like how dedicated they are like you'd be, I guess, when I when you start telling me about it, I was prized at just how dedicated these people are, you know, you don't come across them kind of, in your everyday life outside of these Facebook groups are online. Yeah. Definitely. So I would say on average of these Facebook groups for like merge. Swap stuff are in the foul, a couple thousand there's a handful that are in the tens of thousands, and the end, there's maybe a couple that have reached a hundred thousand and those are typically, like a vinyl auction group where there's no real specific Jon Rao in people will auction off any kind of anything recorded on vinyl, so it can be music. It could be a, a musical. It could be p. People talking anything. So I guess when they become less and less specific is, when you get more and more people. So, for example, I add in the Facebook group metal marketplace in so I think we have some around twenty five hundred twenty six hundred people in the group. So I say as far as like a, a metal collectors group. That's that's kinda around the average. Yeah. In can you talk a little about a little bit about like kind of being an admin? Because obviously admin you know, you have even deeper insight than just someone who's, like a casual fan, or just like the one off collector, who kinda visits these sites like maybe talk a little bit more about how people end up actually like pulling off, these trades in, you know. You know, it's, it's such an open marketplace. Unlike I think of like EBay, right with buyers and sellers. And there's a reward system entrust like Facebook to me seems a lot more. I really done too much like commerce on Facebook, or like even heard of that. You know what I mean, of course like setup deals? But how does that kind of work in those groups share? So, in, I guess, another important thing to realize the Facebook groups is that it's not just exclusively people trading through Facebook in buying things, Facebook, but they also through Facebook obviously linked to other things. So there's a people will constantly throw out Amazon links EBay, Lancs deeply. Or discography another big one will people will will throw an auction on EBay, so it gets all the visibility from EBay, and then they can they can throw that up in the Facebook groups to get even more exposure to that. And I think the Facebook groups are good for finding those people that, that kinda they wanted to sell it to people that want the music before they opened up to a larger market and sell it to some unknown person on EBay. So, so one of the benefits of, of these the Facebook groups is that you can develop friendships with these people that you talk to on a day-to-day basis. And it doesn't always have to even be about buying and selling stuff. It could be about music news in, in everything. And so developing those relationships can also get you future deals of those same people. And in, I think that's, that's another huge part of, of kind of that, that online music community. Yeah. So I guess it's just like a place I mean, kind of place organiz more than more so than everything happening there. She's like it's a meeting point, like launching off point compared like where these where all these other links Goto in kind of outbound things that you're, you're talking about definitely definitely. Yeah. Okay. So that's good background in like, introduction to, like collecting in Facebook and stuff. But I guess kinda open it up to you. Now is kind of like where, you know, your interests are. Where you kind of see, like the future of how, how bands Mark themselves, and sell their merchandise, or you know where the technology comes in, or, or buying and selling or more. The logistics really like I mean, all been up to us kinda like wear wear your interests are and kind of what you think is interesting, people out there who might not know anything about this, or maybe never bought a vinyl or, you know, really haven't thought about using Facebook for buying selling things or trading. Or you know any of this kind of uses, I'll open up to you, where you wanna we wanna go take it. Yeah. I guess the when you first offered this up to me, I think the first thing that I thought was like, how can I make this apply to the future in so looking forward what, what do I think the future music is? And I guess, before I get there to kind of, backtrack a little bit. Yeah. So with obviously, like bio records were the first kind of format of music and following that. I mean that was back in the eighteen hundreds. And now you've got after that came cassettes. And then you had CD's in kind of arise, the digital area era in late nineties early two thousands. And so I would say anybody in the early two thousands of guests that buying music, digitally would have been kind of the future of music right end in. We, we've all seen how it's definitely not like a tunes is, is kind of closing down their digital sales business in in. It's really not a, a strong point anymore at all in. I actually just read the other day that vinyl sales have surpassed digital sales. I think it was back in two thousand sixteen. And so in vinyl, which was created back in the eighteen hundreds is already passed digital digital album sales. And so now the big thing is obviously streaming with, you've got apple music, Spotify, Amazon music Pandora, all these different avenues to stream music in the big appeal. There is just how how simplistic, that is how you can just pay eight dollars a month, which would be less than the cost of buying a normal album. You can get unlimited music. So I think looking forward, I, I think that streaming is, is kinda the way forward and the companies like it because they have that continues revenue coming in every every month. Of, of all their subscribers and it's easier for people that, that don't have to go out of their way to, to buy new music when whenever new music comes out. It's immediately available to them at for just paying that, that same fee that they always paying. And so, I think moving forward outside of you've got the niche market of collectors. I think music as a whole is going to continue to, to grow towards the streaming aspect. And I think that the collector side it's, it's kinda those diehard fans. There's always gonna be people coming and going in that in that sector in. So I don't think that's gonna change as much I think, molar bands. Rely a lot on on those people to make a lot of their revenue. Whether that's through their sales at concerts. Right. And in having people to buy their their vinyl records which. Can make pretty huge margins on. Right. So I guess I'll side on the vinyl actually just thought of something with that. So sorry. The stat remind me again, was vinyl had eclipsed digital sales, or the vinyl had eclipsed, what in sales show, vinyl eclipse, digital sales here. I actually have pulled out so vinyl vinyl sales earned the record industry, two point five two point four million pounds in week forty eight of two thousand sixteen and downloads to two point one million. So the towards December of two thousand sixteen vinyl sales were above digital sales. Got it so kind of when I think of that is like, you know, when you brought up I didn't realize that old. That vinyl was starting kind of DT in hundreds, right? So clearly that was, you know, people actually had the like the phonograph or whatever that the record player, whatever the actual hardware was on. That was, you know, a hundred percent of vinyl was used to listen to music, right? It was just like that was the best that was the tech of the day. Right. Or like the tech of all, and now like, but that sounds funny, right? If like vinyl clips ING digital. So, but then I would say, what fraction of those ever get played ever? I mean, is it under one percent or like to I mean, I would I would be blown away that number even approached like two to five percent. Josh about vinyl now that play their vinyl, correct nowadays versus a hundred percent back in eighteen hundreds like what percent of vinyl in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen actually ever gets played. So if I were to take a stab in the dark, I would say, at least fifty percent really that high that. Yeah. So again, my view might be skewed based on being in these groups and stuff. But there there's I would say whenever we get a new person in the group that that gets there, first record ever got even have a record player yet. And, and they're like, hey, should I play this? It's been Dino that every time you play record degrades like do I lie. Open it up in defile it. And it's almost always a resounding. Yes. Like, the, the people in these collectors groups, everybody everybody plays the records. I shouldn't say everybody the large majority do. And so, I would, I would, I would I think cumbersome that it's like why if you can just play it, you know, like you said, just streaming like why would you why, why I understand the sound is warm or whatever the hell that means? But like. Benefit of violent, right? That's what they say. It's warmer. But does that sound is that what's out the analog dogs right, analog? So but I was I guess, maybe you're kinda countering my point here, but where I was going with that is that I think of it is like it's almost the rise of, of music as art. Right. It's like you can put it on the wall. You can put on a shelf. It's almost showing off, like you know, there's a little bit like hipster credit on at still thing now in twenty teen, but that was like, at least if few years ago of like having vinyl. And of course you like just by the size. Right. It's almost like a mini poster in and of itself. Right. You could just, you know, show off the band is cool artwork. Or it just another canvas. I guess if you will more so than a CD case like those jewel tastes. So when I think of when I like if I'm trying to explain like the trend of vinyl coming back. I guess I didn't realize you're what you're telling me now is that they played way more than I thought. But what I thought of is like, you know, it's more of like a an art piece display piece. It shows your, your phantom, like you're into like once again, you can. Go on YouTube or Spotify or anywhere. Like play the song I once again to analog sound. But like it's far as playing the songs to hear it. There's so many ways of doing that, for so much less cost that, like I think, is, like, okay, this vine rise in vinyl sales, literally billions of dollars in even more than the streaming digital downloads. You know, I was like, what explains that? And that's like one thing, I reach out to, like, all right. You're, you're kind of buying art, more so than you're buying music, or art. Not like not are in the music is art sense, but art in like, you know painting on a canvas kind of sense like just to show off, you know that you like what the ban stands for creativity or something like that. No, you're, you're absolutely right. And I think there's, there's also a lot of other stuff that goes into that. And I think a lot of people collect records for that aspect. That's what I initially did I didn't have a record player for by I probably hundred records and I'm definitely guilty of playing music digitally majority of the time because you're right. It is just a lot easier than right? Having a pickup record, especially like a small. Like, if I wanted to listen to a single on, I'm not gonna pull out a forty five and then switch it every right? Every three minutes. Yeah. But you're, you're definitely right in that there, there's a market for people that by that, as, as a piece of art. But I think that I guess, again, this is coming from the perspective of somebody that, that gets most of this from, from Facebook in, in other vinyl collector avenues, the people that that by this they play it. And even the super rare test presses the ones that are limited to five and six, like the huge collector's items, right? People that are diehard fans will will get those in the play him. So I guess pause there and just explain to people once again, like most listeners people don't even know like test press, like what that is. Or why that's significant or just kinda give a little bit of that background. What, why that would be so shocking that you played at assure? So Diaz attest press when a when a band is going to put out oppressing of a record on vine. Channel, they'll, they'll come up with a number that they wanna press say it's one hundred records right before they make those one hundred records they do a few sample wants to make sure that the sound quality comes out. All right. And in that everything is it looks well, and so those few test pressings that they do. They become big collectors items and a might press anywhere from three or four to upwards, twenty five seen bans press, fifty even one hundred test presses which that point, becomes just kind of just kind of a China make money off of it. So the attest press generally is, is a very rare piece from a band, and they become huge, huge collector's items, and so for it's like anything, right. Like if I'm picturing, black Sabbath back in the day. Doing test press. I, I don't think they realize, maybe maybe they did. But you know that this will become such a hot market. So there are probably five of them because they actually needed five to test the bigger batch nowadays. Right. Like these newer bands like we can get into this later or now or how these bands, you know, they come up with all these different color variants, in all these different things to try and kind of take advantage of some of their most loyal fans are really like I don't want to extract as much money, but, like really can be kind of, like predatory in a sense of getting so much money because they come up with all these different versions of it, or they have a hundred like you said, a hundred test presses. Do you really need a hundred tests to see how the batch is gonna run? Right. Like, of course like back in the days start is like, we genuinely need to know if this is gonna work like does is gonna come out like as a bad a bad pressing. Right. Like you digest a couple. But, like once you've printed, the ninety eighth United Evening, ninety nine in a hundred or gonna come out, okay so like it, right. I mean, like I to your point, I think it probably start like does that make sense that, like, you know, in when they were in the earlier. As of final. It wasn't until like Celtic collectors necessarily became a collector's item, but too often I'm sure, often enough. Like they probably like disappeared in, not in a studio somewhere where no one ever. That's why they are rare invaluable, right? Like not only with a few of them. But people just kind of like probably chucked him in a corner once. Like, once the, the pressing was good. Right. I mean, it's not something that people want to hang onto necessarily definitely. Yeah. There's a lot of record labels. So the, the ban themselves are typically the ones that are pressing the record rights from right? Transpose on the record label. So the record labels are usually, the ones that will have all these copies. You'll see once in a while smaller bands, they'll, they'll hold onto the copies of the tests press, when they when they go to press themselves stuff. Right. And I've seen a lot of different record. Labels use the sale of the test press to go towards either some sort of charity or funding some other future endeavor that that they had planned. And so they'll, they'll go ahead auctioned off a. Thirty forty of them on EBay and not happens, like it ends up all over all over the Facebook groups, but. Yet to go back to what you're saying. I mean you're definitely right? I don't think when they were originally making these even back in the nineteen twenties, and nineteen thirties in these acetate test pressings. Like I don't I don't think there was the collector's value back then maybe there was, but it definitely wasn't the same draw as there was today. I guess I compare it like the thing that jumps to mind is like baseball cards. The earliest, you know, the ones that were actually in, like bubblegum, you know, from the nineteen hundreds where, you know, they were just kinda in the pack of gum, they gave him away or like I think there was some with like cigarettes, or something in tobacco products, the just bear. It was just a part of like it was like a marketing gimmick. So who would have thought is always like, like now like hanging onto your like your like like your cereal box or a rapper marketing thing, so who is like collecting them keeping the pristine. But when like, you know, years and years, went by it was like the fact that no one cared about them at hung onto them, made them, rare valuable. Right. So it's like one of rising more on type situations, where at the time no one thought much of it, probably some of these really test pressings, you know, at the same time. And now it's like oh wow, you have one of those that's worth like this insane amount. Because a there's not that many of them to begin with in be kind of like note like they served a function. Right. It wasn't a to sell. It was just kind of like to get the machine up and running. Right to make sure. It was working roads, like double getting right where who on onto that? And then we're that made to begin with. Because once you're up and running people aren't gonna waste the, the acetate right during the waste of material on more than like you'll only test as many times, feel you need to, you're not gonna do now, people know that these are valuable, so they'll, they can auction them off in the end. They know they're gonna go for like above normal market, value for the music, so they take advantage. But I think that was at all the case in the twenties thirties, or you know, any, any time like that. Yeah. And I think I don't I don't think every band is out there to, to, to take advantage of their don't want to imply that is. But just, you know, of course, there are cases right? Yes. There's, there's definitely cases in. I mean, there's also bans that put out twenty different colors pressings of CDs in. That's kind of been a new market, as well, the different variants of the records of different colors and everything that's been around for deck. Aids, and the, the new CD thing that's that's kinda that's kinda new. And I think some bands are they're definitely trying to make as much money as they can off of what they're doing. And I don't blame them for that, it definitely becomes frustrating to the collectors that are trying to collect every piece of this limited to fifty limited to one hundred CD in tape in all these records. But by that, same token, it's not always the ban that's out to do that. Like so, for example, you have behemoth just released a new album this year. And I was just gonna ask you to bring them up because I thought this would be a great, a great example of kind of, what this looks like when one band releases one album in what that ensues for the collector, right. So behemoth being one of the biggest metal bands in the world right now. When they go to release a new album, kind of everybody wants to have their hand in the pot. So they, they released it and to major record labels nuclear blast and. Metal blade records. They, they both immediately picked up six or seven variants themselves each. And by the time it was all said done with with major record labels little indie record labels, put out different variants in box sets in seven inch records, it came to about thirty variants total. And so for a collector trying to collect this it was it's a huge headache, too, especially since it's all international, you've got a handful of records that were sold to the US. Through through these major record labels that have stationed in, in the US and in Europe. But a lot of those records, are coming from Poland in coming from Russia, Australia. Everyone wants to kind of have their exclusive version to get the people from their country to, to buy that record in no. When they get that pick up of the new record in the new pricing. They know that will sell because there's those variant collectors out there that are going to get it. And everyone kind of wants to get their hands on the new behemoth record with their millions of fans out there and, and so just like to make it really I guess visual for the fans. Like what you're kinda if let's this diehard collector, and you wanna fill out like the name of the albums, like news, the right name? I loved you at your darkest. Okay. So I loved you at your darkest drops right? You know, there's going to be all this frenzy around the different variants and the vinyls and CDs in collector's packs, all this different kinds of stuff. So that comes out, there's a yellow one with three hundred pressings right? There's a red one with fifty pressings. There's a black one with five hundred Guinea, like just outline what that actually looks like with, like the color of the number kind of, like you know, there's twenty five in Russia. There's, there's fifty of the polish one. Like what is that? Like actually look like on just for one big album release from, like a bigger band. United name like just putting some numbers in people kinda digitalize. What you're if you really wanna collect it all what you're up against her. Yeah. So, so, for example, so we'll we'll stick with the behemoth example. Yeah. So they just released this album October November just a month or two ago, and they the ban themselves had about four pressings. They have one one. Like a book that opened up the records on the inside. They added another normal double LT pressing to vinyl records. They had one one picture disc variance. So it had like the album artwork on the record. And then they sold one box set in the box that it had like a necklace upholster t-shirt assigned card from all the band members and the the records. And so if, if you wanted to get like just everything that they had put out a loan, it probably was around three hundred zero before shipping for those four records. And so. They the I guess I don't know the the numbers for each. They had on Hanley how many boxes there were I'd be willing to guess us is in the couple hundred. But if they, they all sold out on the website and now if you wanna buy him secondhand inflation, but it's like they're three hundred percent four hundred percent more expensive than buying it from the, the website when when they originally went up. So that's from the ban themselves. You've, you've also got there was two other box sets that came out. There was one in the US in there was a Russian exclusive box set the rush win the Russian exclusive they also had two other variants. So I believe the box set was is that a one hundred or two hundred they had a in two other variants that were limited to two hundred fifty three hundred I believe in, you could only buy those if you lived in. Russia, Belarus, and a handful of other countries. And so why yeah. Without without having internal connections to the these different people that own the labels in on Facebook and stuff. It's it's tough for a collector to, to even get a hand on these things. And then you've got nuclear blast which had. UK variance, they had European variants, and they had US variance all that were different. All that had different pressing numbers than than metal blade had European US variances. Well, so also done it's, it's, it's a lot of very limited records, and it's, it's a lot of colorful of records as well as it looks right? It's all laid out. I was going to break that down. So when someone hears like US vary. Inter- UK, variant, not having been in his collectors world before, literally with that means is like the US one will be like green. With black speckles, and the UK one will be like, you know, light green with black speckles, right? Or can be that it can be that silly right? Little of a difference between the two variants. But if you wanna get them all you by the US when he by the UK one, you buy the bellarusse one, you buy them. All right, right. And I mean, even some of them, they might even be the same variant. Like the same color say they've got different variant titles, and they're different limited. So the this album they been Poland. There's a polish exclusive of white album, and then the, the Russian exclusive also had a white, but it was called Siberian white, and that one was limited to fifty while the polish one hundred so it they're likes eggshell, why they're Siberian white. There's bright white. There's this of my God. So all told I guess, like for someone a running tally. I heard like four from the band a few from one record label at like from nuclear blasts. A few from metal blade. Like we're talking a dozen variants more is that that's that's small that's to approaching approaching three dozen. So it read out a while yet. Lost out there. It's close to thirty. So yeah, it's just one band. And this is the first pressing in like your average vinyl like just for people at home. Right. Is like in dollars euros like thirty five bucks. Right. Just like if you wanted to buy vinyl of popular band, right? Like they're more than eighty used to bait. Right. Like CD's to be like ten twenty bucks. So now right, it's, it's all going to depend on what they're going for. So the out say the average vinyl that comes out is going to be around twenty twenty five for a nicer one thirty maybe, for like a double LP with a gate fold like the, the sleeve that folds out when you've got all kinds of cool artwork in maybe a poster inside like they can they can make a more ambitious on, on kind of weather going for there. But. The behemoth carries like a huge name with them, and they tried to make these top of the line. I guess vinyl booklets that went with every of every single right? Yup, yeah. So they're, they're even more expensive. Some of these variants were looking at, like a sixty dollars a piece in the box sets all reach over one hundred. So we're talking. Let's say you're mean, I guess keeping face value. Ignoring these, you know, three and four hundred percent markups for the kind of more exotic versions, or if you didn't get the at the preorder things like that. I mean if I'm just doing quick mental math. You're, you're very you've already exceeded thousand dollars for one album, released by one big like bigger band in, in the Jan rutta, just like before you even get like atoll extras that, you know, inevitably come up like shipping in currency and all those kinds of things to get to get this done right. I mean like that in my right amount like thinking about it that what? No, you're, you're absolutely right. Yeah, it comes out, especially for. A big band, like a behemoths and in win a lot of these other up and coming bands, come out what, what makes them more protocal? Is that the put out like one or two, maybe three variants in than a couple years down the road, they'll, they'll put out like another one, and people will be like, man, I remember that album, I love that album. I'll grab another variant will keep this collection going right in. That's typically more protocal way to do this vice selling dulling, thirty different variants in the band, doesn't these labels in the band. They don't expect there to be many people that go out try to buy every every version, and by having them available in all these different places. They kinda they make it easier for that person that lives in Belarus, that normally has to pay for that thirty dollars shipping to get his record from the United States. Now he's got a local dealer that can back in. Easily give it to him. Sure. A lot of this comes down to the fact that, you know, behemoth is a European based band, right? You know, that's probably obviously, why they're, they're focused on that probably know it's funny. I mean, obviously, you and I have listened to medal for your years and things like that are kind of more familiar with the band's in the area but I think a lot of people when you keep saying, you know, behemoth is a big band, or a big deal. You know, they think of, like, you know, the black keys is a big band or something. I don't know like area grind day or something like that. Right. So it might be even more shocking to them. Like, you know, you just kind of take it on the chin with the cost because you understand their following in their size in and kind of how big they actually are where this might be the first time anyone or some of the people listening, even heard of being, you can't say like, oh, what's that? Like you know that big hit behemoth hat, right? So it's, it's interesting right in the mainstream that, you know, like I mean, we you could mention a few in, I just, you know, there's such a small percentage of people who actually know who they are never mind like a song, right by them. Right. So it's interesting, I think people would come to believe that there's this diehard niche. That's you know dropped so much on one album release for a big band in their space. But not one that so, you know, you know, it's not Taylor swift, you know, being business did, I mean, they're not, you know, we're probably selling pretty big news, but they're not they're not Gillette or like, I don't know. They're not in, you know, those, they're not that Negga Metallica, right? Who's even like the biggest kind of in the neuro. So it's just interesting that those kind of dollar amounts attacks to ban fuel might not even heard of right? Even I mean not taking away anything from their size like their fan base or anything like that. I mean, you know, videos, obviously, they're bigger songs millions of us on YouTube, and all that kind of stuff. So, but obviously, like taking taking a second pause to say, like, you know, people people might not think of behemoth is a bigger band off the off top of their heads. Sure, sir. And I think another, another big part of that is people that listen to niche music, light like. Black meddle in death mile stuff. They're more likely to be more involved in the music and in more involved in that scene in purchasing record, not your everyday listener to Taylor swift goes out, in buys the new L P when it comes out. I would say probably ninety five percent above of our listeners. Just listen to it on Spotify or wherever it comes out. And so, when behemoth releases a new record, I would, I would say their listeners are probably ten to a hundred times more likely to go out and buy the CV than a Taylor swift regular in, even if like you're a casual metal fan, I think you're more likely to go out and buy a record from Aban. Maybe you don't even know than than somebody that is not as involved in the music scene. And I think there's just a lot more people, a higher percentage of people that listen to metal or more involved in the scene. Because it's a smaller showing. Yeah. So I think that's all super interesting. Stop, I think a lot of people don't understand kind of what goes into collecting when you're that, you know, hardcore into it and, and even that there's that much available. You know, when I think of, you know, I heard oh vinyls Cohen back, although blah, like I think of, you know, you put out a black acetate vile right in the Mets it in your in, that's you by the vinyl, and you've got the vinyl right, like I wouldn't stop and think that they come up with a red one in a yellow on a green one in a UK one in Belarus wanted a Russia one, you know, like I wouldn't you wouldn't think that there'd be so many versions of, of the same thing that they're even be like a market for that. You know, which is where I go back to my thinking of it more as artwork because I could see if you like, let's say you had your favorite band, and the some great Al you loved, and they came out with three colors like a green when a red one in a yellow one, I can see you making some kind of cool display and you put that on your wall, and it's a conversation piece. And you know you have Molly pulled out of the sleeves. You can see the colors and it, it I can see that being like a display display thing. Right. It'd be pretty artsy. That, that's where I come from. So it's like you know it's interesting to hear your take about how like how this goes down for for bands that, that prince. Oh, many labels that prince. Oh, many yet, I think a lot of people that, that by all these variants myself included, they're not playing every single one of the variants the ruble. Fall, usually take like one of the black ones that's like unwanted variant in how would be the one you're gonna play if you're gonna play it. So when you get into variant collecting at that point, a lot of times, it becomes more of kind of just having the, the collectors mindset of unique to have everything that this band, put out, you wanna be like their number one fan you wanna show those support in in. That's where those Facebook groups come in stuff, people trading records in buying records secondhand because maybe they missed out on the the the first go around. So I guess when I think about that. I mean just to put, like a little bit of a business spin on it, as far as spending more money from fewer people, right? Like you get you have fewer people spend more money like have a higher customer, lifetime value. If you will use like a business school term. That's like, I guess, looking forward as I think about smaller bands in newer bands and things like that, I guess the, the play for them, or kind of how to get their footing is find one hundred people who you know, will buy everything you put out, right? 'cause like obviously a lot of the margins are emerge, you know, it's not really in streaming of your son, like smaller ban getting like someone to buy every single variant you put out every hoodie, every poster every skateboard deck is that kind of like what you see is kind of when you're one of these acts trying to come up and coming like opposites hard to build that following. But do you see that as the way to do? It is just kinda like build such a dedicated loyal core as opposed to try and go like, you know, foreign wide, or is it or, or do you not think that's like the strategy, I guess. Obviously people these vans needed, like make money to go on tour and like with their jobs survive. So what do you think like the approach should be for these bands as we look like how violence taking off, like with all this in mind? What will what would you say like newer band? So I'd say, like there's definitely a threshold of, of making it solely off your music. You kinda have to hit I in the number of dedicated fans. You have. And so there's, there's plenty of bands that, that heavy even reached a good amount of underground success that wouldn't be able to quit their day job. Really? And in make it off the music that they're making a need. There's even some famous death metal artists that stuff to work a day job to make up for the lack of people that, that go out and buy death meddling in grind corn stuff. But if you were going to make it in in that field. You definitely need that, that base of people that are looking to buy everything you put out. But I think more importantly, is, is just having a large base of people that, that kind of know who you are. So I think that these bands make the majority of their, the money that, that, that they're bringing in off of sales of Merced at the at the shows and mine. And, and having a bigger fan base to, to do that. So when they go in, in toward the country, if they can go and sell a couple of t-shirts that will give them the gas in food to get to the next stop that hand to mouth, right? Yeah. Obviously, there's not a ton of money in kinda like it in the road. Right. It's so to even go in record a new album and never mind like to go out in hype it up in pay Facebook to promote your posts, and everything like that you're looking at couple thousand tens of thousands of dollars to, to put out new album, so a lot of those album sales day they do, and the merge sales online are kinda they're funding. They're the future music. They're putting out and so they're not even really profiting that much of what they're doing. So to, to make it you're gonna need to sell that many more tea. Shirts that money more CDs. So that point, it becomes more of a volume thing than it does those niche groups that are collecting everything you put out. And so I think to pass that threshold of doing just music now working day job. It's gotta be beyond that those niche collectors that are pulling it everything that you put out. I guess I guess that makes sense like. It's almost like the of the world or are people that have, you know, like hundreds of thousands or millions of followers. They're the ones who can I don't wanna use the term like farm, but like Goethe to all of those people in find the most loyal and put out, you know, a ton of variants in merchandise things like that. And there's a few people who try and buy all of it, but it's hard if you're just this band trying to get started for, you know someone like right away. So attracted your music and wanna buy everything that you put out every, every variant, so I guess she was lucky if you sell a t shirt like that. Right. I think a big way that, like, but he looks at it is, they're, they're giving more people. The ability to go out and buy these records. I think that the ones that they sold themselves from their, their record store. Like, yeah. Those are the ones they're looking to capitalize make the most money on. But these other ones that the that the labels are putting out. They don't necessarily see all the profits of those. It's mostly the label that's gonna probably take in the money and then pay those royalties back to behemoth for allowing them to toe sell their music. Yep. That makes sense. So I wanna we've talked a lot about, but he missed I wanna take a quick pivot chord kind of another aspect of collecting music. And how this, you know, you're online community on Facebook, and how that works going like just for something else that people might not know that I've talked about you offline before that, I think is really interesting is kind of like the logistics of actually trade in some of your stories and kind of even the amount of items that have been lost, or broken or kind of, like how much you, you know, you think of paying all this money for this, this merchandise, but such a decent percentage of it, you know, involves in, you've had trade disputes in things that have been, you know, lost by the postal service and just kind of the headaches of collecting that in how this works in his Amazon age, where we all expect to day flawless shipping. But of course like you're dealing with more fragile goods like someone could you could snap a vinyl on half or things like that. So just kinda talking about your struggles with that or maybe the dollar value loss at a percentage or or just like what that looks like when you go from like trying to execute trades. On Facebook in like the realities of dealing with, you know, the postal service and pay pal and some of those other struggles of, like you know, getting getting the merchandise you're looking for. Yeah, I would say, if I was going to kind of lead somebody through there, their first online record buying and selling experience. The, the key to success is, pay pal and pay pal is kind of the law in all of these buying and selling groups discipline, not not been mo-, but not that not not then MO not Rasha distinction clear distinction page, Pedro pay pal is the way the water that is it, pay pallets it. In that one. Is that the big thing? Yeah, the big thing there is because they've got that buyer protection and meet you pay this small fee. It comes out to about four percent a little less. And that fee will protect you. If the seller doesn't come through on their end. So the, the seller once you've sent your money to whoever's selling you t shirt or a record or anything like that is responsible for taking your package packaging, it up safely and making sure that they get you a tracking number. Once they get the post office at their shipping domestically than internationals kind of all different deal, but any any kind of shipping that you do from. S P S is going to have a tracking number on it. If you're shipping package. And so you really responsible for getting that person the tracking numbers so they can follow it once. It's in USPS his hands out say anywhere from two to five percent of those packages are gonna get lost that. Only outside of your control, and whether it's lost, or totally obliterated in the mail, I kinda count for about two to five percent. And I've lost I've lost hundred dollar records hundred plus dollar records in the mail, or they show up. And it looks like it was just thrown in a pool and totally destroyed. And there's nothing you can do because it's not it's not the sellers fall, it did. They took every precaution, they could it's just the guy at you USPS decides to, to stop on it, right? While it's in the back of the travel, a bad day, the right? Yeah. He decides to take it out on the one that's marked fragile. And though, there's at that point USPS doesn't really have anything that they can do for you. And so it's always kind of a gamble, buying and selling stuff. Online, people say, like always shift expensive stuff priority or overnight or something like that. And. I guess, the only thing that saves it from its less times in less time in US visas, hands, I haven't found that marking package is fragile or sending it priority means it's any safer than sending it as first class or, or media mail. So, so, I guess the, the natural question I guess that comes out of that then is why not always ignore USPS in use UPS or FedEx. That's like if someone's listening to this, like, that's the question you would have, as you know, there's other ways the ship things not when I use that they if you are just an individual person, you don't have any kind of contract with UPS or FedEx is blindingly more expensive. If you wanna send a t shirt if I wanted to mail you at t shirt, new. Hey, bridge shirt, and you're like man. That's cool. And you'll like eighteen twenty bucks for that sweet years, my pay pal. You send me that twenty bucks. I can package that up and send it as first class mail to you for like three dollars. And if I went to UPS or FedEx or DHL I could be looking at maybe like twelve fourteen fifteen dollars to send that same package. So yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot higher. Ascended if. You don't if you don't have something in place to bring the car, I get that as a percentage of the Shirley got makes no sense because you're essentially paying a hundred percent price on the item but for something like these hundred dollar records or these more fragile more expensive rare things. Maybe you're like why like why doesn't fifteen bucks become more palatable at, like one hundred fifty dollars for a record or something like that. Right. Where it's like ten percent of the cost. Right. So I guess I have limited experience with with FedEx UPS. I'm not gonna bash them here. But I would I would say that with U S P S you can buy those four like the overnight shipping in everything for a similar prices, the most basic FedEx in UPS. And I think people would kind of think like, hey, I'd rather get the package in have it in USPS hands for one night than give it to FedEx, and they'll have it for a week and a half. And if you're looking to overnight something by FedEx. I don't know off hand. I would guess maybe it's like forty or fifty dollars. Whereas USPS might be like twenty dollars mall were in a basic FedEx UPS model might be like fifteen. So I don't know if really the, the gain is there because now even if it's a hundred dollar Akerede, which is a closer, the higher end you're looking at a forty percent increase for just the shipping for a domestic record that reminded its overseas. You're trying to something overnight, in, like hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Right. Right. Make sense. You might as well just fly yourself to go wherever you're going. Yeah. I guess. I guess that's kind of the stuff that I wanted to, to explicitly make sure recovered was kind of some of your your stories in your experiences in dealing with these services in. You know, sounds like the bedrock of. I don't know if you see this changing, but like pay, like pay pal and Facebook between those two kind of having a place to organize like a trusted payment services kinda all you need. And then from there, you know, just like making those connections in kind of finding people, you can trust who actually like no, this stuff and have good merchandise and things like that. So it would you say that's kind of, like where this goes is just, it's essentially, you know, a, you know, you Facebook pay pal, and that's year. Kind of technology. That's what you need going for like you see that changing at all. Or is that kind of, you know, with the foreseeable future of what you need to do this, I would say, the foreseeable futures is Facebook until some other type of social media comes up that can that can take place, which I'm not really sure at the time there's anything on the horizon. So bans will will still advertise through Twitter in those? Advertise through Instagram. But there isn't that those groups in the community and everything that you can get with Facebook. And I think that's the upper hand, the Facebook has that can bring these people together that all have these similar interests. And if you were I guess, if someone wanted to get more into collecting things like that, like, I guess, to me, like I've talked to you a lot about it, but it seems like it could be pretty daunting as far as they have a band. They like they wanna see, like, maybe they found interesting. Maybe they didn't even realize that there were different color. Variants out there who pieces like that. Like, how do you how would you find like, how would you go about finding these groups for your like, John raise you like or bands you like or things like that? Like, what, how would you advise the imagine being pretty overwhelming to get started? Yeah, I would say for people that like bigger bands. Yeah, there's, there's actually a lot of Facebook groups for for bands themselves, and you'll find a lot of people that are buying and selling their music. So whether it's like you're really into rise against and. You really you're looking at maybe get a handful of rise against records. You can check out those different Facebook. Like the there's probably a rise against fan page out there. And if not you look at what specific John Rowe rise against his end. Maybe like a like a punk rock kinda Facebook buy sell trade group, you join the that group kinda see what the flavor of music going on there is. And then from there, you could use a site like discount, which has all the, the full discography of every band and the different releases that they've put out, you can see kind of what you're interested in and then make posts in those groups saying, hey, I'm looking to buy this. Blue variant of this rise against record discount will give you kind of the average that album sold for in the past. So you could say, hey, I've seen that sold for forty dollars before I'm offering forty five dollars to anybody that wants to sell it. In the same token, you can be in those groups in kind of lurk in look to see if anybody's going to sell a rise against record or, or whatever you're looking for. Got it. So, yeah. It sounds like those groups are so key. That's where I know you've kind of becoming Adleman and, and you see a lot of that and stuff, but that seems like where all the actions happening for collectors and that's where the ship is online, like I can't imagine what this look like I guess it happened at record stores before. Right. You kind of walk in and just you'd know the guy who maybe who owned it in, like you've gotta work it like that person, right? Like a lot of things just like moved online. Yet ended. It's totally different now as logical advance having having like, the, the internet, basically. Right. You would never get the Belarussian version before Riley will know shot. Yeah. If and if you did it was because you have those connections from, from the shops, and stuff you before you went to the record store. You didn't know who will allow these bands, where you'd buy a record album because the cover art, look, cool or because the guy behind the desk was like, hey you like you like this band, maybe each checkout. These guys Royal that cover looks pretty cool. Maybe i'll. Pick up this this ten dollar album turns out your favorite band, and then you collect their stuff. And but nowadays, you've got Pandora. You've got Spotify recommendations play lists every you to recommend videos like it's so much easier to find new music nowadays. It's, it's really kind of shocking to look back thirty years ago. See the none of that existed. Yeah, no. I mean, that makes sense. Especially because like to get the all these colors in the variance, and all the other extra stuff. Right, like your local record store. Imagined back in the day. Like there's no way they're going to have like the red the yellow the green like all these different pressings like you kind of lived with ad, I would imagine or like that was just kind of like a crap shoot of what they what they had or what it was definitely. I kinda wanted I wanted to pump up your. Let's get you a follower to on social media. I think these, these pictures you take reset up. I mean, all the records, are like if you have a certain ban you set up all the different kind of merchants collected or accumulated, and you took those big pictures from like a ladder, or like a high up. Place. I think those are pretty cool people don't get a scale for like, what we're talking about here. Like just how many how many records for given band, or John or you might have. So where can where can people go? See some of these cool, these cool pictures. You take volume merch, so I do keep an Instagram page. I'm not as active as I should be in Ireland should take more pictures of my stuff, but Timbo slice one, one to four. I've got I've got a few. Collections that are, that are all put together primarily like, hey breeds stuff. But I'm definitely now that I'm I've got everything centrally located at a new house, definitely gonna be looking to put more stuff together. So if you if you like a lot of colors in, in things that look like death metal that, that's a good Instagram patients. All yeah. I mean, if people understand it, I've seen them set up one or two of these pictures, it can take hours to arrange all of the vinyls, and pull out the, you know, the different color variants in all the different t shirts in CD's, and, and really it's, it's kind of a work of art in a certain way. It's almost like making a like a mural in ode to the all of the mercies Dan's put out. And I think I correct me if I'm wrong, there's been know band members who have reached out because your some of your collections can be quite impressive compared to you. You know, maybe the more average fan out there. They've comments like, wow. I didn't realize even that we switched out. There are things like that. Yeah. Definitely. It's, it's funny because. I'm I'm always honored to have a band kind of appreciate the stuff that put together in and it's funny 'cause they're, they're definitely metal musicians are definitely more everyday people than if I had Drake reach out and be like, hey, man. That's a pretty cool collection. It's definitely cool. Like, I would I would I value, their appreciation more than than I would value than somebody. That's that's got what Drake's right? I definitely would value. Jamie Jospeh from a breeds appreciation over. Drake's right. We all listeners know, Jamie Justice, everybody. So. You've gotten Christmas cards from Jamie DASA's that, right? Several times. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Pretty good stuff. What else is there? Anything else you wanted to cover as far as that. I. When you start thinking about either just like how tech is influencing music, or collect the generally can really open it up. I mean I, I wanted to make it about anything you're, you know, aiming you're passionate about or anything that you think the thing that people should know about now. I think we think we touched on at all. I mean is cool avenue to kind of talk about something that feel like a lot of your listeners might not be too. Keyed in on. And it's it might not be super future oriented. But I think that it's kinda cool that old stuff like vinyl records. They've definitely made a comeback. They've surpassed digital purchases in two thousand sixteen maybe vinyls the future fables by vinyl over streaming. Last circle turtles all the way down all the way around. Right. Right. All right. Well, you know, go pick up but he myths was that a dying place last breath. The. Darkest loved you at your darkest. We've pretty hard on this one. So go pick up a copy of that, you know, follow at Timbo slice one, one to four for everything vinyl and merge, especially in, in metal and this has been a very special conversation. With the one, the Only Tim Dion, thank you so much for joining us. It's been an honor and a privilege. Awesome. Thanks a lot Neko. Appreciate it.

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The Gig Economy Distortion

Pro Rata

09:51 min | 1 year ago

The Gig Economy Distortion

"Taxes per rod where we just ten minutes to get you smarter on the Clinton of tech business and politics sponsored by bridge Bank. Be bold venture wisely. I'm Dan per Mak on today's show unicorns take Manhattan and a FOX in Starbucks hen house, the first not all jobs are created equal. So as you've probably heard, particularly if you follow President Trump's Twitter feed America has the lowest unemployment rate in decades. We've also had over one hundred months of consecutive job growth in all time record that dates back to the middle of President Obama's first term. But those numbers and several other pieces of important labor. Data are being distorted by the so-called gig economy, which includes everything from Uber drivers to the folks from task rabbit who now help you put together Kia furniture. At least that's the message of a new paper from the Dallas Federal Reserve, which notes that many gig economy workers report themselves employed, rather than a self employed or as contractors, even though they are very much, self employed or contractors, in fact, several gig economy companies have even gone to court to keep it that way. Way since contractors often have fewer job protections and benefits than do actual employees. And as that number of not really employees grows that distortion also expands. In fact, there's been some argument that it explains why are decreasing unemployment hasn't led to inflation a situation that's at the economic heart of President Trump's very public spat with the Federal Reserve the bottom line. The gig economy is disrupting much more than just taxis and retail in twenty seconds. We'll go deeper with markets editor Dion ruin the first this the equity fund resources group at bridge Bank is a central hub for the venture capital and private equity communities, offering banking services for funds partners in their portfolio companies bridge. Banks financial solutions are designed for the entire innovation. Ecosystem and include creative credit solutions. Robust treasury and cash management capabilities and a suite of international banking products. Bridge Bank is a division of western alliance. Bank bridge Bank, be bold venture wisely. We're joined now by axios markets editor Dion Rohan Dion one of the arguments. The Dallas fed seems to be making its paper is that the rise of gig economy workers makes the headline employment or the headline unemployment figure less relevant maybe because it under plays labor slack. What does that mean? What is labor slack labor slack is basically just how much more there is for the labor force to tighten up as an how many more people could realistically come into the job market unemployment has kind of a cap really in terms of, you know, there are just some people who aren't going to get jobs. So you get to a point where you run out of slack. And the rope is tied is a compulsively be. I would say though, that I don't know that the Dallas fed is saying that this makes the unemployment report less relevant. I would say that it's distorting it kind of as you said in the intro. It's making it seem like there is less unemployment than there is or there's more employment than there actually is. Is there a solution to take an Uber driver? Right. I mean, how should we consider that employment? Simply as a contractor do. We have to care if they are actually. Not only just driving forty hours a week. But actually getting paid to drive forty hours a week since these gig economy workers often are on the clock, but only actually get paid when they're they've got a passenger in the backseat. Right, exactly. And they also aren't getting insurance benefit fail. So aren't getting a lot of the other things that traditional employee would get like unemployment insurance, for example. So when they do fall out of the employment, if they lose their job as Newburgh driver or doing, you know, working with task, rabbit, whatever it is. They don't have that cushion that the government typically provides workers, and that could also distort things once we hit another recession. So there are a number different things. But to answer your question, it's really complicated process because there isn't something in these categorisations for someone who works in the gig economy where is the contract. I mean, there's contractor, but a lot of these people typically contract would mean is different from what it means today because as you said, someone can work forty eighty hours a week and still not be employed from your perspective is this simply a case of the communists. Whether they. Government, economists, even private economists simply just not having kept up with the times yet, and they're just going to be this lag. And they'll get there eventually because labor market changes labor communists, eventually pick that up you'd hope. So right. And that I think what this Dallas fed paper is getting out that there needs to be some kind of change in the way that we report or the way that people report their employment situation, the change in terms of people and that how they've categorized as figured out. How big it is or how big the number of people as by those people that are paying the self employment tax. So a lot of people are categorizing themselves as employed, but they also pay the self employment tax, which would suggest you're not employed. So they've gotta take some action that number is risen from about. Ten percent to about thirteen percent between nineteen ninety and two thousand nineteen which doesn't seem like a lot until you realize you're talking about a country of two hundred fifty million to three hundred million people during that time. It's an interesting thing because I mean, obviously, these are boxes that's that. Somebody checks off in the way somebody reports, but it almost just that some of these economy companies are doing a pretty good job. Job of marketing to their own workers their own contract workers, basically convincing them, they're employed. We hear about the Uber lift drivers strikes at cetera. But it would appear that most of the folks who are working for these companies view themselves employs, even though they're not lifting Hoover and other companies certainly encouraged that, but I also think there is a tendency of people to have pride in their work and have pride in having a job. And we don't really have a definition for word other than employed for having a job. These people have jobs, but they're technically not employed in the labor markets to typical sense the word. So I think it just goes back to the idea that, you know, as a person you want to have a job, you wanna be taking care of your family, and you know, that all that American jazz about you know, being a self made man and whatnot. You don't wanna say, hey, you know, I'm underemployed missing out on all these things missing on health insurance. And when you get that form, it's like employed, I have a job, no problem. So Dan, I wanted this to big things that have been talked about by. Labor communists are big puzzles that they've been unable to solve the last several years and one has been the relative lack of inflation, given the low unemployment usually the lower the unemployment number the higher the inflation, or at least those things usually are working together. And secondarily that while there has been waged growth there hasn't been as much wage growth as you would expect given the stock markets and given again, the low level unemployment is the Dallas fed suggesting that the gig economy is playing a big role in both of those anomalous. Yeah, I'm really glad you asked that question because the answer is they're saying, please a role. It's not the role at the end of the day. What's been happening over the past thirty years is that people that run companies board CEO's top level managers have been taking a larger and larger share of total company profits and the folks in the middle and at the bottom are just getting squeezed out. And so they're being pushed into these self employment contracts. They're having their wages benefits cut, and as these companies have grown their stock prices of growing their shareholders have gotten bigger and bigger Divet. Bends, and, you know, share buybacks grow the price goes up, but people who actually work workers are not getting in a share of that are getting a smaller and smaller and smaller piece of that pie. That's what's really going on. And part of this puzzle. Though is the fact that a lot of people who should be reporting himself unemployed or underemployed because they're working these contract jobs are not. So again, it's it's part. It's a piece that I think labor market economists have been looking at and saying wait, there's another thing here. And this is that other thing here, but the big deal, and the big takeaway here is just know with happening is corporations are taking the lion's share of all the new games that are coming in and not really sharing that with anyone to workers access markets editor, Dan, rebel. And thank you so much for joining us my final two right after this the equity fund resource group at bridge Bank is a central hub for the venture capital and private equity communities. Leveraging nearly two decades of expertise delivering solutions to emerging technology and growth companies bridge Bank now offer services for fun. SPIC's and general partners, including creative credit solutions. Robust treasury management capabilities and a suite of international banking services bridge, Bank, a division of western alliance Bank e bold venture wisely. Now, it's for my final two. And I is Wall Street where a pair of tech unicorns last night raised more money than expected in their initial public offerings. The better known company was Pinterest. The social book marking site that raised one point six billion dollars. The not quite so well known was video conferencing companies zoom which raised seven hundred and fifty million. Now, why it matters is that there have been big concerns that there could be soft investor interest in buzzy tech IPO's following lifts big stock slide, but it didn't play out that way, arguably because Uma profitable and Pinterest while still unprofitable does seem to have a visible path from red to black. In other words, each unicorn get the judge on merits not as heard and finally Chinese coffee chain a luck. In today. Raised one hundred fifty million dollars a new venture capital funding as a battle Starbucks for local supremacy. But most notable is that most of that money one hundred twenty five million came from BlackRock the US investor that is also Starbucks is second largest outside shareholder. After so for BlackRock, maybe it's a hedge. Or maybe a believes there'll be multiple winners, particularly Starbucks focuses more on in store coffee purchases, and look and focuses more on delivery. But either way it's got a tick off Starbucks as looking as eaten into its market share in part by offering deep discounts that black rocks investment will only perpetuate and we're done big. Thanks for listening to my producer Tim show. Vers have a great national animal crackers day. We'll be back on Monday with another pro rata podcast.

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Lakers Pick Up Win As Kyle Kuzma Goes Off, Waiters Island Continues To Emerge

Lakers Nation Podcast

50:30 min | 2 months ago

Lakers Pick Up Win As Kyle Kuzma Goes Off, Waiters Island Continues To Emerge

"Bleeding purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. IS THE LAKERS NATION DOT com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Hello. Everybody welcome into the Lakers nation post game show. You realize Angeles Lakers just picked up a win. Yeah, it was just a scrimmage game, but still nice to pick up a win one nineteen to one twelve over the Orlando Magic. My Name's Trevor Lane for the Lakers nation dot com, maybe breaking down all kinds of things with UTA just meet today Chris Masterpiece Masters, no Gary Sheffield, junior, but I've never really alone because I am taking all of your questions and your comments, or whether you're coming in from Youtube from periscope from facebook. Welcome and I'll be taking your questions right here so firearm off. We're going. Going to talk all about this game. We'll talk about who looked really good. Kyle Kuzma. Oh, my goodness! What a day for him! Maybe early morning games or the trick? Because he was on fire, we'll talk about some of the bad parts. We'll talk a little bit about the turnovers we'll talk about. The free throws the offensive rebounds. Things like that. We'll discuss everything and also take a little trip to waiters island, because my goodness did he give the Lakers some scoring punch down the stretch, PCP did so as well, but we're going to get into all of it again. Welcome. Thanks for joining me this morning. If you're joining on the live on the podcast version of this, make sure you re review and subscribe to this show over on apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts, you find us on spotify. Respond bindis on Stitcher, or wherever doesn't matter. Make sure you review and subscribe our guys again obscene your questions and comments starting to come in already, people are fired up. I'm seeing facebook comments. I'm seeing youtube comments I'm seeing a lot of people excited about Kouzmin. Add those extra z's to his name, and all of the exclamation points I guess that's where we really should start this off. As far as the good, we're going to start with the good things and thank goodness Kyle Kuzma, look. We were frustrated. Kacoos moves what I believe, three or fourteen shooting last game against the Dallas Mavericks and we've been hearing all these rave reviews from Frank Vogel about how Great Cow Kouzmin looked in practice, even called him dominates, said he looked dominant in stretches and practice in Orlando, and how good he was playing, and then we didn't really see that against the man's. We saw little flashes here and there, but it was kind of same old coups. Mothers inconsistent looked a little bit insurance of him. His decision making did some really nice things tonight or I guess I should say this morning. We really saw kouzmines start to shoot. Like Vogel has been talking about so to give you an idea of just how good! He was ten of thirteen shooting. That's ridiculous. Ten of thirteen from the field five of seven from deep to go along with seven boards and assist put up a total twenty five points to lead the Lakers in scoring. What performance calicoes my? He was fantastic, and they didn't have to force things as much and that was what really stood out to me. They didn't have to force things to Kuzina if you look at last game. They were trying to get open logos they were. Running him a lot as the volume learn, pick and roll and they didn't have to do that this. Go Round this time. Cow Kouzmin got to go out there and play within the flow of the game, and that was great to see I was really pleased to see congressman be able to just play the game. Let it come to him. And in fact I'm already seeing a lot of people saying that cow Kuzina was the guy in this game that they were hoping to see seeing again. Tons of coups with a lot of extra. Extra added to it. Waiters is a beast. All right, so here's the big question. All right I was waiting for one of these rubber Gonzales, said Hey, trevor, do you think this is the coups more? We're going to get during the season. Okay so Crou- crews was tremendous today. The question is can he do it consistently, and that is always always been the question. We've seen it all season long. It's been the kyle. KUZMA ROLLER COASTER! He's been great one game. He'll drop thirty points on a team, and then he'll score for the next and Cana disappear, so we know he has games like this in him, and it was great to see. Don't get me wrong. I would much rather see this performance than not, but now the question is. Can he do that next game? What about the game after that and the game after that? Can you continue to probe solid performances, is he? He going to shoot seventy five percent from the field. No, that's not going to happen, but he made a positive impact out there on the floor today made some good decisions, and of course the shotmaking was a huge part of that. Can he at least be a little more efficient on a consistent basis to where the three of fourteen shooting night that we saw last game is more the outlier. That's the rarity instead of the rarity being the good shooting night, so that's something that we're going to have to keep an eye on, but again critical to Takao Kouzmin. He looked tremendous tremendous this was. Kyle Kuzma the Lakers are going to be really tough to stop really really really tough. This was the Kyle Kuzma that we'd been hoping to see for a long long time so super impressed with him. Number two on my list of good things Frank Vogel Break Vogel Mixing Up Those lineups? I liked it early. In the game. You saw the Orlando Magic, taking advantage of the Lakers because they had a center out there. You had your veil McGee. And jail is getting pulled out. Getting pulled out to the three point line stretching things because he has to go out and defend Nikola Vucevic and the Lakers were step slow on the perimeter and what happens, is the man the magic actually pretty good team similar to the Dallas Mavericks as far as getting into the paint, and then kicking out and finding. Finding Open shooters there ball movement was really good. They couldn't hit anything but I thought they move the ball pretty well first and then Frank Vogel switched, and he didn't just go to his pure bench lineup, and this was the wrinkle that I like he did a little bit of mix and match. He had a couple starters along with his bench into. Into starters ad in Danny Green that stayed in, and they were joined by Alex Caruso Jr. Smith and Kuzma and yeah part was was just an absolute flame thrower, but that unit defensively was a lot better I thought JR Smith was okay. We'll talk a little bit about him in a bit, but as a unit defensively, they did a much better job. Job Getting out rotating, and then being able to recover whenever the magic for forcing switches, so I liked that Vogel opted to give the stability of having a couple starters with that group with green and Anthony Davis and then added in some bench players, some strategic bench players that I thought played pretty good role, Alex, Russo fouled out in the third quarter. Whatever I thought, he got some rough whistles, and that's that's the thing that's going to happen every now and then Gerald Smith did his thing, but you know what cow obviously was the offensive force of that unit and that's that's one thing where I wouldn't mind moving forward to see to see dion waiters with that group just because he can create a little bit more but overall. It changed the flow of the game and it changed the Lakers. Defense to the degree where the magic started missing a lot of because they were being more regularly contested. That was great to see number three on the good Lebron James. The intensity it's a scrimmage. It's a scrimmage game that doesn't count for anything and he's diving to the floor, which scared me a little bit, but he's diving to the floor. He is doing everything of the defensive end. He is yelling at his teammates, getting them to move the right spots. Bronze locked in Lebron, is and look. He's not pushing it. One hundred percent you can tell it's like eighty percent Lebron right now. He's not. He's not attacking on offense every single play. He's trying to set other guys up. We're seeing other guys handle the ball even when Lebron's on the floor. That's not happening. When the playoffs start up, it's just it's not but I liked. The Way Lebron was trying to get. Guys fired up now that attention to detail did Wayne in the third quarter, but still overall a guy like Lebron. You would expect him to coast a little bit right now and I thought he was pretty pretty on point. Of before we get to the bad, let me get into some of your questions David. See from Youtube said. Lebron's jumper is still rusty. Yeah, that's that's going to take some time. Look a Lebron again. I'm talking about his intensity on the defensive end of the floor, and what that causes other players to do because they take their cues from Lebron. Again he is not shooting. He didn't shoot great tonight or anything like today I'm GonNa. Keep saying tonight because we're not used to. Having Games at nine am Pacific Time, but this is the world that we're living in now. So Lebron. I thought the shooting obviously wasn't great, but I'm not worried about that. That doesn't that doesn't bother me at all I. Know He's going to be just fine there, so yeah. That's where I met with him I was looking at his his mentality in the way he was. He was approaching the game. Couple more comments here in the. We're going to get into the negative. Mojo from Youtube, said thoughts on Casey P.. He was on fire. Okay, so here's what I loved about Casey as the Lakers and magic a little bit closer in the fourth quarter. The magic were I mean it was neck and neck. They were right there. Frank Vogel goes to KC, and he immediately responds, and it was just. It was the veteran poise, and we didn't see this out of Casey p say two years ago. We didn't get this guy. That was like cool under pressure. We got more the case EP. That would tend to fumble the ball out of bounds or blow a fast break or something like that. Not say it was a bad player just. Wasn't this kind of. Clutch cool under pressure, performer, and yet Frank Vogel tosses a lot of bench players on the floor with them. They run him off. Curl Bucket. They set up a three crews MMA great pass a three kcpt bucket. Then he shoots passing lane gets an easy layup on the break. He changed the game because he came in a couple of quick shots, and then gave the Lakers a little bit of separation. I loved what we saw. Today, this is the case we need to see in the playoffs. It's still pretty evident that they're missing avery Bradley especially on the Defensive End, we really noticed that against the man of noticed it again tonight in the first quarter again tonight this morning in the first quarter, but Casey. I thought made up for some of that on the offensive end. especially I liked the way he closed the game. He was really really good. They're. All right. Let's get into the bed all right. Let's get into the bed and keep in mind. This is a scrimmage. So I'M NOT GONNA. Come here and say I know a million. Some you coming at me here I'm not trying to nitpick the Lakers year. They won the game. Play great some of the played very very well. This is more hey. These are things to look at moving forward. Because I can tell you some of the issues that they had in this game. If you have them against the Rock, it's you have against the clippers. You haven't been gets the blazers any of the top teams. Are the better teams anyway You're probably not going to win. So. You've got away with some of these things against the magic just barely, but there are things that are going to need to be cleaned up and I four talk about turnovers now. This I think is actually the most forgivable part because you're trying to integrate these new players in Dion waiters and JR, Smith and Players have been out right. They've been at home for four months. They're gonNA lack a little bit that chemistry. That's going to be natural, and then on top of that the Frank. Vogel is tinkering with lineups. It's not just that they have played in four months. It's an they played four months. And then you've got the coach. Mixing and matching things which is going to create a little bit of confusion. Confusion and we saw a bit on the defensive end. Just because you don't have that familiarity with your teammates, he was trying lineups. The we may not have seen very often if at all during the rest of the regular season so Vogel I thought an by the way this. That's the right decision. He should be doing that. He should be tinkering with lineups right now. This is the time for that. So. I'm not trying to criticize them here, but the turnovers do need some work. Okay. You can't go into a game and have twenty three turnovers. I was shocked when I looked up in the magic. We're like within five suddenly in the third quarter and I looked at the stats. Okay, this is why because the Lakers had twenty three turnovers for the game, and the Magic had seven. Seven turnovers all game for a while. They only had one. They took care of the ball and because of that, they got a lot more shots. So the turnovers are certainly they need to be cleaned up. We saw a few bad ones out. There Look Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard had a lot of turnovers where he was getting called for for steps, he was getting called for illegal screens. That was that was an issue Dwight. Howard versus the reps continues to be a thing. Dwight Howard had five-term. Where's Lebron had five tournaments couple errant passes KUZMA head three look. If you handle the ball a lot, you're going to get turnovers, but still some of these turnovers were especially ugly and unforced, and so that's something that can be fixed and I? Think will be, but it's something to keep an eye on. Other thing and I saw a few people commenting about this in the in the chat here. Okay well here. Let's get into it. Lakers talk from periscopes that did the magic have thirty more field goals also. Yes, let's talk about why that is all right, so you've got in total. Field Goal attempts, you've got for the magic ninety nine field goal attempts for the Lakers seventy two. That's a big discrepancy so turnovers a part of that every time you turn the ball over, you lose an opportunity to take a shot at the basket. The other part of that and this is where I was going next is the boards, the offensive boards and look some of it was fluky. There are a number of times or the magic. We'll take a shot and the ball would just take a funny bounds, and it'll be a long rebound. The we saw some possessions where they got three four offensive boards in a row. And that's a problem for the game. The Magic finished with twenty offensive boards. That is way way too many. The Lakers had eight. You're giving them multiple opportunities, and that's what's giving them extra shots now. The offensive rebounds also coming because they're missing so many shots, the magic couldn't hit anything in the first half, and so that creates more opportunities for offensive rebounds to when you're missing a lot of shots, so the discrepancy is probably a little bit smaller than what we see it as. They're getting more shots. They're getting more offensive rebounds because they are missing more. That's that kind comes with the territory, but at the same time it's a little bit of concern especially when the clippers who the Lakers seemed to be destined to meet in the Western Conference finals are one of the better offensive rebounding teams in the NBA, there a lot of teams that will punish you if you don't clean up the boards and part of that is because Anthony Davis went out now. People have been asking me. Are you worried about a D. Now? I'm not. It was an I poke I think he's fine. I'm sure it hurts, but I'm not worried about Anthony Davis, and by the way the Lakers made the right decision. There's zero reason to put them back out. If his vision is compromised at all, even just a little bit, and he doesn't see a screen coming if he. Reacts improperly to play, IF IS IS A. Field of vision is compromised at all is his ability to judge. Distance is compromised. You could be risking a much worse injury and so one hundred percent lake system. There's no reason to play in a scrimmage game. So that's what they did, but. but yeah, look this. That was an issue. The offensive boards those need to be cleaned up and yes, it does solve some of it, but it's still something. Keep an eye on last thing out of the bad. The fouls I thought that the Lakers look the magic did a good job attack in the basket, but the Lakers also got some rough whistles, but in general. They need to do a better job of defending without Phallic. Yes again. There were some tough lessons, but overall look at the free throws attempted here in this game for the Lakers. Finished and there were a lot of whistles in this game. That's why it was so long. Thirty six free throw attempts for the Lakers for the Mavericks for the Mavericks the Magic Forty Four so eight more free throw attempts and that a lot of that. kind of caught up later on for a while the discrepancy was bigger, so that was an issue defending without fouling, that was how the magic even stayed close in the game through the first half was by getting to the free throw line, getting offensive boards, doing those sorts of things and credit to them. That's what it seemed should do, and that's what we want the Lakers to do if they were struggling shooting, but but that's something. The Lakers need to get a little better defending without fouling all right. Let's talk about some your questions and I don't want to dive into a few individual players. David C. Said, Lebron was chucking look to a degree, but whatever I mean you let him knock the rust off very once. I'm not I'm not worried about that. Lebron tried some very deep and unnecessary threes look. There was one that he took from almost like half court because it was a two for one situation remember. He knocked those down right before the League suspended play, he was hitting those and so i. don't blame them for trying I. mean he's he's made them. He shown as he can make them so okay I'm okay with them shooting those. Dwight needs his legs under him. Again got outward today and couldn't set illegal pick to save his life. Yeah, you know what I part of it is Dwight setting illegal screens? Part of it is. The reps are really really watching him for whatever reason. There other players get away with a lot more than Dwight does and I don't know exactly why that is. Maybe he has a reputation for playing that way, but but they really keyed in on Dwight Howard in that that certainly disrupted his game, but again remember these guys have been off for a while. It's going to take time for them to get back to where they need to be. Blake Morrison what happened to our defense. So the defense actually look great during stretches in the first quarter, there are a number of times where the magic attack. The basket and I thought Danny Green in particular. His defensive rotations were phenomenal. He came down. In fact, there was one play I think it was. Aaron Gordon and both ad and Danny Green blocked the shot at the same time as a simultaneous swat. Great stuff to see and so for certain spells. They looked really good. For other times, what we saw is kind of what we saw against the Dallas Mavericks where the Mavericks do a great job of switch hunting force you to switch, and then you get a bigger player on say. Luca Johnson, and then they take advantage of that they get into the paint. They force your defense collapse. They find open shooters. The magic do that to just not to the same degree that the mavs do, and so that was a credit to the magic. Magic for for being able to put the Lakers in tough spots on the defensive end, but we also saw a lot of miscues I attribute that to rust and putting new players in there were a number of times, Jr Smith got lost on the defensive end, specifically where he just made the wrong rotation, and yeah, you wound up with an open basket that happens but that's. We should anticipate that we should expect that. This is their second game since March. Since March tenth was. Yeah, that's that's crazy, so it's going to take some time to get that all back together and given the circumstances. I'm not surprised. That looked a little bit rusty, but I'm more encouraged. We also saw. Stretches where they looked dominant I. AM worried about Losing Avery Bradley. I think that's an issue and I think we've seen that. Be An issue with the issues with the problems trying to stop. penetration so that's look that's GonNa. Be a thing and that's going to be something that frank was going to have to try to scheme around. Christian John. Del Rosario from facebook server. Do you think coups can coexist with Lbj? In a d? Good question, so we know from his sats during the year. Cow coups is much much better when he is on the floor with Lebron and not Anthony Davis. If it's Lebron Coups Kuzma stats go up. If. It's Lebron Kuzma. KUZMA stats. Don't go up. WHO's stats? Do not do not look so great. He's basically the guy when it's just him and Lebron. He's the guy that we expected him to be this year. If you look at his stats now, he's not consistent with it, but on average he's putting up about the numbers that you would expect to see our cal. Kouzmin somewhere taught my head in the range of eighteen points five six boards something like that. That's solid. That's pretty much what we expected. Cow Crews a this season. But the issue is. Can he live alongside Anthony Davis with that lineup because if he can, and we don't know Vogel's GonNa keep tinkering with things, but if he can, then we're talking about going back to that that death lineup that we were talking about last summer where closing games with Lebron with a d. with Kuzma sharing the floor and a small lineup, and then you throw in. In a couple of guards, whether it's your whether it's a case, EP, Dane, green or or dion waiters gets in there or anything else speaking of which let's talk about Dion. We've gone too long. This show without talking about waiters island. Let's take a trip. We're all going to become residents of waiters island. Let's take a look at his stats and what he did today, dion waiters main. Everything that I. was hoping Dion waiters would be so far. We've seen it. In these first two games, and that's not to say. He's been perfect as he hasn't. He's made a number of mistakes, but I like what we've seen from. Okay, here's what he did today. Twelve points five of nine shooting brilliant, two of four from three absolutely take that all day. Three boards one assists the top spot. Four turnovers don't like that, but. We offering Bogle, using dion waiters as the initiator as the ball handler in fact. Believe it was in the second quarter, we even saw Lebron on the floor and dion waiters bring the ball up. Dion waiters running the offense and again I'm not an anticipated that happening in the playoffs. The is going to be in Lebron's hands, but this is framed mogul, tinkering with things and trying to find out what he's got, remember, no, Rondo. Vogel has already talked about how you might need. Dion waiters skillset now. We had a few bad passes. He had one where he drove baseline in the second half and. Any tried to throw this crazy. Pass across the court that has sailed abounds some ugly stuff from him. Frankly, but he also had some nice ones where he got baseline, and had a nice dish to Dwight. Howard pastor to one out of pocket, pass and found him look, he's A. He's not appear point guard at all. He's not even close, but he is a playmaker. This is a guy who hand pass the ball. It's not his default setting the I thought and dion waiters had. It's very clearly not pass the ball. That's not the way he's wired, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that but he can do it. He can do it in a pinch. And so I was fairly encouraged by what we saw him today as far as handling the ball, but what I really liked is what we saw. When he when he got going on offense, he did have a couple of shots he took where maybe out of rhythm there was even one airball, but other than that crunch time fourth quarter there's. There's dion waiters I taking and making tough shots, and this is exactly what we talked about. This is why you have dion waiters, so when the Lakers second unit bogs down when the offense stagnates in the past, it's been hey, Rondo here's the ball. Four seconds left. Go do something and opposing teams. No Rondo can't shoot, so they sang off and it winds up being a mess. That's that's not fair Rondo and that's terrible play for the team, but they don't have anybody in the second unit that can just create things now. You've got the waiters, and that's exactly what he did. He made some tough shots. He gave them that little scoring punch that they just didn't have before I. also liked that a couple of times. He took the ball to the basket off the dribble. Overall. It's only. Only two games and again invoice far from perfect, he made mistakes out there which you would expect but I'm very encouraged by what we've seen from. Dion waiters so far. He's been looking really good and I think that he's going to be a really nice fit. In terms of what the Lakers need again, not perfect player, but something the Lakers could absolutely use in terms of what he brings to the floor. Raider Mike from facebook said waiters should start now I'm not going there I'm not going there Mike I'm not ready to say. Waiters should should start. There's no. Reason why you have is to be that scoring. Punch off the bench, right so you Kinda Geek that if you put them in the starting lineup and would you sell them in for? I'm not taking kcpt off the floor to put in waiters starting lineup. PCP's been the best shooter I'm not taking Danny. Green, who knows all the defensive switches and can get hot and it has that veteran presence? I I. Don't see it but I like him coming off the bench David see from Youtube, says waiters is our will yeah I mean. He hears Kinda like that. That's that's his role. He's not as good as Lou Williams all right Lou, Williams can blow up for twenty five points in a second waiters can blow up to, but I'm not expecting him to get quite those numbers Williams is also a better ball handler than wages, but the idea is still the same. Be that scoring punch coming off the bench Here's question from Youtube Patriots. Haven't seen you in awhile new ink. kind of for a long time I decided an outline here on my him, and I got half of it filled in more coming soon, but. I think you should just noticing more now because it's more filled. Rubber Gonzala Trevor. Do you think dion waiters will be in the final. Up in the last couple of minutes against teams like the Clippers in the box, I think it really depends and I'm getting the same question here from Capitol. Han same question. Look I don't think necessarily that he's a lock to be in there I think Frank Vogel is going to do what he's done all season, and what that is is right. The hot hand whoever has been playing the best is going to be the guard that he turns obviously the death lineup for what to call it that. Absolutely Lebron absolutely Anthony Davis, the three players outside of that it's going to depend on matchups, and how the game's going. It might be Kyle Kuzma. I'd say pretty strong likelihood. It'll be especially if he's playing like he played today. We'll get Kouzmin in there, but then after that you're looking at Danny Green. KCPT Alex Caruso waiters could be in that make certainly you could also depending on who you're matched up against. Look at running a true center. Hey, you could run a true center against A. You're going to get Nick Larussa Vich. Dwight Howard has been having success against defensively. He could see himself in that closing line-up, too, so it really depends on the match ups. I. Don't think that waiters is a locked to do it, but if he's hot. I could see where he could be in their. Zaki Zaki's from Youtube so trevor. D Like Alex Caruso fits with the LINEUPS. Crew so was he was a little bit off today he made a couple of Nice plays drove to the basket. He was a little bit too aggressive on the defensive end, and that caught up to him, he did get a few tough whistles, but I'm not worried about Caruso. He's got the ability to get out there and make plays I know. He was frustrated with the refereeing and I think that came into play in his game, but but I think he's going to be a good player. I think that I think Caruso is your best bet to be the avery Bradley role be that kind of defensive stopper, and not that he's quite as energetic on the defensive end as Avery Bradley, but positionally he played very well, so I think he can be a benefit to the team they're. Adrian Torres from periscopes and Trevor The clippers and rockets I feel are a threat in the west of the Lakers. What team concerns you so I agree hundred percent the clippers. Absolutely, the clippers are good. What scares me? The most about the clippers is their offense feels very easy. They get buckets very very easily, so that's something. That worries me whereas it feels like sometimes, the Lakers have to really fight to get points, and that doesn't mean they can't but it does worry me that the clippers might have a little bit of a higher ceiling right now on the offensive end, because the buckets can come easier, but again the Lakers also have Lebron and it's possible Lebron. Just says nope we're not losing this game and takes over. That has certainly within the range of possibilities. The rockets are a team that had been on my mind a lot just because they're weird. There are they I mean they're playing like six, seven, six, six and under lineup. And it just takes you out of what you WanNa, do you? You're not expecting what they're doing. It's like. there's a lot more skilled to it than this, but it reminds me of win. I was a kid and my sister and I would play a video game. We play mortal combat. We play streetfighter to something like that and we'd be playing and we would I would know all the moves and all the COMBOS and all that kind of stuff, and then she. She's mashing buttons. Jesus mashing buttons just know what she's doing, and she'd be me and get so frustrated. She's not playing the way out. Expect so you've got different things happening at different times, and that's kind of what the rockets are. You're not used to playing against a team. That's that's small. You're not used to playing. It's the team that puts a six seven guy on your center. So then you start thinking. Oh well, let's just force it in to Dwight Howard. Let's force it in jail McGee. Because they've got such an advantage, and if they can't score efficiently, and then the rockets are coming down hitting threes. That can be a problem. And and so that's the team that definitely concerned me nuggets, also our team that I think are very very talented. They just haven't quite caught up as a team in terms of chemistry to their talent level, so there's some definitely some good teams here in the Western Conference speaking of which I'm hoping. I'm hoping that the clippers have to play the rockets or the nuggets in the second round. That would be my ideal situation. I'd like the Lakers to avoid them. I'd rather see the Lakers play in the second round. Okay, see or Utah, I think both are more traditional teams and I feel more comfortable with that. myron chain from Youtube said why didn't Jr shoot three's Today, so Jr Smith did not shoot a three. He was one of five from the field. Did do a nice job drawing fouls, four or five from the free throw line, and that certainly helped the Lakers, but they just weren't there. He didn't have the opportunity really did shoot threes. I didn't see any times where I thought Gosh. Jr should really shot that, so I mean credit to him. Him For not forcing any threes. That weren't there He did attack the basket. I thought he had some really creative passes inside in the second quarter. Dwight Howard stuff that I didn't see coming didn't think jr had those passes as part of his arsenal and I don't think Dwight did either 'cause. They Kinda surprised me at a few really tricky passes inside so behind the backstop and everything and Dwight Dwight was was not really prepared for it. Danny Green also got a free spalding tattoo he cut to the basket didn't have his hands up and Lebron just drilled them with the basketball. Always keep your hands up when Lebron James has the ball. Ethan Yay for facebook. Clippers are turning into the nets. Trevor L.. This is in all caps, so we know he's serious. Is Out. Are you still worried? Yeah, the clippers are all going to be back by the time they start playing games. The guys who have left the bubble they're not. They're not gone further coming back. Sound like they're locked out. Charles floors with a good observation. Danny Green didn't shoot three's to Danny Green didn't hit threes. He shot two threes, but he didn't make them, but again. This is one of those Danny Green Games so. When the Lakers were signed Danny, green I, said okay. Part of my job and Alex Crucifix. Small to is going to be to explain. Why they are beneficial why these guys matter when they're putting up stat lines that are just. Like you look at the box score and you'll see from Danny. Green today Danny Green. You'll see one point. Over three shooting. Two rebounds three assists, and you go. What did he do? Our we're expecting. What because of the amount he's getting paid. We're expecting ten fifteen points a game from Danny. Green were expecting knockdown shooting every night. That's not necessarily going to be the case a big part of the value that Danny Green brings. You're not going to see on a box score, and it's the same thing crusoe. It's the smart switching on defense. It's the versatility on that end of the floor. It's knowing where to be at the right time. It's part of the reason why the bench unit that was Danny Green and combined with coups and Crusoe Jerry Smith why they had such a nice run because Danny Green was putting himself in the right spots, and that forces defenders still get pulled out away from the basket because they know he. He can make shots, so that's part of the value of Danny. Green, so you look at today stat line from you. Go Danny Green a terrible game now I actually liked. We saw from Danny Green on the defensive end of the floor, and there's a lot of value to that. Would I like it if he shot three for three from deep, absolutely gorgeous, we'd love to see him hitting shots all the time but in the flow of this game I didn't think it was a bad game, but if you look at the box score, you go, Danny Green's terrible. What's he doing out there? Just wasn't wasn't his game. As far as the offense event defense was good. Somebody says it's always a Danny Green game. Danny Green is not the guy that's. GonNa put up a bunch of Baux score stats. It's just it's not his thing. That's not what he does. He can put up some decent across the board numbers, but they're not going to pop off. The screen at you are right That's that's the way he is, he does. Raider might put it succinctly said. Danny Green Does the little things you matters. Yes, the little things that don't show up necessarily on the stat sheet. Earl Clark from facebook. Is this the Earl Clark? Former Lincoln. Said Caruso Cook waiters and Smith who plays the most, so we haven't talked about Quinn coat yet. We'll talk about him and just a minute so out of those four. WHO GETS the most minutes I'm going to say Caruso. Caruso because all the advance stats advanced metrics. Say That Alex. Crusoe Lebron James Together is a recipe for success. They've done very well. We know that Frank Vogel Trust Alex Caruso I question how many minutes you can feed him like. Can you play Alex crusoe thirty minutes and still get the same level of intensity all game long. I don't know I. Mean he's only averaging about seventeen minutes a night for the season. So, we don't really know what that is going to look out of that group I would anticipate Caruso getting most of the minutes because you can trust them I think you can trust them to close games. We don't know what we're GONNA. Get Outta Quinn Cook. With two minutes left in the fourth quarter of a really close playoff game i. don't know for sure what you're going to see him. I feel like even though CRUSOE hasn't been in playoff situations, we've seen him in big moments throughout the season enough to probably feel a little more comfortable with him in their waiters and Smith. The new guys coming in we saw it. We saw a bunch times today A. A mystery the defensive end leads to baskets especially in the playoffs when you're paying playing the top teams, if you're playing the clippers. If you're playing the box and you miseration, they are scoring. They will not let off the hook. They will take advantage, and they will punish you for it so if you're frank. Vogel. Do you maybe worry a little bit about throwing in Jr Smith even though he's a veteran. Just as he's learning schemes and things late in the fourth quarter, might that take away some their minutes, and you could say the same for dion waiters so again I go Caruso. Let's talk when Cook the real quick. So I think in Cook and I will say this last summer. I was unreasonably excited for. I was way way too excited for Quinn Cook. I thought that he was GonNa just be I thought he was going to beat out Rondo. FOR MINUTES AT THE! Point Guard spotted. Second Unit. Didn't happen. Obviously, but what I loved about. Quinn Cook was that he was a forty plus percent three point shooter. He can work out of the pick and roll and score their. His defense wasn't great, but my thinking was. This guy's such a knockdown shooter. You're going to have to put them on the floor. And it didn't work out that way Rondo got the bulk of the minutes Rondos even playing more minutes than Caruso. And Quinn Cook was largely forgotten and I think the quote Cook. What I really like is that he's played with a little bit of a chip on his shoulder like he's played as though we have something to prove and he does. He absolutely does because his contract for next year is only a million dollars guaranteed. The Lakers can waive him and say. Here's a million bucks. Go Away. We WanNA roster spot rather than have you. That could happen. And so Quinn Cook is playing for his future right now. A Lotta minutes, but now rondos out. No, Brad these out. He has to seize this opportunity and I think so far he has. This morning this game, nine points, three or four, shooting one of two from three to two at the line, three boards three assists eighteen minutes. He was plus twelve. Look. Quinn Cook was good and I liked Quinn Cook last game I like win coke against the mavs I love that he looked for a shot more as the game went on, he was aggressive. The defense is still a concern. The defense is always going to be a concern, but at least like the intensity. He's brought there. It's very possible that there are games where you can't really put them in right. If Russell Westbrook is on the floor and Quinn cookies matched up with him. He's going to get torched. You can't put him on pay if it's Jamal Murray for the nuggets. You can't put them out there. Paid their times where you can't, but there's times where he can't play Dwight either or jail when teams are going small. You can't put Quinn Cook on the floor in some situations, but against the opposing bench. I think that so far. He's shown that he's got something I think so far. He's shown that he deserved more minutes than what he got during the regular season. and. That's exactly what he's trying to prove right now. And I think he's done well. I've been I've been impressed and I would not mind seeing and part of the rotation. If this keeps up, I'm not saying twenty minutes a night for Quinn Cook talking ten minutes. Get Him out there. Let them knock down a couple of threes. He is a good shooter there and his play out of the pick and roll his ability to come screen. pull up for about fifteen feet. which is the shot that all teams give up? That's what NBA defenses are conditioned to give you take away the three. You take away the layup. You give up the mid range while Quinn Cook very very good at hitting that mid range that becomes as much as we say. Oh, mid range jump shots. That's not efficient basketball. That's not the modern style of play. That's gross. It's fine. If you make a high percentage of them, look a rip Hamilton from years ago, he made a living off of those because he was money on Curl Jumpers from about fifteen twenty feet. Quinn, Cook, not those down. Gay If you're hitting a very high percentage from them from there. It is one hundred percent just fine as a shot. Because you're generating points per possession I think you can do that so i. still think that there is life here on the Lakers with with Quinn Cook. Let's do a few more here. Somebody asking Trevor, will we have bill and STU back on Monday? I don't know I don't know what the story is going to be on. The announced grew. By the way on Monday I don't think I'm going to be able to do a post game show because I have a conflict and it's a middle of the day game. It's a noon game on Monday. Let's remind by. Stomach Churn when I saw the timing for that. That's that's not good. But after this, they're all like evening games. It'll be fine. Few more questions here I do a couple more more points I wanna get you for. We call it a day. We all go off and enjoy Saturday. Cable Birger and said what is your starting lineup for the Lakers? It's exactly what we've seen. Exactly what we've seen it is the starting lineup for me for the Lakers. Danny Green Kcpt Lebron. Jail. That's it pretty simple. Keep things the same. And then you put in You, put in you. Put it in. In Bradley Spot? Ahmed odd non from Youtube said. Who Do you think guards? Lou will after what we saw today Casey after that display or a more traditional defender like Danny Green. I don't care. I don't care like I care. Who Defends Lou Williams but I also. I think I care more about who Lou Williams is trying to defend. That's what I'm thinking about more. It's probably Casey P that gets the first crack and I'm sure Dana Greenwood. Get some lakes and things like that the bottom line. And it's almost impossible to do, but you stop Lou Williams from going left if he goes left. You're in trouble because he can pull up and hit that three even on the move. Okay, so that's a problem. He's also so good at Baiting reps into drawing ended blowing their whistles. So he's. But if you saw the last Lakers clippers game. The Lakers, just I, mean they. I'm sure he's probably Lou Williams probably still having nightmares about that. They were relentless. They picked on him and picked on him and picked on and picked on him one play after another the fourth quarter the entire last. What five minutes the game are Lebron getting a screen from whoever they were trying to hide Lou, Williams on didn't matter. Sometimes, it was KP. Avery Bradley Danny Green at one point whoever Lou Williams who's guarding. They put him in pick and roll and demolished him destroy I. Wasn't I mean? That was beating. They went right after Louisville and just picked him apart. So if he's on the floor, yes, he can get can get hot. He can light things up. The clippers will probably scheme things to try to help him out a little bit better on the defensive end, but. I still think he's such a liability there that the Lakers might be able to take an advantage. Show as good as he is as good with score as he is. I think it might be a good thing for the Lakers when he's on the floor. If they can continue to take advantage, those pick and roll situations. drummer talk about tips to the Knicks didn't expect that. I'm happy. Jason Kidd doesn't leave. Yes, a look when we already lost Lionel. Hollins, so now you know Jason Kidd sticking around not that he was gonNA leave for the stretch anyway, but that rumor came out yesterday. That kid was suddenly the front runner for the next job and now suddenly today. What would bomb? Tom Thermo. But happened Gosh. That's weird. It was just Jason Kidd. Negotiating tactic. That's my take. My take is that maybe they were trying to work things out with with David? The Knicks, and Tibbs and and there were some sticking points, and so you know you release out. Hey, we really like Jason Kidd and then Tim does says okay well. I'll give on this and this because you're looking somewhere else. I think that's what that was. I think that was a negotiating ploy with typical than than anything else. That's my they really like Jason Kidd, but it just feels like the timing of it is a bit odd so I think it was more negotiating tactic than anything else. somebody mentioned Zach Levine rumors going to be honest guys. I haven't dug into all of those yet. I was so locked into the Lakers game i. saw some stuff popping up, but I don't have enough background knowledge to really get into it. At this moment. It's something I am going to take a look at because he's A. He's the guy who I think would fit great with the Lakers if they could figure out a way to trade for him, but apparently there's some trade talks with some other teams. That was the gist that I got from what I saw Next time. We do a live show. Though well. I'll. I'll be up to date on it. right. So who is your second unit? All right so this question from Youtube second unit. Right now and by the way this is. Very early, right? We've only seen two scrimmage games. Not Real game scrimmages, so keep that in mind. This is probably going to going to change. K. But what the way! I see things is that the second unit is going to include White Howard for sure cow Kuzma for sure. Right you're also going to include some players like I. Think Dion waiters is going to be a part of it. Case. You've got those three. Alex crusoes in there as well. After that. Probably look in Quinn Cook. And that means leaving out JR Smith. And I. Understand why murky certainly can get into the mix to once? He's back and fully integrated with the team, but for right now I'm thinking. I'm thinking when coke is played his way into that second unit and Jerry Smith I. HE NEEDS a chance to knock off the rust, but if I had to pick one of Dion waiters, Jr Smith now picking waiters. No question. It's easy easy decision at this moment and I thought jared fine today, but dion waiters has been very good, so that's probably my second unit. I'd be looking at Caruso Cook Waiters Coups Dwight Howard k, maybe against the bigger lineups you pull out Coke Roulette cruise around the point, and then you're adding Mark Morris and having Koussa's the three. That's what I'm at. question coming in everyone's been so focused on the clippers. But how do you think the Lakers matchup against the bucks? Okay so the bucks are a tough match-up. Part of it is because of Brook Lopez and his ability to stretch the floor. He pulls like we saw today. We saw jail having to go out to the three point line to deal with Bruce, which same thing with the bucks where you've got to deal with with Brook Lopez and that's a challenge because one of the Lakers strengths is. They have these bigs that can contest drives to the rim, but if you have brook. Lopez standing at the three point line can't really do that. So, that's certainly something overcome and obviously Janas onto gupo is is amazing, but I think the Lakers kind of found the the formula to beat the bucks in the last game that they played against them. That's the bucks are tremendous. They're rotations. Their offensive ball movement is just pinpoint accuracy. They know exactly where they're. Shooters are going to be open. They're really really good. And so even knowing how you should beat them, it's not that doesn't mean you're going to beat them. But I think the Lakers kind of found the path to success, and that is make you be a jump shooter, which always much easier said than done, but he's not gonna hit like five threes like every game like you did the first time the Lakers played the box, so you make him a jump shooter more often than not you do what you can do. There you try to stay at home on their shooters as best as you can. And you and you can protect the rim, and if you can do those things and get some stops and get out in transition I. think that's where you can hurt the bucks because their defense is very good. You're also GONNA need big performances out of both Lebron and a D and then another player to step up some. Maybe that's a waiters. Maybe Dion waiters goes for fifteen points. That's what you need to be the bucks. Timothy Riley ABC. Fouling out was hilarious. Yeah, look agree. Why are we failing? Players out in scrimmage game but. So that was frustrating. I was hoping it'd be like preseason where you get extra fouls, but didn't happen so I'm sure Bruce will be fired up next game because he did not look McAfee. Jeff, Quinn, do you think the Big Gas Maybe a little bit, but that's to be expected right now. They haven't played basketball time so playing running up and down the floor. That's going to be tough. Ara Guys. We're GONNA. Do One more. We're going to do one more. Sampack. Do you think if a D. plays? The game is different? Of course he's one of the what five best players in the game. Yeah, if you have him out on the floor, this game against the maverick magic is going to look different. Okay. Let's finish with a more detailed one. I know he said one more. We're going to do two more. Oh David See, who won the over under on Dion I gotta go back and Look I. Don't have Chris Remembers this stuff i. don't remember exactly what we said. What did we set the over under at? For Dion waiters? Because tonight he put up I keep saying tonight this morning. He put up twelve points. I want to say I think Chris got on the nose I wanna to say, he said twelve and I said I was GONNA say thirteen. But I didn't want to do the prices right thing, so I said fourteen points. I think Chris got it on the nose. If I'm remembering this correctly and I'm sure you guys in the chat can can remember. Okay Tony says I had fourteen. That sounds right. That's that's what I remember as well. Robert said I said twelve. I'm pretty sure it's Chris who said twelve. So many says I. Think Gary One Gary was even on the show. Gary and off doing. They're doing their thing today. Ra Guys. I I do believe I'm going to Tex Chris on text Chris and tell tell him he won. He hit it on the news. That's pretty good. That's pretty impressive. Ara guys look appreciate your joining me. Obviously, this I'm used to doing this in the evening. So this is weird. A morning game and all of that again next game Monday taking on the wizards. I, unfortunately I don't think going to be able to do it. Post game show, but after that we're good. After that we're good. We should have a show every single time so appreciate. Appreciate you guys joining me. Thank you and look guys I'm just I'm so happy. It's so great to watch NBA. Basketball Game Specifically Lakers basketball. I really hope this This bubble thing continues to work out because I love having you guys here and being able to chat with you. Go over the whole game and discuss everything so appreciate all of you watching. If you're listening to the podcast version, appreciate your listening. If you want, follow me on twitter, you can find me at tremor. Underscore Lane. You can find on Instagram at troubling NBA. And follow the Lakers nation accounts at leakers, nation on twitter and facebook at Lakers nation official on Instagram, and then do me a favor. Guys. 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Analyzing the impact of the Deion Jones contract

The Falcoholic

13:49 min | 1 year ago

Analyzing the impact of the Deion Jones contract

"Hey guys welcome to another alcoholic podcast. The official podcasts of the Atlanta Falcons on the S._B._A.. Nation podcast network I am D._F._W.. <hes> David Walker and I'm here today with a quick podcasts to talk about the details of the Dion Jones owns contract extension with the Atlanta Falcons now deal Jones in the Falcons agreed to a new contract last week. <hes> we finally have the details of that contract how it breaks down the two thousand nineteen the guarantees sees it structured and ultimately of course how this is going to impact the team in two thousand nineteen and beyond so let's jump into those details <hes> as far as Dion Jones contracts is concerned so he is signed a four four year extension with Atlanta Falcons. He signed that on July Twentieth <hes> two thousand nineteen which of course was last Saturday. The extension is worth fifty seven million in new money and that's an important detail with eighteen point eight fully guaranteed guarantee signing and a total guarantee of thirty four million across the contract now his base salaries in two thousand nineteen in two thousand twenty or both fully guaranteed he also has an additional option bonus and we'll discuss why that was is used <hes> in this particular case <hes> and the effectiveness of it in helping to protect the cap for the Falcons in twenty twenty so first of all this look at his two thousand nine hundred numbers his base salary has increased slightly slightly. It was in the one million dollar range on the previous rookie contract <hes> he will make one point nine five million his base salary in twenty nineteen <hes> he is getting in eleven million dollar signing bonus <hes> and because this is an extension attention <hes> it is also going to include a two thousand nineteen as part of the years you could actually call this a five year contract for your extension which means that signing bonus of eleven million <hes> can now be spread across the five years <hes> that he will be with Atlanta Falcons. That's important detail <hes> his he's going to get a per game roster bonus in two thousand nineteen of five hundred thousand of course that guarantee <hes> salary one point nine five million all of that is going to add up to a cap cap number of about four point seven million in two thousand nineteen that is roughly a three and a half three point seven million cap increase versus what he was going to count for on his rookie contract and that's GonNa take the falcons salary cap which was in the ten ten to eleven million dollar range depending on your source. I am using over the CAP. If you guys are interested in seeing these numbers had to over to cap dot Com but it's going point to reduce the falcons salary cap room about seven point seven million in two thousand nineteen so they still have plenty of room. Obviously these numbers are before the Allen Bailey contract hits more than likely Bailey will be a hit of three to four million against the two thousand nine hundred number which will leave Falcons with approximately three to four million in cap space for the remainder this year <hes> that three to four million honestly is probably not gonNA be enough to sign any more. Notable free agents at this point. I suspect that they wanNA keep that <hes> so that they have cap space to accommodate any performance <hes> based incentives that could hit at the end of the year and ultimately count against the two thousand nineteen gene salary cap and remember from cap standpoint anything that's not used in the previous year does roll forward to the next year and that's going to be important for the Falcons in twenty twenty because the situation is far far different than the cap space that they have available this year so as we look at contract we begin the twenty twenty has base salary which again is fully guaranteed goes up to five point eight five million now we still have the pro rated bonus of eleven million <hes> the counting against the twenty twenty salary cap but now in twenty two twenty we also have a seven million option bonus that seven million option bonus is again fully guaranteed. That's part of his guarantees but what this is allowing allowing the team to do is to give him a lot of cash again in twenty twenty but to spread that cap hit across the remaining four years so we haven't eleven million bonus that hit in two thousand nineteen. That's going to be two point two million <hes> <hes> <hes> Perth five years of the contract. The seven million option bonus is now going to be a one point seven five million over the four years twenty twenty three twenty twenty three so the pro ray. The bonus hit on the salary cap in twenty twenty in the remaining years of contract is just under four million <hes> so instead of the Falcons taking a seven million hit <hes> for that option bonus twenty twenty <hes> they will take a one point. It's seven five million hit now. Ultimately <hes> with the per game roster bonuses that Dion will receive in twenty twenty <hes> his captain number is going to increase to ten point three million and that is the last year where his salary is going to be fully guaranteed nells we go on the twenty twenty one <hes> his eight point two million dollar salary will vest to afford guarantee if he is still on the team on the fifth day of the League year so in theory the imprint the Falcons could cut him after the twenty twenty season and be neutral from a cap standpoint <hes> they would obviously be taking on a ton of dead money if they did that and ideally they were. They would not be cutting player who at that point we will only be twenty seven years old in the twenty twenty one season but this is effectively the first <hes> point in the contract with the Falcons can get out from under it with essentially a neutral cap situation anything before that point is going to be a negative hit against the salary cap now. What does this mean for the Falcons? <hes> we'll I the remainder of Jones contract his cap hits in Twenty Twenty one through twenty twenty three escalate to twelve point six million fourteen million and ultimately the final year contract is sixteen point four million <hes> which is in twenty twenty three year he turns twenty nine very similar to what they did with Gregg Jarrett. I suspect that the team will not want him to play on that that contract in <hes> twenty twenty three <hes> given that he'll only be twenty nine years old he could be in for another big contract so long as his performance merits it over the next four years which <hes> given how he has performed thus far. There's no reason. I think that shouldn't be the case so even though this is a big deal for dion more likely he's going to be looking at another contract again in twenty twenty three and I doubt that the Falcons if he's still with them at that point are GonNa want him to play under a sixteen point four million <hes> cap yet so keep that in mind <hes> for the rest of his tenure with a falcons more likely we'll see another contract coming in <hes> in the next four years with that said the falcons salary cap now again. This is based on over over the cat. This is based on projections. We do not know yet what the twenty twenty salary cap is going to be N._F._l.. Teams the projection right now. It's GONNA be two hundred million based on that projected salary cap out number the falcons right now are three point four million over the twenty twenty salary cap. That's important because this is not including the Allen Bailey deal which will have a some. I'm sort of hit in two thousand twenty <hes> it does not include <hes> any contract readjustments to Julio Jones which we believe are coming within the next week <hes> and it does not include extending adding guys like Austin Hooper so as you can tell the twenty twenty salary cap is in a much more limited position <hes> than we would like this is the result of having to pay players and having in a very successful draft class like the Falcons did with the two thousand sixteen draft class <hes> and this is just the consequence. These guys are going to get paid there. You go either GONNA get paid with Atlanta or they're going to hit free agency that they're going to get paid aid elsewhere. What is notable is the fact that Dion Jones contract came in at a lesser contract value than what C._J.? Moseley received which set a new bar in the market and that is a testament to the falcons getting this deal done with dion and to dion in his agent realizing that the mostly contract was more of an outlier and not necessarily reset of the entire market for linebackers in the League now the Falcons Seller situation after twenty twenty gets a little bit better but again to be honest. This is a situation where as we go on the twenty twenty <hes> and again this the three point four million over the cap in two thousand twenty s probably going to get even worse as we add Julio Contract and if they get an extension done with Austin Hooper who his numbers aren't even on the books for Twenty Twenty <hes> that number is probably gonNA get slightly worse. <hes> is some of the moves that you guys will need to pay attention to <hes> next season. <hes> you've got guys like Matt Ryan Grady Jarrett <hes> Jake Matthews <hes> who's salaries in those seasons could could be converted into bonuses <hes> what that will allow the team to do is to reduce the cap hitting twenty twenty <hes> push that and spread it across the rest of their contract <hes> freeing-up cap space in twenty twenty but of course reducing cap space. In subsequent years this is important because this is essentially what the saints have done for years with the contract with drew brees and some of their higher pay players <hes> it's effective but of course there does eventually come the point where you have have a ton of dead money. That's going to end up in future years so the Falcons are trying to balance this with the need to keep in pay the players that they have drafted <hes> guys like Greg Jarrett Dion Jones obviously deserve deserve <hes> the money they're getting their fantastic players key players on this defense <hes> so definitely <hes> you know worth it to sign him but it does create cap complications so some of the names again with those salaries converting to bonuses and twenty twenty. I think unfortunately we're also going to see some players who are going to be asked to leave in that. Could include guys like Mohammed Sue Alex Mack has <hes> a ten point five million cap hit in twenty twenty. My hope is if he still wants to play in the still playing a high level that he'll look at a a short term extension to reduce that cap hit and stay for another couple years <hes> but realistically basically <hes> the nature of the players on his team is going to have to change <hes> we're paying young guys <hes> and that means that some of these veterans who are getting paid more are probably going to be out the door. It's just the reality of the N._F._l.. And the fact that you can't pay everybody so with that said the Dion Jones deal ultimately is going to be a very good one from the Falcons. It's a day they've done a really good job of making sure the cap hits are not too extreme in the first few years of the contract act. <hes> Dion is getting a lot of guaranteed money as a part of this and again <hes>. I can't think of a player that deserves it more on this defense in the fact that they got both Grady Jarrett and Dion Jones done <hes> before the twenty twenty off season also gives is in the ability now to work on deal with Austin Hooper if they're looking to retain him and it also gives them the option of using the franchise tag and not having to debate which the three guys are going to apply that to as a twenty twenty off season season comes around so the Falcons are in much much better shape from a negotiating standpoint <hes> they do have a lot of work to do to free up to twenty twenty cap space but the the most important detail that we do not want to overlook here is the fact that the team team has gotten too young very defensive player signed <hes> they did it without breaking the bank without setting neutrons <hes> for defensive tackle and linebacker and they've got them here for the next <hes> several seasons through twenty twenty three <hes> where they can again look at getting these guys <hes> signed for potentially final contract with Falcons with that said. 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Rolling Without Rondo, Waiters Island,  Most Important Guard, More

Lakers Nation Podcast

48:42 min | 2 months ago

Rolling Without Rondo, Waiters Island, Most Important Guard, More

"Bleeding purple and gold from the heart of Los Angeles. Is the, Lakers nation DOT COM podcast euros Trevor Lane. Hello, everybody, welcome in Trevor Lanier for Lakers nation DOT COM. It's nine o'clock Monday evening. That means we're here. Talking Lakers basketball with you a lot of things to talk about because the Lakers are in Orlando. We're getting ready for basketball to be played again. I can't wait, but now we're down another guard the Lakers missing Rajon Rondo now. He broke his thumb and he's GonNa. Be out six to eight weeks. We're going to talk all about that. That and what that's going to be in for the Los. Angeles Lakers joining me tonight. We've got Gary Sheffield Junior Chris masterpiece masters well, unfortunately I think he put a master lock on the power at his face. The power is out, so Chris can't can't join his your. How you doing man. I'm doing really good pretty boring day. Considering I was watching Lebron Billy I believe it was a d in cooked play, basketball and NBA Two K.. Running my park against random fans of it's pretty entertaining. I know Chris told us to do that Yup. Maybe a couple weeks ago, so I had to buy in and entertainment for about thirty forty minutes, so yeah, that's about it other than this Rondo catastrophe like. It well I. Guess they did get a break. That's pretty bold. That was bad. look. Yeah that that was the big news. The broke last night. Kim Break Rondo breaks thumb in practice. This is a problem that he's had several times. He's had hand injuries in the past. And here we are again, and now he's GonNa. Be Out. However, it sounds like he could be back by the second round of the playoffs. The. Is. This is the best time injury can happen I guess technically especially considering that timetable that six eight timetables a long time, but we still have two three weeks until they really get up and running. If they get deep in the playoffs, which expects them to Rhonda should be able to contribute late especially when they need him against the clippers. They're going need their debt against those rosters against Lou Williams is on the floor. You're going to need a Rajon Rondo at the point of attack. Being need that they cannot, they cannot afford out Lebron out there. This is really just kicking up. The minutes of a lot of people excited about dion waiters and we'll talk about him. I've been very excited about JR Smith He's guys I'll Caruso. It's their time and now it's just a lot more pressure on them perform, and now's the time they cannot come. Come out there and perform well because they don't have that depth with Rhonda. Yeah that and that's you know by the way guys those you coming in from facebook from periscope from Youtube. Appreciate you joining us here I've you're listening to the podcast version of this? Make sure that you're reading and reviewing subscribing to the show on on Apple, podcasts or spotify wherever you're listening to it but We're GONNA, be taking your questions and comments, but I'm already getting people saying. Why is this a big deal? And coming from you and me right like we're not the biggest Rondo fans. I feel like we're not going to be buying. Rondo jerseys probably. We talked about that. We had that going if we saw playoff Rondo Gary and I were both going to wear Rondo jerseys because we've been so negative about him. but look there's. Rondo as a player has not been great right since he's been a Laker in terms of the advanced metrics, all of that defensively knocked great shooting none of it. Has not been a great player. But if you're going to get something positive out of this was going to be it. This was going to be his time to shine playoff Rondo. We were going to find out whether or not always a thing, and now he's hurt for at least the first round. If not, maybe maybe more, and so you lose that opportunity. There's also a domino effect here where you hit a point. Where maybe you're forcing too many I WANNA see Alex Cruz play all the minutes that he can, but not Bradley and now no Rondo either that really puts a lot of the burden onto an Alex Caruso. Couple pope players like that. Yeah, I know totally agree in the real issue. Is that while we would like to believe that Alston Rousseau and Dion waiters and Jared Smith are going to be the guys who are filling in. I kind of agree with them, but Lebron James has everything to lose right now. He's probably GonNa take it upon himself the first and second round. He's GonNa. Get himself into basketball. Basketball shape quick. This guy has been training probably harder than anybody wrote. He's going to take it upon himself to make up for the loss of Rajon Rondo, the ball, handling the he was going to be able to do with the Second Unit Lebron James Miniature. Probably GonNA kicked up the way. We didn't really want it, too, but considering the situation with no avery Bradley no Rajon Rondo with the injury. The demand on Lebron, James, and the Anthony. Davis is going to be very high, so Lebron is expecting well rested ready to take on that challenge, but there's going to be a lot of pressure on him in particular, but he's going to need somebody to step up and I believe. Has got to be one of those guys. He posted earlier. Today I feel like I can handle the point of attack. I can handle the basketball. Put the ball on the floor They're gonNA need to do that. They're going to need somebody who can put the basketball on the floor in initiate often, so we have to look out for them well. That's an interesting point because Kyle Kuzma. They were using him a lot more in pick and roll. Season shutdown. They were putting him into that role situation as the ball handler, and he made some good decisions. It's not a natural thing for him, but we saw him get into the paint and then kick out to open shooters a few times. He's got a pretty soft touch once he gets into the paint so I can see why Frank Vogel and want to do that. I don't think that he's necessarily going to be your primary initiator. So. Let me throw out there. Because I know, we need to talk about about dion waiters, and by the way I am shocked at how many people have been in our chat? Saying what run does hurt? How are where have you been guys? This happened yesterday. Check the Lakers nation Youtube Channel. I did a video about it. Think the big news, but yes Rondo broke his thumb for those who were under a rock, and you did not know this, but yeah. It happened Quinn Cook. What about the Lakers brought him in last summer to be a point guard? They brought him into maybe challenge for minutes. We know he can shoot the basketball defensively, not great, but neither as Rondo. Why should the minutes go to Quinto? They could and we did discuss this team defensively. It's going to take a step back. They're not going to be. Is that juggernaut defensively? Especially, the point of attack guarding guys ninety four feet. He's a great option. He can shoot the basketball. He has plenty of Reps. Plan Golden State, catching and shooting. It's exactly what this team's GonNa need from on not expecting it really just run the show, but he can run a few pick and rolls like you said different. He can shoot the bastable should. Should provide some space at least somewhat how who's also enjoys the play with other players that create space. It would help through so maybe you have a Quin Cook POW Kuzina not great defensively unit, but you're not gonna be able to have the best options available to you when you lose an avery. Bradley GonNa have to find ways that you can't succeed offensively. Quinn Cook might be able to do that. And you know what I'm not gonNA. Write them off. I wouldn't say it's likely. Because the defensive deficiencies have been pretty pronounced. Quinn, Cook you can put them in pick and roll, and he's got a little jumper. He struggles getting to the Rim and scoring there. But I still think there might be a role for him and here's the thing. These with Rondo out now with brand the out the three scrimmage games, but you're going to be televised on spectrum. The threes scrimmage games, and the eight seething gains, which were the Lakers are pretty much just preseason games because they're. They're fairly locked into their spot. Those games now become even more important because now not only does frank. Vote will have to figure out WHO's GONNA take on. These minutes now is to figure out the Rondo minutes and again. Rondo might be back, but he's going to have to really tweak things. Play with a lot of stuff so I'm going to be keeping a very close eye on guys like Quinn Cook and another one that we absolutely need to talk about, and I'm seeing Alex crusoes name getting thrown out there and we'll talk about him, too, but let's talk about waiters. Island deal waiters the fanfares. fanfares growing for them I'm seeing more and more optimism online. Maybe it's because we have to to be optimistic about waiters. Because everybody else seems to be seems to be falling by the wayside He's into me. It really is. He's a great town. Don't get me wrong. He absolutely has the talent, but dion waiters. He's the one guy really right now on this roster. Who wouldn't surprise me if they can get him the basketball with the? The Ron James off the floor. He can handle the basketball. Come off a pick and roll it. We believe Quinn Cook. Might be able to do but I know. Dion waiters can do that on the basketball for he has that type of skill set. He's going to be as committed as he's ever been. There's no bigger stage for him if he fails here with the Lakers. There's probably no other team is going to believe we could pull the. The best out of waiters. He understands that so is a great opportunity for Dionne way too particular just for his individual career, but we might be able to take advantage of that situation that he's in right now, but jared Smith again same situation. Rondo, I know we've talked about the defensive deficiencies that this team is going to have without avery Bradley Rondo. Really is not the band aid for that whatsoever. He did not play great defensive now. It's almost like were amplifying his deficiency on a basketball floor were saying look? We Lost Avery Bradley Yeah. We need you to step up defensively Rajon. Rondo is probably the last player on this Lakers roster. You want to make up for that deficiency, so that's the hard part about this and Dion waiters and JR Smith offensively. They might be able to at least amplify this basketball team to a point where you can make a subtraction defensively, but at least some type of addition offensively, and that's why I was hoping that this team offensively can get better while at the same time hopefully diminishing. Really rondos affect. Defensively so right enemies. It's going to be tough. They're putting guys in situations where they're really not meant to succeed and okay, so let's talk about that so waiters. He's not a point guard. He's not. He's he's more. He's more of a to. He can pass the ball little bit, but today Frank Vogel talk a little bit about. dion waiters, perhaps running a little bit of the show for the second unit. Just seeing how it works and I think maybe in a pinch you can do that. You're big frontal. Jerry Smith I. Don't feel JR Smith. Is that second? No, not at all. He's really just a guy who's going to stand on the side when when Dion waiters handling the basketball or maybe a Quin Cook Jarash. That's a guy who just create space, so it's really going to get to really come down to dion waiters if he can handle the basketball. Basketball on a short period of time. Give the Lakers some good minutes. That's all this Lakers team needs. They don't need big minutes out of some backup point guard Lebron James on the floor for almost forty minutes a game there, so it's not this long period of time like hey, go the show for twenty minutes. That's not really what the Lakers on it, so you just need somebody to buy you. Time won't Lebron. Yes, and they've really got three different guys who might be able to contribute and hopefully they can because if they can't. It makes this team. That doesn't really have a ton of depth. It makes the situation even worse. Yeah, and again. That's coming from us. WHO and we'RE NOT RONDO PEOPLE? They were not. We're not big proponents of Rhonda. We've been saying the mets need to go to Caruso the minutes to go somewhere else, but the bottom line is. That's one less player for Franco will. Will the call upon, and that's not a good, you know. What of crews having a bad night you could turn to a Rondo. We've seen once. Every seven or eight Games Rondo has a good performance. We starting. It's OK he fantastic We also saw the bulked up. He's looking pretty strong. He's not gonNA lift weights with a broken thumb. question coming in your. From Choco. Thunder on Youtube said CAN Bradley now changed his mind. Since the roster spot is open now, link has already made their graphic. I don't think he can be on the team. Yeah, he! They are not. They actually cannot because they replaced him because they added Jr Smith. They replace roster spot. He regretted. The unfortunately is done. They can't go to him and say hey, look, buddy. We really need you now. You sure you don't WanNa. Come over here to Orlando can't do it because Jr, Smith has already taken that spot so. CanNot do that unfortunately doesn't work that way. I get a lot of people saying okay only out six to eight weeks. He'll be back before it's a serious issue for us. That's if he comes back at the end of the timetable. That's also assuming that he comes back and he's one hundred percent game speed, and all that he's been off for four months already. Now you're going to add another six to eight weeks on top of that and the game environment. He's going to get. Get thrown into isn't scrimmage games. It's going to be playoff basketball. Probably second round played basketball against a team. So I I don't think it's all good for. Rondo and he's just gonNA pop back in and be fine. I think there's going to be some struggles getting him back up to speed and I wouldn't assume that he's just ready to hit the ground running in the second round. Yeah, and he was playing all season. He still wasn't really up to speed with what they needed. Pretty basketball. He wasn't great all year. He had spurts here and there, and that's part of his skill. Talent is that most of the guys on this Lakers roster did have spurts at some point in the year cow coups shooting spurts where he was great, but for the most part Rajon. Rondo was not playing basketball now. He has this injury. We're GONNA THROW IN A. A playoff atmosphere. Everyone's going to be ready by then by the time Rhonda's coming back. There's not going to be guys feeling each other out. They understand now okay I've got my shot. There's GonNa. Be a lot of missed shots early, but by the time Rondo comes back though shots are going to be falling, everyone's in a really start getting into rhythm but basketball. Rondos, probably not one of the guys I predict would be able to come off the couch said Okay I've healed up my hand. Now I'm ready to play playoff Rondo, I can't. I mean he's A. He's a veteran I. Think has a better shot of doing it than say Taylor Horton. Tucker got hurt getting back up to speed right like he's I think he can do it, but being whatever it is thirty, three, thirty, four. I think that's going to. It will be easy. That's for sure Somebody's asking here on Youtube. Saying, let's not forget about TCP. We're not I'm assuming and Frank Vogel mentioned this. KC, he's GonNa, be the starter. He's going to be the starter at the two. We're talking about replacing Rondo TCP. He's not the ball handler. He's not. He's not doing that. So that's why we haven't mentioned Casey, but I think that the domino effect of this losing Rondo Losing Avery Bradley. Yes, it puts more pressure on Alex. Caruso to step up, but it also means Casey kcpt has got to be really good as well because he's probably going to see instead of seventeen eighteen minutes a night like it was during the regular season. He's probably saying more like thirty. Yeah, no totally agree in. Let's be honest. All this really means is who are the Lakers going to trust when Lebron James comes off. Off The floor, who is dribbling the basketball up the floor in aalst Russo in the regular season, he is guarding point guards, which is great, but he is never shown the he is a ball handler. You might play point guard, but he is an off ball off the right wing card, and that's with the Lakers really needed all year because Lebron had the basketball. But when you're in a situation where the bronze on the bench who is going to blow up the basketball, who is GONNA? Come around screens and make the extra pass. which guys on this roster can do that and nobody is really solidified in doing that. Role Rhonda was the one guy that's the reason. Reason I put him on. This team is hoping that playoff. Rondo could come out and he would be that guy who they can trust. Be a general for six eight minutes, really never a major. That's about it. Yeah, and it now you're you're hoping okay. Hopefully, dion waiters can give us that sixty eight minutes. We need that spurt, and we're trusting and guys who haven't shown it in a long time, and while we do believe they can do it. We don't know if they will and for for the most part these other rosters. They know who's going to be doing what which role certain guys have certain minutes thinkers in this short period of time these four or Or Five Games are GONNA. Be figuring out the rotations minutes. Everyone's got to pay attention. What is Caruso? What is Casey doing? Who's on the Florida close games? It's it's going to be very interesting to see because cal coups was going to be one of those guys like I was saying earlier. They're going to try to see maybe if we can get the ball in his hand, maybe can get more offensive firepower out of Kuzina putting the ball in his hand. You'd never know and that's something that Frank Vogel is. GonNa have to figure out very quick. Yeah, look at it's I. think that the Lakers? I actually mentioned this on a show earlier this morning. The Lakers are in a better position to deal with this then a lot of teams. If you're the Portland Trailblazers this is Ono. We have to hit the ground running right away because we're fighting for that playoff spot. If you're the rockets, if you're the thunder. If you're the jazz, you're looking at your seating and hey, we need to be good right now. The Lakers their up five and a half games. These games they can treat as almost like practice. Now you don't want to you. Don't take your foot off the gas pedal. You've by the end of it. You WanNa be really clicking and ready for the playoffs, but it's not as imperative for them so frank. Vogel can still play around with rotations and figure out what works he's the lake. They've lost court advantage right, but this five and a half game lead has bought them the luxury of having a little bit more time to figure. Figure things out. Yeah, healthwise, that couldn't be any better. Yeah, in terms of with Bron. James and yeah, he's in great shape eighty. All these guys seem to be in tip top shape, no surprise there, but the fact that we do not have to force them to hit the ground running. That's going to help the Lakers down the run. It's not great on your body. It's not great on a hamstring. When just okay you can get a you get a tweak early on you haven't done. Done anything in a while. You don't have the luxury of okay. Let me just let me get this back. Feeling. Right headed into the postseason when you're Portland and your Damian Lillard when you have to go full board those next two three games that is crucial. That's going to be huge going into the first second, and then into long series later on in the third and fourth round, heading into the NBA finals. That's a lot to ask. These guys especially from a roster like the Lakers. Lakers have there's very top heavy. These guys that are at the top of the Russian Lebron James Anthony. Davis, those guys have to be fresh, and that fortified game lead where they can figure out the rotations really figure out the bench this four to five games all about the Lakers bench, the starting lineups going to be fine I don't have any doubts that rod that Lebron James Handling The basketball with Anthony Davis on the floor, a healthy coming back from a shoulder, finally a healthy anthony. Yeah I don't rip. WHO's on the floor with those guys? They're going to be unreal, but once you throw the bench out there. That's what these minutes are going to be about. What is Smith what does dion waiters doing and I'm looking early for dion waiters to see what they can do ballhandling wise, because he has that physical ability to go out there and dominate for ten minutes. Minutes, that's the guy probably keep an eye on more than anybody else. Is Dion waiters just because I've really you know we should Seattle Kcpt? We know we should see Alex crusoe waiters is a bit more of that wildcard player like Danny Green same thing. We've got this history with them, waiters. We don't know yet, so I'm really curious to see what we get out of him. A few people throughout tailored Horton Tucker look, he's good. He's really good, but he's also nineteen I believe at this point We've been been preaching patients with him a long look if he shows up in Orlando and he's matured and he's ready to roll, maybe I think they should absolutely throw him out there for some minutes, but. As much as I love Taylor. Tucker and I think this guy is going to be good. I think it's a it's a stretch to say that he's going to be ready. At this point to compete in playoff level basketball for the Lakers where one defensive miscue is usually gonna mean a basket and came be the difference in a game and in a series. I don't think he's a guy. You can turn to right now again. Maybe he proves me wrong, but and I. Don't want to sound negative about him. He's a guy that I like a lot I. Just don't think it's fair to him or fair to the Lakers to expect him to perform in a playoff situation, but again give him. In the seating around given Vinson the scrimmages? Yes, so one thing about wearing tucker. This thing I do like there's not going to be any atmosphere. Is Good for a young player for sure way crowds, I mean we saw early and Kobe's career where he's on the road and it is very difficult for non players. In particular, even players veterans, veteran role players struggle to play bass them on the road. This is going to feel really eerie this this this entire atmosphere of Basketball Lakers vast right second feel like has as much pressure because of the lack of fans though fans do a lot, that's that's the amazing thing anyone who goes to a basketball game. The fans feel like they're on top of you, and you can feel how important the game is just based on the the energy. The energy matters so it might feel a little bit more like Horton. Tucker is used to playing in the D. League, playing with really no crowd, and that's at least more so what he's used to, and that could help them. Potentially I wouldn't put any expectations on, obviously, because of the Lakers are relying. Relying on a nineteen year old to weigh the difference between a title and not dots, probably an issue. There's bigger problems going on. That's what they're doing. I mean that's to me. That's that'd be a joke to expect him to do that. Would I rule out his contribution? Maybe you can throw them on there and see if he catch the catch fire Rodeos, gives you some big minutes, and then you build on that Yup I can see that and they might do it maybe early on in those couple of games, those four to five games when they're trying to rest more veteran players, get him. Some experience can do. Maybe even you never know. Throw out there with the first unit yet. Twenty minutes and to see what he can do you let him get a rhythm exactly thrown against the wall of sticks, and if it does Quinn Cook again we see in an his name's come up a few times. If Quinn Cook you throw them out there with the starting unit, see what he does. Lebron James Does with Anthony Davis. You never know because if he can get some confidence. Is many players we've lost. You've lost a few guys already. We need all these role players to come in confident because you never know when someone's going to have their Derek Fisher moment, you never know when need a cooked hit one shot in the third, and that my manner that can make the difference in we saw in the NBA finals all back in two, thousand, twelve, a Meyer chalmers hits hits a three pointing to. In the third quarter just completely changing the momentum of a game who knew that Lebron James Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade? We're GONNA need a Mario Chalmers off the off the bench, or at that point. He was coming off the bench to hit some three point three point shot to change the complexion of a series. Why would you think that? But Warden Tucker or JR Smith Dion? Waiters Kyle Kuzma Goes Quinn Cook if these guys can hit one shot here one shot there because of the confidence they build, and these fortified games, or or maybe early in the playoffs, could mean a title and we need everything we can get considering the loss of rally yeah yeah absolutely absolutely with. Let me. Ask you this, so no avery Bradley no Rajon. Rondo Aside from Lebron and I know we. Somebody says Derek Fisher in the same sentence as Cook Gary he's talking about his four year or whatever, but he's talking about that somebody who can step up and hit a big shot that maybe doesn't have the biggest role on the team Fisher had a big role, but he was also known for hitting hitting big big shots, and he wasn't the star guy or anything. Anything like that you want to say Okay Brian Shaw Mario Chalmers, like if you're out there, he's not saying. Cook is the same as Derek Fisher could goodness gracious? Don't here or not saying I mean the situation if you watch the ninety six bolger thinking Michael Jordan's GonNa. Make every shot we need right. We don't need anybody else's most clutched. Most people believe Michael Jordan. Jordan Pauley Bryant. He's the most lunch players of all time. Michael Jordan's GONNA need a Steve Kerr, but guess what he did. All of said. You Need Steve Kerr. Russia, he's actually coming to him before the play. Saying look, you might not be thrown, certain role players and conversations with Robert Ory or whoever, but nobody Robert Ory was going to be the guy who just. Just solidifies an MBA town. Nobody thought that coming into the playoffs, but they prepared these guys. They prepared. The Derek Fisher's I'm going to need you to make big shots regular season for people watch and I was watching a lot of the Phoenix Suns and you're seeing role. Players buried at the end of the bench, and then in the middle of the season they. Make a contribution and then a happens in the playoffs. Simmons shocked by it. You shouldn't be shocked when these role players contribute there. Because we prepare them the entire year to contribute, they're going to do with Quinn Cook. We'll see you know what they're gonNA do him what they're going to do a job. They're going to do with all these different role players coming off the bench. See who we can maybe rely on for big shot. I'm assuming Jefferson has a lot of a lot of history in the past of coming through in big situations as a role player. Batman. That's really what they're going to need. So while they're not starving. They are just as important as our star. Because without them, we just have to dominant players that fall short in the end. It's really tough in the aggregate. If you get Danny Green making some big plays, you Jr. Smith Nick its place. Dion waiters. You get Caruso. Players that making plays all night long that becomes the production of another star. Danny Green comes out, and he has a series in the NBA finals be played poorly all play offline, and then comes out in the NBA Finals against the bucks, five or six three inches, five or six threes in a big game, so a big game seven, and I must say love. We knew Danny. We knew he was. He's clutch, thank. Thank God. We did all this. We have the best management everything we do and we're going to be so happy from that one individual right. No one thought Mike. Miller was going to be the big guy who's making six seventy degrees in a final series. No one thought that I was going to happen. And we still torching kids that you saw the video is making. As, so I'm just hoping that they can figure out in this short period of time who we can rely on in a big and find one or two guys that we can rely on. We're not going to be able to replace Avery Bradley. It's not going to happen, but if they can just soften the blow abandoned on the wound, Lebron James Anthony Davis. There to determine and I believe they'll get it done I sure hope so Let's let's throw this. Saturday I'm GonNa toss the question to you in in everything. The chat facebook Youtube Periscope feel free to answer as well. Assuming. Let's take Lebron out of this. We call the broader point guard, but let's say Lebron is not part of the guard rotation, which guard on the Lakers team is now with Rondo, Goan in Avery Bradley gone is now the most important. Right, yeah, and again I want to see what comes up in the chat here, too, but let's talk through it. Who who is the most important guard? Now just wanted to guards really. Like Oh yeah just guard period shooting guard, point guard doesn't matter. The most important guide to me has got to be green and the reason I believe that is not because I believe he's a better player potentially than dion waiters or anything like that. It's the it's the minutes really unexpecting him to play. I'm expecting. FRING Bogle to put trust in and considering. He's a veteran thirty minutes a night. You're saying expecting him to play. I'm excited to play a lot and if he's going to play a lot if he's going to be on the floor, he's get plenty of shots. He might not be the best player and because to me, I've always style. altrusa really was. Almost, the third best player on the team I mean easing statistically has been to me. He just seems like the third best on this team. That's shocking to sandwiches crazy. That's that's our big three hundred. It's a big three is not dead I. Don't have a big three dollars, Caruso and their the ball Bumba Bald, Eagle I don't know big boulder brand i. don't know what happened to be honest with you in. He is probably the third destler I feel confident saying he's the best player, but in terms of importance, the guy who's going to be on the floor for thirty minutes. We've been talking about. His minutes are going to jump. Danny Green's minutes can stay the same, and they're still high. What low twenty s or something, but I would expect I'm thinking playoff time. He's gotTa play and he's got. Thinking thirty plus I don't want him on the floor for twenty five minutes. He's not going to be hitting. Shots and percentages weren't terrible, but it felt like his percentage was higher than what met the eye. He didn't feel like he was making of funny shots. So. That was hard when you show me. The numbers earlier I was shocked because it doesn't feel like he's making the shots we need him to make. He was sitting. What thirty nine percent or so off top of my head, which is which is good. He was a little bit. Lower Than Casey peacemakers thirty eight percent, but with the raptors shot forty six percents, so that was a drop off right for for Danny Green, but I don't disagree with you. I saw a lot of I think that he's going to be certainly important. And he's being paid to be important making fifteen million this year fifteen million next year. Yeah I mean he's got A. He's got to step up there. But but I'm also seeing a lot of Alex Caruso and I can I can see that why Alex crusoe would be seen as the important because if there's anybody on the team who replacing avery. Bradley it's Caruso and if there's any replacing Rondo, it's Caruso but I. don't think Caruso can replace both of them. I think you replaced one of them. No one of their he could absorb one of their minutes. I? Don't think he can do votes, so somebody else is going to have to step up as well, but I get the argument for so I've seen a few people say Casey I saw a few people say Dion, waiters, even because you know what waiters island, the population is facing for winter's island, but I think it's going to be interesting to see which Lakers guard really does step up. Why just technically make while we were talking about guards? I totally agree with you there, but in terms of overall players. How. If he plays basketball, this team is. Over with he's the highest seafood group he if he can put the bastable if he can put the ball in the basket. This team has not losing. Because really he's been better. He's been better at the rent. He's playing better defense better team defender, which is great, but in terms of offensive shooting and making shots. He hasn't been doing that all year like consistently. He is not writing open jump shots. If he is just doing that, we might not even need really a abandoned for in terms of guard play. We might be able to just need altrusa defensively to just. Your best to slow down the other teams best guard you're. GonNa, be playing extended minutes, but other scoring the other point of attack is coming from another one of our forwards, and they're hoping really the calculus. What was going to be one of those guys who could play big minutes? He wasn't maybe going to start to play big minutes especially without Lebron or Anthony Davis, he was going to be the one who gave him that scoring punch. He was going to be that almost that Marie spades a guy who comes off, and he's a flank immediately right? That was what they were hoping to get their open Kim. Just figure it out. I wouldn't trust it obviously. He's been inconsistent, but his skillset showed US otherwise that this is why we are so excited to keep them. was that was what we were hoping? We're GONNA get so if they can do that shoot, we might not even need someone to really be avery Bradley might be able to just have someone. Just do your best to defensively be somewhat of what every Brownie wasn't offensively. Believe it to somebody else. Yeah, the that may be what it comes down to a few people saying that. That that cow Kuzin is not a good defender. saw that look, he's improved. He's improved each season. He is still not a great defender. There's no question that right, but if he can at least be average averaged defensively Ben then. That changes a lot for the Lakers especially if he is scoring, but again if he's not, that's when you turn to marquee. Morris you've got a fallback plan there? So that's kind of Nice but but I do think it does have this the highest ceiling. If he clicks. That helps the Lakers a lot. Somebody mentioned carols. Bronco mentioned that she saw that the The clippers are now the favorites to win the NBA Championship and I don't know if true I haven't looked up the vegas, odds or anything like that, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just seeing that the Lakers have lost to rotation players for the knee jerk reaction to be that okay well, then their odds of gotta go down, do you? You think the Lakers odds of winning a championship have gone down, and if so, how much yes, in just the not just in terms of overall talent, but when you make roster news this late, that's that can't be great. In terms of what people can expect where guys are GonNa be in terms of the team, chemistry and not team chemistry in terms of off the court. The team gets along better than any other group of people I've seen. These, guys, they love love playing together amazing but. Does Jr Smith know exactly where Anthony Davis wants to catch the ball. No, they're making these Rosser adjustments, and not just making adjustments to the roster, they're also making adjustments of players that are now just GonNa play offs. And? That's something that no other team really is dealing with. I don't know if you've heard the news. I'm assuming Lou. Williams is playing. Yes, he is yeah, and so the Lakers right now are trying to figure out. There's going to be a guard. That's going to score on Lou. Williams most likely he's going to be at the point of attack and he's going to be really at the top of the key playing defense. If that's going to be the case, the Lakers do need to find a ball handler like dion waiters. Movie talked about Dion waiters. If I can't believe that the Lakers are in a situation, we're. Going to have this much of an impact in the reason, our check is so excited about dion waiters because they know if this guy can come out and be the Guy Oh man hoping to see it's trouble for the clippers bench. It's trouble. Yeah, that's when you're gonNA. Start seeing extended minutes from Paul. George Acquire Leonard guys who haven't shown. They could stay on the. The floor for big minutes. They've always been on the plane. Their little spurts bright take time management. We like to come off the bench. Nice and Rusted Management Load Management Load Management's all you hear all day long, but what is quite Leonard do when you force Lou Williams when he's playing defense. We need a time out because of dion waiters. It changes the whole series. So, I'm hoping that we can get something. Did you see so? Waiters only played in three games for Miami, but did you see one of the games played against was against the clippers, and he made the big plays down the stretch blocked blocked Lou Williams twice on one possession, and then came down and buried the three. Is this assign I? Hope it is I open to side of things to come. That's probably that's probably why the Lakers signed him. I'M GOING TO GET AWAY Jersey new editor. Waiters comes out and he's if he's playing great basketball wall injury, they'll. They'll be some kind of Oh. We'll do it Yasser now. Whatever right it'd be playing to your expectations, Star expectations and won't be fair. We'll do waiters do. Because if brought this whole, Rondo thing just really nullified. Yeah, of course, yeah, I it really is so let's see. We've got a bunch of different comments coming in. Let's talk about some of these as they as they go. Blue we're all we're all. We're all in fact. Vogel mention that that he thought this was a few days ago. He thinks dion waiters is one of the more talented players in the league, and he was really impressed with him for what he's seeing now. That's coachspeak right so you always have to cut through that, but but still that's that's pretty high. Praise, the question is. Can waiters put it all together? The going to this is the team to do it on. You've got the chemistry. You've got the veteran leadership. I'm I'm hoping hoping fingers crossed every single. Coach ever has said that about dion waiters, so let's just hope our coaches right the son. He's hope just please let's hope. Let's see here Let's get into a few of the questions here in comments. Rick from periscope. Each of the scrimmage games really going to be televised. Yeah, that's what. My Buddy Chris gator. McGee mentioned the other day on. Twitter said the scrimmages will be televised on spectrum sports net if you're not in southern California. You're not in the La area. I don't know yet if those are going to be televised on like NBA. Or anything like that fingers crossed. Hopefully they will be but it it to me. It would make a lot of sense to televise them wherever they can. Because ratings their people are going to watch the hell out of that game. Even if it's just a scrimmage, it's the Lakers playing. People are going to watch it so hopefully. That's going to. That's going to happen. Dustin makes me watch out for Markeith Morris as well mainly against the clippers to be a key piece, and that is exactly why they got him defensively offensively. They need another wing defender. He's not quite as quick as you would wanNA perimeter wing defender right but. He's pretty tough. Durable. He'll fight guys and in for ten minutes a night. He can make an impact in my God. If there if there are solidified in a clippers, I want to see a fight so bad. Remember Lash. Once you brother versus brother. You WanNa. See barkeepers. Everything everything on the floor I want to see a full full-fledged fight, not one. That's GONNA cost spence whatever. Whoever on the bench? I don't care what? NBA fights don't cause suspensions. IDEA WANNA. See a fight night something because that fight between the clipper are the Lakers and the rockets was the most satisfying thing I ever saw. I remember such a frustrating game. I can't stand. The rockets can't stand the clippers holidays when Chris Paul was looking for the secret tunnel over the opposing locker afterwards. But. That's right. That's fine just seeing Rondo dissuading on Chris Paul that to me, that was the best that was the Bow Lakers rock. Yeah, yeah, I mean both different things. It'd be honestly, both they're just so satisfying because I can't stand the clippers. Anyone who's really stuck with us. They know I. Don I do not? Like anything about the coach like Leonard. His whole stick I'm so glad he didn't come to the Lakers. Honestly yes, I would have been better ever technically, but it come on. That would have been coy. Lebron, I don't care. That could have been your most talented big three. Totally totally agree. It's just I. I just don't. It just didn't mix with this. The vibe divide shared deadly. Not Saying I'd rather jared Dudley so. It's just that Kawai Leonard his personality. His personality his entire way he'd just conducts himself in prepares it just so I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do that Wednesday. We'll just take one off. Xactly the opposite of what the Lakers do. The Braun played the whole season. I'm not play games game. I can stuck with that. He didn't. He wasn't getting any of us. Right. Literally was playing hard. He was the hardest. He was diving on the floor early season. Something he's never done setting a great example Anthony Davis again playing hard playing through a shoulder lenders are planning to anything. No, do have a blister. He's not the wind blows so issues out. Yes, we would have been way better the title. Title would have been ours guaranteed. It's over with done with. Yes. I would have been happy not to sound. Be Upset. It'd be much more satisfied. The Lakers beat the clippers and let him just wasting time I know if he's going to be fine. He's rich living in la, but some kind of consolation will be the clippers being the little brother before they can head over to their new arena. Yes, that would be nice. Certainly Michael Pacheco from periscopes, September trevor. What are your expectations for JR Smith? Jr is already mentioned this he he said that all he's planning on. Doing is on offense. Stand in the corner and stay out of the way and ready shoot, and that's really all you need him to do. He's he's a spacer. Think kind of like Danny Green Danny Green does, and he just wants to play tough defense on the wing and that's. I mean that's brilliant. Forget because that is exactly what you need. You don't do things outside of your role. Do what you're supposed to do. It's like why you don't see when they're up on. Jail might mess around and shoot a three, but he's not really spotting up behind the three point line the tiny, even though he can shoot those shots because he knows what his rule is. It's two to crash. The boards play defense attack the basket. That's about it. Catch the ball and Dunkin right. Jerry Smith same idea. Stand in the quarter space. The floor at the defense doesn't cover you hit. A high percentage played good defense on the other, and that's what I'm expecting out of them, do the. Jerry Smith is probably the one guy can rely on because I haven't played in a while, but he knows exactly the role he's want to. There's there's no such dion waiters has never been in a situation where the hey, here's the keys and you're running the second unit. It's never really been a guy that they've thrown and said. Hey, you have to be all. Right I won't say I'm a suns fan transitioning, so let's keep it there. We're working on this is. Already said I'm going to be a fulltime Lakers fan to be honest with you. There's not many people watching suns games anymore shoot. That's true. The only guy I've ever heard that's really watching suns. Games, consistency ten Sicily is Damian. Lillard of all people says he watches every game. I wouldn't put it past to watch every game. Yeah, that is interesting and bowl to be watching full. Phoenix Suns Games because I will watch it when there's nothing on the clearly right, but my God is. But WHY ARE THEY IN ORLANDO? That's that's another question. That's your money. Yeah, that's really what it is. We're GONNA. Take take one or two more. You're, so we've got Where was it? There was a good one here. That, just had and now I'm stitched. James Smith winters. Sorry guys, these these go by pretty quick sometimes sometimes I. I lose them. I swear that was a good question just a second ago. Lakers heat a Lotta people are throwing some anti sons propaganda which. Is a good comment about the suns. We didn't know that. What the sons are bad. Come. Didn't know that. Well I, don't know. There was one that was in there. Okay, HERE WE GO! Here's one Khin We. They Wade someone and signed bookie so look only if someone test positive, and that's the reason in fact I saw somebody mentioned this earlier like what if they had said that Rondo no longer felt comfortable, and he was going home for covid related reasons before the. The injury was announced then they could have replaced him, but again he's coming back for the playoffs, but and that would be pretty shady but in theory. Yes, if somebody is leaving Kobe reasons something like that I. do it for you I. Do it anyway then. Yeah, you could bring somebody else in, but from what we understand boogies not not coming back to me. He might be shave. She else do it anyways. Just, get it done. Do it. It's. We're trying to win all means necessary. It doesn't matter really what we do so the boogie thing would be sold Jason Kidd's going to spill a drink on the floor. Oregon isn't it yeah? Shady, but I was not upset about it. And I thought obviously look Super Tacky, but he was just doing. Whatever do you see? Do you see Burke? Moore's play more center Yeah, I think he will against certain teams right? There's some teams that the Lakers can't can't play. Dwight can't play jail against the rockets. They don't run the Senate. They traded Clint Cappella. They don't have a real center. They're going to be running. PG Tucker as their five. Six six six seven. So you're going to have to play you'd have to play smaller. Could see. Mark Morris at sending. You also see a lot of ED at center. The clippers can go small, sometimes run MANTRAS hair. That's one of the benefits of Markeith Morris. No, he is not your ideal center. He's not a prototypical center He can't do the the typical senator things as far as protecting the basket, but he's got enough sized. Where if you go small, you can throw them in their in a pinch, and he's not going to be just completely bulldozed out of the post or anything like that, so yeah, I do. Do see playing a little bit more center just to kind of like some summit up, but only certain matchups, and that's really it's really gonna be solidified when Martinez more is really running out there against the clippers. He's going to be the most important player for the Lakers because defensively. He's going to be the guy. They throw on a quiet. Leonard for ten minutes. APOL- George because they really don't have a big body. Defensively KCPT I know he gives great upper in wise a great team defender. He's not that individual one on one stop. More is either, but his body allows him to be more physical on on the perimeter. That's something the Lakers. Really needed the reason they wanted Trevor Rees. They wanted a long body. Go out there, and at least give them fish or not gonna ever slow those got. You'RE GONNA slowing down, but you're never going to stop them. And that's something. That marquee has the physical ability at least to do so if they can do that, they can get that kind of contribution from Markeith Morrison. A Clipper series. It's really all that matters and I never thought that dion waiters Markeith worser potentially going to be the key to a laker shampoo. So the world we're living in the world. We're living in Chris Pastors are sitting in the dark right now places or places are on lockdown, and we haven't seen basketball in four months and waiters. Island might need to play the hero for the Los Angeles Lakers. Let's. Let's finish this. Jafari Wilson for facebook starting unit so starting five and you're five for the second unit, so let's let's starters I I think that's going to be easiest right assuming we're both in agreement that it's going to be dating green and Casey starting the back court Then you've got Lebron There Anthony Davis and most likely jovial I know we've talked a little bit about Dwight. For consistency, prevail yet and we making predictions, or are we saying that we'll give you predictions? Yeah, Jamaicans jail should play in I. Don't expect Frank. Global this Rosser has made a ton of changes that are trying to figure things out. Get Product and want to just make another change with it. Easy Yeah. Okay, so let's do the backups. The reserves so let's let's think remind five. Obviously Alec's Caruso thing has got to be in there. I think you're going to have to have to white I think. Yes, but those other two spots kind of up for grabs. That's we're typically you'd be talking Rondo and KCPT, so I guess we're probably talking. Mark Morris and Dion waiters right right? That's that's probably the way I would go at this point which it feels weird saying waiters overcook when we haven't seen waiters at all, but. I kind of feel like the upside is just hire with with the waiters in there. Yeah and I agree with what you're saying about Markeith but only in certain series. I think Marquette might not play too much. Series and I can see jr filling in that role just because he's just a more. That's a good lead, a guy who can shoot the basketball, but when it comes down to the clipper series, the big series on marquee is going to be on the floor and do expect I've always thought. Jeremy was going to find his way on the floor. Maybe their rotation lengthens out which. Don't necessarily like I. Don't like a huge rotation where bunch of Roger Plan. That's going to be tough so I. Don't know how to feel about. Dion waiters and JR and all these different guys trying to make little contributions, I would like something more solid Riley. Our roster construction doesn't allow that, and that's and that's a good point you like when you look at that second unit. If it rolls out the way I, said I mean if you've got Caruso and waiters and Markey and coups and Dwight, that's a huge lineup, because either either marquee for Kuzma is the small forward, but there's not a lot of shooting there, and so that's where I could see where rainfall would say. Say Okay. Well, let's pole marquee found or something and Toss Santa. Jr Smith just to space the floor, a little bit realistically, probably going to see a lot more mixing and matching in the playoffs, because it gave the going to play forty minutes eight. He's GonNa play forty minutes, so you're probably not going to see as much specific five million units like that, but if we were to to create, and that's probably the way I would go, totally agree in at least the very least a little consolation for us is the AD. Would Know Lebron on the floor wasn't overwhelming, but the fact that he's healthy now. Maybe that can really help the second unit just journey star, being able to carry more because physically he's more able. Anthony Davis was no question. He was ailing. Long tear shall nervous killing I mean there were sometimes where he get bombed and just take off. And it's not as obvious Gary Yeah very scary for this team particular but. He was showing he could play through it. He's said plenty of times. You said Multiple Times. Already I am physically completely ready to go. There's nothing holding me back physically and not should at least help a Kyle Kuzma and an Anthony Davis pairing when there is no Lebron James Anthony Davis should be able to go out there and go dominate for fifteen minutes. You never know, but I mean what the injury now you'd have to rely. Rely, on these role players, but with no injury. Maybe we don't have to rely on JR dion or are Rondo returning. We don't have to rely on them as much show his health at least me, some type of just some type of security and understand what he'll be for sure for sure, and hopefully hopefully it stays that way. Rick from periscopes that I'd show up. The clippers run into the Mavericks and rockets in the Playoffs Agreed that'd be nice. I'd also throw in the Denver. Nuggets in there would be a tough out for them, but I definitely hope that they have to run in some more difficult teams all right, guys. Thank you for joining us. Tonight with you're coming in from Youtube from periscope from facebook doesn't matter. Thank you guys for coming in. We appreciate it. We've been doing this entire time. The NBA has been suspended twice a week. We've been coming in and we've been talking. Lakers basketball, so thank you guys as always for joining us. We are almost there basketball almost back pretty soon. We're going to be doing post game shows, and that's going to be just a lot of fun. 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