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The attorney general in on whatever was going on there in the Ukraine I have never spoken to attorney general bar. You're about this investigation ever. I have been circumspect. Careful exceedingly careful. Not only that Parnasse knows that. I told a several times that I would make sure I would never go to the attorney general with it so I wouldn't compromise it. That's really on Fox News tonight making his own case while his has indicted one time. Buddy is doing the same Lev Parnassus attorney today requested that. Attorney General William Bar recused himself take himself out of the federal campaign finance case against Parnis. He's also calling for the appointment of a special prosecutor. Claiming prosecutors have refused to meet with him and receive receive information on the president. Giuliani and the other significant players here is a reminder of what parnes told Rachel Matto about the role all that Bill Barr played. Do you know if Mr Giuliani was ever in contact with Mr Bar specifically about the fact that he was trying to get Ukraine to announce these investigation into Joe Biden. Absolutely Mr Bar knew about that. Mr Bar known everything. The difference between white trump so powerful now. He wasn't as powerful in sixteen seventeen. He became the powerful when he got William Bar. That gets your attention as they say and with us for more tonight Maya wildly former assistant. US Attorney for the Southern District of New York now with the new school here in New York. And Rick Wilson Longtime Republican strategists co-founder of the Lincoln Project A SUPERPAC created created by conservatives with the aim of defeating trump and trump ISM. His new book goes a long way toward that very ideal running against the devil. A plot to save America got from trump and Democrats from themselves. We welcome you both tonight. Maya Wiley in normal times would love to have a lock accenture. Deal with the Fed's New York. Would there be an investigation. Launched as in. Do you hear what this guy is saying about people at the highest levels of of our government. That's a hard question to answer quite honestly Brian. And here's what I mean by that. I don't think there's any question that William Bar has earned earned himself and impeachment inquiry. So that's clear and that starts from his misrepresenting the muller pro report before. It's it's released knowing that Robert Mueller have some issues with the way he's handling it that goes to the fact that he himself has personally flown around the globe helping helping to kind of try to stir up some of the dirt that Donald Trump wants all kinds of reasons that we could list about. Why William Barr himself deserves some scrutiny? In some oversight that's very different from saying in in different world where Donald Trump was not president accident love. parnassus would be would have some kind of cooperation agreement. Or where William Sorry was not attorney general and that's because we just don't know enough about all all the evidence that the US Attorney's office has if your in the US Attorney's office and someone just doesn't have anything to offer you if they cooperate great. Meaning you don't believe they're telling the truth or you have so much evidence that you don't believe they can add to the evidence that you have or both you would have a legitimate reason not to enter into a cooperation agreement with someone and left Parnasse. We should remember eleventh. PARNIS is has some of his assertions and the Rachel maddow interview have documents. Those are documents the. US Attorney's office had and enabled him to share their other allegations allegations that he makes that. He says he believes but he doesn't necessarily offer any directed specific knowledge to suggest just that he could offer anything more substantive so. I think we have to separate out whether there's huge issues of public trust with William Bar and there's it's a question about whether I think the. US Attorney for the Southern District. Berman should cues with regard to Rudy Giuliani because he is the one who recommended Rudy Giuliani for US attorney spot with Donald Trump and appearance of conflict or appearance of impropriety. It is enough to recuse because we have to have the public believing in the institutions. But I don't want to go so far as to say that just by definition because left Parnassus is saying. He should have a cooperation agreement. He should have a cooperation agreement. Rick Wilson at a more basic societal level. When you think about it ah in the last seven to ten days we have come to know a landscaper from Connecticut? Who pardoned the double negative left? Parnis said he has never never seen him not drunk and now the European guy in the Maga- hat with a Belgian ip address. How is it that we we come to meet these characters? Surrounding in the orbit of the President of the United States there are some mystical gravitational force surrounding Donald Trump that attracts the worst griff tres scales scumbags roadside hobos incipient serial killers weirdos. These guys are attracted to him. Because they're like the d the D and E and F level operatives in this world and for whatever reason they feel empowered and it's pretty easy you show up at the trump hotel if you can afford the twenty two dollar cocktails. You're in the club. And so that's why we see guys like hide showing up and that's why you see all these all these other sort of oddball characters always surrounding trump and and and it's also because you know most of the people that that are in this rudy PARNIS orbit in particular. You know they come out of this eastern European whatever version of of of Hustle. Oh they're running is always inflected with whatever the sort of post-soviet corruption vibe and it seems to be very much definitional additional trump's orbit rick starting with you I want you and my answer the same question and I hate that. It's an a negative vein about the impeachment in trial. What are you girding for or resigned to girding for Mitch McConnell to choke this thing out as quickly as he can? There's no other option for McConnell right now if the dam breaks on any vote and the reason he didn't go for an immediate dismissal. Vote obviously as everyone else's covered was that he knows was if he loses one. It shakes the idea that he can control this process completely. So he's going to be very careful. He's going to move as quickly as he possibly can. He's going to try to make this as Dulles he can. Which I think is why as as clean with chain you earlier? He thought he thought he's GonNa win. By moving into the night. I think there's enormous public interest in this but on the optimistic side there will always be more information coming and these senators are not blind to the fact that trump lies to them all the time and that every time. They think they've gotten to the bottom of something with trump. There's worse things below it so I think you're going to see some skepticism building especially as the outside outside coverage continues to roll on in terms of both the story and the other revelations about Ukraine situation I can offer you my upwards of thirty seconds before I have to take our first break. I agree with