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House managers wrapping up their opening arguments in the impeachment trial the president's the White House defense team said deliver its opening tomorrow the house managers feel they have a strong case lots of evidence is not going to matter to Republican senators who seem to have already made up their minds if it doesn't what about the public will they be convinced to G. Terry Madonna director of the center for politics and public affairs at Franklin Marshall College is with us so does any of this matter do you think your everybody's minds just made up already yeah well that that's a great question the fact of the matter is that Democrats Democrats in that in in the house move to impeach two articles of impeachment with a couple of exceptions not a single Republican in the house voted for either of the two articles now our over in the Senate where it looks like it looks like the Senate Republicans to a person we'll both do a quick maybe one or two will not end the converse is true among the Senate among the Senate Democrats it's it's I mean literally out so far and you know we've got the last day of the of the house Democrats are making their the managers making their arguments before the Senate then tomorrow the president team takes over for three days then we have three days of of questions from the Senate and then next Saturday the way the schedule is right now it could change the get to decide witnesses but the bigger point is it's virtually changing no ones minds listen to this this is the real clear politics average forty seven point four percent of Americans say remove the president forty eight percent thing now but here's the key Democrats removed eighty five point five percent Republicans removed no eighty nine percent and the president's job performance has remained the same this was a real clear it's forty four point six percent positive about our ask you this I I I'm gonna ask you to be a little bit sort of clairvoyant how do you think how do you think history history books will look back on on this sort of era of American politics yeah how is it going to be go down in history books well let's start with this if we move aside from impeachment there's there's one word polarization we are more polarized as a nation than at any time since we've had scientific polling meaning huge percentage of people who who you know Democrats huge percentage of people on the other side Republic and and you can see that evidence in just what I just looked at with the removal from office but it also plays a role in in trump job performance ninety to ninety five percent of Democrats give president trump and negative job performance eighty five to ninety and even higher in some polls of Republican a given the positive so Democrats negative but not not sixty seventy percent we're talking about ninety to ninety five percent of Democrats disapprove of the job he's doing and the converse is virtually true for Republicans to support him yeah Hey it's way up there on on either ready if they're asking us if there are independence there are a few of them they can be moved do you think they are even watching this because maybe are you watch the opening statements and they start to lose interest but do you watch twenty four hours over three days yeah how do you go through that the senators themselves can barely get through it yeah well that's right remember they're only getting milk and water and at one end of Pennsylvania senator Pat Toomey is supplying all the chocolate I knew her side the right today yeah I'm I'm going to I'm going to be partisan their Pennsylvania chocolates I got the point that out so yeah yeah the independent by the way on removal forty four point six percent say removed and forty six point six percent of independents saying no actually the independence opposing opposing removal conviction and removal as up lightly but I I think you're on to something I think that most Americans are not they're getting it from the news from you folks on radio and from TV they're not sitting here as I'd been virtually forced to do by virtue of my job watching it eight ten hours a day and or they'll pick it up you know if it's here in snippets there but the fundamental the fundamental conclusion is simple as you and I speak right now there is virtually no change in the polarization and the partisanship on this issue all right G. Terry Madonna we hope you have coffee and not just milk and water a director of the center for politics public affairs Franklin and