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News this is All Things Considered I'm Elsa Chang in Culver city California and I'm Mary Louise Kelly in Washington I will win South Carolina the words there of Joe Biden he was on the debate stage last night in Charleston along with six other contenders for the democratic presidential nomination maybe none of whom had quite as much at stake last night is the former vice president he has described South Carolina as his firewall and when pressed about it in the debate he added he plans to win the African American vote in South Carolina well Biden got some help today on that front from Jim Clyburn the long time South Carolina congressman house majority whip and most senior African American leader in the house endorsed by noon today and he joins me now from Capitol Hill congressman welcome thank you very much for having me was this an easy call or did you wrestle with it it was easy for me to vote for Joe Biden I didn't wrestle with well now that should be public and with us to publicly endorse a separate because I did not feel that that should impose on mac estimates but last Friday I went to a funeral service for my accountant who's also a good friend and when I got to the service I was there a bit early that walked around the church speaking to people rather elderly African American woman sitting on the front bench of the church she called me over to the saw the back of me she didn't say a word and I went over to her and she said to me people in this community want to hear from you but if you don't think you would think about it he please just meant that it was pretty much it who you voted for when she said that to me I don't know if brought tears to me the item I decided I'm going public this is the debate is over when you spoke this morning and gave your endorsement you've you talked about your late wife Emily this and that she loved Joe Biden and that's that factored into your decision however is it because politics can feel like such a cold sharp elbowed business these days and and listening to you now I'm listening to this morning it's clear it's the opposite for you this is personal it's all very personal with me though I grew up in the sixties Mar ninety six one college graduate I'm at John Lewis October nineteen sixty I met my wife in March ninety six we met in jail we were partners throughout this whole process that we were right up until she passed away last September and we talk about politics all the time we didn't always agree I used to tell people all the time I cannot accept my wife's words she bought it for me he has never yeah yeah yeah but she well Joe Biden there's all because she could relate to his backgrounds it abilities experiences a lot of people don't realize with the state of Delaware is number eight percent as well as African Americans in the state and people who live in that kind of environment you grew up in that kind of gradually working that time requirement tend to relate since you raise how far back this relationship goes I need to ask you does Joe Biden's age give you pause and I ask that with great respect I realize you're in your seventies too but as we hear NPR talking with Joe yeah here I checked as we speak with voters we hear some of them saying Hey I like Joe Biden but he's too old what I've said to people when they sell it to me as well it's a little bit like within that you would rather have it old Thurgood Marshall or young Clarence Thomas you know the fact that but you find that bad people's loss for so he ought not be a factor unless there are other things at play you have been pretty Franken talking about whoever the democratic nominee is they're gonna have a big impact on the ballot which you will be on I should note come November how worried are you about Bernie Sanders on that front also many times the effect that the in the back of the room for them so as a socialist remind us that history I used to teach history and I know what these feelings are about these labels and if a label like that sticks it can be detrimental not just to your candidacy but everybody who's identified with you do you think Bernie Sanders could cost you the house you meaning Democrats well if that becomes if he gets the five that way it would and the court we have to ask ourselves what's the chance of us holding those seats who gives us the best opportunity to hold those seats who gives us the best opportunity at the feet shop and I believe in science I look at the scientific polls a scientific poll showed me that the best person out there run for president now too this feature is Joe Biden congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina talking with us about his endorsement today you heard it there of Joe Biden for the democratic presidential nomination congressman thank you thank you back in twenty twelve some McDonald's employees in New York refused to work one morning they had no idea they were launching an economic revolution they kicked off a city wide wave and then nationwide strikes by low wage workers demanding fifteen dollars an hour and I got pay increases in dozens of states and cities NPR's Alina Selyukh reports on the legacy of this labor movement Kim Thomas is often the first person her patients see on a given day she's a hospice home health care aide waking up around four thirty in the morning to start her rounds sometimes up to a dozen people to wake up Bates dress and feed I'm like alarm clocks in no way okay it is time to give us a call it's not a job for the faint of heart cleaning vomit and blood from her clothes getting to know people who might soon die Thomas still drawn to her profession after caring for her own ailing mother human dignity she says can be simple like clean sheets and a favorite snack I felt like I could give other people an opportunity to care for them the way I care for my mother and I'm trying to get a little emotional but it's just I truly feel like this is what god wants to be she started in North Carolina making seven dollars an hour then eight twenty five stacking as many hours as she could to sleeping in patients homes aids like Thomas are in high demand but they're not paid a lot after years Thomas finally got a raise to ten dollars and fifty cents an hour like wow this is like you know I thought of making bank what but I wasn't that's when she heard about a movement called fight for fifteen thousand dollars an hour soon joining meetings and marches.