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"You. Okay you don't franchise tag games. And you say franchise Shack Right. Okay and then do you WanNa get Sean James to a short term deal. He says no what do you do I think. I think you have to figure out what you're doing with James. Before you franchise tag shack. That was not the scenario once again. You're always changing the scenario. But I don't think that's the scenario that they should they should find them dot. It's it's just Saberi but what do you what do you do then you. I don't know I yeah I answered the call so I don't lose you you so hang on with me caller if you back me into a corner on that run yes. It's what I'm doing. I'm probably going to sign him for I. Ah I'll sign him but it's not gonNA like I don't want three years okay. I'll send you for four but less I don't know I don't want to let James Go I really don't Oh and here's the deal. I don't the question then becomes if we let Janusz go right what do you do. What is your plan? If they're playing is somebody in in the draft or they have a plan for free agent then that mitigates it. I don't know that there is another plan and I don't want there to be another plan. I want James back with the buccaneers in in two thousand twenty. That's that's what I WANNA see happen and I- if push comes to shove Janus train finally folks folks. I mean the caboose though all right caller who were you. You've been waiting so patiently. Thank you sorry. All right well My first time calling you guys I've never gets. Catcher live. Show managed Jason. Hey thanks for calling in buddy. Where are you calling from Good old Tampa there you go so hey homeboy. I guess we don't have to ask how you became a bucks fan. Sorry I got your Ah. I'm getting feedback I Yeah Been in Tampa my whole life and Grew up like in gentlemen show. That's usually I think that's how you start your higher buxton. Yeah Yeah we've heard from so many people you get favorite player and you just watch them and they come to the bucks and there you go so all right Jason in your family. John Lynch was my my favorite player growing up. He was already a buck. I'm twenty eight years old there you go. I love it I love it. What's on your mind tonight buddy Well I mean to build off what you said you said you would tag Jameis Winston. What where does that leave? You should kill Barrett because right. Now he's going to be one of the most shot. After free agent people cheer fame. Whatever turned Gamer tag jazz paycheck? Whatever he wants? That's that's that's it. Shocked wants to break the bank. Break the bank test paying whatever the only ones tag james that's Ryan. That's probably would cap allergy. You know but it's you. You know I mean I don't know what's going rate for for defensive. End like Shaq Barrett doing what he what he what he did. Ren Is it is it twenty million is it upwards of twenty for for de- defensive ends outside linebackers. Whatever you call him? Well that's the funny part You know this is what I wanted to talk to mark about but he started talking about how. JVP's GP's now the the unfettered leader in the locker room and sense you know my mic distaste for McCoy leader. I had to try to take a shot at him and mark. Didn't didn't take the bait but what I was going to ask a cook was that about franchising about Franchising Shack instead out of Janus. Now here's the interesting thing and it came out on the NFL insiders this morning like it. I'm not having checked it so I don't know what's true. But it did come from Jeddah. And she's he's got like the world's biggest database oppose stuff from so. I'm sure it's right. You Shaq Barrett. When he's franchise it's taking the average of ten but it's the ten linebackers backers which includes inside linebackers and also it also includes like four three linebackers? So yes it gets pushed up for the cleal Max axe but it also gets way dragged down for the inside guys so if he was a defensive end quote unquote four three defensive. And he's pushing like nineteen million as far as franchise tag but since he's quote unquote an outside linebacker. It's like sixteen million so that's sort the real lure of franchising shack. If push comes to shove you know but I don't think I don't like I've been told numerous times it's a numero uno number one. They're gonNA shine sack Barrett might Greenberg's always got it done. It's always worked out for the team and fair value and shackles. CAS said that he wants to stay. He's got two small kids. His wife likes it here. He's like it here. Oh by the way were rising team. Oh by the way. There's no oh state income tax. Oh by the way we gave you your first shot. And oh by the way he actually said I'm talking about Shaq Barrett that he would give a small discount to the buccaneers. Stay so it's a done deal but it's not the end Jason. Hello Yeah Great Y'all degrade as always plays again. Look for to listen to yours. Always Jason Jason Calls back in the future man all right. It's always great to talk to you all right all right. Thank you Harvard. The Jason Jason Away for us. Yeah appreciative pin you down right. I didn't I didn't think that that would go that long. Sometimes I'll I'll answer the phones. You just make that noise right there. Stop but then. We'll keep talking to finish up that train of thought like I'm going to hold this guy. I'm just holding on purpose right now. I don't know who who is. I was calling me right now. You're on the line with Brent and ran for the instant cast. What's up Fellas Cory Cory? What's up Corey Hayes? Yeah famous Corey on. TV got like twenty minutes of fame last week. What's up corey? How you guys doing man? I'm good thank you for calling us. Big Time Yeah. Yeah what's up signing autographs this week brother other A lot of times we. Yeah Yeah Buddy. Big debate high is what what would you do with him. What would you do with James? Yep and honestly like you guys touched on a little bit. The turnovers have of course been an issue with whole Collagen Dan professional career. But we saw something today that we haven't we haven't seen his whole five year career in Tampa and that's the buccaneers overcoming. Those turnovers I am continuing to push and push and push and the defense actually making a stop when the defense needed to make stop when we were ahead of the game You're right you're you're absolutely right and corey what I'm saying. I don't know if you heard my spiel just a few minutes ago. Like like all of that's true. Let's say this is what we continue to see for the rest of the season for the next three games. That's not a large enough sample size for me yet. To go to to make a final decision I need to see more you know and I need the only way to do that is to give him another year. I'm not I'm not ready to jettison them. Yeah you know what I mean because of everything you just said you know Jameson. Mrs Never played with the defense like he's been playing with the with the last couple of games right. We've never seen him over. We've never seen them overcome his interceptions right. But we've also said it's not because Janus like like. Yeah he may put them in a bad situation. But there's the whole other stuff going on with it too so you know that's my point is I need i. I just need to see more and I think the only way to do that is to make sure you're getting back next year. Give him another year. NBA's offense yeah absolutely. You're you're one hundred percent correct. I think think that Jamie needs another year Syrians offense because this is just a small sample size of what what he can do. Under Bruce Arians and company rascal the like the last three weeks Byron left which has done a great job. Play calling and been putting Jameson situations where he thrived The the colts going into the zone defense against us today was not good for them They had a great job. Of course getting interceptions off of him but when they went into zone defense defense and he had time in the pocket he he was actually he was lining up. He made some great throws he made a few throws downfield to OJ. Howard he made some throws was to for shock curve including the game winning touchdown? So it's like you touched on Brent. He he definitely needs at least one more ear Inn. Bruce Arians offense and I feel like the weight of the team is coming together towards the end of the year with these last three games. Coming up against the lions detectives in the Falcons. I feel like we'll we'll see exactly the nucleus of WHO's going to stay and who's going to leave this team for next last year with Bruce Arians and company. Yeah it's it's IT'S I. Yeah I just need another now. I think we're in actually brings up a great point all right toback. Because the let's let's face the franchise tag is kind of the way out right like that's that's sort of the the easy way. Well it's franchise having given another year. We'll make a decision later. You're Kinda punting the decision and for another year which is exactly what I'm saying and I think that that's what the buck should do. But if that's not an option right corey and I'll put the question to you if it's not an option and it's either signed James to the big contracts or you let them walk. Those are your only two options. There is no third option. Where do you where do you come down on that? Well if we're being completely honest it's a lot of people that really don't like the way he's been playing will come at me. But I think that he touchdowns than we talked about the turnovers and everything but the touchdowns the yardage the records that he's broken. I feel like He. He deserves a reasonable contract. Act Three four year contract. You guys like Jared Goff Carson Wentz Nichols all of them go out there and get these huge money guaranteed unsheathed. I feel like if those only two options than the buccaneers did not have the option to franchise tag James. Then I feel like you give him a reasonable reasonable contract around for four years one hundred million dollars because right now as it's looking the franchise tag for a quarterback is I. I believe what I saw was twenty seven million the if he got four years one hundred million and they probably frontloaded contracts so in case something went wrong they they would be able to do stuff like their contract geniuses always do they I feel like that would be smart. Move to give them a three or four year contract at like twenty five million dollars that that way and and Have Incentives and stuff where there's team options and stuff like two to two years if it's a four year contracting have they can have the fourth year team option. If it's a three year they can have the third years of team option stuff like that but I honestly feel if those were the only two options that Jameis Winston deserves serves to get another contract in Tampa. Yeah I I agree with that. I really do if that's if you're gonNA back me into a corner and go either. James Walks beside him to the contracts. Thanks you signed him to the contract and quite honestly as you said they're going to. They're going to work some magic. The team will habits out if they need it. You know but I mean four years four years one hundred million dollars. It's only twenty five billion a year which is not much for a you."
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